Appreciate that mate, I thought others would be in the same boat too, plus I was interested to see how the systems performed myself, very impressive! Clever car! 😉👌
That was interesting to see all the modes mate, well explained. I just leave my m3 in mdm all the time, just lets it play that bit but keeps it in safe limits, esp for the road/daily driving. This though looks like another level in terms of intelligence. How you see it trying to figure out where the grip/traction is to save you. Thats properly cleverly. Great video, need to get me one of those GW skid days!
Thanks mate, yeah super clever stuff for sure. Yeah MDM for me, I always push a bit harder if I know there's something helping me in the background, especially if it's not my car!
This is a fantastic ‘how to’ video. I tried it in my G83 M4 Competition Convertible M X drive and it absolutely works. Traction control 5 works well for me.
Ah thank you. It's such a great system isn't it. Very clever. And this car in convertible form ticks a lot of boxes for me! 😎 Please Subscribe and tell your friends! 👊😉
@@RickTheSpud will do. I love mine. Dravit Grey (which has a fantastic sparkle in the sun, gold and purple shining behind the grey) and Yas Marina Blue leather with yellow highlights.
Ive owmed audi,mercedes, bmw and this is the best car ive ever owned. Just need a grille change and intakes with a exhaust and its seriously a beast and the SOUND and WHOOSH is so addicting. Even my lil bro who has an eV gushes over it.
Nice one. Good to see how the car behaves in different modes. Everything off, obviously! But a bit of back up is no bad thing, looks like they've nailed that 👍🏻
Ah brilliant, thank you. So glad. It's really the only place you can see all the systems working properly. I was super impressed, they're such epic bit of kit. 👊😎
@@RickTheSpud This is definitely the fastest vehicle I've owned and it's good to see how the car responds under different settings in a rainy or wet situation, again thank you! I'm in love with this car
Yeah same, was super fun to test all the settings with more obvious results in a controlled environment. Check out my other M3 vids, and feel free to share them around! 👊😉
Thank you, great job ! Been trying to understand the different drive control systems on my new M4 Comp. (just for normal driving) - this really clarified. Not surprised BMW were interested as they need to do a better job on helping customers better understand the different effects. As positive feedback would have loved to see synced videos of you steering and outside shots to see the effect as well as your great explanations. Also, maybe a summary table of different settings vs handling characteristics. Maybe BMW could use your video to help them do this ? Again, great job.
Thanks buddy, it's a great system on the BMWs in my opinion. Very clever. It adjusts the traction AND stability control, not just the traction control like some other cars. Thanks for the feedback. What other camera angle would have added more information? The over the shoulder camera captured the movement outside the car plus my wheel position which shows what I was doing and where the wheels were pointing. Not sure what else would have added to that?
Great video Rick. I found this really interesting, you also did an amazing job of explaining what all the modes are because i find that all confusing sometimes but yeah the video was great and very interesting.
Not true. And not as simple as that. It's always 4wd unless you tell it to be rwd. It constantly moves the power between the wheels but never all to the back in 4wd mode.
@@RickTheSpud Come on now. Don’t be spreading miss information. This is straight from the BMW M website. “The M xDrive can dial in fully variable torque split between front axle and rear axle. It is possible to manually switch of the front axle --> 2WD mode. Based on the given driving conditions, e.g. constant highway cruising, the system will also automatically decouple the front axle in 4WD and 4WD Sport mode to operate more efficiently.” “What is the reaction time of the system engaging/disengaging the AWD? Normally, just the torque transfer to the front axle is varied, its variation takes less than 150ms. Returning from efficiency mode shift time is less than 400ms.” “So even in 4WD, the torque is sent to the front only when needed? Or there is always some torque going? The front axle torque split can go as low as 0% even in 4WD or 4WD Sport mode depending on the actual driving situation - think of steady highway cruising as an example.” www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/magazine-article-pool/bmw-m3-m4-m-xdrive.html
@@RickTheSpud Come on now. Don’t spread misinformation. “The M xDrive can dial in fully variable torque split between front axle and rear axle. It is possible to manually switch of the front axle --> 2WD mode. Based on the given driving conditions, e.g. constant highway cruising, the system will also automatically decouple the front axle in 4WD and 4WD Sport mode to operate more efficiently.” “What is the reaction time of the system engaging/disengaging the AWD? Normally, just the torque transfer to the front axle is varied, its variation takes less than 150ms. Returning from efficiency mode shift time is less than 400ms.” “So even in 4WD, the torque is sent to the front only when needed? Or there is always some torque going? The front axle torque split can go as low as 0% even in 4WD or 4WD Sport mode depending on the actual driving situation - think of steady highway cruising as an example.” All straight quotes from the BMW M website.
Due domande: 1-MDM non serve a niente o rallenta le reazioni della macchina? (La derapata è più lenta rispetto a tutto spento?) 2-traction control a 10 permette di sbandare ma in modo molto lento e recuperabile?
MDM is very clever. It doesn't slow down the cars reactions but let's the car rotate more while still keeping it under some control. It's doesn't try and completely straighten the car. Traction control at 10 is in RWD mode only and is the equivalent of TC ON. 5 is like MDM. And 0 is OFF. Hope that helps... 👊
I don't think so, they've always talked about it. You can do a drift experience in the BMWs, or I think you can use your own car on the Thruxton skid pan...
@@RickTheSpud do you know a good place where I can use my own G83 M4? I want to try what you demonstrated. I’ve had a little go on the road but that’s obviously not advisable!
@@reversoworld5348 Haha. No not really, and it's easier to practice with less grip at a slower speed. I think Thruxton is the only place I know that let you use your own car. We've been trying to get Goodwood to use your own car on certain days and it's always talked about but not yet! 😉
Prob not, MDM in a BMW M car, or a similar system is called Traction Mode in normal BMWs, is a halfway mode with the Traction Control whereby it will allow you to have more slip and slide, but if it all goes horribly wrong it is still there trying to save you, unless you've completely messed it up! 😉
No it wouldn't though would it? The camera is only on me soley when there's nothing going on outside, and then it's picture in picture with the main picture being a shot over my shoulder so you can see my inputs to the car as it's moving around relative to what you can see happening outside. If I listened to you and it was on the dash, it would be the bonnet and the skid pan, and you'd have no idea of what I was having to do or not do to control the slide!
@@RickTheSpud Sorry I mean camera facing the dash as in the gauges, so replacing the small picture in picture. In this case you have a camera sitting far enough back we can see the wheel and steering inputs
I just traded my M3 Competition RWD for an XDrive and I found this video UNBELIEVABLY helpful. Thank you!
Appreciate that mate, I thought others would be in the same boat too, plus I was interested to see how the systems performed myself, very impressive! Clever car! 😉👌
Me too it’s completely different car with x drive
Yeah agreed. 4wd sport in MDM means skids and grips at the same time! Just awesome.
That was interesting to see all the modes mate, well explained. I just leave my m3 in mdm all the time, just lets it play that bit but keeps it in safe limits, esp for the road/daily driving. This though looks like another level in terms of intelligence. How you see it trying to figure out where the grip/traction is to save you. Thats properly cleverly. Great video, need to get me one of those GW skid days!
Thanks mate, yeah super clever stuff for sure.
Yeah MDM for me, I always push a bit harder if I know there's something helping me in the background, especially if it's not my car!
How have I only just found this?
Great video and well explained. Thanks 👍
No worries, glad that helped!
Please Subscribe and tell your friends! 😉👌
This is a fantastic ‘how to’ video. I tried it in my G83 M4 Competition Convertible M X drive and it absolutely works. Traction control 5 works well for me.
Ah thank you. It's such a great system isn't it. Very clever. And this car in convertible form ticks a lot of boxes for me! 😎
Please Subscribe and tell your friends! 👊😉
@@RickTheSpud will do. I love mine. Dravit Grey (which has a fantastic sparkle in the sun, gold and purple shining behind the grey) and Yas Marina Blue leather with yellow highlights.
@@reversoworld5348 Ah lovely spec. And thank you. Enjoy! 👊
@@RickTheSpud it’s a pity you can’t attach photos on here. It’s a real head turner.
@@reversoworld5348 Get me on IG...
Ive owmed audi,mercedes, bmw and this is the best car ive ever owned. Just need a grille change and intakes with a exhaust and its seriously a beast and the SOUND and WHOOSH is so addicting. Even my lil bro who has an eV gushes over it.
Yeah agreed! They are absolutely epic! Top 5 cars I've ever driven!
Although saying your EV owning bro gushes over it is not high praise! 😜
Really enjoyed this Rick, loving your work!
Hey thanks Ian, appreciate that!
Must come up and do that stable tour! 😎👌
Nice one. Good to see how the car behaves in different modes. Everything off, obviously! But a bit of back up is no bad thing, looks like they've nailed that 👍🏻
Yes mate, very clever isn't it. I was suitably impressed. Going back to 4WD was the biggest jump, so much grip! 😉👌
From a brand new g80 owner, this helps a ton! Thank you, subscribed!
Ah brilliant, thank you. So glad. It's really the only place you can see all the systems working properly. I was super impressed, they're such epic bit of kit. 👊😎
@@RickTheSpud This is definitely the fastest vehicle I've owned and it's good to see how the car responds under different settings in a rainy or wet situation, again thank you! I'm in love with this car
Yeah same, was super fun to test all the settings with more obvious results in a controlled environment.
Check out my other M3 vids, and feel free to share them around! 👊😉
@@RickTheSpud for sure !!
Thank you great video, love it when it turned from experiments to just fun and glad we could learn with you
Thanks a lot! 👊 Fun while learning is a win win! 😉
Thank you, great job ! Been trying to understand the different drive control systems on my new M4 Comp. (just for normal driving) - this really clarified. Not surprised BMW were interested as they need to do a better job on helping customers better understand the different effects. As positive feedback would have loved to see synced videos of you steering and outside shots to see the effect as well as your great explanations. Also, maybe a summary table of different settings vs handling characteristics. Maybe BMW could use your video to help them do this ? Again, great job.
Thanks buddy, it's a great system on the BMWs in my opinion. Very clever. It adjusts the traction AND stability control, not just the traction control like some other cars.
Thanks for the feedback. What other camera angle would have added more information? The over the shoulder camera captured the movement outside the car plus my wheel position which shows what I was doing and where the wheels were pointing. Not sure what else would have added to that?
Great vid Bud 👍
Thanks bro, I hope you found it half as interesting as I did? 😉👌
I’ve learnt more from you that’s my bmw dealer! Thanks! 🙏
Haha. Thanks buddy!
I hope you're subscribed? 😉
Great video Rick. I found this really interesting, you also did an amazing job of explaining what all the modes are because i find that all confusing sometimes but yeah the video was great and very interesting.
Ah ace, thanks Simmo! Glad you enjoyed it and understood it all!
I'm mainly explaining it to myself as I'm a bit simple! 😜
@@RickTheSpud Haha yeah 🤪
This is amazing.. thank you. I needed this to figure out this monster of mine!
Again... literally the best video out there!
Yeah she's a weapon ay? And the systems are so clever, best out there I'd say.
@@gencimeraj2115 You're subscribed aren't you? 😉
really appreciate this video - much appreciated, Rick!
Thank you for saying mate.
I hope you're subscribed? 😉👌
@@RickTheSpud yep, definitely a subscriber
@@michaelbetanzos6172 👊😎
Man after seeing this, I'm definitely going to buy this Xdrive m4 and sell my e92 m3! amazing vlog bro you deserve more views!!!
Oh wow! Thanks buddy!
Check out my other M3 vids too. It's honestly a mega bit of kit. I love them. 👊
Enjoyed that Rick 👍
Thanks mate, clever car innit?
Great video Rick!!
Thanks mate, interesting and impressive ay?
Definitely driving mine in 2WD and traction 10 for my efficient drive mode
Maybe Traction 5... 😉
There is no point in doing that the car is automatically 2wd if it sense that it doesn’t need to send power to the front
Not true. And not as simple as that. It's always 4wd unless you tell it to be rwd. It constantly moves the power between the wheels but never all to the back in 4wd mode.
@@RickTheSpud Come on now. Don’t be spreading miss information.
This is straight from the BMW M website.
“The M xDrive can dial in fully variable torque split between front axle and rear axle. It is possible to manually switch of the front axle --> 2WD mode. Based on the given driving conditions, e.g. constant highway cruising, the system will also automatically decouple the front axle in 4WD and 4WD Sport mode to operate more efficiently.”
“What is the reaction time of the system engaging/disengaging the AWD?
Normally, just the torque transfer to the front axle is varied, its variation takes less than 150ms. Returning from efficiency mode shift time is less than 400ms.”
“So even in 4WD, the torque is sent to the front only when needed? Or there is always some torque going?
The front axle torque split can go as low as 0% even in 4WD or 4WD Sport mode depending on the actual driving situation - think of steady highway cruising as an example.”
www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/magazine-article-pool/bmw-m3-m4-m-xdrive.html
@@RickTheSpud Come on now. Don’t spread misinformation.
“The M xDrive can dial in fully variable torque split between front axle and rear axle. It is possible to manually switch of the front axle --> 2WD mode. Based on the given driving conditions, e.g. constant highway cruising, the system will also automatically decouple the front axle in 4WD and 4WD Sport mode to operate more efficiently.”
“What is the reaction time of the system engaging/disengaging the AWD?
Normally, just the torque transfer to the front axle is varied, its variation takes less than 150ms. Returning from efficiency mode shift time is less than 400ms.”
“So even in 4WD, the torque is sent to the front only when needed? Or there is always some torque going?
The front axle torque split can go as low as 0% even in 4WD or 4WD Sport mode depending on the actual driving situation - think of steady highway cruising as an example.”
All straight quotes from the BMW M website.
Love watching your videos!
Just wondering out of curiosity, who did you borrow the car from?
Thank you buddy!
BMW UK press dept were VERY generous in lending me one of their best toys! 🤗❤️
Thank you :)
You’ve got to make a track comparison video on a road course between RWD and X-Drive!
That would be awesome, a lot of effort but awesome! 😉
Due domande:
1-MDM non serve a niente o rallenta le reazioni della macchina? (La derapata è più lenta rispetto a tutto spento?)
2-traction control a 10 permette di sbandare ma in modo molto lento e recuperabile?
MDM is very clever. It doesn't slow down the cars reactions but let's the car rotate more while still keeping it under some control. It's doesn't try and completely straighten the car.
Traction control at 10 is in RWD mode only and is the equivalent of TC ON. 5 is like MDM. And 0 is OFF.
Hope that helps... 👊
Great vid. Be good to compare the AMG GTR Pro traction control with the BMW system
Thanks mate. Bring it down, I'm sure it could be arranged! 😜
@@RickTheSpud Sounds like a plan will send you a PM
Can you go 2WD (RWD) on all M3 xdrives? Or do you have to have M-driver package or any other option to be able to switch to RWD?
As far as I'm aware you can do it on all of them. Don't see why you wouldn't. 🤔
Hello! Do you know, can one book the skidpan for individual practice?
I don't think so, they've always talked about it. You can do a drift experience in the BMWs, or I think you can use your own car on the Thruxton skid pan...
That means that on 2021 m3 xdrive I can turn on rwd mode and drift?
Yep! This is a 2021 car! Skid away my friend! 👊😎
Yep! This is a 2021 car! Skid away my friend! 👊😎
Where is that skid pan? Is it open to the public ?
It is but for driving experiences with Goodwood in their cars, not with your own car. 👊
@@RickTheSpud do you know a good place where I can use my own G83 M4? I want to try what you demonstrated. I’ve had a little go on the road but that’s obviously not advisable!
@@reversoworld5348 Haha. No not really, and it's easier to practice with less grip at a slower speed. I think Thruxton is the only place I know that let you use your own car. We've been trying to get Goodwood to use your own car on certain days and it's always talked about but not yet! 😉
Can you switch from xdrive to rwd anytime?
Yep. I even had it saved on the M2 button on the steering wheel so I didn't have to go into the menus. 😎
@@RickTheSpud Amazing! Keep up the great content mate👍🏼
@@thabisomatsena6195 Thank you mate! 👊😉
is it comfortable for rear passengers?
On the skid pan, or the M3 in general?
Skid pan?, not the best, bit of motion sickness, M3 in general?, very much so. 🤗
@@RickTheSpud in general for my parents in long drive. Anyway waiting for its launch in India. Thank you
@@raktimdas8705 Yeah just a normal 3 series in the back, bit more room if you get the carbon buckets as they're thinner! 👊
Did you say what MDM is?
Prob not, MDM in a BMW M car, or a similar system is called Traction Mode in normal BMWs, is a halfway mode with the Traction Control whereby it will allow you to have more slip and slide, but if it all goes horribly wrong it is still there trying to save you, unless you've completely messed it up! 😉
M Dynamic Mode. Helps you look better than you are and should help you to not crash!
@@r1fish That! 🤓👌
@@eddy7606 How's that then? It's the equivalent as you can't have MDM in 2WD and you can't have TC5 in 4WD.
can i turn my m3 g80 x drive to rwd?
Yep, watch the video, all explained in there. 👊
Prob for this demo a camera on the dash instead of you is more useful
No it wouldn't though would it? The camera is only on me soley when there's nothing going on outside, and then it's picture in picture with the main picture being a shot over my shoulder so you can see my inputs to the car as it's moving around relative to what you can see happening outside. If I listened to you and it was on the dash, it would be the bonnet and the skid pan, and you'd have no idea of what I was having to do or not do to control the slide!
@@RickTheSpud Sorry I mean camera facing the dash as in the gauges, so replacing the small picture in picture. In this case you have a camera sitting far enough back we can see the wheel and steering inputs
Nothing happens on the gauges that has any relevance to wants going on. The traction lights flash in various modes but that's it. 🤷♂️
What the heck are you doing bro
Skids innit....