There is a book called Married Saints and Blesseds: Through the Centuries By Ferdinand Holböck. It’s certainly worth it as a married person finding saints that you can relate to. After I got married I made a habit of finding as many married saints as I could and reading about their lives. There are actually quite a lot that most of us have never heard of and it’s very consoling to see the ordinary and extraordinary lives these holy husbands and wives lived.
I think there are so many celibate Saints because it’s generally easier for them to minister to thousands of people. But God himself made it a point to start the world with a married couple named Adam and Eve and to have Mary and Joseph (a married couple) raise God himself. I know Mary and Joseph were celibate but that’s different. They were still married. Being married is just usually a more quiet humble vocation.
There are actually a lot of married saints and blesseds, JPII canonized them out the wazoo because he recognized the need. They're just not the better known ones because their lives are often much less obviously dramatic than Paul or Benedict or Francis or Mother Teresa. Marriage is about living a more hidden holiness I think--the witness isn't as obvious as poverty, chastity, obedience.
I had a similar experience to Matt, I didn’t like Story of a Soul at first… i even quit reading it. She just seemed so frilly and girly and French and perfect, and I didn’t really like her. But about six months later I picked it back up, and I totally had a different view of her. She helped draw me to the Catholic Church and I chose her as my confirmation Saint. She is amazing!
We literally have almost the same exact story, but mine took years to discover just how amazing St Therese is. She is not my confirmation Saint but she is one of my best friends!
My wife and I learned on our Marriage Encounter experience that we become a unique entity through our matrimony. We both bring our individuality, but together as a couple we can achieve more than as individuals. That aspect of our sacrament is what can be saintly.
I actually think there are more married saints than you think. St Helen, the mother of Constantine, had the second number of church dedications in England after the Blessed Virgin.
The Saints are just like the rest of us, Students in the Spiritual life. There are many ways to learn from them. If one can relate, it's great! Most of the time, it's learning and discovering something new from them, and make it one's own. :D
There are plenty of married Saints, but you have to look back in time a long way to find most of them. Due to the technology growth and distraction of the recent centuries there are very few who live in the world who can attain the courageous virtue that is necessary before you can be considered for canonisation. I just listened to a talk on St Adelaide, and there is St Elizabeth of Hungary, St Rita, blessed Karl Von Hapsburg, St Monica, St Gianna Molla, St Helena, St Elizabeth Ann Seton, St Margaret Clithero, St Nicholas Von Flue, St Thomas More, St Margaret of Scotland, St Louis IX, St Anne and Joachim and of course, St Joseph and our Blessed Mother. Of course, Cameron, the virtue of some of these seems unattainable, but even if we can relate to just one aspect from their lives, then it was worth reading a chapter about them in the lives of the saints.
@@JackFalltrades I suppose only some of them were "normal". For some, it takes detachment from a normal married life to achieve sanctity. It is possible for others (Our Lady, St Anne, St Gianna, St Margaret) to teach sanctity whilst enjoying normalcy. Perhaps God has limited the number of canonised mothers because other mothers of the Church Militant are too busy to have their minds cluttered with the different paths to sanctity from a greater saintly mob than He had granted us, or maybe some other reasons - who knows? And does the reason matter? We can be grateful for the free examples we have. Also, remember that so many mothers attain heaven in obscurity, so there is no reason not to hope
@@JackFalltrades in many cases, I agree with you. This is not a slur against the young married state to say it, though, but merely a recognition that the supernatural order often mirrors the natural (or vice versa) - during the child bearing years, couples can be a bit distract-able. As age comes along, wisdom grows and passions are cooled by the waters of temperance: then can one find fewer obstacles to constant prayerful union with God. I haven't got there yet. Personally, I am still working on the elementary virtues (patience, for example) but my mob of anklebiters are a gift from God in this sense because virtue is a practised cooperation with the Grace of God, practise requiring the frequency offered by a child. Maybe, by the time the kids grow a little more, I might be a little holier. It would be inspiring to have a few more young married saints, but most in these categories are Martyrs from ancient times, I feel
Agree. But I would like to check out if it was due to Martyrdom, for maybe otherwise they would not had been cared about. Thomas More widowed, married again, I admire him deeply and pray to him, but it was his Martyrdom what made him canonized.
I identify with Saint Therese every time I do something 'little' like load the washing machine, or lay out a clean bed for my kids...or pray that they even see it... The secret is the 'little things" - God, knows the 'little things' we do, that are the building blocks of greater things. Doctors of the Church build 'foundations'...sound ones. That's the 'little way'.. How many of us have stood on the shoulders of 'little ones'. We say they were true and the world says they were wasting their time, nuns, monasteries, all of them. No! Why do I love St. Therese? Because she's me, she speaks to my heart that is so heavy sometimes, but knows the Way. Pray for us lovely St. Therese.
It is sad when people think Saints are a form of propagandizing what you want... Saints live HOLY (otherly) lives. They are not propaganda tools to support your pet project, even if it is something good like devoted married life. We all have plenty of little-s saints in our lives we can look up to. Our mothers. Our fathers. Our neighbors. They make fine Catholic role models. Canonized Saints are not, again, a propaganda tool to fix the problems you see in society. The more the church bureaucracy pretends to be able to do propaganda the worse our world will get. Saints are not useful talking points the church can exploit to achieve objectives, they are holy people called forth mysteriously by God and are recognized by the people of God in a similarly mysterious way that marks them as chosen by God, and specifically not by Church bureaucrats. That is why, when the Church is operating as it should, Saints take centuries to get on the calendar. Their cults emerge spontaneously and are sustained through the trials of the test of time.
@@Deadlift750 It really is. Cameron has chosen to completely forget that WE are called to step up and live like the Saints. Where as she wants to change the parameters of Saints so the Saints step down and resemble us more and so she may relate... Perhaps the questions that should have been asked in this video would be “how do I change my life so I am living more Saintly” rather than “how do we bring down the Sainthood so I may relate” This was an awful take and representation of a Catholics view of the Saints - esp when she admitted to have previously called Saint Terese a brat!
That was not at all what she meant with her statements. There surely have been so many married people throughout history that lived very holy lives but they were unknown to the world and never got canonized as Saints so it would have been nice to have those married role models displayed as well in our list of “Saints”. Who the Catholic church has “officially declared as saints” is not inclusive of the comprehensive list of Saints in heaven. So there are so many that should have been canonized and for various reasons didn’t go through the lengthy process. Blessings to you all and Happy Easter!
Hello there, That's an interesting comment. I'm not a religus sister nor a mother of a family but I can imagine that there aren't as many saints that are married because the world outside of the family circle doesn't necessarily know of all the holiness that is going on inside of the family (more specifically the relationship between the couple). I guess that's one of the beauties of marriage, having a front row seat to the story of the saint that is unfolding and always by your side while being married. And in the end, no matter what our state of life is, we are all called to be saints :)
How about we start praying for the canonization of Servant of God Empress Zita? Her husband, Emperor Karl, is already blessed. The church chose their wedding day as Emperor Karl’s feast day, so perhaps the church is anticipating they will both be canonized someday and celebrated on the same date.
That's like asking someone to do *both* the hardest jobs in the world simultaneously. We do have a few, but there's a reason most saints opted for virginity.
I don’t think it’s as unattainable as one might think. Adam and Eve and Mary and Joseph were married. God purposely made a point to make the beginning of the world start with a married couple and the most holy parents ever to raise God himself. Marriage is definitely a way to sainthood but being a parent is a more quiet vocation than say a priest who ministers to thousands of people throughout his priesthood.
@@Catholic-Perennialist what is with your hatred of saints? All over these comments I’ve seen you call the saints jokes and insinuated they’re somehow weak. Get a grip mate.
While I get the point - it is nice to have saints that we can relate to, saints aren't canonised on the basis of equal representation of the laity, but due to their extraordinary virtue. While there certainly were numerous married saints who did display extraordinary and heroic virtue, the celibate life is a more perfect and higher calling and it follows that as a result of that there are a greater number of saints who made that sacrifice and gave themselves over completely to God. I feel like there's this push recently to pretend like married life and celibacy are simply different but still equal callings and that categorically isn't true. There's a nice St Jerome quote out there that I remember reading at some point in reference to married priests in which he talks about men wishing to have the comforting embrace of his wife and to lie with her, enjoying all the sweetness of marriage and yet still reign in heaven alongside the martyrs and virgins.
I find you make a great point. Especially considering that marriage is a sense a natural calling, and if course it's a vocation and s way to holiness, but it's also a 'natural' way, people instinctively form romantic couples. And people marry and will marry regardless if they consider it a vocation. A celibate vocation (at least for most of the history) is, on the other hand, something that already shows a person is seriously devoted to God. (I mean of cpurse a celibate person who' has chosen to be celibate for the sake of the Kingdom of God, not e.g. by an unluck in finding a life partner or something.)
Maria de la Concepcion Cabrera was a Mexican married laywoman who had nine children. She had a very profound mystic life and founded the Apostleship of the Cross. She was beatified in 2019 and is an inspiration for thousands of lay and religious Catholics all around the world! The Apostleship of the Cross was a turning point in my life, especially by showing me the immense beautify of Christian Mysticism, and that every baptized person can grow their intimate relationship to our Lord Jesus Christ, no matter their vocation. I highly recommend looking into Conchita's writings and investigating more of the Apostleship of the Cross!
Haha I saw this video before I read the description and I was like Oh man, Matt is going to get in trouble with his wife for flirting with this pretty lady. Lol! 😅
@@spyroninja I'm a man. She's more of a warrior then most men. That's the first thing I got from story of a soul. Her willingness to follow God, that takes courage.
Disliked her a ton until I read her bio. But from the initial little synopsis of her life I’m like why do people adore this person so much? She did absolutely nothing
Bl. Emilian Kovch was a married priest with kids who nonetheless went to the grave with his sacrificial love during WWII. When his family sought to free him from the concentration camp, he wrote back saying that “besides heaven, this is the only place where I want to be.” Bl Franz Jaegerstaetter was a married layman who also lived during WWII and also went to the grave at the hands of the Nazis. When his wife wanted to free him he said “I am already free.”
They are relatable if you think about it differently. Many nuns and monks do stay up at night praying for you and me. I was reading about St Aloysius Gonzaga recently, and was asked by someone how I could find him relatable since he never fell into sin. I relate to him because he still had the same human condition and temptations and what not. We also relate to Christ even though he was never a biological Father. The celibate saints have adopted families. That being said, there are many saints who were married.
It’s not about being a nun, St. Therese spirituality is for everyone thats the thing. It’s the little way that can be lived in every state, it’s a way of complete trust.
The reality is that is Just more dificullt to be a saint and married because of the Nature of raising a famíly. Wanting or not have a husband/wife and children makes your focus tô be more intense in the material . Sorry for the English, i am Brazilian and my writing in english os boy very good
I read somewhere that one of the reasons that there are more *canonized* unmarried saints than married, is that many of these saints were in orders that were able to spend the time and gather the resources neccessary to bring about awareness of their holiness and so bring up their cause for canonization. Just want to point it out. I still do wish there were more *canonized* married couples to look to for inspiration, but I'm sure there are very many couples in heaven who we just don't know about, but are praying for us. :)
I rather believe in what saint Paul wrote: married men care for his spouse, unmarried men can care about God alone. Not many man can live as saint Joseph, without normal marital life and still being husband and father. Also, I our Lord said, there is no marriage in heaven, so there maybe men and women in heaven that were married on Earth, but not anymore.
@@kamilziemian995 I think that's very true. The modern "Catholic Church" (that is the "Vatican II" Church pretending to be the Catholic Church) has borrowed a lot of its modern ideas from other religions and denominations, like for instance Russian Orthodoxy, where celibacy among priests is very rare, and have developed the (basically lutheran) idea that married couples are equals to priests and nuns (supposedly only different in vocation, but not in sanctity, which is basically a lutheran idea). The True Traditional Catholic Church however (that is the Church as it had been up to the 1960's) did NOT see married life as equal to monastic life, and the traditional argument for that has been the exact Paulinian quote which you mentioned.
There are a number of Saints who were married. This list is by no means exhaustive. St. Elizabeth and St Zachary (Parents of John the Baptist) St. Joachim and St. Anne (Parents of Mary) St. Peter St. Aquila and St Priscilla (Companions of Paul at Ephesus and Corinth) St. Rita of Cassica St. Gregory (Bishop of Nazianus) and St. Nonna St. Gordianus and St. Silva St. Monica (Mother of St. Augustine) St. Francis Borgia St. Thomas More St. Margaret of Scotland St. Luis Martin and St Zelie Guerin Martin (The parents of Therese of Lisieux) St. Gianna Molla
There are so many married Saints… St Joseph is a married saint. St Monica, St Augustines mother. St Priscilla. St Rita. St Thomas More. St Valentine. St Lois and St Zelie Martin.
"I Wish There Were More MARRIED Saints!" I wish there were more saints, period. Also, with low marriage and high divorce rate now, we can't hope for many saintly couple in our age.
It remains a doctrine of the Church that consecrated virginity (not cranky bachelorhood) provides the means to a higher level of holiness than does the married state. This says nothing about how many such people achieve greater holiness, just that the possibility exists. The antiquity of an ascetic model of holiness in the Church can hardly be doubted.
I see what you mean, St. Margaret of Scotland is the only married Saint I can think of off the top of my head, apart from the virgin Mary who obviously didn't have a very "typical" marriage.
It appears people have such a harsh judgement of Saint Terese yet fail to read her whole story or get the point of why she said ‘the little ways matter’ As a child doing my confirmation when reading up on the Saints for a name none of them stood out to me and I just couldn’t fine one that I wanted to take the name off. Then I read about St Terese the little flower. Her story immediately jumped out at me and I connected immediately - I knew instantly that the little flower is who I wanted to be named after on my confirmation. It also appears both Matt and his wife have no idea on the point of the Saints! WE are meant to elevate ourselves up to Sainthood level NOT bring down the Saints to our level so we can ‘relate’ This is a shocking and disappointing take for this channel to have and even discuss tbh
I believe you are misinterpreting the Fradds. As married people it's difficult to 'elevate' ourselves to the sainthood of someone like Therese because her being a religious sister means she was in a totally different state in life. There are thousands of saints so we can't elevate ourselves to imitate ALL of them - we realistically will only imitate the saints we are drawn to
@@SuperSaiyanKrillin I think people just read the title then make an interpretation in their heads instead of listening through the whole conversation.
There’s plenty of married canonized saints they are just not as well-known and the vast majority are from the first millennium since celibacy wasn’t as promoted in the first millennium of Christianity as it was in the second. And most married canonized saints are from the eastern rites
The Blessed mother and Saint Joseph don't suffice her?!? The Saints that are and always will be the most high in status in Heaven are 2 married people.
"I Wish There Were More MARRIED Saints!" Don't blame bishops for so few married people lives saintly lives. How saint Paul wrote in one of his letters: married men care for his spouse, unmarried can care about God alone.
I hear you re wanting more married saints, but aren't we honestly just being forgetful? What married saints do we have?... Our Blessed Mother & St Joseph Zelle & Louis Martin St Monica St Barbara St Rita St Elizabeth Ann Seton was married St Gianna Molla St Joachim & Anne I'm sure there's more. ❤
- Sts. Timothy and Maura, martyrs - Bl. Luchesio and Buonadonna, the first Franciscan tertiaries - while not yet canonised, Garcia Moreno, martyr president of Ecuador
Needing to relate to a Saint is the most 21st century postmodern religious thing ever. Every other person who's married ever had to go through their own marital life without having a Saint to relate to....boo hoo. Not important. They had the same problem.
Despite of the modern Catholic Church is not agree with this. I support the Saint Hyeronimus teachings. Marriage is a lower condition than the consecrated and celibate life.
As a married man and father I am working on helping my wife to heaven by being her living hair shirt, a duty which I am, of course, duty bound to follow else she lose her soul. It is a difficult road for me, of course, having to force myself to be demanding and annoying, peevish and selfish and vulgar, but I must for her salvation. I give myself solace in oft repeating the words of the wicked witch as the water was poured on her and she melted: "Oh what a world what a world..."
Really? I found Teresa of the Andes and Teresita Quevedo very likeable. I think one of the big misconceptions about St. Therese is that people latch on to her name for herself - "the Little Flower" - fed think she was a delicate, flowery sort of girl. Once you realise that she was a choleric with a quick temper, deep feelings and strong will who had conquered her faults so well that the other nuns thought she was a sweet but very ordinary girl... you can do nothing but admire her. She's in the same line as St. Paul and St. Ignatius.
It’s funny I desire marriage but I always find myself looking up to the syllabus saints even though I know I will never be like most of them nor be able to relate to most of them but I picked Saint Francis of Assisi is my confirmation saint because he was a patron of animals and I’m a veterinary assistant. Unfortunately our radical feminist workforce does everything they can to make sure men who are rich will never make enough money to be attractive to women and the Catholic Church does nothing to help these young men out and instead tells them to consider a celibate vocation instead of marriage rather than help these young men find jobs that pay them enough to be attractive to women oh well
@@gray_mara Exactly! "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth... But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven... For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21) Virtue is much more attractive than vanity to a woman seeking a holy marriage, which I presume you'd want if you're a devout Catholic. 😄
The reason there are few married saints is because the Church adopted so much platonic philosophy as orthodoxy. Augustine himself said that the marital act could not be performed without sin. And Pseudo-Dionysius places the unmarried in ontological superiority to the married. The Church needs an overhaul.
I think an important thing to remember regarding married and unmarried saints is that the canonisation process takes many, many years. It’s much easier for an order or nuns or monks to push the course for one of their own then it is for say a family to advocate for a family member who they believe worthy of being canonised. That doesn’t mean that they aren’t lots of married saints in heaven but more that they will be forever hidden from the world and their good works will only be known by God.
There is a book called Married Saints and Blesseds: Through the Centuries
By Ferdinand Holböck.
It’s certainly worth it as a married person finding saints that you can relate to.
After I got married I made a habit of finding as many married saints as I could and reading about their lives.
There are actually quite a lot that most of us have never heard of and it’s very consoling to see the ordinary and extraordinary lives these holy husbands and wives lived.
Thank for this comment. I just went an ordered it.
I'm single and I've found so much inspiration and enlightenment from that book. It's great.
I always come back to Mary and Joseph. The two greatest saints in Heaven were spouses on Earth.
I think there are so many celibate Saints because it’s generally easier for them to minister to thousands of people. But God himself made it a point to start the world with a married couple named Adam and Eve and to have Mary and Joseph (a married couple) raise God himself. I know Mary and Joseph were celibate but that’s different. They were still married. Being married is just usually a more quiet humble vocation.
There are actually a lot of married saints and blesseds, JPII canonized them out the wazoo because he recognized the need. They're just not the better known ones because their lives are often much less obviously dramatic than Paul or Benedict or Francis or Mother Teresa. Marriage is about living a more hidden holiness I think--the witness isn't as obvious as poverty, chastity, obedience.
I had a similar experience to Matt, I didn’t like Story of a Soul at first… i even quit reading it. She just seemed so frilly and girly and French and perfect, and I didn’t really like her. But about six months later I picked it back up, and I totally had a different view of her. She helped draw me to the Catholic Church and I chose her as my confirmation Saint. She is amazing!
We literally have almost the same exact story, but mine took years to discover just how amazing St Therese is. She is not my confirmation Saint but she is one of my best friends!
I love St. Margaret of Scotland. She is an inspiration to me in her service to her husband, children, church, community, and country!
That would be a great series for Matt to do, married saints
My wife and I learned on our Marriage Encounter experience that we become a unique entity through our matrimony. We both bring our individuality, but together as a couple we can achieve more than as individuals. That aspect of our sacrament is what can be saintly.
I actually think there are more married saints than you think. St Helen, the mother of Constantine, had the second number of church dedications in England after the Blessed Virgin.
The Saints are just like the rest of us, Students in the Spiritual life. There are many ways to learn from them. If one can relate, it's great! Most of the time, it's learning and discovering something new from them, and make it one's own. :D
There are plenty of married Saints, but you have to look back in time a long way to find most of them. Due to the technology growth and distraction of the recent centuries there are very few who live in the world who can attain the courageous virtue that is necessary before you can be considered for canonisation. I just listened to a talk on St Adelaide, and there is St Elizabeth of Hungary, St Rita, blessed Karl Von Hapsburg, St Monica, St Gianna Molla, St Helena, St Elizabeth Ann Seton, St Margaret Clithero, St Nicholas Von Flue, St Thomas More, St Margaret of Scotland, St Louis IX, St Anne and Joachim and of course, St Joseph and our Blessed Mother. Of course, Cameron, the virtue of some of these seems unattainable, but even if we can relate to just one aspect from their lives, then it was worth reading a chapter about them in the lives of the saints.
@@JackFalltrades I suppose only some of them were "normal". For some, it takes detachment from a normal married life to achieve sanctity. It is possible for others (Our Lady, St Anne, St Gianna, St Margaret) to teach sanctity whilst enjoying normalcy. Perhaps God has limited the number of canonised mothers because other mothers of the Church Militant are too busy to have their minds cluttered with the different paths to sanctity from a greater saintly mob than He had granted us, or maybe some other reasons - who knows? And does the reason matter? We can be grateful for the free examples we have. Also, remember that so many mothers attain heaven in obscurity, so there is no reason not to hope
@@JackFalltrades in many cases, I agree with you. This is not a slur against the young married state to say it, though, but merely a recognition that the supernatural order often mirrors the natural (or vice versa) - during the child bearing years, couples can be a bit distract-able. As age comes along, wisdom grows and passions are cooled by the waters of temperance: then can one find fewer obstacles to constant prayerful union with God. I haven't got there yet. Personally, I am still working on the elementary virtues (patience, for example) but my mob of anklebiters are a gift from God in this sense because virtue is a practised cooperation with the Grace of God, practise requiring the frequency offered by a child. Maybe, by the time the kids grow a little more, I might be a little holier. It would be inspiring to have a few more young married saints, but most in these categories are Martyrs from ancient times, I feel
Agree. But I would like to check out if it was due to Martyrdom, for maybe otherwise they would not had been cared about. Thomas More widowed, married again, I admire him deeply and pray to him, but it was his Martyrdom what made him canonized.
Cameron you're so right! More mom saints!!
I identify with Saint Therese every time I do something 'little' like load the washing machine, or lay out a clean bed for my kids...or pray that they even see it...
The secret is the 'little things" - God, knows the 'little things' we do, that are the building blocks of greater things.
Doctors of the Church build 'foundations'...sound ones. That's the 'little way'..
How many of us have stood on the shoulders of 'little ones'. We say they were true and the world says they were wasting their time, nuns, monasteries, all of them. No!
Why do I love St. Therese? Because she's me, she speaks to my heart that is so heavy sometimes, but knows the Way.
Pray for us lovely St. Therese.
It is sad when people think Saints are a form of propagandizing what you want... Saints live HOLY (otherly) lives. They are not propaganda tools to support your pet project, even if it is something good like devoted married life. We all have plenty of little-s saints in our lives we can look up to. Our mothers. Our fathers. Our neighbors. They make fine Catholic role models. Canonized Saints are not, again, a propaganda tool to fix the problems you see in society. The more the church bureaucracy pretends to be able to do propaganda the worse our world will get. Saints are not useful talking points the church can exploit to achieve objectives, they are holy people called forth mysteriously by God and are recognized by the people of God in a similarly mysterious way that marks them as chosen by God, and specifically not by Church bureaucrats. That is why, when the Church is operating as it should, Saints take centuries to get on the calendar. Their cults emerge spontaneously and are sustained through the trials of the test of time.
Excellent. Beautifully explained.
@@Deadlift750 It really is.
Cameron has chosen to completely forget that WE are called to step up and live like the Saints.
Where as she wants to change the parameters of Saints so the Saints step down and resemble us more and so she may relate...
Perhaps the questions that should have been asked in this video would be “how do I change my life so I am living more Saintly” rather than “how do we bring down the Sainthood so I may relate”
This was an awful take and representation of a Catholics view of the Saints - esp when she admitted to have previously called Saint Terese a brat!
That was not at all what she meant with her statements. There surely have been so many married people throughout history that lived very holy lives but they were unknown to the world and never got canonized as Saints so it would have been nice to have those married role models displayed as well in our list of “Saints”. Who the Catholic church has “officially declared as saints” is not inclusive of the comprehensive list of Saints in heaven. So there are so many that should have been canonized and for various reasons didn’t go through the lengthy process. Blessings to you all and Happy Easter!
Hello there, That's an interesting comment. I'm not a religus sister nor a mother of a family but I can imagine that there aren't as many saints that are married because the world outside of the family circle doesn't necessarily know of all the holiness that is going on inside of the family (more specifically the relationship between the couple). I guess that's one of the beauties of marriage, having a front row seat to the story of the saint that is unfolding and always by your side while being married.
And in the end, no matter what our state of life is, we are all called to be saints :)
How about we start praying for the canonization of Servant of God Empress Zita? Her husband, Emperor Karl, is already blessed. The church chose their wedding day as Emperor Karl’s feast day, so perhaps the church is anticipating they will both be canonized someday and celebrated on the same date.
That's like asking someone to do *both* the hardest jobs in the world simultaneously. We do have a few, but there's a reason most saints opted for virginity.
But this is precisely why the married are so much more worthy of sainthood. They have attempted what the celibates did not dare.
I don’t think it’s as unattainable as one might think. Adam and Eve and Mary and Joseph were married. God purposely made a point to make the beginning of the world start with a married couple and the most holy parents ever to raise God himself. Marriage is definitely a way to sainthood but being a parent is a more quiet vocation than say a priest who ministers to thousands of people throughout his priesthood.
Well the celibate saints were called to live that way, they didn't choose it. Not everyone is called to live a clergy, celibate life.
@@Catholic-Perennialist what is with your hatred of saints? All over these comments I’ve seen you call the saints jokes and insinuated they’re somehow weak. Get a grip mate.
@@gray_mara Every parent who parents well, does so by putting God first.
While I get the point - it is nice to have saints that we can relate to, saints aren't canonised on the basis of equal representation of the laity, but due to their extraordinary virtue. While there certainly were numerous married saints who did display extraordinary and heroic virtue, the celibate life is a more perfect and higher calling and it follows that as a result of that there are a greater number of saints who made that sacrifice and gave themselves over completely to God. I feel like there's this push recently to pretend like married life and celibacy are simply different but still equal callings and that categorically isn't true.
There's a nice St Jerome quote out there that I remember reading at some point in reference to married priests in which he talks about men wishing to have the comforting embrace of his wife and to lie with her, enjoying all the sweetness of marriage and yet still reign in heaven alongside the martyrs and virgins.
I find you make a great point. Especially considering that marriage is a sense a natural calling, and if course it's a vocation and s way to holiness, but it's also a 'natural' way, people instinctively form romantic couples. And people marry and will marry regardless if they consider it a vocation.
A celibate vocation (at least for most of the history) is, on the other hand, something that already shows a person is seriously devoted to God. (I mean of cpurse a celibate person who' has chosen to be celibate for the sake of the Kingdom of God, not e.g. by an unluck in finding a life partner or something.)
I can relate to saints weather they are married or not. Whats the problem? We each, must attain heaven as individuals, despite being married.
Maria de la Concepcion Cabrera was a Mexican married laywoman who had nine children. She had a very profound mystic life and founded the Apostleship of the Cross. She was beatified in 2019 and is an inspiration for thousands of lay and religious Catholics all around the world! The Apostleship of the Cross was a turning point in my life, especially by showing me the immense beautify of Christian Mysticism, and that every baptized person can grow their intimate relationship to our Lord Jesus Christ, no matter their vocation. I highly recommend looking into Conchita's writings and investigating more of the Apostleship of the Cross!
Haha I saw this video before I read the description and I was like Oh man, Matt is going to get in trouble with his wife for flirting with this pretty lady. Lol! 😅
How can you not like saint Therese the first time. She was born a Saint
Story of a Soul is hard to read especially for men
@@spyroninja I'm a man. She's more of a warrior then most men. That's the first thing I got from story of a soul. Her willingness to follow God, that takes courage.
Disliked her a ton until I read her bio. But from the initial little synopsis of her life I’m like why do people adore this person so much? She did absolutely nothing
@@Hanna-se3vr she showed us a new way to get into heaven.
Bl. Emilian Kovch was a married priest with kids who nonetheless went to the grave with his sacrificial love during WWII. When his family sought to free him from the concentration camp, he wrote back saying that “besides heaven, this is the only place where I want to be.”
Bl Franz Jaegerstaetter was a married layman who also lived during WWII and also went to the grave at the hands of the Nazis. When his wife wanted to free him he said “I am already free.”
They are relatable if you think about it differently. Many nuns and monks do stay up at night praying for you and me.
I was reading about St Aloysius Gonzaga recently, and was asked by someone how I could find him relatable since he never fell into sin. I relate to him because he still had the same human condition and temptations and what not. We also relate to Christ even though he was never a biological Father. The celibate saints have adopted families. That being said, there are many saints who were married.
My husband and I converted and chose Louis and Zelié as our confirmation saints. Relating to them was the exact reason I picked Zelié.
It’s not about being a nun, St. Therese spirituality is for everyone thats the thing.
It’s the little way that can be lived in every state, it’s a way of complete trust.
Many Like Saint Monica and Saint Bridget of Sweden were married.
There are so many millions of married saints. They’re as silent as St. Joseph.
Yes, yes, yes. Oh my God, I just saw the title and was like: YES!!! Saint couple, saint marriages!
The reality is that is Just more dificullt to be a saint and married because of the Nature of raising a famíly. Wanting or not have a husband/wife and children makes your focus tô be more intense in the material . Sorry for the English, i am Brazilian and my writing in english os boy very good
Feel free to add your thoughts in Portuguese.
You know! I've always felt the same way, but until a few years after becoming a mother, I now relate to the Saints parents!
When Sts. Louis and Zelie got canonized, their feast day was declared on our wedding anniversary.
I was VERY happy about that, lol.
I love seeing Cameron and I love that she loves St Zellie Martin. I thought I might be the only one. Lol
What's the purpose of the Sips with Aquinas channel if clips are posted here?
I read somewhere that one of the reasons that there are more *canonized* unmarried saints than married, is that many of these saints were in orders that were able to spend the time and gather the resources neccessary to bring about awareness of their holiness and so bring up their cause for canonization.
Just want to point it out. I still do wish there were more *canonized* married couples to look to for inspiration, but I'm sure there are very many couples in heaven who we just don't know about, but are praying for us. :)
I rather believe in what saint Paul wrote: married men care for his spouse, unmarried men can care about God alone. Not many man can live as saint Joseph, without normal marital life and still being husband and father.
Also, I our Lord said, there is no marriage in heaven, so there maybe men and women in heaven that were married on Earth, but not anymore.
@@kamilziemian995 I think that's very true. The modern "Catholic Church" (that is the "Vatican II" Church pretending to be the Catholic Church) has borrowed a lot of its modern ideas from other religions and denominations, like for instance Russian Orthodoxy, where celibacy among priests is very rare, and have developed the (basically lutheran) idea that married couples are equals to priests and nuns (supposedly only different in vocation, but not in sanctity, which is basically a lutheran idea). The True Traditional Catholic Church however (that is the Church as it had been up to the 1960's) did NOT see married life as equal to monastic life, and the traditional argument for that has been the exact Paulinian quote which you mentioned.
Saint Monica is amazing! Great video!
There are a number of Saints who were married. This list is by no means exhaustive.
St. Elizabeth and St Zachary (Parents of John the Baptist)
St. Joachim and St. Anne (Parents of Mary)
St. Peter
St. Aquila and St Priscilla (Companions of Paul at Ephesus and Corinth)
St. Rita of Cassica
St. Gregory (Bishop of Nazianus) and St. Nonna
St. Gordianus and St. Silva
St. Monica (Mother of St. Augustine)
St. Francis Borgia
St. Thomas More
St. Margaret of Scotland
St. Luis Martin and St Zelie Guerin Martin (The parents of Therese of Lisieux)
St. Gianna Molla
Hey honey! Guess what? I'm a saint!
Sure you are dear
There are so many married Saints… St Joseph is a married saint. St Monica, St Augustines mother. St Priscilla. St Rita. St Thomas More. St Valentine. St Lois and St Zelie Martin.
Hopefully Élisabeth and Félix Leseur will be canonized. Their story in the book Salt and Light was a real page-turner!
Marriage fills the earth, Virginity fills heaven. St Jerome
All of those virgins had to come from somewhere
"I Wish There Were More MARRIED Saints!" I wish there were more saints, period. Also, with low marriage and high divorce rate now, we can't hope for many saintly couple in our age.
It remains a doctrine of the Church that consecrated virginity (not cranky bachelorhood) provides the means to a higher level of holiness than does the married state. This says nothing about how many such people achieve greater holiness, just that the possibility exists. The antiquity of an ascetic model of holiness in the Church can hardly be doubted.
I see what you mean, St. Margaret of Scotland is the only married Saint I can think of off the top of my head, apart from the virgin Mary who obviously didn't have a very "typical" marriage.
Some of the (canonized) nuns were married before entering the cloister. Different times... St. Bridget of Sweden is one example.
St Peter was a married saint
It appears people have such a harsh judgement of Saint Terese yet fail to read her whole story or get the point of why she said ‘the little ways matter’
As a child doing my confirmation when reading up on the Saints for a name none of them stood out to me and I just couldn’t fine one that I wanted to take the name off.
Then I read about St Terese the little flower.
Her story immediately jumped out at me and I connected immediately - I knew instantly that the little flower is who I wanted to be named after on my confirmation.
It also appears both Matt and his wife have no idea on the point of the Saints!
WE are meant to elevate ourselves up to Sainthood level NOT bring down the Saints to our level so we can ‘relate’
This is a shocking and disappointing take for this channel to have and even discuss tbh
I believe you are misinterpreting the Fradds. As married people it's difficult to 'elevate' ourselves to the sainthood of someone like Therese because her being a religious sister means she was in a totally different state in life. There are thousands of saints so we can't elevate ourselves to imitate ALL of them - we realistically will only imitate the saints we are drawn to
@@SuperSaiyanKrillin I think people just read the title then make an interpretation in their heads instead of listening through the whole conversation.
It’s the same. The nuns hold a marriage with Christ. I pray that married couples grasp this.
Matt, you might enjoy reading Everything is Grace: The Life and Way of Therese of Lisieux
Book by Joseph F. Schmidt. Perhaps you already have.
There’s plenty of married canonized saints they are just not as well-known and the vast majority are from the first millennium since celibacy wasn’t as promoted in the first millennium of Christianity as it was in the second. And most married canonized saints are from the eastern rites
The Blessed mother and Saint Joseph don't suffice her?!? The Saints that are and always will be the most high in status in Heaven are 2 married people.
"I Wish There Were More MARRIED Saints!" Don't blame bishops for so few married people lives saintly lives. How saint Paul wrote in one of his letters: married men care for his spouse, unmarried can care about God alone.
I hear you re wanting more married saints, but aren't we honestly just being forgetful? What married saints do we have?...
Our Blessed Mother & St Joseph
Zelle & Louis Martin
St Monica
St Barbara
St Rita
St Elizabeth Ann Seton was married
St Gianna Molla
St Joachim & Anne
I'm sure there's more. ❤
St. Frances of Rome
Blessed Anna Maria Taigi
St. Elizabeth of Hungary
St. Louis IX
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- Sts. Timothy and Maura, martyrs
- Bl. Luchesio and Buonadonna, the first Franciscan tertiaries
- while not yet canonised, Garcia Moreno, martyr president of Ecuador
Needing to relate to a Saint is the most 21st century postmodern religious thing ever. Every other person who's married ever had to go through their own marital life without having a Saint to relate to....boo hoo. Not important. They had the same problem.
There has been heaps of married Saints. Sounds like people need to look harder.
Despite of the modern Catholic Church is not agree with this. I support the Saint Hyeronimus teachings. Marriage is a lower condition than the consecrated and celibate life.
🤣it is impossible to be married and to be a saint!
Wrong.
@@marcuscaballarius2159 You must trolling? Clearly you did not think I was serious?
Check « 10 Married Saints » by Becky Roach
Levis Shalom
How to be holy as a Married couple ?
Serve people in the streets acts of charity and dont make excuses 😄
Detach from worldly things ..
Looking for more saints that were just lay single people like me.
As a married man and father I am working on helping my wife to heaven by being her living hair shirt, a duty which I am, of course, duty bound to follow else she lose her soul. It is a difficult road for me, of course, having to force myself to be demanding and annoying, peevish and selfish and vulgar, but I must for her salvation. I give myself solace in oft repeating the words of the wicked witch as the water was poured on her and she melted: "Oh what a world what a world..."
Wasn’t St Thomas Moore married?
Yes. He was also a Franciscan tertiary, so had embraced a rule of life to aim at a higher perfection in the world :)
Very typical for Carmelites not to be well liked. Our spirituality isn’t well received
Really? I found Teresa of the Andes and Teresita Quevedo very likeable.
I think one of the big misconceptions about St. Therese is that people latch on to her name for herself - "the Little Flower" - fed think she was a delicate, flowery sort of girl. Once you realise that she was a choleric with a quick temper, deep feelings and strong will who had conquered her faults so well that the other nuns thought she was a sweet but very ordinary girl... you can do nothing but admire her. She's in the same line as St. Paul and St. Ignatius.
Only one diocesan parish priest has been canonized.
I agree with her.
Your outro makes me want to downvote your video. But your wife makes me want to upvote... I seem to be at an impass...
ok
Yeah... I'm not sure if it's your main reason, but it's high time to get rid of Liquid Death outro, this company is very disturbing ethically :(
@@angrypotato_fz I agree. Thanks for the feedback
It’s funny I desire marriage but I always find myself looking up to the syllabus saints even though I know I will never be like most of them nor be able to relate to most of them but I picked Saint Francis of Assisi is my confirmation saint because he was a patron of animals and I’m a veterinary assistant. Unfortunately our radical feminist workforce does everything they can to make sure men who are rich will never make enough money to be attractive to women and the Catholic Church does nothing to help these young men out and instead tells them to consider a celibate vocation instead of marriage rather than help these young men find jobs that pay them enough to be attractive to women oh well
You don't need lots of money to be attractive to women and it's not the Church's responsibility to help you find a spouse?
@@gray_mara Exactly!
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth... But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven... For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:19-21)
Virtue is much more attractive than vanity to a woman seeking a holy marriage, which I presume you'd want if you're a devout Catholic. 😄
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The reason there are few married saints is because the Church adopted so much platonic philosophy as orthodoxy.
Augustine himself said that the marital act could not be performed without sin. And Pseudo-Dionysius places the unmarried in ontological superiority to the married.
The Church needs an overhaul.
This makes me so sad, but I know I grew up with this implied teaching.
Lol. The Church needs an overhaul, not away from celibacy as a life devoted to God...but back to celebrating it
Overhaul is a strong word, but I definitely agree with your point!
I think an important thing to remember regarding married and unmarried saints is that the canonisation process takes many, many years. It’s much easier for an order or nuns or monks to push the course for one of their own then it is for say a family to advocate for a family member who they believe worthy of being canonised.
That doesn’t mean that they aren’t lots of married saints in heaven but more that they will be forever hidden from the world and their good works will only be known by God.
@Gangari TheWanderer The myth of Mary's perpetual virginity is a direct product of the platonic belief in the inherent sinfulness of married sex.