@DaffeDavidsen but if that's your real friend you wouldn't send a play at him no matter if he was playing you. Especially if you aint approached him about it first
Yo whoever they had supplying the beats esp the ones where they're re-interpreting other actual songs is on fuckin point in this one... Beef 1 also the same.
I don't usually accuse men if acting feminine when talking but..... maybe there's a reason he was defending Bumbuta. I knew that KRS was extremely factually inaccurate and illogical but he comes across as suspicious
@user-wb7nv9ht1g : I don't like to go with the he-say, she-say jive, but "He(Krs1)" said he was Bambatta's D.J equipment guy and set up Bams set, and "They" said Bam touched all of his boys. Who knows??
Proof was a sincere, genuine, real brotha. You can tell he’s official, cut from the cloth, and really comes from that.. he doesn’t add the extras, or the overdramatic body language, the Fredo Starr energy 😂, just normal, and chill, because it’s not a movie.. not acting.. it’s life, and real shit can happen over someone actin tough.
No. LL’s VERSE WAS TOO DISRESPECTFUL for anyone to ignore and if he didn’t wanna deal with the challenge then he should’ve also rewritten his verse! He didn’t wanna do that and then expected his OPPONENT to WAIT for him (LL) to finish what he was doing and got good and ready to address/(fix) it? No. My response would’ve been recorded immediately.
@thediaz07 he wanted to beef with Cannibus and the fact that he (LL) wanted to do an underground record was proof that he wanted the beef (he probably was the one leaking the original record and letting people know his verse was a diss to Cannibus)
Facts! Canibus destroyed LL Cool J, lmao 🤣 LL sound dated asl, but LL had the keys to the industry.. he has the numbers, Hollywood connections, etc. Canibus couldn’t win that war, but he definitely won the battle where it counted- the music.
KRS wasn't entirely wrong to me. It was a natural path for someone from his era. It was a different time. All legends go through that phase where they fear they will be phased out of hip-hop memory. And the new music feels unrecognizable to the hip-hop that raised them. And it takes less and less effort to make it big when it seemed impossible to make an impression back then. Even Eminem is doing that now. All we can do as a culture is notice when this happens and remind them they still have a place forever. KRS was still far more important in the culture than Nelly ever was, Nelly was just never supposed to have been taken that seriously to begin with. That "#1" song from Nelly is his best song ever. And the way he addressed KRS in the 3rd verse was him outclassing the situation in a brilliant way
He was definitely reaching and then he basically tied Nelly in the beef which was a fat L for supposedly one of the greatest "battle emcees" of all time. I remember when it happened; all the purist old heads were ashamed and just acted like it never happened.
Loyalty down the drain; I think what happened between Mack and Cube's beef wasn't really about Cube wife's brother it could have been about strictly Cube's wife in general
Cube definitely jacked the hook to Thorw Your Set in the Air but King of the Hill is a top ten diss track of all time imo. I feel bad for B Real cuz he was definitely in the right but lost the battle
What I always found funny about K-Solo was he was going so hard about one song like that was what would’ve made his career 😂. Bro DMX wrote way more songs and had a legendary career. What you do?
KRS was right, and wrong, but right 😂 that record was a life changing one for a new artist- end up being a career ender for one of THE underrated GOAT emcees.
This being about the business of hiphop was something I did not see with my young eyes. All I saw was beef and ignorance. Now I see what the real beef is.
Ice cube version of Friday was better it’s like a comic that steals a joke but does it better. lol truth is truth. If Cypress gave it up we would’ve never got ice cubes Friday song 🤷♂️
The best takeaway was Rox hitting up that label for an Ivy league education. The second was Meth being a legend himself yet also being honest enough to admit he was probably too outdated to rock summer jam 15 years or so later. So now he can say F that show freely.😂
As I got older I realized how trash LL SHIT WAS n corny what he did , he did the same corny shit to foxy brown dissed her for no reason on that remix and when they performed at Apollo had her mic cut , but I get it supposedly LL n jay been had smoke since early on so that could be why he did foxy like that she was tied in with jay
Ice cube got away with alot, nobody really pulled his g card, in the streets cube probably had little respect but so dope on mic ,you didn't care that he wasn't a street cat
@@tonybravado8231 well canibus joint was the better diss record that’s all that matters n don’t tell me what I wouldn’t understand like I wasn’t there or something
Meth: “Fuck Summer Jam… I’ma regret that later. Any time y’all need me to perform, I’m there.” 😂😂😂😂 How many years was that after Ghostface Killah said “fuck Summer Jam”?
No disrespect to LL but you was wrong for not taking out that line on 4321 cannibus was showing love not dissing but in my opinion 2nd round knockout was fire
Fr. I honestly think Krs was just trying to get some spotlight back off of Nellys fame. Nelly was at his peak. Krs is a legend so it's not disrespectful what I'm saying.
As someone who was 10 a hip hop fan who respected the old school, I couldn’t understand why he was dissing him. It was my first experience of an old head just straight hating.
I don’t understand how the Mexican mafia was getting involved with Cypress Hill and West Side connection beef when B real is a blood … that don’t make no sense
@@guyprieto1593 naw … I’m talking from experience not from what I think … B Real is from literally across the street from me … I know all them dudes extremely well and bloods and South siders don’t get along… What would his homies say about him dealing with the Mexican mafia ??? It don’t make sense
Mack 10 was way too real for the industry, bro had real principles, and morals, when it came to the game.. but, the game isn’t the streets, and you can’t win against contracts & lawyers using a gang bangers approach. Shame on Dub too, bro left his team hanging, because he was cool with Cypress Hill- Mack was on point, right, or wrong, you ride with your folks regardless, and check em once it’s over. Canibus destroyed LL Cool J with 2nd Round Knockout.. but, the industry & LL Cool J ruined that man’s career, a potential legend that could’ve created classics, was rug pulled by industry tactics- Wyclef did him dirty, produced him album all crazy, and LL pulled strings behind the scenes to have him blackballed on radio, and tours.. Canibus really had the pen, flow, and insane punchlines, but had a terrible ear when it came to choosing beats. If he had the right ppl working with him? He’d be an Eninem, but not the success, just the respect & comfortable success like Royce da 5’9”
![Biggie Vs. Nas, JAY-Z, Wu-Tang, Big L & The Roots - Beef Documentary [King Of New York]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/T4KZQrNg39I/mqdefault.jpg)
Man this went platinum at the barber shop.
This comment should have a billion likes. The barber shop was the theater for these dvds
@@Cam-xg9gu I miss it when Barbershops had TV's
@@91Definiteand they all had a Muhammad Ali poster somewhere in the shop lol
@@haezeushawkins436my dad still got one in his shop😂😂😂😂
💯💯💯😂
Keith David is a legend. Great narrator.
I think that maybe Keith David
@leronflames lmao that's what I meant
@@leronflamestook you a while to graduate huh?
spawn
& even better Actor than Narrator
Roxanne Shante was like John Wick back then, fearlessly coming for everybody with just pure lyrics💪🏾
Being part of prime Juice Crew helps a lot. Marley and Kane behind your back brings confidence
@volodymyrbilyk555 Word🙌🏾
💯%
2000’s was a crazy era, a lie detector test for a song 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Dey need do it nie these with this mess of a era 😅
I think that was the 90's.
@ it was, but they did this dvd in the 2000’s that’s why I said it. But you are right technically it was the 90’s since y that is when it happened
Alltimer 😂🎉
Cube trying to be sneaky with using Cypress Hill lines and hook.
That definitely was a good one my opinion looking back at it
Cube definitely stole it 😆😆😆
@@twocents6951 facts lol
Yeah Mr.Cubicles was dirty 😂
King of da hill so hard doe 😭😭😭
"We can bring the lie detector out right now!"
Brings out lie detector
Man I loved the 90s. 😂
this was the 2000s
That empd robbery story is crazy
@@VahidMusictx too crazy
I don't think PMD still over it as he should, but I lost respect for Erick Sermon a few years back though
Most definitely wild
@@91Definiteits stil believed Perrish hold money from eric
@DaffeDavidsen but if that's your real friend you wouldn't send a play at him no matter if he was playing you. Especially if you aint approached him about it first
Yo whoever they had supplying the beats esp the ones where they're re-interpreting other actual songs is on fuckin point in this one... Beef 1 also the same.
Them beats is almost better than the originals lol 😂😂😂 but they are hard !
Seeing Franklin from GTA 5 is crazy lol
KRS1 always trying to start some kind of beef.
KRS face expressions are crazy, I'm surprised women were dating him back in the day. KRS is somebody that be starting shit
I don't usually accuse men if acting feminine when talking but..... maybe there's a reason he was defending Bumbuta. I knew that KRS was extremely factually inaccurate and illogical but he comes across as suspicious
@user-wb7nv9ht1g : I don't like to go with the he-say, she-say jive, but "He(Krs1)" said he was Bambatta's D.J equipment guy and set up Bams set, and "They" said Bam touched all of his boys. Who knows??
hes been living off the past since the past
hip hop is a bloodsport.
That ending was crazy. She showed them. 👸🏾
Proof was a sincere, genuine, real brotha. You can tell he’s official, cut from the cloth, and really comes from that.. he doesn’t add the extras, or the overdramatic body language, the Fredo Starr energy 😂, just normal, and chill, because it’s not a movie.. not acting.. it’s life, and real shit can happen over someone actin tough.
😂 like pac being a ballea` princess at a private catholik schuul🤣🤣🤣😝🛑🤭☠💀💀☠👀🤫🤫🤫🐒💩💩🕳🕳
Yoooo. Man. Those days spent at the library watching the beef videos when I first join the Army. I don’t wanna grow up.
Do you remember me
I remember when i first watched the beef dvd back in the day ..the lie detector part killed me 😂😂
These were ground breaking breaking back then. Now these docs are Everywhere.
SHANTE & MC Lyte hardest females pioneers rap artists EVER! - untouchable til dis day ❤💣💋
The early 2000s era was so good this video made me appreciate it more after this video
Didnt Quincy Jones Son make these Dvds??😂Hood classics
Yes
Yes at the time he was a film maker and producer Goin by the name QD3
Also produced several 2 pac tracks.
Ice cubes always been sneaky acting innocent lol
29:49 Franklin From GTA 5 The only person in real life who actually was LIKE THAT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Looking back at it now, Nelly exposed KRS One hypocrisy.
Facts
He was just mad his time was up
always loved how QD3 did little rip-off versions of the hits being mentioned in the background lol
Bringing out a lie detector was wild
This is mad old… I remember this series from the early 2000’s on DVD
Ye know shit. Its real hiphop. Best time in hiphop. ❤ 87-07 best 20 years of hiphop. 93-03 best 10 years ❤
K-solo with that lie detector test 😂😂😂😂
Damn Franklin knocked ice cube out and took his chain🤯
We need to bring these back
Now it'll be such and such killed such and such opp smh, junk is not hip hop
There is enough beef in hiphop today for at least 3 more beef docs
U won't be able to interview em they would've shot eachother
Genz will never understand we used to sneak n watch these at our cousins house lmaoooo I was like 4/5 watching these frfr
No. LL’s VERSE WAS TOO DISRESPECTFUL for anyone to ignore and if he didn’t wanna deal with the challenge then he should’ve also rewritten his verse! He didn’t wanna do that and then expected his OPPONENT to WAIT for him (LL) to finish what he was doing and got good and ready to address/(fix) it? No. My response would’ve been recorded immediately.
Exactly 💯. LL tried to punk canibus and expected him to just take the disrespect.
@thediaz07 he wanted to beef with Cannibus and the fact that he (LL) wanted to do an underground record was proof that he wanted the beef (he probably was the one leaking the original record and letting people know his verse was a diss to Cannibus)
I love the pic of bizzare frozen while he gets dissed weak ASF 😂😂😂
Facts 😂😂😂
EPMD Back in business is one of the best shit 👌🏿 ❤
Canibus won…popularity said LL won…but heads knew better
Facts! Canibus destroyed LL Cool J, lmao 🤣 LL sound dated asl, but LL had the keys to the industry.. he has the numbers, Hollywood connections, etc. Canibus couldn’t win that war, but he definitely won the battle where it counted- the music.
@@MidTierVillain he could've won the war if he had better producers. alot of his beats were trash.
Roxane Shontay is a Queen fr. Never backed down and finessed her way into a degree 🎉
The real Doc.
Imagine going on tour with people that the police suspected of trying to rob you. 😅
Keith David, movie star and the voice of Call of Duty.
44:00 pause
🤦♂️
Hell naw
>|| like shyt
😂
Ayyyeeooo
That Malcom X diss by Royce and Tre Little is a classic
who tf is Tre little lol
@@BluntVillea Detroit kid back in the early 00s
Ice cube not being able to ask for the money he was owed or knowing he hadn’t been paid properly is dumb
Second round KO is one of the top 5 best diss tracks of all time. Canibus won that song vs song.
A lot of people think LL lost to kool moe dee to. It’s all subjective but popularity goes a long way
Yes. Ll definitely lost that battle & used his popularity to box out cannibus
Krs1 vs nelly...was just krs1 reaching..
Frl Krs was I some clown shit
KRS wasn't entirely wrong to me. It was a natural path for someone from his era.
It was a different time. All legends go through that phase where they fear they will be phased out of hip-hop memory. And the new music feels unrecognizable to the hip-hop that raised them. And it takes less and less effort to make it big when it seemed impossible to make an impression back then. Even Eminem is doing that now.
All we can do as a culture is notice when this happens and remind them they still have a place forever. KRS was still far more important in the culture than Nelly ever was, Nelly was just never supposed to have been taken that seriously to begin with.
That "#1" song from Nelly is his best song ever. And the way he addressed KRS in the 3rd verse was him outclassing the situation in a brilliant way
KRS-ONE always loved beef. And battle
He was definitely reaching and then he basically tied Nelly in the beef which was a fat L for supposedly one of the greatest "battle emcees" of all time. I remember when it happened; all the purist old heads were ashamed and just acted like it never happened.
HE THOUGHT NY WAS GOING TO FOLLOW. BUT NELLY SELLS
Now Canibus takes the L at a battle when he breaks out his notepad. You wanna hear my shit or what 🤣🤣
Mac-10 always looks like he's about to sneeze.
I love these hip-hop documentary that used to come out
Lol @ Canibus
Rest in peace proof
Rip to everybody in this video that passed. Rip Kangol Kid, proof, scott La rock, Dmx, Afeni shakur 🕊️
DJ Kay Slay also R. I. P drama 👑
LL did Canibus dirty and got destroyed lyrically. Bis' tore him TF up
"Fuck Anger Management, I Need Someone To Manage My Anger."
Uhhhh... Royce, Isn't It Anger Management When You Find Someone To Manage Your Anger? 😂😂😂
I used to love watching this series when I was a youngster
Wait solo is Franklin from GTA 5?!?!?!
Jupp thats rigth
Watched these DVD’s religiously
Keith David... eloquent speaker
Mack 10 was a real one 💯
Loyalty down the drain; I think what happened between Mack and Cube's beef wasn't really about Cube wife's brother it could have been about strictly Cube's wife in general
Cube definitely jacked the hook to Thorw Your Set in the Air but King of the Hill is a top ten diss track of all time imo. I feel bad for B Real cuz he was definitely in the right but lost the battle
Jupp. But he would have won in the streets. So I'm glad the beef cooled down
What I always found funny about K-Solo was he was going so hard about one song like that was what would’ve made his career 😂. Bro DMX wrote way more songs and had a legendary career. What you do?
YOU LUCKY 2 BE ON THE RECORD😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Always loved that comment!!
the algo seen me watchn drake vs kendrick content. smh
KRS was right, and wrong, but right 😂 that record was a life changing one for a new artist- end up being a career ender for one of THE underrated GOAT emcees.
This being about the business of hiphop was something I did not see with my young eyes. All I saw was beef and ignorance. Now I see what the real beef is.
Ice cube version of Friday was better it’s like a comic that steals a joke but does it better. lol truth is truth. If Cypress gave it up we would’ve never got ice cubes Friday song 🤷♂️
The best takeaway was Rox hitting up that label for an Ivy league education. The second was Meth being a legend himself yet also being honest enough to admit he was probably too outdated to rock summer jam 15 years or so later. So now he can say F that show freely.😂
I think it turned out that she lied about the phd
billy squiers big beat is all over those early beef records
I love LL, my first favorite mc. But I always thought Canibus won that battle
This is amazing. Thankyou 🎉
Lyrically, diss wise Canibus cooked LL easily. Perfect example of a lopsided popularity contest.
On the ripper strikes back LL went off
@@marcuspullom6454 still wasn't enough. Canibus won the rap battle. 2nd Round Ko is one of the best diss tracks ever.
@@marcuspullom6454Fact🗣️💯
As I got older I realized how trash LL SHIT WAS n corny what he did , he did the same corny shit to foxy brown dissed her for no reason on that remix and when they performed at Apollo had her mic cut , but I get it supposedly LL n jay been had smoke since early on so that could be why he did foxy like that she was tied in with jay
Doesnt matter, Canibi bodied himself against Dizaster bringing out the paper. @@thediaz07
And the lie detector says 😂😂😂😂
Some beefs are too much
Flagrant 2.
44:00 no Diddy 🤦🏾♂️
Licked his lips and all hellnaw
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣
You can see the exact moment he realises what he said 😭
Man that didn’t age good at all 🤣😂
Ice cube got away with alot, nobody really pulled his g card, in the streets cube probably had little respect but so dope on mic ,you didn't care that he wasn't a street cat
Solo,that was the voice of GTA V Franklin
Solo is Franklin
This was my bible 1 2 and 3 HIP HOP!!!!
Wow very interesting.
Roxanne Shante going kinda crazy 😂
Krs one excuse for LL was bullshit…..he tried to LIL Boy canibus
That was the attitude for 80’s MC’s. You wouldn’t understand that. They didn’t take prisoners or care about little guy’s feelings.
@@tonybravado8231and got smoked
Lemme borrow is like leme see that real quick ayt now turn around n walk
@@tonybravado8231 well canibus joint was the better diss record that’s all that matters n don’t tell me what I wouldn’t understand like I wasn’t there or something
I love this docu but comon....that Lie detector scene was wack as f***
Nigga literally asked for it
😂😂😂😂
Shi was hilarious
you always got a keep a mindless crashout like mack10 in your crew just in case
That's what BG was for the Hot Boys lol
K solo sounds like the game when he raps
Now Cube need to call Mac 10 n fix things with him n get Westside Connek back. We need another Westside Connection album.
Royce killed that D12 shit.
Meth: “Fuck Summer Jam… I’ma regret that later. Any time y’all need me to perform, I’m there.” 😂😂😂😂
How many years was that after Ghostface Killah said “fuck Summer Jam”?
No disrespect to LL but you was wrong for not taking out that line on 4321 cannibus was showing love not dissing but in my opinion 2nd round knockout was fire
When hiphop was hiphop
Royce ain’t wrong about d12 being whack. I used to like them when I was 15, then I grew up lol
They were nothing without Eminem. Hence the song "My Band" They knew it too 😂
LL definitely loss that battle.
🤦🏾♂️ facts!!
Won the war though. Disaster ended the battle
Became a DR. For a 170k. Legendary!!!!!!
Canibus won...I dont understand how anybody likes LL record better
LL tried to son Canibus and it didn’t work that’s why you have to stay humble mf had the big head
@@southsiderebel493LL did kill him im sorry.
LL song was trash!! I used to be MAD cause everyone saying he won with that weak song with the super hero beat lol
@@alexp8455 In what way? His word play was basic and didn't come with no knockout lines. Like Kool Moe Dee said, his energy was good, but that was it.
@@DMVrollay’all sound like clowns.
" You Lucky to be On the Rekerrr "
Damn Craig really couldn't fight for real. He started the fight and then let Franklin dust him off.
29:58 that Franklin from GTA5
Yeppppp still got that yeye ass haircut😂😂😂 nah but I’m gonna miss seeing him and Lamar in the gta series man I hope they come to 6
KRS was reaching with that Nelly shyt
Fr. I honestly think Krs was just trying to get some spotlight back off of Nellys fame. Nelly was at his peak. Krs is a legend so it's not disrespectful what I'm saying.
Facts
He definitely was on some hating shit
Same thing he did to Shan. He dissed Nelly for attention and because he knew Nelly wasn't a battle MC.@@olliesmith4997
As someone who was 10 a hip hop fan who respected the old school, I couldn’t understand why he was dissing him. It was my first experience of an old head just straight hating.
Krs was on the album cover with a weapon emulating Malcolm X. Its deeper then what nelly was trying to sum that up to
I don’t understand how the Mexican mafia was getting involved with Cypress Hill and West Side connection beef when B real is a blood … that don’t make no sense
Im sure they have connections to some people making money.
@ that still don’t make sense… Mexican Mafia protecting a Mexican blood ??? That don’t make sense
@DoughMega-n8i cmon bro money talks. Alot of affiliations are made because of money. Look at the inside
@@guyprieto1593 naw … I’m talking from experience not from what I think … B Real is from literally across the street from me … I know all them dudes extremely well and bloods and South siders don’t get along… What would his homies say about him dealing with the Mexican mafia ??? It don’t make sense
@@DoughMega-n8i didn't they protect suge knight at one point?
44:03 pause 😂😂
He talking that suck ya dick shit. I wanted to show him how we succ dicc 😂
After king of the hill that's shit was over..cube and Mack had killed them
B real like: I knew about the diss uh we wrote it for the barbershop sound track
😂😂😂 Cube responded on the "Are We There Yet" soundtrack 😂😂😂
@Jonathan-tb9bo what a good movie and soundtrack 👌🏿
😊@@Jonathan-tb9bo
Mack 10 was way too real for the industry, bro had real principles, and morals, when it came to the game.. but, the game isn’t the streets, and you can’t win against contracts & lawyers using a gang bangers approach.
Shame on Dub too, bro left his team hanging, because he was cool with Cypress Hill- Mack was on point, right, or wrong, you ride with your folks regardless, and check em once it’s over.
Canibus destroyed LL Cool J with 2nd Round Knockout.. but, the industry & LL Cool J ruined that man’s career, a potential legend that could’ve created classics, was rug pulled by industry tactics- Wyclef did him dirty, produced him album all crazy, and LL pulled strings behind the scenes to have him blackballed on radio, and tours.. Canibus really had the pen, flow, and insane punchlines, but had a terrible ear when it came to choosing beats. If he had the right ppl working with him? He’d be an Eninem, but not the success, just the respect & comfortable success like Royce da 5’9”
Ye he would have been bigger than royce. Royce is good but he dont have all the star qualities
Royce has been better than Em for a long while.
49:19 KRS One Vs. Nelly
Yo did he fail the lie detector test? 😂
It was going crazy when ‘spellbound” was brought up😂😂😂 so he basically failed.
Yooo this crazy I seen SOLO(FRANKLIN)ice T this crazy, the world is a small place
44:00 minutes in, k solo sayin what he said is just outta line and big pause on that 🤣🤣
Still waiting for beef 3…
I love the ending