Hell Let Loose VS Post Scriptum | Which is BEST?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- You may have the news about Post Scriptum, the ultra realistic world war 2 milsim is back after being bought by the developers of Squad - Offworld Industries, and since then the population of Post Scriptum has started increasing again after a rather difficult year after all the staff were suddenly and unceremoniously let go back at the start of the year.
But as a gamer, I don’t really care about all the backroom politics and drama involved in game development, all I care about is whether or not a game is good, so I’m not gonna get into any of that other stuff here, instead I want to talk about the one thing that really matters - What are the biggest differences between Post Scriptum and it’s nearest competitor - Hell Let Loose - and even more importantly, which one is best for you?
Well in my last Hell Let Loose vs Post Scriptum comparison video I talked about the more commonly known stuff, the fact that Post Scriptum’s audio and visual effects are on another level compared to Hell Let Loose, not that that stuff in Hell Let Loose is bad by any means but it doesn’t hold a candle to what I’ve seen in Post Scriptum, and how the map design in Hell Let Loose is historically accurate and based on real reconnaissance photos from the era where Post Scriptum’s map design is fictional, and that video’s still up on the channel if you want to watch that too, but in this video I wanna get into the finer details, the small stuff that make a big difference.
On the surface both games seem pretty similar - Both are realistic squad based first person shooters set on large, open maps, where infantry, artillery and tank crews coordinate their efforts to capture designated control points around the map, while trying to annihilate the enemy team.
Both games have a suppression system, as well as weapon sway and recoil, they both have drivable tanks that require proper communication between the crew members to function properly, and you’ll die quite easily in either game thanks to the brutally punishing weapon damage, which means whichever game you’re playing, getting shot in the chest by an M1 garand can’t be fixed by just putting a bandage around it and carrying on your merry way, you’re gonna need a medic.
So they have a lot in common, however both games take a very different approach to game design, and even if some of those differences seem quite subtle, they do have a big impact on how each game plays out.
Let’s take the stamina system for example - In Hell Let Loose, if you want to sprint from one side of the map to the other, you just hold down the sprint key and off you go, eventually you’ll get to the edge of the map and that’s that, job done, because Hell Let Loose has no stamina system. You could sprint for a thousand miles and still have pinpoint aim when you bring up your sights.
In Post Scriptum there’s a stamina bar you need to manage, so you occasionally have to stop to drink from your canteen to increase your stamina regen, and your accuracy when aiming down sights gets severely impacted after sprinting to simulate your character being out of breath, so in post scripting if you’re planning on sprinting across a massive open field straight into an enemy occupied building ready to kick ass and take names, you usually die a swift, hero-less death.
In Hell Let Loose though that’s a pretty viable tactic since, providing you don’t get shot on the way, there’s no other mechanics at play that you need to think about before charging in and opening fire. Your weapon accuracy is just as good after a 2 hour sprint as it is from a resting position.
While we’re already on the topic of weapons by the way, in Hell Let Loose, with exception to El Alamein, you’re basically able to use any weapon from your faction on any map as long as the role isn’t already taken in your squad, regardless of how historically accurate it may or may not be. - เกม
It's kinda wild that we've gotten so fucking nerdy that a game like hell let loose is considered casual
Hell Let Loose maps are built for fucking siphoning bodies into 1 or 2 points where you can attack from. Especially in the fucking western front
real.
Lmao so true
Games used to be fun but now it's all about the sweat, the money and the grind!
No Its just how it is
People keep saying PS has "fictional" maps, but my understanding is that their maps are based on aerial and street photos with normal changes for video game balance where necessary? Is this not true? Google search seems to suggest it.
Yeah tbh I think you're right 🥴
I think the best descriptions is, Hell Let Loose is a casual gamers introduction to milsim gaming, while Post Scriptum/Squad 44 is a Milsim gamers introduction to casual gaming
What I’ve noticed about both games because i play both is that HLL just has a bigger community backing it! The leveling up actually makes you want to come back to the game, unfortunately theres no leveling in post/squad 44, which makes you feel like, “why should i keep playing”? I really like swuad but somethings just missing and you never get be chaotic situations like HLL, love the sounds in post/squad44 but dont know why HLL is just what i like more
I will never get this argument. Older games especially shooters never had any leveling up until cod4+ made it popular and everyone was fine with it. Do you play the game for the game itself or for the artificial rewarding system? Im all for fairness and making games that are enjoyable by themselves.
@@smokejumper749leveling and progression greatly increases the longevity of a game especially in todays gaming climate. It may have been ok to have a game with no level progression 20 years ago, but that’s not the standard today when the market is so big.
@@sillythygoose I totally agree!
@@smokejumper749 the way hell let loose does it doesn’t make it unfair though in my opinion you can use almost every gun except the flamethrower and mg42 which you gotta grind for with support which makes people want to play the roll like they should to help there tram and with the mg34 to get the mg42, and the mg34 is still an amazing mg, i get cod is wack i agree with you there, one gun gets a boost and boom its the best in the game and everyone uses it, super wack, i dont want that in any game anymore
LOOOOOOL why should you keep playing an FPS that doesn't have a level up system.... WHAT the hell? do you come from MARS or something?
For the algorithm! Keep up the good work!
I wish post scriptum was on xbox and PS
As somebody that has more than 500 hours on HLL, I can tell you that once you play Post Scriptum ( Squad 44) and get used to it, it's hard to go back to HLL. Once the Devs finish updating all the maps, Post Scriptum ( Squad 44) is going to get really popular. 💯
4:11 Also Driel. The new Tommy guns aren’t available to use on it.
I've noticed the community is bigger on HLL because it's on PC and console . Sqaud 44 is just PC. With that said, I'm buying squad 44. I'm hoping to pick it up quickly and become a SL one day
Also which one has a better vault/mantling system? I have to double click space almost every time I’m trying to vault something in hell let loose
Imo post scriptum fells way less "on rails" generally if that makes sense not only regarding the movement but also the gunplay.
I find holding the jump button as I try to vault instead of multiple presses works way better. Vaulting is still wonky af but this helped me.
I agree with everything but gunplay? I thought HLL gunplay is bad with minimal weapon sway, unrealistic sights, unrealistic bullet drop, unrealistic damage etc.. Many that have disagreed with some of points you made has said also gunplay in PS is excellent. You will have field day with bolt actions.
Yeah, it's just the 'jankiness' I don't like in Post Scriptum, I feel the same about Squad. The guns feel floaty and like they're trying too hard to be realistic while forgetting to be fun.
My favorite in HLL is how there is no head bob. Like sprinting with a pack and rifle you'd be able to keep your head still like you're rolling on a 3 axis gimbal.
I have them both, 2 different games and honestly i find myself going back to HLL
Beautiful maps (less so now that they don’t mirror the actual locations as much) with horrible meta and questionable gunplay vs. cursed maps but good gunplay and gameplay, I would say post scriptum for the win as it has more potential. HLL also has poor historical accuracy regarding uniforms now.
Wtf has uniforms got to do with any of that?😂 they screwed up once with the winter m41 uniform.
A Post Scriptum airborne insertion for Hell Let Loose would be nice
Post scriptum can have 80 players and still feel like theres only 8 other players online, hell let loose funnels players into more action pack engagements making it feel more as though there is a ongoing pivotal battle with 2 armies.
Ive also felt like that when i started playing but when you start to "get it" you mostly have plenty of enemies to shoot.
Yeah that’s how I feel. HLL is two big armies pushing against eachother and PS is a map with multiple different skirmishes going on around it.
"Having no resources doesn't really impact the outcome of a match." Something tells me you haven't played the commander role a whole lot, don't know how many times I lost the mid point because I didn't have the resources to reinforce or call in a bombing run or get an airhead since all spawns are down. Also, having no man power increases the spawn timer and you cant use reinforce, that can make all the difference when defending a point. By glossing over the importance of the commander role, you ignore the biggest aspect of HLL, its logistics.
HLL has the better atmosphere on maps but yhats about it. Ps has better sound, gunplay, and teamwork. I always founf it funny when people compared HLL as squad but ww2 when ps was literally a mod to squad tk start with.
I have both but I believe both games can become even better if they put more time and effort into it they have the potential I also love the realism and the all out war chaos can’t go wrong with both games but because squad 44 cheaper than he’ll let loose I would say if you have a pc pickup that 1 first
I played quite a bit of HLL but moved away from it for other games. When interest in PS picked up again, i thought I would check it out. I just cant get into it. HLL was hard when I first started but i was still having fun and enjoying it even though I sucked at it. PS just doesn't feel fun to me. I'm going to wait and see what OWI do now they have it, and try again. I like squad, so i'm not sure why PS isn't doing it for me - maybe i'll come around.
Which one is better optimized
Played all the time HLL and love the game, now I have tried S44 and it is not stabil, all the time freezes and crashes! Hope they get this fixed soon! For example I can’t play the new Greece map! Game always freezes in loading screen! Absolutely annoying! 😡😠😤 never had such the same with HLL
HLL and PS are both great games with different pros and cons, personally I’m preferring HLL atm as one big con for PS is the slow run across a huge map while having to stop and drink water to regain stamina which is annoying as hell, plus the empty player base
All these youtube videos keep talking about the playerbase being revived, yeah and I'm the Pope. The game is still dead, with an average population of barely even 1,000 players everyday. Whereas Hell Let Loose reaches 7,000 24-hour player peaks with ease. Wish I could refund "Squad 44" but it's too late now. :/
trust it’s turning, theres now more full lobbies available and it looks like its inly gowing up
four weeks on and the playerbase has plateaued but if you live in the US then you usually have two or more full servers at peak times, sometimes they're full into midnight PST (which is like 3 AM EST)
Personally I think the stamina mechanic, especially the canteen, is super annoying.
I like both, it just depends on your perview. But Post Scriptum does have a lot more vehicles and more realism.
I really want em both tbh but I only can really get one so I'm stuck trying to decide, i like arma 3 armor combat in ps seems way better, but idk
Be sure to check prices on G2A if you're on a tight budget (they sell steam keys), you might be able to get both on there much cheaper. Worth mentioning that you don't get the Steam 14 day refund period when buying through 3rd party key resellers though.
If you like Arma 3 and want something similar, I'd go with Post Scriptum (Squad 44), but if you're looking to mix it up and play something more cinematic/arcadey, closer to Battlefield but with more advanced features and punishing combat, then Hell Let Loose. You can't really go wrong with either choice tbh, they're both great, but Post Scriptum (Squad 44) has more to offer imo.
Is Squad 44 on xbox? If not the only option is HLL
No, S44 is PC only I'm afraid.
The guys from Post Scriptum need to do the Russian front.
I play Post Scriptum with every single graphics option disabled or on minimum. Because it gets really hard to see anyone with everything on.
There's a lot of things I like about PS better but, one small but not small thing... There don't seem to always be a very conveniently placed grouping of hedgerows everywhere.
Absolutely spot on about everything RCV! My only comment about the armor in PS though, I think they are just too fast now, if they would limit the actual tanks, the Shermans and the Pz4's, the King Tiger and Panther and the British armor to 2nd or 3rd gear at most, that would be better IMHO, but they all zip around like the Pumas and the Daimlers which isn't really realistic.
I think that's because of what they tried to archive. One mechanic they didn't manage to archive is terrain effect on vehicles, like driving on grass be different from driving on concrete. So now every vehicle drives like you are on concrete
Sorry for the late reply, Chris, but after a match today I actually see what you mean after witnessing a panzer IV fly passed our transport truck, get some sick air over a jump and proceed to bounce hard and flip over on its roof doing about 100kph lol
Post Scriptum is WW2 Squad
I think we can all agree, they are both great games for diffrent reasons. Just depends on what you feel like playing at the moment, Usually I prefer HLL mostly because the issue they both face, and that is poor comms, but PS is much more affected by it than HLL
But matches with great comms are amazing in both titles
We cannot agree, as per internet rule 28 paragraph 1, line 3. "We must never agree, we must remain angry, we must demand source".
I have PS but newer really played it at much, as I used to play mostly with friends and PS is too hardcore for them. I have played 208 hours of HLL and I also love it.
But I think that you have missed one of the selling points about PS at least to me. And that is that you can go into every building. Which means that the enemy can be in every window. And that makes your decisions and movement more intense. Whereas in HLL the town battles feel more lane-ish.
By the way. You probably don´t remember me, and I don´t blame you. But you made a video about Operation Harsh Doorstop and read my comment. So maybe it's almost about to revisit the game. I know there is a big update on the 21th If I remember correctly. Soon the year has past ;)
Ive just been playing BFV and I absolutely slap at the game. Really mastered every class with sniping my favourite. These seem way more hardcore but look pretty fun. Thinking of getting HLL since its on xbox and I only play console. So PS I couldn't play.
I personally beli3ve HLL is better ONLY because of the rank system and not so many A holes.. maps in HLL way better. The houses are better as well.
El alamein only has weapons available from that time period
In hll
PS is WAY too sweaty for me. As a former Royal Artillery RSM it makes me absolutely cringe being forced to use a mic and hearing civvies try barking orders at each other. I know HLL also has this, but it's far more accessible and "fun" than Post Scriptum is. Most of the games I've joined in PS have squads forcing you into their discord and raging at new players for having the wrong kit.
man i dont know what servers you're on but I've never seen anybody care what kits you use as long as you aren't teamkilling or something
It's called teamwork. I was in the military, and I have zero problems with non-military personnel giving out orders. As long as they're giving out good comms and leading the team well. Plus, half the people I've met in the military have shittier communication skills than the people I've met on Squad and Squad 44(PS).
Non bias point of view. A war game with post scriptum depth and hll graphics and maps would be goated
I played that both at first it looks like PS is good bcs of the advertisement but the soldier movement and graphics was not good enough what I liked in this game is good in terms of armor vehicles...but still Hell let loose far greater they still focus on historically accurate better graphics in game soldier movement uniform facial expressions fixing bugs rather than adding new content armor vehicles that soon they will be added as very easiest part HLL devs continue improve better server playable in any gaming flatform that player used PC xbos PS thats why more players play HLL..
Love both. Have a lot more hours in HLL. PS is a much better... simulation.
Hell let loose still isn't fully realised tho
Hope they do the infantry combat overhaul like recently in squad for Post Scriptum in the future too.
I would hate if they fucked with the gunplay in the game, oh shit they already did, how bout we stick to optimization, and 100 player servers
Yea cause when I'm tired I flail my arms around when I aim.
No thanks.
By your description post scriptum feels really similar to heroes and generals, is it really?
Its not, I can say that.
It's been too long since I played H&G to really have an opinion, but I don't remember it being similar no, and tbh after getting properly stuck in to Squad 44 over the last few weeks, I think the general gunplay and weapon handling feels better than even Hell Let Loose.
@@RedcoatViking_Official ok thanks for the info
Is Squad44 is just Squad in WW2 then I'd choose PS
yeah it literally is
HLL is great, i really like it, and i havnt played a fps game for years since everyone need 30 bullets to die.
Might pick up PS on sale one day, when i see items in buildings. because as realistic the fighting can be, the map and buildings you fight around also needs to great
It's always interesting to me what people like. I like HLL too, but the items inside a house matter zero to me. The immersion of the considerably better squad play in Post Scriptum trumps that by miles.
@@tofu1608for me the copy and paste buildings and map design of ps kills it for me.
@@ApeRiderr I don't understand this claim. Is there anything to back it up?
@@tofu1608 I just don’t think the maps are very well designed to be honest. A lot dead space in the maps, areas and objectives that are awkward to attack and defend. A lot of copy and paste buildings that are empty and look like they should be in a ps2 game. Weird window placements that make it difficult to defend certain buildings.
@@ApeRiderr you know it's a mod right? In the actual developer hands it's going to be fleshed out. But people keep saying the maps aren't realistic and I can't find anything to support that at all
Hell let loose is better . Due to having mix of realistic sbd and arcade . Like running without drinking which is annoying on lsrge map s
You forgot to mention "Hell let loose" is more expensive.
I don't need to now because you did it for me 🫡
@@RedcoatViking_Officialkeys on g2a are cheap
You say that gunplay in HLL is better. That is the first time I have heard someone say that. What do you mean by “better” easier to play or more realistic? Because PS’s gun play is “hands down” more realistic. HLL doesn’t even have bullet drop.
HLL does have bullet drop, and bullet penetration, but generally speaking I just find the weapons feel more fluid to use, whereas in PS it's got a little bit of that Squad jank to it.
So, the take away is, Hell Let Loose is better. I haven't played either, I do have Squad and BattleBit Remastered, and I hate the ticket system.
Honestly, if that's the take away you get, I fear for what you consider an actually good game. Neither are better than one another, simple as.
stop with that, which is better, post. scriptum is simulation, hell let loose arcade
But dad it makes money :(
I have both games, I thing HLL looks way better, Squad 44 looks cartoony. Both great games.
Do you think which one play longest? 😂😂😂I don't want to spend money on squad 44.
Í would go for HHL If I had to choose
lol you have it backwards
Post scriptum runs bad on my setup on medium while hell let loose on Ultra runs beautifully.
That’s interesting because my experience is opposite, HLL had more stutter and was less fluent while in PS I faced only connection problems. it mostly depends on your PC setup and how it Works with each game
Very weird. HLL has so many issues, especially like Stuttergrad.
Mine is opposite as well, PS runs nicely at max, and HLL didnt run at medium during free weekend.
@@BRAdriel10 HLL is definitely more stuttery for me, and I just upgraded my system.
hell let loose TOP"
Haven't watch the video yet, but let me guess it's VERY Post Scriptum biased
HLL is my main game so I don't think so, I try to stay neutral, but I don't rip on either game so if that's biased then yeah, I guess so!
I never understand people saying gunplay feels better in HLL. It feels lighter, yeah, more casual and easy. But for beefy realism, PS gunplay always. I love both games but PS is just always going to win.
I've never managed to find a good sensitivity to give the guns any weight in PS, in HLL it just seems to come naturally to me :)
@@RedcoatViking_Official I have mine fairly low for most games, and I'm at work now but I think my PS global sens is at 50%. Mouse 800 DPI. I have 1000 hours in HLL and I've just been shitting on it lately due to constant bad games but I really do love the game. Just the casual audience makes it harder for me to find a good, immersive team play match.
Hell Let Loose has surprisingly unrealistic gunplay considering it is touted as a realistic ww2 shooter.
@@dylanpaul7371 very true
You answered yourself. People say gunplay in HLL feels better because it's not overcomplicated.
*IT'S UNLISTED*
Post scriptum looks like a PS3 game lmao😂😂 HLL on top
They both have their merits and and non-merit parts to the games 🤔
Yeah :)
Hell let loose . Because it's on console and also because it has superior textures
if PS maps are fictional it's hard pass for me.
they aren’t…
Jesus, how much can you stretch a video. He just takes a full minute to list one difference and the differences actually start at 2:40.
Maybe I'm just not very good at making videos? Either way, nobody forced you to watch it, but thanks for the revenue anbd engagement either way👍
we need hell let loose so that the post scriptum knows which direction not to turn in. Post scriptum much better than hll. I have both of them, I still cant play that hll with his gunplay, its just flying hands with weapon with non body or legs. Just like counter strike 1.6
First also I like hell let loose more
"The gunplay in HLL is superb" lol
I played about 500 hours of HLL and im over it. It's daunting, cringy work. Not fun. Most of the time teams are stacked for a 20 minute helpless slaughter. Every once in awhile do I actually have fun with a group of randoms who know what they are doing and have a few laughs slogging it out. But recently ive noticed a few things like people making squads and leaving the sqaud immediately to make another as to foce people into the game but then it's a drag asking someone to take the role. Lots of SL with no microphones either. Lame. Booooooooo. 9\10 in the first few weeks. 4/10 after getting your feet wet. Meh.
Post scriptum is a dead game though?
Not anymore, comrade!
@RedcoatViking_Official you trying to hop in a game together and show me the ropes? I'm a hell let loose player
Squad 44 dying becaus HLL, soon Squad will dye when Arma 4 release
lol nah
If you want to have fun: HLL
If you don't: PS
Depends how you define fun really...
If you want brainless pew pew action, HLL, if you want a game where you have to strategize and think and appreciate historical accuracy/realism: PA
Player count says it all
invalid argument
By that logic we should all be playing Fortnite because it's got WAY more players than Hell Let Loose... Go on and start downloading it, I hear Ariande Grande is doing a concert soon!
@@RedcoatViking_Official Your video is comparing HLL vs PS, and has nothing to do with fortnite lol, bad argument my man.
If you were comparing Forntinte to some other game in the genre, then you can say that my logic is false.
But in this case, it's all about ps vs hll.
There is a reason why no one gives a fuck about PS and it's not popular.
Just look on yt how many views does hll get vs ps, it's way more cinematic then shity looking ps.
Only gunplay I can say looks better then Hll, all the other parts suck ass lol
I find HLL super clunky for a casual game. If Squad 44 comes to PS5 I would rather spend the time learning that because it looks stunning!
Only played HLL, so I'm bias. However just from the game titles alone, HLL wins, since ww2 was hell and as pawn pieces to command, this is what they wanted, hell letting loose. What exactly is post scriptum ? and why name a WW2 FPS game like that hmmmmmm
You judge a game by its name😂
@@alfredibsen4750if all was equal haha
They must have heard you because they changed the name to Squad 44 ;)
@@RedcoatViking_Official hahaha that is hilarious! Just from a game marketing approach, they kind of screwed up. Whats the significance of squad 44 ? Another failed title
HLL is a running simulator, PS is a Walking Simulator..
None of them.
Post Scriptum is 1000x better and it’s not even remotely close.
It’s all subjective. Is Post Scriptum more realistic? Yes. Do I like the more realistic aspects of the game? No, I don’t think those parts are fun. It’s well made and all but saying one is better than the other is just ridiculous. It all depends on what the player wants out of the game.
HLL is a casual arcade style game akin to battlefield or COD. Post Scriptum is on a whole other level regarding: coordination, teamwork, realism, weapons, sound design is insane, armor is incredible, and far more hardcore. PS is far superior and it’s not even close.
lol you’re just not going to be able to wrap your mind around this so I’m not going to even continue this convo after this. One is more realistic and strategy diven, yes. But if a player is not into that more hardcore aspect then that game is not better for the player. It’s about what the player wants out of the experience. They are both great games made for slightly different crowds. Think about ARMA. That game is even more realistic and deep than Post Scriptum but that doesn’t mean it’s better….its just for a different crowd. Just try for a second to stop the fanboyism and think outside the box.
It has a player count of 3 for a reason
@@johncurtis6815 anybody who says HLL is like battlefield or COD has never actually played battlefield or COD
console players, let us mourn
Hell let loose dude post scriptum is a dead it’s complete trash I regret buying it
Dead? I'm guessing you haven't heard the news... :P
HLL woke...
TH-cam chose Post Scriptum.
PS > HLL
Hll > Dead scriptum
@@BuckarooBanzai-someone hasn't heard the news.
@@BuckarooBanzai-it’s alive again mate😂
@@tofu1608 the squad 44?, now its back to its grave in a week 🤣😂
@@BuckarooBanzai- what are you talking about? You clearly don't play the game. The servers are so full I can hardly get in to a match, and new servers are opening daily...
post scriptum can't even get ballistics right, hard pass