One thing missed here is that the USA and South Vietnam didn't fight alone. The United States encouraged other nations to join them, first SEATO members and then through the Many Flags campaign. Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, South Korea, and Thailand all sent troops who saw combat. South Korea in particular sent over 300,000.
I’m filipino, and a college student who’s studying history as my major course, Viet Nam’s history along side with Philippine History is truly interesting and wonderful. Love Viet Nam🇻🇳❤️🇵🇭
PH history isnt as wonderful as Vietnam but i understand ur agenda on trying to romanticize ur own country even though this video is majorly all about Vietnam
@@leexingha hello, I relate the Philippines because I want to share my patriotism about my country. :)) I'm Filo-Viet, and I'm both proud of both country Viet Nam and the Philippines. :)))
Oversimplified is garbage at teaching actual history. Not necessarily his fault of course, his content is supposed to be over simplified. This is also technically oversimplified, but not to the same degree and it does a very good job.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588True, I love the creative and humor side in his video but the historical side he couldn’t achieve it, many wrong historical event and explanation in it. I know it is “oversimplified” but that doesn’t mean you can mess up and put in wrong history in it. Overall the main goal of the channel is educate viewers history, ofcource you can do it with your own way, funny, creative but if you fail to put in the REAL history so your channel is just the same as some western media, don’t know anything about history or maybe know it but just hide it and embrace the BEAUTIFUL side of their nation and talk bad about other nation (80% of “other nation” is Russia fr) (sorry if my english is bad)
@@legiahuy9436 Quote from you: "Many wrong historical event" and "you cant mess up". Ok, point taken and I believe many of us are willing to learn. So - then enlighten us - tell us where its wrong and what is your point of view and why. Having you here complaining without any evidence or corrections is cheap. If you know better - then tell us so we learn.
The whole period of time between French invasion and liberation in 1975 is seen as continuous war for the Vietnamese people. So it was over 100 year in total
Not KR （the whole KR thing is a distored narrative), Vietnam wants the whole Indochina, occupy cambodia control Laos until the collapse of USSR, while Soviet fleet stationed in Cam Ranh Bay.
@@thethaovatoquoc312 That's true but not until 1945. From 1940-5 the Vietnamese were fighting a guerrilla war against the Japanese garrison for that period.
I come from Vietnam, I'm always proud of my country's heroic history, I always wonder what foreigners think about my country's history, I accidentally saw your video on TH-cam, I didn't expect Other countries also know and care about my country's history, I thank you very much for your video
Great video! In my American public school history class, the history of Vietnam might as well have started about three seconds before the US got involved.
@@meiko_kajiusa lost only becouse of people and media. They told fake info about situation so people in usa though that american soliders are bad and north vietnam are poor people.
they lost the last one, and are now under a totalitarian dictatorship inspired at the time by the ussr and the CPC. there where 380 000 chinese troops in vietnam at the time. this was not the vietnamese fighting off an american invasion, it was america and china trying to get the country under their respective sphere of influence.
Video này cũng mị dân nhiều lắm. Ném bom mới mục đích ép miền bắc đàm phán hoà bình? Không. Quân đội Mỹ muốn huỷ diệt miền Bắc. Rất nhiều bắc sĩ y tá đã chết trong các cuộc ném bom. Bệnh viện và trường học cx bị ảnh hưởng nặng nề. Đó là hành động vô dân đạo trong chiến tranh. Hơn hết. Người Việt Nam tự có quyền quyết định vận mệnh dân tộc. Không ai mượn Mỹ vào đánh cộng sản cả.
21:30 From the perspective of a Vietnamese person who has learned about the history of war. I have a completely different view. In the general offensive in the summer of 1972, North Vietnam's main purpose was to gain advantage on the battlefield, wanting to hasten the United States into negotiations so that America could withdraw all its troops home. Vietnamese historians call it the tactic of "both fighting and negotiating", and they accept all costs on the battlefield, because the Vietnamese understand that while the Americans are here, the power of firepower of the South Vietnamese army will remain. This was one of the regular battles at the division level between the liberation army and the army of South Vietnam - both sides used tanks, artillery, and large infantry forces for the campaign, only the army The South was supported by the power of the US air force. If people around the world know the Vietnam War, they will mention the 1968 Tet General Offensive. But for Vietnamese people, it is certainly impossible to forget the "red summer of 1972" in war memories, in which the battle Quang Tri ancient citadel is a testament to the determination of the North Vietnamese army. The Northern Army was entrenched in this ancient citadel for 81 days and nights. The ancient citadel was only 25 hectares but suffered a terrible amount of bombs (estimated at about 120,000 tons of bombs, of which nearly 5,000 times by B52 aircraft spreading ). .
@@babisz8640.Vâng. tôi 1 người Việt 44 tuổi hiện đang sống ở Hà Nội sẽ trả lời câu hỏi của bạn.Việt Nam trong quá trình hình thành đã trải qua hàng nghìn năm chiến đấu vừa xây dựng vừa bảo vệ đất nước.Sau mỗi cuộc chiến là quá trình hàn gắn chiến tranh ,Cha ông chúng tôi không dạy chúng tôi lòng thù hận mà ngược lại dạy chúng tôi Đoàn Kết - Thương Yêu & Tha Thứ với kẻ thù.Nếu 1 có thể bạn hãy đến Việt Nam 1 lần sẽ thấy người dân Việt Nam chúng tôi ngày nay đối sử với người da trắng da đen hay những người nước ngoài như thế nào. Vâng chúng tôi mỉm cười với họ.
Nothing is hard to get. It calls “values”, mate. Vietnam and USA both saw the values and benefits that a great relationship between them could given. Anyway, Vietnamese doesn’t have any reputation for toxic hatred.
Những người Mỹ hiểu biết là chân chính giúp chúng tôi rất nhiều trong nhưng cuộc biểu tình. Giờ đây một vào người bạn đó làm chủ đất nước chúng tôi lại làm bạn. Với nhau
Personally, I think Vietnam's history is probably the most intriguing in the world because it's unique and unusual. The Mongols according to historians are still regarded as the mightiest, deadliest and most feared military force of all time even though they existed more than 8 centuries ago. The Mongol army of roughly 200,000 troops was able to wipe all the Chinese dynasties off the face of the earth and successfully conquered the entire China with a population of over 180 million people in the 13th century! With its unbeatable army, the mighty Mongol Empire peaked its power under the command of the legendary Mongol general and statesman Kublai Khan controlling roughly 28 million sq. km of territory from the Pacific Ocean to central Europe, which is 3 times as large as the land area of the present day China and almost double that of Great Russia. ""Marco Polo met Kublai Khan soon after arriving in Shangdu. He called the great Khan a "Lord of Lords" and "the most powerful man in people and in lands and in treasure that ever was in the world"". However, even the mighty Mongol Empire under the leadership of the "most powerful man in people and in lands" had been unable to conquer the teeny tiny Southeast Asian country known as Dai Viet [present day Vietnam] with a population of over 3 million! In the bloody Bach Dang River battle in 1288, the Vietnamese army led by the Vietnamese Prince Hung Dao triumphantly defeated the unbeatable Mongol army, twice its size and completely sank the entire fleet of Mongol giant warships. The Bach Dang River battle has been the outstanding and incomparable naval battle ultimately destroying the last Mongol invasion of Vietnam. The fact that the Vietnamese prince had fully understood the natural scientific phenomenon of the rising and falling tides of the Bach Dang River and placed the wooden stakes along the river bed to impale and destroy the Yuan China's naval fleet, is still a mystery challenging and intriguing modern historians' understanding. How could the Vietnamese ancestors known as the one and only people in human history more than 1,000 years ago, come up with such an ingenious and unique strategy to totally crush their powerful invaders especially the mightiest and deadliest Mongol army? In fact, the unbeatable Mongol army having been bitterly defeated not once, not twice but three times by the Vietnamese people in the 13th century, eventually ended Genghis Khan's dream of conquering the entire world and forever changed the course of the world history. Again in the 20th century, emulating his ancestor's battles on river against the invading great powers including the mighty Mongol Empire and the powerful Han Chinese dynasties over 600 years ago, the legendary Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap's Dien Bien Phu Battle on land against the French in 1954, finally brought an end to a 120 year domination of the French colonialism in Indochina, which eternally changed the course of human history leading to one of the bloodiest wars of the 20th century-the Vietnam War. In the Vietnam War known as the Great Patriotic War to the Vietnamese people to unify North and South Vietnam, the Ho Chi Minh Trail system is considered "one of the great achievements of 20th century military technology", according to the US National Security Agency. Military experts added, "The legendary Ho Chi Minh Trail running from North to South Vietnam, has been considered a strategic feat, and a unique phenomenon in contemporary world military history". The trail with the length of more than 20,000km (over 12,500 miles) cutting through forests and mountains, is a magnificent construction project in human military history. The Ho Chi Minh Trail is the symbol of the indomitable will of the Vietnamese people to determine to overcome all the brutality of war and all the deadly obstacles of harsh nature on the vast mountains and in the dense forests despite the fact that more than 20,000 Vietnamese soldiers had lost their lives, 6,000 are still missing in action, and more than 30,000 were seriously wounded to keep the vital trail open under the overwhelming pressure of more than 4 million tons of the carpet bombing by the B-52 aircraft. The Ho Chi Minh Trail represents the Vietnamese people's desire for the independence, freedom and unification of Vietnam. Things change and the world changes, but their iron will to unify their war-torn country as one nation, is forever engraved in stone. In the past, even after a 1,000-year domination, all the powerful Chinese Han dynasties had utterly bitterly failed to assimilate the Vietnamese into the Han Chinese. Even big and populous China with over 4.000 years, is still unable to conquer Vietnam. Vietnam is still Vietnam today standing tall. In his book Ending the Vietnam War in Vietnam, Henry Kissinger (RIP) - former US secretary of state and national security adviser wrote: "Since Vietnam, the concept of power has radically changed." "Vietnam represented a unique situation, geographically, ethnically, politically, militarily and diplomatically," he wrote in the memorandum, which was declassified in 1998.
Australians participated in the war in Vietnam at America's request. Now is a time of peace, I hope we can join hands to develop the two countries' economies
Đúng quái gì? Tất cả đều đúng trừ cái lúc mỹ và đến lúc mỹ ra là đéo đúng. Đánh rơi hàng trăm cái máy bay. Tốn tiền quá mới ngồi vào bàn đàm phán Video là lại kêu là người mỹ muốn hoà bình?
Somewhat biased video. The Vietnamese did not attack Catholics, they fought back against French Imperialism. It just so happens that most French happen to be Catholics. The French claimed they were protecting the rights of Catholics in Indochina as an excuse for the pretext of more military intervention and the expansion of the French empire.
Its the best you can get and ask from a Western TH-cam history channel. The bias and sympathy for their imperialism will always show no matter how hard they try.
It’s not mutually exclusive, Christianity and Islam as proselytizing religion have use missionary work as a means of conquest and political influence, doesn’t necessarily means their persecution is fully wanton
Vietnam does whatever he wants! only this country could have been so chad to win a war against USA, China, invading and conquering Cambodia all within approximately 10 years and without taking a break!
Campuchia không phải bị xâm lượt bởi Việt Nam ,người dân Camphuchia bị nạn diệt chủng và tổng Thống của họ trước đó đã cầu cứu quân đội Việt Nam và sau đó Pol pot (khơrme đỏ ) đã đánh sang biên giới Việt Nam ,Và Việt nam đã chống trả nạn diệt chủng của chúng và đã thành lập chính quyền Mới bởi ông Hunsen❤
Had the US went unlimited and unrestricted war in 3 months it would have been all over. Having served in Vietnam, I truly happy that didn’t occur. The people of Vietnam I found to be beautiful in every way. They done the best with what they had and I never saw them complain.
@@氨基酸近视several times. first of all, i know you are chinese and i have no intention of spreading hate. your country has a history of invading my country. in fact, most of my country's history are battles to defend the homeland against the north. the truth is china used to successfully occupied my country for 1000 years, but we kicked your ass and regained independence. If you don't believe me, search for "battle on bach dang river ngo quyen" and find it on google
Saying that the Taiping Rebellion “results in many deaths” is a massive understatement. It is often described as the bloodiest civil war in history. The most widely cited sources estimate the total number of deaths during the almost 14 years of the rebellion to be approximately 20 to 30 million civilians and soldiers. Most of the deaths were attributed to plague and famine. Some analysts have claimed that the death toll may have reached 100 million.
the video is trying to cover decades of history. it has to gloss over different moments with summaries. it identified that the most significant feature of the rebellion was the unusually high number of casualties, implying that the great casualty count would be the main reason anyone wants to study that conflict. sometimes broad overviews ''zoom in'' or ''zoom out'' in details, and it isn't always clear, but there's a sort of rhythm to when they're choosing to be more summary.
All your videos are so educational. I learned most of it in school but to VISUALLY SEE is on a MAP, CHRONOLOGICALLY organized and in a SUMMARIZED way is PRICELESS. Congratulations!!! Can you please make more videos on: Arab Spring, Evolution of Religions, Military Regimes in Latin THANK YOU TONS
I did a school presentation in history class about the Vietnam War and while everyone in my class thought about Rambo, I soon recognized to get the full picture I also had to include the Indochina War before it. Since those days, I always get annoyed when people still refer to Nixon/Kissinger as the team that „ended the war“, whereas it was them who actually extended it, and even ended up helping to bring the Khmer Rouge into power in Cambodia.
yep. the more you look you see how america will do anything for their interests. and you look at what they do to their own people and the world, and you see how the world itself is collapsing.
They defeated the French, US, China, and Pol Pot's Cambodia back to back and were the "good guy" in every single one of those conflicts. I'm in awe of the Vietnamese people and hopefully once all the Vietnam vets have passed away, it won't be such a touchy subject to label us as evil for everything we did to Vietnam. Also should've mentioned that the Gulf of Tonkin incident occurred due to blatant provocation by the US and was effectively a hoax to draw us in.
Rất tiếc phải nói với bạn điều này: chúng tôi (những thế hệ người Việt của thế kỷ 21) sẽ luôn trân trọng sự thật lịch sử, luôn ghi nhớ chiến công và những đau thương mất mát của cha ông chúng tôi, luôn ghi nhớ một lịch sử hào hùng của Việt Nam! Chúng tôi sẽ làm bạn và tha thứ cho tất cả mọi người, nhưng sự thật lịch sử về những nỗi đau thương của Việt Nam và TỘI ÁC của người Pháp, Mỹ, quân PolPot và quân xâm lược Trung Quốc gây ra cho Việt Nam sẽ còn được chúng tôi mãi mãi khắc ghi!
I know about it. The only person who suffered any long term consequences for it was the guy that tried to end it. Disgusting stain on US history. @@questionc9312
@@16aker history of deception? yeah if we created that then we ourselves will find it out by now, also we don't want to invade thailand, but we can do that. look at the battle of rạch gầm-xoài mút to see.
@@LHSMeleeClub Well the British try to warn French to leave and do like what they did in their colony. I guessing the French never gonna take the British advice.
@@LHSMeleeClubI mean, we're like forced to take communism. There was once a time where Ho Chi Minh and the OSS of the US had a nice relationship. I kinda wished for Roosevelt to stay alive until we had full independence, but Truman came along and ruined everything, leaving scars currently in Vietnam.
So difficult to find literally ANY information on this is America. Weather it be literature or in documentary. So much history and good information drowned in triva and the goings on of celebrities. Thank you for helping to keep knowledge alive. If I could ask for anything it would be where you get your information and learning from
Hi, some historians are working to make the researchs for each topics. But my original channel is in french so I take my information in french books and medias.
Nice detailed analysis. Now i know more about history of vietnam region. You should have added last part - about 5 min what was going on on vietnam between 1980 and today.
Sau khi thắng Mỹ 1975, campuchia tấn công vietnam đến tháng 12/1978 vietnam mới tấn công campuchia khi vietnam kiên trì đàm phán không thành, đầu năm 1979 trung quốc tấn công vietnam và đến 1989 mới có hòa bình thật sự trong thời gian đó Mỹ, EU bao vây cấm vận kinh tế và ủng hộ Fuzo trong nước để phá hoại đến 1995 đất nước mới dẹp xong và dần dần thoát khỏi bao vây cấm vận, thế giới còn nợ việt nam một lời xin lỗi.
Cambodia (pol pot) attack Vietnam because he afraid that vietnam will unified laos and Cambodia into a federation (like Soviet union) So He doesn't want his country to disappear, just like former Cambodian land in cochin china
it was. you probably don't know but Khmer Rouge massacred Vietnamese civilians around Vietnam-Cambodia border too. Vietnam tried to negotiated with them but Khmer Rouge declined. Later, they opened fire and launched mass-scale attack on the Southwestern borderline of Vietnam. In return, Vietnam pushed back and literally purged Khmer Rouge out of Cambodia. I would say this event benefit Cambodia a lot, though the UN considered Vietnam action was invasion.
honestly id say that the vietnam war should more widely be called the 2nd indochina war since the americans also involved themselves in civil wars in cambodi and laos
Appreciate the fact that the video explain the whole situation of Vietnam throughout the 3 wars in Indochina, and not just the war of Vietnam with US. Whenever people in the West talk about Vietnam War they usually talk about just the US invasion of Vietnam which doesn't explain anything and sometime give a completely different impression about the war.
Awesome video! Can you make a video about the Triple Alliance War? (Also known as the Paraguayan War) Or the River Plate's history since the arrival of the Europeans.
Really great content explaining so much! I love these videos. The only thing I might add is that a little topographical information on the maps might help. When looking at the shape of Vietnam and the Ho Chi Minh trail etc. I found myself wondering if this is just flatland, or there are mountains/hills along this line, or what. Reminds me of Peru cradling along the outside edge of a larger landmass.
À vâng nó không bằng phẳng .nó vốn dĩ là 1 dãy núi rất dài .ngoài ra nó còn có các con suối chắn ngang .bạn sẽ thấy người Việt Nam còn di chuyển các xe tải đi trên các dây thép vượt qua các con suối lớn để vận chuyển vũ khí con người từ Bắc vào Nam .nếu nó bằng phẳng thì Mỹ đã chả bó tay 😂😂 thậm chí Mỹ đã dùng các loại chất hóa học gây chết cây .và tạo mưa .các cơn mưa do Mỹ tạo ra gây ra vỡ đê đập và tạo ra cái chết cho vô số người dân vô tội .
Người Việt Nam chúng tôi rất trân trong tất cả các quốc gia trên thế giới và là bạn của tất cả các nước. Nhưng nếu bạn xâm lược chúng tôi thì sẽ là kẻ thù của tất cả người dân Việt Nam.
It's a road in the forest. They had to transport weapons at night without the lights on. Every driver should be able to run their way by feel. By the end of the war, the Americans still did not know what this road was like.
*As a Vietnamese, I feel happy when my country's history is popularized on social networks. Perhaps the world only knows Vietnam's history through the Vietnam War in the 20th century, and the three times the Mongols invaded Vietnam. In fact, over thousands of years, Vietnam has experienced many other battles*
Quite accurate about the prewar history and causes including China , Siam and her vassal states involvement in forming of French Indo-China. Unlike other channel who lacks of real knowledge.
there is quite a lot of inaccuracy but the video is the least American Bias I have ever seen. 1st the Tây Sơn Rebellion was started by 3 brothers whose family name is Nguyễn, the same as the ruling lord of Cochinchina, so the Clan was also Nguyễn and not Tây Sơn. 2nd, the Trịnh Forces did not ally themselves with the Tây Sơn, Nguyễn Nhạc the eldest brother submitted to the Trịnh lord in order to focus on the remnant of the Nguyễn Lord forces. 3rd, the Treaty of Versailles in 1887 stated that Nguyễn Ánh had to open Đà Nẳng(Tourane) for trade and not seize it to France, and Côn Đảo(Côn Island) and Quảng Nam which include Đà Nẳng were seized to France. 4th Đại Nam under French colonization was divided into 3 administration regions of Cochinchina, Annam, and Tonkin. Cochinchina was a fully-fledged French Colony, Annam was a protectorate, and Tonkin was half a colony and half a protectorate. 5th Bảo Đại had never attempted to reform the country as he might have known what happened to his ancestor Emperor Hàm Nghi the 8th Emperor of the Nguyễn Dynasty, he died exiled in Algeri and he was a twat that only care of his own pleasure as well.
I suggest you to do the Lam Son rebellion by the Later Lê dynasty in 1407. In my opinion this is the toughest and the hardest fight in the whole Vietnam histort, even more than the mongolia invasion. If you have time to do the research then i would highly suggest you to take a loôk about the Lam Sơn rebellion
I will always be surprised of the current relationship between the US and Vietnam and how they were able to reestablish and strengthen ties in the decades following the war
@@XXXTENTAClON227Sai lầm đau đớn sau thất bại ở Việt Nam của Hoa kỳ là bắt tay và thân thiết trung quốc quá mức trong những năm 1980-2000. Bài học từ Liên Xô không khiến Mỹ sáng mắt. 1 trung quốc bại liệt những năm 1930-1940,1 thằng đông á bệnh phu. Được sự trợ giúp từ Liên Xô mới có cơ hội trước hết là đẩy Nhật ra khỏi lãnh thổ và đuổi chính đồng minh Hoa kỳ ra đảo đài loan. Chỉ sau đấy hơn 10 năm trở mặt ngay với Liên Xô. Bài học quá đắt giá. Nếu những năm 1977-1978 mà Hoa kỳ bình thường hoá quan hệ và bồi thường chiến tranh cho Việt Nam thì hiện tại có phải kê cao gối nằm ngủ ngon về vấn đề của trung quốc hay không
:)) không có gì phải ngạc nhiên về điều đó cả. Chỉ cần tôn trọng lẫn nhau, không xâm phạm tới sự toàn vẹn lãnh thổ của nhau, hợp tác cùng phát triển thì Việt Nam sẽ làm bạn với tất cả các nước trên thế giới.
Awesome video. Top notch as always. I would love to see your take on the colonialisation of New Zealand, particularly the land wars between the colonial & British armies against the native Maori chiefs which occurred following the signing of The Treaty of Waitangi / Te Tiriti o Waitangi
Vietnam could have been a great ally of the US. As the video shows that they were never close to Cambodia or China and fought wars against them. But Ho Chi Min wanted independence and America supported them being a colony of France. If America had not supported France and then supported Vietnamese independence it could have all been different
Americans do not understand Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese people's ancestors have been fighting with China for 4,000 years non-stop. It was not until 1985 that Vietnam ended the war with China and the border was peaceful.
I read a book by a ww2 and Vietnam war veteran. I’m actually still reading it and so far I’ve learned that there was no real reason why we were there. We were not allowed to invade north Vietnam because that would trigger ww3 with the soviets and chinese. So we knew that but we still stayed knowing there would be no real peace. The CIA at the time played a big part of transfering 2 million north Vietnamese to the south because they were catholic which would fit the democratic society built by the SMM SAIGAN Military Mission an organization in the 50s that was sponsored by the CIA to do these transfers and change in Vietnamese society so that it would not be communist. Im still reading
Vâng ngày nay Mỹ và Phương Tây vẫn luôn dùng con bài Công Giáo này gây ra vô số các cuộc khơi mào chia rẽ dân tộc Việt Nam .và chúng đa số lại bị người dân theo Công Giáo dập tắt 😂😂 khi 1 số Cha sứ được tài trợ của CIA về rao giảng cách thức nổi loạn .giờ giới trẻ Việt Nam gần như bỏ cái tôn giáo này .còn dân chúng luôn trong trạng thái sẵn sàng dẹp bỏ bọn lợi dụng tôn giáo gây ra các cuộc chiến chia rẽ dân tộc .
Im Vietnamese living in the South and im really sad that i have to live in the Communist country 😢, we have no right to speak and the government will immediately arrest and put you in jail if you share some bad thing about them on social media even if it true😢 they have a group called “Red Bulls “ always talk s* about people in the south who flee to America after that war, they’re not teaching young generation the true story and called the war is American war rather than Viet nam war
Nước Mỹ hay cho mình là trung tâm thế giới, họ hay nhảy vào bất kỳ quốc gia nào. Họ tự cho mình quyền thay đổi quốc gia đó, vì họ cho rằng quốc gia đó xấu 😂. Hay tôn trọng thế giới xíu đi người Mỹ ah, vân mệnh nước chúng tôi do chúng tôi quyết, ai cũng có quyền tự do và mưu cầu hạnh phúc. Việt Nam đã chứng minh chúng tôi vẫn tự do tôn giáo, người Kitô giáo vẫn hoạt động bình thường. Hành động của Mỹ là không tôn trọng bất kỳ ai, và bây giờ Mỹ vân như z.
Nếu muốn biết mọi thứ bạn lên đi học chuyên sử, còn Lịch Sử dạy trong trường học nói chung là những giáo trình khái quát vì người Việt học cả lịch sử thế giới nữa chứ không chỉ học mỗi lịch sử Việt Nam thôi. Do đó rất dễ bỏ qua những cái tiểu tiết. Muốn tìm hiểu hết tất cả các sự kiện đã có những trường chuyên sử ở Việt Nam, hãy học ở đó.
If you want a list here it is North vietnam Allies: China and USSR, (obviously) Cuba, Laos and Cambodia, and North Korea South vietnam allies: United States, (also obvious) South Korea. Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, even Taiwan
Vietnam War was a civil war between the North Vietnamese Commie terrorists supported by global Commie giants Soviet and China, and the free and prosperous Republic of South Vietnam, just like the North Korean Commie terrorist state versus the free and prosperous Republic of South Korea. The US supported the right side, just like it helped Western Europe, including Germany, and Japan after WW2, and those nations have not only recovered but become economic powerhouses. For the same reason, however, the North Vietnamese Commie terrorists and their brainwashed minions have been very much different from the citizens of the free and prosperous Republic of South Vietnam. Therefore, it's an oversimplification and not really accurate assessment to categorize "Vietnamese" as 1 group.
Vì sự hi sinh cao cả đó của lào tôi tự hứa với bản thân,với tư cách là 1 người việt nam sẽ đối xử tốt nhất có thể và coi người lào như anh em ruột thịt của tôi. Xin gửi tình yêu của tôi đến tất cả các bạn lào ❤
Pretty good video but I'm annoyed at how the invasion of Cambodia was presented. How could you left out the fact that VN troop had to do something about the Khmer rouge. They killed millions of their own people and started killing Vietnamese along the border too. What other choice did they have
@@cjthebeeskneesPolpot Rogue kill about 2 millions people. About 1/4 populations off Cambodia. Then Polpot Rogue kill my people. We know that we must fight for my country and fight for Cambodia's people. But all country in the world said we invaded Cambodia. That so sad but we don't care because in my people have what things we must to do
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 We're currently a pre-socialist state, which is a state that capitalism have to go through to evolve to socialism. It's in the theory of communism: Prehistoric->ancient->monarchy->capitalism->socialism->communism
would you be able to add the deail around the nixon campaigns sabotaging of Johnson peace talks in 19689 through Kissinger? Its a vital piece of context.
i love that you mention Paracel and Spratly islands at the end. Those island was ceded by Nguyen dynasty, then they were controled by French colony government. After Dien Bien Phu battle, they were controled by South Vietnam. So in logical, they should be belong to Vietnam not China. Because China didn't declare a formal war to South Vietnam or North Vietnam, and no one recognized China's owned them in any treaty.
@@凌雪雪 Lại nhai đi nhai lại về cái gọi là "từ thời cổ đại" và một tên Trịnh Hoà vớ vẩn nào đó rồi. Chẳng lẽ chỉ có người Trung Hoa bọn mày mới biết đi thuyền sao? Người Việt đã đi biển, đánh cá ở khu vực này hơn 1500 năm trước khi nhà Tần chiếm được miền Nam Trung Quốc ngày nay. Các triều đại Lý, Trần Lê đã tiếp quản Hoàng Sa, Triều đại Lê, Nguyễn đã tiếp quản Trường Sa, các bản đồ của người Việt và ngươit Phương Tây khi giao thương với Việt Nam cũng đã vẽ lãnh thổ đó là của người Việt. Các bản đồ của Trung Quốc, thời nhà Thanh lãnh thổ cũng chỉ đến cực nam của đảo Hải Nam, đến thời Tưởng Giới Thạch tự tiện vẽ một đường 11 đoạn thì từ đó là "lãnh thổ của Trung Quốc từ thời cổ đại" 😂😂😂😂 Lúc Việt Nam có người lưu trú ở Hoàng Sa thì cụ tổ 7 đời của Trịnh Hoà các người còn chưa đẻ. Mới nứt mắt ra đi dạo một vòng bé xíu đã dám tuyên bố là lãnh thổ của mình. Giờ này chắc Mặt Trời, Mặt Trăng, Sao Hoả, cũng là của Trung Quốc vì họ đã quan sát thấy nó cách đây từ " thời cổ đại" 😂😂😂. Với cái tính cách tham lam, trơ trẽn, ngu dốt, bảo thủ, bần tiện của nhân dân Trung Hoa như vậy, nên cả thế giới loài người từ Đông sang Tây, từ Bắc đến Nam, từ hàng xóm thân cận đến những nước ở xa xôi, cứ nhìn cứ nghe đến hai chữ "Trung Quốc", "China" là nghĩ ngay đến sự kinh tởm, khốn nạn. Đừng trách người, hãy tự nhìn lại mình. 😂😅
Just a suggestion, add some older history and title it The History of Vietnam or just title the video History of Vietnam since 1700 and just start there to sound more organized. Still well done. I love all your videos! Please post more if you can 🙏. I have a lot of suggestions for you if you’re interested.
Super vidéo, franchement c'est difficile de trouver un aussi bon résumé sur ce topic sur TH-cam. J'ai hate de voir tes prochains sujets ! Y'a un endroit pour en discuter ? (Reddit, Twitter ou Insta ?) Petite critique cependant, je trouve que les meffets de la colonisation française n'ont pas été assez abordés, et j'avoue que les guerres contre le Cambodge et la Chine auraient peut etre mérité un peu plus de développement. Continue comme ça !
Merci, j'ai un compte twitter mais qui n'est pas très actif. En fait je ne suis pas très disponible en général, je préfère me concentrer sur les prochaines vidéos. Merci aussi pour les critiques, je note pour les prochaines vidéos.
I notice a wrong representation of territory in the map of Vietnam and Thailand during the 1800's time period. The reign of Minh Mang (Nguyen Dynasty) at the height of there power they had control over half of Laos if not all of it except for the western territories from Siam and half of Cambodia. There has been shown physical old map documented from France, Vietnam and China showing the extent of Dai Nam's empire and power under Minh Mạng's rule, again it shows most of Laos and the western part of the half was Thailand's. There was a long war going on during this time period with Siam (Thailand) and Dai Nam (Vietnam) over the control of Khmer's fragmented empire.. The southern territory of Vietnam did have control over half of Cambodia when the Khmer empire was weak. That is why France was able to take over Laos and Cambodia without much of a fight from both Cambodia or Laos because they were basically split into half under the rule of both Vietnam and Thailand during that period. It was later on when Vietnam was fighting with France that Thailand came in and took most of Laos territory away from Vietnam but that was very short lived because France came in and took it over like how this video shows us at around 8:10 in the video explains it. So most of Laos was under Vietnam's rule before France came in but of course France took more territory than what it really was from Siam when they made that treaty with Siam for control of Laos. I am not discrediting this video by any means but a little more better accuracy could have made this video much better.
Vietnamese territory under the Nguyen Dynasty actually included a significant part of Cambodia. After saving the Khmer people from genocide, Vietnam returned their land according to the territorial division established during the French colonial period. Today, Cambodians often claim that Vietnam has occupied their land, but they do not make similar accusations against Thailand. They criticized the interventionists who overthrew Pol Pot and rescued their people, Young Cambodians are being influenced by political parties, expressing a desire to reclaim all of South Vietnam, which seems absurd. There is a strong aversion towards the Vietnamese people in Cambodia. Interestingly, they appear to accept China, the same country that supported Pol Pot.
One thing missed here is that the USA and South Vietnam didn't fight alone. The United States encouraged other nations to join them, first SEATO members and then through the Many Flags campaign. Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, South Korea, and Thailand all sent troops who saw combat. South Korea in particular sent over 300,000.
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@@duongaudio9999 ökr dën shröffël ärp där mös?
You are a person of wisdom and understanding
North Vietnam too, Soviet+CCP+North Korea+Cuba... As a main point US did betrayed South Vietnam
I’m filipino, and a college student who’s studying history as my major course, Viet Nam’s history along side with Philippine History is truly interesting and wonderful. Love Viet Nam🇻🇳❤️🇵🇭
Philippines 🇵🇭 in my heart ❤️ 😊
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Let's be proud that we are Southeast Asians
PH history isnt as wonderful as Vietnam but i understand ur agenda on trying to romanticize ur own country even though this video is majorly all about Vietnam
@@leexingha hello, I relate the Philippines because I want to share my patriotism about my country. :)) I'm Filo-Viet, and I'm both proud of both country Viet Nam and the Philippines. :)))
Oversimplified took too long to make a video about the Vietnam War, so Geo History did it.
Oversimplified is garbage at teaching actual history. Not necessarily his fault of course, his content is supposed to be over simplified. This is also technically oversimplified, but not to the same degree and it does a very good job.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588True, I love the creative and humor side in his video but the historical side he couldn’t achieve it, many wrong historical event and explanation in it. I know it is “oversimplified” but that doesn’t mean you can mess up and put in wrong history in it. Overall the main goal of the channel is educate viewers history, ofcource you can do it with your own way, funny, creative but if you fail to put in the REAL history so your channel is just the same as some western media, don’t know anything about history or maybe know it but just hide it and embrace the BEAUTIFUL side of their nation and talk bad about other nation (80% of “other nation” is Russia fr) (sorry if my english is bad)
@legiahuy9436 yes, indeed.
Hasn’t been a new oversimplified video in ages.
@@legiahuy9436 Quote from you: "Many wrong historical event" and "you cant mess up". Ok, point taken and I believe many of us are willing to learn. So - then enlighten us - tell us where its wrong and what is your point of view and why. Having you here complaining without any evidence or corrections is cheap. If you know better - then tell us so we learn.
Love Vietnam from Serbia 🇻🇳❤️🇷🇸
thank bro
wish you all the best from Vietnam
Victims of US imperialism unites. Kosovo belongs to Serbia
Thank you
@@Rockypawpatrol-h7u you are Welcome to Serbia My Friend 🇷🇸🤝🇻🇳
Fighting off France, USA, China, and the Khmer Rouge, in near-uninterrupted war for 50 years. Astonishing
As well as Japan before that in a guerilla war.
The whole period of time between French invasion and liberation in 1975 is seen as continuous war for the Vietnamese people. So it was over 100 year in total
Not KR （the whole KR thing is a distored narrative), Vietnam wants the whole Indochina, occupy cambodia control Laos until the collapse of USSR, while Soviet fleet stationed in Cam Ranh Bay.
@@cherryslat5702 Nah, Japan force was taken over by French force in Vietnam after US nuked Japan cities.
@@thethaovatoquoc312 That's true but not until 1945. From 1940-5 the Vietnamese were fighting a guerrilla war against the Japanese garrison for that period.
Love Vietnam 🇻🇳 from Jamaica 🇯🇲
I also love Jamaica and Cuba and nations at Caribbean❤
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Thanks you
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Love Jamaica from Vietnam
I come from Vietnam, I'm always proud of my country's heroic history, I always wonder what foreigners think about my country's history, I accidentally saw your video on TH-cam, I didn't expect Other countries also know and care about my country's history, I thank you very much for your video
Great video! In my American public school history class, the history of Vietnam might as well have started about three seconds before the US got involved.
Liberal activist boomers grew up and wrote the history curriculum and made the pop culture.
One can’t be too surprised the retelling is abysmal.
@@meiko_kajiusa lost only becouse of people and media. They told fake info about situation so people in usa though that american soliders are bad and north vietnam are poor people.
@@polandball122plEverything is within the plan of the North Vietnamese leaders, including manipulation American media
Yeah you were taught American history in American public school why wouldn't they?
So true. We get such an impoverished education on history in school. You have to actively search if you want the full story.
I'm from Vietnam and i've been a big fan of your channel for a very long time
Great country with good people.
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you need going vietnam u can feel happy in here
Why do you have Vichy France profile picture?
@@skontejonte Not Vichy but Free France flag. It is the cross of Lorraine.
@@jacques8221 oh ok, my mistake. Thanks for correcting me
This video proves how Undefeated Vietnam is
they lost the last one, and are now under a totalitarian dictatorship inspired at the time by the ussr and the CPC. there where 380 000 chinese troops in vietnam at the time. this was not the vietnamese fighting off an american invasion, it was america and china trying to get the country under their respective sphere of influence.
I am Vietnamese and I am extremely proud of this.
proud of death?
@@FrazerHatyaino , proud of victory baby
Victory against south Vietnam? are you from the north?@@1000trilliondollars
Video này cũng mị dân nhiều lắm.
Ném bom mới mục đích ép miền bắc đàm phán hoà bình?
Không. Quân đội Mỹ muốn huỷ diệt miền Bắc.
Rất nhiều bắc sĩ y tá đã chết trong các cuộc ném bom.
Bệnh viện và trường học cx bị ảnh hưởng nặng nề.
Đó là hành động vô dân đạo trong chiến tranh.
Hơn hết. Người Việt Nam tự có quyền quyết định vận mệnh dân tộc. Không ai mượn Mỹ vào đánh cộng sản cả.
@mười tỷ 4418.
21:30 From the perspective of a Vietnamese person who has learned about the history of war. I have a completely different view. In the general offensive in the summer of 1972, North Vietnam's main purpose was to gain advantage on the battlefield, wanting to hasten the United States into negotiations so that America could withdraw all its troops home. Vietnamese historians call it the tactic of "both fighting and negotiating", and they accept all costs on the battlefield, because the Vietnamese understand that while the Americans are here, the power of firepower of the South Vietnamese army will remain. This was one of the regular battles at the division level between the liberation army and the army of South Vietnam - both sides used tanks, artillery, and large infantry forces for the campaign, only the army The South was supported by the power of the US air force. If people around the world know the Vietnam War, they will mention the 1968 Tet General Offensive. But for Vietnamese people, it is certainly impossible to forget the "red summer of 1972" in war memories, in which the battle Quang Tri ancient citadel is a testament to the determination of the North Vietnamese army. The Northern Army was entrenched in this ancient citadel for 81 days and nights. The ancient citadel was only 25 hectares but suffered a terrible amount of bombs (estimated at about 120,000 tons of bombs, of which nearly 5,000 times by B52 aircraft spreading ). .
Hi there, If I may ask, how does all those senior Vietnamese war heroes feel about Franch and/or Americans today ? btw im european but not French
@@babisz8640.Vâng. tôi 1 người Việt 44 tuổi hiện đang sống ở Hà Nội sẽ trả lời câu hỏi của bạn.Việt Nam trong quá trình hình thành đã trải qua hàng nghìn năm chiến đấu vừa xây dựng vừa bảo vệ đất nước.Sau mỗi cuộc chiến là quá trình hàn gắn chiến tranh ,Cha ông chúng tôi không dạy chúng tôi lòng thù hận mà ngược lại dạy chúng tôi Đoàn Kết - Thương Yêu & Tha Thứ với kẻ thù.Nếu 1 có thể bạn hãy đến Việt Nam 1 lần sẽ thấy người dân Việt Nam chúng tôi ngày nay đối sử với người da trắng da đen hay những người nước ngoài như thế nào. Vâng chúng tôi mỉm cười với họ.
And to think that the US and Vietnam are now somewhat cool with each other, that I still can’t get over. Great video
Nothing is hard to get. It calls “values”, mate.
Vietnam and USA both saw the values and benefits that a great relationship between them could given. Anyway, Vietnamese doesn’t have any reputation for toxic hatred.
Những người Mỹ hiểu biết là chân chính giúp chúng tôi rất nhiều trong nhưng cuộc biểu tình. Giờ đây một vào người bạn đó làm chủ đất nước chúng tôi lại làm bạn. Với nhau
FACT: "The biggest fear of a true Vietnamese is the fear of losing country"
Personally, I think Vietnam's history is probably the most intriguing in the world because it's unique and unusual. The Mongols according to historians are still regarded as the mightiest, deadliest and most feared military force of all time even though they existed more than 8 centuries ago. The Mongol army of roughly 200,000 troops was able to wipe all the Chinese dynasties off the face of the earth and successfully conquered the entire China with a population of over 180 million people in the 13th century! With its unbeatable army, the mighty Mongol Empire peaked its power under the command of the legendary Mongol general and statesman Kublai Khan controlling roughly 28 million sq. km of territory from the Pacific Ocean to central Europe, which is 3 times as large as the land area of the present day China and almost double that of Great Russia. ""Marco Polo met Kublai Khan soon after arriving in Shangdu. He called the great Khan a "Lord of Lords" and "the most powerful man in people and in lands and in treasure that ever was in the world"". However, even the mighty Mongol Empire under the leadership of the "most powerful man in people and in lands" had been unable to conquer the teeny tiny Southeast Asian country known as Dai Viet [present day Vietnam] with a population of over 3 million! In the bloody Bach Dang River battle in 1288, the Vietnamese army led by the Vietnamese Prince Hung Dao triumphantly defeated the unbeatable Mongol army, twice its size and completely sank the entire fleet of Mongol giant warships. The Bach Dang River battle has been the outstanding and incomparable naval battle ultimately destroying the last Mongol invasion of Vietnam. The fact that the Vietnamese prince had fully understood the natural scientific phenomenon of the rising and falling tides of the Bach Dang River and placed the wooden stakes along the river bed to impale and destroy the Yuan China's naval fleet, is still a mystery challenging and intriguing modern historians' understanding. How could the Vietnamese ancestors known as the one and only people in human history more than 1,000 years ago, come up with such an ingenious and unique strategy to totally crush their powerful invaders especially the mightiest and deadliest Mongol army? In fact, the unbeatable Mongol army having been bitterly defeated not once, not twice but three times by the Vietnamese people in the 13th century, eventually ended Genghis Khan's dream of conquering the entire world and forever changed the course of the world history. Again in the 20th century, emulating his ancestor's battles on river against the invading great powers including the mighty Mongol Empire and the powerful Han Chinese dynasties over 600 years ago, the legendary Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap's Dien Bien Phu Battle on land against the French in 1954, finally brought an end to a 120 year domination of the French colonialism in Indochina, which eternally changed the course of human history leading to one of the bloodiest wars of the 20th century-the Vietnam War. In the Vietnam War known as the Great Patriotic War to the Vietnamese people to unify North and South Vietnam, the Ho Chi Minh Trail system is considered "one of the great achievements of 20th century military technology", according to the US National Security Agency. Military experts added, "The legendary Ho Chi Minh Trail running from North to South Vietnam, has been considered a strategic feat, and a unique phenomenon in contemporary world military history". The trail with the length of more than 20,000km (over 12,500 miles) cutting through forests and mountains, is a magnificent construction project in human military history. The Ho Chi Minh Trail is the symbol of the indomitable will of the Vietnamese people to determine to overcome all the brutality of war and all the deadly obstacles of harsh nature on the vast mountains and in the dense forests despite the fact that more than 20,000 Vietnamese soldiers had lost their lives, 6,000 are still missing in action, and more than 30,000 were seriously wounded to keep the vital trail open under the overwhelming pressure of more than 4 million tons of the carpet bombing by the B-52 aircraft. The Ho Chi Minh Trail represents the Vietnamese people's desire for the independence, freedom and unification of Vietnam. Things change and the world changes, but their iron will to unify their war-torn country as one nation, is forever engraved in stone. In the past, even after a 1,000-year domination, all the powerful Chinese Han dynasties had utterly bitterly failed to assimilate the Vietnamese into the Han Chinese. Even big and populous China with over 4.000 years, is still unable to conquer Vietnam. Vietnam is still Vietnam today standing tall. In his book Ending the Vietnam War in Vietnam, Henry Kissinger (RIP) - former US secretary of state and national security adviser wrote: "Since Vietnam, the concept of power has radically changed." "Vietnam represented a unique situation, geographically, ethnically, politically, militarily and diplomatically," he wrote in the memorandum, which was declassified in 1998.
This is one of the best videos about history I have ever seen.
Thank you, and have a nice day 🖐🏼👴🏼
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Hello from Australia! May all those who lost their lives in the Indochina wars and the later Vietnam war rest in peace.
The vietnam war was one of the the indochina wars
@@zero95lucky Yeah, I realised after Whatching this video when it Premiered.
Australians participated in the war in Vietnam at America's request. Now is a time of peace, I hope we can join hands to develop the two countries' economies
@khaitruong2157 Oh yes, I am very aware of how the United States requested us Aussies to help in the Vietnam war
As a vietnamese, I would say this video is 100% correct
Đúng quái gì?
Tất cả đều đúng trừ cái lúc mỹ và đến lúc mỹ ra là đéo đúng.
Đánh rơi hàng trăm cái máy bay. Tốn tiền quá mới ngồi vào bàn đàm phán
Video là lại kêu là người mỹ muốn hoà bình?
Somewhat biased video. The Vietnamese did not attack Catholics, they fought back against French Imperialism. It just so happens that most French happen to be Catholics. The French claimed they were protecting the rights of Catholics in Indochina as an excuse for the pretext of more military intervention and the expansion of the French empire.
I think they talking about those Romans that were part of the Qin and the Fujian dynasty. Or the ones from the Spanish Empire.
Its the best you can get and ask from a Western TH-cam history channel. The bias and sympathy for their imperialism will always show no matter how hard they try.
It’s not mutually exclusive, Christianity and Islam as proselytizing religion have use missionary work as a means of conquest and political influence, doesn’t necessarily means their persecution is fully wanton
Wow that awesome bro I love history vietnam 🇺🇸❤️🇻🇳
Vietnam does whatever he wants! only this country could have been so chad to win a war against USA, China, invading and conquering Cambodia all within approximately 10 years and without taking a break!
Campuchia không phải bị xâm lượt bởi Việt Nam ,người dân Camphuchia bị nạn diệt chủng và tổng Thống của họ trước đó đã cầu cứu quân đội Việt Nam và sau đó Pol pot (khơrme đỏ ) đã đánh sang biên giới Việt Nam ,Và Việt nam đã chống trả nạn diệt chủng của chúng và đã thành lập chính quyền Mới bởi ông Hunsen❤
Did Vietnam win the war in China.
@@氨基酸近视 it seems. China retreated. And the government remained there so...
Had the US went unlimited and unrestricted war in 3 months it would have been all over. Having served in Vietnam, I truly happy that didn’t occur. The people of Vietnam I found to be beautiful in every way. They done the best with what they had and I never saw them complain.
@@氨基酸近视several times.
first of all, i know you are chinese and i have no intention of spreading hate.
your country has a history of invading my country. in fact, most of my country's history are battles to defend the homeland against the north. the truth is china used to successfully occupied my country for 1000 years, but we kicked your ass and regained independence.
If you don't believe me, search for "battle on bach dang river ngo quyen" and find it on google
Saying that the Taiping Rebellion “results in many deaths” is a massive understatement.
It is often described as the bloodiest civil war in history. The most widely cited sources estimate the total number of deaths during the almost 14 years of the rebellion to be approximately 20 to 30 million civilians and soldiers. Most of the deaths were attributed to plague and famine. Some analysts have claimed that the death toll may have reached 100 million.
dude, this video is about Vietnam... not China
do you just watch videos waiting to nitpick something? what would you prefer they say?
@@Andrew-fr2bq I just pointed out it’s a pretty massive understatement. You can see that people agree with me. It’s not like it actually annoyed me.
the video is trying to cover decades of history. it has to gloss over different moments with summaries. it identified that the most significant feature of the rebellion was the unusually high number of casualties, implying that the great casualty count would be the main reason anyone wants to study that conflict.
sometimes broad overviews ''zoom in'' or ''zoom out'' in details, and it isn't always clear, but there's a sort of rhythm to when they're choosing to be more summary.
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All your videos are so educational. I learned most of it in school but to VISUALLY SEE is on a MAP, CHRONOLOGICALLY organized and in a SUMMARIZED way is PRICELESS. Congratulations!!!
Can you please make more videos on: Arab Spring, Evolution of Religions, Military Regimes in Latin
THANK YOU TONS
You sound like you got a shovel up your skrop sideways 😭
I did a school presentation in history class about the Vietnam War and while everyone in my class thought about Rambo, I soon recognized to get the full picture I also had to include the Indochina War before it. Since those days, I always get annoyed when people still refer to Nixon/Kissinger as the team that „ended the war“, whereas it was them who actually extended it, and even ended up helping to bring the Khmer Rouge into power in Cambodia.
yep. the more you look you see how america will do anything for their interests. and you look at what they do to their own people and the world, and you see how the world itself is collapsing.
They defeated the French, US, China, and Pol Pot's Cambodia back to back and were the "good guy" in every single one of those conflicts. I'm in awe of the Vietnamese people and hopefully once all the Vietnam vets have passed away, it won't be such a touchy subject to label us as evil for everything we did to Vietnam.
Also should've mentioned that the Gulf of Tonkin incident occurred due to blatant provocation by the US and was effectively a hoax to draw us in.
My Lai massacre
pls search it
Rất tiếc phải nói với bạn điều này: chúng tôi (những thế hệ người Việt của thế kỷ 21) sẽ luôn trân trọng sự thật lịch sử, luôn ghi nhớ chiến công và những đau thương mất mát của cha ông chúng tôi, luôn ghi nhớ một lịch sử hào hùng của Việt Nam! Chúng tôi sẽ làm bạn và tha thứ cho tất cả mọi người, nhưng sự thật lịch sử về những nỗi đau thương của Việt Nam và TỘI ÁC của người Pháp, Mỹ, quân PolPot và quân xâm lược Trung Quốc gây ra cho Việt Nam sẽ còn được chúng tôi mãi mãi khắc ghi!
I know about it. The only person who suffered any long term consequences for it was the guy that tried to end it. Disgusting stain on US history. @@questionc9312
defeat China? You sure? 😂 you know how many Vietnamese were killed in the 10 year conflict with China?
Vietnam will not bow to any oppressors neither Asian nor Europeans.
With high respect from your neighbor. ❤️ 🇻🇳
But they failed to invade Thailand and created history of deception.
@@16aker what are you talking about? History of deception? Please elaborate.
@@16akerbruh they never tried to invade thailand though
@@16aker history of deception? yeah if we created that then we ourselves will find it out by now, also we don't want to invade thailand, but we can do that. look at the battle of rạch gầm-xoài mút to see.
Thailand chỉ là 1 con bọ đối với VN dẫm phát bẹp dí chỉ là tha thứ thôi
Arguably one of the most impressive win streaks in history, I don’t like communists but I absolutely give all my props to Vietnam, absolute madlads.
It is sad though because it seems like they only chose communism as a vector for their independence from the French and other Western powers
@@LHSMeleeClub Well the British try to warn French to leave and do like what they did in their colony.
I guessing the French never gonna take the British advice.
Yeah, Vietnam won high corruption, exploitation, pollution and poverty. What a win!
Thanks!
@@LHSMeleeClubI mean, we're like forced to take communism. There was once a time where Ho Chi Minh and the OSS of the US had a nice relationship. I kinda wished for Roosevelt to stay alive until we had full independence, but Truman came along and ruined everything, leaving scars currently in Vietnam.
This man deserves 1 million subscribers
He doesn't post often, but whenever he does, he sure amazes us.
So difficult to find literally ANY information on this is America. Weather it be literature or in documentary. So much history and good information drowned in triva and the goings on of celebrities. Thank you for helping to keep knowledge alive. If I could ask for anything it would be where you get your information and learning from
Hi, some historians are working to make the researchs for each topics. But my original channel is in french so I take my information in french books and medias.
@@GeoHistoryYou're from Wallonia? I'm from Flanders
You should read history books. America has them, I promise
@@TorreFLoeckx I'm from Brussels
Nice detailed analysis. Now i know more about history of vietnam region. You should have added last part - about 5 min what was going on on vietnam between 1980 and today.
Sau khi thắng Mỹ 1975, campuchia tấn công vietnam đến tháng 12/1978 vietnam mới tấn công campuchia khi vietnam kiên trì đàm phán không thành, đầu năm 1979 trung quốc tấn công vietnam và đến 1989 mới có hòa bình thật sự trong thời gian đó Mỹ, EU bao vây cấm vận kinh tế và ủng hộ Fuzo trong nước để phá hoại đến 1995 đất nước mới dẹp xong và dần dần thoát khỏi bao vây cấm vận, thế giới còn nợ việt nam một lời xin lỗi.
I was looking for a video like this thank you! :))
idol:))
❤
Deposing the Cambodian horror is one of the best things Vietnam has ever done, although it probably wasn't because of the horrors
It wasn’t.
Cambodia (pol pot) attack Vietnam because he afraid that vietnam will unified laos and Cambodia into a federation (like Soviet union) So He doesn't want his country to disappear, just like former Cambodian land in cochin china
这不是越南入侵的理由。
it was.
you probably don't know but Khmer Rouge massacred Vietnamese civilians around Vietnam-Cambodia border too. Vietnam tried to negotiated with them but Khmer Rouge declined. Later, they opened fire and launched mass-scale attack on the Southwestern borderline of Vietnam. In return, Vietnam pushed back and literally purged Khmer Rouge out of Cambodia. I would say this event benefit Cambodia a lot, though the UN considered Vietnam action was invasion.
Guess who brought the horrors to Cambodians? You guessed it - The VIETCONG & Khmer Rouge. Isn't it like the dog biting it's tail?
A very detailed video. Many things I did not know yet. Thank you very much!
honestly id say that the vietnam war should more widely be called the 2nd indochina war since the americans also involved themselves in civil wars in cambodi and laos
Appreciate the fact that the video explain the whole situation of Vietnam throughout the 3 wars in Indochina, and not just the war of Vietnam with US. Whenever people in the West talk about Vietnam War they usually talk about just the US invasion of Vietnam which doesn't explain anything and sometime give a completely different impression about the war.
Awesome video! Can you make a video about the Triple Alliance War? (Also known as the Paraguayan War) Or the River Plate's history since the arrival of the Europeans.
Or maybe the Russians
@@Elisey_sibirwait till the wars over
Yay, I can finally watch a new video!
Really great content explaining so much! I love these videos. The only thing I might add is that a little topographical information on the maps might help. When looking at the shape of Vietnam and the Ho Chi Minh trail etc. I found myself wondering if this is just flatland, or there are mountains/hills along this line, or what. Reminds me of Peru cradling along the outside edge of a larger landmass.
À vâng nó không bằng phẳng .nó vốn dĩ là 1 dãy núi rất dài .ngoài ra nó còn có các con suối chắn ngang .bạn sẽ thấy người Việt Nam còn di chuyển các xe tải đi trên các dây thép vượt qua các con suối lớn để vận chuyển vũ khí con người từ Bắc vào Nam .nếu nó bằng phẳng thì Mỹ đã chả bó tay 😂😂 thậm chí Mỹ đã dùng các loại chất hóa học gây chết cây .và tạo mưa .các cơn mưa do Mỹ tạo ra gây ra vỡ đê đập và tạo ra cái chết cho vô số người dân vô tội .
That would be neat.
Người Việt Nam chúng tôi rất trân trong tất cả các quốc gia trên thế giới và là bạn của tất cả các nước. Nhưng nếu bạn xâm lược chúng tôi thì sẽ là kẻ thù của tất cả người dân Việt Nam.
Yes all the muontians about 70%pl
It's a road in the forest. They had to transport weapons at night without the lights on. Every driver should be able to run their way by feel. By the end of the war, the Americans still did not know what this road was like.
GEO HISTORY FINALLY DROPPED A VID LETS GOO
*As a Vietnamese, I feel happy when my country's history is popularized on social networks. Perhaps the world only knows Vietnam's history through the Vietnam War in the 20th century, and the three times the Mongols invaded Vietnam. In fact, over thousands of years, Vietnam has experienced many other battles*
Very informative video. I will watch it multiple times. Thank you for the hard work on this high quality program.
Vietnam is a pretty good topic Oversimplified could have done but failed to do so.
Amazing video, I subscribed! Have a nice day admin!
This video was very cool! Very well made as usual. You probably won't see this, but could you do a history of the UK/England? I would love it!
Thank you ! I saw it and will remember your request. But I have several other topics that I would like to finish before.
@@GeoHistory Oh wow, you did see it. Fair enough, excited for your future projects!
@@GeoHistoryyou forgot Thailand
Agreed! These videos are awesome.
Very good summary. I only missed a more explicit mention of Pol Pot.
Quite accurate about the prewar history and causes including China , Siam and her vassal states involvement in forming of French Indo-China. Unlike other channel who lacks of real knowledge.
This is such a great video, good job!
Missing quite a bit on the British efforts in Vietnam and why they ended up leaving shortly after regaining control.
Because it wasn’t their colony? Lmao
there is quite a lot of inaccuracy but the video is the least American Bias I have ever seen. 1st the Tây Sơn Rebellion was started by 3 brothers whose family name is Nguyễn, the same as the ruling lord of Cochinchina, so the Clan was also Nguyễn and not Tây Sơn. 2nd, the Trịnh Forces did not ally themselves with the Tây Sơn, Nguyễn Nhạc the eldest brother submitted to the Trịnh lord in order to focus on the remnant of the Nguyễn Lord forces. 3rd, the Treaty of Versailles in 1887 stated that Nguyễn Ánh had to open Đà Nẳng(Tourane) for trade and not seize it to France, and Côn Đảo(Côn Island) and Quảng Nam which include Đà Nẳng were seized to France. 4th Đại Nam under French colonization was divided into 3 administration regions of Cochinchina, Annam, and Tonkin. Cochinchina was a fully-fledged French Colony, Annam was a protectorate, and Tonkin was half a colony and half a protectorate. 5th Bảo Đại had never attempted to reform the country as he might have known what happened to his ancestor Emperor Hàm Nghi the 8th Emperor of the Nguyễn Dynasty, he died exiled in Algeri and he was a twat that only care of his own pleasure as well.
Great subject matter.
This seems like it’ll be a good one
Yessir, Cold War even more simplified by non other than Geo History
geo history covering the vietnam war before oversimplified?
no guillotine
good work . if you can do one about Afghanistan wars
Very Interesting Video
You didn’t even watch it
@@U.K.NSome TH-camrs give early access for sponsorship
@@tyrin2221 oh ok
Thank you for the true Vietnam war. Love Vietnam
I suggest you to do the Lam Son rebellion by the Later Lê dynasty in 1407. In my opinion this is the toughest and the hardest fight in the whole Vietnam histort, even more than the mongolia invasion. If you have time to do the research then i would highly suggest you to take a loôk about the Lam Sơn rebellion
Yôôô! Tôi học tiếng việt và tôi thích video này
If you are in Vietcong in 1970 and the sky speaks fortunate son, you should run and never look back
I will always be surprised of the current relationship between the US and Vietnam and how they were able to reestablish and strengthen ties in the decades following the war
It’s amazing what China can achieve
@@XXXTENTAClON227Sai lầm đau đớn sau thất bại ở Việt Nam của Hoa kỳ là bắt tay và thân thiết trung quốc quá mức trong những năm 1980-2000. Bài học từ Liên Xô không khiến Mỹ sáng mắt. 1 trung quốc bại liệt những năm 1930-1940,1 thằng đông á bệnh phu. Được sự trợ giúp từ Liên Xô mới có cơ hội trước hết là đẩy Nhật ra khỏi lãnh thổ và đuổi chính đồng minh Hoa kỳ ra đảo đài loan. Chỉ sau đấy hơn 10 năm trở mặt ngay với Liên Xô. Bài học quá đắt giá. Nếu những năm 1977-1978 mà Hoa kỳ bình thường hoá quan hệ và bồi thường chiến tranh cho Việt Nam thì hiện tại có phải kê cao gối nằm ngủ ngon về vấn đề của trung quốc hay không
:)) không có gì phải ngạc nhiên về điều đó cả. Chỉ cần tôn trọng lẫn nhau, không xâm phạm tới sự toàn vẹn lãnh thổ của nhau, hợp tác cùng phát triển thì Việt Nam sẽ làm bạn với tất cả các nước trên thế giới.
Awesome video. Top notch as always. I would love to see your take on the colonialisation of New Zealand, particularly the land wars between the colonial & British armies against the native Maori chiefs which occurred following the signing of The Treaty of Waitangi / Te Tiriti o Waitangi
That does sound interesting.
Vietnam could have been a great ally of the US. As the video shows that they were never close to Cambodia or China and fought wars against them. But Ho Chi Min wanted independence and America supported them being a colony of France. If America had not supported France and then supported Vietnamese independence it could have all been different
America wouldn't support a country that will not become their puppet state
Yes, but the United States & Vietnam today are indeed allies, as both have common enemy, China.
Americans do not understand Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese people's ancestors have been fighting with China for 4,000 years non-stop. It was not until 1985 that Vietnam ended the war with China and the border was peaceful.
Cambodia help Vietnam that why we drag to wars .
Mỹ hero,Ho Chi Minh sent 13 letter to America's president. But the America's President denied it!
I read a book by a ww2 and Vietnam war veteran. I’m actually still reading it and so far I’ve learned that there was no real reason why we were there. We were not allowed to invade north Vietnam because that would trigger ww3 with the soviets and chinese. So we knew that but we still stayed knowing there would be no real peace. The CIA at the time played a big part of transfering 2 million north Vietnamese to the south because they were catholic which would fit the democratic society built by the SMM SAIGAN Military Mission an organization in the 50s that was sponsored by the CIA to do these transfers and change in Vietnamese society so that it would not be communist. Im still reading
Many atrocities alongside such operations.
Vâng ngày nay Mỹ và Phương Tây vẫn luôn dùng con bài Công Giáo này gây ra vô số các cuộc khơi mào chia rẽ dân tộc Việt Nam .và chúng đa số lại bị người dân theo Công Giáo dập tắt 😂😂 khi 1 số Cha sứ được tài trợ của CIA về rao giảng cách thức nổi loạn .giờ giới trẻ Việt Nam gần như bỏ cái tôn giáo này .còn dân chúng luôn trong trạng thái sẵn sàng dẹp bỏ bọn lợi dụng tôn giáo gây ra các cuộc chiến chia rẽ dân tộc .
Im Vietnamese living in the South and im really sad that i have to live in the Communist country 😢, we have no right to speak and the government will immediately arrest and put you in jail if you share some bad thing about them on social media even if it true😢 they have a group called “Red Bulls “ always talk s* about people in the south who flee to America after that war, they’re not teaching young generation the true story and called the war is American war rather than Viet nam war
Nước Mỹ hay cho mình là trung tâm thế giới, họ hay nhảy vào bất kỳ quốc gia nào. Họ tự cho mình quyền thay đổi quốc gia đó, vì họ cho rằng quốc gia đó xấu 😂. Hay tôn trọng thế giới xíu đi người Mỹ ah, vân mệnh nước chúng tôi do chúng tôi quyết, ai cũng có quyền tự do và mưu cầu hạnh phúc. Việt Nam đã chứng minh chúng tôi vẫn tự do tôn giáo, người Kitô giáo vẫn hoạt động bình thường. Hành động của Mỹ là không tôn trọng bất kỳ ai, và bây giờ Mỹ vân như z.
The US was there to protect South Vietnam against communists
Anticipating a new masterpiece!
5:38 "A French expedition is sent to negotiate, but oversteps its mission and conquers the city" Lmao
Great video that makes internet worthy. Ironically many details here are not being taught/clarified in VN school
Nếu muốn biết mọi thứ bạn lên đi học chuyên sử, còn Lịch Sử dạy trong trường học nói chung là những giáo trình khái quát vì người Việt học cả lịch sử thế giới nữa chứ không chỉ học mỗi lịch sử Việt Nam thôi. Do đó rất dễ bỏ qua những cái tiểu tiết. Muốn tìm hiểu hết tất cả các sự kiện đã có những trường chuyên sử ở Việt Nam, hãy học ở đó.
My only criticism is labelling it as a war between Vietnam and the USA. More countries were involved.
If you want a list here it is
North vietnam Allies: China and USSR, (obviously) Cuba, Laos and Cambodia, and North Korea
South vietnam allies: United States, (also obvious) South Korea. Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, even Taiwan
@@The_whalesyes.
@@The_whalesSweden too helped the Viet Cong
Vietnam War was a civil war between the North Vietnamese Commie terrorists supported by global Commie giants Soviet and China, and the free and prosperous Republic of South Vietnam, just like the North Korean Commie terrorist state versus the free and prosperous Republic of South Korea. The US supported the right side, just like it helped Western Europe, including Germany, and Japan after WW2, and those nations have not only recovered but become economic powerhouses. For the same reason, however, the North Vietnamese Commie terrorists and their brainwashed minions have been very much different from the citizens of the free and prosperous Republic of South Vietnam. Therefore, it's an oversimplification and not really accurate assessment to categorize "Vietnamese" as 1 group.
@@The_whalesmiền Bắc chỉ là hộ trợ thôi chứ k có quân ngoại bang tham chiến trực tiếp nha
Baby wake up, geo history just uploaded
Poor Laos just wanted to be left alone. Laotian people are some of the most giving people on earth.
The Vietnamese people always thank Laos for supporting the mountains and forests for the Vietnamese liberation army to enter the South
@@khaitruong2157 I doubt they had a choice, and their country is the most bombed in the world because of this conflict.
Vì sự hi sinh cao cả đó của lào tôi tự hứa với bản thân,với tư cách là 1 người việt nam sẽ đối xử tốt nhất có thể và coi người lào như anh em ruột thịt của tôi. Xin gửi tình yêu của tôi đến tất cả các bạn lào ❤
The history of vietnam and other south east asian countries like cambodia, laos and thailand is so overlooked.
Pretty good video but I'm annoyed at how the invasion of Cambodia was presented. How could you left out the fact that VN troop had to do something about the Khmer rouge. They killed millions of their own people and started killing Vietnamese along the border too. What other choice did they have
yes they should have mentioned the genocide
That’s how you know this history is twisted, much missing context makes you question credibility.
那为什么越南还入侵老挝和泰国？
Với việc việt nam giải phóng campuchia với tội diệt chủng và việt nam bị bao vây cấm vận , thế giới còn nợ việt nam một lời xin lỗi.
@@cjthebeeskneesPolpot Rogue kill about 2 millions people. About 1/4 populations off Cambodia. Then Polpot Rogue kill my people. We know that we must fight for my country and fight for Cambodia's people. But all country in the world said we invaded Cambodia. That so sad but we don't care because in my people have what things we must to do
Honey, wake up. Geohistory just posted
Great video !!!
Also Vietnam today is one of the few countries who are still communiest.
Socialist, they are socialist not communist, they are run by the communist party currently but they are not communist
@@SwedishDrunkard5963 ok then
Except for all the capitalism they moved towards in the late 80s in throughout the 90s. The Party still calls itself communist though.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 We're currently a pre-socialist state, which is a state that capitalism have to go through to evolve to socialism. It's in the theory of communism: Prehistoric->ancient->monarchy->capitalism->socialism->communism
@Thang-qo4ow yes, respectfully, I know the ludicrous formula from Marx.
By that formulation, Vietnam "regressed" since the 70s.
would you be able to add the deail around the nixon campaigns sabotaging of Johnson peace talks in 19689 through Kissinger? Its a vital piece of context.
i love that you mention Paracel and Spratly islands at the end. Those island was ceded by Nguyen dynasty, then they were controled by French colony government. After Dien Bien Phu battle, they were controled by South Vietnam. So in logical, they should be belong to Vietnam not China. Because China didn't declare a formal war to South Vietnam or North Vietnam, and no one recognized China's owned them in any treaty.
Theo quan niệm của người Trung Quốc thì cả thế giới này là của họ 😂😂😂
@@binhducc 知道郑和下西洋吗？
@@凌雪雪 Lại nhai đi nhai lại về cái gọi là "từ thời cổ đại" và một tên Trịnh Hoà vớ vẩn nào đó rồi. Chẳng lẽ chỉ có người Trung Hoa bọn mày mới biết đi thuyền sao? Người Việt đã đi biển, đánh cá ở khu vực này hơn 1500 năm trước khi nhà Tần chiếm được miền Nam Trung Quốc ngày nay. Các triều đại Lý, Trần Lê đã tiếp quản Hoàng Sa, Triều đại Lê, Nguyễn đã tiếp quản Trường Sa, các bản đồ của người Việt và ngươit Phương Tây khi giao thương với Việt Nam cũng đã vẽ lãnh thổ đó là của người Việt. Các bản đồ của Trung Quốc, thời nhà Thanh lãnh thổ cũng chỉ đến cực nam của đảo Hải Nam, đến thời Tưởng Giới Thạch tự tiện vẽ một đường 11 đoạn thì từ đó là "lãnh thổ của Trung Quốc từ thời cổ đại" 😂😂😂😂
Lúc Việt Nam có người lưu trú ở Hoàng Sa thì cụ tổ 7 đời của Trịnh Hoà các người còn chưa đẻ. Mới nứt mắt ra đi dạo một vòng bé xíu đã dám tuyên bố là lãnh thổ của mình. Giờ này chắc Mặt Trời, Mặt Trăng, Sao Hoả, cũng là của Trung Quốc vì họ đã quan sát thấy nó cách đây từ " thời cổ đại" 😂😂😂.
Với cái tính cách tham lam, trơ trẽn, ngu dốt, bảo thủ, bần tiện của nhân dân Trung Hoa như vậy, nên cả thế giới loài người từ Đông sang Tây, từ Bắc đến Nam, từ hàng xóm thân cận đến những nước ở xa xôi, cứ nhìn cứ nghe đến hai chữ "Trung Quốc", "China" là nghĩ ngay đến sự kinh tởm, khốn nạn. Đừng trách người, hãy tự nhìn lại mình. 😂😅
Thanks you for talk about our country❤
BANGER!!!!
Great ! Tks video
Just a suggestion, add some older history and title it The History of Vietnam or just title the video History of Vietnam since 1700 and just start there to sound more organized. Still well done. I love all your videos! Please post more if you can 🙏. I have a lot of suggestions for you if you’re interested.
"The right of nations to self-determination"...ad long as they choose what we tell them to.
Super vidéo, franchement c'est difficile de trouver un aussi bon résumé sur ce topic sur TH-cam. J'ai hate de voir tes prochains sujets ! Y'a un endroit pour en discuter ? (Reddit, Twitter ou Insta ?) Petite critique cependant, je trouve que les meffets de la colonisation française n'ont pas été assez abordés, et j'avoue que les guerres contre le Cambodge et la Chine auraient peut etre mérité un peu plus de développement. Continue comme ça !
Merci, j'ai un compte twitter mais qui n'est pas très actif. En fait je ne suis pas très disponible en général, je préfère me concentrer sur les prochaines vidéos. Merci aussi pour les critiques, je note pour les prochaines vidéos.
Finally a True video after months
cool video
Nice a 25 minute video of my favorite Southeast Asia country
From the video, in 1907 showing how Siam lost her territory of Siem Rath, Phra Tabong, Sri Sophon to France . This included the angkor wat too.
Can't wait for this!
Excellent! Thank you.
What a channel.
Love Vietnam from Russia
Hate russia from finland
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Very good, doesn't need the repeated hiphop beats but it was good.
has anyone noticed that he sounds like What If and Ridddle? (triple d on ridddle on purpose btw)
11/7 explanation bestest video
I preferred the old lector
This is the first pretty good summary of events on the history of vietnam from a western perspective that i have seen
Awesome summary
I notice a wrong representation of territory in the map of Vietnam and Thailand during the 1800's time period. The reign of Minh Mang (Nguyen Dynasty) at the height of there power they had control over half of Laos if not all of it except for the western territories from Siam and half of Cambodia. There has been shown physical old map documented from France, Vietnam and China showing the extent of Dai Nam's empire and power under Minh Mạng's rule, again it shows most of Laos and the western part of the half was Thailand's. There was a long war going on during this time period with Siam (Thailand) and Dai Nam (Vietnam) over the control of Khmer's fragmented empire.. The southern territory of Vietnam did have control over half of Cambodia when the Khmer empire was weak. That is why France was able to take over Laos and Cambodia without much of a fight from both Cambodia or Laos because they were basically split into half under the rule of both Vietnam and Thailand during that period. It was later on when Vietnam was fighting with France that Thailand came in and took most of Laos territory away from Vietnam but that was very short lived because France came in and took it over like how this video shows us at around 8:10 in the video explains it. So most of Laos was under Vietnam's rule before France came in but of course France took more territory than what it really was from Siam when they made that treaty with Siam for control of Laos. I am not discrediting this video by any means but a little more better accuracy could have made this video much better.
Vietnamese territory under the Nguyen Dynasty actually included a significant part of Cambodia. After saving the Khmer people from genocide, Vietnam returned their land according to the territorial division established during the French colonial period.
Today, Cambodians often claim that Vietnam has occupied their land, but they do not make similar accusations against Thailand. They criticized the interventionists who overthrew Pol Pot and rescued their people,
Young Cambodians are being influenced by political parties, expressing a desire to reclaim all of South Vietnam, which seems absurd. There is a strong aversion towards the Vietnamese people in Cambodia. Interestingly, they appear to accept China, the same country that supported Pol Pot.
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The only country that wasn't defeat by USA ( very good)
Most countries haven't been defeated by the U.S.A.
The US literally lost to a country on its own continent twice, wtf do you mean “the only” 🤨🤨
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