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My First Time Printing Shirts with a DTG PRINTER!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2022
- Step by step we go through my very first time using the Polyprint Echo 2 direct to garment printer and Pretreater Pro
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Dude!
Do you print t shirts like that shadow of intent?
Hey Lee, Nice work you got going on over there. what is your shop set up? what are the equipments that get you such fine final tees and product?
We do a LOT of DTG and we've found that if you do multiple smaller-timed presses (with a few seconds in between), you dry the shirt without crystalizing the pre-treat. Details: Using medium pressure set to 350 degrees press the "box" area in 15 second intervals, flipping the curing sheet between each press. (Most tees take 4 presses to dry.) Finalize by pressing the tee under heavy pressure to prevent fibrillation. (edited)
What DTG you recommend per your experience?
I would also like to know
@@MrAlbertodelacruz We run Brother GTX Pros. The machine is incredible and produces the best prints I've seen without going the route of $100K+ units. The company sucks to work with and their backend ordering site has been down all year. Thankfully, 3rd party sellers are cheaper with official parts/supplier any way. I can't recommend the GTX Pro enough.
@@brantsarkela3189 @3Dimenziones Studios We run Brother GTX Pros. The machine is incredible and produces the best prints I've seen without going the route of $100K+ units. The company sucks to work with and their backend ordering site has been down all year. Thankfully, 3rd party sellers are cheaper with official parts/supplier any way. I can't recommend the GTX Pro enough.
A tip for the pretreat box…
Pretreat your shirts a day in advance and hang them to air dry. The next day, press them to remove remaining moisture. Or even conveyor dry them (they will have a different print).
When curing the pretreat we mostly like to dry them on the conveyor (very slow speed & lower temp than screen print), the box will not be there & the print will be more vibrant since you’re not smashing the ink down as when heat pressing.
I remember when i first found your channel and commented with tips on when you were experimenting with printing boxes…back then I had all the same equipment as you. Now I look forward to watching your videos for advise, keep kickin ass and helping all of us printers out!!!
O snap i finally got a notification from the channel. NEVER clicked so fast. I am excited to see this!!!
Good to be back!
When I used to run DTG I would pretreat all the shirts a day before or all of them at the same time before printing which actually was more productive. The way I avoided the pretreat box to a min is to hover the heat press close to the shirt for about 1 min before pressing the pretreated shirts.
I'll give that a go. I have a few things to test for next time
After left the shirt for a day? Do we need to heatpress the shirt back before we print the shirt?
@@aimaniman5557 it's best to press it again for around 5 sec and then print.
@@crumptees i will try the tip bro, thanks a lot
Good to see you making content again! DTG is one of those fascinating options in our space, that I’ve never been in love with it, but glad to hear it’s making strides in the right direction. I know you’re somebody who is particular about the details so it’s good to hear that it’s passing the “Lee test” haha. Looking forward to more of your videos in the future, keep up the great work!
Thanks dude! I used to hate DTG but I'm happy to say that it's made great progress since then. I'm already very impressed with this setup and I can see that growing once I really figure things out and perfect it all.
@@leestuart38 Yeah, same, I used t o hate DTG, def keep us posted on how it goes with the quality and functionality. I know our shop is looking to get into either DTF or DTG for for all the reasons you mentioned in the video. Not having control over quality and turn time is a hard set of handcuffs to deal with sometimes.
I have a Ricoh ri1000 DTG and Viper Maxx pretreatment. DTG adds so much value to my print shop. To avoid the DTG box as much as possible, I use light pressure and low temperature (285 degrees) when curing the pretreatment. The light pressure allows the pretreatment vapors/steam to escape from under the heat press. Also recommend opening a door or setting up ventilation so you're not breathing in those pretreatment vapors.
I've got a few new tricks and gadgets to try for the next one that should help minimize that box
@@leestuart38 As long as ya "press" as long ya´ll get the box - if ya proof me wrong, please, asap - thanks! :-)
(Try tunnel-drying if ya run screenprint-jobs simultaneously anyhow)
love the beats you chose for your videos
Awesome video! Glad to see your back ad reviewing exactly what we were waiting for. We bought this printer a couple of months back and we were excited to see your thought and videos on it! Definitely have learned a lot from running our business with it and it has felt a little lonely with so few quality videos and reviews on this printer( tbh DTG as a whole). The prints on this thing come out beautiful (like yours in the video) and it really does get the job done. One thing we will say is to DEEP clean the printer every night. Not just like the videos they provide, but a full cleaning to make the wiper, printhead, and capping station look almost brand new. The ink can dry very quickly and even the smallest missed spot can cause many issues.
We also noticed that Printhead Cleanings must be done every 10-15 prints (Polyprint never told us this), but when your doing a full production you will see the white start to fade after 10-15 prints. This was all brought up to us in a Facebook Group for Echo 2 Owners that we HIGHLY recommend. With the Polyprint HQ being in Greece it's hard to get ahold of them sometimes and this group has so many amazing people waiting to help (even a Polyprint Technician). We wish you the best and would love to share advice or help if you ever need it. Looking forward to more videos and updates!
p.s. We don't have the pretreatment machine yet and we can confirm that spray gun works for starting, but it is neither ideal nor cost effective in the long run. Working towards it :)
That's great advice, thanks! I already found out that not doing the nightly clean will cause a few problems so that's something I'll be covering in future videos for sure. I'm actually in that Polyprint Facebook group so maybe I'll see you in there!
Hey Carlos & LEE I’m in the market for either this printer or the GTX brother, it’s been a year since you posted this comment so I’m wondering how has it held up ? Would you still recommend it ?
@@Questrides GTX or Epson! Ive had my Polyprint Echo 2 down and completely unusable (AGAIN) for over 3 months. Biggest headache and not worth it. It does have a good print but never consistently.
Hope this helps.
Legend has it if you get the lower heated platen power pack you can heat from the bottom and heat from the top with less heat to avoid the dtg box
I already have one on the way to test in a video haha
@@leestuart38 perfect can’t wait to see how it works keep grinding and going hard you have one of the best set ups I ever seen thanks for letting us in
Lee we run dtg using Epson F3070’s and digital factory and we also have the same BBC dryer you have. We figured out that the BBC gets rid of the pretreat box use it ! not only does bbc eliminate the pretreat box it will speed up your pretreat time.
Definitely something I'm going to test but I don't want to rely on it because I want it turning out screen prints all day without having to reset and slow down for DTG stuff
Use your tunnel dryer to cure your pretreat, then heat press the shirt prior to printing to matte down the fibers. Your heat press pad will retain moisture, making it longer to cure or not cure evenly. You can use the dryer to cure your DTF prints as well
Drying conditions for pre-treat are different than properly curing conditions for DTG. Don't recommend.
that satisfying click when you stuck it in . awesome.. glad to see ya back at making some content with all the other stuff. cheers sir. lookin fwd to what you come up with.
Nice work man!! Glad to see the notification you uploaded a new video!
The box is from the heat press. Try lowering your heat press settings to the lowest threshold of drying point and it should do the trick. Once you find the low point you can work your way back up till your happy that your getting enough heat to cure, but in many cases it just happens. I see the box even with DTF and transfer vinyl so rest assured its not your pretreat. It usually goes away even before the wash as garments get stacked and moved around a bit. Also side note, I have noticed quality of dye makes a difference. Long time viewer love the channel.
It is the pretreat in this case. I mentioned it in the video that I thought it could be the heat press marks which do go away, but the part that got sprayed stays until it's washed. I have some new stuff to try for the next one though
@@leestuart38 We use Firebird. Best we've found so far. You also need to find the bare minimum amount of pretreat that gives you the best ink coverage. Even a little extra pretreat makes it that much harder to get rid of the box. I would also suggest definitely using your conveyor dryer for speed and consistency, just make sure they come out at least a little damp to help flatten those fibers with the heat press. We are also diving into DTF and kind of pitting DTG against DTF. In my opinion, DTF has more pros over DTG then cons. I would rather create designs with more dead space for DTF and be able to press it onto any garment I can put on my heat press. DTG is so limited to the garments you can print on without having an exorbitant amount of different pretreat and print settings depending on material, color, and garment. With DTF being fairly new, I think there's a lot more room to improve ink (white especially) and powder that will help with the overall feel of the print. Pretreat is always going to hinder DTG printing, in my opinion
He's back with a banger of a video!
You convinced me to buy the same setup. Let's see if you have the same issues I did ;). One thing... watch out for the pre-treater switching tanks. Always check which tank you're on. I made my first 10 prints with the CL tank selected, and found out that they switch it back to that every time you shut down. Big gotcha for me. Good luck, can't wait to see more videos on this topic.
Made that mistake already too haha
Oh hey, Lee, lookin good, both you and Wheelie!
when I see you upload a video Im grateful man
Awesome !! Your back…. Super rad the shops cranking some shit out
Let’s GO!!!! Shop just keeps getting better can’t wait to see more!
Glad you're making vids again. I've learned a lot from these. Thanks.
Hell yea, good to see you back, Lee! 🤟🏽🤟🏽
Thanks man 🤘🏻
Bless up Lee! You inspire me so much! Keep spreading this info.
Cool to hear that!
I was wondering when Lee would start playing with his drug money toys 😂
you are still our hero.
Good to see a notification from you again! Its been a while
Glad to see you're back with another cool video
That printer has some serious vibrancy. Nice colours. Im curious about fade after 20+washes.
Its the main reason why i stick with dtf, even though i agree with your comment about the feel, but its improving slowly.
Welcome back!
Lets go!
DTF is DTG essentially that's what people don't seem to know. It's the same inks and printing process, just swapping out pretreat for adhesive powder. So the longevity is the same
@@leestuart38 sorry man, i disagree. I've been doing dtf for almost 3 years now...the adhesive give a vinyl like feel but it increases the life of the ink. Im not claiming to be any expert, but that's what i found.
They are the same, yes, but different. dtf lasts longer because of the adhesive and the curing process.
Maybe you can try with your printer. Dtg vs dtf and see which one lasts longer at 20+ washes
I ran a converted Epson P600 for a few years (out of my bedroom closet) and got some amazing prints off it. The only issue is that consumer print heads just arent meant for long-term DTG use. As for pretreatment, I find that firebird pretreatment was money for the application window and pre-treatment box post-press.
Note, the poyl proint is essectially a Epson P600 or P800 from what I understand.
Also, I'd suggest good ventilation or wearing a mask when pretreating. Looking at the MSDS, you don't want to breathe this stuff during the curing process.
Good to see you, dude! I thought of you when TBDM announced the news a few days ago (or whenever the fuck it was. Time means nothing anymore).
I was so pumped for that!
You truly inspire me i wish i could start gathering my equipments sooner😭😭
That north of 9 print is still one of my favorites. Mind blowing when you screen printed it.
Look at all the weight loss 💪🏼
Keep it up dude
Thanks man! 30lbs down 🤘🏻
@@leestuart38 hell yeah dude 🤙🏼
Happy to have you back 🎉
👊🏻👊🏻
Ok 3rd time hopefully a charm writing down a comment.
Love the vid man, good to see a new video.
Ordered the shirt will be rocking it when i'm back in the Netherlands,
couldn't risk let it be shipped to where i am in the states.
Thanks for picking one up man!
I have the same setup. Make sure when not using the pre-treater you remove the nozzle heads. It will prevent crystallization in the head. Other than that it’s awesome machine.
Yup that's part of the daily maintenance routine
DTG definitely has it's place, and I am very intrigued by it. Awesome video as always, informative, visually pleasing, all the good stuff.
It's impressed me big time so far
GADDAMN DIDNT EVEN GET A FEW SECONDS IN THIS VIDEO IS CRISPY AS HELL ! BE BACK IN 24 MINUTES 30 SEC0NDS
Great vid as usual ! glad you back !
Thanks!
That Logo.....💙💙💙
So glad you got this machine! I’ve had it for a year and I look forward to your reviews. Looks like you found the same issues we had! We had to figure most of it out by ourselves.
Looking for a print machine for small business, is DTG better than Heating press?
@@gyb6562 it’s a lot more expensive- but I like the quality more. And recently we have been using the dtf feature on my poly print (no pretreatment needed)
Rad work bro... I just supported that effort and bought a shirt... keep rocking away bro... you inspire me always as a fellow influencer
Thanks a lot man!
Amazing Lee keep the DTG videos comming.
Lots more coming. Stoked to add this new dimension to the channel
@@leestuart38 I have a PolyPrint echo 2 also. I can't wait to follow your lead!!
That's really cool. Can't wait to see what other things you can do with the DTG machines. Very cool. Glad to see your back. It's probably an interesting story of why you've been MIA for the last little bit. :)
Your an absolute beast Lee, I love the content your an inspiration my friend keep it up
Thanks man
were planning on getting this exact setup! thanks for the video!! very informative
If you do it use my link to get some free supplies! They're great machines for me so far
6 minutes a print is wild
after a few months of use it takes longer. there is allot of things that start happening once the print heads get used up. i have had to go with 20min a print at times. no joke
@@georgedjmatrix4229 that’s crazy, my GTX is like 2 minutes for a full a3 size design 🫥
This machine was never supposed to compete with the GTX in speed. The print quality is the same, but its $10k cheaper than a GTX so I'd say the extra time is a fair trade lol. Their new machine coming out will go head to head with a GTX. Hopefully I'll get to test it in a video.
Welcome back . Bro! Looks like you’ve been working out .
Thanks! I have 😎
Oh snaps he's still alive!
Let's Go!!! Been waiting for this for a while!
Welcome back! Looks like you spent all your time away in the gym.
I've put in a bit of work in there 💪🏻
Sweet video and sweet Shadow of Intent shirt! Love those guys. Cheers!
Love shadow of intent 🤘🏻. Thanks man!
@@leestuart38 Absolutely my pleasure Lee! I work as a graphic designer in a silk screening/embroider/wide format... well Promo place and am in the process of taking over because the boss is retiring so your channel has been one of my go to channels for awhile. Greatly appreciate all the effort you put in. Thanks again Lee :)
Also., Lorna Shore fan?
Nice shop! NIce work! Nice vibe! Very motivating videos and inspiring. Thank You! :)
Cool to see you doing DTG too. I recommend using a steamer to erase the box. It works most of the time and you get the wrinkles out.
It does help I tried it off camera, but not very time effective. I have some tricks to try next time
@@leestuart38 Cool! I'll be watching your approach to it! Yes it' svery time consuming. My process too is to let the heat press hover over a pretreated shirt for like a min then press. Each color is different though. Sport greys, reds, carolina blues, charcoal are all so specific. In Gildans. Good luck man, you got this!
My job also requires me to using Dtg machine, sometimes for certain apparel(tetracotton,polo,hoodies,microfiber cotton blend) I just avoiding heatpress machine cause it sometimes make final results a bit dull and dye migration, I'm just using hovering heatpress, conveyor dryer.
Dryer would definitely be the way to go. This is a good starting point
Glad to see ya back. Im really curious how the maintenance and long term use is going to work out.
Maintenance is so easy with this machine, easiest in the field by far. Long term review will be interesting, I'm excited to see how it goes
Your equipment are amazing bro
🤘🤘
Hell yes!! I’ve been hanging for a new vid!
Finally 🙌🏻
ok bro so...Im a screen printer as well and I stick to it because it feel like its higher quality since it goes into the fabric. Does this feel like its high quality or mostly a part of the fabric?
So refreshing to see another video homie! What dtg equipment do you run for the printer and the pretreat? Good to have ya back man!
Everything is linked in the description to check it out. Thanks!
Welcome back.
Thanks man 👊🏻
I think that RIP is a version of KOTHARI, and it's super powerful! It's a heck of a RIP. Definitely the best. That's whats going to power your prints to its fullest.
It's actually Cadlink digital factory
Nice video drop man!, Top quality content and beyond human work ethic!! keep them coming hopefully closer together LOL
There won't be as long of a break between videos anymore haha. Thanks!
Dope video bro! I’m trying to make the switch now. These transfers aren’t cutting it anymore. 😎🙏🏽💯
I’ve hard that if you steam the shirt when it is complete that the pretreat box goes away.
What's the best printing technology to print face or picture of persons onto a T-shirt?
You can spray water on the pretreat box after your done curing the print and hover over it for 30-60 seconds. And pretreat box will go away a ton
I'll give that a try 👍🏻. Thanks
These companies need to spray within the outline of the designs for the pretreat that would be amazing
About that USB key, you should try debugging and check connectivity ports.
It was an invalid key
If the logo had the metallic look and it will look fire 🔥
Press, pretreat, hang for half hour, press for twice for 15 seconds (light to medium pressure) and you'll have no box.
Dope video brother! Thank you
can u update did u know how to get rid of box already ?
a few months ago I order like 72 DTG white t shirts and when they got hit by the sun, my t shirts turn yellow all around the area where the pre treatment was spray on. I lost all my shirts.
damn man, why did you just convince me to drop 15k 😭😭😭😭
thank you bro this was super informative as a lot of people coming into DTG have no idea what they're doing/ getting into
this video made it less scary 😭
Like you im tired of having to wait or deal with people, although the DTG shop I use is amazing, I want full quality control
copping soon!
Nothing beats putting your destiny in your own hands, starting a shop was the best risk I ever took. I'll be covering this topic a lot more so you'll know what to expect. If you decide to get one use my link in the description and you'll get some free inks and supplies!
@@leestuart38 you da man, will do 🙏🏽 excited for the new content!! 🙌🏽🖨
lmao good video bro it was funny
For the pretreatment box try hovering for 15 sec then press like at 300°F
I have that a try, didn't help. Hovering for a bit before pressing does help the curing side a lot though
I see, if you ever master it patent it jk. I work with image armor PT. Then press it medium high pressure. You hardly see the box. Someday gonna be as big you. Thank for you videos!
plz I need to know what are all the machines that he used in the vid
The image quality for making those shirts is bad ass. How are they holding up in the wash?
DTG prints will last the life of the shirt for the most part, but they will lose vibrancy after about 50-75 washes
i wish sublimation tech could do 100% cotton as well as they make prints on polyester containing fabrics, sublimation fuses so well to some fabrics that is even better than silk screen, and limitless when it comes to colors and img complexity.
Sublimation is extremely limited being compatible with white polyester only. Not a good way to make clothing unless you have a full cut and sew operation
Good morning, what program or application do you use to make these edits?
hello Lee, how is the Echo2 printer printing for you?
Pretty slick. Regarding color matching. I wonder if you build a 4color white and overprint onto that if you could match your screen better vs overprinting on whatever base white ink PolyPrint uses. And or, calibrate your screen to match their white. idk. Either way, they came out fantastic. Need to get into printing on substrates that aren't paper. -_-
Hey, I have a question. How do you do if you want to print in a sleeve?
There are different platens that go on the machine for sleeve printing
im always rounding up inches, just ask my gf hahahahaha fuuuuuck. Relatable content.
😂😂😂
There he is 😎
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so polyprint gave you the machines free for promo?
@leestuart38 how’s the Pretreater Pro been doing after all this time? I’m thinking about getting one…
Than you so much for your videos!
I haven't had it set up for some time now since I needed space for my new embroidery machine, but it worked really well the entire time I used it
always use DISTILLED water for cleaning nozzles/pipes in pretreatment machine
Also order stainless steel nozzles from teejet
Interesting the Pretreat looks like a modified Shultz with a better screen. Print looked good. Try that other pretreat FireBird see if box Is gone. Best result dryer but that would make another video lol
I've got some stuff to test for next time 😎
Lee when how do you feel about the conveyor dryer vs heat pressing to cure. I spoke to poly print once and they it works good and improves ink vibrancy. Also for the pre treat issue maybe pretreated shirt might work.
Awesome shirt! Is DTG the only way to go for true gradient prints on shirts?
“Round up inches, ask my gf” 😂😂😂
Glad someone caught that finally 😂
I always had a dream of doing this, But currently I'm broke..and I don't see this machine in my country
Good luck! This video gave me PTSD thinking about all the stresses I had with DTG!
DTG has come a long way in the past few years. They do require a lot of maintenance still but as long as the daily routine is followed it's been smooth sailing
watching this video reminded me of why we sold all our DTG equipment. Nonstop problems with pretreatment, washability, white ink clogging, customers not happy as the initial wash takes about 30% of the vivid coloring away. All and all a big loss overall. I wish you good luck though.
Been the opposite for me. Almost 800 shirts through it with zero issues, lots of happy customers and it's bringing in money
@@leestuart38 good to hear
Is that Shadow of Intent shirt DTG?
It's screen printed
So how would you print on sleeves or sweat pants
It has interchangeable platens. I'll be covering that in another video 👍🏻
I am looking to pick up a printer just not sure about which one to get.
The Polyprint is a great choice. I've been loving mine
Been waiting for you to drop a vid on this as I picked one of these up round about the time you announced you had one ha!! Good to see you uploading again. Love the printer took a while getting used to making sure the underbase was always bright etc - one thing I noticed is that you dont use a baking/release sheet during any of your process when pressing ( unless I missed that ) is that something that you were told not to use and just press the ink wet?
Hope you like your machine, loving mine so far! My sheets are stuck to my heat press with magnets to speed things up 👍🏻
@@leestuart38 I bloody love the machine - can get so much detail and colour out of it! Dude you are a genius that’s literally game changing 😂 the simple hacks make the best!!
Which is easier to maintain- dtf or dtg? I’m in the process of converting my Epson printer to dtf 😊
Awesome video dude. Interested to see the production costs vs screen printing.
I plan on covering that as well. I'm going to do a whole screen printing vs DTG series
@@leestuart38 nice really interested to see the series. Happy you are back with the videos. Missed the best printing content on TH-cam.