Shocking History: The Ahanta's Otumfuo vs Ashanti's Otumfuo..Obiri Boahen Sparks New Dabate

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  • @AK-lb8jq
    @AK-lb8jq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The great Historian Lawyer Obiri Boahen 🎉 wow very Interested history

  • @christopherobeng-Mensah
    @christopherobeng-Mensah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very insightful. This man should put some of these into writing.

  • @germainemmanuel7257
    @germainemmanuel7257 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ahanta king was using otumfuo way before komfo anokye formed asanteman

  • @fiestaclement8186
    @fiestaclement8186 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Powerful history 💪🏾💪🏾💛🖤💚🫶🏻🤝

  • @dr_eghan
    @dr_eghan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What is controversial about this? Long before bond of 1844, there was already Butre treaty signed by the Ahanta

  • @jeffa8441
    @jeffa8441 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, so amazing

  • @asarewilson6365
    @asarewilson6365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey papa we need to know Assin history us well always u go over Assin then to Akim .we need to know more if Assin thanks.

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aside the kingdoms that sprouted from the Ashanti kingdom like the Akyems and Juabens and others, Ashanti is the youngest among the Akan kingdoms to be established.
    Until the establishment of the ashanti Kingdom only the Ahanta king was using the title otumfuor after which the asantes copied.
    It was until 1838 that the The ahanta kingdom was defeated and burnt by the dutch. .many Years later in 1900 b4 the Ashanti kingdom would was also be crushed by the British in the Yaa Asantewaa war.

  • @wirekoebenezer
    @wirekoebenezer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Despite his twist he sometimes has something good to share.Ask yourself how many historians talk about the Ahanta kingdom in Western Region?

    • @dr_eghan
      @dr_eghan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s interesting how Ghana’s history has been tampered. Long before bond of 1844, there was Butre treaty signed by Ahanta in 1656

    • @amoahfrank5162
      @amoahfrank5162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dr_eghanthat is accurate.

    • @respectrespect6754
      @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. Ahanta kingdom was in Existence as far back as 1300s before even the Asante as a kingdom would come into existence around 1600. You people have always twisted history to make it always seem like Ashanti is the only tribe with history in Ghana

    • @amoahfrank5162
      @amoahfrank5162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @respectrespect6754, I would like to clarify a historical point regarding the 1300s. During that period, there was no established Ahanta kingdom nor substantive people called Ahanta/Nyinda. The Ahanta, also known as Nyinda, which means "twin sister or brother of Anyi," share a common ancestry with the Anyis and the Apolos (who officially adopted the name Nzema around 1921).
      Historically, the people of "Bentinlebo" (modern-day Beyin) had a recognized king named Tumivol3 Kerma, and also the king of the Anyin/Sangwis Ano Asaman II, who oversaw the Anyis. At that time, Nyinda had not yet emerged as a distinct group from the Anyis, which only happened in the mid-15th century. There were internal conflicts within the kingship between the Anyis and those later called Nzemaa (also known as Apolo by the Portuguese). This conflict arose because the Apolos believed their seat at Beyin was the oldest and deserved prominence, while the Anyis, supported by the Sangwis, believed that Ano Asaman II's lineage was the rightful successor to Ano Asaman I.
      This dispute led to the first civil war among these groups, specifically between the Apolos/Nzema and the Anyi (with the Sangwis). The buffer zone between these groups resulted in the formation of the Nyindas, with most of them being Anyis and a few Apolos from old Nvuma (now Discove/Diskove and neighboring villages), Shama (formerly Sima/Zima), and several small towns in the Nyinda/Ahanta region up to present-day Axim/Axima. This area remained a buffer that could not be directly claimed by the Nzimas, even if they had historical ties to it, until the Nyinda/Ahanta became prominent in the mid to late 16th century.
      Due to the continuous buffer between the Anyis and the Apolos, neither group could exert direct control. During this period, a major war occurred, marking the first time the Apolos invited the Akwamus to aid them against the Anyi, Wassa, and Adwira coalition, which opposed the seat at Beyin.
      When the Portuguese arrived, the Zima/Shama people rejected them. This was when the Nzimas got their name "Apolo," as the Portuguese sighted them on the day of Apolo. The Portuguese settled in the Wassa-dominated coast (which included the Fantes until the Wassas moved inland, probably by the order of Denkyirahene).
      The vacuum between the Anyi and Nzema/Apolo became a zone of free states and towns. These areas inadvertently became peacemakers and key players. The arrival of the Europeans, whose settlements were in this buffer zone (Axim and its surroundings, and elmina areas), significantly altered the balance of power. Without European intervention, the Anyis and the Wassas, who were more numerous than the Nzemaa, might have maintained dominance.
      Treaties signed by the Nyindas and the people of Axema/Axim with the Europeans, and their friendliness towards the Europeans, directly impacted the Apolo people and angered the king of Apolonia in Beyin. The seat at Beyin attempted to annex Axim fully in the mid-1600s but was met with strong resistance. However, a century or two later, the Apolos eventually subdued Axim and the neighboring towns.
      So by the time of the Dutch/Deutsch and the Danes and finally the English, Axim and its surrounding became like the regional capital and the title Ahanta was used administratively as the name of the Province of the whole area not necessarily as a kingdom (as negotiations were usually and solely made between chiefs of the buffer zones - until the various attacks of the chief of the apolos became notorious).
      So Ahanta or Nyinda became a substantive state from 16th century. And indeed they became a recognized power as described above until the demise of Badu Bonsu II reign in early to mid 19th century.
      There is a need for a comprehensive historical and evidentiary book on the genesis of the kingdoms of Western Ghana, as many details are not widely known.

    • @amoahfrank5162
      @amoahfrank5162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @respectrespect6754, I would like to clarify a historical point regarding the 1300s. During that period, there was no established Ahanta kingdom nor substantive people called Ahanta/Nyinda. The Ahanta, also known as Nyinda, which means "twin sister or brother of Anyi," share a common ancestry with the Anyis and the Apolos (who officially adopted the name Nzema around 1921).
      Historically, the people of "Bentinlebo" (modern-day Beyin) had a recognized king named Tumivol3 Kerma, and also the king of the Anyin/Sangwis Ano Asaman II, who oversaw the Anyis. At that time, Nyinda had not yet emerged as a distinct group from the Anyis, which only happened in the mid-15th century. There were internal conflicts within the kingship between the Anyis and those later called Nzemaa (also known as Apolo by the Portuguese). This conflict arose because the Apolos believed their seat at Beyin was the oldest and deserved prominence, while the Anyis, supported by the Sangwis, believed that Ano Asaman II's lineage was the rightful successor to Ano Asaman I.
      This dispute led to the first civil war among these groups, specifically between the Apolos/Nzema and the Anyi (with the Sangwis). The buffer zone between these groups resulted in the formation of the Nyindas, with most of them being Anyis and a few Apolos from old Nvuma (now Discove/Diskove and neighboring villages), Shama (formerly Sima/Zima), and several small towns in the Nyinda/Ahanta region up to present-day Axim/Axima. This area remained a buffer that could not be directly claimed by the Nzimas, even if they had historical ties to it, until the Nyinda/Ahanta became prominent in the mid to late 16th century.
      Due to the continuous buffer between the Anyis and the Apolos, neither group could exert direct control. During this period, a major war occurred, marking the first time the Apolos invited the Akwamus to aid them against the Anyi, Wassa, and Adwira coalition, which opposed the seat at Beyin.
      When the Portuguese arrived, the Zima/Shama people rejected them. This was when the Nzimas got their name "Apolo," as the Portuguese sighted them on the day of Apolo. The Portuguese settled in the Wassa-dominated coast (which included the Fantes until the Wassas moved inland, probably by the order of Denkyirahene).
      The vacuum between the Anyi and Nzema/Apolo became a zone of free states and towns. These areas inadvertently became peacemakers and key players. The arrival of the Europeans, whose settlements were in this buffer zone (Axim and its surroundings, and elmina areas), significantly altered the balance of power. Without European intervention, the Anyis and the Wassas, who were more numerous than the Nzemaa, might have maintained dominance.
      Treaties signed by the Nyindas and the people of Axema/Axim with the Europeans, and their friendliness towards the Europeans, directly impacted the Apolo people and angered the king of Apolonia in Beyin. The seat at Beyin attempted to annex Axim fully in the mid-1600s but was met with strong resistance. However, a century or two later, the Apolos eventually subdued Axim and the neighboring towns.
      So by the time of the Dutch/Deutsch and the Danes and finally the English, Axim and its surrounding became like the regional capital and the title Ahanta was used administratively as the name of the Province of the whole area not necessarily as a kingdom (as negotiations were usually and solely made between chiefs of the buffer zones - until the various attacks of the chief of the apolos became notorious).
      So Ahanta or Nyinda became a substantive state from 16th century. And indeed they became a recognized power as described above until the demise of Badu Bonsu II reign in early to mid 19th century.
      There is a need for a comprehensive historical and evidentiary book on the genesis of the kingdoms of Western Ghana, as many details are not widely known.

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where was the existence of Ashanti kingdom when the treaty of butre was signed in 1646 with the Dutch.
    . Ahanta kingdom was in Existence as far back as 1300s before even the Asante as a kingdom would come into existence around 1670 led by Osei tutu I the first leader. You people have always twisted history to make it always seem like Ashanti is the only tribe with history in Ghana. It was rather the Asantes who copied the otumfuor title from the Ahantas.

  • @niilamine1067
    @niilamine1067 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hehehe sailor james

  • @henryghartey433
    @henryghartey433 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ask Ashantihene why he can't visit Ahanta land. You people should know that Ahanta's were more powerful than Ashanti's. As we are done buried our king head, the Ahanta kingdom will rise again and take what is rightfully belongs to us. The know how powerful the ahanta's are that's why they are still keeping our king head in 37 hospital.

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  • @amoahfrank5162
    @amoahfrank5162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lawyer Boahene equally knows history. However he fails to realize that most of the things he says fit into lawyer Anokye' account. Whilst lawyer Anokye's summarized position is directly etymological, leading to the singular state of Bonomanso (where we can etymologically say all akans came from); lawyer Boahene's own seek to detail the population of the various states (from several groupings)...
    For instance, when we say Adansi (Adawu), there were other people who formed villages under adansi lands. In such case, all the people who serjourned in adansi permanently would be called adansis. The only difference is that the chieftancy will be for the first clan who established Adansi (the root of adawu) whilst the other clans become subservient...
    But ETYMOLOGICALLY lawyer Anokye is right to put it correctly that all akans are bono... What lawyer Boahene is saying is not a contradiction to lawyer Anokye - they should just be civilised in their submission.

  • @oneghana.9893
    @oneghana.9893 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Without the word of God, these are the kind of confusion man creates for themselves. He himself knows that, what he is saying is baseless yet he is so vibrant talking as if it's true

    • @ypk7858
      @ypk7858 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What exactly do you mean? It is baseless because he is not quoting from the Bible? You do believe the tower of Babel, Jonah and the Whale,etc etc etc just because you read those stories from the Bible.

    • @oneghana.9893
      @oneghana.9893 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ypk7858 you can test the word of God in the Bible. On the olden days, when disease break out, example cholera, they didn't know, it's caused by bacterium called vibrio cholerae. Today we know it. Our fathers attributed it to spirits. If you are to to do scientific investigation, you realize that, they said those things for psychological reason of making other tribes think they are powerful.

    • @danielagyemang4625
      @danielagyemang4625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One ghana, what's the word of God, I don't feel surprised since you are a black man with no respect for yourself.
      Where do Chinese, Japanese etc place your so-called word of God?
      Think twice and redeem yourself from the religion of the slave

  • @benababiodanso2885
    @benababiodanso2885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You got the James Town one wrong. It was a British settlement named after their King.

  • @OboyKrim1
    @OboyKrim1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it might be spaceship facts

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ahantas came to settle and established a kingdom with their brothers Nzema way before Ashanti as a kingdom Came to existence. Check your facts well..

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Asante's never dared to fight a war with Ahanta throughout history.
    However they wanted to supply the Dutch with 1000s of soldiers to assassinate Baidoo Bonsoe the Ahanta king.
    You people always paint the picture as if other tribes have no history in Ghana..

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Threre are many historians in Ghana. You people should do deligent work as far as history telling is concerned by inviting more historians. For many facts

  • @josephdebrahamankwah6133
    @josephdebrahamankwah6133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He from Bono to Akuamu go and read Akuamu history

  • @Johnincoom
    @Johnincoom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Asante history, always they won so in which defeat got them to shrink? They were the most defeated tribe in ancient history because they were always out to cause trouble.

    • @yawdwubengsarpong6628
      @yawdwubengsarpong6628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Masa Masa if u don't know ask. Which tribe can put his hand on their chest and say they defeated Ashanti apart from the British

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Van de purye is a Dutch name not Jamaican..
    There are many twists in your history telling.. some are true some too are not.
    Gas did not migrate with any sailor called James. Is James a Ga name ?
    It was the British that name the place James own as Oguaa was also renamed cape coast

  • @FrancisKwameNyamekye-tb4et
    @FrancisKwameNyamekye-tb4et 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You always tell the history of the Akans,when are you going to tell the history of the people of the North of Ghana.

  • @respectrespect6754
    @respectrespect6754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obiri boahen .. Ahanta kingdom was in existence Before Asante kingdom came into existence.. don't twist history

    • @aniboirichard5631
      @aniboirichard5631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And did u hear him saying that the Ashanti kingdom is the first? This hatred will kill u ppl ooo😂😂😂😂

  • @dbob632
    @dbob632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please Van depuur is Dutch name not Jamaica. James town is name after the James Fort. Cross check your fact Please

  • @KKorankye
    @KKorankye 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If they didn’t come from one place or stayed together before n like u r saying some come from ground others from space in different location why the similarities in their culture,family system,names yet they live separately now in different areas

  • @mustafaissahak3984
    @mustafaissahak3984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comedian story taller lia

  • @henryhenry3704
    @henryhenry3704 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vanderpuye is not Jamaican but Dutch. This guy is distorting a lot

  • @solomoncoffie9536
    @solomoncoffie9536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a comedy 😂😂😂

    • @ckocnegyata1759
      @ckocnegyata1759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Learn bro

    • @Kingoftheimmigrants4646
      @Kingoftheimmigrants4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But u believed the stories in the Bible right?
      Smh

    • @Kingoftheimmigrants4646
      @Kingoftheimmigrants4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What u don’t know is that, our forefathers knew something we don’t know and they used that power to build our tribes, culture and heritage
      U are a joker

    • @Kingoftheimmigrants4646
      @Kingoftheimmigrants4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      These are spiritual stuff but I know u wldnt understand it
      Technology? Like how

    • @solomoncoffie9536
      @solomoncoffie9536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ckocnegyata1759 I know you believe in fairytales but not factual

  • @kofi6186
    @kofi6186 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obiri Boahen is losing his head

  • @EmmanuelAmponsah-zy7kk
    @EmmanuelAmponsah-zy7kk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can see when someone is lying