God of War 5 Ragnarok - THOR Vs Kratos Boss Fight & Death Scene (4K 60FPS) PS5
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- God of War Ragnarok Thor vs kratos and death by betrayal from Odin
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Great fighing
5:35-5:37
Kratos make a sound like TC Carson (og Kratos almost)
@@Tribrid-zv3nq why not
@@Tribrid-zv3nq ikr it’s weird
Bruh you couldn't even dodge properly when fighting Thor
Odin: “I didn’t want this.”
*killed his own son without any second thought*
-and hits his granddaughter away with a lightning hammer.
He’s practically what any abusive person say.
He didn't want to have to kill his most powerful pawn/tool.
@@kevinphoenix2007 Odin grew more desperate and ruthless to the point of killing his own kin. Odin doesn’t give a damn about how many people he’ll have to sacrifice to get what he wants.
Worse then H!tler bruh
Imagine if Thor had countered Odin’s attack and we’d gotten Kratos and Thor vs Odin. Would’ve broken the gaming internet
Would’ve been the most epic fight of the gaming century….
Missed opportunity
yeah could’ve been better if thor is killed by odin at the middle of that fight, if they really had to make him dead at least
Thats exactly what i thought before the game release. There were released scenes of the first fight and i thought that that was how it was gonna play out.
fr, Thor did not get what he deserved. He should have been more. Kratos does not struggle against him in the 2nd fight at all. He gets defeated easily, and then gets an underwhelming death
When you realize Thor is basically kratos if he didn't go against Zeus
Edit: for those who are saying that he's not like kratos, Thor whipped out the entire giant race who are also his own kind just like kratos who killed the entire Greece including humans ,titans and gods
True
True
That’s exactly what they were going for
@@TheNoctisify yes
@@TheNoctisify was it though
Odin: *Stabs Thor through the chest without warning*
Also Odin: THIS IS ALL THEIR FAULT! THEY DID THIS TO US!
Sounds like some people in real life, that I’ve known. Cause unbelievable amounts of damage and it’s always everyone else’s fault.
This is what makes him very despicable. He’s always blaming anyone except himself for his actions and flaws.
They'll do the garbage and play the victim
He’s not capable of empathy. Odin sees Thor the same way we see a screwdriver in our hand: just a tool to get the job done. everyone is there to serve his purpose.
It’s all Mikey’s fault moment
Welp. If he didn't send Baldur to Kratos, this wouldn't happen in the first place. But no.....
In the myth, Thor died from the snake's venom and in this game, he still did but it was a different snake
In 2018 GOW, Jormungandr poisoned Kratos' axe when he ate it and spat it out
@@kingdomofprussia9749 so that's why the wound on his stomach is still there
"Different Snake" very good.
@@CBRN-115 yes
@@kingdomofprussia9749 It was never stated that the Axe was poisoned, he simply spit the axe out
"Don't you know what I've done?"
"Yes! But what will you do now?"
Love this! Kratos sees in Thor a younger version of himself. He tries to save him, give him a chance Kratos almost didn't get, he knows that everyone deserves the chance to atone.
I feel like Baldur was the younger Kratos, and Thor is what Kratos could have been, the parallels are so good either eay regardless
@@Jeremiah_D. I don't see it that way, to me, Baldur was who Atreus could've turned into. He was the representation of the the cycle of vengeance and family murdering that plagues all the gods.
The whole point of GOW 1 (2018) was showing Atreus that even though they're God's, they have to be better than what their baser instincts lead them to do.
If Atreus had never been told the truth by Kratos, that he was a God, that his father killed his father etc. He would've grown to resent/ hate his dad much like Baldur did Freya for being ridiculously overprotective. Kratos chooses to tell Atreus the truth because what he thought was protecting the boy, was actually harming and alienating.
@@iannoome1898 from what i can tell, both thor and baldur represented both atreus and kratos.
Baldur represented the cycle that kratos delt with in the greek pantheon, while also representing what would happen to atreus if not told the truth.
Thor represented the monster that kratos became in his past, while representing what would happen to Atreus if he never tried to obtain independence from his father (albeit to an amplified degree)
@@BitrateBilly I really enjoy this take, it's completely valid and I'll probably borrow it myself
eh, maybe Kratos sees in Thor just someone similar to him who still has a chance to save his family
There are many differences between Thor and his brother Baldur. Baldur fought wildly, his motivation to inflict pain. Thor is calmer - his bloodlust is for the fight itself, not for the suffering it inflicts. The full force of his attack is as heavy as any I have felt. The Hammer, Mjölnir, only compounds his power... each blow echoes with the death and destruction they have wrought together. He chose to end our fight prematurely. It is good for both of us that it did not reach its conclusion.
- Kratos
Did Kratos really say this?
@@firedragon21 in the journal yes
@@firedragon21 yes
Yeah
I don't believe this indicates that Kratos would have lost (as we can clearly see), but it likely would have restarted the cycle of vengeance with Thors daughter (and Sif). Atreaus may have been upset too.
The character development of Kratos is amazing I mean he literally use TALK NO JUTSU for the first time and convince thor.
underrated
Thor was such an amazing character. Ridden with anger and hate over his dead children, but with enough sense to be able to see flashes that his enemies are not who Odin paints them to be. Conflicted between vengeance and morality, Thor makes for an amazing villain, one that I wish had more of a redemption.
His parallels with Kratos were amazing to see. I think the only difference with him was that he never had the wake up call to be better until his sons died. He realized how much he loved them, and just how terrible he was as a father. If he were different, then maybe they’d still be alive. It appears that his journey for redemption only started in the few years since their deaths.
Villain is a strong word for how Thor was in this game he was really a victim of his father and treated like an attack dog instead of a son
@@sharkfrenzy213 Thor literally told Atreus he enjoyed killing the rest of his people (the giants) while they were on a mission. Did Odin manipulate him? Yes, but earlier Thor had the capacity to think for himself enough to realize that he needed to stop drinking for the sake of his family. He still had control over his actions and he chose to do evil. He was still a villain up until this part.
@@cwoherem If you're indoctrinated since birth it's hard to break away from it. Just because they're adults doesn't change that fact.
@@sharkfrenzy213 Well looking at his actions throughout the games, he definitely IS a villain and an antagonist. However, he is a redeemed villain. Odin is the real villain of this game
Kratos: Thor! Listen to me!
*continues to hit him with a 20 piece combo
😂😂🤣🤣
That s the "Norse code" for "Thor! Listen to me!" I guess.
@@mrpuss2519 that was kinda funny🤣
To be frank, violence is the language he will understand clearly at the moment
@@CBRN-115 😂🤣
I think my favorite thing about this fight is how HEAVY each blow is. Like every attack you do against Thor his body reacts to in some way as if you're the only thing in the nine relms that can even get the man to feel it. While EVERY hit Thor lands on Kratos not only takes a large chunk out of your health but throws you around like you were made of fluff. Nothing in the game makes Kratos react with pain as much as Thor's hammer, and nothing but your hits can even cause the God of Thunder to flinch. It's what ups the spectacal for me in this moment.
My favourite animation in the whole game is Kratos’ ragdoll spin every time he gets clobbered by Mjolnir. It’s just… we’ve seen the stuff he’s capable of, so how strong is something that can do THAT to him?
Their size and weight difference could also have something to do with what you said.
@@TimmyStreams I mean, Mjiolnir is described as really heavy in myths, and Thor is as strong if not stronger than Kratos (that’s a hot take of mine, definitely up for debate)
They're Gods of War for a reason. Look at Ares and Hachiman
Really clever that Kratos stuck the knife through Thor’s hand and grounded him, preventing him from using his lightning powers
I dont think you can ground Thor like that man
@@hakansekmen8172 yeah he blocked him for a sec, cause he wanted to talk
Yes but if look close how his whole body was covered in lightning, den after stab only around hand , nd to ground....maybe Thor felt defeated when kratos knocked hammer out of his hand...otherwise he could had pulled knife out.
@@dazedManateeThe knife handle would’ve ripped open Thor’s hand
@@dazedManatee He saw that Kratos was trying to spare him, and that took the fight out of Thor.
At least Kratos didn't have to kill him. I was worried how he'll have to explain it to Thor's daughter. And Thrud got to see who Odin really is.
i agree with you but they both could've killed eachother in fact thor pretty much killed kratos in first fight and revived him and even if it was just knock out as some people say (majority think it was kill) but even if it was knocked out he could've finished him there and now but he revived him and let him get up cus he was just buying time for odin wasnt allowed to kill him but i think he accidentaly did xD either way why im saying all of this is because they both kind of spared eachother in the end and its sad to see thor go like that cus i think they would be good friends and very powerfull duo if they ended up uniting thats only sad thing for me in the game thor was really well made in this game from design to voice to character to power just perfect i wish he didnt have to die but it was meant to happen .. in ragnarok they both are supposed to die him and odin one way or another
@@deadlyaim465 I don't remember Thor killed Kratos, it was more like he knocked him out. but yeah he could've killed him while Kratos is unconscious. I would love to see Kratos climb his way back from Helheim.
@@deadlyaim465 well, i don't think so, Thor was not capable of killing Kratos, you must remember that kratos was holding back the whole time when they fought for the first time, that's why Thor could knocked him out easily. But when Thor mentioned about Odin having plans for Atreus, then kratos got angry and serious, he then gave Thor a punch that broke his jaw and at that moment, Thor knew that Kratos was a real deal, then Thor left. In the second fight, you can see that Thor at his full strength couldn't even hurt Kratos that wasn't angered, that shows how big the difference in strength is between Kratos and Thor.
@@mrsapu5110 no not really thor could've easly killed him (he already did) and let him live while he wasnt even powered up and was playing around since odin told him NOT TO KILL HIM now thats clearly showing you the difference between both ... second fight thor was already powered up fighting the serpent and the same second he knocked it back in time he came to kratos in same scene and still put up a good fight whatever kratos did to him he took it like he said "i can take it" hes just a tank not to mention his mental state in second fight or that he was 90% poisoned already too and kratos still couldnt kill him both could've killed eachother but both decided not to thor in first fight kratos in second kind of so lets not be talkin non sense and only facts its ok to like a character but ignoring facts is not ok for me in my book they are 1-1 and clearly equal did i mentioned thor cannot heal? kratos can and thor still did not give a shit after all those stabs and cuts from 3 different weapons kratos gave him idk how people can ignore like that the might of thor :D i like kratos but .. some things are just exagerated by a long shot
because Thor is not a enemy but a victim
A real shame to see Thor get done in by Odin like that. He really deserved his chance at redemption.
He committed genocide
He did redeem himself. He refused to become that destroyer he once saw himself as, even if it meant dying at the hands of his father.
The cycle of gods . Kratos is trying his best to break
something's wrong with my copy of thor lmfao
@@tr3434 The cycle ended there, and he became better in that moment than who he was for hundreds of years.
5:44 I never realized how much Kratos tanked that hit from mjolnir.
He also doesn’t move at when Thor kept hitting harder and harder with his hammer
I think last time Thor hit Kratos like this it stopped his heart as he wasn't ready for it, this time he knew how to take the hit without dropping
@@holliswilliams8426 correct
Not the strongest blow from Thor because if it were, it would have sent Kratos through time
@@imad-777 Wrong Thor is at full power hence the lightning. Just that Kratos is too strong.
5:36 any OG GOW fans recognize that grunt sound? Sounds like the old (Greek) Kratos came out for a second there.
I’m pretty sure that was Thor, but yeah, sounds very similar.
@@T_Dude I know that sound anywhere,most would immediately recognize it like myself.
I was finally looking to find this comment
Was not thor bruh. Did you not play the old god of war? @@T_Dude
Damn beating the world serpent and then putting up a good fight vs Kratos is an impressive feat
What feat?Kratos still holding back here lol.
@@duykhanhcloud6866 yes bro, he only used 0.0000000000000001% of his power.
He did not beat the world serpent he just sent it back in time
@@duykhanhcloud6866 no
@@jackreeves7 truth hurt i know but sometime you have to man up and take it babe lol.
6:35 "Don't you know what I've done?"
Kratos: "Do you think I'm any better?"
I change, you can and must change
Thats sounds to me
What has Thor done in the game that he regrets doing?
@@arekmg0003 probably the part where he kills "all" the giants and became an neglectful father and husband
@@arekmg0003 he has slaughtered thousands possibly millions in Odin's quest for control of his fate and knowledge. Odin essentially used Thor like the gods of Olympus used Kratos before he started killing them.
Thor killed for fun
4:26 the moment Thor became Will Smith
Knew that Typing Smith in the Comments Search would bring me here lmao
Underrated.
Tbh I have to wonder if they inputted that dialogue before or after the incident. I wanna believe before but it probably would have been a quick thing to place into the fight
"Keep her name out of your fucking mouth!"
lol
That subtle nod Kratos gives to Thor that they are in agreement 7:28
I see that.
And Thor nods right back
@@elharvey5032now THAT I never noticed. Thank you sir
5:36 That's literally old Kratos' voice, you can hear him return for a moment
The young god killer had to come out for that throw
Omg man I miss that voice ngl
Holy crap I didn’t even notice that 😮
Dunno if that was on purpose or just some really good voice acting
Pretty sure that was thor
7:41 the far away look in Thor’s eyes as I think he realizes the atrocities he has committed all in the name of his father who manipulated him
A father who never loved him or his family.
@@Igarappappa zeus
Odin sees Thor as a tool instead of a son.
It's sad that the moment he gains clarity and freedom from Odin's control, he is stabbed dead for it... he never got to grow older and become wiser like Kratos. Couldn't show his love properly to his wife and daughter....
Odin was the true Destroyer. He broke everything that came near him, for the sake of his ambitions.
Worse than Zeus. At least Zeus tried to make Kratos see reason.
2:26- I love when Thor activated his own version of Spartan Rage
Norse Rage.
Let the rage of Asgard fill your hammer.
Asgardian Rage 😂
Warrior’s Madness
Odin at 7:55 asks
"Are you Broken"
Just goes to show how everyone is just a Tool for him. Especially his family
5:05
Kratos: Thor listen to me!
Also Kratos: Activates Spartan Rage and punches him non stop like a punching bag.
First comment lol
😂
Its really funny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The punches did not have any effect
@@laserbeamgamming4473 The healthbar going down says otherwise, salty child.
Thor was one of the characters I loved the most in this game. Sad that he didn't have a second chance like Kratos, but there can't be a happy ending for everyone. The writing in this game was just superb.
Least he’ll be happy in Valhalla
@@blissshastings1818 I'm not sure since surtr, or should I say Ragnarok destroyed Asgard, which would include Valhalla. Another possibility (And this one I'd like to believe) Thor's parts of his soul could be retrieved from the lake of souls, something like Sindri did with Brok.
The writing is absolutely disgusting. Thor whacked Jormungandr back before birth, and everyone saw it. Yet the devs didn't think to have Thor do the same thing to Kratos. It's almost as if they don't want to acknowledge Kratos getting clipped.
Sony meatriders be like
@@wolf-kissed9522Congratulations on being smarter than like 96% of the GoW community
The grunt at 5:36 sounds exactly like a young Kratos
Exactly
There’s actually one in the first fight against Thor too
4:11 can we just respect how freaking hard that three point Draupnir combo goes?! With the music intensifying at each blow too! So freaking epic!
Kid's got some balls on him.
Didn't even think twice about taking aim at Odin.
BOY 😂😂
Well he's a son of Kratos
Yea that CGI, scriptwriting and coding is so brave
@@plebiusjonbson823 you must be fun at parties.
@@plebiusjonbson823 the virgin lack of suspension of disbelief
4:25 will smith moment
LOL
LEL
I wonder if that was an actual reference to the slap
People are still on that?
Lol
7:33 When you find your cat befriending a rat:
6:32
Thor: Don't you know... what I've done?!
Thor, you're talking to a man who's gone through so much shit and sacrificed almost everything for his only son.
that Kratos and Thor are similar in the same. And that's why.
Kratos was killed and sacrificed a lot of lives in order to achieve his own goal. And he regretted all his mistakes and horrible actions
Thor was manipulated by his father. Odin made him commit countless crimes such as killing innocent people and especially giants and facing Faye. These actions may not matter to him or care about what he did to people. But from within he is broken and regrets all those heinous crimes and incidents.
5:43 Kratos really just ate the hammer to the face showing how bloody tough he is. It's also a nice call back to their first fight
You can also see how as they're trading blows, Kratos is actually pushing Thor back, eventually causing Mjolnir to slip out of Thor's hands completely.. another subtle hint of their strength levels.
I also noticed that if you slow down the vid at 0:33, you can see that kratos legit knocks thor out cold on the second punch as shown by Thors body going completely limp, and kratos having to pull thor back towards him
In saying this tho, I absolutely love Thor as a character and wish we saw more of him.
"Showing his plot armor"
@@nicholasbrown668 you really are mad aren’t you?
Cry about it
@@lightmohamed5700 Ironic
@@Xer405 indeed
Kratos the champion of gaming as most famous powerful character too
Even he nowadays won’t be spared from the plot armour shit
@@nicholasbrown668
Aw, Thor fanboys are so upset lol.
Thor got whooped son.
Does anyone else wish that Thor had lived, and earned redemption so that he could become an ally of Kratos?
With Jormugandr around that going be hard.
@@jaieregilmore971 Maybe, but still. It would've been great.
@Nick F. asgard was destroyed so he does not. He however does disappear so its likely he either went to helheim or something else entirely
I do but that might've been too OP for future games lol. Two of the most powerful and savage gods just wrecking everyone!!
I felt that that was a wasted opportunity for how this went out. I mean, even his last word(s) was just... “No”.
"We must be better"
The same last words Kratos said to both Baldur and Thor to end their final fights. One was to save a parent from their child while the other was to save a parent for the sake of their children
But like Odin said Baldurs mind was gone, so in other words, Kratos set him free by killing him in the process.
Such a good scene. Thor, a man not unlike Kratos in many ways. I am happy they went this route although i wish he didn't die. Thor tried to do right by his family but Odin had him blinded too much. A conflicted man.
Sadly, their last fight didn't have much collateral damage, considering how immensely powerful they both are.
Baldur's fight was just breathtaking. Thor's fight is.... A tad bit disappointing
Yeah like the last fight with baldur their were moving all over the olace but here we just fight outside the the great lodge with no visible damage.
Yea I agree this last fight ended as soon as it was getting good, super disappointing but still not bad. My mind over hyped it from the beginning of the game with that first Thor fight so I was expecting the next to be chaos.
It would have been nice to be launched all over the village during the fight, but i felt pretty satisfied by the end of the battle, it made sense why the baldur fight went crazy and that was because the game was generally a calmer story, this one was more grand and thus this fight wouldnt need flashy arena changes.
@@CBRN-115 Baldurs fights had better backgrounds and things going on around the fight but the combat and emotion/character is better in Thor fights. In baldurs fights Kratos was just beating up on an invulnerable guy while Kratos and Thor go toe to toe and their fights are super intense
5:36 Kratos's old voice for a moment.
I really like Thor as a character. The guy is full of anger but still listens. He isnt some guy that would use that chance to try kill kratos. He cares for his children and has the courage to go against odin even though he is his father. My favorite character in Ragnarok honestly
Like he hit his own son Modi 🙄
Did Thor just casually send Jormungand to GOW 2018?
Yes
so in other words its an infinite time traveling loop
Yup
That's the younger one that Atreus revive during Ironwood adventure, right? if so , the older one(the one that we interact with during 2018) still remains.
@@jeisonloh_97 yes that's the young one also when kratos saw him kratos said "he looks different "because the young one is still small compare to the old one and even mimir was surprised because he saw him in midgard but how suddenly he's here in war with thor out of nowhere
Kratos is extremely strong. Stronger than i ever imagined. Easily resisting the hammers attacks and then lifting it with the blades . In the first fight he was holding back a lot . Although there are certain places where the game feels rushed. They could have easily made it a trilogy. I am very happy to see kratos beating the Norse gods to a pulp
The scary thing is, he was still holding back here. Not as much as the first fight, but still holding back nonetheless. He’s so damn badass.
@@MR.ICE. true but also he grew in power from the start of this game to the end
Yeah its called a video game
@@nicholasbrown668 no shit
@@MR.ICE. Young Kratos would had absolutely dismantle Thor.
5:36 that's the God of War 3 grunt. Young Kratos came back for a second there.
2:06 the way Kratos slammed Thor to the cabin was impressive, it shows you that he was holding back in the first fight
Or better yet: 5:35
And this 3:57
Thor was poisoned
He's still weaker. Remember thr R3 kill on those water lizard thingy? He tries to snap their jaws but can't.. so Freya/aureus shoots them with an arrow before they both stab it in the head. And I believe there's a dragon like creature killed the same way..where the blades are jabbed in the jaw and other on snout to rip it apart..but he can't.
Meanwhile in the PS3 days...he'd kill something larger than ragnarok beast easily.
@@ertugrulbae46Greek gods gets stronger as they age and kratos is a 1000 years old in ragnarok
Love how the more Kratos & Thor’s weapons clash the more Thor starts to stagger back.
Good eye!
Nice catch. Subtle way of showing who the stronger opponent is.
They both staggered, we see more of Thor staggering though since he is shown more 😆
Good detail to catch, the Leviathan Axe has a longer, and better handle, useful for having a better swing, thus, more force
@@aadityachakraborti7484 well thor got 1 weapon and Kratos 3 lol that's kind of unfair
It's a shame Thor died. I think he and Kratos could have been decent friends.
If Thor teamed up with Kratos in a third game, that would've been epic.
They’d be pretty much an unstoppable duo in that sense.
@@liamhamilton9086 and imagine we get to see Kratos wielding Thor's hammer in a cutscene... sad
@@Tygermite On some Naruto and Sasuke vs Momoshiki type shit 😂 But who would be Momoshiki is the question.
4:27 did Thor really just said that!?
7:29 they nodded to each other, cool detail.
Man. I have literally never played a single GoW game, I basically know the story through lore recap videos and I watched most of the cutscenes for this one and the last one, yet it still doesn't fail to make me feel emotional. Crazy emotional.
Thor, the entire game seems to be just a shell of himself, a slave to Odin, who himself is a slave to the fact that he can't know everything. They're all puppets controlled by something higher, their fates are sealed -- or at least they think that's so. Thor is a god, he is immensely powerful, a brute, a destroyer, as he calls himself. I feel for him so much because once you're so deep in this caricature of an identity, you feel like that's all you amount to. There's no way you can be a different person, be better, change. Its even a little bit comforting for you to let yourself stagnate and only stick to the character you know for so long. You're stuck in this rabbit hole and it seems like you can't climb out of it, especially if the people around you validate and affirm this caricature of yourself more than who you actually want to be.
Then he meets Kratos. Much like Thor, he was brutal, driven by anger, madness, short-sighted and most of all, blind to what he actually wanted -- peace. He achieved this peace through rage and violence, but it was empty. The real Kratos, deep inside wanted to atone, he knew this anger was false, but he's the God of War -- he has to remain that way, right?
No more. He says no more. For the sake of his children, for the sake of innocent people, for the sake of the world, no more. Kratos shows that you can defy the fate or path that people force yourself into. He instills within Atreus the duty to be responsible, to treat immeasurable power with great respect. And he knows more than anyone in the Nine Realms how Thor feels. How stuck he is on his path, how the self-pity and anger fuel him. The denial. He's the first to empathize with Thor. He shows him kindness because he relates, and the fact that this goes through to Thor struck me so hard. Its not about what you've done, who you've hurt, what mistakes you've made, its about how you can grow and continue to be better and atone through not just words and emotions, but most of all through action.
A man sees himself in another man and chooses to help the other right their wrongs. To remind us that we can always make a change, we can always be better, we can always be good, we can always break the cycle. We can easily stagnate, we can easily be evil, but to choose to be good in a world full of evils is true strength. That's what Kratos represents and it was so powerful seeing his journey even as a spectator, not a player. What a compelling and touching narrative.
Same
Beautiful writing
Missed opportunity not to have Kratos and Thor team up to fight Odin! But still a masterpiece of a game.
I had a feeling it was gonna go in that direction too. It probably was until Odin offed him Lol
If they teamed up it would just be a one-sided beatdown.
Freya needed to face odin, you can't have atreus, kratos, thor and freya vs odin.
@@kylereese5841 you're right, I should have been more clear. Thor would still die, just after after they teamed up and then Atreus and Freya would join like it's shown.
Thor is really tired from everything and you can see it in his eyes and when in the final fight he says "I'm done with you and your son" he really means it
Another little detail I like is when Thor says "Sif was right about you. I just didn't want to see it" Odin is shocked and goes a little back. He's like WTF?!
Really I thought he was joking thanks for that
He kinda brought it on himself
@@brianpope7912 Yes he did
I honestly think people don't understand this version of Thor isn't the strongest version we see in the game. The Thor at the beginning is the strongest. He is focused, sober, in sync with his remaining family, and his anger and strength are harnessed and pointed at Kratos like a fine blade. At this point in the game he is unfocused erratic undisciplined and out of sync with the people he cares for.
I think this was on purpose because Kratos does the reverse. By the time we see this fight with Thor Kratos is at his absolute best self. He knows what he needs to do.
@@jamiekelley4076 Good analyze
2:04 kratos doing heimdall's dodge after he killed him lol.
Because kratos always learns from his mistakes
@@batabet9790 he is like iron man always learning from mistakes.
5:45 Jesus this part was bone-chilling.
It's like thor is surrender, he waiting kratos to kill him
@@septiarizqyrenaldi2038 thor didn't surrender, kratos made him like that 😂😂
Ryan Hurst did a fantastic job as Thor
Absolutely!
Yes he did! Remember the Titans the movie: Coach Boone: What is pain?
Thor: No we want some more! No we want more! No we want some more!
The guy is great
The thing about this fight is it puts into perspective how powerful both Kratos and Thor are in their own right. Thor withstood all 3 of Kratos' legendary weapons fully hitting him and wounding which is absolutely awesome. It demonstrates how much of a behemoth Thor actually is when he continues fighting as if it were nothing and makes it more believable that this is the guy that wiped out the giants. Kratos on the other hand withstood full blows from Mjolnir point blank. Literally, gets struck straight across the face with it and is still standing. In norse mythology, there is a story in which Thor strikes a giant 3 times in the head with Mjolnir which is later revealed to have leveled 3 separate mountains. The fact alone that Kratos can withstand that strike is ,in its own sense, is awesome.
4:25
This is truly a Will Smith moment.
Lmao
So glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that💀
Goddamn, Thor put up one heck of a fight. Its also a testament to just how strong Kratos is since at no point in this fight is he trying to kill Thor, just tire him out so he can see reason. Anyone who says that Kratos is a weak old man in the Norse games is missing the point: Kratos is holding back most of his power because he doesn't want to be the god killer he used to be.
Exactly. I couldn’t agree more. And here, Thor is actively going all out and trying to kill Kratos. It’s scary. Kratos is stronger now than he ever was back in his Greece days, and he’s still not going all out.
Its a Testament to plot armor yeah
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what kind of excuse is plot armor? Literally every character has plot armor. Thor also had plot armor by that logic
@bluehawk56 how is he weak?
Are you seriously thinking Thor is more powerful than Greek Pantheon? Lmao.
5:18 has me cryin tears!!!😂😂😂
That was too good😭🤣
😂 that's perfect
It's not a loop guys, but it is infinite Jormungandrs and timelines. The old Jormungandr tells Loki to go to Ironwood to create him, because if he didn't tell him, he wouldn't exist ( time paradox). By telling him to create him, there exist 2 Jormungandrs in a period of time between the creation of the young one and it being sent back in time: The old Jormungandr who tells you to create him ( the one in Midgard with a beard) and the young one (without a beard) who fights thor while the old one is in midgard . After the young one gets sent back in time, the old Jormungandr is still there chilling, only he remains, BUT the young jormungandr who gets sent back in time, grows old to eventually encounter Kratos and Loki, recognizing them and Loki as his creator. He then later on in ragnarok tells him to create him,(cause otherwise he wouldn't exist) but by telling him to create him, he also creates a new Jormungandr, that goes on to be sent back in time and do the exact same thing. It's not a loop, just infinite Jormungandrs and infinite timelines. Either that, or an infinitely looping single timeline, which Jormungandr is not "stuck in", it's just that his life and moment in time wasn't as linear as other's
I just realised at 5:54 Thor was clicking his fingers to call Mjolnir but Kratos pins his hand to the floor to stop him clicking. The first time we saw Thor I noticed that he clicks his left hand to call Mjolnir, so I was wondering if at the end Kratos would break Thor's fingers to stop him clicking them and calling the hammer.
he also tried to do it at 5:51
Kratos fighting Thor felt like if we was fighting his younger more sadistic version. The one who was fooled by the Gods and use by them as a tool, as Thor is used by Odin.
Kratos at the end won not because he was stronger but because he was wiser, he had completed his redemption arch, he got better and understood that revenge it’s not the path, he finally decide his destiny, that’s why he won. Thor at the end started to see it that way, but then he was killed by his father.
It’s actually poetic, Kratos won not because of strength, he won because of love.
That and had he wanted too, he was significantly stronger.
But yeah his development was great too.
The craziest thing to me about kratos’ redemption ark is that he always despised who he was. He hated being the ruthless god killing, ghost of Sparta, god of war that he was. But throughout the entire game u see his reserve throughout fights, him telling stories about his homeland, and making new friends along the way. Something that was almost unthinkable for him in the first game. Then when he was named general for the assault on Asgard, it still haunted him, but he took the role and was the best damn general because he was fighting not for vengeance, but for justice. Long story short, kratos became tyr. A god of war who fights only for peace
Because it was: Thor is essentially a younger Kratos: A destroyer renowned by the damage and suffering he caused in his path, a slave to his pantheon. If we consider that Thor is Kratos if he stayed loyal to the Olympians, Kratos defeating Thor is Kratos overcoming his past.
4:26 Will Smith is that you?
Can we say that this line *slaps* hard everytime
Thor "What the fuck are you waiting for?"
Kratos "Your daughter.."
Cold..
What I love about this fight is that the player actually takes a few hits here and there while matching Thor move for move. It gives a sense of realism to it.
Baseball Dads settling their differences behind the middle school parking lot (EMOTIONAL)
Yep, exactly
It crazy how much that fits
This has to be game of the year i cried during this scene when kratos say we must be better to thor for the sake of our children
Unlikely. Elden Ring will take the award.
@@thedude8526 every game ever released gets game of the year, its not a hard award to receive
This game really tells a good message about vengeance, forgiveness and family
@@thedude8526 yeah but still it all depends on the award but I still think God of War has a chance and yeah elden ring too as for Horizon Forbidden West could be nominated but they might not win the award thats my predictions for now but its a hard to tell who will win cause I have already got the platinum trophy for horizon and elden ring my god of war platinum is on its way.
Sindri and Brok 💔
7:06 damn I’ve had foos pull out guns on me, people plot to kill my family and I, know homies who’ve killed people in combat n shit but seeing Kratos evolve from a savage to a father over the course of my life lowkey made my eyes sweat.
Real
When Kratos saw Thor hit Jorumgandr that hard he said
"This fight is mine" Kratos knew he was the only one who could fight Thor and he might die doing so.
in 2:20 kratos really show how strong he is he is able to pull the mjolnir even he is holding back
He's not holding back on video
@@JessePinkmanMeth He is. He didn't want to kill Thor because that would break Atreus' and Thrúd's friendship
Atreus want to smash, so Kratos is doing him a favor
@@bigpig2709 He almost knocked out Thor in two punches while before several weren't making him budge and took a mouthful of Mjolnir and was only stunned while before he literally got killed. This shows that he wasn't fucking around anymore.
@@bigpig2709 They made Kratos wack I mean like who the hell doesn't want to see him tear these gods apart? I get that he left his past self behind but it would've been sick if Kratos exploded. Hopefully they're still saving a moment like this in future GOW games.
Thinking back on this after seeing Thor fleshed out. I think his first meeting wasn't about getting Kratos to show his true self, as Kratos wasnt holding back his power, but his bloodlust/relentless. Kratos was slowly trying to avoid being a destroyer. I think Thor, wanted Kratos as living proof that, how he(Thor) was is who he always will be. That even if they tried, they will never change. Like "There's nothing wrong with me."
Now, Thor who has been fighting endlessly, and possibly poisoned by Jorm is getting weak in strength, and exhausted. All he's ever had was his unmatched brute power. Now that he's finally took a true L. Words can get past his big bellied armored ass, and have meaning. Poor Thor.
There’s not one single indication in the game that shows Thor is poisoned
@@zantaazapre2659 Already had this talk with another, but I'll list some things
keep in mind GoW isnt a spoon feeding game you pick up info from context and other events
1. Etir Jorm's poison is in the leviathan axe. It's what stops Magni from reviving, and stops Thor's wound from the beginning of the game from ever healing up. Which was gained from Jorm spitting the axe out. Which is subtly told to you the player with "Etir imbued". Mimir wasn't with you so he never seen it happen, and it is referenced "Magni never came back? Why is that?"
Mimir has no explanation.
2. In the prophecy it says Thor sends jorm back in time, and it turns out he was poisoned by jorm and dies, we seen he send Jorm back in time, so we can only assume that it happened as such.
3. Jorm is spoken about to be = to Thor, to say Jorm didnt bite Jorm, or didn't poison him would downplay Jorm which doesn't make sense . This is a fight that both Jorm, and Thor are meant to lose in some way. You cant imply Thor just hard bodied Jorm.
Finally if we're play from Kratos POV how are we gonna know Thor actually was poisoned if there was nobody there to witness the fight, only the result.
As well as, I did say POSSIBLY poisoned, cause as you said there's nothing to say it, but just going off of what we have been told, and from what's shown. I very much do believe it.
@@hightierscrub7166 again these are all assumptions,until the devs actually confirm that Thor was indeed poisoned we can’t say for sure,Then again if he was poisoned wouldn’t he throw a hint or two in his missions with Atreus
@@hightierscrub7166 in game lore is different than irl mythology as we can clearly tell
@@zantaazapre2659 I dont think the poison from the axe is as strong as Jorm's and would have a serious effect. But the wound in his stomach never healing is a big hint especially since Gods have shown they can heal cuts/bruises like that easily. Magni never coming back was also due to the poison.
But again, nobody has/had to say it. You just have to go off what was already stated.
Thor = Jorm
Their battle = stalemate
Jorm back in time, Thor is poisoned.
Maybe if Odin didnt kill him we would've seen him succumb later on. But, I refuse to believe that Thor just hard bodies Jorm and jorm cant even so much as bite Thor's fat ass.
I like how you see Kratos try taking thors hammer multiple times because previously he’s always taken the gods weapons and ability’s and killed them with it
5:36 his sound is like the og games 😮
Now if this fight happened after Heimdall "killing Loki" (or even worse actually killed him) this whole Asgard segment would be a LOT shorter
7:12
"We must be better."
Friend: bro my pet turtle died 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Kratos: be better
Now i understand this whole purpose of why kratos didn't die
But the fact that people change and not seem predictable is actually a cool twist
i just didn't get it on my first play through
How do you know he didn't died? Kratos of Sparta died, when he made different choose.
I just noticed that Kratos stabs Faye's Knife into Thor's hand before he talks Thor down. Ultimately it was Faye's influence on Kratos that had him ending the fight before he had to kill again.
8:19 Odin: I didn’t want this
Me: LIAR!
Thor was an Actual challenge for Kratos. I loved that. Been a while since I've felt vulnerable as playing Kratos.
Vulnerable?
He is supposedly constantly holding back for no good reason other than "plot" and/or contrived characterization.
Meaning that he could potentially win if he went all out.
And that's makes Kratos boring because there are no stakes.
@@pickyricky6226 stakes were pretty real, Thor sent a thousand tonne beast back in time with his hammer, this is a whole another level of feat, imagine what could have happened if he hit Surtr, Kratos wasn't holding back on his strength, he was just holding back the intent to kill him. Thor himself was depressed and no longer that person who enjoyed fights. We can say that they both were not fighting at their 100%.
@@arshpuri That's sort of the idea I'm going with.
I just don't know why Kratos wasn't bloodied and/or tired at the end and then immediately went to fight Odin.
It's all about portrayal.
@@arshpuri technically, he was still holding back on his strength as it’s fueled by his rage. So holding back that intent would still be holding back on his raw power. Thor himself stated he was fighting a lesser version of Kratos, He was actively trying to stop the fight as he was in it.
@@bigg221 You gotta keep in mind, it's pretty obvious this is a lesser version of Thor as well.
6:00 At that moment, Kratos became the god of peace. If he brutally killed Thor, then he would've still been the cold God of War and the norms would've proved their point about him anyway
One of the things I love about thor that not a lot of people see is that after Thor changes, we no longer see his face. Because in that moment his whole identity changed to something unknown to him until kratos's words affected him deep within: *Knowing that Kratos knows exactly what he's going through*
And when he listens to Odin in his past mindset, we see him and his face as Thor: the giant killer. But after turning back to Odin and putting his hammer down, he was just... *Thor*
6:56 while I haven’t played the game and just watched thor and Kratos fight, I enjoy this line. It’s like Thor found an equal, a brother in a sense. Someone who destroyed things as he did; the only difference was that Kratos killed his father and learned. Thor seemed like a tool from the tiny bit I saw, with no honest independent thoughts. He appeared very submissive; he didn’t talk to Kratos until Odin showed up, then when he finally got the chance to fight Kratos, he was more lively.
Thor didn’t believe he could change, he assumed he will stay a destroyer for all the things he’s done and he found someone who could have the same burden.
I think in his first fight against Kratos, an equal destroyer he did his best to bring it out of Kratos to prove that they can not change, and it will be who they are. Used Kratos as an example to tell himself that "There's nothing wrong with him."
Though Kratos had Faye who steered him away, Thor had Sif who somewhat encouraged/shared his anger
@@hightierscrub7166 Oh yeah Sif did. Seemed like everyone used him. I saw one scene where she guilt tripped Thor to try and kill Loki
@@superboyx2837 Not really. What Sif truly wanted is for Thor to see that Odin is the real enemy. But Thor was so desperate for a pat in the head from Odin that he misinterpreted Sif's words.
4:28 sb give this man an oscar for this amazing performance
8:30 -- Atreus realizing that Sif is now a single mother ;)
Bad timing
My man’s unlock the true god of thunder form 2:24
This is the Thor I wanted to see, the Thor that killed a giant the size of Cronos, god this game is a masterpiece
this thor what we saw he after fighting jorgumandr and he fight kratos.Truly mvp of asgard XD.This Thor would solo gods of olympious.
@@thereaper6061 not only Jormie, but majority of the armies of Ragnarök ás well
@@thereaper6061 nah he stops at hades
@@znocteditz i think he strong enought to resist hades weapon. Kratos told that Thor in his level at physically and durrability
@@HAMZA_OLYMPUS Ares is a joke.
2:16 is an underrated moment in this fight, kratos thinking ahead and countering mjolnir by wrapping the blades of chaos around the handle of it then whipping it back around
Yeah. He lift mjolnir like nothing with his blades. This make me think that blades of chaos are really the strongest weapons in greek and norse mitology
Put it in Give me a challenge and you obtain one of the hardest fights ever seen.
Not really. Kicked his ass easily. It wasn’t that hard at all.
Give me a challenge,pfft? Try on give me god of war
I finished the whole game on give me a challenge and i can safely say give me god of war is much harder lol
It's crazy how much detail there is. If you play the scene of kratos being hit 0:31 you see Thor going for a headshot, Kratos catches the hammer and takes off which is why Thor holds his head against it.
Wait I just realized Odin effortlessly picked up Mjolnir and chucked it at Thrud! Does that mean he is ridiculously strong?
Yes, he is the strongest one in the pantheon and killed Ymir, the father of all giants.
@@JD-xm4uf I know he is strong but I meant physical strength wise since the Mjolnir here is just really heavy
@@canyonfall1323 if it follows the myths mjolnir isn’t necessarily “heavy” more just really really powerful, that not many people can wield it. As we can see kraits struggles to handle its power. Odin is much more powerful than Thor so maybe that is why it is easy for him.
@@JD-xm4uf Ohhhh ok got it thank you
@@JD-xm4uf According to the Edda from Sturluson, Thor got 3 "magical things". Mjolnir, Megingiard (a belt which doubles his aesir strength) and Jarnglofar (which are some kind of gauntlets necessary to wield Mjolnir). But it looks like he has no special belt or gauntlets.
i wanted to see kratos and thor talking like friends more but he's gone :( i am sad
Same, they were about too then Odin no diff kills him like wtf? Wasted opportunity imo.
Anyone notice at 5:36 Kratos Screamed Like T.C Carson(Past Kratos)
Indeed. That's a sign that kratos is not holding back this time
@@amazingspiderman2963 yep.
I NOTICED
DAWG I GOT HYPED
Between the first fight and this one- they really didn’t let us down with how epic these two fighting are
I hope they bring him back in the next one... literally one of the best characters
A big far cry to the Kratos of the Greek Era who was a psychopathic man child who would kill and destroy everything in his path. Norse Era Kratos has really grown into a better man and a hero to all of Midgard and the Nine Realms.
Good character development. Greek Era is an Erik killmonger reminder. Proof of that time as a villain
@@ArkhamKnightChannel the character development was lazy lmao
@@nicholasbrown668 how was it lazy
He wouldn't kill and destroy everything in his path. Young Kratos was rage filled sure but he capable of reasoning. He ignored other people as long as they don't stand in his way. But greek being greek would rather step on his feet.
@@nicholasbrown668 in the Greek version?
5:36 Ayo, is that Younger Kratos' voice?
The bit where kratos starts running knowing that thor will come for him next is one of the coolest things in any video game, the intense music as kratos starts charging into the final stages of ragnarok
Can i just say Ryan Hurst's acting was incredibly on point? because hes so phenomenal
Thor seems like a calm and reasonable person
The thing that missed in Nordic GOW: back when the Olympians died, the nature also reacts to their death
Sine the nature of the norse pantheon is way different, it normal to see that they dont control anything in their lands, they are just leaders you can say, a leaders with the power to control and use magic, and even in their world they aren’t the higher power or the only rulers, this is why zeus mentioned how their lands and mountain was like one of its kind.
Baldur's death started fimbulwinter?
@@gg-jk5xd yeah death of baldur would trigger the winter, this is why after his death the menu of the game will have a white dots, and the world too, he even said “snow” as his last word.
Norse gods aren't as powerful as the Olympians...
That was greek this is Norse, both have different rules
6:08
Thor: What the f are you waiting for?
Kratos: Your daughter