i feel like many scenes will be switching between a dream like musical and the cold reality, would definitely give a interesting insight to Arthur's mental state and how he wants to see the world
I get the feeling from the trailer that Arthur Fleck is trying to move away from his Joker persona and get rehabilitated but Harley is pushing him to embrace the madness.
What a great breakdown! Thanks so much for your attention to detail and cross-referencing with all the past information that has come out. You worked really hard on this and it shows. One thing I was wondering is how many scenes are the "shared madness" scenes, and if all shared madness will be obviously fantasy, or if some will seem like reality but will actually be only in their heads. For example, when Harleen says "Let's get outta here", I wonder if that leads into a scene where they don't leave the room, but they enter into a shared madness for the first time, and the music from the movie because the background soundtrack to their fantasy together. Maybe Harley whispers something like "imagine if we were somewhere else instead" and narrates a bit about where she would want to be, and maybe that is just running around Arkham freely and sneaking into places together, and then we see that come to life on screen. Then later the fantasy elements escalate, and become more obviously fantastical. How much will be up for debate as to what is real and what is not? An intriguing question.
Thank you Kaleirrion! Loved diving into this one. Felt the promise of the movie for a long time so it's great to see how the trailer delivered in a way I always felt that it could. So much to discuss (perhaps in a stream!) and I can't wait to see more :D
@@BobaTalks hi it seems Arthur tries to escape while at the court House but his captured again by Police there is a BTS where his on the stairs while Harley is singing and police arrive while he is in the same clothes and in the trailer they show us guards pulling him on the floor still in the same clothes ( it seems they plan a second escape when they put the prison on fire )
Been waiting for your thoughts on the trailer. Man this looks incredible. Joaquin looks he’s gonna do phenomenal just like the first movie and Lady Gaga looks spectacular as her own different take on Harley Quinn. Also Joaquin and Gaga have a very strong and undeniably romantic chemistry between them Jesus Christ. Great video dude!
I love that it is a musical. In the first movie, whenever he felt confident in himself, Arther would dance and sing. The idea of creating actual songs to express and show his thought process is so brilliant. The movie is like a dark, violent version of 'la la land'. It is magical and beautiful at the same time as being twisted and disturbing. I am so excited for this movie!!! 🃏🃏🃏
He didn’t even sing all of them, anytime a song began to play was always a scene where Arthur was enjoying himself, and giving into the Joker persona. The bathroom scene, the stairs, the police escort, the riots and the ending. So now that he has embraced the Joker persona, it makes sense for the sequel to be a full musical. All the haters can fight me.
I feel like this will be all about the bonding and break out , creating Harvey Dent , then lead into a Joker 3 being like a Bonnie and Clyde / Public Enemies with Dent leading the manhunt. I'm really interested in the other inmates that may be mentioned in the movie too. Everything looks and sounds amazing.
I think the different look of Arkham could just be that it's a big Hospital, and when transporting inmates to be interviewed by a psychologist or what have you, they get transported to a whole different wing in the Hospital. And the cells for inmates like Arthur (who could be being dragged into the hole) are kept in a separate part of the Hospital, away from visitors or certain staff members. Maybe even in the basement. And that very first shot of Arthur we see in the trailer, he almost looks excited. Like this could be his court appearance date, where him and Harley have already made plans to break him out? Maybe that's the day the explosions at the courthouse happen. But honestly....who fucking knows, lol. All I know is I think the movie looks fascinating and we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg. This was basically just a teaser, right? like, not a full blown trailer? It's hard to tell these days. I just love that we saw a lot of footage, but have no real idea as to the actual plot of the movie. Incredible breakdown as always! Soooooo hyped for this shit!!!
Brilliant trailer. The teaser with Arthur laughing/crying gave me the chills. I bet thats the ending. Harley dies, fleck is back at Arkham crying/laughing because hes all alone again.
Hmm interesting theory or if i good remember there was a scene from bts video's when Joker and Harley dancing on the stairs and then Police shows up and arresting Arthur not paying attetion at Harley Quinn so my theory is that Harley Quinn is only Joker imagination and then at the end of the movie he finally realised that and get's arrested to the Arkham Asylum again and that's why he's laughing and crying in that scene
I think it’ll end with Harley leaving him and he’s hit with the crushing realisation: whether it’s in his head or in the real world… a relationship with him can never be.
@@superbatusPLmate you're brilliant lol.. because I thought the same thing when I saw those behind the scenes.. Harley is singing and the cops do walk around her like she's not there, so I thought maybe Harley is just in Arthur's head👍🏻 it could be. I can't wait to see this film. I also thought way before, Harley was patient and they do hook up and escape. I really feel this film is going to be another masterpiece.
Sophie 😢, Harley is going to be more aggressive and violent than Arthur; that scares me a lot cause her victims usually are closest people to the related suspect
@@ERARoninyeah I feel like Harley will be the controlling one in her relationship with Joker and she’ll kill Sophie which causes Arthur to be pissed off at her only for her to sell him out
I actually had this theory that this story is about both Arthur and Harleen, and they don't ever actually meet until the very end of the movie where she does the lipstick on the glass... the Folie a Deux is that both are fantasizing about each other to cope with their miserable lives, but they never meet for long... they pass by each other when Arthur sees Harleen in that choir thing but that's about it until the end
This is very interesting. A lot of psychology going on with these characters. It seems like Harley pursues Arthur and he isn’t sure what to do with it? How he inspires people is def shown here
When he’s with Harley and happy, he’s dressed up, Gotham is bright vibrant clean and colorful. When he’s alone Gotham is dark gritty and he’s wearing dingy plain clothes. It’s narrated through his delusions again.
Also, speaking of the Fred Astere influence, there’s also audio on Reddit of what is assumed to be Joaquin and Gaga singing ‘A Couple Of Swells’ so that’s one song potentially confirmed.
@BobaTalks I wanted to hear your thoughts about a theory that could occur in the movie. What if we get introduced with Harley as a patient and we think throughout the movie that she is a patient but then the movie ends with him sitting in front of Harley as his psychiatrist showing that Arthur imagined her as a patient throughout the movie and that will cause him to start manipulate her. What do you think? Maybe it’s a reach.
What I wanna know Boba is how Harleen knew about the hand to the head like a gun thing? Right cus he only did that in front of Sophie. So maybe it’s that Sophie testifies in court on Arthur’s character and talks about how he imitated blowing his brains out to her and that’s how Harleen knew about that….hmmm
@chaseisringhausen4633 my theory about that its when Arthur starts to fantasize about Harleen,he just remember that from Sophie ( so in that scene Harleen is not real )
I absolutely can't wait to see scenes in the movie switching between joker and Harley doing stuff in a fake musical type scene, while it switches back to reality and they are actually doin some crazy shit
I think she is both part reality part fantasy!! Harley Quinn goes see him in real life while he is locked up and she is a psychologist who tries to free him cause she was part of the riot that happened at the end of the first movie and she became a fan while witnessing him through the media. And by going to visit him she gets in his head and he starts fantasizing about her and imagine her as a patient as well and therefore having a relationship with her while he is in Arkham. So both happening at the same time till we see both world(fantasy and real) becoming one at the end when they are finally united and free for real!!! Something like that.... And that's why when we hear her talk when she says "I'm nobody, I've haven't done anything with my life like you have" it is her talking to him the first time she goes see him when he is locked up and she is introducing herself and then she follows to say I wanna see the real you, and that's her psychologist background that makes her talk like that cause she can see him through the madness and she is falling head over heels for this guy because she relates to this "Folie" and hence the title Folie à Deux
Trailer was great, was hoping to find out what roles Jacob Loffland and Harry Lawtey have in the movie, heard some rumors of who Harry could be playing bujt not sure about Jacob though
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What a wonderful day! Feels good to be excited for a trailer again. I wonder how this will all go down in the movie. Will Arthur be as volatile in this as he was in the first one, or will Harley be the one to make all the big moves this time around?
Why do I get the feeling that Harley isn't even real? As if we're gonna get a screwed up twist in which Arthur's mind is so shattered that when he tries to remember his youth...... ....he mis-remembers his mother. Since his mother was blonde and allowed young Arthur to be abused by men, he could simpily be making up a female inmate similar to the younger version of his mentally unbalanced mother. Arthur might very well be compensating for all those lost years by imagining a fellow patient as a twisted coping mechanism. Just like Sophie's relationship in JOKER was just a figment of Arthur's imagination, so could Harley's existence! A current generation Arkham patient who looks similar to his mom, and just as violent as her boyfriends...❤
I'm very doubtful of this but this series almost feels like a play. First movie being the first act, second movie being the over the top middle part, and the third if it happens the possible climax or resolution to this story. He embraced being who he is, not he found love, all he needs is a true adversary.
One thing I keep thinking about watching this trailer and breakdown of it its interesting how they doing Harley and keeping it ambitious about is she a doctor or not probably wrong but one thing I'm thinking that's interesting is maybe it'll pick up right where we left off or do flashback of the mob from Harleys pov and maybe see there the cops getting through arresting Arthur maybe others and well skip ahead a bit where he's already been in hospital for a bit and Harley be there here and there maybe works there maybe not as doctor who knows but she's there at times maybe trying to help herself maybe she's a volunteer and trying to recover from this huge moment in her life that's over now she part of mob probably and now its seemingly over and Arthur is gone but she's obsessed reading everything about him maybe get his files somehow follows his steps maybe even bought his apartment so she's living where he use to live anything she can to be close to him he was probably in jail for a bit but they took him to the hospital to wait for trial and that's when they actually see each other in the flesh she's seen videos of him up to this point seen him at a distance but he hasn't seen her and seeing her he can see himself just like she's attracted to him cause she sees herself in him they're like mirrors of each other
Boba amazing breakdown i absolutly love this trailer and i think that all the events that takes place outside of Arkham Asylum are in Arthur's head ( along with the Harley ) and that's why he's crying in that short scene wich i think will be at the end of the movie or he just really escaped but get's arrested at the scene wich we saw from behind the scenes when Arthur and Harley dancing on the stairs and only Arthur get's arrested when the cops didn't even pay attetion to Harley wich i think is another proof that Harley might be in Arthur head just like Sophey
I must admit when I heard Joker 2 was going to be a musical I had my doubts as I dislike the genre especially musical episodes. But this trailer did surprise me and i am looking forward to it
The trailer looked better than I thought it was gonna be, but I don't know if it shatters all of my concerns until I see the actual movie... which I still planned to anyways because the first Joker was so good, but the trailer helped boost confidence a bit more... still don't like the idea of it being a Musical because I am not into those generally... hallucination sequence or not, if it gets to be a bit much, it may take me out of the movie... but I want to like this movie because when it comes to DC lately, it needs all the wins it can get
Because of how good Joker 1 was I am very excited to see Joker 2: Folie a Deux! I have no concerns other than it being a musical... I HATEEEE musicals however I am willing to watch it anyways due to the two being so crazy, the songs might fit the storyline and hopefully the amount of songs wont be annoying or breaks away from the scenes. But overall I am very excited!
Honestly im kinda digging this movie more than the first, the first one was fine but derivitive of a few other movies, this ones like a messed up lalaland and looks great!!!
*With Steve Coogan’s character* I think this movie is about the romanticism of people with mental illness and obsession with serial killers.. seems like people may “love” the idea of Joker and Harley.
Can’t wait until they finally reveal that Joker and The Batman are the same universe and that’s why Arkham looks how it does now, as well a myriad of other reasons I can think of. The cast for the Batman being very hidden is one clue.
Do you think there’s a possibility that Arthur is forcing Harley to do his dirty work and is abusive like he is in other media? But the differing points of view make it seem like they’re in love?
It looks like harley quinn is the one corrupting joker this time around, it seems he lost his way and everyone cooped his actions and she makes him find his real self which is a psycho killer. I dont know if she is real or not or betrays him but the movie is supposed to be a love story. I wouldnt be surprised if she is manipulating him
Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn: "I haven't done anything with my life like you have"
Wonder if their Kid is gonna be the Main Joker for this Universes Batman
@@therealmr.incredible3179 See, THAT would make sense!
@@therealmr.incredible3179 this again??? The Jokerverse IS NOT the Reeves' Batverse, and none of them are in the DCU.
@@claudiabcarvalho Read my comment again smooth butter brain
@@claudiabcarvalhoThey literally said “the main joker for this universes batman” referring to this universes Bruce Wayne…
i feel like many scenes will be switching between a dream like musical and the cold reality, would definitely give a interesting insight to Arthur's mental state and how he wants to see the world
Whoever came up with the joker window lipstick shot deserve a raise.
It's really not that clever. Why is everybody so impressed with that?
@@JB-1138 I believe it’s the execution more so than the cleverness. It is a pretty dope shot
@@JB-1138 that would've been so corny 😂
@@JB-1138hell naw lmao
bro what?
I get the feeling from the trailer that Arthur Fleck is trying to move away from his Joker persona and get rehabilitated but Harley is pushing him to embrace the madness.
oh i get your point
That’s what I believe too that Harley will actually be the villain in this movie
What a great breakdown! Thanks so much for your attention to detail and cross-referencing with all the past information that has come out. You worked really hard on this and it shows.
One thing I was wondering is how many scenes are the "shared madness" scenes, and if all shared madness will be obviously fantasy, or if some will seem like reality but will actually be only in their heads. For example, when Harleen says "Let's get outta here", I wonder if that leads into a scene where they don't leave the room, but they enter into a shared madness for the first time, and the music from the movie because the background soundtrack to their fantasy together. Maybe Harley whispers something like "imagine if we were somewhere else instead" and narrates a bit about where she would want to be, and maybe that is just running around Arkham freely and sneaking into places together, and then we see that come to life on screen. Then later the fantasy elements escalate, and become more obviously fantastical.
How much will be up for debate as to what is real and what is not? An intriguing question.
Thank you Kaleirrion! Loved diving into this one. Felt the promise of the movie for a long time so it's great to see how the trailer delivered in a way I always felt that it could. So much to discuss (perhaps in a stream!) and I can't wait to see more :D
@@BobaTalks hi it seems Arthur tries to escape while at the court House but his captured again by Police there is a BTS where his on the stairs while Harley is singing and police arrive while he is in the same clothes and in the trailer they show us guards pulling him on the floor still in the same clothes ( it seems they plan a second escape when they put the prison on fire )
that guy next to Gary was the guy on the couch on Arthur's Murray Franklin appearance
Didn't he laughed when Murray told him "And you had to look that up?"
Arthur gave him a stare in response to the guy's chuckle
That last scene is so fresh
Yes! Been looking forward to your video on this, I loved this trailer so much, I can't wait for the movie
Been waiting for your thoughts on the trailer. Man this looks incredible. Joaquin looks he’s gonna do phenomenal just like the first movie and Lady Gaga looks spectacular as her own different take on Harley Quinn. Also Joaquin and Gaga have a very strong and undeniably romantic chemistry between them Jesus Christ. Great video dude!
I love that it is a musical. In the first movie, whenever he felt confident in himself, Arther would dance and sing. The idea of creating actual songs to express and show his thought process is so brilliant. The movie is like a dark, violent version of 'la la land'. It is magical and beautiful at the same time as being twisted and disturbing. I am so excited for this movie!!! 🃏🃏🃏
He didn’t even sing all of them, anytime a song began to play was always a scene where Arthur was enjoying himself, and giving into the Joker persona. The bathroom scene, the stairs, the police escort, the riots and the ending. So now that he has embraced the Joker persona, it makes sense for the sequel to be a full musical. All the haters can fight me.
@@Alocalhuman 👍
I love Gaga's red jacket look
14:23 I just noticed Arthur has a wedding band, so maybe they did tie the knot?
I have been so waiting for this.
Lady Gaga’s HQ : “ I wanna see the real you. You’re everything they say they are, you’re the Joker”
the trailer is finally out at last!now waiting until October for the context of this movie is gonna be insane 😅
The final scene looks like it was inspired by the 'Why So Serious?' promotional posters used for Nolan's Dark Knight.
Nice one mate 👍🏻 you're right
It's about time. I was wondering when you were going to drop this review. Really great trailer. Excited for this movie more now.
Been waiting all day for your video on this 😭
Gaga looks amazing as Harley for this iteration of Joker. She has the edge and charisma that matches Joaquin Pheonix and the rough environment.
Agreed and she obviously took a lot of acting tips from Joaquin as they were working together
Honestly it looks so hype. I have a feeling it might not be as grim as the first one, but I gotta a feeling it’s gonna be waaay more fun xD
been focused on my TH-cam so much. i forgot all about boba! but as soon as this trailer dropped! i came to you! missed ya bro! great vid!
Great insights, loved the trailer and can't wait to see it in full
Been waiting all day for this review! Let's go!
Loving it and can't wait for more... and I'm sure we're gonna have a lot of folks jumping on board after that
Great take,!!
I wonder if at any moment in the movie they’ll show Arthur being angry or mean to Harleen, sort of eluding to the source material of the iconic couple
For real Boba, as someone who speaks French, among all the TH-camrs who cover this, you pronounce the title really well
Was waiting for this. ❤
been waiting for this! ♦️
I feel like this will be all about the bonding and break out , creating Harvey Dent , then lead into a Joker 3 being like a Bonnie and Clyde / Public Enemies with Dent leading the manhunt. I'm really interested in the other inmates that may be mentioned in the movie too. Everything looks and sounds amazing.
I think the different look of Arkham could just be that it's a big Hospital, and when transporting inmates to be interviewed by a psychologist or what have you, they get transported to a whole different wing in the Hospital. And the cells for inmates like Arthur (who could be being dragged into the hole) are kept in a separate part of the Hospital, away from visitors or certain staff members. Maybe even in the basement.
And that very first shot of Arthur we see in the trailer, he almost looks excited. Like this could be his court appearance date, where him and Harley have already made plans to break him out?
Maybe that's the day the explosions at the courthouse happen. But honestly....who fucking knows, lol. All I know is I think the movie looks fascinating and we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg. This was basically just a teaser, right? like, not a full blown trailer? It's hard to tell these days. I just love that we saw a lot of footage, but have no real idea as to the actual plot of the movie.
Incredible breakdown as always! Soooooo hyped for this shit!!!
Arthur’s life started as a tragedy, then a comedy. In this film, I believe it will be a romance, that will end in tragedy
Brilliant trailer. The teaser with Arthur laughing/crying gave me the chills. I bet thats the ending. Harley dies, fleck is back at Arkham crying/laughing because hes all alone again.
Hmm interesting theory or if i good remember there was a scene from bts video's when Joker and Harley dancing on the stairs and then Police shows up and arresting Arthur not paying attetion at Harley Quinn so my theory is that Harley Quinn is only Joker imagination and then at the end of the movie he finally realised that and get's arrested to the Arkham Asylum again and that's why he's laughing and crying in that scene
I think it’ll end with Harley leaving him and he’s hit with the crushing realisation: whether it’s in his head or in the real world… a relationship with him can never be.
@@firstlast9846 True
@@superbatusPLmate you're brilliant lol.. because I thought the same thing when I saw those behind the scenes.. Harley is singing and the cops do walk around her like she's not there, so I thought maybe Harley is just in Arthur's head👍🏻 it could be. I can't wait to see this film. I also thought way before, Harley was patient and they do hook up and escape. I really feel this film is going to be another masterpiece.
@@firstlast9846nice one mate 👍🏻
I feel like Harleen will kill Arthur’s previous girlfriend in the last movie (I always forget her name!)
Sophie 😢, Harley is going to be more aggressive and violent than Arthur; that scares me a lot cause her victims usually are closest people to the related suspect
She wasn't his girlfriend though, he just fantasised that she was.
@@ERARoninyeah I feel like Harley will be the controlling one in her relationship with Joker and she’ll kill Sophie which causes Arthur to be pissed off at her only for her to sell him out
Sophia was her name
Man I’m so down for this.i love the deeper dive into how he became who he is now.
I actually had this theory that this story is about both Arthur and Harleen, and they don't ever actually meet until the very end of the movie where she does the lipstick on the glass... the Folie a Deux is that both are fantasizing about each other to cope with their miserable lives, but they never meet for long... they pass by each other when Arthur sees Harleen in that choir thing but that's about it until the end
It makes me wonder if harley will be the one controlling joker like a flipped version of previous iterations.
That’s what I believe too
Funny how Joker was being dragged on the floor and laughing. Great breakdown, Boba.
Joker’s White Suit is a Reference to TDKR Joker
I say so in the video :)
@@BobaTalks You think Bruce’s gonna be in this one?
Stellar video!
This is exactly what I thought it'd be and I can't wait
This is very interesting. A lot of psychology going on with these characters. It seems like Harley pursues Arthur and he isn’t sure what to do with it? How he inspires people is def shown here
When he’s with Harley and happy, he’s dressed up, Gotham is bright vibrant clean and colorful. When he’s alone Gotham is dark gritty and he’s wearing dingy plain clothes. It’s narrated through his delusions again.
Also, speaking of the Fred Astere influence, there’s also audio on Reddit of what is assumed to be Joaquin and Gaga singing ‘A Couple Of Swells’ so that’s one song potentially confirmed.
@BobaTalks I wanted to hear your thoughts about a theory that could occur in the movie. What if we get introduced with Harley as a patient and we think throughout the movie that she is a patient but then the movie ends with him sitting in front of Harley as his psychiatrist showing that Arthur imagined her as a patient throughout the movie and that will cause him to start manipulate her. What do you think? Maybe it’s a reach.
it is as well good
Love your perspective on this movie and your thoughts in general also in other areas of interests in terms of geekdom.
It’ll be coool to get TwoFace 😎
What I wanna know Boba is how Harleen knew about the hand to the head like a gun thing? Right cus he only did that in front of Sophie. So maybe it’s that Sophie testifies in court on Arthur’s character and talks about how he imitated blowing his brains out to her and that’s how Harleen knew about that….hmmm
Could be as Sophie is in this movie, so that's plausible.
@chaseisringhausen4633
my theory about that its when Arthur starts to fantasize about Harleen,he just remember that from Sophie ( so in that scene Harleen is not real )
I absolutely can't wait to see scenes in the movie switching between joker and Harley doing stuff in a fake musical type scene, while it switches back to reality and they are actually doin some crazy shit
I'm thinking that scenes of Harley and Arthur doing big musical numbers are going to be moments of psychosis like we got in the first film.
i think so as well
Brendan Gleeson is one of the Arkham guards. Don’t think you mentioned that.
I hope the toxic abusive aspects are cut down
Awesomeness 👌 👏
I think she is both part reality part fantasy!! Harley Quinn goes see him in real life while he is locked up and she is a psychologist who tries to free him cause she was part of the riot that happened at the end of the first movie and she became a fan while witnessing him through the media. And by going to visit him she gets in his head and he starts fantasizing about her and imagine her as a patient as well and therefore having a relationship with her while he is in Arkham. So both happening at the same time till we see both world(fantasy and real) becoming one at the end when they are finally united and free for real!!! Something like that....
And that's why when we hear her talk when she says "I'm nobody, I've haven't done anything with my life like you have" it is her talking to him the first time she goes see him when he is locked up and she is introducing herself and then she follows to say I wanna see the real you, and that's her psychologist background that makes her talk like that cause she can see him through the madness and she is falling head over heels for this guy because she relates to this "Folie" and hence the title Folie à Deux
Was hoping you would do a live stream reaction 🤨
"i wanna see the real you"
The last scence
Seems like a role reversal in this version of the Joker, Harley being the toxic one.
The trailer was cinema🔥
I’m so excited 🎉
14:23 I just noticed Arthur has a wedding band on, so maybe they did tie the knot?
Trailer was great, was hoping to find out what roles Jacob Loffland and Harry Lawtey have in the movie, heard some rumors of who Harry could be playing bujt not sure about Jacob though
Lady gaga is coming for that oscars her ,and Joaquin will be fantastic in this movie!
Joaquin Phoenix ❤❤❤
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What a wonderful day! Feels good to be excited for a trailer again. I wonder how this will all go down in the movie. Will Arthur be as volatile in this as he was in the first one, or will Harley be the one to make all the big moves this time around?
Why do I get the feeling that Harley isn't even real? As if we're gonna get a screwed up twist in which Arthur's mind is so shattered that when he tries to remember his youth......
....he mis-remembers his mother. Since his mother was blonde and allowed young Arthur to be abused by men, he could simpily be making up a female inmate similar to the younger version of his mentally unbalanced mother. Arthur might very well be compensating for all those lost years by imagining a fellow patient as a twisted coping mechanism. Just like Sophie's relationship in JOKER was just a figment of Arthur's imagination, so could Harley's existence! A current generation Arkham patient who looks similar to his mom, and just as violent as her boyfriends...❤
I think the singing will be good. Obviously we know Lady Gaga can sing, but Phoenix did play John Cash, so he has a decent voice
I'm very doubtful of this but this series almost feels like a play. First movie being the first act, second movie being the over the top middle part, and the third if it happens the possible climax or resolution to this story. He embraced being who he is, not he found love, all he needs is a true adversary.
hi mind you its not true love,its going to be interesting
I wonder if Lady Gaga make a song for this movie?
One thing I keep thinking about watching this trailer and breakdown of it its interesting how they doing Harley and keeping it ambitious about is she a doctor or not probably wrong but one thing I'm thinking that's interesting is maybe it'll pick up right where we left off or do flashback of the mob from Harleys pov and maybe see there the cops getting through arresting Arthur maybe others and well skip ahead a bit where he's already been in hospital for a bit and Harley be there here and there maybe works there maybe not as doctor who knows but she's there at times maybe trying to help herself maybe she's a volunteer and trying to recover from this huge moment in her life that's over now she part of mob probably and now its seemingly over and Arthur is gone but she's obsessed reading everything about him maybe get his files somehow follows his steps maybe even bought his apartment so she's living where he use to live anything she can to be close to him he was probably in jail for a bit but they took him to the hospital to wait for trial and that's when they actually see each other in the flesh she's seen videos of him up to this point seen him at a distance but he hasn't seen her and seeing her he can see himself just like she's attracted to him cause she sees herself in him they're like mirrors of each other
This looks so good i usually can take or leave a musical if that’s what this is but either way I need to see this
Boba amazing breakdown i absolutly love this trailer and i think that all the events that takes place outside of Arkham Asylum are in Arthur's head ( along with the Harley ) and that's why he's crying in that short scene wich i think will be at the end of the movie or he just really escaped but get's arrested at the scene wich we saw from behind the scenes when Arthur and Harley dancing on the stairs and only Arthur get's arrested when the cops didn't even pay attetion to Harley wich i think is another proof that Harley might be in Arthur head just like Sophey
Could Steve Coogan be Harvey Dent?
@jonnymelamet8029
may be he is Harvey Dent
OMGGG I can’t wait to see this movie!!!
I want to see the movie now.
I must admit when I heard Joker 2 was going to be a musical I had my doubts as I dislike the genre especially musical episodes. But this trailer did surprise me and i am looking forward to it
The trailer looked better than I thought it was gonna be, but I don't know if it shatters all of my concerns until I see the actual movie... which I still planned to anyways because the first Joker was so good, but the trailer helped boost confidence a bit more... still don't like the idea of it being a Musical because I am not into those generally... hallucination sequence or not, if it gets to be a bit much, it may take me out of the movie... but I want to like this movie because when it comes to DC lately, it needs all the wins it can get
It's gonna be great
I'm not changing my mind I wanted a sequel this just confirmed what I knew before this is gonna be awesome!
Because of how good Joker 1 was I am very excited to see Joker 2: Folie a Deux! I have no concerns other than it being a musical... I HATEEEE musicals however I am willing to watch it anyways due to the two being so crazy, the songs might fit the storyline and hopefully the amount of songs wont be annoying or breaks away from the scenes. But overall I am very excited!
Honestly im kinda digging this movie more than the first, the first one was fine but derivitive of a few other movies, this ones like a messed up lalaland and looks great!!!
Your literally the first one I hear talking about this. We dont whats real are not compared to the first movie 💯
No but you totally called that “The Switch” was going to happen as soon as that first trailer dropped. 😏 Here’s to being spot on! 🥂
Interested to see where Zazie Beetz fits in. Maybe in Arthur’s head she and Harley go head to head?…
what if garry is a version of gaggy jokers orginal sidekick
*With Steve Coogan’s character* I think this movie is about the romanticism of people with mental illness and obsession with serial killers.. seems like people may “love” the idea of Joker and Harley.
The lipstick smile scene is great but just seems like they are copying the WHY SO SERIOUS joker poster from the Dark Knight, way back in 2008.
did yall think the first joker movie was weird? well this one is going to be 1000% weirder 😂😂😂
Joker 2 is a villain movie like the first one?
Yes a Villain movie like the first one
Why wouldn't it be?
What if she got herself voluntarily into Arkham to be near Arthur after obsessing with him for what he caused in the first movie?
Can’t wait until they finally reveal that Joker and The Batman are the same universe and that’s why Arkham looks how it does now, as well a myriad of other reasons I can think of. The cast for the Batman being very hidden is one clue.
What if that shot of Joker attacking someone with a chair is Harvey Dent? And that’s how he becomes Two Face? Keep in mind I’m only like 2 mins in.
Do you think there’s a possibility that Arthur is forcing Harley to do his dirty work and is abusive like he is in other media? But the differing points of view make it seem like they’re in love?
it might be so
It looks good bit the whole dreamy stuff kind of felt off to me
Don’t forget that trailers aren’t in chronological order.
Of course!
My Friends I think I saw a Joker Follow-up To Arther Fleck Maybe
Have you ever danced with the Devil by the Pale Moonlight?
I hope we see more of young Bruce Wayne and maybe see Wayne enterprises
Boba what is your favorite Johnny Cash song?
It looks like harley quinn is the one corrupting joker this time around, it seems he lost his way and everyone cooped his actions and she makes him find his real self which is a psycho killer. I dont know if she is real or not or betrays him but the movie is supposed to be a love story. I wouldnt be surprised if she is manipulating him
@Ytomany you might be true
I have a theory she’s being planted to Arkham to get close with Arthur etc