I remember thinking "who the hell is this goalie?!" when Rask just slammed the door on Buffalo in the 1st round of those 2009-10 playoffs. Turned out to be a damn good goalie.
was about to do the same comment then saw yours, i was at one of the playoffgames he started and the crowd chanting TUKA TUKA you SUCK..to bad he didn't and he kicked our ass
He probably doesn't get in the hof which is a pity. Such an awesome, consistent goaltender for more than a decade. Boston's 2010's would have been so much different if they hadn't got the stability in net provided by Tuukka. In my heart he will always be the best goalie, those two penalty shot saves in Sochi vs USA were legendary.
He's 100% a borderline HOF and probably deserves a spot in a more fair HOF but with other goalies who deserve it more not in its hard to argue. He's absolutely of the best of his generation and I despise the detractors who have no logic or sense when talking about him. He took that team farther than they should have gone. I watched him stone wall a stacked Penguins team in 2013 and sweep them in the conference finals when the Bruins offense wasn't all that great in the series. Rask just stole it. I watched Fleury struggle in so many playoffs and fail much worse than Rask and while he has some detractors in Pittsburgh it's nothing like the shit Rask gets. Tim Thomas after winning a cup literally disappeared from the league suddenly but nobody shits on him for abandoning the team or says he did when what he did was similar if not more egregious than Rask leaving the bubble to see his child. The man deserves better than those Boston fans who cut him every chance they get and I believe on another team that was better at building depth, he wins a cup or more. Nobody ever looks at Boston not showing up or blowing it in big games like game 6 2013 or game 7 2019. They just look at Rask and not the team. Makes me sick. I'll use the Penguins again since I know them. You don't win on goalies alone nor lose. The Pens had back to back cups with a goalie who fell face first off a cliff not 2 seasons later. The team is every bit as responsible for losing or winning in 99% of situations but people would rather scape goat than look at the other players who did their job far worse than Rask.
I look at Rask as being similar to Price, though I'd argue Price is slightly better. Price still doesn't have a cup though he's given stanley cup level performances over multiple seasons. I think Tuukka has as well, it's just been unfortunate that neither of them have had the team needed for those runs. Shoot, just if Pasta hadn't messed up his hand during the playoffs then Boston might've done better against St Louis. Hardly Tuukka's fault though. Comparing him to Thomas, Tuukka has been far more consistent over a far longer period of time. Thomas by contrast really peaked for a few years and then disappeared.
@@adamg7984 I could see Boston having similar 2010's as Philadelphia if they didn't have Tuukka. Constant struggle to find a consistent starter while the rest of the team is certainly good enough to make noise in the playoffs. Boston definitely doesn't make it to finals twice without Tuukka.
@@afhostie Price is insurmountably better than Rask, he never consistently had a team as good as Rask in front of him, only a few seasons did that happen for him, and some of them he blew it in the playoffs (except his last season ever 😥where he made it to finals), mostly just that insane 09-10 run where Halak took over after 2 defeats against Washington, then Halak said no to the Caps and Penguins, the 2 best teams in the league one after the other beating them in 7, only to lose to another team who had deep injuries in their goalie roster (Philly), where somehow Michael Leighton managed to get 3 shutouts! Speaking of Halak, he's still available, and Pittsburgh's second goalie injured himself, they should sign him, he's still a very solid 2nd goaltender as he has proven since he got older and lost the first spot, the best free agent goaltender right now who doesn't want to retire. Back to Price, Rask never was close to a season like he had in 2014-15, where he pulled 1.96 GAA 44-16-6 9 Shutouts in 66 games and a .933 Save %, grabbing the Hart Memorial,Jennings,Vezina andTed Lindsay Award the same year... and he had such a "meh" team in front of him, other than maybe the best duo of d-men at the time as in Markov-Subban who had perfect, complete seasons, which was a rarity. We're condemned to injuries taking out our best players in MTL since so damn long, we already lost Dach and he was amazing to watch in those 2 games. Not saying Rask wasn't good because he sure damn was and like Price, the kind of goals he would give, the rare ones, often looked weak for some reason, and that's both of em.
It bewilders me that Tuukka was blamed at all for the Bruins losing to Chicago in 2013. He was unbelievable, and it took a fluky 'off the backboards' goal to beat him for the GWG (similar to the GWG Pitsburgh scored on Rinne in 2017). In 2019, while admittedly I didn't watch the finals, his numbers speak for themselves. He may have been the best goalie since he entered the league, certainly up there with Lundqvist, Price, and Rinne. As Shannon mentioned, his 921% SVP is third all time behind the likes of Hasek and Dryden, and a 925% playoff SVP is also ridiculous. Not even a Bruins fan but this goalie was a monster, and should be in the HOF.
To be fair, is it not unreasonable to be upset with a goalie giving up two goals in less than 30 seconds during a series deciding game. Yeah It was a fluke goal for one of them but to give up two and cost your team the game is unacceptable. I am certainly not one of those guys that think he was the problem for the series as a whole or ever a problem for the Bruins in general but you cant deny that when it mattered most, he just couldn't get it done. Overall a great career and an even kinder person so no hate but I don't think he deserves no criticism at all for the Chicago incident.
The Blackhawks in 2013 were the better team all year long, and that played out in the Finals. 2019, the entire team decided to take a collective shit on themselves in game 7, and that series should have been won. Que sera sera.
Appreciation for him putting his family ahead of his job. I feel sad for those that think differently. Kudos for him remaining with one team throughout his career. It's great also that he recognized and timely accepted retirement.
The fact he tried to come back shows he cared about the team. I can't believe people can sit and spew nonsense that he quit on them when he did so much more for Boston than any of the dopes who criticize the man.
"There was nobody from Boston... who complained about that decision" Well, no one within the organization. There are plenty of morons who still hammer him for that decision.
Agree 100%! There are so many dumb doorknobs who populate the Peanut Gallery they fail to appreciate what they have. Pre-Injury Rask, over 90% of NHL teams would leap at the chance of getting Tuukka if he was on the market. But so many of the doorknobs out there think any Goalie isn't worth spit if he doesn't go 16-0 in the playoffs with at least 10 or so shutouts. It's not just them being morons, but morons with standards bordering on the insane. And a news flash to those critical of him departing the Bubble in the '20 playoffs; he may done his team a favor. With a child going through a medical emergency, that's a formula for a distracted Goalie. And no Goalie can succeed distracted.
@@davepangburn and even if there goalie did go 16-0 j nthe playoffs but the next season they lost, they would say the goalies a wash up and a back up goalie .. God i hate how some people just run their mouths at anything they can these days lol
@@JWN2211 This is my sentiment too because I watched that happen to many goalies who won the cup early and then didn't get back or came up short the rest of their careers. Fleury was that way right until he helped win the 2017 cup for the Penguins. A lot of people in Pittsburgh ragged on one of the most lovable and talented goalies of his generation because he came up short between 2010 and 2016. Thankfully it was never as bad as people are with Rask but it's just asinine. Rask did so much for the team and Boston as a whole. He carried a team that otherwise was deficient in several ways to the finals twice. It's not Rask's fault the Bruins have struggled to provide depth beyond Bergeron, Marchand, Chara and Krejci almost all of their careers. And in 2019 the offense failed to show up for game 7. In 2013 the defense allowed a game tying and then game winning goal in less than 1 minute of time to lose the series at home. Sure, Rask takes some of that blame but people legitimately ONLY look to him. They don't question why twice in a minute with less than 2 minutes left to play that Chicago players were left unchecked or poorly checked in front of the net.
@@adamg7984 100% agree man that's well said. I'm not a Boston fan but that's exactly why I said what I said. People always find ways to blame the goalie in the playoffs wether it was on them or not.. so it's nice to hear a voice that actually agrees and is much more level headed about it. The people that just jump the gun and immediately blame the goalie for a game that wasn't even their fault are wrong in my opinion and are just looking for the easiest person to blame.. goalies gotta be the hardest postion to play for that reason alone. The amount of flack they take is usually unfair.
It seems reasonable that a career average stat like save % should be a function of the number of games played. Among goalies with at least 500 games played, Rask ranks second in all-time save % behind Hasek. That should count for at least something toward the hof.
I’ll never get over 2019, Tuukka was incredible during that playoff run yet all people remember is Game 7. That should’ve been Tuukka’s moment, hurts so much more now
Rask is 4th in career sv% of all time and tied 1st in playoff sv% by goalies with over 100 playoff games. I don't understand how you can argue not inducting STATISTICALLY the 4th best goalie in NHL history into the HOF.
Yeah, because my opinion matters to the HHOF committee? Rask has one Vezina, no Cups and was not a dominant goalie. Save percentage is a stat that is much different across various eras, so that doesn't necessarily mean hall of fame either. Fuhr had a .887 mark and definitely earned his spot in the hall.
@@TheHockeyGuy Of course it doesn't matter and im not claiming that. I'd also like to correct that Rask does have 1 cup, even though it did come as Thomas' backup. I think there's a pretty good comparison to make, which is Henrik Lundqvist. He has no cups and one vezina, worse but comparable stats to Rask and they've played in the same era. I don't think you can convincingly argue that Lundqvist belongs in the HOF but Rask doesn't.
Rask does NOT have a Cup, not on his record due to not playing a single minute in that run. Lundqvist played at a higher level for longer. He also has 459 wins whereas Rask has 308. It's not close.
@@TheHockeyGuy Is playing a single minute mandatory? As far as I know, Rask had his name etched on the Stanley cup and he has a cup ring. I completely understand the point about the wins/gp but there already are HOF goaltenders with less wins, so it's not exactly unprecedented.
Seeing Luongo, Lundqvist, Ryan Miller, and now Rask retire relatively close to each has made me feel old. Not to mention Fleury is probably in his last season and Price’s future is in doubt. Feels like my childhood has been destroyed like that.
I am pushing 50. Many of the baseball players I grew up adoring retired 20 years ago. The ones that came after have retired. That is the circle of life. What those players gave us were memories. That is valuable.
@@juhomantynen4638 I knew I was forgetting somebody as I was typing it. And I should remember Rinne especially since he was picked with a Lightning pick we traded away LOL.
I don't see a scenario where he isn't in the HOF in all honesty. I feel like you brushed over 3rd/4th overall save %, as many others do and it confuses me. I feel like it was known that GAA used to be the main goalie stat, but eventually people seemed to think GAA is also influenced by Defense so save % is the best stat to tell a goalies skill. Rask had the 3rd/4th (depending on source) highest save % ever with a lower GAA than those above him. Cups are team awards, based on his stats as a goalie he's literally top 5
Except that sv% is also influenced by defense. If they only allow for low danger shots from the outside and clear all rebounds (like Detroit in the early 00s) you can clearly see your goalie will by default have a higher sv %. In the same way, if your defense blocks a lot of shots, but at the same time likes to pass the puck to the opposing player and leave forwards uncovered in front of the net (like Seattle) your goalie will by default have a lower sv %. While the general skill of the goalie of course still matters in both cases, defense plays its part too.
@@toomanyquestionsjusttopost7281 it definitely does, however save % is not impacted by D nearly as much as GAA. Sure you can argue not all the saves were easy or hard, but it is literally the percent of pucks stopped by the goalie, not just goals against. Though still, until McAvoy, Rask had all of 1 defenseman; Chara.
As a goalie and Kings fan, even though I love Quick, Tuuka is the goalie I idolize from his generation. His smooth and efficient style gets overlooked by those that don’t know. His depth, positioning, skating, and reading of the shot are beyond elite. He makes it look easy, so people don’t give him credit. Just his consistency alone is better than any other goalie of his generation (maybe Hank). And his mask is as iconic as any in the history of the NHL.
Honestly, the way a lot of Bruins fans (figuratively) spat on Rask throughout his career is one of the biggest reasons I can't cheer for them. It's the only time a portion of a fanbase has managed to drive me away that effectively.
It’s very much a vocal minority who hate in him. Most see him for what he is - a superb and consistent goalie who made Boston better at times than they actually were
@@JPMadden true. It’s funny, the only people who dislike Rask are older than 35 (or atleast the ones I’ve met). All the younger fans tend to admire him.
As a finnish hockey fan that is goalie focused it is sad day. Feels like last of the finnish domination has left even more than when kipper called it quits. Every year one or two rise up as challengers but it feels like tide very much has turned from french canada to finns to russians.
Don't fret. The new generation is coming. Saros is the figurehead, Husso, Kähkönen, Lankinen etc. as the followers. In three years, it's going to be these four guys at the top.
@@Peksisarvinen there always is new finnish goalies rising to challenge and saros, husso, kähkönen and lankinen definetly are the next generation. But it just feels like end of a era with this and peksi rinne being out as well less than year ago. I mean who are boston sports media to blame now when things go wrong. Referees because blaming marchands silly antics is not an option xD
I have had him in my keeper league since 09, back when he was a back-up for Timmy Thomas, only now do I miss his reliability and consistency.. I think some Bruins fans will grow to appreciate Tuukka in time... Shame his career ended in this way.
If you want to know some reasons why there are those that were not a fan of his, here you go: Blew the 3-0 games lead against Philly Blew the 3-0 lead in game 7 against Philly 2 goals in 17 seconds (with less than 2 minutes to go in game 6) to lose the Cup to Chicago Didn't even give the team a chance in game 7 vs St Louis with those early goals He was a terrific goalie, except in those crucial games, and that is what bothers his haters
Listen as a habs fan I’m happy he is no longer going to be in my nightmares. However, as a hockey fan it’s sad to see him go out the way he did. While he didn’t have a hall of fame career he still had a damn good one with lots of success and has my respect
I would just want to thank tuukka for alot of us i Finland. We did love you for what you did and also the temper of yours. Because alot of us do have it and some of finnish goalies did had it when i did grow up. And you were a damn good goaltender!
Always one of my favorite players. Just the smoothest guy in net and loved playing for the B's. Definitely the scapegoat for a lot of fans when things didn't go right and unfortunately without a Cup as a starter, I just can't see him in the Hall
Rask had a very solid career. Sad to see it end this way, especially so early. I never quite understood all the hate he received, seems to me he was in the upper echelon of NHL goalies for the better part of his career. Have to agree, though, not quite a HOF career.
Tuuk is one of the best goalkeepers to ever have played in the NHL. To bad people never recognised him. 3rd best career Save% by goalies i NHL overall: 1. Dominik Hasek 735GP, 92,2% 2. Ken Dryden 397GP, 92,2% 3. Tuukka Rask 564GP, 92,1%
HOF = yes. Very simply, goalies are heald to a higher standard for the hall, to much higher of a standard. There are so few goalies out there compared to skaters, and I think because of that disparity in numbers, goalies have a harder time getting respect. Tuuka has the silverware, he's a chamipion, he's multiple finalist, he's started for the same team for a near decade with continual success, he survived a period of of reg. season struggle for 2 years to help his team back to the pinnicle, AAAND his numbers have been insane both inside and outside the playoffs. No brained here.
If even Tim Thomas doesn't get in the HOF I don't think Tuukka has a chance... Tim has a Stanley cup, two Vezina trophies and most importantly, a Conn Smythe. Tim's career was short, but those couple of years he had in Boston are some of the best years any goalie has had...ever Tuukka has a Stanley cup (kinda...he didn't get to contribute to that run at all) and a Vezina. Actually I'm gonna say it, Tuukka will not get in the HOF. His number might get retired by Boston, but the HOF is a bridge too far I think. And it's unfortunate, because I'm a Finn and would love to see him in the HOF, but I guess we'll see.
He never won the cup as a starter and lost 2 finals series when he was a starter. Not HOF but hall of bloody good. Not only was he not the starter for that Cup he didn't even play at all
As a fan of hockey for only my 3rd ongoing season, it's weird seeing some of who I consider the best to retire. I picked up on who the big names or the best of are real quick because hockey is great to me.
I think you pegged it exactly right-- not that he couldn't have, but didn't get the Cup will keep him out. I have a ton of respect for what it takes to be an NHL Goaltender.
An Amazing Goaltender, an Amazing dad, loving Husband and honest about his situation like he isn't going to be able to get a higher place. 1-2 goalie statistics in Boston's history being a 15 Year career on the same team! Thanks Tukka!! Enjoy your retirement and family..
Well Done, Best of Luck to Tuukka, He will be missed, i missed him against The Hurricanes the other night, Put his number in the rafters at TD Garden , As for The Hall Of Fame, would love to see it, but wont hold my breath waiting, Thank you for the video.
B's fan. I wish Tuukka got a longer wind down to his career. He's been incredible. HOF? Probably not - if he had two more cups, sure. Thanks for everything Tuukka!
One of the greatest goaltenders in Bruins history... it's too bad he wasn't quite able to get it done in the end, but, he got us to 2 finals appearances, all the regular season accolades. Its too bad, we'll be missing that backstop for a while yet I feel.
As a local, Tuukka's biggest "flaw", and the reason Boston never really warmed to him is because he's a prototypical Finn goalie and Boston is a Tim Thomas type of town. I don't agree with that sentiment, but it's what I've observed over the years. Tuukka didn't win hearts and minds by being brash and bold because that's not how he's wired, and Boston fans always acted like he thought he was above them because of it. (I love the Bruins but can't stand Boston sports bro dude culture.) Just a personality vs. market mismatch. I'm not glad he's retiring, I hate to see him go out this way, but this is what I expected to happen: he'd attempt to come back, it'd go poorly, and since he's kind of a perfectionist (and his heart hasn't really been in it the past couple years), he'd retire. I'm glad to see Swayman getting his shot at the big time, he's a joy to watch.
The goaltending battles between the Bruins and Rangers during this era were fantastic. Also I feel like part of the hate from B's fans toward Rask really stemmed from the collapse in 2010 vs Philly and some never really getting passed that
@@kailassila not saying the trade at the time was bad, its just funny how things turned out in following decade. Its results like this why i appreciate why vancouver and florida are such good trade partners historically, the guy you trade away is geographically as far as possible xD
Rask falls into the Osgood argument. In 98 all I heard was how Detroit won inspite of Osgood. In 99 when the Wings were even more stacked, Ossie got hurt and lost to the Avs. Same critics were saying they'd have won if Osgood had been fit. Go figure? Rask has been immense for Boston, see how well they do now he's gone.
For a Finn, he sure mastered the Bahstin dialect to a tee. I respect the hell out of him in that time for leaving the bubble. Sure you want players dialled in, in the heat of the moment but if his child's health is being severely affected, in that circumstance, he put the team first by admitting if he did play, he would not be in the right frame of mind and the score could've got ugly. I'm sure these people would've complained either way because they've an axe to grind.
I dont like the Bruins at all but much respect to the great players they have had since my time watching, Tukka is one of them. Great Goalie and i'm sad he wasn't able to make the comeback a reality. I'm sure its even harder for him knowing his body is done but he still desires to play. maybe a future in the front offices or behind a bench?
Well I called it long ago there was some bad karma in his raging, knew Boston not going to win cup with a rager. calmed down in time yes, but also his game went down with passing time too.
Ironically, Andrew Raycroft was asked to discuss Rask's career during the broadcast of last night's Bruins game. I've never understood why players in any team sport should be judged as failures because they did not personally lead their teams to a championship. (In baseball, was it Ted William's fault that the Red Sox team he played for was run by people who didn't know how to build a championship team, or because the Yankees were so dominant?)
Yes. He was on the active roster but didn't play a game in the playoffs that year. He was G2, a back up to Thomas. Not taking that away from him, he won like 20 games that year in regular season, so he contributed to the team's success
If he beats the Blues and Blackhawks in the finals, I think he’s a lock for the Hall, but without those wins I think he stands outside the Hall. It’s weird how much weight a few games has over a player’s entire career.
When I saw Rask play his last season in Finland I knew he's gonna be an NHL starter. He always had a temper, and having to be under Tim Thomas who was all instinct did hurt his technique a bit, cause he was on solid to begin with no need to go crazy! Most likely no HOF cause no Cup as a starter. Have to respect the fact that he took a shot and said he's not who he used to be and retire. Takes balls! Were not a lot of people in Boston were really fucked when he left the bubble, and also as he retired? FUCK them
I often wonder how the Leafs fortunes might have been different had they thought better of Rask instead backing/trading for Raycroft (bust #1) and having faith in Poggie (bust #2).
Let's not forget Pogge in 06 went undefeated leading Canada to Gold at the WJC. So if you where the Maple Leafs GM who would you choose to keep a Finnish gooltender or the Canadian Hero.
The year before, 2005, Canada won a gold medal with a goalie by the name of Jeff Glass. He didn't have much of an NHL career at all. In fact the only two netminders who had any kind of NHL career were the Slovak goalie Halak, and the Finnish goalie......... Tukka Rask. Maybe the Leafs had their hero already and and bet big on the wrong horse. Pogge's still around but he's like a backup in some European League.
One of the worst trades in Leafs history. I remember thinking what a steal! Raycrap did win Calder, shows my hockey IQ. Wonder if Leafs bury Rask if he stays, like all our goalies. Damn good goalie. Still hate the B's... No mention of all his freakouts? Dude has a temper!
oh this will be fun - leafs fans Just a bit more context to understand exactly how bad that trade really was. the main reason Tuuka Rask was deemed expendable by the leafs was because at the exact same time, they had Justin Pogge in their system who had a ton of success at the junior level. the difference is Pogge's success came playing for an absolutely stacked Calgary Hitmen team at the time, and then an absolutely stacked team Canada. Rask meanwhile was doing the hole "Kid playing against men" thing in Europe. and then played behind one of the worst Finnish teams in the modern era at the world juniors. He was literally the only thing good about them that year. if I remember correctly, their only win was a 50 something save Shut out by Tuukka. also the leafs were not a good team at the time, they were not close either. they were clearly on the down swing at the end of the Sundin/Kaberle/McCabe years. So bringing in raycroft, even if he had a bounce back season wasnt goin to do anything for them. it made no sense to trade a young promising goalie for risk like Raycroft, and it definately made no sence to trade the best goalie in the system.
Sad to see his career end the way it did. Like Rinne, probably deserved a Cup or two. Amazing to think of all the great Finnish goalies over the last twenty years the only one with a Cup is Niemi...
Jarome Iginla only made it past the first round with the Flames once in his career, no cups, a couple rocket richard trophies and a Lester B. Pearson but other than that no hardware, but because his individual stats including an amazing amount of goals, most of which were in the dead puck era, and solid consistent play and point totals, he easily, EASILY made it into the Hall of Fame. Tukka has the comparative stats when it comes to goalies and has gotten his team deep, into two finals in his career, and barely any goalies have a higher save percentage EVER, so how would he NOT get into the hall of fame? I don't really think it's much of a debate at all.
I think his stats are padded given having 6'9" Zdeno Chara in front of him majority of his time. That reach and Chara's ice time plays a significant role.
@@pale_saint only way to see if it is would be to look at his stats with and without Chara. From watching pretty much every Bruins game, really feels like he's trash without him.
@@richmello2710 Thats not how stats padding works, they would need to allow plenty of shots for his stats to stay significantly high and each goal let in would instantly bring the stats down on earth. Sure it helps with rebounds but good goalie dont allow rebounds anyway so it doesnt really matter in this case.
@@Jop3lius you think a 6'9" giant had NO effect on his stats, using his reach and moving smaller offensive players to side angles where shots would be easier to stop, over multiple seasons? I strongly disagree with that. My buddy is one of the biggest Rask fans I've ever met and he's the one that brought up the point, Chara had a significant influence on Rasks statistics.
@@richmello2710 if 6'9 giant is there blocking shots that affects negatively to his stats, not positively. I dont know if you realize but facing more shots gives you better opportunity to have a high saving percentage. He had average 27 shots faced each game his whole career which is league average. Now you are going to tell me Chara somehow affected that number are you?
Whether it was fair or not, Rask had the undesirable task of coming in after Tim Thomas. Bruins fans were very spoiled by that 2010-2011 season. Rask caught some blame for that 2013 cup loss, but looking back at the infamous "17 seconds" sequence, both goals feel much more like a lapse in defense than a lapse in goaltending. Lucic is just standing there and leaving Bickell wide open on that tying goal, and while Rask was out of position for the game winner, I'm still seeing a lot of standing around from Ferrence and Boychuck. I don't think that cup loss from 2013 ever left Tuuka's head. It wasn't his fault at all, but after that, I'd notice he would have these games where he'd make a bunch of crazy saves... only to give up a game winner to a generic wrist shot. Still, that 2019 cup loss was even more painful. He played well, but Binnington was simply the hottest goalie in hockey at that time. The 2019 Bruins got a taste of how the 2011 Canucks felt in their cup loss. If he makes the HOF, I think it's by virtue of his save percentage. He had a few solid seasons for *very* mediocre Bruins teams from 2014-2017 so I don't think it can even be argued that good defense was all that made him a great goalie. He's got a Vezna and a couple of other seasons where he was certainly worthy, but didn't win it. What hurts his HOF chances the most is a lack of cup while he was starting obviously. I would personally vote him in for his consistency, but I'm a little biased. lol
I don’t think he is HoF, but perhaps they retire his number in Boston.. they did for others with no cup and arguably not as elite a player as rask.. great team player and yes I think of the luongo comparison all the time with rask.
funny, I see it the opposite, that he's more likely to get into the HoF than getting his number retired here in Boston, because Boston fans were always hot and cold on him.
@@saatvikam I was looking back at Neely's number 8 specifically... no cup.. really great player, career shortened... but comparing an apple and an orange.. Rask was on that level I think.. but maybe not HoF without a cup.. I mean most wins of a goaltender in Bruins history is pretty amazing. But the attitude of many fans against Rask is stunning I agree.
.940 save percentage in the playoffs is insane. How many times has that been done in the history of hockey? I'm guessing less than five times.
I remember thinking "who the hell is this goalie?!" when Rask just slammed the door on Buffalo in the 1st round of those 2009-10 playoffs. Turned out to be a damn good goalie.
was about to do the same comment then saw yours, i was at one of the playoffgames he started and the crowd chanting TUKA TUKA you SUCK..to bad he didn't and he kicked our ass
He probably doesn't get in the hof which is a pity. Such an awesome, consistent goaltender for more than a decade. Boston's 2010's would have been so much different if they hadn't got the stability in net provided by Tuukka. In my heart he will always be the best goalie, those two penalty shot saves in Sochi vs USA were legendary.
He's 100% a borderline HOF and probably deserves a spot in a more fair HOF but with other goalies who deserve it more not in its hard to argue. He's absolutely of the best of his generation and I despise the detractors who have no logic or sense when talking about him.
He took that team farther than they should have gone. I watched him stone wall a stacked Penguins team in 2013 and sweep them in the conference finals when the Bruins offense wasn't all that great in the series. Rask just stole it.
I watched Fleury struggle in so many playoffs and fail much worse than Rask and while he has some detractors in Pittsburgh it's nothing like the shit Rask gets.
Tim Thomas after winning a cup literally disappeared from the league suddenly but nobody shits on him for abandoning the team or says he did when what he did was similar if not more egregious than Rask leaving the bubble to see his child.
The man deserves better than those Boston fans who cut him every chance they get and I believe on another team that was better at building depth, he wins a cup or more. Nobody ever looks at Boston not showing up or blowing it in big games like game 6 2013 or game 7 2019. They just look at Rask and not the team. Makes me sick.
I'll use the Penguins again since I know them. You don't win on goalies alone nor lose. The Pens had back to back cups with a goalie who fell face first off a cliff not 2 seasons later. The team is every bit as responsible for losing or winning in 99% of situations but people would rather scape goat than look at the other players who did their job far worse than Rask.
I look at Rask as being similar to Price, though I'd argue Price is slightly better. Price still doesn't have a cup though he's given stanley cup level performances over multiple seasons. I think Tuukka has as well, it's just been unfortunate that neither of them have had the team needed for those runs. Shoot, just if Pasta hadn't messed up his hand during the playoffs then Boston might've done better against St Louis. Hardly Tuukka's fault though.
Comparing him to Thomas, Tuukka has been far more consistent over a far longer period of time. Thomas by contrast really peaked for a few years and then disappeared.
@@adamg7984 I could see Boston having similar 2010's as Philadelphia if they didn't have Tuukka. Constant struggle to find a consistent starter while the rest of the team is certainly good enough to make noise in the playoffs. Boston definitely doesn't make it to finals twice without Tuukka.
Sad to say your right hell he doesn't get the respect he deserves in Boston
@@afhostie Price is insurmountably better than Rask, he never consistently had a team as good as Rask in front of him, only a few seasons did that happen for him, and some of them he blew it in the playoffs (except his last season ever 😥where he made it to finals), mostly just that insane 09-10 run where Halak took over after 2 defeats against Washington, then Halak said no to the Caps and Penguins, the 2 best teams in the league one after the other beating them in 7, only to lose to another team who had deep injuries in their goalie roster (Philly), where somehow Michael Leighton managed to get 3 shutouts!
Speaking of Halak, he's still available, and Pittsburgh's second goalie injured himself, they should sign him, he's still a very solid 2nd goaltender as he has proven since he got older and lost the first spot, the best free agent goaltender right now who doesn't want to retire.
Back to Price, Rask never was close to a season like he had in 2014-15, where he pulled 1.96 GAA 44-16-6 9 Shutouts in 66 games and a .933 Save %, grabbing the Hart Memorial,Jennings,Vezina andTed Lindsay Award the same year... and he had such a "meh" team in front of him, other than maybe the best duo of d-men at the time as in Markov-Subban who had perfect, complete seasons, which was a rarity. We're condemned to injuries taking out our best players in MTL since so damn long, we already lost Dach and he was amazing to watch in those 2 games.
Not saying Rask wasn't good because he sure damn was and like Price, the kind of goals he would give, the rare ones, often looked weak for some reason, and that's both of em.
The way he went out is tragic. He still had a lot in the tank, as a Bruins fan this hurts so much.
Sucks to see him get shorted but love to see you B fans eat it
Agreed. I had high hopes for his comeback. All the best to him and his family in retirement. He earned it!
It bewilders me that Tuukka was blamed at all for the Bruins losing to Chicago in 2013. He was unbelievable, and it took a fluky 'off the backboards' goal to beat him for the GWG (similar to the GWG Pitsburgh scored on Rinne in 2017). In 2019, while admittedly I didn't watch the finals, his numbers speak for themselves. He may have been the best goalie since he entered the league, certainly up there with Lundqvist, Price, and Rinne. As Shannon mentioned, his 921% SVP is third all time behind the likes of Hasek and Dryden, and a 925% playoff SVP is also ridiculous. Not even a Bruins fan but this goalie was a monster, and should be in the HOF.
To be fair, is it not unreasonable to be upset with a goalie giving up two goals in less than 30 seconds during a series deciding game. Yeah It was a fluke goal for one of them but to give up two and cost your team the game is unacceptable. I am certainly not one of those guys that think he was the problem for the series as a whole or ever a problem for the Bruins in general but you cant deny that when it mattered most, he just couldn't get it done. Overall a great career and an even kinder person so no hate but I don't think he deserves no criticism at all for the Chicago incident.
The Blackhawks in 2013 were the better team all year long, and that played out in the Finals. 2019, the entire team decided to take a collective shit on themselves in game 7, and that series should have been won. Que sera sera.
Appreciation for him putting his family ahead of his job. I feel sad for those that think differently.
Kudos for him remaining with one team throughout his career. It's great also that he recognized and timely accepted retirement.
The fact he tried to come back shows he cared about the team. I can't believe people can sit and spew nonsense that he quit on them when he did so much more for Boston than any of the dopes who criticize the man.
@@adamg7984 touché
"There was nobody from Boston... who complained about that decision"
Well, no one within the organization. There are plenty of morons who still hammer him for that decision.
Agree 100%! There are so many dumb doorknobs who populate the Peanut Gallery they fail to appreciate what they have. Pre-Injury Rask, over 90% of NHL teams would leap at the chance of getting Tuukka if he was on the market. But so many of the doorknobs out there think any Goalie isn't worth spit if he doesn't go 16-0 in the playoffs with at least 10 or so shutouts. It's not just them being morons, but morons with standards bordering on the insane. And a news flash to those critical of him departing the Bubble in the '20 playoffs; he may done his team a favor. With a child going through a medical emergency, that's a formula for a distracted Goalie. And no Goalie can succeed distracted.
@@davepangburn and even if there goalie did go 16-0 j nthe playoffs but the next season they lost, they would say the goalies a wash up and a back up goalie .. God i hate how some people just run their mouths at anything they can these days lol
@@JWN2211 This is my sentiment too because I watched that happen to many goalies who won the cup early and then didn't get back or came up short the rest of their careers. Fleury was that way right until he helped win the 2017 cup for the Penguins. A lot of people in Pittsburgh ragged on one of the most lovable and talented goalies of his generation because he came up short between 2010 and 2016. Thankfully it was never as bad as people are with Rask but it's just asinine. Rask did so much for the team and Boston as a whole. He carried a team that otherwise was deficient in several ways to the finals twice.
It's not Rask's fault the Bruins have struggled to provide depth beyond Bergeron, Marchand, Chara and Krejci almost all of their careers. And in 2019 the offense failed to show up for game 7. In 2013 the defense allowed a game tying and then game winning goal in less than 1 minute of time to lose the series at home. Sure, Rask takes some of that blame but people legitimately ONLY look to him. They don't question why twice in a minute with less than 2 minutes left to play that Chicago players were left unchecked or poorly checked in front of the net.
@@adamg7984 100% agree man that's well said. I'm not a Boston fan but that's exactly why I said what I said. People always find ways to blame the goalie in the playoffs wether it was on them or not.. so it's nice to hear a voice that actually agrees and is much more level headed about it. The people that just jump the gun and immediately blame the goalie for a game that wasn't even their fault are wrong in my opinion and are just looking for the easiest person to blame.. goalies gotta be the hardest postion to play for that reason alone. The amount of flack they take is usually unfair.
Hockey guy, can we talk about the asshat who let matt bartkowski suit for the bruins the 13 finals? That's the douche that cost Tuukka his cup.
It seems reasonable that a career average stat like save % should be a function of the number of games played. Among goalies with at least 500 games played, Rask ranks second in all-time save % behind Hasek. That should count for at least something toward the hof.
I’ll never get over 2019, Tuukka was incredible during that playoff run yet all people remember is Game 7. That should’ve been Tuukka’s moment, hurts so much more now
Rask is 4th in career sv% of all time and tied 1st in playoff sv% by goalies with over 100 playoff games.
I don't understand how you can argue not inducting STATISTICALLY the 4th best goalie in NHL history into the HOF.
This is someone who not too long ago stated he was on the fence with Bergeron's HoF candidacy, so take things with a very tiny grain of salt.
Yeah, because my opinion matters to the HHOF committee? Rask has one Vezina, no Cups and was not a dominant goalie. Save percentage is a stat that is much different across various eras, so that doesn't necessarily mean hall of fame either. Fuhr had a .887 mark and definitely earned his spot in the hall.
@@TheHockeyGuy Of course it doesn't matter and im not claiming that. I'd also like to correct that Rask does have 1 cup, even though it did come as Thomas' backup.
I think there's a pretty good comparison to make, which is Henrik Lundqvist. He has no cups and one vezina, worse but comparable stats to Rask and they've played in the same era. I don't think you can convincingly argue that Lundqvist belongs in the HOF but Rask doesn't.
Rask does NOT have a Cup, not on his record due to not playing a single minute in that run. Lundqvist played at a higher level for longer. He also has 459 wins whereas Rask has 308. It's not close.
@@TheHockeyGuy Is playing a single minute mandatory? As far as I know, Rask had his name etched on the Stanley cup and he has a cup ring.
I completely understand the point about the wins/gp but there already are HOF goaltenders with less wins, so it's not exactly unprecedented.
Love him or hate him one heck of a player
Seeing Luongo, Lundqvist, Ryan Miller, and now Rask retire relatively close to each has made me feel old. Not to mention Fleury is probably in his last season and Price’s future is in doubt. Feels like my childhood has been destroyed like that.
Rinne as well.
Dont forget Rinne
Craig Anderson is also going to retire soon too.
I am pushing 50. Many of the baseball players I grew up adoring retired 20 years ago. The ones that came after have retired. That is the circle of life. What those players gave us were memories. That is valuable.
@@juhomantynen4638 I knew I was forgetting somebody as I was typing it. And I should remember Rinne especially since he was picked with a Lightning pick we traded away LOL.
He was such a good goalie, Sad to see him go
Especially the way he does, such a shit ending for a great career
Ya, gonna suck with him gone with the goalies they have now, ya its gonna be some interesting times ahead in Boston!
I don't see a scenario where he isn't in the HOF in all honesty. I feel like you brushed over 3rd/4th overall save %, as many others do and it confuses me.
I feel like it was known that GAA used to be the main goalie stat, but eventually people seemed to think GAA is also influenced by Defense so save % is the best stat to tell a goalies skill. Rask had the 3rd/4th (depending on source) highest save % ever with a lower GAA than those above him. Cups are team awards, based on his stats as a goalie he's literally top 5
Except that sv% is also influenced by defense. If they only allow for low danger shots from the outside and clear all rebounds (like Detroit in the early 00s) you can clearly see your goalie will by default have a higher sv %. In the same way, if your defense blocks a lot of shots, but at the same time likes to pass the puck to the opposing player and leave forwards uncovered in front of the net (like Seattle) your goalie will by default have a lower sv %. While the general skill of the goalie of course still matters in both cases, defense plays its part too.
@@toomanyquestionsjusttopost7281 it definitely does, however save % is not impacted by D nearly as much as GAA. Sure you can argue not all the saves were easy or hard, but it is literally the percent of pucks stopped by the goalie, not just goals against. Though still, until McAvoy, Rask had all of 1 defenseman; Chara.
@@curifriend don't sleep on seidenberg
I wasn't ready for this but here we are
As a goalie and Kings fan, even though I love Quick, Tuuka is the goalie I idolize from his generation. His smooth and efficient style gets overlooked by those that don’t know. His depth, positioning, skating, and reading of the shot are beyond elite. He makes it look easy, so people don’t give him credit. Just his consistency alone is better than any other goalie of his generation (maybe Hank). And his mask is as iconic as any in the history of the NHL.
I think he’ll make it into the hall because he has international success to go along with his impressive NHL stats
That's a good point.
Honestly, the way a lot of Bruins fans (figuratively) spat on Rask throughout his career is one of the biggest reasons I can't cheer for them. It's the only time a portion of a fanbase has managed to drive me away that effectively.
I know many Bruins fans, and none of them hate Rask. I've encountered the irrational hatred of him only online.
It’s very much a vocal minority who hate in him. Most see him for what he is - a superb and consistent goalie who made Boston better at times than they actually were
@@JPMadden true. It’s funny, the only people who dislike Rask are older than 35 (or atleast the ones I’ve met). All the younger fans tend to admire him.
As a finnish hockey fan that is goalie focused it is sad day. Feels like last of the finnish domination has left even more than when kipper called it quits. Every year one or two rise up as challengers but it feels like tide very much has turned from french canada to finns to russians.
Don't fret. The new generation is coming. Saros is the figurehead, Husso, Kähkönen, Lankinen etc. as the followers. In three years, it's going to be these four guys at the top.
@@Peksisarvinen there always is new finnish goalies rising to challenge and saros, husso, kähkönen and lankinen definetly are the next generation. But it just feels like end of a era with this and peksi rinne being out as well less than year ago. I mean who are boston sports media to blame now when things go wrong. Referees because blaming marchands silly antics is not an option xD
I have had him in my keeper league since 09, back when he was a back-up for Timmy Thomas, only now do I miss his reliability and consistency.. I think some Bruins fans will grow to appreciate Tuukka in time... Shame his career ended in this way.
If you want to know some reasons why there are those that were not a fan of his, here you go:
Blew the 3-0 games lead against Philly
Blew the 3-0 lead in game 7 against Philly
2 goals in 17 seconds (with less than 2 minutes to go in game 6) to lose the Cup to Chicago
Didn't even give the team a chance in game 7 vs St Louis with those early goals
He was a terrific goalie, except in those crucial games, and that is what bothers his haters
End of an era. I'm gonna miss Tuukka so much :(.....
Going to really miss him
He was awesome... Wish he had a few more years on his tires... Love the cujo reference... Really puts things in perspective
Listen as a habs fan I’m happy he is no longer going to be in my nightmares. However, as a hockey fan it’s sad to see him go out the way he did. While he didn’t have a hall of fame career he still had a damn good one with lots of success and has my respect
Thanks for the memories Tuukka #40🐻🥅🐻
I would just want to thank tuukka for alot of us i Finland. We did love you for what you did and also the temper of yours. Because alot of us do have it and some of finnish goalies did had it when i did grow up. And you were a damn good goaltender!
Always one of my favorite players. Just the smoothest guy in net and loved playing for the B's. Definitely the scapegoat for a lot of fans when things didn't go right and unfortunately without a Cup as a starter, I just can't see him in the Hall
Trivia: Tim Thomas was the only American and one of only 6 non-Canadians (including Rask of course) on the 2011 Cup winning squad.
Rask had a very solid career. Sad to see it end this way, especially so early. I never quite understood all the hate he received, seems to me he was in the upper echelon of NHL goalies for the better part of his career. Have to agree, though, not quite a HOF career.
Tuuk is one of the best goalkeepers to ever have played in the NHL. To bad people never recognised him.
3rd best career Save% by goalies i NHL overall:
1. Dominik Hasek 735GP, 92,2%
2. Ken Dryden 397GP, 92,2%
3. Tuukka Rask 564GP, 92,1%
HOF = yes.
Very simply, goalies are heald to a higher standard for the hall, to much higher of a standard. There are so few goalies out there compared to skaters, and I think because of that disparity in numbers, goalies have a harder time getting respect.
Tuuka has the silverware,
he's a chamipion, he's multiple finalist,
he's started for the same team for a near decade with continual success,
he survived a period of of reg. season struggle for 2 years to help his team back to the pinnicle,
AAAND his numbers have been insane both inside and outside the playoffs.
No brained here.
If even Tim Thomas doesn't get in the HOF I don't think Tuukka has a chance...
Tim has a Stanley cup, two Vezina trophies and most importantly, a Conn Smythe. Tim's career was short, but those couple of years he had in Boston are some of the best years any goalie has had...ever
Tuukka has a Stanley cup (kinda...he didn't get to contribute to that run at all) and a Vezina.
Actually I'm gonna say it, Tuukka will not get in the HOF. His number might get retired by Boston, but the HOF is a bridge too far I think. And it's unfortunate, because I'm a Finn and would love to see him in the HOF, but I guess we'll see.
He never won the cup as a starter and lost 2 finals series when he was a starter. Not HOF but hall of bloody good. Not only was he not the starter for that Cup he didn't even play at all
@@jorssu13 Tim should get it too, the HOF isn't all about careers, it's about acheivements, pavel bureau and Al Mogilny as examples.
Tim Thomas was greatly respected in Finland before he made breakthrough at NHL. All the respect to the Rask!
Boston always has a way of pulling a goalie out from their keester that nobody saw coming.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 didn't see that coming - Abe Lincoln is here! 🤩
As a fan of hockey for only my 3rd ongoing season, it's weird seeing some of who I consider the best to retire. I picked up on who the big names or the best of are real quick because hockey is great to me.
I think you pegged it exactly right-- not that he couldn't have, but didn't get the Cup will keep him out. I have a ton of respect for what it takes to be an NHL Goaltender.
I'm not even a Boston fan and just hearing Rask-for-Raycroft makes me laugh...
Good going, Leafs...
Gonna miss that man
Rask - Lundqvist - Luongo : my Holy Trinity when I became a NHL hard follower about ten years ago
0.925 sv% in over 100 playoff games is in my opinion HoF statline.
That must be top 3 all time?
Impressive stat. He is a money goalie. ( good way. More important the game the better he plays. This helps proove that)
Yet never won a cup as a starter and lost 2 finals as a starter
@@XaviRonaldo0 it’s a team sports, chief
@@XaviRonaldo0 Cant score goals, therefor bad goalie.
An Amazing Goaltender, an Amazing dad, loving Husband and honest about his situation like he isn't going to be able to get a higher place. 1-2 goalie statistics in Boston's history being a 15 Year career on the same team! Thanks Tukka!! Enjoy your retirement and family..
Well Done, Best of Luck to Tuukka, He will be missed, i missed him against The Hurricanes the other night, Put his number in the rafters at TD Garden , As for The Hall Of Fame, would love to see it, but wont hold my breath waiting, Thank you for the video.
Tuukka Rask is more than deserving of being elected into the HOF. His accolades are too strong for him not to be in the HOF.
I think it was during the 2014 olympics where someone said "Tuukka... two u's, two k', no rebounds"
He absolutely eventually belongs in the HoF IMO.
Going to miss seeing him play for the B's
Tuukka Rask is my favorite goaltender.
B's fan. I wish Tuukka got a longer wind down to his career. He's been incredible. HOF? Probably not - if he had two more cups, sure. Thanks for everything Tuukka!
First, Rinne, then Henrik retiring and now Rask. Man, we were spoiled with some really great goalies in the mid 10s.
The last career video was Jim Carey. Now we have Tuukka Rask. He had a long productive career. Hall of Pretty Good and anti Jim Carey.
Not a Bruins fan but much respect to Tuukka Rask and his great career. Enjoy the next chapter Tuukka I know it will be even better.
Two Us, two Ks, two points.
Will always love Tuukka! Gets a raw deal from a lot of Bruins fans. Not me. Thank you Tuukks
Like Pekka Rinne. Just won the cup as a backup in his younger years.
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A thought for a future video based on the thumbnail would be on the best goalie masks of all time. Your rating of course.
One of the greatest goaltenders in Bruins history... it's too bad he wasn't quite able to get it done in the end, but, he got us to 2 finals appearances, all the regular season accolades. Its too bad, we'll be missing that backstop for a while yet I feel.
As a local, Tuukka's biggest "flaw", and the reason Boston never really warmed to him is because he's a prototypical Finn goalie and Boston is a Tim Thomas type of town. I don't agree with that sentiment, but it's what I've observed over the years. Tuukka didn't win hearts and minds by being brash and bold because that's not how he's wired, and Boston fans always acted like he thought he was above them because of it. (I love the Bruins but can't stand Boston sports bro dude culture.) Just a personality vs. market mismatch. I'm not glad he's retiring, I hate to see him go out this way, but this is what I expected to happen: he'd attempt to come back, it'd go poorly, and since he's kind of a perfectionist (and his heart hasn't really been in it the past couple years), he'd retire. I'm glad to see Swayman getting his shot at the big time, he's a joy to watch.
Only 34 years old. Same age as me. That sucks!
To think he retired at 34 when tim Thomas won the cup, vezina and the conn smythe at 37 is crazy AND that was after getting hip surgery as well
When he was the only player to leave the bubble things went downhill from there imo. Great goalie, hope everything works out for the Tuuk.
Rask had one of the best goalie masks....ever!
Absolutely the best. There was style in it... and the Finnish flag at the back. He looked as if he was born wearing it.
The goaltending battles between the Bruins and Rangers during this era were fantastic. Also I feel like part of the hate from B's fans toward Rask really stemmed from the collapse in 2010 vs Philly and some never really getting passed that
Tim Thomas was brilliant for a season, but Rask was remarkably consistent his entire career.
Tim Thomas was "brilliant for a season" yet has 2 Vezinas?
Bruins Hall of Fame Yes
NHL Hall of Fame Maybe, agree with you when you say there are many more deserving goalies
Like who?
Could you do a video on vegas cap space?
Toronto selling tuukka rask has to be the most literal definition of trade that bite you in the ash in long term there ever have been
You know why Tuukka Rask was sold by Toronto right? He isn't Canadian and Justin Pogge was a Canadian WJC hero at the time.
@@kailassila not saying the trade at the time was bad, its just funny how things turned out in following decade. Its results like this why i appreciate why vancouver and florida are such good trade partners historically, the guy you trade away is geographically as far as possible xD
It’s a shame you didn’t mention just how good Rask was in 2012-13 playoffs, guy put up 2011 Thomas numbers
Sucks to see him go. I was really excited for his comeback :(
Who is the best Finnish goalie of all time Rask? Kiprusoff? Rinne?
My fav of your videos
Toronto Maple Leafs legend Tuukka Rask
Ooooh I would love to see CuJo make it to the hall!!!!!
Rask falls into the Osgood argument. In 98 all I heard was how Detroit won inspite of Osgood. In 99 when the Wings were even more stacked, Ossie got hurt and lost to the Avs. Same critics were saying they'd have won if Osgood had been fit. Go figure? Rask has been immense for Boston, see how well they do now he's gone.
He's been a top 5 in my mind forever. Obviously, he has elite talent and his number should be retired, but he's not HOF.
If Willie O’Ree can have his number retired then Tuukka has to go to HoF
For a Finn, he sure mastered the Bahstin dialect to a tee.
I respect the hell out of him in that time for leaving the bubble. Sure you want players dialled in, in the heat of the moment but if his child's health is being severely affected, in that circumstance, he put the team first by admitting if he did play, he would not be in the right frame of mind and the score could've got ugly. I'm sure these people would've complained either way because they've an axe to grind.
Top 3 goalie of his era so I would say yes
I dont like the Bruins at all but much respect to the great players they have had since my time watching, Tukka is one of them. Great Goalie and i'm sad he wasn't able to make the comeback a reality. I'm sure its even harder for him knowing his body is done but he still desires to play. maybe a future in the front offices or behind a bench?
Solid Goalie. Played until the wheels fell off. Much respect.
TUKKKAAA!!!!
Still hoping for the Maxim Afinogenov career video. :)
I’d rather see Igor Larionov career video
@@pale_saint already done
Well I called it long ago there was some bad karma in his raging, knew Boston not going to win cup with a rager. calmed down in time yes, but also his game went down with passing time too.
He had an invite to another all star game. But he did turn it down.
Ironically, Andrew Raycroft was asked to discuss Rask's career during the broadcast of last night's Bruins game.
I've never understood why players in any team sport should be judged as failures because they did not personally lead their teams to a championship. (In baseball, was it Ted William's fault that the Red Sox team he played for was run by people who didn't know how to build a championship team, or because the Yankees were so dominant?)
Stanley cup final is has good has winning it, youre top 2, sometimes at 1 Win to have a ring on your finger. He deserves the consideration
I'm really confused here. So did Tuukka win the Stanley Cup or not? By that I mean - is he written on the list of Stanley Cup winners?
Damn right. He owns a ring.
Yes. He was on the active roster but didn't play a game in the playoffs that year. He was G2, a back up to Thomas. Not taking that away from him, he won like 20 games that year in regular season, so he contributed to the team's success
If he beats the Blues and Blackhawks in the finals, I think he’s a lock for the Hall, but without those wins I think he stands outside the Hall. It’s weird how much weight a few games has over a player’s entire career.
Can't fault a guy for wanting to be with his family, although I still feel it was premature for him to retire. I enjoyed his intensity as a goalie.
He is in the same tier for me as Crawford and Osgood so close but not close enough for the Hall of fame
the thumbnail says all you need to know about tuukka rask
When I saw Rask play his last season in Finland I knew he's gonna be an NHL starter. He always had a temper, and having to be under Tim Thomas who was all instinct did hurt his technique a bit, cause he was on solid to begin with no need to go crazy!
Most likely no HOF cause no Cup as a starter. Have to respect the fact that he took a shot and said he's not who he used to be and retire. Takes balls!
Were not a lot of people in Boston were really fucked when he left the bubble, and also as he retired? FUCK them
I often wonder how the Leafs fortunes might have been different had they thought better of Rask instead backing/trading for Raycroft (bust #1) and having faith in Poggie (bust #2).
Let's not forget Pogge in 06 went undefeated leading Canada to Gold at the WJC. So if you where the Maple Leafs GM who would you choose to keep a Finnish gooltender or the Canadian Hero.
The year before, 2005, Canada won a gold medal with a goalie by the name of Jeff Glass. He didn't have much of an NHL career at all. In fact the only two netminders who had any kind of NHL career were the Slovak goalie Halak, and the Finnish goalie......... Tukka Rask. Maybe the Leafs had their hero already and and bet big on the wrong horse. Pogge's still around but he's like a backup in some European League.
yes he is
A Tim Thomas video would be cool.
One of the worst trades in Leafs history. I remember thinking what a steal! Raycrap did win Calder, shows my hockey IQ. Wonder if Leafs bury Rask if he stays, like all our goalies. Damn good goalie. Still hate the B's... No mention of all his freakouts? Dude has a temper!
oh this will be fun - leafs fans
Just a bit more context to understand exactly how bad that trade really was.
the main reason Tuuka Rask was deemed expendable by the leafs was because at the exact same time, they had Justin Pogge in their system who had a ton of success at the junior level. the difference is Pogge's success came playing for an absolutely stacked Calgary Hitmen team at the time, and then an absolutely stacked team Canada.
Rask meanwhile was doing the hole "Kid playing against men" thing in Europe. and then played behind one of the worst Finnish teams in the modern era at the world juniors. He was literally the only thing good about them that year. if I remember correctly, their only win was a 50 something save Shut out by Tuukka.
also the leafs were not a good team at the time, they were not close either. they were clearly on the down swing at the end of the Sundin/Kaberle/McCabe years. So bringing in raycroft, even if he had a bounce back season wasnt goin to do anything for them.
it made no sense to trade a young promising goalie for risk like Raycroft, and it definately made no sence to trade the best goalie in the system.
Sad to see his career end the way it did. Like Rinne, probably deserved a Cup or two. Amazing to think of all the great Finnish goalies over the last twenty years the only one with a Cup is Niemi...
Oi! Niemi was a very good goalie in his prime.
Rask has one Stanley Cup from season 2010-2011
@@dosedin5862 As a starter, he was good enough to win a few...
Jarome Iginla only made it past the first round with the Flames once in his career, no cups, a couple rocket richard trophies and a Lester B. Pearson but other than that no hardware, but because his individual stats including an amazing amount of goals, most of which were in the dead puck era, and solid consistent play and point totals, he easily, EASILY made it into the Hall of Fame. Tukka has the comparative stats when it comes to goalies and has gotten his team deep, into two finals in his career, and barely any goalies have a higher save percentage EVER, so how would he NOT get into the hall of fame? I don't really think it's much of a debate at all.
I think his stats are padded given having 6'9" Zdeno Chara in front of him majority of his time. That reach and Chara's ice time plays a significant role.
Utter nonsense
@@pale_saint only way to see if it is would be to look at his stats with and without Chara. From watching pretty much every Bruins game, really feels like he's trash without him.
@@richmello2710 Thats not how stats padding works, they would need to allow plenty of shots for his stats to stay significantly high and each goal let in would instantly bring the stats down on earth. Sure it helps with rebounds but good goalie dont allow rebounds anyway so it doesnt really matter in this case.
@@Jop3lius you think a 6'9" giant had NO effect on his stats, using his reach and moving smaller offensive players to side angles where shots would be easier to stop, over multiple seasons? I strongly disagree with that. My buddy is one of the biggest Rask fans I've ever met and he's the one that brought up the point, Chara had a significant influence on Rasks statistics.
@@richmello2710 if 6'9 giant is there blocking shots that affects negatively to his stats, not positively. I dont know if you realize but facing more shots gives you better opportunity to have a high saving percentage. He had average 27 shots faced each game his whole career which is league average. Now you are going to tell me Chara somehow affected that number are you?
Do Raycroft next
Whether it was fair or not, Rask had the undesirable task of coming in after Tim Thomas. Bruins fans were very spoiled by that 2010-2011 season. Rask caught some blame for that 2013 cup loss, but looking back at the infamous "17 seconds" sequence, both goals feel much more like a lapse in defense than a lapse in goaltending. Lucic is just standing there and leaving Bickell wide open on that tying goal, and while Rask was out of position for the game winner, I'm still seeing a lot of standing around from Ferrence and Boychuck.
I don't think that cup loss from 2013 ever left Tuuka's head. It wasn't his fault at all, but after that, I'd notice he would have these games where he'd make a bunch of crazy saves... only to give up a game winner to a generic wrist shot. Still, that 2019 cup loss was even more painful. He played well, but Binnington was simply the hottest goalie in hockey at that time. The 2019 Bruins got a taste of how the 2011 Canucks felt in their cup loss.
If he makes the HOF, I think it's by virtue of his save percentage. He had a few solid seasons for *very* mediocre Bruins teams from 2014-2017 so I don't think it can even be argued that good defense was all that made him a great goalie. He's got a Vezna and a couple of other seasons where he was certainly worthy, but didn't win it. What hurts his HOF chances the most is a lack of cup while he was starting obviously. I would personally vote him in for his consistency, but I'm a little biased. lol
I would say he doesn't make it to the HOF but if he would of won at least 1 cup as a starter, then I think he would of eventually got in
Gonna miss ya Tuuk.
I don’t think he is HoF, but perhaps they retire his number in Boston.. they did for others with no cup and arguably not as elite a player as rask.. great team player and yes I think of the luongo comparison all the time with rask.
funny, I see it the opposite, that he's more likely to get into the HoF than getting his number retired here in Boston, because Boston fans were always hot and cold on him.
(I'd love to see both HoF and his number retired, personally and don't agree with Boston fan sentiment towards him in general!)
@@saatvikam I was looking back at Neely's number 8 specifically... no cup.. really great player, career shortened... but comparing an apple and an orange.. Rask was on that level I think.. but maybe not HoF without a cup.. I mean most wins of a goaltender in Bruins history is pretty amazing. But the attitude of many fans against Rask is stunning I agree.