I spent quite a bit of time in Whiteriver growing up. The grandmother in the show is my actual late grandmother, Helen G. Crocker. This really brings back all the memories... She would have been 96 this year. She was an awesome and resilient Apache woman.
Helen Crocker was an amazing woman--in her knowledge of traditional Indeh ways and a warm gracious woman. I was privileged to interview her and get to know her
The song at the beginning makes me cry😭😭 i used to live in this reservation and my old 2nd grade Apache class teacher in 2009 would show us this movie all the time, makes me miss the old days
And that isn't a good answer I jus realized what if you were San Carlos Apache but lived in White River or was one of those who jus live on yhe rez bc their spouse is Apache
I'm so glad to hear that it was shown in school. It's a real gem, and it makes me wish we had been shown films about Mikmaw and Ojibwa in Canada. I felt very moved by this story, and it was made really well.
One thing I notice about the way the Apache communicate in the film....all the words spoken are important....no bullshit....no useless talk, trivial BS that dominates the communication of most people today in the so called modern world....
Hello all, I am a Apache, ( White Mountain ). who now lives in the pacific northwest. My Mother is Eunice Cromwell, her Mother Addie DeClay, who are of the Roadrunner clan. my Stepfather Lloyd Kane who "starred" (ke-yay!) was in this video production. I lived in Whiteriver at that time, and was. " rocking Phil Mireau" , volunteer DJ at KNNB 88.1 Apache radio at that time. " don't worry about it" , is so true. I find myself saying that today. well, "tell her I said hello", (ke-yay!!) The Lord Bless You and Your Family Clans a ways............ AMEN.
I really cry when I see this amazing film......I am not Apache but I follow in my every day life, the Native American way of Life, the Great Spirit guides my every move...as I was told to let every breath I breathe, every step I take, to be a prayer...I have been blessed to have seen the Mountain Spirit Dances...I have been doing Sweat Lodge Ceremonies with the Native American people since the 80's....I have witnessed true Miracles too, coming from the Spirits associated with the Ceremonies.......Just about all the Native American friends that I have made in the USA happen to be Apache....so I know there is a "life connection" somewhere, perhaps back in previous lifetime I was one of these BEAUTIFUL People......I don't know, but I DO know our Spirits live forever, and yes, we do come back to reborn, to do it all over again to see if we can get it right......
What a powerful in-depth portrayal of a young boy, becoming a man. A warrior, a great leader . To all the outreach personnel and educators in Indian country, this would be a great short film for our youth. Stay strong and indigenous. - Andrew H. KING (San Carlos Apache Nation)
I loved this movie. My brother John & I are Jicarilla. Our mother Mary was shot 3-times while running from an Abby in Germany. I was raised with 3 bone scars on my head. This from those same assassins bullets that killed our birth mother. I was raised as white & beaten by German step-mother whenever I did not comply to her white ways. My life has never been easy as, I am Bleach White. I live comfortably now in my senior years in Pacific Northwest. I would still like to learn more about Apache ways. This after following those same ways most of my past 72 years of life. I bless all Apache, everywhere!
The White eyes are the living dead they come mostly In white skins and true people come in all colors your suffering will be Blessed many times over and your ancestors will welcome you for your strength and courage when we suffer we receive Big Medicine power an the pain never returns. White Mountain Blessings Forever
Just to think this movie was made in mid 80s.. and life seemed so great then.. and it's been so depressing now.. a pandemic, couldnt have ceremonies or anything for 18 months.. and now were finally back at it.. but with mask on.. I sure do miss precovid life... the world is completely changed now..
Don't let them change your life and change your traditions!!(that is their main goal, to wipe out EVERYTHING that remained from the past! ) Rootless people can be easily destroyed! Take off your masks! And restart your gatherings, your ceremonies, your traditions! You can't let evil stop you! The fate of America is in the native's hands too! Be carefull! And take good care of the US.
I used to teach on the Navajo reservation and often visited the White Mountain reservation. I watched this video once and have been trying to find it again.
I love this movie its all about our way of life of being an Apache native person, terms which we as individuals must learn to keep our tradition alive!
I remember when I was 6 and my teacher showed us this this was my favorite movie and it holds a good story I miss the younger days of growing up in the reservation I still live here today❤🌄
This video is old school and the acting is terrible, but it is still the best thing I have seen in a very long time. I don't even have the words to explain how much I love this video. I could watch it again and again.
Thank you for this information! Nowadays many young men need there spirits awaken again! I love your traditions! In Hungary we consider native americans our brothers! We lived in a similar way in the past! We had similar customs!
I love the country in the White mountains, Since watching some of these films I start remembering people, places, and customs, I will always carry those things that were taught to me from the elders. Some names that come to me are Steve Lupe, Dick Coolly, Mr. Day he was a game warren and worked out of Cibuie, Mr. Gooday he was my dad's foreman working at Oak Creek.
I grew up in Bylas & been living in Kansas many years. I was missing home & so glad to find this. It took me home & I laughed but also enjoyed hearing my language. Awesome music too 😁
I love whiteriver my grandma used to run the Honda cafe' we would stop and see her when we got to go swimming in the river in the summer was my favorite place to be. I learn to catch baby fish with my bare hands in that river. I love the lady's dresses so beautiful. Some memories favorite memories.
This movie is what it is all about, many do not understand. They do not hear or feel, it comes from the heart. Looking beyond what it is trying to show and say. When movies come up repeatedly the Creator is trying to show me what is next. What path to follow I watch and listen to everything that is going on for the Spirits are communicating with me to steer me in the right direction. I will listen.
This is a very good video. It was very well done by all persons involved with its creation. Thumbs Up! I really enjoyed watching every minute of this video.
Its always good to reopen our hearts to who we are born to be when your Apache. Modern times have been difficult a child of the relocated parents grew up but always Remember the first time The Gan came towards me as a child at the City By The Bay. Always my protectors now I live 62 summers at home of my ansestors . Today they protected me once again and my family. From a traveling woman.who.has been sick.with covid for a month . She was turned around and confused then lost in the high desert They let her go home and she is there 50 miles away.
Thank you uncle for showing nephew about this mountain spirit movie nephew is going to dance for Bruce Burnette he gave nephew a name is walking on a long powerful good road uncle
I just know the boys nickname the star of the show speedo and yes he played in the geronimo movie as well with my family being from bylas the boy becomes the #5 dancer
One of the corner stone teachings is to learn the myriad skills of life that allow you to live life and apply them to help your community live life. The film depicts the application of ones life skills and power in an older traditional community, but it can be applied to a modern community for positive development, or selfishly applied to undermine the life of a community. RIP Ronnie Lupe.
Oh snap I saw this movie many many moons ago always wonder what it’s call, Finally found it. The main character with the bandanna sounds like someone talking for him like dubbing over lol. Especially the beginning in the truck it sounds more weird like it’s really dubbed over lol. KEH YEHH Hoooo!!
Raised in the city slums of phoenix, my mother black, apache/mexican, my father irish, they illegally married by a man who is long dead. I am 59 yrs old and still doin't know who I am, I wander state to state lost. I have no lineage to trace, no way to know. I walk lost.
Michelle Hawkins you will find your way... remember your ancestors it is ok to have made mistakes - I am Irish in New Mexico I love the traditions of the Native Americans - the shields, the directions the medicine wheels, the connection with nature spirits. You walk searching, collecting information. like the movie says - there are reasons for everything.
+Will Kiser Friend? I am Little brave Man and I have been dreaming of the Mountain spirit Dancers and hearing the songs I wish to know why the Gann Have chosen me? they keep dancing into my dreams and I keep hearing Songs in my sleep will you please let me know what you think of feel? thank you.
Michelle Hawkins, you have great ancestry that you can learn from. You just have to learn. I too grew up without culture, My cherokee mother and my jewish father did not believe in teaching us anything about our culture. Find someone who will teach you about the language, food and traditions. I found a Cherokee teacher to help me with things, I have learned about my clan received a clan name and a personal name. i live in Canada now, and I drum and learning the native flute. You can learn if you want to, it's up to you
Heyyyy as a little boy one of the dancers came and woke me while we were outside up but my uncles never woke up, I was 5 years old so I covered my face but heard him again. I uncovered my face and the dancer stuck his tongue at me and laughed at me but said shhhhh and tole me to come with him. This was a head dancer so I climbed over my uncles and toddled after him we walked a long way while he sang a song then we say a bright light, he said come see who is here. A lady came from the light and was talking in my head she was very young sort of like me,she said we are going to work together for a long time you will help the people but you may have to hide so you are not be taken by the white people. If you go to thier big villages do not stay long or you will lose yourself. I heard my uncles voices calling me the Kachina and dancer said we will always be with you. The little girl said you will see me and recognise me but will not be able to touch me. My uncles began coming so I turned to look at them when I turned around the girl went into the light and it went to the sky. Ever since I have been moved from place to place but often see the girl smile at me or point or shake her head no when I make a decision.
Despite the relocation propaganda in this prevalent at this time, the people songs and story is such a work of beauty. The ancestors where urging him to stay with people to learn the ways of a healer as a chosen mediator between the spiritual and physical world. They used this sacred sign of initiation into tribal traditions of healings as a sign to leave his people and learn the mainstream American ways bc the Rez had nothing to offer but crime addiction and pain....which isn't true at all. Those things to exist there, but they also exist in the ghettos they moved them too, only there they had none of their own culture readily available to practice and keep alive. I think a lot of people missed the hidden agenda behind this film.... probably the people participating in it were also unaware. I hope one day our shit government is force to atone for their unforgivable sins.
I’m Full Navajo. I’m wondering if it’s really true. I remember my father saying that the Navajos are Apache and somewhere along the way some of the Apaches parted ways and called themselves Navajo. Just watching this movie. I beginning to think that my father is telling the truth. I’m saying this because I noticed some of the words sound similar.
I had an experience in northern New Mexico I want to share with the world..perhaps you can say something to me in reply if you have any ideas...... One summer night, I saw a light coming from the side of a cliff....out in a place where I thought there was nothing but a cliff.....It was the side of a mountain, a cliff face ....it rose up really high..a river ran below in the canyon.....I looked at the light..It was really big...it looked like a light from a big doorway...I could see the big opening, like a doorway, a very big doorway...like it was big house up there on the side of the mountain.....and I thought to myself, " Wow, that must be a heck of driveway to get to that big house up there...I am going up there tomorrow to see what that light is , where it is coming from"...Next day, I went up there...I searched all along the road first to see if I could find a dirt road that ran up the mountain...I figured there MUST be one, but I found none...not even a trail...I climbed up to the top of that cliff face....that big mountain, I looked all around, took me all day...I saw some ravens, and a big turkey vulture flying around..........All I can say , is there was no big giant house up there...no road..not even a hiking trail......nothing but the side of a sheer cliff wall..no cave was visible either.....I had seen the opening in the mountain .....open up wide...and shine a big light from inside there....a light was coming from inside the mountain......and I saw it clear as can be......I camped out there another day......and looked again for it, I was so intrigued by it...by what I had seen up there...I really wanted to find out what it was all about....but....I never saw it again.......
Only you know what you have experienced, find the answer in your intuition because that's your inner guide. Beautiful experience, cherish it. 🇳🇱🌬💞🌏🌎🌍💞🌈🌞
Wow !!! Ppls message read wow I'm proud them keep up don't forget k very important give children s remember history true story keep stay by heart real believe only heart forever !!! Smile all good believe that true story follow heart wink
I think it has more to do with those who could see the propaganda in this. It had many beautiful people and things about it, but it was as though they twisted the spiritual experience of coming of age in their culture to a sign from the mountain spirits to leave the reservation for a "good life". It seemed to put forth the message that the Rez is full of addictions crime and dead ends. At this time the relocation program was still trying to make itself look good although it was all but a complete failure. The dreams the boy had would show he should stay and learn the ancient ways of a healer but instead the value of that is down played and the American culture ans education is glorified. But this was a tactic v government to disperse the indigenous into slums and ghettos, dilute their bloodlines and systematically cut government responsibility to maintain the very few treaties and services they are upholding as promised to the natives. But what happens when they all leave the land, take a payoff and dilute their genetics until no one is "enough" native to be owes anything? Then the government takes over the little land they were still allowed to keep, compensatory programs and funds are no longer obligations under law to the indigenous, and they quietly smoother out their culture and rituals that scare them so much. I see the beauty and the hidden agenda begin the film but I personally chose to focus mostly on the beauty of the stories and the people, but I was conscious of the not so nice intentions behind this from media. But I have faith that their resilience and divine guidance will always overcome the corruption that tries to oppress them. You can never out smart divine wisdom.
Back in September (2019) I got to travel to Munich Germany. I had an amazing time learning about the German culture, language and history. The food was also amazing. I have never heard of Winnetou until I visited Neuschwanstein. The attention I received over the fact that I am an Apache was unexpected. The reaction from the locals over basic Apache words amazed me. Your country is beautiful and I can't wait to return. December 2020
"Winnetou" is a fictional Apache chief, invented by Karl May, a famous german author. He lived from 1842 -1912 and wrote lots of stories about his alter ego Old Shatterhand ( an also fictional west man) and his blood brother Winnetou. They are quite popular in Germany, although there is now a debate about cultural appropriation....@@SenoraMadrid
I spent quite a bit of time in Whiteriver growing up. The grandmother in the show is my actual late grandmother, Helen G. Crocker. This really brings back all the memories... She would have been 96 this year. She was an awesome and resilient Apache woman.
Helen Crocker was an amazing woman--in her knowledge of traditional Indeh ways and a warm gracious woman. I was privileged to interview her and get to know her
You knew George Lee as well? From the reservation?
Helen was an amazing strong Apache woman. She was my traditional godmother.
Trust me white river is camel free now
My grandma plays in Geronimo and that speedo sells tamales here
The song at the beginning makes me cry😭😭 i used to live in this reservation and my old 2nd grade Apache class teacher in 2009 would show us this movie all the time, makes me miss the old days
What tribe you in?
@@sage1682 I used to live in white river
@@Masidonclass01 No wayyy dude lmaoo I was in Camp Verde huckin burgers at a Sonic and the chick I was dating was from the White River rez
And that isn't a good answer I jus realized what if you were San Carlos Apache but lived in White River or was one of those who jus live on yhe rez bc their spouse is Apache
I'm so glad to hear that it was shown in school. It's a real gem, and it makes me wish we had been shown films about Mikmaw and Ojibwa in Canada. I felt very moved by this story, and it was made really well.
One thing I notice about the way the Apache communicate in the film....all the words spoken are important....no bullshit....no useless talk, trivial BS that dominates the communication of most people today in the so called modern world....
Hello all, I am a Apache, ( White Mountain ). who now lives in the pacific northwest. My Mother is Eunice Cromwell, her Mother Addie DeClay, who are of the Roadrunner clan. my Stepfather Lloyd Kane who "starred" (ke-yay!) was in this video production. I lived in Whiteriver at that time, and was. " rocking Phil Mireau" , volunteer DJ at KNNB 88.1 Apache radio at that time. " don't worry about it" , is so true. I find myself saying that today. well, "tell her I said hello", (ke-yay!!) The Lord Bless You and Your Family Clans a ways............ AMEN.
Do you still speak the language? You must teach your children and grandchildren your language.
I really cry when I see this amazing film......I am not Apache but I follow in my every day life, the Native American way of Life, the Great Spirit guides my every move...as I was told to let every breath I breathe, every step I take, to be a prayer...I have been blessed to have seen the Mountain Spirit Dances...I have been doing Sweat Lodge Ceremonies with the Native American people since the 80's....I have witnessed true Miracles too, coming from the Spirits associated with the Ceremonies.......Just about all the Native American friends that I have made in the USA happen to be Apache....so I know there is a "life connection" somewhere, perhaps back in previous lifetime I was one of these BEAUTIFUL People......I don't know, but I DO know our Spirits live forever, and yes, we do come back to reborn, to do it all over again to see if we can get it right......
god bless . I subscribed
that word ""kkeh yaayy" never gets old I hear it alot even my kids say that word
Smiley Sky. that's cool. I remember people around these parts having a good time saying that.
Smiley Sky we grew up saying SHAAAAYYYYY! Like we were on a rollercoaster...🎢 or NEOOOW!
Who Art Thou???????
Kyay for reals ....
You know that our thing as apache people I'd be some were and see something funny I would think of that word.
This never gets old!!
I'm a Apache and this is so true
the Mountain spirit are embracing the change of your
life and changing you
It was nice to hear that good ole' sawmill whistle 😢 work there,❤
What a powerful in-depth portrayal of a young boy, becoming a man. A warrior, a great leader . To all the outreach personnel and
educators in Indian country, this would be a great short film for our youth. Stay strong and indigenous. - Andrew H. KING (San Carlos Apache Nation)
I loved this movie. My brother John & I are Jicarilla. Our mother Mary was shot 3-times while running from an Abby in Germany. I was raised with 3 bone scars on my head. This from those same assassins bullets that killed our birth mother. I was raised as white & beaten by German step-mother whenever I did not comply to her white ways. My life has never been easy as, I am Bleach White. I live comfortably now in my senior years in Pacific Northwest. I would still like to learn more about Apache ways. This after following those same ways most of my past 72 years of life. I bless all Apache, everywhere!
the NW Coast is a LONG ways from Apache country, why not go back there? The Mountain Spirits live there ...
The White eyes are the living dead they come mostly In white skins and true people come in all colors your suffering will be Blessed many times over and your ancestors will welcome you for your strength and courage when we suffer we receive Big Medicine power an the pain never returns. White Mountain Blessings Forever
@Jerry Bli...
I'm a native German over 70 and still living over there.
I'm interested in your Story, how could we getting in touch?
I live in Arizona in whiteriver and this is a good movie
Same but I live in san Carlos also I'm live in the kenton family harold kenton is my grandpa
Just to think this movie was made in mid 80s.. and life seemed so great then.. and it's been so depressing now.. a pandemic, couldnt have ceremonies or anything for 18 months.. and now were finally back at it.. but with mask on.. I sure do miss precovid life... the world is completely changed now..
Don't let them change your life and change your traditions!!(that is their main goal, to wipe out EVERYTHING that remained from the past! )
Rootless people can be easily destroyed!
Take off your masks!
And restart your gatherings, your ceremonies, your traditions! You can't let evil stop you!
The fate of America is in the native's hands too! Be carefull! And take good care of the US.
I used to teach on the Navajo reservation and often visited the White Mountain reservation. I watched this video once and have been trying to find it again.
I miss my dad Michael Anthony Minjarez R.I.P
I love this movie its all about our way of life of being an Apache native person, terms which we as individuals must learn to keep our tradition alive!
Netflix needs this
40:50, the flute song has meaning behind it, it's a real song, and good to hear it even in this video
What it called i like it
What’s the song called.
Anyone
th-cam.com/video/E_bo5wq-U6k/w-d-xo.html
I remember when I was 6 and my teacher showed us this this was my favorite movie and it holds a good story I miss the younger days of growing up in the reservation I still live here today❤🌄
Very good! You should carry on your traditions and language!
I didn't even feel like I was watching a movie. I was just there. Totally inspiring, mystical, and profound, and yet understated.
BADASS MOVIE !!! NEVER GETS OLD.....
+Elmo Altaha Jr. That's Right Bro!!!
D.S Star
That was so 80's loved every minute
This video is old school and the acting is terrible, but it is still the best thing I have seen in a very long time. I don't even have the words to explain how much I love this video. I could watch it again and again.
Martin Wehausen (Nadots' oosin).. a very good movie, I will always watch it...the awakening of a young man's spirit....for you who are not Apache....
Thank you for this information! Nowadays many young men need there spirits awaken again!
I love your traditions! In Hungary we consider native americans our brothers! We lived in a similar way in the past! We had similar customs!
Missing my Whiteriver Family. Speedo is my uncle. He still dances to this day ❤️
Kaaay yaaay 😂
So true "WHEN YOU AIM AT NOTHING YOU HIT IT ALL THE TIME" 👍👍
I like that crown dance song it's sounds good learn it from all the old medicine men back then good video really like it my favorite video
I love the country in the White mountains, Since watching some of these films I start remembering people, places, and customs, I will always carry those things that were taught to me from the elders. Some names that come to me are Steve Lupe, Dick Coolly, Mr. Day he was a game warren and worked out of Cibuie, Mr. Gooday he was my dad's foreman working at Oak Creek.
I remember watching this video with my uncle and teachers and my ma used to watch it with my great grandma and grandpa .
I grew up in Bylas & been living in Kansas many years. I was missing home & so glad to find this. It took me home & I laughed but also enjoyed hearing my language. Awesome music too 😁
You should teach your language to your children! You have a great heritage, that is a spiritual heritage!
thank you so much for sharing greetings and love from Germany
Love you too. From Arawak in NY. Don't let them hide behind Trump and conquer more.
I used to watch this when I was a kid and now I matured more and know things it hit hard watching it now😶😶
I watch this movie! I am honored to have seen this and know my grandson is an Ethelbah
+Maya Marsh That is my maternal grandfathers last name.
That's so cool .
I saw the apache dancers twice at the big Pow wow in Mesa every October. Only now do I begin to understand what it was all about.
I love whiteriver my grandma used to run the Honda cafe' we would stop and see her when we got to go swimming in the river in the summer was my favorite place to be. I learn to catch baby fish with my bare hands in that river. I love the lady's dresses so beautiful. Some memories favorite memories.
That chevy tho ❤😎 i remember watching this in higher skool and medium School and early School.
This movie is what it is all about, many do not understand. They do not hear or feel, it comes from the heart. Looking beyond what it is trying to show and say. When movies come up repeatedly the Creator is trying to show me what is next. What path to follow I watch and listen to everything that is going on for the Spirits are communicating with me to steer me in the right direction. I will listen.
this movie took me to that place it became real. the boys performance was outstanding
This film was made in my homeland😊😊😊
this was a good movie ... loved it ...
Beautiful , profound . The Sun does bring forth messages
Amazing video. Glad it was shared.
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This is a very good video. It was very well done by all persons involved with its creation. Thumbs Up! I really enjoyed watching every minute of this video.
I will always miss u Papa Mike and Midnight😢😢
I love this movie I watch every single day! 😉👌😍
That's so nice to know.
these stories are hardly told now a days but still is in our history as he said they well in the wood.
@Steve Hunt im a dancer myself and i truly believe they are in the mountains
Its always good to reopen our hearts to who we are born to be when your Apache.
Modern times have been difficult a child of the relocated parents grew up but always Remember the first time The Gan came towards me as a child at the City By The Bay.
Always my protectors now I live 62 summers at home of my ansestors .
Today they protected me once again and my family.
From a traveling woman.who.has been sick.with covid for a month .
She was turned around and confused then lost in the high desert
They let her go home and she is there 50 miles away.
Sending love to my Apache People from Fort Bidwell Indian Reservation...
I remember i first watch this when i was a young boy i go to school at 7 mile bobcat i love it
Awesome movie. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Very good movie. I like the native people wish I could meet some and spend time with them.
I also made this movie, I was one of the dancers 😢
This movie made me and my friends rip the strings from our socks and take popsicle sticks to make the woo woo stick
7-Mile school days
Lol what I did
Oh my god me too!
I miss watching this video
My favorite Movie I know everyone in this movie odivisly I'm related 2 some of them
Thank you uncle for showing nephew about this mountain spirit movie nephew is going to dance for Bruce Burnette he gave nephew a name is walking on a long powerful good road uncle
awesome movie!
And I am Apache from Arizona the same tribe where the movie is made and recorded
Tanjo, well done. Many blessings
Beautiful stories of the Old Ways to come again Apache Dan StandingKnife (San Carlos)
This is so true.
Back insda day ha!! been a minute since ive seen this...
wonderful
the baby on there was me
excellent, very moving.
Do you get residuals? Probably never even got credit. Love the story. Best wishes.
What a cute baby
awesome
blessingss
I just know the boys nickname the star of the show speedo and yes he played in the geronimo movie as well with my family being from bylas the boy becomes the #5 dancer
Speedo I LOVED thee! Say Hi too Janice Nisse Stover , for MAA MRHY
The guy in the bus at the beginning was at my sisters sunrise dance 2 years ago
Miss you 4 ever papa mike
Às vezes me pergunto de onde vem essa paixão que tenho por eles, quando criança adorava vestirme de índio. Simplesmente sou encantada.
Vida anterior!
My grandma was in this movie but she passed away 2018
my grandma was in this movie to
Butifule to see Apache peopel.Make new version how they leave today.Long live Apache .Love from Apache land.
Nowadays i always see speedo drunk😂
One of the corner stone teachings is to learn the myriad skills of life that allow you to live life and apply them to help your community live life. The film depicts the application of ones life skills and power in an older traditional community, but it can be applied to a modern community for positive development, or selfishly applied to undermine the life of a community. RIP Ronnie Lupe.
That guy in the beginning is my grandpa no lie liget but he died last year his name was midnight he play for a band know as apache spirits
Oh snap I saw this movie many many moons ago always wonder what it’s call, Finally found it.
The main character with the bandanna sounds like someone talking for him like dubbing over lol. Especially the beginning in the truck it sounds more weird like it’s really dubbed over lol. KEH YEHH Hoooo!!
Thank you
Hay I live at white mountain so this story was a long time ago 🙂
Raised in the city slums of phoenix, my mother black, apache/mexican, my father irish, they illegally married by a man who is long dead. I am 59 yrs old and still doin't know who I am, I wander state to state lost. I have no lineage to trace, no way to know. I walk lost.
Michelle Hawkins you will find your way... remember your ancestors it is ok to have made mistakes - I am Irish in New Mexico I love the traditions of the Native Americans - the shields, the directions the medicine wheels, the connection with nature spirits. You walk searching, collecting information. like the movie says - there are reasons for everything.
nah
+Luis Salguero I am also apache. Cochise is my great great grandfather. l am proud to be a chiricaua.
+Will Kiser Friend? I am Little brave Man and I have been dreaming of the Mountain spirit Dancers and hearing the songs I wish to know why the Gann Have chosen me? they keep dancing into my dreams and I keep hearing Songs in my sleep will you please let me know what you think of feel? thank you.
Michelle Hawkins, you have great ancestry that you can learn from. You just have to learn. I too grew up without culture, My cherokee mother and my jewish father did not believe in teaching us anything about our culture. Find someone who will teach you about the language, food and traditions.
I found a Cherokee teacher to help me with things, I have learned about my clan received a clan name and a personal name. i live in Canada now, and I drum and learning the native flute.
You can learn if you want to, it's up to you
Fabulous
What a powerful story
Heyyyy as a little boy one of the dancers came and woke me while we were outside up but my uncles never woke up, I was 5 years old so I covered my face but heard him again. I uncovered my face and the dancer stuck his tongue at me and laughed at me but said shhhhh and tole me to come with him. This was a head dancer so I climbed over my uncles and toddled after him we walked a long way while he sang a song then we say a bright light, he said come see who is here. A lady came from the light and was talking in my head she was very young sort of like me,she said we are going to work together for a long time you will help the people but you may have to hide so you are not be taken by the white people. If you go to thier big villages do not stay long or you will lose yourself. I heard my uncles voices calling me the Kachina and dancer said we will always be with you. The little girl said you will see me and recognise me but will not be able to touch me. My uncles began coming so I turned to look at them when I turned around the girl went into the light and it went to the sky. Ever since I have been moved from place to place but often see the girl smile at me or point or shake her head no when I make a decision.
I am proud 🥲 be Apache
I'm Apache from Oklahoma
Same.
Despite the relocation propaganda in this prevalent at this time, the people songs and story is such a work of beauty. The ancestors where urging him to stay with people to learn the ways of a healer as a chosen mediator between the spiritual and physical world. They used this sacred sign of initiation into tribal traditions of healings as a sign to leave his people and learn the mainstream American ways bc the Rez had nothing to offer but crime addiction and pain....which isn't true at all. Those things to exist there, but they also exist in the ghettos they moved them too, only there they had none of their own culture readily available to practice and keep alive. I think a lot of people missed the hidden agenda behind this film.... probably the people participating in it were also unaware. I hope one day our shit government is force to atone for their unforgivable sins.
I enjoyed this. From the people themselves and not some overhyped expensive liberal Hollywood insult.
Ever notice apache and navajo sound so similar. Understood him taking about the deer.
Yeah because Navajo is athabaskan and Apache Is Too Apache And Navajos Are Cousins
I’m Full Navajo. I’m wondering if it’s really true. I remember my father saying that the Navajos are Apache and somewhere along the way some of the Apaches parted ways and called themselves Navajo. Just watching this movie. I beginning to think that my father is telling the truth. I’m saying this because I noticed some of the words sound similar.
@@hildayellow1475 *Diné
Yep remember we were once one with the Dene up north too who speak similar dialect. I live in Showlow have Apache relatives but I am Dine'
Hell yeah I just got my son his hunter certificate so he can join his dad this year
I’m proud of you Indians! You are my pick of all people! Thanks! I l❤️ve you!
From 🏈Alabama 🏈 where Legends are Made! We l♥️ve the Indians! Thanks! ✝️⭐️👨✝️⭐️♥️✝️⭐️♥️⭐️✝️
I use to get alot of visions of my past life
Very good movie. I hope the young generation c movie to continue the traditional not just the tribe ALL tribe's..
And to know right from wrong . I hope all younger generation make right path n life. Bless all natibe American Indians...
I had an experience in northern New Mexico I want to share with the world..perhaps you can say something to me in reply if you have any ideas...... One summer night, I saw a light coming from the side of a cliff....out in a place where I thought there was nothing but a cliff.....It was the side of a mountain, a cliff face ....it rose up really high..a river ran below in the canyon.....I looked at the light..It was really big...it looked like a light from a big doorway...I could see the big opening, like a doorway, a very big doorway...like it was big house up there on the side of the mountain.....and I thought to myself, " Wow, that must be a heck of driveway to get to that big house up there...I am going up there tomorrow to see what that light is , where it is coming from"...Next day, I went up there...I searched all along the road first to see if I could find a dirt road that ran up the mountain...I figured there MUST be one, but I found none...not even a trail...I climbed up to the top of that cliff face....that big mountain, I looked all around, took me all day...I saw some ravens, and a big turkey vulture flying around..........All I can say , is there was no big giant house up there...no road..not even a hiking trail......nothing but the side of a sheer cliff wall..no cave was visible either.....I had seen the opening in the mountain .....open up wide...and shine a big light from inside there....a light was coming from inside the mountain......and I saw it clear as can be......I camped out there another day......and looked again for it, I was so intrigued by it...by what I had seen up there...I really wanted to find out what it was all about....but....I never saw it again.......
Only you know what you have experienced, find the answer in your intuition because that's your inner guide. Beautiful experience, cherish it.
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A portal maybe? A portal to other dimensions! Ravens are good sign! But don't search for MATERIAL answers, because your experience was spiritual!
I wish there was a better quality version
AAU', IHÉHE ASÉ. WE NOT HUMAN, WE ARE COSMIC BEINGS/DEITIES. THE ORIGINAL BEINGS UPON TURTLE ISLAND ASÉ
San Carlos Apache here
38:56 who sings that song
Wow !!! Ppls message read wow I'm proud them keep up don't forget k very important give children s remember history true story keep stay by heart real believe only heart forever !!! Smile all good believe that true story follow heart wink
So. Real.
My question. Why 9 negative reviews ?
you can't please everybody, I guess.
Because there is no good without bad
I think it has more to do with those who could see the propaganda in this. It had many beautiful people and things about it, but it was as though they twisted the spiritual experience of coming of age in their culture to a sign from the mountain spirits to leave the reservation for a "good life". It seemed to put forth the message that the Rez is full of addictions crime and dead ends. At this time the relocation program was still trying to make itself look good although it was all but a complete failure. The dreams the boy had would show he should stay and learn the ancient ways of a healer but instead the value of that is down played and the American culture ans education is glorified. But this was a tactic v government to disperse the indigenous into slums and ghettos, dilute their bloodlines and systematically cut government responsibility to maintain the very few treaties and services they are upholding as promised to the natives. But what happens when they all leave the land, take a payoff and dilute their genetics until no one is "enough" native to be owes anything? Then the government takes over the little land they were still allowed to keep, compensatory programs and funds are no longer obligations under law to the indigenous, and they quietly smoother out their culture and rituals that scare them so much. I see the beauty and the hidden agenda begin the film but I personally chose to focus mostly on the beauty of the stories and the people, but I was conscious of the not so nice intentions behind this from media. But I have faith that their resilience and divine guidance will always overcome the corruption that tries to oppress them. You can never out smart divine wisdom.
Wow that was a Very good comment, i didn't realise it myself
So different from the "Winnetou"-stories we live with in Germany...
Back in September (2019) I got to travel to Munich Germany. I had an amazing time learning about the German culture, language and history. The food was also amazing. I have never heard of Winnetou until I visited Neuschwanstein. The attention I received over the fact that I am an Apache was unexpected. The reaction from the locals over basic Apache words amazed me. Your country is beautiful and I can't wait to return. December 2020
Winnetka sounds like a Cree word nor german
"Winnetou" is a fictional Apache chief, invented by Karl May, a famous german author. He lived from 1842 -1912 and wrote lots of stories about his alter ego Old Shatterhand ( an also fictional west man) and his blood brother Winnetou. They are quite popular in Germany, although there is now a debate about cultural appropriation....@@SenoraMadrid
Apache mountain spirits it alright film think came 80s