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The reason you love the 8 + 5.333 interval is that it's a perfect 5th, which means when you play a triad you're getting the 7th and 9th thrown in for free... 'jazz chords' ensue :)
‘Are you hearing this?!?’ Absolutely! And it is heavenly! I can feel your enthusiasm coming through the screen. It’s palpable. What an amazing synth!
The real trick with the CS-80 is very slowly moving the sliders...there's magical harmonics in there.
The "feet" comes from the length of a pipe in a pipe organ. Double the length of the pipe, go down one octave. Halve it, go up one.
Awesome, great to know. Thank you for sharing!
Yep, pretty standard in analogue synths, even my more modern Rolands have it
@@Barefoot_Joe need metric conversions....
@@andyq9669 organs come from europe, and back in the day they weren'y measured by meters but by feet aswell. so it's not that it's been "americanized", medieval europa was just weird.
@@matthijsblomjous3671 I was only joking dude, I have some small awareness of history. Have a grand day!
Like the Bob Ross of synth demos
This... Is a true compliment.
Indeed. Great mellow blend of voiceover and sound demonstration.
He's not wrong. Great radio voice.
Dude, so true, you nailed it!
Damn. You stole this comment from me! Well played MB
Nice Review! BTW - The "PG" control switches between Portamento/Glissando. Portamento (also referred to as Glide or Slide) is a continuous pitch transition between notes (controlled by a speed parameter). Glissando is a transition that happens in discreet note steps - like running your fingers up a piano between 2 notes (also speed controlled).
John Tejada is an Underground hero. Makes sense he has a DD.
Wow. I cannot get over how beautiful this instrument is. Makes sense why it was Vangelis first weapon of choice.
It's crazy... Seriously
@@RickyTinez what’s crazy is how with the volume all the way up. your speaking voice is louder then the instrument. Foh 🖕🏽😆🖕🏽
Hey Enrique, the way you present your videos is infectious! You have a very calming way about yourself. I could watch your vids all day.
I was close to burst into tears.
This synth sounds heavenly 😍
Then i looked at the price, and finally fell into tears.
Oh! They provide a DIY kit, for much less of the prebuild one 😱
Seems like a lot of work though right?
Maybe it'll make it that much sweeter
@@RickyTinez I would not mind that 😉. Yes, probably much sweeter 😊
when I brought home and first turned on a CS-80 decades ago, I was disappointed. The sound was thin and wimpy. The oscillators were not like a Minimoog at all. Neither were the filters. "This thing sucks," is what my crestfallen self said.
And no pitch/mod wheels. Wtf?
But I persisted in working the sliders. Then I played a Dm7 chord and suddenly my life changed. I was hooked for life. It occurred to me that the comparative thin and wimpy sound across a chord is exactly the magic of the CS-80. Thos 8 individual voices under Polyphonic Aftertouch .... worlds away magic.
This synth was always so alive. So perfectly imperfect.
Add the 5 1/3 foot stop and you get into sublime territory
The presets are very thin, buzzy and and annoying. The secret to it is making your own patches and playing with the touch response parameters. It has a HUGE low end. The brass is to die for and the strings sound gorgeous. When I play mine the walls in my cave rumble.
Absolutely right... I had the same feeling with my CS 80, but after all , sigh! ..i sold 7 years ago because is a sinth surely temperamental and for real musician that can play .
@@jesusdiaz6663 yes - half of what the CS-80 is all about is the player interface, plus the fact that it's actually two thin, shitty sounding synths sandwiched together x 8. All those wonderful flaws worked in concert with one another. And the instrument would change as it warmed up. You can really lean into the playing.
This should be illegal, it's too good.
in that case, pay for it
Pierre LaBelle expensive
IL & AL is a replacement for the SUSTAIN of modern synths. Nothing to do with filter velocity sensitivity.
To explain (assuming a positive EG amount of modern synth as the CS-80 can't do negative EG amount): where a modern filter ADSR will take a default cutoff (the big knob setting) up to the top (the EG amount), then down to sustain level and finally back down further to the default cutoff. The CS-80 uses the cutoff setting as the sustain level. If you want the env to make a pick up before going back to sustain, you need to give AL (which is the diff between the usual EG amount and the modern sustain level). But, il you want the ADR to start from a lower cutoff than the sustain level, that's where the IL enters into play. Notice that its max is -5, a negative amount. So increasing IL increases the diff between the sustain and the low level of the ADR, low level that is usually the cutoff knob level on newer synths. The thinking is inverted, but it's equivalent.
Modern synth:
EG Amount (positive)
/\
/ \____ Sustain
/ \
CUTOFF --- ---- (back to cutoff big knob)
CS-80:
cutoff + AL (up to +5) (at most cutoff + 5)
/\
CUTOFF is here! (beware!) --------------------------> / \____ (CUTOFF settings (both LP & HP))
/ \
cutoff + IL ("up" to MINUS 5, IL always negative) -- --- (back to cutoff + IL (IL is negative) so at most cutoff - 5)
As a result, if you offset LP & HP leaving a small corridor for the sound to pass, the EG will make the corridor (the walls staying in parallel) go up to cutoff + AL, down to cutoff, down to cutoff + IL (IL is negative!).
And brightness enlarges the distance between the walls of the corridor in both directions simultaneously, like a Summit would increase its filter separation if you will.
Settings on the far right help assigning modulation from the polypressure keyboard or velocity to various settings i.e., brilliance (enlarging the corridor HP down, LP up) or VCA). I don't know a setting that helps modulate the EG amounts (= AL - IL) and tie them to velocity. Though, if you let the HP all the way down only working with the LP, then brilliance vel sensitivity (labelled "brilliance INITIAL") becomes equivalent to velocity sensitive LP, as the HP can't go down any further than the lowest setting.
I can tell I'll be coming back to this video from time to time...
Dear god, I could listen to this forever... Thanks Ricky, for all the content you put our there my man! We’re blessed! 🙏🏻
Love n miss you Ricky!! Excellent demo as always!! ❤️
Glissiando and the Foot references are so that people reading sheet music can understand the controls. Both the CS8-80 and The GX-1 Organ were designed with classical organists as the intended customer. The reason why just about everything has it's own slider control as opposed to a knob is because organists are used to pulling draw bars and leavers to change orchestral sounds on the fly. The reason why so much can be routed to velocity and poly aftertouch is because in addition to dynamics, Yamaha wanted each note played to have a subtly different timbre than the previous one. The goal was to simulate the different breath control from player to player in a wind instrument section or not quite matching finger placements for the string section. As well as other organic sound variations you get from multiple musicians playing in an orchestra. I love that all this ingenious theory and meticulous design on Yamaha's part resulted in zero organ players buying them. And keyboard synth players spending fortunes to get their hands on one.
Tejada is one of my favorites producers. Can't wait until he'll produce something using this hardware.
beautiful machine
That vibrato oscillation at 15:10... ermahgerd.... I could swim in that sound. I want to sleep in a bed made of that sound....
This baby is just a pure beauty ! At 16:42 it sounds like an old black and white movie soundtrack, full of emotions !!
Thanks Enrique for that demo !
I'm happy for you, you're so lucky to have that iconic synth ...have fun with it and give us more demo please !
And my salutations to Frida (Kahlo ??) ;)
yeah sort of like an organ, ultra nice sound
A quick answer I found about the difference between Glissando and Portamento (both are Italian btw. as most terms that come from classical music are):
"Irrespective of singing, a glissando indicates that specific notes (whether specified or not) should be played or performed. For example, if there is a perfect-fifth leap with a port. indication, the performer should play/sing all of the chromatic notes in between unless otherwise indicated.
A portamento indicates that no specific pitches are necessary and may include semi or quarter tones as well. A glissando is more gestural and is often larger than a portamento."
Yeah my understanding is that portamento is a smooth gliding between pitches whereas glissando is stepped (like dragging your finger quickly across a keyboard, or the difference between sliding your finger up/down a fretted fingerboard vs a fretless one)
NO EFFIN WAY!!!! That thing looks so tight, I’ve wanted one for forever. That is so legit dude
won"t get fooled again
Absolutely insane machine indeed! DAMN. Even without the polyphonic aftertouch this thing just blows your mind.
You said it.... Wow.
Thanks for the trip EM and massive respect to Black Corp for (re)creating this fantastic beast.
Thanks for watching Damien, yea man. this thing is nuts..
Tejada is also an *amazing* DJ, really worth being around when he's spinning.
I must be Deckard because I keep dreaming of Deckard's Dream. Thanks for the wonderful video!
Really enjoyed this demo. Thanks Enrique!
Finally a PROPER review of this synth. Thank you Sir!
Edit: This + Big Sky = death by beauty
That would be awsome! :-)
Waiting for the £300 Behringer clone over here 🤣
£289 or nah... 😋
A clone of a clone
Behringer is coming out with a CS-80 clone :)
Crazy insane... Goosebumps all the way through
Enrique I'm so glad that you shared this with everyone. There are cool sounds, nice sounds, sounds that kick ass and then there is Deckards Dream, wow just stunning. I had for years heard of the CS80 and I believe that Brian Eno used it,
I'll check out your friend John Tejada's music and thank him for letting you hang out with his Deckards Dream.
not worth the money
Mmm I do not know much they, cost, I'm guessing they are not cheap.
Glissando is to slide pitch toward your desired note ending with the desired note. Portamento is to start on your desired note and end by sliding away from it. Both words are derived from Italian. Great video, amazing sounds! Thanks for doing this.
that patch around 15 minutes in blew my mind. That was one of the most incredible sounds I've heard.
Holy cow, this sounds amazing! Didn't expect a 20 min. video when you said you were posting it today haha
I thought it would be 5 minutes next thing you know it was almost half an hour
i'm sure, some people have already been explaining about the difference between p(ortamento) and g(lide) and the "feet" thing referring to organ registers based on overtones, but this demo is really really nice ricky!! i totally share your enthusiasm about dd. bigups to john tejada for lending his to you and say hi from move d, if you speak to him... :-) d
Lovely review! Thanks
The sounds are so beautiful, it just gives me so much comfort!
I need an OB-6 and a deckards dream to be complete, everything else is trivial
It's time for Beringer to work on recreating this. It's hella good.
They're working on an 8-voice, the OB-Xa.
Behringer wouldn't bother. The bill of materials is too high. Think about the UB-Xa: it has two CE3340 VCOs per voice but two CEM3320 filters, and one is always left unused so this could be reduced to one with some clever circuitry.. The CS80 has FOUR active VCFs per two VCOs, and these VCFs in the DD are almost discrete (they use a SSM2164 per filter, several op amps, and a lot of passive components) because Yamaha designed the IG00156 and it would be too costly to fabricate this chip again in quantities just for the CS line of synths because of the lower demand.
I think there’s a chance. They are definitely considering it and doing the math in my opinion. It’s one of the most requested things people keep asking them for. I think if they can get it around $1.5-2k ball park they will do it
@Bobby Schmurda damn, I never knew Shmurda was into electronic music..
Lucky you! What is that a clone of? @Blake Ronan
I wanted to buy this synth but my single remaining kidney said "no"...
Do you really need one? ;)
@@JuanAMatos-zx4ub The synth or the kidney?
Its a 1000$. Hardly THAT expensive, that a long term plan cant achieve.
Most musical instruments are even more expensive.
And also, the original costs $10000+.
Kidneys are for quitters
Enrique can you post another video of just sounds from this? I cannot afford it but would like to meditate to it. Thanks for the above video.
I might be a good idea before I have to take it back!
+1 to that, please run through presets I'm sure it can sound amazing
@@Barefoot_Joe +2
Barefoot Joe , presets huh ?
MarkoDeLaVoota so many presets
16:40 onwards is a painfully sweet sound.
This sound alone is a reason to buy this instrument
For a week I am trying to recreate this sound in Reason, I failed so far. It's too sweet.
The sliders marked in length measurements goes back to one of the coolest music machines ever created, The Pipe Organ. The different lengths brought out different overtones and was a huge tone shaping device.
These sliders were also used by the makers of the Hammond organ company (and other electronic organs) and was a major component to their sound, of course pipes were not used the pipe length was created electronically. I'm not an export this subject band I'm sure there's more to the story of pipe organ lengths.
If you've never heard a Pipe Organ live , I highly recommend experiencing one in person. There a lot of old churches in LA
that you could hear one. It will blow you away!
Yes, but can you use it in pop?
the Pipe organ or the Deckards Dream? I would say anything can work with anything, it just depends.
Wow now I'm on the hunt
With those old pipe organs... the ENTIRE building is the resonating chamber. It's meant to shake the entire house.
The pipe organ was used in cathedrals and churches, in combination with the resonant nature of the building housing it, to create an "alpha state" that sought to make people more receptive to the message, bypassing critical thinking and creating sort of an hypnotic experience, especially with the low, incredibly deep bass drone notes coming from pipes big enough to "reach heaven". Subtle mind bending through sound waves, along with judicious music selection to create a mood and mind state receptive to the message. For most churches today the organ has been replaced by a church band, which gives off a totally different energy. Some still use the organ tho, especially droning on during the alter call, creating that hypnotic undercurrent of tones that makes people more receptive to opening their wallet. The hypnotic effects of drone bass also extend to today's rave/EDM scene, tho luckily there is no religious or political message being pushed. A lot of new age music also contains the ultra-low drone tones for the same reason, putting the listener in a relaxed, receptive state.
Inspiring. I've been fiddling around with Arturia's CS80 tonight because of this. Someday I'll have hardware. So warm.
Sounds really awesome! This is what dreams are made of. Wow! Thanks for the sweet demo!
I sold most of my old synths to buy the Deckard and I can say its my all time favorite synth ever!
Yea, if you are into creating film music, giving a synthposeum or indulging oneself.
used a lot on this track ; th-cam.com/video/-V4XqkbMyMQ/w-d-xo.html
Excellent things ????
soooo good!
@@SPAZZOID100 My greater point is that any of us could get along with a lot less for the money, plain and simple.
This video has motivated me to finally start working on the kit I bought over a year ago. Absolutely wonderful demo!
Do it do it do it !
it's a hell of a synth!
those sounds. the analog warmth is just beautiful! you should make an album with it!
The IL in the filter is the starting point for the attack level and the end point for release level (beneath filter).... the AL is the amount above filter cutoff (att end, decay start level) the reason there is no sustain level in the Filter envelope is they made the Sustain level equal to the filter cutoff for both hpf and lpf adjustment...
awesome, thanks for sharing man! i appreciate it.
The 16', 8', 4' etc. is a throw back to stops on a pipe organ. It signifies the length of the pipe that produces the sound. It lets the organist know at what octave at which the tone will be produced. Great machine.
so badass, thanks for sharing Jon!
Sliders 1:30 is better visualizer of how the sound may sound, than pots, and for envelopes you can see the ADSR curve and how it behaves.Personally i wish all my synths had sliders instead of pots (maybe cut off and resonance is better of with pots?).Lucky you Ricky for getting close to one of these....
Having a good aftertouch keyboard and reverb would make this a dream Vangelis soundtrack producing machine
I got to try CS40 today and it was the most amazing sounding synth I have ever heard in my life, nothing compares to those old anlogue yamaha synths. I couldn't Imagine what it's like to play with one of these or a cs-80. I'd trade every bleep bloop machine I have just to smell one.
Hahahahah best comment ever
won"t get fooled again
really nice editing decisions and track shots!
title placement for your insta upfront was smooth
Thanks Douglas! Trying to be as least intrusive as possible
Really one piece of serious synth ..amazing!
Ff doorsparen dus
this thing is so good its got me checking my credit card limit
It’s been my fav synth since I got mine. Love love love.
I'll bet a dollar that his friend John Tejada never gets his DD back! LOL. Great video!
I live vicariously through this channel
I have it and I confirm it's marvelous.
Man you're the Bob Ross of synths (and that's a compliment)
I have two CS-80's. One needs a wave shaping chip IG00158. Haven't been able to locate one for awhile. Becoming curious if the one used with the Deckards Dream clone is able to be modified to be compatable with an actual CS-80. Naturally if it was, I would want to still find an original one eventually, but would purchases one in a moments if it worked. Those of us who have the original are going to eventually need to start sourcing parts in unconventional ways. Unfortunately the Deckards Dream clone is a bit of a one trick pony, as the magic of the CS-80 lies in the polyphonic aftertouch, and its corresponding modulation controls. You have to play one to believe it. It is magical. That being said, perhaps the fine folks who back engineered the CS-80 to create Deckards Dream are willing to emulate the keyboard components of the CS-80, possibly as a universal controller so its use could enjoy a broader spectrum use.
I had one for 20 years and sold in 2000. Unless you are creating for film, giving synthposeums along side Susanne Ciani and her Buchla or
simply indulging in oneself, it is not , in my humble opinion, worth the money. The CS-80 has otherwise rendered itself useless in pop decades
ago. Think of where it made it"s mark. With the likes of a few preset patches { brass, strings, bass } great { organ, clav and gt } cheesy, it helped
pioneer pop music then.. I bought it for the prog rock of the day. It was fun and carried it around the USA with little synth problems. Fortunate
indeed!!! Ultimately, it had it"s day and unfortunately, due to gear lust of this generation it has been elevated to an unattainable cost for most.
Look Mum No Computers just did a segment on the original. You get a taste for how massive and expressive the original is.
@@excellentthings6268 I wouldn't get to set on that, a lot of cheesy pop effects come back in vogue and nostalgia can move units if its packaged right. LCD soundsystem has made classic tunes using a baldwin Fun Machine, which could be found on damn near any craigslist. It's about how its featured and mixed. The wave of recent 80's nostalgia is lost on me, gated reverb and cheesy drums, the abundance of cheap john carpenter imitations, never would have predicted that to be a thing but it is.
LMNC is going hit big time soon. He's a true engaging talent. Glad he got his hands on one.
@@saladdays180s9 Unfortunately it belonged to the studio he was visiting but given his talent i dont think lack of gear will be a hurdle hahaha
I would really like to watch more videos like this, where give shape to different sounds using Deckard's Dream, even in a little more detail on why the changes in settings create the new sound, this was a very inspiring video even when I don't own this synth. Great video.
Yeah we hear it. Oh boy do we hear it!!
Been a big fan of John's since the 90s, lovely sounding synth also :)
Nice! He's the man!
I'm gonna buy one. I am. I don't care. Divorce or not. lol.
Ya, me too. Jus have to do it! Most expressive synth out there.
Great review, I (we) love this synth, it truly is dreamy
Man, I just peeped your VCF releases on Spotify. Loving the raw re-samples aesthetic you got going on. Viewers of your channel need to show some love to those tracks in exchange for all the gear porn you provide the masses.
wow thank you!! i really appreciate it.
Brilliant demo, really nicely shot, and decent quality audio. This video made me subscribe :) Thank you!
Awesome! Welcome to the channel! I appreciate the kind comment
Amazing review. And a John Tejada synth, awesome!
This thing sounds freakin' marvelous.............even without FX..............top of my to-buy list.............
Their will only be one C-80 but Deckards Dream is a great synth all on it's own and has a beautiful analog tone, definitely one of my favorite modern analog synths.
good overview, thanks!
On the filter, IL is Initial Level and AL is Attack Level. I'm going to cut and paste from the MemoryMoon ME80 manual since it explains this well:
Sustain level is zero and matches with cutoff level.
IL: Initial Level when the envelope starts. 0 - -5 volts. (negative values.)
AL: Attack Level at the highest point. 0 - 5 volts. (positive values.)
Attack: Time to reach the highest point set by the Attack Level.
Decay: Time to reach zero.
Release: Time to reach IL. The envelope starts and ends with IL.
Incredible, thanks for digging this out for me David! I really appreciate it
@@RickyTinez Cheers, my pleasure! I love CS-80 stuff.
"This is a synth that can bring the toughest man to tears..." ha ha ha. Great vid - what a machine! Cheers.
not for the money
The oscillator range in feet is from organs. 16", the height of the organ pipe (low pitch) 2" hight pitch and 5-1/3 (Quint). Most vintage synths use feet, Roland, Moog, ARP 32, 16, 8, 4, 2 feet. :D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_stop
That synth is so smooth, i m gonna melt now
3.9k € ok i understand^^
Exactly haha. It better melt you
It's definitely a beaut. I completely understand paying the money for one of these but I could never do it myself. Anyone doing soundtracks at a professional level should own this. So much emotion in it.
Real love is paying the 5k with zero expectations of ever recouping the money just to be able to sit in your room alone and play with it. Obsessthesizer
@@kurbfeeler right on man, right on!!!
so true. otherwise, eh
This synth sounds great and seems to be a great clone of the CS-80. It's quite an achievement on it's own. But your video really shows how much of the original's character comes from the performance provided by it's expressive, polyphonic aftertouch keyboard.
Incredible.....! It's got all the lure of a 1970s Bontempi organ, what a demonstration! The mega group Trio could use it for a remake of their legendary wonder hit "Da da da"!...........Blimey, honestly, I ask you!!!
Thanks to your Review I finally decided to build one!!
fantastic review. i've got one of these and can attest that it is brilliant. this really helped me understand it better. cheers.
damn this thing is rad
just played along with your video with my lovely Arturia CS-80V which helped my kidney....
Instead of ADSR, more like ASMR.
I've had a CS-60 here for ten years.
The basic sound is very close to this; sounds like he nailed the PWM and filters.
It's a bummer that you have to get a separate unit for the ringmod, as that is one of the best parts of the original synth. Quivering float-y pads are one of it's top timbres, in addition to the wild percussive sweeps it can do. Once you try it you'll know what I mean haha.
Also, there's LOTS of funk to be found in that highpass filter - you can do clavi and organ timbres that twist and fart every which-way when combined with touch response..
And yeah....get a nice reverb (a phaser and delay wouldn't hurt either) strapped to the output of this PRONTO!!!
you're buds with John Tejada?!?!? there have been years of my life where i've only listened to his music
This thing is INSANE
Thanks for the wonderful overview! I would love to have one of those!
I love the blade runner reference
but what does the unicorn mean?
It means this synth is really a replicant, an imitation loaded with implanted memories called patches!
The 'Feet' unit in the oscillators range is related to the size of the ancient organs tubes. The biggest size (in feet) produce the lower tones.
Many vibes to be had in that box. Insane vid.
Very interesting. Fabulous!!
The reason they are flipped along the bottom is that they are modeled after organ draw bars which go up when pulled out or down in this case of yours sitting vertical.
This thing sounds so dreamy.
and yet , far fetched
Thanks for the great video, Enrique! Good seeing you at NAMM.
Was it true pleasure! Thanks for saying what's up!
Superb!!!
A dream machine! ❤️