I am no expert but I'd try to not start with full gas on snow. Once tires start slipping they actually grip much less than when not slipping, that applies to any surface. That's why starting in 2nd gear is recommended in snowy conditions to lessen torque and decerease likelihood of tires starting to slip
On my F30 xDrive the traction mode also chances the launching in the snow completely. So I feel like it's not exactly a comprehensive comparison, it's not only the number of wheels that's important. I do love those 4wd donuts though - I remember how ecstatic I was when I learned the car can practically lock itself in the perpetual rotation around its own center axis! Awesome feeling!
Cool test! The incremental gain is way bigger than what other journalists lead us to believe! I’ll not be pulling the trigger on that i4 e40 and keep my 440 x drive. Thanks!
2wd is good enough 9 out of 10 times and it more fun to drift imo. 4wd is only for the practical needs. I have driven only rwd for 18 years now here in norway with zero problems. its more about the driver than anything. a little momentum and u get up almost anywhere you need.
100% agree. I am now with my rwd M140i in Lapland in Finland and I am really surprised how capable it is. I haven’t been stuck once and there is a lot of snow here. I run Hankook Icept 3 winter tyres and have a LSD.
The fact that that car with rwd on snow is 5 seconds faster from 0 to 60 than my car is on a dry road really made me realize that I have to buy a new car
How do you like those Alpin 5? I can't decide between Michelin X-Ice Snow and Michelin Alpin 5 for my 2024 X3M. I downsized from 21 OEM wheels and bought a set of OEM X5 wheels 20x9 to fit my winter tires.
Great comparison video. So many people say RWD is perfectly good in snow with winter tires... and it "can be" depending on the circumstances, but this really shows how superior AWD is overall. And once you mod the G8X platform, the first two gears become worthless unless it's 100 degrees out with sticky tires and you roll into the throttle.
I have an M550i with X-Drive and have never got stuck in snow. I didn't know I could switch from 2 to 4. Is X-Drive the same as 4 wheel drive? Very good video, thanks.
Looks like fun! I have driven RWD cars in light to moderate snow with winter tires for many years (E46 M3-> 1st gen Cadillac CTS-V-> E90 M3). Works OK much of the time but it's not ideal. I just moved to a '24 G80 M3 X-drive myself and decided not to get winter wheels and tires (est. $5000) and to drive it only when the streets are salt free. While I'm sure it would perform quite well as you've demonstrated, I have another winter vehicle that I'm more comfortable subjecting to the harsh conditions. I just want to point out that driving this car in 2WD mode for comparison doesn't necessarily equate to driving an M3-competition non-X-drive unless you are particularly careful about the traction and stability control settings which may need to be off or partially off to put it in that mode and then may compromise snow performance compared with other RWD cars.
Thanks for the comment. Nice move you made :) And you are right about the 2WD. I can't enable traction control in that mode. It's not a 100% fair comparison, but seemed like a fun video to make. I always wonder why don't people just buy the winter tires and swap them on your wheels? Been doing that for all my cars. Costs like $50-60 to swap all 4.
I've always had dedicated winter wheels + tires which I've swapped myself 12/1 and 4/1 each season (usually in a square setup 1" smaller than stock rims). For my past vehicles I've found that winter tires were not available for stock rims so there wasn't an option to just change the tires. Also, I've been told that mounting/unmounting isn't good for the tires when done repeatedly and they may scratch your rims each time they do it. I'm impressed you can get it done for that price. I've been charged $30 for each when I mount new tires. @@thebimmerbros
Those tires must suck. I drove in the same amount of snow in my Michelin Pilot sport all season 4’s and they seemed just as good if not better. I also have an M3C Xdrive
All wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. Big difference and it's important that people don't confuse the two. I see it confused the most in the UK where actual 4 wheel drive vehicles must be a rarity (other than Land Rovers, I guess.) Maybe the Brits don't do much off-roading? Because the difference is profound once the terrain gets rough.
New M models has changed the range , they are more capable able can do lots of things . Go on track days , drift around , do winter hillclimbs , change to 2WD or 4WD use it in winter they are crazy . new M3 Touring is also incredible saloon model doesn't have any difference while driving . comparing to G80 . M'2 G87 is also very fun in steering/size factors. Gxx Are pretty much all rounders......
I guess when the car is in RWD mode the traction control action is intentionally diminished to make the car sportier. That’s the reason why BMW would put a RWD option in a AWD car, so it gets easier for you to do things like drifting. That’s why the performance in snow is so worse with RWD mode. If you want the best traction possible go for AWD.
@@minigiant8998 i know, but i like the pre LCI more. I already had a hard time getting to like the big screen instead of the regular tachometer and idrive screen.
Congrats :) I have the valvetronic equal lenght midpipe installed. It removed 2 cats and OPF. I daily drive this, so it can't be too crazy loud for me. No drones or annoying noises on the highway, but amazing sound on the sportiest setting.
even if I really like BMW, it's ridiculous to have the choice in the vehicle between 2wd and 4wd because when you are in 4wd you no longer want to go back to 2wd. And in the turns there is almost no need to brake so you go faster by staying on the trajectory and you save fuel because in general with a 2wd you often brake like all cars when entering turns or of certain roundabouts to then reaccelerate. but be careful because on BMW there are still many problems with the xdrive. It’s still a nice video, thank you.
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damn, the difference between 2 and 4wd is way bigger than expected.
great video
In snow is like day and night, but in great conditions is not that different.
because there is little weight on the back wheels I think
Hes giving it full throttle without tc of course its not going to grip.
4wd is really good, but tires make bigger difference.
@@IV-ABut has good tires and 2WD is comparatively terrible
biggset thing to remember is 4wd doesn't break you faster, so get better tires.
3:13 how beautiful snow flew off the wheels
yeh prob damaged the rubbers on the linkages
i love how bentley driver watched when u perfectly sliding
Bentley Schmentley
So cool they finally developed a 100% switchable system.
This is nothing new. They’ve been having this system on American trucks for awhile now
Mercedes has it too in the 4matic system
@@Glocktavius_the3rd not the same
Audi has had this since the 90’s
@@word8512 Audi can't make 100% of the power go to the rears in quattro
I am no expert but I'd try to not start with full gas on snow. Once tires start slipping they actually grip much less than when not slipping, that applies to any surface. That's why starting in 2nd gear is recommended in snowy conditions to lessen torque and decerease likelihood of tires starting to slip
Seriously lol, the guy in the video just floors it and wonders why 2WD doesn't get any traction...
I think you accidentally discovered the coefficient of friction 😂
@@anno1602regardless it underperforms AWD lol but it’s not like 0
Your using waaay to much throttle for it to be a good comparison. Cool to watch you drive in the snow non the less.
That is a beautiful color. Looks awesome in the snow!
The G80 M3 can do subzero temperatures as well. I drive my 2 WD G80 a couple weeks ago in temperatures of -38C with no problem at all.
Breaking news: 4wd bests 2wd in snow!
Jokes aside, cool comparisons.
Where was the jokes?
@@alnilam8048 Sir, I was making a joke.
@@alnilam8048 where is the news, that 4wd is better than 2wd in snow or slippy ground ?
4wd gets you to the scene of your accident faster in bad conditions 🤣
Breaking news turning traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle isn't going to drive very well in the snow...
Finally someone tested this. Always wondered 🔥
Nice! And that's the reason why people should get a brand-new BMW instead of getting used and then complain about its reliability
On my F30 xDrive the traction mode also chances the launching in the snow completely. So I feel like it's not exactly a comprehensive comparison, it's not only the number of wheels that's important.
I do love those 4wd donuts though - I remember how ecstatic I was when I learned the car can practically lock itself in the perpetual rotation around its own center axis! Awesome feeling!
i was in puerto rico last week and saw the most beautiful IOMG m3... really sparkled in the sunshine!
Man, def one of the best video out there for Gx platforms lol
Cool test! The incremental gain is way bigger than what other journalists lead us to believe! I’ll not be pulling the trigger on that i4 e40 and keep my 440 x drive. Thanks!
Great video! Please do another one this winter, but try heavy braking and braking in general from 100-0km/h, etc!
Awesome vid 😀
Thumbs up for the effort of the cameraman!
One of his low paid employes - or why do you think he's got fingers like a piano player?
I Love my Subaru.
2wd is good enough 9 out of 10 times and it more fun to drift imo. 4wd is only for the practical needs. I have driven only rwd for 18 years now here in norway with zero problems. its more about the driver than anything. a little momentum and u get up almost anywhere you need.
100% agree. I am now with my rwd M140i in Lapland in Finland and I am really surprised how capable it is. I haven’t been stuck once and there is a lot of snow here. I run Hankook Icept 3 winter tyres and have a LSD.
@@jessecrwn sounds like a lot of fun👌🏻
well the m3 xdrive can be RWD or AWD. best of both worlds.
@@minigiant8998 yes definitely!
The fact that that car with rwd on snow is 5 seconds faster from 0 to 60 than my car is on a dry road really made me realize that I have to buy a new car
How do you like those Alpin 5? I can't decide between Michelin X-Ice Snow and Michelin Alpin 5 for my 2024 X3M. I downsized from 21 OEM wheels and bought a set of OEM X5 wheels 20x9 to fit my winter tires.
Where are the money from ?
I have one of these. Although I hope to never be in this situation, I'm glad it can handle it if necessary.
Great comparison video. So many people say RWD is perfectly good in snow with winter tires... and it "can be" depending on the circumstances, but this really shows how superior AWD is overall. And once you mod the G8X platform, the first two gears become worthless unless it's 100 degrees out with sticky tires and you roll into the throttle.
you are very smooth on the gas heheh
You would be amazed what only 100lbs of sandbags in the trunk does for your snow grip. Try that and test it for us.
I have an M550i with X-Drive and have never got stuck in snow. I didn't know I could switch from 2 to 4. Is X-Drive the same as 4 wheel drive? Very good video, thanks.
Looks like fun! I have driven RWD cars in light to moderate snow with winter tires for many years (E46 M3-> 1st gen Cadillac CTS-V-> E90 M3). Works OK much of the time but it's not ideal. I just moved to a '24 G80 M3 X-drive myself and decided not to get winter wheels and tires (est. $5000) and to drive it only when the streets are salt free. While I'm sure it would perform quite well as you've demonstrated, I have another winter vehicle that I'm more comfortable subjecting to the harsh conditions. I just want to point out that driving this car in 2WD mode for comparison doesn't necessarily equate to driving an M3-competition non-X-drive unless you are particularly careful about the traction and stability control settings which may need to be off or partially off to put it in that mode and then may compromise snow performance compared with other RWD cars.
Thanks for the comment. Nice move you made :) And you are right about the 2WD. I can't enable traction control in that mode. It's not a 100% fair comparison, but seemed like a fun video to make.
I always wonder why don't people just buy the winter tires and swap them on your wheels? Been doing that for all my cars. Costs like $50-60 to swap all 4.
I've always had dedicated winter wheels + tires which I've swapped myself 12/1 and 4/1 each season (usually in a square setup 1" smaller than stock rims). For my past vehicles I've found that winter tires were not available for stock rims so there wasn't an option to just change the tires. Also, I've been told that mounting/unmounting isn't good for the tires when done repeatedly and they may scratch your rims each time they do it. I'm impressed you can get it done for that price. I've been charged $30 for each when I mount new tires. @@thebimmerbros
4 Wheel drive is a must for a 500 hp car. Anybody who orders the 2 wheel drive is ridiculous.
Yes, 4wd for traction. 4 season tyres for safety in winter.
Сравнительный тест хороший, но резина не подходит для такого количества снега, она больше для европейских зим
What a beautiful video!
*Good*
Have you tried the Wagon version? do you like it?
Ugh BMW colors are so 🔥 🔥
Hey man, what tire sizes you run on the winter tires?
Those tires must suck. I drove in the same amount of snow in my Michelin Pilot sport all season 4’s and they seemed just as good if not better. I also have an M3C Xdrive
All wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. Big difference and it's important that people don't confuse the two. I see it confused the most in the UK where actual 4 wheel drive vehicles must be a rarity (other than Land Rovers, I guess.) Maybe the Brits don't do much off-roading? Because the difference is profound once the terrain gets rough.
Cool. The real wheel drive BMW M3 has a 4wd as if it is a pick up truck. I never thought that would be in a sedan.
This is expected without any suprise. But the one who get the 2wd is just for the fun side.
As michelin x-ice snow user the alpine 5 is horrible tyre in snow and ice
Great test thanks
New M models has changed the range , they are more capable able can do lots of things . Go on track days , drift around , do winter hillclimbs , change to 2WD or 4WD use it in winter they are crazy . new M3 Touring is also incredible saloon model doesn't have any difference while driving . comparing to G80 . M'2 G87 is also very fun in steering/size factors. Gxx Are pretty much all rounders......
Amazing video! Can you do something similar with 4WD sport?
What a great video.
Thanks for sharing
Pilot Alpin 5 ju lääne euroopa lamell, mis meie talves paras prügi. Miks päris talverehve ei kasuta?
Väidetavalt sellises suuruses naelrehve pole.
Awesome test
4:15 Nice Bentley Catching
Great vid! Buuuuuut, let's not pass by that very nice Bentley CGT passing by :)
This is the only reason I’d want and automatic m3… although I think they need a manual xdrive
Were you running traction control completely off in 4WD?
Based off the cluster lights, it says stability control is disabled.
would you take this or your F87 on a snowy day? But not this snowy, more like the day in the F87 video from 2 weeks ago
Why would you ever spin your wheels and rev so hard in the snow anyway? At least drive normally if you want to do a test.
Exactly this..... Result would be so much better if throttle control was good.
Have à Wonderful New Year's!// thanks
Looks fun, nice ride.
Really nice!
👍cool Video
BMW M Forever!
A mechanic told me XDrive have problems. Have you had any?
BMW FOREVER 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mammutis keegi päeval mölisema ei tulnud? :D
amazing car
in almost all parts of the world when it's winter there is no such snow so I would call it "heavy snow test" ;)
wow!
next m3 dyno 2wd, 4wd plz
Now try a 911 c2 in same conditions ; pretty sure it’ll match or beat the BMW’s AWD time.
I don’t know why anyone would buy the new M3 without AWD. It’s worth the money and help hold its resale value.
b/c the stick shift only comes in RWD.
Awesome 🔥
Its good, but on uphill it seems still struggling a little bit even on 4wd. The quattro it seems still better on a snow conditions in my opinion.
Grip comes from tyres not drive systems. You discover that, when going back down the hill.
Great video great car
good vid thanks
Это было достаточно интересно. Спасибо.
I guess when the car is in RWD mode the traction control action is intentionally diminished to make the car sportier. That’s the reason why BMW would put a RWD option in a AWD car, so it gets easier for you to do things like drifting. That’s why the performance in snow is so worse with RWD mode. If you want the best traction possible go for AWD.
Since it's Estonia i assume studded tires?
stock exhaust? I just ordered my m3 last week. What Exhaust do you recommend?
the m3 LCI comes out in july lol
@@minigiant8998 i know, but i like the pre LCI more.
I already had a hard time getting to like the big screen instead of the regular tachometer and idrive screen.
Congrats :) I have the valvetronic equal lenght midpipe installed. It removed 2 cats and OPF. I daily drive this, so it can't be too crazy loud for me. No drones or annoying noises on the highway, but amazing sound on the sportiest setting.
4:17 nice Bentley
did you try 4WD sport?
fun video thx
Its a no brainer togo Awd basically. M3 competition awd ftw.. they dont make awd manuals do they
4W
the underside of that car will be damaged from the donuts in the snow. just having snow tyres on can make a different without need for 4wd
are they on winter tire?
Really good driver, and very very nice test, but i still prefer audi's quattro
Are we really doing this with traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle?
Dude, try to very soft press on accelerate. You will impressed.
even if I really like BMW, it's ridiculous to have the choice in the vehicle between 2wd and 4wd because when you are in 4wd you no longer want to go back to 2wd. And in the turns there is almost no need to brake so you go faster by staying on the trajectory and you save fuel because in general with a 2wd you often brake like all cars when entering turns or of certain roundabouts to then reaccelerate. but be careful because on BMW there are still many problems with the xdrive. It’s still a nice video, thank you.
Visit Sweden in the winter and learn from 15 years old children how to drive a rear wheel drive car on snow. 😂
such great having fun ~~
0-100 2wd in full snow road and 4wd in cleaned road?
and 4wd sport?
Sehr schön! Dieses Video liefert mir den Beweis. Ich fahre mit Xdrive eben doch besser.
Rallye-Style sieht einfach doch cooler aus.
M 4WD insane!
You need better tires and be easier on the gas pedal.
It’s probably safe to say most people don’t drive their M3 Comps in any type of snowy weather
Be gentle on the gas it will grip better
great video brother keep doin that sh
Try when is ESP on
Even so I love 2 wd mooreee!!
Lucky you 👍😜
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Bmw the best
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