Everything to know about the Bowline! + Yosemite Finish
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2019
- In this episode we learn how to tie the always useful bowline. This is one if the best knots to know, it can be quickly tied and untied even after it has been heavily loaded. We also learn the Yosemite finish and what I think about it.
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Good info. Consider using something other than black rope on white background. Hard to see when ropes are close together. Thanks.
Lizard yeah not one of my best videos lol I’m considering redoing this one with more visible ropes haha.
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Thanks for the really in detail video. Just one thing: with the black rope its hard to see which loop is above and which is below. on some colored rope we can see the shade better. anyway, keep up the good work - always fun to watch
Christopher Thanks for that input I did notice that and haven’t used the black ropes as much anymore lol I appreciate it 🤙🏻
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I always use a double bowline. Just do a standard bowline with some extra rope at the end (around arms length) and as with the figure eight knot follow it back again. Together with a stopper knot it's super save but also easy enough to undo compared to the eight.
Tom Langrock right on 😁🤙🏻 only problem I have with it is most ppl don’t know what they are looking at so they can’t safety check it lol
@Mason Gilbert exactly. Didn't know the proper english term. In Germany we call'em "doppelter Bulin" or "doppelter Palstek" (the latter is actually Dutch though, I think). Thanks for the info, mate.
Bowline on a bight aka Doppelter Bulin for the win!
@@ixwixthe bowline is called "paalsteek" in Dutch, correct. Bowline on a bight is called "dubbele paalsteek" and the running bowline is called "lopende paalsteek" 🇳🇱
Could you do a video on the Scott’s locked bowline? I use it all the time and it’s a very safe bowline variant.
Good video but the black rope is hard to tell which is on top. Perhaps a lighter color that shows shadows would help
Great video like always , but what do you can say about Lee’s Locked Yosemite Bowline , and which bowline are you using?
Yosemite bowline is my knot of choice
Nice video
Why and I just now seeing this. Love the intro 😂
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I almost exclusively use the bowline on a bight for rope access professionally and for tieing in for real climbing.
I unlearned it at 5:40 😂
Thanks ! I learned to tie the Bowline. Made a video on my channel.
Glad you mentioned NOT to use this for climbing. Great for tree work. Btw it's a "Bo-lin" not a "Bow-Line".
Additionally the finish is now a "Yo-semmite" thanks to Orange Man
nope its deffo a Bow-Line!
@@doughobbs7706 where do you get the pronunciation from Doug
@@doughobbs7706 I'm not an expert on the English language but correct pronounciation is actually [bou lynn] not [bow line] derrivating from the term Boling knot wich first appears in John Smith, A Sea Grammar: With the Plaine Exposition of Smiths Accidence for young Sea-men, enlarged, 1627. Check also merriam-webster.com and other resources.
You should mention that the simple bowline is not used any more to tie in. (At least here) The reason was maily that some accidents happen due to climbers loading it into two directions like you showed. Stupid things happen when you are tired on a long climb.
Only figure 8 or double bowline is conciddered safe by the DAV. I personally prefere the 8 because you immediately see that something is wrong. The simple bowline I only use if a failure is not critical.
Agreed, and I have known how to tie bowline knots for decades (boy scouts), but the few times I've seen somebody tie in with one it still throws me for a loop because it is quite difficult to visually inspect. Once I asked the climber to tie it again so I could watch her do it and make sure it was correct. Next time we climbed together, she just used a figure 8 because she figured I'd hassle her again. Safety first! I don't feel comfortable belaying anybody if I can't be sure their tie-in knot is bomber.
Is bowline on a bight ever used? I use it all the time for rigging/material handling and it seems like an excellent knot to me.
I use it when connecting a fixed rope to an anchor ,either directly or with a biner, and to tie in when climbing rocks.
How would one use this to do something other than to tie in...or is that its main purpose?
The Bowline is just an all around awesome knot to use if your going to lower or lift something heavy and you want to be able to untie quickly to lower or lift again. That’s why it’s the go to knot for arborists. The Yosemite bowline is just mainly used as a tie in knot.
Also I think you can tie a bowline using a slipknot method that’s nifty
Double BL since the 90s, most people in US still doesn’t know it and uses the 8.
Great video!
I prefer bowline or double bowline than it is no needed the fisherman’s knot. That’s my 2cent on the subject.
Do you know that there is also a quicker way to tie a bowline by doing a kind of a slip knot, in which loop you then pass your free end; then if you pull your bowline is done.
Moreover there is also another way to "double" the knot by passing the free end once again through your harness and following the other loop (not the one followed by the Yosemite finish).
(It's so hard to explain it by words)
The slip knot method is more of a party trick, I don't feel as safe doing it because the working end might slip out and sometimes the knot simply doesn't dress properly.
The fastest way is actually to do a one-handed bowline, you hold the working end, cross it over the standing end, make a loop on the standing end above the crossing, then passes the tip on that loop. Then you just hold the working end and pull on the standing and you get a perfect dressing every time. With practice you can make it single handed and with your eyes closed.
As someone who has taught a lot of climbers to tie in, I feel that any "re-thread" method (whether for the bowline, double bowline, or figure 8) adds significant visual complexity and makes the "true knot" harder to visually inspect. In the case of the bowline (or I prefer the double bowline), why not leave the tail of the rope where it naturally lands, and tie the fisherman's there on the inside (preferably on the opposite strand from its "natural lay")? This requires less rope, allows easy visual inspection of your clean, unadulterated original bowline, and also has the added advantage of being extremely compact, so that when you reach down to scoop up the rope to make a clip, you never risk snagging your fingers against the fisherman's finish knot or the tail -- it's not there!
what kind of rope access work are you doing?
Kevin Iosue really anything industrial that needs access 👍🏻
nice, i do RA work on wind turbines
That sounds fun! I haven’t got on one of those yet.
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This is looking great, except that I concur with @christopher5087 - the color makes it hard to see which rope goes over and which under. Or perhaps it's the lightning. :)
One of the most useful knots to know how to tie, Don’t use the Yosemite bowline much just a good ole bowline and a stopper knot if using new or slippery rope.
Same here.
can you tie that knot with a single hand?
Thanks for the intro. Anyway, this is called in so many ways, I call it nodo bulino! ;)
Is it worth it to tie a bowline on a bight as an anchor for top rope? That way you have two strands of rope going around the tree.
Andrew Anderson id say no because you would prob just be wasting rope length. And if the rope is going to break it will most likely be at the knot anyway. Would be interesting to figure that out though on a machine. That would be my guess anyway One loop with a figure 8 is standard 👍🏻
I must be missing a trick or two , I've still much to learn... but I never understood this knot. I've never used it and never really seen anyone else use it (maybe just because I'm outside the US). The video doesn't make it clear when you'd want to use a bowline instead of say: an ordinary figure of 8 (which is pretty hard to get wrong). Can anyone give circumstances when this is better to use than a fig8? Thanks
Tom Tom it’s heavily used in the tree service industry that’s for sure mostly because it will untie much easier when loaded by lets say a falling branch. Also much quicker to tie. I don’t think I have ever seen anyone tie it at the crag but I have seen videos of ppl with it on. Maybe if you are going to take a lot of whippers or you want some extra style points.
For climbing, a rethreaded figure 8 with a yosemite finish is plenty easy to untie even after taking whippers because you can work out the yosemite finish end first and that leaves slack in the rest of the knot.
Why would you not want to tie your double fisherman underneath the bowline?
You wouldn’t want to use a regular bowline anyway if you took up all the slack there wouldn’t be any room for a fisherman on your harness. The tail would have to redirected or be out in space with a stopper knot. Or you would need a big loop which I wouldn’t recommend.
Do a video on the Connecticut Tree Hitch
Here's my video on the Connecticut Tree Hitch (CT Hitch). I've been using it all the time ever since I learned it. th-cam.com/video/Wh5eVcHlwdU/w-d-xo.html
i always use a re-threaded bowline which doesnt need a stopper knot.
Nice video! Like all of your videos, but I‘m quite confused how difficult the method is you are using, I‘ve even seen way more complicated methods to tie this knot but it can be way way easier and completely idiot proof / not possible to mess it up.
It is difficult to explain with my English but you basically put another loop to through the first loop, just like a a sling which is tightening itself and then put the short rope leftover through this loop and pull on both sides of the knot and it will „transform“ to the knot.
It is completely idiot proof and will work in every direction and just in seconds behind your bag without any practice :)
Dali Vanwyngarden great comment thanks! 🤙🏻 yeah there a lot of ways to do it lol 😂
You need an over-the-shoulder view. Nobody likes learning knots in a mirrored view the way you demonstrated.
😂 worst rope colour choice for a knot video.... great video tho! 👍
Friend, standing end. working end , using too many words, confusing, there's better loops , yosemite finish, doesn't save the bowline
You could have done better. Didn't make head or tails of it
I will redo this thanks
It´s important to understand that the knot You show here is only ONE variant of the bowline knot and as far as I am concerned, the most unfitting for tying in when climbing! I think the only way to use it is the "Bowline on a bight". You read about a lot of accidents with a Bowline and it´s usually what You show here, the Yosemite variant.
Right on! I made this video just to show the down fall of the Yosemite. But this is definitely not one of my favorite video I made lol. I should have used brighter ropes and had the camera flipped. I’ll be redoing this one for sure and probably add the follow through bowline.
Don't use a yosemite finish, its super dangerous. With all the other propensities for this knot to be tied wrong and work itself loose while climbing, the Yosemite finish is the most dangerous finish.
Bow - Lynn ......
Not.. Bow-Line
Just saying........
using black
rope to present knots is not very helpful
“..you don’t got..”. Knot good with grammar.
is it just me or does trying to tie bowlines piss you off?