Just wanted to pass on some comment wisdom. Never stand your drill up under any circumstance. What you want to do- is lay it down flat on a velvet pillow every single time!!! Extra points if the velvet is soft and luscious:)
The biggest feature of the Makita is you can hold the trigger in and it only engages when the screw touches the wall, which saves on battery life. Meaning you can use the smaller battery all day. (it can be turned on and off between full run and semi )
How well does it work with collated clip? I've heard the DeWalt cordless works well with colleted clip. But I only have one DeWalt tool now or once it comes in mail.
I haven’t used the Hilti, but I have the makita with auto feed attachment and the auto start so that it doesn’t run unless you drive it. It never misses a beat and works so nicely. Was $400 kitted with a pair of 4ah batteries and the cutout tool. Smokin deal and works so well.
I renovated my entire living room floor to ceiling this past year. Since I already have makita tools I bought the drywall driver and the cut-out tool. No autofeed though. I had zero problems and the specialized tools made the work enjoyable. Cutout tool makes a lot of dust but it beats measuring and cutting everything. Going to start on the hallway and dining room in a few days.
@@Tehcarp zip tool. I've seen the saw I think you are talking about. It's pretty sweet but I really enjoy the cutout saw for doing full renovations. Tack up the sheet, zip, zip, zip, or falls flat and screw her down. The saw looks great for when you have to do repair work.
@@Tehcarp oh and oddly enough I got the autofeed attachment for my drywall screwgun for Christmas. I tested it out on some scrap sheets and it kicks ass. Can't wait to get the hallway and dining room going soon
@@Tehcarp I got the zip router as well. It’s ok. Battery hog but has enough juice to do fine. I don’t like the switch but otherwise it’s a great tool. Does what it’s supposed to do.
Makita has an genuine autofeed attachment and a third-party one from Senco 👍 Also, Makita has a Push Drive technology for less noise and more battery life !
Thank you leaving this video. I have an older corded Makita drywall gun that always seams to put the screws in crooked. i always thought it was the operator. I was watching you work in other videos and noticed how smoothly the screws went in and was happy to see this video.
When i started drywall, i was using a friends drill and it was Makita. I liked it, it’s reliable, works well but its not Hilti. When i got my own drill i chose Hilti, the exact same model you have. Last year i got the new model, its awesome, its on/off, meaning it has a stopper. Its lighter then the old model, its better balanced and has a new shape for your hand. And it has a light, huge difference. Great video, thanks for sharing. Cheers
I've used a Makita corded Drywall drill forever. I've tried a few others but always go back to my trusty Makita. I've used it for everything including setting deck boards.
I have the makita and mine has the same problem driving screws even with a 5Ah battery on it. The problem doesn't seem to be in the battery but in the trigger on mine. When you lock it on the trigger backs off just enough to change what level of power is selected. Why they made it variable speed, I don't know. The makita also has a mode where the motor only turns on when the switch is pulled and the clutch starts to engage. So I will activate that mode and tape my switch down. That seems to eliminate the lack of power after driving a few screws.
Hilti is the bee's knees from everything I've seen. But not being in the field anymore has made Ryobi brushless a new friend if mine. Gotta save that $$$
That is also what I have noticed. the smaller and lighter the tool, the more I want to use it. big heavy macho stuff is cool and makes you look awesome, but it will get left on the work table. I have a small harbor freight cordless drill, 20v, my favorite. I've been using the same 1.5Ah battery more or less every day for a year and it's still going strong, even through the drill looks worn and there is no more legible writing on it.
I'd thrown your Hilti out the window with it running constantly like that The most important feature here is the Auto start and trigger lock on the Makita.
I've used both guns you're missing a few points with the Makita they do have a available auto-feed attachment. Also the Makita has another function it's either called auto start or push start. There is a button on the bottom of the gun you press the gun is completely silent until a clutch is engaged and it activates the motor so its on all the time without hearing the loud noise of the motor. The Hilti is definitely better balanced and very smooth.
Sorry i actually have never used the attachment so cant give any input. Almost bought one but i dont need it right now since i dont do much production work. I would assume it works well and would rather have the attachment be able to come off and use the gun as is for other applications such as metal framing , or removing screws etc.
@@mr.kenslifeshop4034 I did, and it broke in a month. The wheels/cogs that advance the screw strip are made of plastic, and once you lose one or two of the teeth the screw strip won't advance. Makita did replace it but I haven't used it since.... senco makes an all metal option which looks more durable
Is this the Makita xsf03z? If so there is a D button (below where your hand grips) that allows you to use the push drive system. Lock trigger down with this engaged and motor doesnt engage til you engage the screw. Would extend you battery life on that 1,5 battery
Hey Dude, love the videos. I do drywall install/repair and I just purchased the makita a few months back. It has a push-drive mode where the motor in engaged the moment there is pressure on a fastener. I hung my hole kitchen (20 boards, vaulted ceiling) on a little over one charge of the 3AH battery. Saves a ton of battery life and works great. Just thought I’d point it out, not sure if the Hilton has same/similar feature.
Full time boarder here. What I can't stand about all the new brushless models is you can't reverse a screw out(sunk not missed) without taking the nose cone off. Older brushed models had no problem taking out a sunk screw. I recently bought the newest DeWalt screw gun and router and both have needed to be replaced within the first year (switch and trigger issues) hate the new DeWalt tools. Making me switch brands after 17 years of running DeWalt. Considering Hilti. Don't like the Makita. Would really like to know if the Hilti can reverse a sunk screw without taking the cone off.
Howdy. I started drywalling with a corded Dewalt and loved it. Cordless guns, I've used them all. Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita. My least favorite is the Milwaukee, doesn't seem to have the power and the other 2. Used my buddies Makita and loved it. I recently got a Hilti 4500 A22 with an auto feed. Used it only once to patch in a door opening. Seems good but I need to use it on a bigger job
Hilti. Better gears, and now the new model has a light on it. They aren’t heavy, the collated attachment from Hilti is the best, I had makita when I started they are good guns as well but Hilti for top gun.
I'm about to launch into a large remodel that will include hanging ceiling drywall. I'm between Makita (bought the XSF04Z but contemplating returning) and the new Hilti 5000-A22. My hesitancy is the RPM on the Hilti. Is it too high for driving into wood studs, which is exclusively what I'll be doing? Love the auto-feed!
I actually used the sd5000 a22 for installing wood sheathing onto wood studs. The hilti is amazing at both steel and wood attaching any material you want.
I’ve got the Makita but it’s difficult to screw in a corner as you can’t get to within 12mm on a papered edge or 18mm on a cut edge and keep the tool perpendicular to the drywall so often the screw goes in crooked and doesn’t seat properly or tears the paper. If the top hook wasn’t on the tool you could get closer to an edge.
I don't know about your model but the 452Z in the UK has "Push-Drive" technology where you can have it so when you push the screw in the board and it works flawlessly, saves on battery too!
I've used the ridgid drywall gun for about 3 years and just switched to makita last week, hands down the best switch and I paid 100$ for a gun, charger and 2 batteries
it seems like most installers are using the battery operated just to tack the drywall in, then going back with the cord & zapping it... the makita battery op I tried was the cruddy one so I havnt tried one since
We use to use all hilti at the company I use to work for and nothing compares I feel. The new company I work for runs mikita and not bad but no where as good I feel. In terms of quality, durability, and so on. My personal platform is dewalt and when hanging drywall at work I bring my personal dewalt drywall screwgun because I like it just a little more than our companies makita. Thanks for all your awesome videos!
Thank you for changing out to a smaller battery on the Makita. Been wondering if there was a difference. My Milwaukee seems to not work as well with a 1.5ah.
Hey bud another great video. The Makita line actually has 5 models for their drywall gun. The model with the number 5 in it is the “snub nose” version. Shorter nose and has all the features. There are auto feed attachments that you can but separately as well if wanted. I have the corded version of a snub nose (19 years old) and it’s always been my favorite drywall gun to use and it’s still going! But I’ve been looking at the cordless model of the snub nose. Check it out from Makita. It will def out perform the standard nose from Makita or any other standard nose brand in my opinion. Thanks for posting!
@Vancouver Carpenter. Thanks Ben for your opinions between the Makita and the Hilti cordless drywall screw guns. I have no experience with the Hilti and I've only used the Makita and I'm not a professional drywaller. What I learned is mostly from you. So thank you. Hope you and your family stay safe and well. Merry Christmas.
I've used both the Makita and Hilti (the first Makita he showed). Both drills are great with the Hilti being just slightly better to me. The difference in performance comes in when you use the auto-feed attachments and its massive. The Makita Autofeed attachment is just pure garbage. The rubber tip continually falls off. It has a screw indexing problem leading to constant jam up ranging from slowing you down being the very least to leaving you SOL holding a ceiling board with not enough pins and a dud drill in your had. attaching and de-attaching it will accelerate the wear and tear on the head of your drill damaging the spring clip that holds the traditional drywall attachment in place. It's just god awful.
been using a dewalt cordless as well as hilti corded i have a prefrance for the cordless looking forward to the nuron release l8r this year ill try to update this then
Nj union carpenter here…Hilti is good for the auto feed (on ceilings) other wise Makita 6200 (corded) is the way to go. When you clipped together the screwing off, it’s the way we move in real time
I like them both..I like the Makita for working in places that need a quiet gun, like schools. You can turn the sound off and it even saves battery life
Hi, when I started with the dry wall almost 20 years ago, I was using corded Makita which is still workig, left somewhere in the basement. You can say that I am a Makita fan boy and have a lot of tools and batteries from Makita, but the auto feed attachment is not good enought imo... I have Dewalt with the auto feed, the attachment is better from the one from Makita, but the tool is not. The only Hilti that I have is the same as yours in the video, and it is the best auto feed tool that I have used. I will buy the Festool auto feed tool just to try it, but I doubt that will be better than the Hilti. Just to mention the Hilti bare tool cost around 800 euro and the Makita brushless one cost 160 euro here in Germany, but for the Hilti auto feed tool it is money well spend. Till next video.
hey dude, i have the hilti, its batteries work with my hammerdrill, impact driver, there's a drill, sawzall, and router all on the same battery platform
Im actually looking at getting that makita. Made a deal with my brother that when i graduate, ill fix up his basement room on my own and pay for it if he lets me move in with him. It needs gutted, and i figured it would make the process a lot easier
I have the makita and like it but I don't have experience with any other cordless drywall drivers. I believe there is an autofeed attachment for the Makita.
I have both guns and I like them both but the hilti is much more premium and sinks screws a lot nicer. The makita has a cool feature where you press the button near the light on bottom and if you pull trigger and lock it the rotor won’t engage until you press the screw in
I'd like to see a comparison to the Binford 6100. (On the Home Improvement TV show, starting with the third season, EVERY Binford tool was the model "6100".)
Show us what drywall hammer you're using and your overall belt set-up for hanging rock. Also I do a knock-down brocade now on most my lids when texturing are you seeing the same up there? Thanks in advance.
I had the corded RIDGID 3 in. Drywall and Deck Collated Screwdriver with the built-in auto feed. I should have kept it, because I need to do drywall lol.
3:36 before watch anymore here’s my take: Have more Milwaukee battery tools than my hitachi/Metabo hpt, bosch, makita, deWalt, skilsaw that use…… However, the m18 fuel drywall screw gun is pretty nice, and has a collated attachment for it, the Hilti is very nice too(have used but don’t own) and have also used Makita’s version too (long w/ the collated attachment). Now, that all said, as like my Milwaukee tools, the Makita drywall gun isn’t as powerful as the others, heck…been out long time, BUT IT’S SMOOTH! Very nice and also agree, the front heavy seems to make it not balanced, but doesn’t feel bad in hand at all while using. That narrow grip i ok too, as not squeezing so hard getting hand fatigue, but at same time, the bigger grip on Milwaukee/hilti and DeWalt’s just kinda “feels” a bit more “natural” to hold. So, my recap….. if want a smooth running gun, maybe not as powerful as others, and has the collated attachments and bells/whistles….the Makita is nice (oh, the metal screw gun w/ lower rpm is SWEET AS HECK, FYI & IMO, when’s going into metal studs or screwing off metal siding/roofs etc…..it nice 👍🏻). Now, if on another battery platform, just stay there and gets that brands drywall screw gun, most likely it’s gonna be fine and work. If not in a platform and there’s a deal, I’d go Makita or buy a corded screw gun, as the cost will be significantly less & if DIYer (or doing a project) corded would most likely be my choice for you…. AND PLEASE, don’t buy the dimple but accessory for an impact driver to hang Sheetrock, they pretty much all are garbage (there, that’s being nice😉), you’ll be better off buying corded or renting than using that dimpler bit and driving yourself nuts for next 20-45 mins trying to get “dialed in”, if ever do😉 Thx Ben for vid Andy thoughts…..now, I’ll continue on✌🏻
Hi there, any chance you’ve done a video on what to do when your ceiling has huge paint chips coming off but there are like at least five layers of paint (if not more). I’m trying to figure out if I can just sand and mud to even it out of if there’s something else I need to do. How to you repair a paint chipped ceiling when there are like a million layers of paint!?
*10 years experience, used them ALL. Milwaukee and dw, overall good guns, nice ergonomic, poor quality, not really pro tools. Makita is clearly better than the red and the yellow with slightly worse ergonomics. (btw you are doing it wrong with makita, not using push to drive auto mode. The red has it to, great feature) Hilti is a cut above the rest, the only real pro tool with the only downside being the weight witch is addressed with the latest model. I would like to see hilti with auto mode, would have been perfect.
there are plenty more. Metabo has a brickhouse of the drywall gun. Bosch has a super light one with odd ergonomics. Basicly the first Brushless one. Festool and Protool has the same. Here in Europe you nearly see no Milwaukee at all.. Its more for some kind of collector tool for hardcore DIYers. The most commen gun you see here is Makita than Bosch, Hilti, Festool, Metabo, Dewalt
@@Roman-y8o thankfully I left the trade a couple of years ago and never got the chance to use the new hilti. I actually mostly used Spit (wurth) Makita and Milwaukee guns (corded and cordless) troughout the years but never Hilti, mostly because it is to heavy (you do feel it when you screw in 1-2k for days on end). I understand why you would think that I am advertising but I truly am not...
@@ljubomirlazovic9613 hilti уже не та.makita не плохой выбор.особенно что уже год как вышла безщеточная модэль,ленточного шуруповерта dfr 551,лучшая из всех что существуют.6000 оборотов.для гипсокартона супер.хорошей вам работы.
I just purchased on this past week and so far I have not noticed too much of a difference. I used to run the dewalt with a 5A. The hilti with a 4A is only .5 lb. heavier
You know the makita has a mode where it'll automatically kick on when it census pressure so you don't have to listen to it run & saves batteries Also has a brushless motor hence the funny sound 👍
I'm hanging 130 sheets of drywall on a home remodel. I have a DeWalt screwgun. I'm unsure if I want to spend the extra $100+ for collated attachment and screws. I may never use it again. Anyone have thoughts on that?
I use an impact driver or drill with drywall bit, I’m waiting to see if any companies will come out with a good 12v brushless screw gun. Small size, weight and balance are important to me
Hey quick question about the Makita Im currently shopping for one The main problem for me when using a battery drill when installing drywall is to unscrew the one you missed Does the Makita do a good job on the reverse setting to unscrew ?
Behind you the drywall is installed vertically. Many times, I see professionals install it horizontally. Horizontally makes no sense to me since the bevels are exactly where you do not need them. Vertically makes more sense, but it is rare to see it done that way. Why is that?
Vertical for metal framing because its actually straight. Horizontal for wood framing with staggered butt joints. You can stand up vertical on wood but sometimes the studs aren't straight.
More sense* not since. Damn you! Sorry, I lost my cool I can't stand turning into a grammar nazi but you people! Roiken froiken ❗❗ omg what happened I blacked out for a moment. And horizontal is the way we hang for wood framing and horizontal for metal studs. Edit: didn't see the guy above me posted the same re: metal/wood frame.
The biggest reason is because standing up sheets creates way more joints to fill. Take a a 12x12 room. 1 wall stood up creates 16' of joints to fill instead of hanging horizontally which only makes 12' to fill. Thats a Xtra 4 ft per wall, 16' per room, add that up over an entire house.... thats a shit ton extra taping work if you stand them up.
@@Rob-mv7oj Okay. In your 12 foot example, are you filling, but not taping, the very top and bottom horizontal edge? Seems like that adds a lot of work too. Otherwise, you must cover those bevels with big moldings which detracts from the look and also adds work. Right?? What am I missing?
The new dewalt drywall drill is really good , I personally think the hilti is very laggy but the corded hilti drywall gun is the best in the market hands down
Which model are you referring to? I heard the DeWalt is very good with their collated clip. I am troubling between getting the DeWalt or the Makita but I've read nothing but bad about the Makita. I already on the Milwaukee and I don't really care for it. Maybe I just do not know how to use it but it is constantly putting in screws crooked that have to be touched up with an impact anyways.
True that I had 2 hiltis and they burned out before my dewalt did and i was a professional drywaller running these tools hard all day. Just cause Hilti makes good concrete and laser tools doesnt mean theyre the best for drywall.
I know a few people who love the Hilti but I really don't like it. They feel clumsy and sometimes the clutch decides to let go far too early. The Makita is just easier to use.
Canadians ! *rolls eyes*. 😁😂🙄 J/K. Love your channel Ben, for crikey man, use the push drive/ auto start! Keeps motor ready to run, but only when needed! That saves a ton on batteries! Those 1.5 batts ain’t worth a crap! 2.0 big difference! Stay safe and Healthy! 👍👍👍✌🏻😁🇺🇸🎄🎅
Just wanted to pass on some comment wisdom. Never stand your drill up under any circumstance. What you want to do- is lay it down flat on a velvet pillow every single time!!! Extra points if the velvet is soft and luscious:)
That's what I do with my Makita. I also cover it with a small blanket.
Have you thought about a princess bed for dolls? Those are amazing
The biggest feature of the Makita is you can hold the trigger in and it only engages when the screw touches the wall, which saves on battery life. Meaning you can use the smaller battery all day. (it can be turned on and off between full run and semi )
How well does it work with collated clip? I've heard the DeWalt cordless works well with colleted clip. But I only have one DeWalt tool now or once it comes in mail.
I haven’t used the Hilti, but I have the makita with auto feed attachment and the auto start so that it doesn’t run unless you drive it. It never misses a beat and works so nicely. Was $400 kitted with a pair of 4ah batteries and the cutout tool. Smokin deal and works so well.
I renovated my entire living room floor to ceiling this past year. Since I already have makita tools I bought the drywall driver and the cut-out tool. No autofeed though. I had zero problems and the specialized tools made the work enjoyable. Cutout tool makes a lot of dust but it beats measuring and cutting everything. Going to start on the hallway and dining room in a few days.
Which cutout the zip or the saw
@@Tehcarp zip tool. I've seen the saw I think you are talking about. It's pretty sweet but I really enjoy the cutout saw for doing full renovations. Tack up the sheet, zip, zip, zip, or falls flat and screw her down.
The saw looks great for when you have to do repair work.
@@Tehcarp oh and oddly enough I got the autofeed attachment for my drywall screwgun for Christmas. I tested it out on some scrap sheets and it kicks ass. Can't wait to get the hallway and dining room going soon
@@Tehcarp I got the zip router as well. It’s ok. Battery hog but has enough juice to do fine. I don’t like the switch but otherwise it’s a great tool. Does what it’s supposed to do.
"Is it light? I don't know I haven't weighed them" LMAO!
Aye at least hes keeping it a thousand 😂😂😂
New Hilti 5000 rpm gun is 1 lbs lighter, brushless, better ergonomics. I use my old 4500 rpm attached to the 22 inch extension for lids.
The Hilti works great! battery lasts a long time
Makita has an genuine autofeed attachment and a third-party one from Senco 👍
Also, Makita has a Push Drive technology for less noise and more battery life !
Thank you leaving this video. I have an older corded Makita drywall gun that always seams to put the screws in crooked. i always thought it was the operator. I was watching you work in other videos and noticed how smoothly the screws went in and was happy to see this video.
I just bought the Milwaukee screw gun. I like how it is silent between screws. It had an autostart
I love Milwaukee products.
I love my milwaukee. The silent auto start is great
Makita does 2 🙄
When i started drywall, i was using a friends drill and it was Makita. I liked it, it’s reliable, works well but its not Hilti. When i got my own drill i chose Hilti, the exact same model you have. Last year i got the new model, its awesome, its on/off, meaning it has a stopper. Its lighter then the old model, its better balanced and has a new shape for your hand. And it has a light, huge difference.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Cheers
I've used a Makita corded Drywall drill forever. I've tried a few others but always go back to my trusty Makita. I've used it for everything including setting deck boards.
I have the makita and mine has the same problem driving screws even with a 5Ah battery on it. The problem doesn't seem to be in the battery but in the trigger on mine. When you lock it on the trigger backs off just enough to change what level of power is selected. Why they made it variable speed, I don't know. The makita also has a mode where the motor only turns on when the switch is pulled and the clutch starts to engage. So I will activate that mode and tape my switch down. That seems to eliminate the lack of power after driving a few screws.
I never used a hilti but I like my makita. I use the auto feed one. The one that runs the screws on the plastic strips and it is great.
Hilti is the bee's knees from everything I've seen. But not being in the field anymore has made Ryobi brushless a new friend if mine. Gotta save that $$$
I learned drywall years ago on a corded Makita. Never wore it out.
That is also what I have noticed. the smaller and lighter the tool, the more I want to use it. big heavy macho stuff is cool and makes you look awesome, but it will get left on the work table. I have a small harbor freight cordless drill, 20v, my favorite. I've been using the same 1.5Ah battery more or less every day for a year and it's still going strong, even through the drill looks worn and there is no more legible writing on it.
I'd thrown your Hilti out the window with it running constantly like that
The most important feature here is the Auto start and trigger lock on the Makita.
Yessir!!! 👍👍👍😁✌🏻
I've used both guns you're missing a few points with the Makita they do have a available auto-feed attachment. Also the Makita has another function it's either called auto start or push start. There is a button on the bottom of the gun you press the gun is completely silent until a clutch is engaged and it activates the motor so its on all the time without hearing the loud noise of the motor. The Hilti is definitely better balanced and very smooth.
How do you like the autofeed for the Makita. I am debating whether to buy the attachment or a dedicated autofeed gun. Thanks for any advice.
Sorry i actually have never used the attachment so cant give any input. Almost bought one but i dont need it right now since i dont do much production work. I would assume it works well and would rather have the attachment be able to come off and use the gun as is for other applications such as metal framing , or removing screws etc.
Good point! Saves the life of the battery significantly
@@MikeK7115 did you ever buy the Makita colloted auto feed?
@@mr.kenslifeshop4034 I did, and it broke in a month. The wheels/cogs that advance the screw strip are made of plastic, and once you lose one or two of the teeth the screw strip won't advance. Makita did replace it but I haven't used it since.... senco makes an all metal option which looks more durable
Is this the Makita xsf03z? If so there is a D button (below where your hand grips) that allows you to use the push drive system. Lock trigger down with this engaged and motor doesnt engage til you engage the screw. Would extend you battery life on that 1,5 battery
Exactly chillywilly 👍🤔 I don’t know why he is not using the push drive? And who uses 1.5 batteries? Use the 2.0 batteries!!! Seriously!
@@georgedavall9449 2.0? Makita?
@@vojnikjna30 2.0ah rather than 1.5.
Hey Dude, love the videos. I do drywall install/repair and I just purchased the makita a few months back. It has a push-drive mode where the motor in engaged the moment there is pressure on a fastener. I hung my hole kitchen (20 boards, vaulted ceiling) on a little over one charge of the 3AH battery. Saves a ton of battery life and works great. Just thought I’d point it out, not sure if the Hilton has same/similar feature.
here in ireland the same as oz the makita guns we use are dedicated autofeed guns.
Full time boarder here. What I can't stand about all the new brushless models is you can't reverse a screw out(sunk not missed) without taking the nose cone off. Older brushed models had no problem taking out a sunk screw. I recently bought the newest DeWalt screw gun and router and both have needed to be replaced within the first year (switch and trigger issues) hate the new DeWalt tools. Making me switch brands after 17 years of running DeWalt. Considering Hilti. Don't like the Makita. Would really like to know if the Hilti can reverse a sunk screw without taking the cone off.
Howdy. I started drywalling with a corded Dewalt and loved it. Cordless guns, I've used them all. Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita. My least favorite is the Milwaukee, doesn't seem to have the power and the other 2. Used my buddies Makita and loved it. I recently got a Hilti 4500 A22 with an auto feed. Used it only once to patch in a door opening. Seems good but I need to use it on a bigger job
Hilti. Better gears, and now the new model has a light on it. They aren’t heavy, the collated attachment from Hilti is the best, I had makita when I started they are good guns as well but Hilti for top gun.
I'm about to launch into a large remodel that will include hanging ceiling drywall. I'm between Makita (bought the XSF04Z but contemplating returning) and the new Hilti 5000-A22. My hesitancy is the RPM on the Hilti. Is it too high for driving into wood studs, which is exclusively what I'll be doing? Love the auto-feed!
I actually used the sd5000 a22 for installing wood sheathing onto wood studs. The hilti is amazing at both steel and wood attaching any material you want.
@@vojnikjna30, thanks! I wound up going with the Hilti and LOVE it.
I’ve got the Makita but it’s difficult to screw in a corner as you can’t get to within 12mm on a papered edge or 18mm on a cut edge and keep the tool perpendicular to the drywall so often the screw goes in crooked and doesn’t seat properly or tears the paper. If the top hook wasn’t on the tool you could get closer to an edge.
I don't know about your model but the 452Z in the UK has "Push-Drive" technology where you can have it so when you push the screw in the board and it works flawlessly, saves on battery too!
He was explaining the auto feature and his is the 452z
@@vojnikjna30 Doesn't look like the 452Z and when you have it in push-drive it doesn't ramp up until you push the screw in.
I've used the ridgid drywall gun for about 3 years and just switched to makita last week, hands down the best switch and I paid 100$ for a gun, charger and 2 batteries
best maklita vs dewalt ?
it seems like most installers are using the battery operated just to tack the drywall in, then going back with the cord & zapping it... the makita battery op I tried was the cruddy one so I havnt tried one since
We use to use all hilti at the company I use to work for and nothing compares I feel.
The new company I work for runs mikita and not bad but no where as good I feel. In terms of quality, durability, and so on.
My personal platform is dewalt and when hanging drywall at work I bring my personal dewalt drywall screwgun because I like it just a little more than our companies makita.
Thanks for all your awesome videos!
Thank you for changing out to a smaller battery on the Makita. Been wondering if there was a difference. My Milwaukee seems to not work as well with a 1.5ah.
Hey bud another great video. The Makita line actually has 5 models for their drywall gun. The model with the number 5 in it is the “snub nose” version. Shorter nose and has all the features. There are auto feed attachments that you can but separately as well if wanted. I have the corded version of a snub nose (19 years old) and it’s always been my favorite drywall gun to use and it’s still going! But I’ve been looking at the cordless model of the snub nose. Check it out from Makita. It will def out perform the standard nose from Makita or any other standard nose brand in my opinion. Thanks for posting!
Those Aussies have some good drywall/taping videos. Those guys are efficient.
You can buy autofeed attachment for the makita!
Why not use the push drive system makita has ?
@Vancouver Carpenter. Thanks Ben for your opinions between the Makita and the Hilti cordless drywall screw guns. I have no experience with the Hilti and I've only used the Makita and I'm not a professional drywaller. What I learned is mostly from you. So thank you.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
Merry Christmas.
I've used both the Makita and Hilti (the first Makita he showed). Both drills are great with the Hilti being just slightly better to me. The difference in performance comes in when you use the auto-feed attachments and its massive. The Makita Autofeed attachment is just pure garbage. The rubber tip continually falls off. It has a screw indexing problem leading to constant jam up ranging from slowing you down being the very least to leaving you SOL holding a ceiling board with not enough pins and a dud drill in your had. attaching and de-attaching it will accelerate the wear and tear on the head of your drill damaging the spring clip that holds the traditional drywall attachment in place. It's just god awful.
been using a dewalt cordless as well as hilti corded i have a prefrance for the cordless looking forward to the nuron release l8r this year ill try to update this then
Nj union carpenter here…Hilti is good for the auto feed (on ceilings) other wise Makita 6200 (corded) is the way to go. When you clipped together the screwing off, it’s the way we move in real time
I like them both..I like the Makita for working in places that need a quiet gun, like schools. You can turn the sound off and it even saves battery life
i always liked hilti over all for drywall screw guns but have you tried the new hilti nuron model screw gun? it’s really amazing please check them out
Hi, when I started with the dry wall almost 20 years ago, I was using corded Makita which is still workig, left somewhere in the basement. You can say that I am a Makita fan boy and have a lot of tools and batteries from Makita, but the auto feed attachment is not good enought imo...
I have Dewalt with the auto feed, the attachment is better from the one from Makita, but the tool is not.
The only Hilti that I have is the same as yours in the video, and it is the best auto feed tool that I have used.
I will buy the Festool auto feed tool just to try it, but I doubt that will be better than the Hilti.
Just to mention the Hilti bare tool cost around 800 euro and the Makita brushless one cost 160 euro here in Germany, but for the Hilti auto feed tool it is money well spend.
Till next video.
They say if you lock the makita drill it last longer because it only works when pushed in drywall.
hey dude, i have the hilti, its batteries work with my hammerdrill, impact driver, there's a drill, sawzall, and router all on the same battery platform
Just like makita
He starts talking about the hilti being a 1trick pony..
@@lortunder To be fair, compared to Makita, it pretty much is. They have the largest line of cordless tools of any battery platform....
@@ckm-mkc that’s neat! Good luck on production jobs.. piece work with anything else is like taking the bus on a racetrack
Im actually looking at getting that makita. Made a deal with my brother that when i graduate, ill fix up his basement room on my own and pay for it if he lets me move in with him. It needs gutted, and i figured it would make the process a lot easier
The hilti is unbeatable. Love it. + they seem to be indestructible
Double up your studs on the breaks when you hang vertical like that!! Makes hitting the stud and not blowing the sides out much easier.
I have the makita and like it but I don't have experience with any other cordless drywall drivers. I believe there is an autofeed attachment for the Makita.
I have both guns and I like them both but the hilti is much more premium and sinks screws a lot nicer. The makita has a cool feature where you press the button near the light on bottom and if you pull trigger and lock it the rotor won’t engage until you press the screw in
I'd like to see a comparison to the Binford 6100. (On the Home Improvement TV show, starting with the third season, EVERY Binford tool was the model "6100".)
basically if you want pro level, go with Hilti
Show us what drywall hammer you're using and your overall belt set-up for hanging rock. Also I do a knock-down brocade now on most my lids when texturing are you seeing the same up there? Thanks in advance.
Is the makita with brushless motor....i have the same one but runs much more smoothly?! What is the type of old batteries?
Can i know your drill holister? the pouch at the back
You need the old makita auto feed drywall gun tryed to upgrade to the drywall drill but did not like it
I enjoy your videos and your sense of humor.
I had the corded RIDGID 3 in. Drywall and Deck Collated Screwdriver with the built-in auto feed. I should have kept it, because I need to do drywall lol.
3:36 before watch anymore here’s my take:
Have more Milwaukee battery tools than my hitachi/Metabo hpt, bosch, makita, deWalt, skilsaw that use…… However, the m18 fuel drywall screw gun is pretty nice, and has a collated attachment for it, the Hilti is very nice too(have used but don’t own) and have also used Makita’s version too (long w/ the collated attachment). Now, that all said, as like my Milwaukee tools, the Makita drywall gun isn’t as powerful as the others, heck…been out long time, BUT IT’S SMOOTH! Very nice and also agree, the front heavy seems to make it not balanced, but doesn’t feel bad in hand at all while using. That narrow grip i ok too, as not squeezing so hard getting hand fatigue, but at same time, the bigger grip on Milwaukee/hilti and DeWalt’s just kinda “feels” a bit more “natural” to hold.
So, my recap….. if want a smooth running gun, maybe not as powerful as others, and has the collated attachments and bells/whistles….the Makita is nice (oh, the metal screw gun w/ lower rpm is SWEET AS HECK, FYI & IMO, when’s going into metal studs or screwing off metal siding/roofs etc…..it nice 👍🏻).
Now, if on another battery platform, just stay there and gets that brands drywall screw gun, most likely it’s gonna be fine and work. If not in a platform and there’s a deal, I’d go Makita or buy a corded screw gun, as the cost will be significantly less & if DIYer (or doing a project) corded would most likely be my choice for you…. AND PLEASE, don’t buy the dimple but accessory for an impact driver to hang Sheetrock, they pretty much all are garbage (there, that’s being nice😉), you’ll be better off buying corded or renting than using that dimpler bit and driving yourself nuts for next 20-45 mins trying to get “dialed in”, if ever do😉
Thx Ben for vid Andy thoughts…..now, I’ll continue on✌🏻
💥 Thanks for the great vid. 3:06 I wish that you showed that in real time vs splicing it. 🤟🏼
Hi there, any chance you’ve done a video on what to do when your ceiling has huge paint chips coming off but there are like at least five layers of paint (if not more). I’m trying to figure out if I can just sand and mud to even it out of if there’s something else I need to do. How to you repair a paint chipped ceiling when there are like a million layers of paint!?
*10 years experience, used them ALL.
Milwaukee and dw, overall good guns, nice ergonomic, poor quality, not really pro tools.
Makita is clearly better than the red and the yellow with slightly worse ergonomics. (btw you are doing it wrong with makita, not using push to drive auto mode. The red has it to, great feature)
Hilti is a cut above the rest, the only real pro tool with the only downside being the weight witch is addressed with the latest model.
I would like to see hilti with auto mode, would have been perfect.
there are plenty more. Metabo has a brickhouse of the drywall gun.
Bosch has a super light one with odd ergonomics. Basicly the first Brushless one.
Festool and Protool has the same.
Here in Europe you nearly see no Milwaukee at all.. Its more for some kind of collector tool for hardcore DIYers.
The most commen gun you see here is Makita than Bosch, Hilti, Festool, Metabo, Dewalt
Ты похоже делаеш рекламу hilti😅.этот инструмент хорош только первого поколения.старые.новые hilti это китайская игрушка.сделаная в китае фирмой bosch,
@@Roman-y8o thankfully I left the trade a couple of years ago and never got the chance to use the new hilti. I actually mostly used Spit (wurth) Makita and Milwaukee guns (corded and cordless) troughout the years but never Hilti, mostly because it is to heavy (you do feel it when you screw in 1-2k for days on end). I understand why you would think that I am advertising but I truly am not...
@@ljubomirlazovic9613 hilti уже не та.makita не плохой выбор.особенно что уже год как вышла безщеточная модэль,ленточного шуруповерта dfr 551,лучшая из всех что существуют.6000 оборотов.для гипсокартона супер.хорошей вам работы.
I just bought the Makita brushless and can't figure out how to get it in push drive mode.
My arm is tired just looking at that Hilti
I just purchased on this past week and so far I have not noticed too much of a difference. I used to run the dewalt with a 5A. The hilti with a 4A is only .5 lb. heavier
Well, makita's version is utter shite pal
You know the makita has a mode where it'll automatically kick on when it census pressure so you don't have to listen to it run & saves batteries
Also has a brushless motor hence the funny sound 👍
I'm hanging 130 sheets of drywall on a home remodel. I have a DeWalt screwgun. I'm unsure if I want to spend the extra $100+ for collated attachment and screws. I may never use it again. Anyone have thoughts on that?
The makita has the push drive setting so it's not continuously running
I use an impact driver or drill with drywall bit, I’m waiting to see if any companies will come out with a good 12v brushless screw gun. Small size, weight and balance are important to me
Check Bosch 12v its good for short screw
@@korvensyrja1 not really any good reviews videos. Heard they are very underpowered.
Can you just use smaller batteries? Like one on the drill and other one on the charger?
Thanks for the review. I think the Makita is worth it’s money.
Why don't you use the nail clip attachment?
Hey quick question about the Makita Im currently shopping for one
The main problem for me when using a battery drill when installing drywall is to unscrew the one you missed
Does the Makita do a good job on the reverse setting to unscrew ?
Hey Ben, you should try the lush drive on the drill. It still feels like it’s running on full boar and it extends your battery life like crazy!!
And the N7 by grabber is a great collated attachment for the drill. I think you would like it
LMAO lush drive!
First!
Love you man! (like a brother)
No homo lol
...hope your brothers don´t have anything to complain about :D
Is that one of the Makita models that has the auto start feature?
Yes
I think I like the makita more cause it’s better for someone who has small hands but also I do like the Hilton gun cause it’s easier to fix shiners
You need an adapter for the auto feed they come either metal or plastic and you buy the auto feeder
Definitely the Hilti Ben! 🔥👍😎
I just bought the Makita yesterday and it doesn't tend to want to fall forward...
I hardly have my makita on the ground standing it like that even less lmao
Wait. Which model is the crappy makita and which model was the good makita?
You smack the Makita into the wall but guide the hilti in at the start till it grabs a bit
Behind you the drywall is installed vertically. Many times, I see professionals install it horizontally. Horizontally makes no sense to me since the bevels are exactly where you do not need them. Vertically makes more sense, but it is rare to see it done that way. Why is that?
Vertical for metal framing because its actually straight. Horizontal for wood framing with staggered butt joints. You can stand up vertical on wood but sometimes the studs aren't straight.
More sense* not since. Damn you! Sorry, I lost my cool I can't stand turning into a grammar nazi but you people! Roiken froiken ❗❗ omg what happened I blacked out for a moment.
And horizontal is the way we hang for wood framing and horizontal for metal studs.
Edit: didn't see the guy above me posted the same re: metal/wood frame.
The biggest reason is because standing up sheets creates way more joints to fill. Take a a 12x12 room. 1 wall stood up creates 16' of joints to fill instead of hanging horizontally which only makes 12' to fill. Thats a Xtra 4 ft per wall, 16' per room, add that up over an entire house.... thats a shit ton extra taping work if you stand them up.
@@Rob-mv7oj best answer
@@Rob-mv7oj Okay. In your 12 foot example, are you filling, but not taping, the very top and bottom horizontal edge? Seems like that adds a lot of work too. Otherwise, you must cover those bevels with big moldings which detracts from the look and also adds work. Right?? What am I missing?
Have you tried the Dewalt brushless?
Link to Australian drywall videos tho pls
Senco makes a collated attachment for the makita
I'm looking at that too do fences.
Get the genuine Makita version.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC I don't think makita makes one
The new dewalt drywall drill is really good , I personally think the hilti is very laggy but the corded hilti drywall gun is the best in the market hands down
Which model are you referring to? I heard the DeWalt is very good with their collated clip. I am troubling between getting the DeWalt or the Makita but I've read nothing but bad about the Makita. I already on the Milwaukee and I don't really care for it. Maybe I just do not know how to use it but it is constantly putting in screws crooked that have to be touched up with an impact anyways.
Nothing beats a good collated screwgun (see grin at 11:39) -- wherever those magical unicorns are
I just wish I knew what you were trying to show us near the end with the old makita drywall gun.
Happy Holidays from Davenport Iowa
Ur nuts buddy, i love ya. Im from Ireland and i do exactly what you do. Im a carpenter also
If you like the Makita, you'd like the DeWalt as well. Hilti needs to stick to what they're good at: Concrete fastening
The best drywall gun ever made were hilti’s
@@vojnikjna30 Wrong.
True that I had 2 hiltis and they burned out before my dewalt did and i was a professional drywaller running these tools hard all day. Just cause Hilti makes good concrete and laser tools doesnt mean theyre the best for drywall.
I know a few people who love the Hilti but I really don't like it. They feel clumsy and sometimes the clutch decides to let go far too early. The Makita is just easier to use.
Canadians ! *rolls eyes*. 😁😂🙄 J/K. Love your channel Ben, for crikey man, use the push drive/ auto start! Keeps motor ready to run, but only when needed! That saves a ton on batteries! Those 1.5 batts ain’t worth a crap! 2.0 big difference! Stay safe and Healthy!
👍👍👍✌🏻😁🇺🇸🎄🎅
Makita for me .!!
We also use glue and use fuck all screws in our gyprock/drywall here in australia
Another great vid! Thank you!
Great info. Outstanding video.
Hilti is my choice. Battery last a long time if taken care of.
Makita's DFS452 has features unlike any other
i have both but hilti work awesome👍
U are the faster drywall instaler I ever see and hilty the best 10 of 10