Nah! A lot of people say Aikido don't work on the street or in real life self defense, because of of that wrisk locks but the knife defense or gun defense is so very effective i think and they had a same defense with knife like in my other martial art called arnis kali eskrima the Filipino martial arts, is not same that they jumps do knife defense but in arnis we do moving not jumping
I used to practice ITF Taekwondo, WTF Taekwondo, Aikikai Aikido, and Kyokushinkai Karate. Some people condemn me for learning Aikido, but I just ignore them and keep on continuing to learn Aikido. Nowadays I am busy and have less time to practice martial arts because I am doing a PhD in Mechatronics Engineering, but I still practice the ITF Taekwondo sometimes. After I have graduated from PhD and free in the future, I will continue practising all ITF Taekwondo, WTF Taekwondo, Aikikai Aikido, and Kyokushinkai Karate again. If I'm free in the future, I would also like to learn other martial arts as well including Kendo, Judo, Uechi-Ryu Karate, Shorin-Ryu Karate, Gojo-Ryu Karate, Shito-Ryu Karate etc.
Thanks for reacting to my demo. In Aikido, part of the concept is that you can vary the position of the cursor between flow and efficacy. Because my role in this particular instance was as a representative of the International Aikido Federation, I geared this demo more on flow. You make a very good point about the lack of kicks. Usually, Aikidoka don't really know how to kick efficiently, which was the case here (it also takes a particular kind of ukemi too), so I preferred focusing on standard overhead strikes and grabs. Perhaps we can address some of Aikido's answers to karate kicks and punches in our future collaboration? Thanks again for the video!
First of all I thank both of you for sharing what you do. I'm a karate teacher and I've been practicing Aikido for two years while practicing and teaching karate. Well, I love both. And I strongly think that karate principles can improve an aikidoka technique as well as vice versa. For example, I improved my ko waza technique applying some aikido principles. And our katas tell a lot about these principles! Have a nice day!
@@apexino Same here, I picked up kyokushin karate way late in my aikido career but found it to be incredibly relevant. Plus there is that exciting feeling that there is a brand new path to travel on!
I greatly appreciate you contributions and deep respect for the times i've seen video of you taking throws from others. Please comment on the comparison of the Karate Shuto-Ate , the Aikido over head strike and the Gamae-ate strike vs the karate tsuki
One of the most "civilized", humble cross-art reaction videos I have ever since. Thank you. I've learned that in Karate, you don't strike first, so if ever a spar between Karate and Aikido, I think we can just stand there looking at each other for hours, lol.
You don't strike first in a streetfight because if you strike first that is not self defence that will be an offense but a sparring you can strike whenever you want😁😁😁👍👍👍
@@user-es8xe5bd6u it can be argued that if you strike first in a self-defense situation, that it is not a self-defense. If you felt imminent danger of a threat and your life is in danger , yes you can strike first.
Aikido is a finishing school for martial artists. There is much confusion about the defense, the best way to think of them as symbolic of authentic intent from a real attacker. The art is strong, but must be understood deeply to appreciate.
Train modern or Goshin Jujitsu and its shows how stupid throwing a person away is just, so they can get up grab a weapon and come at you again..., Train for finish not to have to fight again..
Why is Aikido a giant waste of time? What did you discover about your Aikido training, that made you feel you weren't getting anything out of it? I'm just curious.
I trained in aikido when I was a young man (many moons ago) and got to train for a weekend with a very respected sensei name Kenai from Boston and he was in his late seventies or early eighties at the time. He was a very small man and I’m 6’4 275lbs. We were doing kneeling drills and he came up and took my partners place to show me what I was doing wrong and in a flash the man had me on my face on the mat. His technique was incredible.
Warning: Wall *( not really ) Of Text I'm just a young weaboo but when I met a master of Aikido, that event change my life. I can't say i'm a experienced fighter using martial art but I did tried to learn useful martial art move. On that one day, my cousin family invited a Japanese monk to their home and I was practicing some martial art move I want to use in case of dangerous situations *( I'm Vietnamese and I worked at a late night restaurant, many mugger is said to be near my workplace so we usually go home in groups then split when we meet main road.) , the Master/Monk saw me using martial art so he asked in Japanese " Young man, you are doing it wrong " and his pupil/translator translate it into Vietnamse for me. And he just casually walk at my direction, I knew he gonna do it on me so I got into guard stance to be ready *( I'm a cocky kid so somewhere in my brain actually thinking about throw punch at him ). And he said something like " Strenght isn't enough to be called strong, but techniques, mental strenght and clear of the mind will make you somewhat stronger than now, allow me to show it to you. " I threw at punch at him and he just slow but firmly grab my wrist and all i remember is open my eyes and looking at him offering to pick me up. He stayed for a week so he taught me a lot of things in life and martial art. Sadly he passed away not long ago. RIP Master Kasumi
Hi. Kobudo practitioner here. My background was 6 years in Aikido & Kenjutsu, 3 months in Judo and now exploring Okinawan Karate and Taijutsu. The demonstration you saw there is basically a traditional style of Aikido that isn't really meant for real life situations. However, some of these techniques can be adapted to suit real life situations against street fights, Karate, BJJ or Judo. I am not too sure of some other schools of Aikido but I was exposed to an advanced level Aikido where we can use Aikido waza as an attack instead of just self-defence, and the internet doesn't have much resources on that. If you want an easy victory against an Aikido practitioner, put in a whole bunch of rules and choose practitioners that comes from the most popular schools out there. If you want a challenge, go with no rules, full contact and choose those who come from a very little known school of Aikido. In regards to your question of "How would you spar an Aikido practitioner?", my answer is: learn his flowing movements and use it against him. This is one of the things that those of us who had studied Aikido long enough was exposed to - the advanced level of using Aiki as an attack and how to counter techniques using the opponent's flow.
I thought it would be risky for non aikido person to fight on the aikido’s field, meaning trying to use their energy. That’s why I try to stay away from that game, and go for a kick. What do you think?
@@KarateDojowaKu Experienced aikidoka can counter kicks. Mae geri and mawashi geri especially. Aikido is relatively an empty hand style of kenjutsu, meaning that they use a lot of ashi sabaki and tai sabaki. If you can land your kicks in their blind spot then you may have a chance of winning. In learning Okinawan Karate I discovered that Karate doesn't cover much footwork so maybe you can start practicing footwork. Even in Aikido we try to avoid direct confrontation so we utilize footwork to get into an opponent's blind spot, hence the reason you're seeing all the circular movements. Or you can also try some baiting techniques typically used in Karate Kumite, that might throw them off.
@@Jj-gi2uv Hi Jj. I love those stories from Tohei Sensei. My aikido instructor was once his student as well, and he'd pass on Tohei Sensei's stories to us as well, especially that one about WW2. He'll keep centered, and his instincts will immediately tell him to move in a certain direction. And when he does, he realizes that he's led his squad into avoiding another terrible landmine or aerial blast. I honestly like Tohei Sensei's view of Aikido as well as O'sensei's view as well but we can't really stubbornly stick to one art and call it the ultimate art. I have my gratitude towards Aikido opening a bigger path for me towards discovering Kobujutsu, and to be honest if it wasn't Aikido and Tohei Sensei's principle of keeping one point it would've been impossible for me to practice other arts. For example, my first day doing Judo after 6 years of steady Aikido practice was as if I had practiced Judo up to 3rd or 2nd Kyu. Most of the time I was able to tell what my opponent was up to but it wasn't my place to show off so I kinda played it dumb. Anyways, I hope you are well and still practicing Aikido - my Kobujutsu practice still incorporates Aikido and Aikijujutsu elements.
In aïkido (in my dojo at least) there is no concept of "opponents", we're just partners working together to do the best technique we can. To me this is a martial art focussing on technique study, not a combat sport. The proof is : there are no competition in aïkido, it's not the purpose of it.
as an aikidoka myself, I agree that that's not the purpose.. but I believe that's the FINAL step. before reaching that step, we need to rigorously train our body and mind. I believe we need balance in our life. I think Aikido is Yin in nature therefore it's considered an internal martial art. if we lack the Yang aspect, our life will be unbalanced. all the great masters ALWAYS have solid, strong, "hard" basic. and after they truly master the Yang side, then they polish the Yin side. many people looks down on modern Aikido because the majority of Aikidoka only practices the Yin side without going through the Yang side. therefore, their Aikido becomes flimsy and only looks pretty on the outside but doesn't have any volume inside.
I did karate for 11 years, current Aikido 4th dan, Tokyo based professional wrestler also doing catch wrestling and no gi bjj. I can show you a different side to Aikido, nothing flashy just solid waza that works. Happy to do a collaboration.
One thing you should keep in mind is that when the ukemi is grabbing, the entry is the exact same as an O tsuki. There are definitely defense against kicks in aikijitsu. I practice a family system which is composed of different types of martial arts.(Karate, Taekwondo, Aikijujutsu, etc.)
Apart from the forms and traditional ways of doing a technique, aikido also works in terms of principles. If you repeat and repeat and repeat the techniques without understanding why or where it comes from... You won't be doing aikido! You will be just "dancing" as most people say. Normally people tend to keep what they see, and that's normal, but practicing you will realise that most principles can be applied in other situations. I realised when I started to practice BJJ, my aikido background (that I still practice and teach regularly), helped me a lot and worked when I tried to apply the same principles! Really nice video, I didn't know your channel, and now you have a new sub! 😁 PD: You couldn't have chosen a better aikido instructor for the video. Guillaume Erard sensei is top! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
There are several aikido instructors who do more of a “martial” focus instead of “flow art” focus, the most obvious is Steven Seagal. Check him out for something more akin to a defense art. It varies between teachers, im sure it’s the same in karate. Great review!
I did aikido for like 4 years when I was a kid Then later i transitioned to boxing And aikido guys jast cant catch a punch, even those who have good technique Buut my old sensei came around(she`s a family friend) and i told her that So she told me to show what i mean I threw a jab and got emediately kneed to the gut And then she said - now i can put you in a wrist lock xD
In 1970 I had been out of the Army for a year and decided it was time to go back to College and start Karate again as an untrained White Belt. We had 2 groups training at once, beginners and another group of more experienced people. The beginning instructor was a talented Shodan who would usually pull me up for demonstrations in front of the beginners’ group. I didn’t have a good punch, but I was quick and had good timing. Occasionally, I would actually hit him on my attack (My attitude was, “He’s the Black Belt, so he gets my best punch!” LOL. One day I went flying in to hit him and found myself pitching forward, going in a circle and heading for the ground. When I resisted face planting on the floor, he put his hand on my forehead and pitched me backwards in a flip. Being young (23) with good balance, I landed on my feet. He grabbed me again and again I was going in a downward circle heading for the floor, again I was flipped backwards. However, again I landed on my feet. Joe, the instructor, looked at me surprised and just went on explaining his lesson for the group. Four years later I took my first Aikido class. One day we were working on a move and after half an hour I thought, “Hey, this feels familiar!” Later I talked to one of my former teachers, Henry Wilkerson (from before I was in the Army) and asked if Joe knew Aikido. He said, “Yeah, Joe is a Brown Belt in. Aikido.” Here’s my analysis of the difference: in Karate, you usually know what happened to you-you got punched or kicked. In Aikido, if you DON’T KNOW your opponent knows Aikido (and if he can really apply it), you don’t know what in the HELL happened to you!. I’ve tried to explain that explanation of Aikido to Aikidoists, but they don’t usually get it. LOL. Plus, I think there is so much elegance to Aikido and it is almost magic how they can roll with no apparent effort.
Hello Karate Dojo WaKu I've began to watch your videos. Thank you for sharing. I studied Aikido for 10 months and I still find it very interesting. My sensei told us that Aikido focus on some elements from Aikijutsu, and that the tecniques we learned was based on old samurai techniques. According to my sensei, the attacker needs to hold on to the hands of the defense, because the defender is actually holding a knife or a samurai sword, and vice versa. You probably know this, since you already been doing an aikido-session. In aikido, they have this saying: Go with the flow. So the attackers best defense at the end is to accept and to proper ukemi. In reality, the attacker can of course make it very difficult to the defender, and choose not to to the proper ukemi, but it might result in a cut from a tanto or a sword. I found the practice of aikido very useful to me, working as a bouncer. As you say in the video, I got the feeling of how the aggresive bar-guests moves and in which direction I need to move myself in order to defend myself. I also see alot of comments if it's effective or not, but I think it's a matter what you are searching for. I will not recommend Aikido to anyone if the focus is to learn how to fight. It all depends on the situation. I "won" a fight with a bar-guest by holding him down by a arm-lock, until the Police arrived and took him with them. My sensei told me it would take much longer time to make any good use of Aikido in a real situation. He compared 1 year of kickboxing with 5-6 years of Aikido. But at one point, one will get to understand the meaning of the techniques. An experienced Aikidoka with 30 years of practice might be able to defend himself/herself quite well. Then there is this "dangerous topic" about what is martial art. As a practioner of the martial art Nanbudo for almost 23 years, I actually still don't know the answer for what martial art is. I'm still searching and wants to learn. Although my sensei was very focused about the spiritual part of Aikido and self-development though Budo and moving-zen, one can discuss if Aikido might focus on other things than beeing very practical. I don't know if this was very helpful at any point, but I felt for writing to you. As I wrote in the beginning, I've already practiced for 10 months and I humbly would say that I MAYBE understand 5 % of the things my sensei taught me. The same answer that the Aikido-master is Japan told us when we visited Japan in 2007. "I only understand 5% of what O Sensei taught me". Keep on making more videos! Domo arigato gozaimashita! Best regards from Norway
My Taekwondo teacher is also a master of Hapkido. Hapkido and Aikido have a common root in their histories. Hapkido uses a lot of joint locks, and I saw that in this video, too. I believe both styles are descended from Aiki jiujutsu, which was developed to fight samurai in full armor.
Interesting review and reaction. Thank you for posting. Aikido for 10 years now, definitely not Master level. More like promising beginner. Would be fun to work with you in karate.
First thing to remember is the basic movements of Aikido are all based on sword fighting. So the angles, distances, and footwork all come from there. Yes Irimi is a very big part of Aikido. Again from the sword. Only two safe places when you’re dealing with a sword. Far enough away from the blade or in and off the line of the blade. Same is true when someone is throwing punches or kicks. Also remember that Aikido and Judo both come from the same root. Jiujitsu. So while you don’t see much Judo in the kind of demonstration you reviewed all of the chokes, leg sweeps, and other takedowns are there. The ukemi waza is how you learn these things. Once you lose your fear of falling you see the openings for these by default. Aikido is a circular martial art as you mentioned, but that’s also how techniques are revealed. You practice the basics and the Ukemi long enough and all the other things you can’t see now become self evident.
Aikido helped my headspace enormously as a young man. I couldn’t judge Aikido accurately on fighting effectiveness outside of general things like spacing and where I do or don’t want to be in a situation, where I found it to be extremely helpful. The way I was taught was nearly always defending simulated knife fights. If someone was trying to quickly strike, my aim (it seemed) was nearly always to move to one side or the other - this provoked a response in them, and very quickly “the circle” is being set up. The faster or harder they strike (even if they immediately retreat) the easier it is to understand their inertia and how it can be manipulated - although doing it was often much more difficult. I have no idea on the quality of the tuition I received or otherwise, as I say, the main thing I took from it was a different understanding in how I approached aspects of my life.
I had some limited martial arts training when I was younger (I'm 59 now), and I must say, I really enjoy what seems to be a new generation of martial arts collaboration. When I was "growing up" in martial arts it was all about what style is better (which I think is a bizarre question). I studied Goju-ryu, then American Kenpo, and finally Aikido (limited study in all three). I enjoyed all three and never saw them as "instead of". In other words I didn't choose each because I thought that it was better or more effective; I saw them as complimenting each other. Which brings me to the current trend I'm seeing online. I have watched and enjoyed the videos by you, Jesse Enkamp, and a couple of others. You seem to be ambassadors of martial art and enjoy working together and learning from each other. It's a very nice change. Of course each of you, like anybody would, will continue in your own style (and probably for more than one reason), but you don't put down the other styles. To the contrary, you share information and techniques while sometimes exploring some cultural differences that influenced a given art. Well done.
In aikido there are defences against kicks. However, a general rule in aikido is that for the execution of a technique it is irrelevant whether or not tori is throwing a punch, a kick a knife attack or whatever. So in short, we learn that the type of attack is not really important. The distance on the other hand is. So a grab is short range, a punch is mid range, whereas an attack with a jo (staff) or bokken (woorden sword) is long range. Compare a kick with a jo or bokken attack. If you would like to see defences against kicks, watch Christian Tissier demonstrations (8th dan) Furthermore, there are nog blocs in aikido. We blend with the technique. Finally , you mentioned the concept of prima. The founder of aikido (Morihei Ueshiba) said " Aikido is irimi and atemi". So we combine both a strike (to unbalance tori and keep correct distance) with irimi to blend in with the technique and keep tori unbalanced throughout the entire movement.
As far as I know, Aikido was created for a more non--combative Do / Art. The circle became larger and centrifugal where before was Intrapedal. Wally Jay went the other direction to small circle jujitsu though still bringing uke inward. If you break a Sake bottle into pieces, pickup the spout its still came from the whole bottle.
In Aikido you must welcome their energy but resist it ever so slightly, like water or mud. When Aikido techniques receive attacks, it often resembles shooting a bullet into water. You'll see how the attack's energy gets absorbed by the Akidoka, just liek a bullet shot into water slows down and stops. Only in Aikido the energy is often, then, transmitted back into the attacker. In traditional Aikido this energy is transmitted into the attacker and often towards the ground. This usually ends in a shoulder pin. The idea is to direct all incoming energy to the ground. One strange thing about aikido, is that you spend so much time falling that you start to understand what temporary weightlessness is like. Just like any other free-fall, such as in skydiving or when an object is orbiting around the earth, in aikido you experience temporary weightlessness often. I found this understanding for gravity and free-fall inspired my understanding of physics and general relativity. I was amaze how practical of a demonstration aikido really is of relativistic principals. One thing I vividly remember was how fighting a person felt like two planets falling into each other. As though our will to fight was a gravity all it's own. What was incredible was how you would see dynamic behavior, like you might see in high energy physics, play out between two spirited aikidoka. To me this was Aikido, fighting with the power of attraction.
With the point you made about keeping the arms down in Aikido, generally we've been taught to keep the arms up. That way, if the opponent were to come in with a grasp or strike, you wouldn't have their weight bearing down on you, and you'd be protecting yourself. There are a lot of circular movements in Aikido because you're essentially trying to redirect the energy of the attack, quite often at a tangent. I've recently started to practice Karate, and I've noticed it applies to this as well - I've noticed when blocking, the hand/arm rotates to dissipate the force of the blow - it's the same idea really.
Or skip Aikido and go directly to Aikijutsu. Aikido is great to help improve your flow and defensive footwork but Aikijutsu is much more practical and realistic. Aikido plays to much with the large circle concept. You can use the Aikido blending then reverse the energy and utilize the Karate hip rotation applications. Good video. Thanks for posting!
In the case of a kick, we have tai sabaki on 3 steps for kicks. Related to the circular movements, tai sabaki is when you rotate your body to get out of an attack. On one step is having the front foot bent with the back foot stretched a little, and have the back leg rotate in a half circle movement. On two steps is when you bring the back foot in front then make a half circle with the current back foot. On three steps is to step out side the line of attack with the front foot also having the front arm move diagonally down thus avoiding the kick and then step the back foot in front then move the back leg in semi circle.
I studied shotokan karate for many years before I started studying aikido. I found that karate helped me understand the body mechanics of aikido, and that every movement has a reason, that's when you finally understand the sould of aikido techniques, you don't move innecessarily. I also find that since aikido is a defensive martial art, given a real fighting situation, I would use it for evasive/defensive movements, and I'd use shotokan for attack. I also find that both martial arts have taught me enough to know how to stay away from innecessary confrontations
In my short experience in Aikido, there is no combat/opponents in it. In demostrations or practice, a hand is usually given or is grabbed in my experience, and then a technique is done depending on who the uke or nage is. It was a class worth a unit that I took for a few semesters (I could take the same course multiple times) during college. Getting thrown and having to roll (being the uke) for like 10 minutes continuously gets you pretty exhausted. Your whole body is in motion with the constant up and down movement of your body. I remember doing free style rounds where someone would grab you or try to grab you and you would have to respond. There might be three students trying to grab you and you just had to avoid or use whatever techniques you can. This is what I think was more realistic in the self defense aspect as you have to gauge your own response to what other people do. There is also not much resistance in Aikido because of how easily bones can be broken. You don't want to be stiff or try to pull against someone if you are trapped in a wrist lock, you go with it and let them lead you. Even with your feet too, i remember my Sensei pushing and pulling against feet and legs too. For some of us who came from Karate (there was a karate college class too as well, which I also took), like me, for demonstration purpose, we would kick and sometimes when they actually managed to grab the foot or leg, they would manipulate it like a wrist, locking the ankle and knock the kicker over. Aikido for me definitely supplemented my martial arts knowledge along with BJJ and TKD all thanks to my college. Karate is my main style. Learning how to fall and distribute energy was such a useful thing to learn as it's definitely one of the best ways to protect yourself. It's where I learned how to roll properly.
Someone asked me about Aikido and what it is to me. Aikido is like a choreographed tango between the two practitioners. Nonverbal communication between tori and uke, in deep concentration, orchestrating each other's submission. Every move is a reflection of one state of mind. Aikido is the acceptance of what is going to happen. To let the aggressor know that there are other ways than violence. To subdue your opponent without causing more harm to yourself and your aggressor. There are no competitions other than the one with yourself. There are other forms of Aikido for example Tomiki aikido, Takemuso, Iwama, Ki-Aikido (to name a few) en the one I am practicing is Aikikai. Kind regard. Ha Mirii
@@SaikouKarate Can't argue with that. Just ask Gene LeBell or Steve Seagal...though Stevie might lie. I do like their wrist locking techniques I have to be honest.
the throw are amplified by the attacker. in aikido or hapkido, the practitionner who attack will throw himself once in a lock to avoid the break. normally like in hapkido once you attack and the other is blocking and gonna have a lock on your arm or hand etc etc then you jumps to liberate yourself of the lock. normally the attack is not finished until you cannot undo the lock
Yes Mister Yusuke. Aikido does have plenty of techniques against kicks, all kind of kicks, and yes, following the principles of round movements and using uke energy against hi or her, circular movements and other movements too. This techniques are for advanced degrees, once you "master" certain movements of your body.
Historically Aikido was never meant to be a stand-alone art. From my understanding black belts of already established martial arts were the only people who are accepted into Aikido. So in my opinion Aikido is designed as a supplemental art. To answer the question it would fail in all regards. It would be dependent on the individual and how willing he is to learn striking and grappling with Aikido
Might want to check this video out: th-cam.com/video/0KUXTC8g_pk/w-d-xo.html This guy gave up doing Aikido and starting training MMA instead after realizing he couldn't hold his own in sparring.
@@Silamoth u mix them not just drop a style for a diffrent style u just adapt I haven't lost any fights yet and akidio has been usefull in the street multiple times saved my ass and at times just simply stoped the fight cause they couldn't do nothing without there arm breaking
Actually I've been doing akidio for about 12 yrs it wasn't my first style but it definitly stuck with me and if u change it based on the situation it works well on the streets and combat sports the akidio arm lock will make an enemy break there own arm tryna break out the reason the people go with the movements and don t resist is defence if u resist ur arm breaks from the wrist to the shoulder so resistance is futile best bet is go with the movements to keep urself safe here they teach u the form and how to roll so if someone else trys that on u it won't work ud be surprised how usefull this style can be if used correctly also my sensai d idnt teach me in this pretty way he taught me to use in real life speed against real life fighting moves like jabs straight hooks kicks knees elbows and headbuts cause some people do get desperate but these guys could actually hold there own in a grappling match but in. A real fight u must train ur style for real life situations and movements so the answer is this a usefull style it's extremely usefull for what ur useing it for if u train it for that situation if it's the street make it less choreographed if combat sports make it more aggressive and make sure ur striking is just as good as ur akidio but for katas all u need is a good partner and some mats for form practice but those are just my opinions I like the style personally and I do appreciate u giving respect to all these styles regardless if there combat sports or just basic Kata I see ur wise beyond your years and I have a high respect for you and your karate as well honestly I never got all that good at karate so honestly I'd trust u to teach me u seem to know ur stuff very well keep up the vidios
One point worth bringing up about the grips is that (I can only speak for Iwama Ryu, the teachings of Morihiro Saito Sensei) normally you would begin in Shomen Uchi (a strike like a sword from above) carried out by tori/nage and uke would defend by raising his arm like a sword and then to prevent the aikidoka from performing any technique he would push down the hand and grab. Then tori/nage would perform a technique from there. However it took much time to do this in every technique so Saito started to teach from a direct grab. That is why aikidokas often keep their hands low. Because we are skipping the step of the shomen uchi. (This is a generalisation and holds true for at least morote dori, ai hanmi katate dori and ushiro waza). Regarding techniques against kicks, they are normally not performed in most schools (partly because it wasn't traditionally but also because it is very hard). Aikido is very much about keeping your balance which is why we always keep contact with the ground so kicking would go against this. A possible defence against a front kick could be an ikkyu performed to the leg which is sometimes used, but often it can be better to just avoid it and then perform shomen uchi to prevent uke from raising his leg again.
Generally when someone attacks with a kick to a Aikido, the end result is usually a face-plant. So in other words, kicks are just like punches, just a different part of the body.
Greeting from indonesia sensei. Im 2nd dan in tkd n also brown belt in aikido. In aikido we call " hv eye in our hand" so if u grabbed in any direction, u knew what to do. Respect sensei. Onegeshimasu
With the comment regarding irimi - Aikido techniques often have 2 polarities of movements - these are usually irimi and tenkan, or uchi and soto. In irimi we enter into the space in front of our opponent and turn them into a non-confrontational position. In tenkan we instead enter the space behind our opponent to get into a non-confrontational position ourselves. As I posted a couple of months back, I've recently started to practice Karate alongside Aikido, and I'm interested in merging the 2 together to see how they can complement each other! 🙂
@@KarateDojowaKu that sounds even better, as usually beginners learn to break their fall and some basic foot sweeps and reaps. hopefully you can do some hip throws and submissions :)
I am 65 and have practiced Aikido for more or less 15 years, I would say I am a good beginner and realized that to attain master level I should have started a lot earlier. Aikido has defenses againt all types of kicks I have seen Japanese senseis apply them very succesfully. I also believe that to apply it on the street fights (not my objective) you have to train for real street situation, which for most Dojos does not seem to be the case.
Thank you Sensei for featuring Aikido in your vlog, I am an Aikido practitioner myself and a 2 or 3 mins. demonstration is not enough to describe how effective is Aikido as a martial art. You must understand the techniques how to use it effectively. In our dojo starting from 1st KYU promotion until you become a shodan you have to get through on all sort of attacks (kicks, boxing, grapling, stick and knife). Its not that you will just perform the techniques but you have to defend yourself using Aikido techniques. for me I am confident to say that Aikido is effective. Again thank you Sensei for featuring Aikido.
Just to tell you some basics to understand aikido. The two akido principles according to O Sensei Morihei Ueshiba are Irimi and Atemi. Irimi is to enter in the attack of uke/aite. Atemi is very important, even if nowadays we mostly use it to distract uke/aite to help to break is balance, in the old days atemis were prominents for tori to start and finish a movement (example on Ikkyo : an atemi in the ribs, then irimi and the ikkyo technique, and an atemi to finish uke), since aikido comes from the daito ruy aiki ju jutsu school, because Morihei Ueshiba was a student of Sokaku Takeda, the great master of that school. As a consequence, aikido shares a lot of techniques and principles with this school. A difficult thing to master in aikido is to be able to simutaneously deflect an attack/protect ourself from an attack AND at the SAME time doing a counter irimi attack Another thing you should watch closely is the kamae (guard) and how aikidokas manage distances between uke and tori. it is different from karate but you will understand it quickly (as a former judo practionner I was lost at first). Another very important principle is that in aikido we use what uke/aite is giving to break his balance by connecting with him and absorbing or entering in his attack. This concepts exists in advanced judo katas as well such as kime no kata, goshin jutsu (designed in the 1950s long after Jigoro Kano's death, by a team of judo great senseis, among them Kenji Tomiki who was a student both of Jigoro Kano and Morihei Ueshiba, and a master of the two arts, that is why this kata contains iconic aikido techniques such as kote gaeshi), koshiki no kata (as a former judoka I understand these kata better with aikido). As for the grabs their origin is that the technics you see were designed to counter an attack on the battlefield, when someone grabbing you to prevent you drawing your sword or tento, that is why these grabs still exists. If you practice Iaido you will recognize some mouvements that are exactly the same, since lot of aikido techniques come from sword movements. That is why in aikido we have a lot of exercices using a bokken to do properly a mouvement. There are katas and exercices with a jo even if we grab the jo like a baïonet since Morihei Ueshiba was a jukken instructor in the japanese army during the war with Russia in the beginning of the 20 th century. There are moved with the jo you will recognize as a karate instructor such as tsukki. We use also a lot of counters against atemis given by uke/aite (yokomen ushi, shomen ushi, jodan tsukki, shodan tsukki we even use them with the jo), we practise as kind of katas that is why you see these beautiful mouvements, but the ideas is to give you the sense of direction of attacks, from where they are coming and where they go, to counter them efficiently. There are some rare sutemis in aikido to counter an attack after a first failed technic for example. As for the ukemis, there are a bit differents from judo ukemis. Since the purpose is not the same for uke. In some techniques like kote gaeshi and juji garami which are not throws but ways to break your wrist or your arm and they only way to avoid this is to do specific ukemis. Or in other technics like koshi nage the goal is to absord the fall, but in a different way as in judo, to be right up back to attack again. There are randoris exercices with a single tori and 2 or 3 or even 4 ukes attacking one after one other with stereotyped attacks or grabs (yokomen ushi, shomen ushi, ryote katate dori) and tori's goal is to escaped, and be a movable and unreachable target by keeping the opponants in line and throw them or control them. the three main ways to move in aikido are irimi, tenkan and tai sabaki. irimi to do an omote technique (direct entrance), tenkan to do an ura technique (let uke pass and use his strengh). We have exercices in handashi waza (sitting in seiza, moving doing shikkos which i still suffer doing) (on the knees for non japanese speakers), or hanmi handachi waza (tori sitting, uke/aite standing). we can do it with the bokken or jo too it is difficult. These last ways are very linked to japanese culture, specially in the Eido period, since people where sitting a lot and a protocole and etiquette were developped around this. The buke, samurais were often hired by the lords to garanty security in official meetings were weapons were officially not allowed (like the guys doing security in night clubs), and since samourai were forbidden to spill blood in official venues they developped all the technics to control an opponent that are used in aikido, and learned how to do these technics on their knees against a sitting or standing opponent. It is just to explain the origin since a lot of non japanese will not understand why in aikido we do technics sitting like this. Thanks for reading and take care.
HI, I am an Aikido - Aikijutsu practitioner , and From My experience Aikido is more for Show, but Aikijutsu beeng the base of Aikido is more Agressive and can be use in sparring.
In aikido, the ground is your foe, so you train against the ground and if a person challenges you you show them the ground. Or, if they're more aiki than you, they show you the ground.
I have trained both Aikido (Iwama-ryu) and Karate (Kyokushin). Started with Aikido to later practice Karate. During a Bunkai of Kake uke, I realized that this was something very similar to what I learned in Aikido.
Hi. I practiced aikido for 10 years total. It's true we don't practice techniques against kicks much, and I think there are no such techniques in the canon, but when you're a bit more advanced and grasp the concepts behind aikido techniques, you can naturally extend how you react to punches to how would you react to kicks. Some of my trainings involved defense against kicks: For mae-geri I move to the outside, block or control the kick with one hand, and just after the kick I try to quickly move forward and do iriminage (a head or should grab and throw). For mawashi-geri I move to the inside to slow the impact, try to catch the kick, and then move forward and push my patner back or swipe his other leg (or move vey close, grab the gi, and throw the partner down, while controlling the fall). You can also take a look at this karate/aikido demonstration: th-cam.com/video/bhXp9qkf8zo/w-d-xo.html Here, Christian Tissier, the aikido practitioner, mostly blocks and avoid the kicks and waits for better opportunity.
If you combine these aikido techniques with any martial art, it is extremely effective. All it takes is for you to stun someone with a strike(s) and in that moment, execute any of those movements. Either comply or have your joint(s) broken. Then repeat, if necessary.
the touching of the hand is a training concept. In the real world an attacker will not reach and touch necessarily. we are taught to blend with the attackers energy.
It's good to see that you going down different paths and exploring the truth is you are your skill you make it it doesn't make you and only the truth in any system to protect and defend oneself fight in a rotated state show no mercy and go for the elimination and overall be simply be the best
Your absolutely right when you point the attacks are incorrect. It is not a big part of training for many aikido practicioner. But about receiving the attack , it is an absorbtion. Look at the work of Kuroda Tetsuzan. Even taught it is not considered as aikido, it is based on the same principles.
In Aikido we use body balance so break the balance of the partener without using power. Circular movement is a good way to move without using power because of 遠心力。 When you look from far aikido looks slow but because of that circular movement the partner feel speed At the begining when you start aikido yot start technics by grab because it's easier and slower, good to understand. when you get level you work more on punch and kiks too. when some one attaks you you always have a touch point so it's the same that grab. In other martial arts when some one attacks you almost block or escape the attack but in Aikido we use the concept of irimi to break the attak or we absorb the attack to use it. If you want let's talk about it! (^_-)
Some very successful MMA fighters use a strategy for takedown defense that is very similar to the principles that Aikido suggests (however faulty), such as allowing a wrestler to grab the lead leg as bait for an advantageous scramble. José Aldo is a fighter who presents a perfect example of that principle in action.
Not only kicks, anything you'll throw at them would be effective since Aikidokas dont do sparring and therefore won't be prepared for anything at real speed. If they can grab you then I guess a very strong, high level practitioner ( even if he doesn't do much sparring) like Mr. Erard could throw you on the math - with a certain ease? - unless you have a good judo/wrestling base.
@@aikibaby lol, at calling up Oyama to make a comparison, only in the interwebs. Anyway, my comment was aimed at a sparring between Mr. Erard and the owner of this channel. Now, do I believe some of the strong, old masters of Aikido could be somehow competitive in a grappling match (grips entangled, which was my original premise) against Oyama? I sure do.
We don’t do sparring in Aikido and that’s why the art is very hard to understand as a first martial art. The same concept and importance of power generated from the Centre is universal, aikido utilizes it differently. It’s like the game stealing the “opponent’s flag” ; we maintain our balance through footwork while entering to steal the uke’s balance/Centre adding our Centre to theirs and executing the technique/throw. That’s why the concept of flowing water is fundamental. It’s really not the easiest thing to learn and many of us are far from understanding and living it.
I practiced Aikido before, but this is just my personal opinion. Aikido just teach and pretend principal movement and no sparing competition. So it's just body conditioning. But in the other side, we can freely develop the principal of Aikido movement, power, and intention to another martial arts technique. So, once again, (this is my personal opinion) Aikido must mix with other martial art technique to be used in practical situation. Aikido will make your consumption energy more efficient because of breathing and flow movement technique. I'm very happy to hear your suggestion and feedback.
If you're using kicks against aikido, be aware that some practitioners are good at catching your leg and applying an ankle lock. So make sure the kicks aren't telegraphed and have good snap, I ashi-barai could also be a good option.
May I recommend people taking a look at tomoki Aikido it is not very common and is a sport version of Aikido to offer a different perspective. Many Aikidoka look down on this version.
Great review! You should check out Yasunori Konishi Sensei. He was a karate legend who was also a student of Ueshiba, Morihei. I think that he came up with some katas specifically to show and get the approval of Ueshiba. Another teacher to check out is Nishio, Shoji who was also a Karateka and a Judoka before he got into Aikido. His movements are very interesting. Regarding kicks, a proper Aikidoka should treat it as if it is a sword attack since Aikido and Japanese swordsmanship are actually one and the same. Proper distance is also important. If you are in Japan, I am sure that you will find a lot of great teachers that you can maybe interview and exchange ideas with. Keep up the great work!
I had practiced Aikido for 15 years. I think people look at nage (someone performing the defensive move) as the one who is at the center of Aikido. But that's not true at all. Uke's (someone performing the offensive move) technique is vital. Not only do they need to give good practice to nage, but also they must know how to protect themselves from injury. More times in my life, knowing how to fall, how to relax, how to 'take punishment' smoothly, done more good. While it is certainly important to understand the defensive position, a well trained Uke is the greatest part of any dojo training.
If you were to spar someone who knew aikido and you were going to try to use kicks against them they would use evasion techniques. It's hard to spar using aikido because if your opponent doesn't go along with the flow he or she could end up severely injured. I've practiced aikido but it was taught to me very untraditionally, While I was learning it I was also taught the art of aiki-jujitsu which is the style I tend to lean more into. Aiki-jujitsu is the parent art of jujitsu and aikido I also believe that it is more combative for the streets. I have a friend who trained with me who would beg to differ ( he leans towards aikido he also is looking to take shotokan) but these are my own opinions. I was always told that aiki-jujitsu was 90% percent atemi's (strikes) and 10%percent technique this is how it taught to me. Both styles are closely related.
As a former Aikido practitioner now a karateka/muay thai practitioner It is very much the opposite from karate as it is not exactly a fighting art but more of a defensive art since we are using the attackers energy. It's not designed for dealing with other trained fighters but rather more of a way of life to lead...a philosophy of "balance" which is culturally japanese. I would probably describe Aikido as the psychology of martial arts as it targets to reframe people's mindsets and behaviours from the need to fight but to go with whatever flow is presented. Unlike Karate of where it is designed to fight. Also on your question on why aikidokas keep their hands low it's because they showing how to bait the attacker to attack which is a similar tactic in kumite and other striking arts.
To the Question of how to spar an Aikido Fighter, first needs an introduction of Aikido. Aikido is a fighting system that doesnt exclude Kickboxings techniques, or Judo or Wrestling techniques but extends them to the notion of using the enemy energy for you. To take advantague of enemys moves you must do a "stimulation" against enemy equilibrium. The stimulation can be a push or pull. You must take in count 2 facts, the X made by the four extremitys, legs and arms plus the head, and that there is a sideways h that controls gravity center that are two straight lines one in the hip and other between shoulders united by another straight line that passes through gravity center and umbilicus. Having these in count when you pull or push an extemity you make the enemy react: by opposing to the movement or following the movement, then you take in count waht is happening to the gravity center "h" schemma and choose again where to stimulate the enemy equilibrium and response to take him out of equilibrium and make it fall or crush a hit or hit the phisical enviorement arround the fight, using your body and extremitys for this as obstacles and maybe twisting the enemy extremity in their articulation, what needs an aclaration too, under a twist it doesnt mean the enemy will be thrown flying by you, it will follow the twist or oppsose it with its strenght and pain resistance, where you must decide what to do again, if it resist you can dislocate its articulation paying attention to its counterattacks, or maybe if it follows the twist you can pull or push in that direction to make it loose its equilibrium, including puting your body and extremitys as obstacle. I think it is only left to say that, for example, in water combat, rules changue cause you dont have the desequilibrium factor, but asfixias or potentiating enemy movement in a direction and using hits in the opposite direction or dislocating articulations are still efective technqiues that you learn better than in styles of kicks and box or wrestlings. Aikido is like a cience, but to apply it is really difficult, cause it needs to evaluate biophisical movements desitions in sparring timing, and that needs a lot of training. To how to Spar an Aikido Master? To avoid entering its Guard and avoid getting your exremitys grabs, like a cat fighting a Dog, you must enter and get out, like when you practice senkutsu from ankutsu oi-tsuki and get back to an-kutsu guard, or the same with geris, cause if you enter its guard, he will use Aikido to take advantague of your answers to its pulls, pushs and twists, and also if you let yourselve beign grabbed. The cycle of an Aiko Ippon is: Aikido: Stimullate by grabing push, pulling, maybe adding articulations torsion. Foe: Biophisical Answer, follow the stimul or oppose. Aikido: Solution, After Biophisical Evaluation of the Answer you must choose the Ipon, hitting or obsaculating with body or extremitys foe response, or pushing or pulling to make enemy fall or hit the phisical items in the fight scenario, or submition moves as blood or air afixias or submitons positions. To these Stimullo, Answer, Solution schemma only needs to add that in answer to be solved there must be added the parallel answers, like when instead of following or oposing to pulls or push, the adversary makes a sidestep, or loose the grabs with a free arm, or trys to hit the Aikido participant.
I think Wado Ryu Karate has a lot of similarities with Aikido, because there are some Jujutsu techniques in Wado Ryu, and Aikido descends from Daitō-Ryū Aikijūjutsu; this martial art derives from an ancient combat system called Bujutsu which includes also Jujutsu. You are more informed than me. In AIkido there are a lot of techniques that are used to block the kick or lift the leg to throw the opponent, but Karateka are very fast, you can cover long distances with long leg movements, your punches are quick and sudden.
I'd recommend against attempting to kick a skilled aikidoka. To an aikidoka. the ground is where your power comes from. So giving up your connection to the ground for a kick is often what an aikidoka wants from you, the attacker In my school, only very skilled aikidoka could train techniques vs kicks, because to train said techniques you have to also receive it and it very difficult to perform ukemi vs a throw performed against a kick. In a nutshell, Aikido techniques vs kicks come out faster and drop the kicker to the ground harder. This is all because the kicker sacrifices more of their balance to even attempt the kick. The main three skills you go for in aikido are speed, balance and timing. So if you want to counter an aikidoka you must be faster, more balanced and have better timing. What you do not need is more power. To get more power you need to sacrifice one of those three things and sacrificing any of them, often gives the advantage to the aikidoka. If you really want to clobber an aikidoka, use feints to mess with their timing and use strikes to their legs to weaken their posture. Try to sacrifice as little of your stability as possible when you chose to act and expect to have to counter their inevitable counter.
I suppose low kicks are fine if used properly. There is a quick low-kick that comes out like a step that comes to mind, that would be very effective against aikdoka. It strikes at the shins or even ankles but ends as a step. So you don't really sacrifice any of your balance for it. The kick I'm thinking of is almost like a stop but it comes out at a slight angle and thus doesn't hit the ground like a stomp would. However it would crush an ankle if an ankle was where you were stepping/kicking. I remember hearing that every kick is a step. So against a skilled aikidoka, I would just say, keep your kicks more step like than kick like.
To spar with, low kicks and jabs. In and out. Would be interesting to see how Muay Thai or Karate spar with Aikido, BJJ too. Aikido has very deep principles and philosophy. It can take many years to transcend them and be actually effective. Their purpose is different from many combat sports, self fefense or even some more hardcore martial arts as Muay Thai, Boran or Kuyokushinkai.
As a blue belt in shito-ryu i remember sparring a 2nd dan from aikido, he kept a long arm trying to grab my front hand from fighting stance but never succeeded, instead i remeber using kake-uke (forgive me if spelling incorrect) to seize the wrist of the arm he kept trying to seize me with and using his body for counter-balance plowed some decent round kicks into his ribs using ball of foot rather than instep for added effect. Ive realised in retrospect this would have appeared overly aggressive to him, existing in an art that seems to be built around showing unrealistic levels of kindness to your training partners, but ultimately if he cannot defend, its simply uneffective! None the least of which from a blue belt 3yrs into the art vs his decade long career. Either way we bow and show due control and due respect.. even if a little rough around the edges
I want to comment on your opinion about the hands down they did before any kata. Do you watch Adam Chan regarding Bruce Lee saying that martial art without sparring is like dry land swimming? But then he adds that sparring is like swimming in a bathtub. His point is, sparring is a good exercise but can't substitute drill. Drills indeed don't train you to fight but it's one of the best option for reality scenario. In reality, there's no sparring. Ppl don't pose and ppl don't fight. The one that will help you is your awareness and your natural reaction. Sparring trains many aspects in martial art like structure, mobility, strength, etc. But kata or form train your natural reaction. Sparring train your martial art intellectually, kata or form train your unconscious mind to make the technique natural. This's why mma fighter still get owned in ambush situation because they don't have time to react intellectually and this's why martial art that only train kata or form can't fight because fighting by itself is an intellectual process.
A LITTLE CORRECTION YOU SAY THERE IS ALWAYS A CIRCLE BEFORE PUSHING THE OPPONENT TO THE GROUND. THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY CIRCLE AND THE CONTINUOUS CIRCLE CHANGING DIRECTIONS IS WHAT THROWS THE OPPONENT.
Regarding the flow, one must make a distinction - in one hand you have the Tokyo (Aikikai) style of practicing - flowing soft movements from day one. On the other hand of the spectrum, you have Iwama and Yoshinkan, in which you have a control, stance and centerlized enphasis from the start (it tends to be a bit harder style of practicing, but I find it pays off latter on) - the flow comes latter. Similar to what you have in Karate, there are also several styles and aproaches in Aikido.
Check out Hapkido, a Korean martial art based on Aiki Jujutsu, the same martial art Aikido is based on. It looks like a mix between Tae Kwon Do and Aikido.
Hello, First: I like your videos. Second: I respond to your question about kick deffense in Aikido. There are ways how in Aikido kicks are managed. For example: Mai geri is blocked with Gedan barai, either on the in side or the outside of the opponent, connected with an step in (irimi) and a strike to the face with the free hand (atemi), to get in range for grabs and throws. Mawashi geri defense, mostly is teached to step in the opponents mai ai, with arms forward blocking the kick then folow to a grab or throw. Ura mawashi geri an Aikidoka is teached to move behind the kickers back and then grab the opponent and pull him to the ground in the direction of the kick. The thing to manage kicks, the Aikido way is to shorten the distance so that the kick can not generate its full power, which is not an easy task to do facing a real good kick. Kick defense is not teached very often in comparison to other types of attacks like the grabs you saw in the video or punches. For one it's dangerous to go againts a kick for students ,who in their entire life did not face a real kick or any other discipline than Aikido. To learn proper defence in Aikido againts kicks, you need first a partner (uke) who knows how to kick the proper way. Not all practicioners of aikido are kickers. You need good timing to enter into a kick therefore it's teached mostly in advanced classes. I send You some links to a Aikido kick defence demos which I personaly like. th-cam.com/video/8XtGibJw82Y/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/GoO3ZfJgHio/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/bhXp9qkf8zo/w-d-xo.html
Nagano sensei, I think you are correct in noticing that kicks are not common in Aikido. Atemi in Aikido training seems direct and relatively simple compared to Karate, White Crane kung fu, and even kumite taught in Dan Zan Ryu jujitsu. Most attacks often are simple atemi or strikes based upon katana or jo like yokomen or shomen strikes. That being said, Aikido still has a beauty that is unique, and it has its place in the martial arts because who can categorically state that one martial art has superiority over another. On the other hand, someone practicing a predominantly percussive art like Karate and participating in juiwaza/randori with an Aikidoka may strike too fast for the Aikidoka to connect. In my opinion, you would have to find a very accomplished Aikidoka to have a meaningful freestyle bout. Timing probably would be crucial for the Aikidoka. One other thing, in my experience, American Aikidoka are not used to being hit and do not condition their hands. Japanese Aikidoka may be different because some train and take high falls (ukemi/ustemi) on hard wooden floors. All of this, of course, is my opinion based upon my training, and others are free to disagree with my views.
I practice karate shotokan and had a aikido dojo. They are complementary. In aikido uke is very important and learn to protect his body for injuries. And the best protection is a good ukemi. Some demonstrations are slow for the audience. And seems that is a combination. Try to break the connection with your opponent, you receive a powerful atemi. Thanks for respect the others martial arts.
Appreciate this video and your open look at Aikido from the Karate mind. I’m an Aikidoist of about 10 years and can easily tell you that you would be very successful in winning a match unless you were paired against someone who was skilled in other arts. Aikido can be effective against the drunk guy in a bar or a scrap with someone who isn’t a skilled fighter but against a trained fighter? No way. Not even close. People like to make fun of the art saying it’s bullshido or whatever and they are missing the point. It’s a philosophy and spiritual practice that manifests physically in a framework that looks much like Japan’s older battlefield arts, like aikijujitsu and daito ryu.. both of which historically were brutal -when times were very different. I think Karate (while more effective than aikido) by itself would also get smashed by an mma guy. These fighters are BRUTAL. This is a very different philosophy than BUDO. You really can’t compare them. Enjoy exploring the layers of Aikido and why we do some things that don’t make sense. There is usually a damn good reason or someone is teaching poorly. Peace. I
I have not experienced much kicks in aikido. I have practiced against maegeri but that's all. Though there are different techniques I have practiced with it. I don't know how other kicks would work with aikido but I think you could use same ideas with other kicks too.
The context that is often overlooked with Aikido is that the techniques originate from disarming or retaining weapons. It doesn't make sense to let someone grab your hand unless you have a weapon in your possession and someone is trying to take it away from you or someone is attacking you with a weapon and you need to disarm them. That's why you don't often see aikido practitioners kick or punch; there are better arts for that. Aikido doesn't make sense (in how it's traditionally practiced) in an unarm situation, the timing and rhythm of someone with or without weapons is vastly different.
You should watch videos regarding Chiba Sensei, Osawa Shihan Sensei, Donovan Shihan Sensei and old Waka Sensei videos... I believe they are amongst the best aikidokas
Aikido is interesting. In some ways it has some similarities with the Jujutsu side of Wado Ryu. It has a lot of motions inspired by the sword as does karate which causes some overlaps as well some opportunities for cross pollination.
I know Aikido is different from Judo, but is Aikido the soft movement of Judo? I mean they throw the opponents to the ground, the difference is one looks soft, the other is hard
Judo has a smaller tighter circle than Aikido. Judo appears to spike on the throws. Aikido students quit often try to throw themselves while blending. Aikido tends to open uke's position in the outcome. I just want to say one thing, that all of the top instructors train both Aikido and Judo. When you look at the dojos in Japan, the same people in the Karate class are often student from the other classes.
@karate guy also, the defense against yomen uchi looks ridiculous until someone tries to smash a bottle on your head, but unless you are constantly fighting people who smash things in your head its not pretty practical either
@karate guy O sensei studied more than one art. ...But to see my point look at Tomiki-ryu aikido from the Kodokan (a judo school) vs the regular Aikido taught in the Aiki dojos. The Kodokan school also taught Karate (-do) ....try Satoh sensei in Tomiki and look at the background of Nishio sensei
@@gingercore69 thank you, i agree. i would also point out attacks from people above you and the pitching motion of throwing objects, knives, stars, rocks, etc... The Okinawan karate Shuto-ate vs the Shotokan Shuto compared to the aikido and daito-ryu strike. Yes the foot work is different, the angle of the attach is varies across different styles but when you compare they are all closer together than you would think.
I've studied Aikido. It looks so smooth and unreal because they use wrist locks. But this has limited practicality. You can't wristlock a 90 kg man lurching for your head. You can do other techniques but this means killing him, not a good idea either. It's good to know Aikido, it can teach you a lot of stuff, but you also have to adapt and mix it with other arts. I'm training Taekwondo now. Btw around 1:52 he uses his momentum to bring him down and he also unbalances him.
I this is where he breaks downward taking his balance, he would then pivot and then do the wrist throw. I'm not good on the terms. This would be the Kenton into the Kote Gaeshi. In karate you break balance by fainting, colliding or some firm of push pull. Your punch or kick falls into this category. Otherwise you're timing when they step or shift weight. There is a strange point in Aikido as they break your balance. It's like being in the middle of a punch and being pulled sideways. You loose balance, then control and then you get hit/thrown. The same way some of us can stop or feather a punch at the last minute, aikido an stop feather a throw or change the move. What you're not seeing is pressure point at the contact. The movement is to fast to see the evasion. Each pivot is an evasion. The response to the grab should make it harder for the Uke to do the second strike. The moves have the appearance of one strike, one grab, break, throw its over. At the moment he touches he gets defeated. It doesn't matter the size of Uke once the balance is broken. That being said, if Andre The Giant grabs you, you have permission to start shitting. You should always have control... until its taken away from you.
How would you spar an Aikido practitioner?
Nah! A lot of people say Aikido don't work on the street or in real life self defense, because of of that wrisk locks but the knife defense or gun defense is so very effective i think and they had a same defense with knife like in my other martial art called arnis kali eskrima the Filipino martial arts, is not same that they jumps do knife defense but in arnis we do moving not jumping
@@markc.jamila3848 aikido is effective if you modify the moves when you use it on the street.
I used to practice ITF Taekwondo, WTF Taekwondo, Aikikai Aikido, and Kyokushinkai Karate. Some people condemn me for learning Aikido, but I just ignore them and keep on continuing to learn Aikido. Nowadays I am busy and have less time to practice martial arts because I am doing a PhD in Mechatronics Engineering, but I still practice the ITF Taekwondo sometimes. After I have graduated from PhD and free in the future, I will continue practising all ITF Taekwondo, WTF Taekwondo, Aikikai Aikido, and Kyokushinkai Karate again. If I'm free in the future, I would also like to learn other martial arts as well including Kendo, Judo, Uechi-Ryu Karate, Shorin-Ryu Karate, Gojo-Ryu Karate, Shito-Ryu Karate etc.
@@irinahershelle4297 I strongly agree!
@@foxfaisal82 Your interest in martial arts is just amazing! Maybe you should just live in Japan haha
Thanks for reacting to my demo. In Aikido, part of the concept is that you can vary the position of the cursor between flow and efficacy. Because my role in this particular instance was as a representative of the International Aikido Federation, I geared this demo more on flow. You make a very good point about the lack of kicks. Usually, Aikidoka don't really know how to kick efficiently, which was the case here (it also takes a particular kind of ukemi too), so I preferred focusing on standard overhead strikes and grabs. Perhaps we can address some of Aikido's answers to karate kicks and punches in our future collaboration? Thanks again for the video!
That would be awesome! Thanks again for letting me share your martial art to our community!
First of all I thank both of you for sharing what you do. I'm a karate teacher and I've been practicing Aikido for two years while practicing and teaching karate.
Well, I love both. And I strongly think that karate principles can improve an aikidoka technique as well as vice versa.
For example, I improved my ko waza technique applying some aikido principles. And our katas tell a lot about these principles!
Have a nice day!
@@apexino Same here, I picked up kyokushin karate way late in my aikido career but found it to be incredibly relevant. Plus there is that exciting feeling that there is a brand new path to travel on!
I greatly appreciate you contributions and deep respect for the times i've seen video of you taking throws from others. Please comment on the comparison of the Karate Shuto-Ate , the Aikido over head strike and the Gamae-ate strike vs the karate tsuki
Thks for both sensei.
No need for more words.
One of the most "civilized", humble cross-art reaction videos I have ever since. Thank you.
I've learned that in Karate, you don't strike first, so if ever a spar between Karate and Aikido, I think we can just stand there looking at each other for hours, lol.
You don't strike first in a streetfight because if you strike first that is not self defence that will be an offense but a sparring you can strike whenever you want😁😁😁👍👍👍
Sorry for my bad english
@@user-es8xe5bd6u it can be argued that if you strike first in a self-defense situation, that it is not a self-defense. If you felt imminent danger of a threat and your life is in danger , yes you can strike first.
@@canadianhotbod1 "if" you feel danger but if you only strike first because youre showing off your art well it can't be called self defence👍👍👍😁😁😁
@@user-es8xe5bd6u truth.!!
Aikido is a finishing school for martial artists. There is much confusion about the defense, the best way to think of them as symbolic of authentic intent from a real attacker. The art is strong, but must be understood deeply to appreciate.
Aikido is garbage, and a giant waste of time.
Train modern or Goshin Jujitsu and its shows how stupid throwing a person away is just, so they can get up grab a weapon and come at you again..., Train for finish not to have to fight again..
Why is Aikido a giant waste of time? What did you discover about your Aikido training, that made you feel you weren't getting anything out of it? I'm just curious.
@@Psilocybiant I just train Aikido because I love making people do face-plant on the asphalt or hit the wall..
I like the fact that you are genuinely interest in what you watch and always polite. Looking forward to see you collaborate with Erard Sensei.
I noticed that, too. Always respectful.
I trained in aikido when I was a young man (many moons ago) and got to train for a weekend with a very respected sensei name Kenai from Boston and he was in his late seventies or early eighties at the time. He was a very small man and I’m 6’4 275lbs. We were doing kneeling drills and he came up and took my partners place to show me what I was doing wrong and in a flash the man had me on my face on the mat. His technique was incredible.
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I'm just a young weaboo but when I met a master of Aikido, that event change my life. I can't say i'm a experienced fighter using martial art but I did tried to learn useful martial art move. On that one day, my cousin family invited a Japanese monk to their home and I was practicing some martial art move I want to use in case of dangerous situations *( I'm Vietnamese and I worked at a late night restaurant, many mugger is said to be near my workplace so we usually go home in groups then split when we meet main road.) , the Master/Monk saw me using martial art so he asked in Japanese
" Young man, you are doing it wrong " and his pupil/translator translate it into Vietnamse for me.
And he just casually walk at my direction, I knew he gonna do it on me so I got into guard stance to be ready *( I'm a cocky kid so somewhere in my brain actually thinking about throw punch at him ). And he said something like
" Strenght isn't enough to be called strong, but techniques, mental strenght and clear of the mind will make you somewhat stronger than now, allow me to show it to you. "
I threw at punch at him and he just slow but firmly grab my wrist and all i remember is open my eyes and looking at him offering to pick me up.
He stayed for a week so he taught me a lot of things in life and martial art. Sadly he passed away not long ago. RIP Master Kasumi
Hi. Kobudo practitioner here. My background was 6 years in Aikido & Kenjutsu, 3 months in Judo and now exploring Okinawan Karate and Taijutsu. The demonstration you saw there is basically a traditional style of Aikido that isn't really meant for real life situations. However, some of these techniques can be adapted to suit real life situations against street fights, Karate, BJJ or Judo. I am not too sure of some other schools of Aikido but I was exposed to an advanced level Aikido where we can use Aikido waza as an attack instead of just self-defence, and the internet doesn't have much resources on that. If you want an easy victory against an Aikido practitioner, put in a whole bunch of rules and choose practitioners that comes from the most popular schools out there. If you want a challenge, go with no rules, full contact and choose those who come from a very little known school of Aikido.
In regards to your question of "How would you spar an Aikido practitioner?", my answer is: learn his flowing movements and use it against him. This is one of the things that those of us who had studied Aikido long enough was exposed to - the advanced level of using Aiki as an attack and how to counter techniques using the opponent's flow.
I thought it would be risky for non aikido person to fight on the aikido’s field, meaning trying to use their energy. That’s why I try to stay away from that game, and go for a kick. What do you think?
@@KarateDojowaKu Experienced aikidoka can counter kicks. Mae geri and mawashi geri especially. Aikido is relatively an empty hand style of kenjutsu, meaning that they use a lot of ashi sabaki and tai sabaki. If you can land your kicks in their blind spot then you may have a chance of winning. In learning Okinawan Karate I discovered that Karate doesn't cover much footwork so maybe you can start practicing footwork. Even in Aikido we try to avoid direct confrontation so we utilize footwork to get into an opponent's blind spot, hence the reason you're seeing all the circular movements. Or you can also try some baiting techniques typically used in Karate Kumite, that might throw them off.
@@normanhayashi I see! Thank you so much for your insight!!! I will give it a try next time!
@@Jj-gi2uv Hi Jj. I love those stories from Tohei Sensei. My aikido instructor was once his student as well, and he'd pass on Tohei Sensei's stories to us as well, especially that one about WW2. He'll keep centered, and his instincts will immediately tell him to move in a certain direction. And when he does, he realizes that he's led his squad into avoiding another terrible landmine or aerial blast. I honestly like Tohei Sensei's view of Aikido as well as O'sensei's view as well but we can't really stubbornly stick to one art and call it the ultimate art. I have my gratitude towards Aikido opening a bigger path for me towards discovering Kobujutsu, and to be honest if it wasn't Aikido and Tohei Sensei's principle of keeping one point it would've been impossible for me to practice other arts. For example, my first day doing Judo after 6 years of steady Aikido practice was as if I had practiced Judo up to 3rd or 2nd Kyu. Most of the time I was able to tell what my opponent was up to but it wasn't my place to show off so I kinda played it dumb. Anyways, I hope you are well and still practicing Aikido - my Kobujutsu practice still incorporates Aikido and Aikijujutsu elements.
Being able to sense someone's center of mass through touch is not a very crazy idea, and incredibly useful in stand up grappling
In aïkido (in my dojo at least) there is no concept of "opponents", we're just partners working together to do the best technique we can. To me this is a martial art focussing on technique study, not a combat sport. The proof is : there are no competition in aïkido, it's not the purpose of it.
Yes, I agree with that. Sadly a lot of people wouldn't.
as an aikidoka myself, I agree that that's not the purpose.. but I believe that's the FINAL step. before reaching that step, we need to rigorously train our body and mind.
I believe we need balance in our life. I think Aikido is Yin in nature therefore it's considered an internal martial art. if we lack the Yang aspect, our life will be unbalanced. all the great masters ALWAYS have solid, strong, "hard" basic. and after they truly master the Yang side, then they polish the Yin side.
many people looks down on modern Aikido because the majority of Aikidoka only practices the Yin side without going through the Yang side. therefore, their Aikido becomes flimsy and only looks pretty on the outside but doesn't have any volume inside.
I did karate for 11 years, current Aikido 4th dan, Tokyo based professional wrestler also doing catch wrestling and no gi bjj. I can show you a different side to Aikido, nothing flashy just solid waza that works. Happy to do a collaboration.
One thing you should keep in mind is that when the ukemi is grabbing, the entry is the exact same as an O tsuki. There are definitely defense against kicks in aikijitsu. I practice a family system which is composed of different types of martial arts.(Karate, Taekwondo, Aikijujutsu, etc.)
Apart from the forms and traditional ways of doing a technique, aikido also works in terms of principles. If you repeat and repeat and repeat the techniques without understanding why or where it comes from... You won't be doing aikido! You will be just "dancing" as most people say.
Normally people tend to keep what they see, and that's normal, but practicing you will realise that most principles can be applied in other situations.
I realised when I started to practice BJJ, my aikido background (that I still practice and teach regularly), helped me a lot and worked when I tried to apply the same principles!
Really nice video, I didn't know your channel, and now you have a new sub! 😁
PD: You couldn't have chosen a better aikido instructor for the video. Guillaume Erard sensei is top! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
The first principle is that aiki is an art of self defense.
"Aikido kills the attacker at a single blow."
--Morihie Ueshiba OSensei
There are several aikido instructors who do more of a “martial” focus instead of “flow art” focus, the most obvious is Steven Seagal. Check him out for something more akin to a defense art. It varies between teachers, im sure it’s the same in karate. Great review!
I did aikido for like 4 years when I was a kid
Then later i transitioned to boxing
And aikido guys jast cant catch a punch, even those who have good technique
Buut my old sensei came around(she`s a family friend) and i told her that
So she told me to show what i mean
I threw a jab and got emediately kneed to the gut
And then she said - now i can put you in a wrist lock xD
In aikido your movement should always be so smooth and natural like doing a daily simple task for example opening a door or maybe even simply walking
I agree.
In 1970 I had been out of the Army for a year and decided it was time to go back to College and start Karate again as an untrained White Belt. We had 2 groups training at once, beginners and another group of more experienced people. The beginning instructor was a talented Shodan who would usually pull me up for demonstrations in front of the beginners’ group. I didn’t have a good punch, but I was quick and had good timing. Occasionally, I would actually hit him on my attack (My attitude was, “He’s the Black Belt, so he gets my best punch!” LOL. One day I went flying in to hit him and found myself pitching forward, going in a circle and heading for the ground. When I resisted face planting on the floor, he put his hand on my forehead and pitched me backwards in a flip. Being young (23) with good balance, I landed on my feet. He grabbed me again and again I was going in a downward circle heading for the floor, again I was flipped backwards. However, again I landed on my feet. Joe, the instructor, looked at me surprised and just went on explaining his lesson for the group. Four years later I took my first Aikido class. One day we were working on a move and after half an hour I thought, “Hey, this feels familiar!” Later I talked to one of my former teachers, Henry Wilkerson (from before I was in the Army) and asked if Joe knew Aikido. He said, “Yeah, Joe is a Brown Belt in. Aikido.” Here’s my analysis of the difference: in Karate, you usually know what happened to you-you got punched or kicked. In Aikido, if you DON’T KNOW your opponent knows Aikido (and if he can really apply it), you don’t know what in the HELL happened to you!. I’ve tried to explain that explanation of Aikido to Aikidoists, but they don’t usually get it. LOL. Plus, I think there is so much elegance to Aikido and it is almost magic how they can roll with no apparent effort.
Evasion techniques from kicks that aikido practitioners use is called tai sabaki.....these are blending techniques
Hello Karate Dojo WaKu
I've began to watch your videos. Thank you for sharing.
I studied Aikido for 10 months and I still find it very interesting.
My sensei told us that Aikido focus on some elements from Aikijutsu, and that the tecniques we learned was based on old samurai techniques. According to my sensei, the attacker needs to hold on to the hands of the defense, because the defender is actually holding a knife or a samurai sword, and vice versa. You probably know this, since you already been doing an aikido-session.
In aikido, they have this saying: Go with the flow. So the attackers best defense at the end is to accept and to proper ukemi. In reality, the attacker can of course make it very difficult to the defender, and choose not to to the proper ukemi, but it might result in a cut from a tanto or a sword.
I found the practice of aikido very useful to me, working as a bouncer. As you say in the video, I got the feeling of how the aggresive bar-guests moves and in which direction I need to move myself in order to defend myself.
I also see alot of comments if it's effective or not, but I think it's a matter what you are searching for. I will not recommend Aikido to anyone if the focus is to learn how to fight. It all depends on the situation. I "won" a fight with a bar-guest by holding him down by a arm-lock, until the Police arrived and took him with them.
My sensei told me it would take much longer time to make any good use of Aikido in a real situation. He compared 1 year of kickboxing with 5-6 years of Aikido. But at one point, one will get to understand the meaning of the techniques. An experienced Aikidoka with 30 years of practice might be able to defend himself/herself quite well.
Then there is this "dangerous topic" about what is martial art. As a practioner of the martial art Nanbudo for almost 23 years, I actually still don't know the answer for what martial art is. I'm still searching and wants to learn.
Although my sensei was very focused about the spiritual part of Aikido and self-development though Budo and moving-zen, one can discuss if Aikido might focus on other things than beeing very practical.
I don't know if this was very helpful at any point, but I felt for writing to you. As I wrote in the beginning, I've already practiced for 10 months and I humbly would say that I MAYBE understand 5 % of the things my sensei taught me. The same answer that the Aikido-master is Japan told us when we visited Japan in 2007. "I only understand 5% of what O Sensei taught me".
Keep on making more videos!
Domo arigato gozaimashita!
Best regards from Norway
My Taekwondo teacher is also a master of Hapkido. Hapkido and Aikido have a common root in their histories. Hapkido uses a lot of joint locks, and I saw that in this video, too. I believe both styles are descended from Aiki jiujutsu, which was developed to fight samurai in full armor.
Interesting review and reaction. Thank you for posting. Aikido for 10 years now, definitely not Master level. More like promising beginner. Would be fun to work with you in karate.
First thing to remember is the basic movements of Aikido are all based on sword fighting. So the angles, distances, and footwork all come from there. Yes Irimi is a very big part of Aikido. Again from the sword. Only two safe places when you’re dealing with a sword. Far enough away from the blade or in and off the line of the blade. Same is true when someone is throwing punches or kicks. Also remember that Aikido and Judo both come from the same root. Jiujitsu. So while you don’t see much Judo in the kind of demonstration you reviewed all of the chokes, leg sweeps, and other takedowns are there. The ukemi waza is how you learn these things. Once you lose your fear of falling you see the openings for these by default. Aikido is a circular martial art as you mentioned, but that’s also how techniques are revealed. You practice the basics and the Ukemi long enough and all the other things you can’t see now become self evident.
Aikido helped my headspace enormously as a young man. I couldn’t judge Aikido accurately on fighting effectiveness outside of general things like spacing and where I do or don’t want to be in a situation, where I found it to be extremely helpful.
The way I was taught was nearly always defending simulated knife fights. If someone was trying to quickly strike, my aim (it seemed) was nearly always to move to one side or the other - this provoked a response in them, and very quickly “the circle” is being set up. The faster or harder they strike (even if they immediately retreat) the easier it is to understand their inertia and how it can be manipulated - although doing it was often much more difficult.
I have no idea on the quality of the tuition I received or otherwise, as I say, the main thing I took from it was a different understanding in how I approached aspects of my life.
I had some limited martial arts training when I was younger (I'm 59 now), and I must say, I really enjoy what seems to be a new generation of martial arts collaboration. When I was "growing up" in martial arts it was all about what style is better (which I think is a bizarre question). I studied Goju-ryu, then American Kenpo, and finally Aikido (limited study in all three). I enjoyed all three and never saw them as "instead of". In other words I didn't choose each because I thought that it was better or more effective; I saw them as complimenting each other.
Which brings me to the current trend I'm seeing online. I have watched and enjoyed the videos by you, Jesse Enkamp, and a couple of others. You seem to be ambassadors of martial art and enjoy working together and learning from each other. It's a very nice change. Of course each of you, like anybody would, will continue in your own style (and probably for more than one reason), but you don't put down the other styles. To the contrary, you share information and techniques while sometimes exploring some cultural differences that influenced a given art.
Well done.
In aikido there are defences against kicks. However, a general rule in aikido is that for the execution of a technique it is irrelevant whether or not tori is throwing a punch, a kick a knife attack or whatever. So in short, we learn that the type of attack is not really important. The distance on the other hand is. So a grab is short range, a punch is mid range, whereas an attack with a jo (staff) or bokken (woorden sword) is long range. Compare a kick with a jo or bokken attack. If you would like to see defences against kicks, watch Christian Tissier demonstrations (8th dan) Furthermore, there are nog blocs in aikido. We blend with the technique. Finally , you mentioned the concept of prima. The founder of aikido (Morihei Ueshiba) said " Aikido is irimi and atemi". So we combine both a strike (to unbalance tori and keep correct distance) with irimi to blend in with the technique and keep tori unbalanced throughout the entire movement.
As far as I know, Aikido was created for a more non--combative Do / Art. The circle became larger and centrifugal where before was Intrapedal. Wally Jay went the other direction to small circle jujitsu though still bringing uke inward. If you break a Sake bottle into pieces, pickup the spout its still came from the whole bottle.
In Aikido you must welcome their energy but resist it ever so slightly, like water or mud. When Aikido techniques receive attacks, it often resembles shooting a bullet into water. You'll see how the attack's energy gets absorbed by the Akidoka, just liek a bullet shot into water slows down and stops. Only in Aikido the energy is often, then, transmitted back into the attacker. In traditional Aikido this energy is transmitted into the attacker and often towards the ground. This usually ends in a shoulder pin. The idea is to direct all incoming energy to the ground.
One strange thing about aikido, is that you spend so much time falling that you start to understand what temporary weightlessness is like. Just like any other free-fall, such as in skydiving or when an object is orbiting around the earth, in aikido you experience temporary weightlessness often. I found this understanding for gravity and free-fall inspired my understanding of physics and general relativity. I was amaze how practical of a demonstration aikido really is of relativistic principals.
One thing I vividly remember was how fighting a person felt like two planets falling into each other. As though our will to fight was a gravity all it's own. What was incredible was how you would see dynamic behavior, like you might see in high energy physics, play out between two spirited aikidoka.
To me this was Aikido, fighting with the power of attraction.
With the point you made about keeping the arms down in Aikido, generally we've been taught to keep the arms up. That way, if the opponent were to come in with a grasp or strike, you wouldn't have their weight bearing down on you, and you'd be protecting yourself. There are a lot of circular movements in Aikido because you're essentially trying to redirect the energy of the attack, quite often at a tangent. I've recently started to practice Karate, and I've noticed it applies to this as well - I've noticed when blocking, the hand/arm rotates to dissipate the force of the blow - it's the same idea really.
Now react to Aikijujutsu, the original form of Aikido
Nice!
Or skip Aikido and go directly to Aikijutsu. Aikido is great to help improve your flow and defensive footwork but Aikijutsu is much more practical and realistic. Aikido plays to much with the large circle concept. You can use the Aikido blending then reverse the energy and utilize the Karate hip rotation applications. Good video. Thanks for posting!
In the case of a kick, we have tai sabaki on 3 steps for kicks. Related to the circular movements, tai sabaki is when you rotate your body to get out of an attack. On one step is having the front foot bent with the back foot stretched a little, and have the back leg rotate in a half circle movement. On two steps is when you bring the back foot in front then make a half circle with the current back foot. On three steps is to step out side the line of attack with the front foot also having the front arm move diagonally down thus avoiding the kick and then step the back foot in front then move the back leg in semi circle.
I studied shotokan karate for many years before I started studying aikido. I found that karate helped me understand the body mechanics of aikido, and that every movement has a reason, that's when you finally understand the sould of aikido techniques, you don't move innecessarily. I also find that since aikido is a defensive martial art, given a real fighting situation, I would use it for evasive/defensive movements, and I'd use shotokan for attack. I also find that both martial arts have taught me enough to know how to stay away from innecessary confrontations
In my short experience in Aikido, there is no combat/opponents in it. In demostrations or practice, a hand is usually given or is grabbed in my experience, and then a technique is done depending on who the uke or nage is. It was a class worth a unit that I took for a few semesters (I could take the same course multiple times) during college. Getting thrown and having to roll (being the uke) for like 10 minutes continuously gets you pretty exhausted. Your whole body is in motion with the constant up and down movement of your body.
I remember doing free style rounds where someone would grab you or try to grab you and you would have to respond. There might be three students trying to grab you and you just had to avoid or use whatever techniques you can. This is what I think was more realistic in the self defense aspect as you have to gauge your own response to what other people do.
There is also not much resistance in Aikido because of how easily bones can be broken. You don't want to be stiff or try to pull against someone if you are trapped in a wrist lock, you go with it and let them lead you.
Even with your feet too, i remember my Sensei pushing and pulling against feet and legs too. For some of us who came from Karate (there was a karate college class too as well, which I also took), like me, for demonstration purpose, we would kick and sometimes when they actually managed to grab the foot or leg, they would manipulate it like a wrist, locking the ankle and knock the kicker over.
Aikido for me definitely supplemented my martial arts knowledge along with BJJ and TKD all thanks to my college. Karate is my main style. Learning how to fall and distribute energy was such a useful thing to learn as it's definitely one of the best ways to protect yourself. It's where I learned how to roll properly.
Someone asked me about Aikido and what it is to me.
Aikido is like a choreographed tango between the two practitioners. Nonverbal communication between tori and uke, in deep concentration, orchestrating each other's submission.
Every move is a reflection of one state of mind. Aikido is the acceptance of what is going to happen. To let the aggressor know that there are other ways than violence. To subdue your opponent without causing more harm to yourself and your aggressor.
There are no competitions other than the one with yourself. There are other forms of Aikido for example Tomiki aikido, Takemuso, Iwama, Ki-Aikido (to name a few) en the one I am practicing is Aikikai.
Kind regard.
Ha Mirii
Thanks so much for sharing! "Aikido is the acceptance of what is going to happen" I think this says it all.
Aikido is the way of getting your ass kicked 👍
@@SaikouKarate 😂😂🤣LOL
@@SaikouKarate Can't argue with that. Just ask Gene LeBell or Steve Seagal...though Stevie might lie. I do like their wrist locking techniques I have to be honest.
@@barrettokarate Yes, perfect against sleeping enemies.
Aikido can be described as the dynamic sphere. Every time it is in circular movement and uses the mommentum of the opponents against them.
the throw are amplified by the attacker. in aikido or hapkido, the practitionner who attack will throw himself once in a lock to avoid the break. normally like in hapkido once you attack and the other is blocking and gonna have a lock on your arm or hand etc etc then you jumps to liberate yourself of the lock. normally the attack is not finished until you cannot undo the lock
I have a black belt in Aikido and it was the perfect art for me. I have studied Karate and Judo, but love Aikido.
May have been mentioned already, but would love to see your reaction to Hapkido
Yes Mister Yusuke. Aikido does have plenty of techniques against kicks, all kind of kicks, and yes, following the principles of round movements and using uke energy against hi or her, circular movements and other movements too. This techniques are for advanced degrees, once you "master" certain movements of your body.
Would like to see aikido versus MMA or must thai
Historically Aikido was never meant to be a stand-alone art. From my understanding black belts of already established martial arts were the only people who are accepted into Aikido. So in my opinion Aikido is designed as a supplemental art.
To answer the question it would fail in all regards. It would be dependent on the individual and how willing he is to learn striking and grappling with Aikido
Might want to check this video out: th-cam.com/video/0KUXTC8g_pk/w-d-xo.html
This guy gave up doing Aikido and starting training MMA instead after realizing he couldn't hold his own in sparring.
@@thebeardedbear565 supplemental art, yes that makes sense
@@Silamoth This is a very interesting channel!
@@Silamoth u mix them not just drop a style for a diffrent style u just adapt I haven't lost any fights yet and akidio has been usefull in the street multiple times saved my ass and at times just simply stoped the fight cause they couldn't do nothing without there arm breaking
Actually I've been doing akidio for about 12 yrs it wasn't my first style but it definitly stuck with me and if u change it based on the situation it works well on the streets and combat sports the akidio arm lock will make an enemy break there own arm tryna break out the reason the people go with the movements and don t resist is defence if u resist ur arm breaks from the wrist to the shoulder so resistance is futile best bet is go with the movements to keep urself safe here they teach u the form and how to roll so if someone else trys that on u it won't work ud be surprised how usefull this style can be if used correctly also my sensai d idnt teach me in this pretty way he taught me to use in real life speed against real life fighting moves like jabs straight hooks kicks knees elbows and headbuts cause some people do get desperate but these guys could actually hold there own in a grappling match but in. A real fight u must train ur style for real life situations and movements so the answer is this a usefull style it's extremely usefull for what ur useing it for if u train it for that situation if it's the street make it less choreographed if combat sports make it more aggressive and make sure ur striking is just as good as ur akidio but for katas all u need is a good partner and some mats for form practice but those are just my opinions I like the style personally and I do appreciate u giving respect to all these styles regardless if there combat sports or just basic Kata I see ur wise beyond your years and I have a high respect for you and your karate as well honestly I never got all that good at karate so honestly I'd trust u to teach me u seem to know ur stuff very well keep up the vidios
Thanks sooooo much for sharing your knowledge! I will keep on posting videos, so please look forward to them!
@@KarateDojowaKu thank you for the reply and vidios keep it rocking man ur awesome
One point worth bringing up about the grips is that (I can only speak for Iwama Ryu, the teachings of Morihiro Saito Sensei) normally you would begin in Shomen Uchi (a strike like a sword from above) carried out by tori/nage and uke would defend by raising his arm like a sword and then to prevent the aikidoka from performing any technique he would push down the hand and grab. Then tori/nage would perform a technique from there. However it took much time to do this in every technique so Saito started to teach from a direct grab. That is why aikidokas often keep their hands low. Because we are skipping the step of the shomen uchi. (This is a generalisation and holds true for at least morote dori, ai hanmi katate dori and ushiro waza).
Regarding techniques against kicks, they are normally not performed in most schools (partly because it wasn't traditionally but also because it is very hard). Aikido is very much about keeping your balance which is why we always keep contact with the ground so kicking would go against this. A possible defence against a front kick could be an ikkyu performed to the leg which is sometimes used, but often it can be better to just avoid it and then perform shomen uchi to prevent uke from raising his leg again.
Generally when someone attacks with a kick to a Aikido, the end result is usually a face-plant. So in other words, kicks are just like punches, just a different part of the body.
Greeting from indonesia sensei. Im 2nd dan in tkd n also brown belt in aikido. In aikido we call " hv eye in our hand" so if u grabbed in any direction, u knew what to do. Respect sensei. Onegeshimasu
respect to you too!
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With the comment regarding irimi - Aikido techniques often have 2 polarities of movements - these are usually irimi and tenkan, or uchi and soto. In irimi we enter into the space in front of our opponent and turn them into a non-confrontational position. In tenkan we instead enter the space behind our opponent to get into a non-confrontational position ourselves. As I posted a couple of months back, I've recently started to practice Karate alongside Aikido, and I'm interested in merging the 2 together to see how they can complement each other! 🙂
I would love to watch you participating in a judo class, including some randori/sparring
Judo seems interesting as well! In Japan, we must take Judo lessons during middle and high school so I have learned the basic already :)
@@KarateDojowaKu that sounds even better, as usually beginners learn to break their fall and some basic foot sweeps and reaps. hopefully you can do some hip throws and submissions :)
I am 65 and have practiced Aikido for more or less 15 years, I would say I am a good beginner and realized that to attain master level I should have started a lot earlier. Aikido has defenses againt all types of kicks I have seen Japanese senseis apply them very succesfully. I also believe that to apply it on the street fights (not my objective) you have to train for real street situation, which for most Dojos does not seem to be the case.
Thank you Sensei for featuring Aikido in your vlog, I am an Aikido practitioner myself and a 2 or 3 mins. demonstration is not enough to describe how effective is Aikido as a martial art. You must understand the techniques how to use it effectively. In our dojo starting from 1st KYU promotion until you become a shodan you have to get through on all sort of attacks (kicks, boxing, grapling, stick and knife). Its not that you will just perform the techniques but you have to defend yourself using Aikido techniques. for me I am confident to say that Aikido is effective. Again thank you Sensei for featuring Aikido.
Just to tell you some basics to understand aikido. The two akido principles according to O Sensei Morihei Ueshiba are Irimi and Atemi. Irimi is to enter in the attack of uke/aite. Atemi is very important, even if nowadays we mostly use it to distract uke/aite to help to break is balance, in the old days atemis were prominents for tori to start and finish a movement (example on Ikkyo : an atemi in the ribs, then irimi and the ikkyo technique, and an atemi to finish uke), since aikido comes from the daito ruy aiki ju jutsu school, because Morihei Ueshiba was a student of Sokaku Takeda, the great master of that school. As a consequence, aikido shares a lot of techniques and principles with this school. A difficult thing to master in aikido is to be able to simutaneously deflect an attack/protect ourself from an attack AND at the SAME time doing a counter irimi attack
Another thing you should watch closely is the kamae (guard) and how aikidokas manage distances between uke and tori. it is different from karate but you will understand it quickly (as a former judo practionner I was lost at first).
Another very important principle is that in aikido we use what uke/aite is giving to break his balance by connecting with him and absorbing or entering in his attack. This concepts exists in advanced judo katas as well such as kime no kata, goshin jutsu (designed in the 1950s long after Jigoro Kano's death, by a team of judo great senseis, among them Kenji Tomiki who was a student both of Jigoro Kano and Morihei Ueshiba, and a master of the two arts, that is why this kata contains iconic aikido techniques such as kote gaeshi), koshiki no kata (as a former judoka I understand these kata better with aikido).
As for the grabs their origin is that the technics you see were designed to counter an attack on the battlefield, when someone grabbing you to prevent you drawing your sword or tento, that is why these grabs still exists. If you practice Iaido you will recognize some mouvements that are exactly the same, since lot of aikido techniques come from sword movements. That is why in aikido we have a lot of exercices using a bokken to do properly a mouvement. There are katas and exercices with a jo even if we grab the jo like a baïonet since Morihei Ueshiba was a jukken instructor in the japanese army during the war with Russia in the beginning of the 20 th century. There are moved with the jo you will recognize as a karate instructor such as tsukki.
We use also a lot of counters against atemis given by uke/aite (yokomen ushi, shomen ushi, jodan tsukki, shodan tsukki we even use them with the jo), we practise as kind of katas that is why you see these beautiful mouvements, but the ideas is to give you the sense of direction of attacks, from where they are coming and where they go, to counter them efficiently.
There are some rare sutemis in aikido to counter an attack after a first failed technic for example.
As for the ukemis, there are a bit differents from judo ukemis. Since the purpose is not the same for uke. In some techniques like kote gaeshi and juji garami which are not throws but ways to break your wrist or your arm and they only way to avoid this is to do specific ukemis. Or in other technics like koshi nage the goal is to absord the fall, but in a different way as in judo, to be right up back to attack again.
There are randoris exercices with a single tori and 2 or 3 or even 4 ukes attacking one after one other with stereotyped attacks or grabs (yokomen ushi, shomen ushi, ryote katate dori) and tori's goal is to escaped, and be a movable and unreachable target by keeping the opponants in line and throw them or control them.
the three main ways to move in aikido are irimi, tenkan and tai sabaki. irimi to do an omote technique (direct entrance), tenkan to do an ura technique (let uke pass and use his strengh).
We have exercices in handashi waza (sitting in seiza, moving doing shikkos which i still suffer doing) (on the knees for non japanese speakers), or hanmi handachi waza (tori sitting, uke/aite standing). we can do it with the bokken or jo too it is difficult.
These last ways are very linked to japanese culture, specially in the Eido period, since people where sitting a lot and a protocole and etiquette were developped around this. The buke, samurais were often hired by the lords to garanty security in official meetings were weapons were officially not allowed (like the guys doing security in night clubs), and since samourai were forbidden to spill blood in official venues they developped all the technics to control an opponent that are used in aikido, and learned how to do these technics on their knees against a sitting or standing opponent. It is just to explain the origin since a lot of non japanese will not understand why in aikido we do technics sitting like this.
Thanks for reading and take care.
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HI, I am an Aikido - Aikijutsu practitioner , and From My experience Aikido is more for Show, but Aikijutsu beeng the base of Aikido is more Agressive and can be use in sparring.
In aikido, the ground is your foe, so you train against the ground and if a person challenges you you show them the ground. Or, if they're more aiki than you, they show you the ground.
I have trained both Aikido (Iwama-ryu) and Karate (Kyokushin).
Started with Aikido to later practice Karate.
During a Bunkai of Kake uke, I realized that this was something very similar to what I learned in Aikido.
Hi. I practiced aikido for 10 years total. It's true we don't practice techniques against kicks much, and I think there are no such techniques in the canon, but when you're a bit more advanced and grasp the concepts behind aikido techniques, you can naturally extend how you react to punches to how would you react to kicks. Some of my trainings involved defense against kicks: For mae-geri I move to the outside, block or control the kick with one hand, and just after the kick I try to quickly move forward and do iriminage (a head or should grab and throw). For mawashi-geri I move to the inside to slow the impact, try to catch the kick, and then move forward and push my patner back or swipe his other leg (or move vey close, grab the gi, and throw the partner down, while controlling the fall).
You can also take a look at this karate/aikido demonstration:
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Here, Christian Tissier, the aikido practitioner, mostly blocks and avoid the kicks and waits for better opportunity.
If you combine these aikido techniques with any martial art, it is extremely effective. All it takes is for you to stun someone with a strike(s) and in that moment, execute any of those movements. Either comply or have your joint(s) broken. Then repeat, if necessary.
I totally agree!
the touching of the hand is a training concept. In the real world an attacker will not reach and touch necessarily. we are taught to blend with the attackers energy.
I'm impressed that you are a sensei Did you get your black belt when you were 10 years old? And decided to make TH-cam videos
If u kick in aikido , they just get ur balance ,it's lot of safer on punching,
Thx that you make a Video over Aikido
It's good to see that you going down different paths and exploring the truth is you are your skill you make it it doesn't make you and only the truth in any system to protect and defend oneself fight in a rotated state show no mercy and go for the elimination and overall be simply be the best
Your absolutely right when you point the attacks are incorrect. It is not a big part of training for many aikido practicioner. But about receiving the attack , it is an absorbtion. Look at the work of Kuroda Tetsuzan. Even taught it is not considered as aikido, it is based on the same principles.
In Aikido we use body balance so break the balance of the partener without using power.
Circular movement is a good way to move without using power because of 遠心力。
When you look from far aikido looks slow but because of that circular movement the partner feel speed
At the begining when you start aikido yot start technics by grab because it's easier and slower, good to understand.
when you get level you work more on punch and kiks too.
when some one attaks you you always have a touch point so it's the same that grab.
In other martial arts when some one attacks you almost block or escape the attack but in Aikido we use the concept of irimi to break the attak or we absorb the attack to use it.
If you want let's talk about it! (^_-)
Some very successful MMA fighters use a strategy for takedown defense that is very similar to the principles that Aikido suggests (however faulty), such as allowing a wrestler to grab the lead leg as bait for an advantageous scramble. José Aldo is a fighter who presents a perfect example of that principle in action.
I am definitely not defending Aikido, as I consider it fairly low as a useful in a real world application.
Not only kicks, anything you'll throw at them would be effective since Aikidokas dont do sparring and therefore won't be prepared for anything at real speed.
If they can grab you then I guess a very strong, high level practitioner ( even if he doesn't do much sparring) like Mr. Erard could throw you on the math - with a certain ease? - unless you have a good judo/wrestling base.
You think you could be effective against Mas Oyama?
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@@aikibaby lol, at calling up Oyama to make a comparison, only in the interwebs.
Anyway, my comment was aimed at a sparring between Mr. Erard and the owner of this channel. Now, do I believe some of the strong, old masters of Aikido could be somehow competitive in a grappling match (grips entangled, which was my original premise) against Oyama? I sure do.
We don’t do sparring in Aikido and that’s why the art is very hard to understand as a first martial art. The same concept and importance of power generated from the Centre is universal, aikido utilizes it differently. It’s like the game stealing the “opponent’s flag” ; we maintain our balance through footwork while entering to steal the uke’s balance/Centre adding our Centre to theirs and executing the technique/throw. That’s why the concept of flowing water is fundamental. It’s really not the easiest thing to learn and many of us are far from understanding and living it.
Sensei,next time is your react of Okinawan Karate training
I’ve done some already! Please check from the playlist!
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I practiced Aikido before, but this is just my personal opinion. Aikido just teach and pretend principal movement and no sparing competition. So it's just body conditioning. But in the other side, we can freely develop the principal of Aikido movement, power, and intention to another martial arts technique. So, once again, (this is my personal opinion) Aikido must mix with other martial art technique to be used in practical situation.
Aikido will make your consumption energy more efficient because of breathing and flow movement technique.
I'm very happy to hear your suggestion and feedback.
If you're using kicks against aikido, be aware that some practitioners are good at catching your leg and applying an ankle lock. So make sure the kicks aren't telegraphed and have good snap, I ashi-barai could also be a good option.
May I recommend people taking a look at tomoki Aikido it is not very common and is a sport version of Aikido to offer a different perspective.
Many Aikidoka look down on this version.
Never heard of it before! Let me check it out
@@KarateDojowaKu Tomikik ryu.
Great review! You should check out Yasunori Konishi Sensei. He was a karate legend who was also a student of Ueshiba, Morihei. I think that he came up with some katas specifically to show and get the approval of Ueshiba.
Another teacher to check out is Nishio, Shoji who was also a Karateka and a Judoka before he got into Aikido. His movements are very interesting.
Regarding kicks, a proper Aikidoka should treat it as if it is a sword attack since Aikido and Japanese swordsmanship are actually one and the same. Proper distance is also important. If you are in Japan, I am sure that you will find a lot of great teachers that you can maybe interview and exchange ideas with.
Keep up the great work!
I had practiced Aikido for 15 years. I think people look at nage (someone performing the defensive move) as the one who is at the center of Aikido. But that's not true at all. Uke's (someone performing the offensive move) technique is vital. Not only do they need to give good practice to nage, but also they must know how to protect themselves from injury.
More times in my life, knowing how to fall, how to relax, how to 'take punishment' smoothly, done more good. While it is certainly important to understand the defensive position, a well trained Uke is the greatest part of any dojo training.
If you were to spar someone who knew aikido and you were going to try to use kicks against them they would use evasion techniques. It's hard to spar using aikido because if your opponent doesn't go along with the flow he or she could end up severely injured. I've practiced aikido but it was taught to me very untraditionally, While I was learning it I was also taught the art of aiki-jujitsu which is the style I tend to lean more into. Aiki-jujitsu is the parent art of jujitsu and aikido I also believe that it is more combative for the streets. I have a friend who trained with me who would beg to differ ( he leans towards aikido he also is looking to take shotokan) but these are my own opinions. I was always told that aiki-jujitsu was 90% percent atemi's (strikes) and 10%percent technique this is how it taught to me. Both styles are closely related.
As a former Aikido practitioner now a karateka/muay thai practitioner It is very much the opposite from karate as it is not exactly a fighting art but more of a defensive art since we are using the attackers energy. It's not designed for dealing with other trained fighters but rather more of a way of life to lead...a philosophy of "balance" which is culturally japanese.
I would probably describe Aikido as the psychology of martial arts as it targets to reframe people's mindsets and behaviours from the need to fight but to go with whatever flow is presented. Unlike Karate of where it is designed to fight. Also on your question on why aikidokas keep their hands low it's because they showing how to bait the attacker to attack which is a similar tactic in kumite and other striking arts.
To the Question of how to spar an Aikido Fighter, first needs an introduction of Aikido.
Aikido is a fighting system that doesnt exclude Kickboxings techniques, or Judo or Wrestling techniques but extends them to the notion of using the enemy energy for you.
To take advantague of enemys moves you must do a "stimulation" against enemy equilibrium. The stimulation can be a push or pull. You must take in count 2 facts, the X made by the four extremitys, legs and arms plus the head, and that there is a sideways h that controls gravity center that are two straight lines one in the hip and other between shoulders united by another straight line that passes through gravity center and umbilicus. Having these in count when you pull or push an extemity you make the enemy react: by opposing to the movement or following the movement, then you take in count waht is happening to the gravity center "h" schemma and choose again where to stimulate the enemy equilibrium and response to take him out of equilibrium and make it fall or crush a hit or hit the phisical enviorement arround the fight, using your body and extremitys for this as obstacles and maybe twisting the enemy extremity in their articulation, what needs an aclaration too, under a twist it doesnt mean the enemy will be thrown flying by you, it will follow the twist or oppsose it with its strenght and pain resistance, where you must decide what to do again, if it resist you can dislocate its articulation paying attention to its counterattacks, or maybe if it follows the twist you can pull or push in that direction to make it loose its equilibrium, including puting your body and extremitys as obstacle.
I think it is only left to say that, for example, in water combat, rules changue cause you dont have the desequilibrium factor, but asfixias or potentiating enemy movement in a direction and using hits in the opposite direction or dislocating articulations are still efective technqiues that you learn better than in styles of kicks and box or wrestlings.
Aikido is like a cience, but to apply it is really difficult, cause it needs to evaluate biophisical movements desitions in sparring timing, and that needs a lot of training.
To how to Spar an Aikido Master? To avoid entering its Guard and avoid getting your exremitys grabs, like a cat fighting a Dog, you must enter and get out, like when you practice senkutsu from ankutsu oi-tsuki and get back to an-kutsu guard, or the same with geris, cause if you enter its guard, he will use Aikido to take advantague of your answers to its pulls, pushs and twists, and also if you let yourselve beign grabbed.
The cycle of an Aiko Ippon is: Aikido: Stimullate by grabing push, pulling, maybe adding articulations torsion. Foe: Biophisical Answer, follow the stimul or oppose. Aikido: Solution, After Biophisical Evaluation of the Answer you must choose the Ipon, hitting or obsaculating with body or extremitys foe response, or pushing or pulling to make enemy fall or hit the phisical items in the fight scenario, or submition moves as blood or air afixias or submitons positions.
To these Stimullo, Answer, Solution schemma only needs to add that in answer to be solved there must be added the parallel answers, like when instead of following or oposing to pulls or push, the adversary makes a sidestep, or loose the grabs with a free arm, or trys to hit the Aikido participant.
I think Wado Ryu Karate has a lot of similarities with Aikido, because there are some Jujutsu techniques in Wado Ryu, and Aikido descends from Daitō-Ryū Aikijūjutsu; this martial art derives from an ancient combat system called Bujutsu which includes also Jujutsu. You are more informed than me. In AIkido there are a lot of techniques that are used to block the kick or lift the leg to throw the opponent, but Karateka are very fast, you can cover long distances with long leg movements, your punches are quick and sudden.
I'd recommend against attempting to kick a skilled aikidoka.
To an aikidoka. the ground is where your power comes from. So giving up your connection to the ground for a kick is often what an aikidoka wants from you, the attacker
In my school, only very skilled aikidoka could train techniques vs kicks, because to train said techniques you have to also receive it and it very difficult to perform ukemi vs a throw performed against a kick.
In a nutshell, Aikido techniques vs kicks come out faster and drop the kicker to the ground harder. This is all because the kicker sacrifices more of their balance to even attempt the kick.
The main three skills you go for in aikido are speed, balance and timing.
So if you want to counter an aikidoka you must be faster, more balanced and have better timing.
What you do not need is more power. To get more power you need to sacrifice one of those three things and sacrificing any of them, often gives the advantage to the aikidoka.
If you really want to clobber an aikidoka, use feints to mess with their timing and use strikes to their legs to weaken their posture. Try to sacrifice as little of your stability as possible when you chose to act and expect to have to counter their inevitable counter.
I suppose low kicks are fine if used properly.
There is a quick low-kick that comes out like a step that comes to mind, that would be very effective against aikdoka. It strikes at the shins or even ankles but ends as a step. So you don't really sacrifice any of your balance for it. The kick I'm thinking of is almost like a stop but it comes out at a slight angle and thus doesn't hit the ground like a stomp would. However it would crush an ankle if an ankle was where you were stepping/kicking.
I remember hearing that every kick is a step.
So against a skilled aikidoka, I would just say, keep your kicks more step like than kick like.
To spar with, low kicks and jabs. In and out. Would be interesting to see how Muay Thai or Karate spar with Aikido, BJJ too. Aikido has very deep principles and philosophy. It can take many years to transcend them and be actually effective. Their purpose is different from many combat sports, self fefense or even some more hardcore martial arts as Muay Thai, Boran or Kuyokushinkai.
As a blue belt in shito-ryu i remember sparring a 2nd dan from aikido, he kept a long arm trying to grab my front hand from fighting stance but never succeeded, instead i remeber using kake-uke (forgive me if spelling incorrect) to seize the wrist of the arm he kept trying to seize me with and using his body for counter-balance plowed some decent round kicks into his ribs using ball of foot rather than instep for added effect. Ive realised in retrospect this would have appeared overly aggressive to him, existing in an art that seems to be built around showing unrealistic levels of kindness to your training partners, but ultimately if he cannot defend, its simply uneffective! None the least of which from a blue belt 3yrs into the art vs his decade long career. Either way we bow and show due control and due respect.. even if a little rough around the edges
I want to comment on your opinion about the hands down they did before any kata. Do you watch Adam Chan regarding Bruce Lee saying that martial art without sparring is like dry land swimming? But then he adds that sparring is like swimming in a bathtub. His point is, sparring is a good exercise but can't substitute drill. Drills indeed don't train you to fight but it's one of the best option for reality scenario. In reality, there's no sparring. Ppl don't pose and ppl don't fight. The one that will help you is your awareness and your natural reaction. Sparring trains many aspects in martial art like structure, mobility, strength, etc. But kata or form train your natural reaction. Sparring train your martial art intellectually, kata or form train your unconscious mind to make the technique natural. This's why mma fighter still get owned in ambush situation because they don't have time to react intellectually and this's why martial art that only train kata or form can't fight because fighting by itself is an intellectual process.
A LITTLE CORRECTION YOU SAY THERE IS ALWAYS A CIRCLE BEFORE PUSHING THE OPPONENT TO THE GROUND. THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY CIRCLE AND THE CONTINUOUS CIRCLE CHANGING DIRECTIONS IS WHAT THROWS THE OPPONENT.
Regarding the flow, one must make a distinction - in one hand you have the Tokyo (Aikikai) style of practicing - flowing soft movements from day one. On the other hand of the spectrum, you have Iwama and Yoshinkan, in which you have a control, stance and centerlized enphasis from the start (it tends to be a bit harder style of practicing, but I find it pays off latter on) - the flow comes latter.
Similar to what you have in Karate, there are also several styles and aproaches in Aikido.
Aikido is a great addition to any martial art
Check out Hapkido, a Korean martial art based on Aiki Jujutsu, the same martial art Aikido is based on. It looks like a mix between Tae Kwon Do and Aikido.
The background,why they touch the hand is,they want control the swordhand,Aikido is adaptet, by old sword techniks
His ude gatame is flawless. Excellent video Nagano Sensei.
The problem with many aikido practitioners is the lack of genuine attacks, pressure testing and practical applications.
Hello,
First: I like your videos.
Second: I respond to your question about kick deffense in Aikido. There are ways how in Aikido kicks are managed. For example:
Mai geri is blocked with Gedan barai, either on the in side or the outside of the opponent, connected with an step in (irimi) and a strike to the face with the free hand (atemi), to get in range for grabs and throws.
Mawashi geri defense, mostly is teached to step in the opponents mai ai, with arms forward blocking the kick then folow to a grab or throw.
Ura mawashi geri an Aikidoka is teached to move behind the kickers back and then grab the opponent and pull him to the ground in the direction of the kick.
The thing to manage kicks, the Aikido way is to shorten the distance so that the kick can not generate its full power, which is not an easy task to do facing a real good kick.
Kick defense is not teached very often in comparison to other types of attacks like the grabs you saw in the video or punches.
For one it's dangerous to go againts a kick for students ,who in their entire life did not face a real kick or any other discipline than Aikido.
To learn proper defence in Aikido againts kicks, you need first a partner (uke) who knows how to kick the proper way. Not all practicioners of aikido are kickers.
You need good timing to enter into a kick therefore it's teached mostly in advanced classes.
I send You some links to a Aikido kick defence demos which I personaly like.
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keep up the good work!
Thanks as always!
Nagano sensei, I think you are correct in noticing that kicks are not common in Aikido. Atemi in Aikido training seems direct and relatively simple compared to Karate, White Crane kung fu, and even kumite taught in Dan Zan Ryu jujitsu. Most attacks often are simple atemi or strikes based upon katana or jo like yokomen or shomen strikes. That being said, Aikido still has a beauty that is unique, and it has its place in the martial arts because who can categorically state that one martial art has superiority over another. On the other hand, someone practicing a predominantly percussive art like Karate and participating in juiwaza/randori with an Aikidoka may strike too fast for the Aikidoka to connect. In my opinion, you would have to find a very accomplished Aikidoka to have a meaningful freestyle bout. Timing probably would be crucial for the Aikidoka. One other thing, in my experience, American Aikidoka are not used to being hit and do not condition their hands. Japanese Aikidoka may be different because some train and take high falls (ukemi/ustemi) on hard wooden floors. All of this, of course, is my opinion based upon my training, and others are free to disagree with my views.
Nice video! I think it would be interesting to see your reaction to judo or jujutsu as well. 🥋🥋🥋
I'll check it out! Thanks!
There are blocks for kicks. Front kick and roundhouse kicks.
I practice karate shotokan and had a aikido dojo.
They are complementary.
In aikido uke is very important and learn to protect his body for injuries. And the best protection is a good ukemi.
Some demonstrations are slow for the audience. And seems that is a combination. Try to break the connection with your opponent, you receive a powerful atemi.
Thanks for respect the others martial arts.
Appreciate this video and your open look at Aikido from the Karate mind. I’m an Aikidoist of about 10 years and can easily tell you that you would be very successful in winning a match unless you were paired against someone who was skilled in other arts. Aikido can be effective against the drunk guy in a bar or a scrap with someone who isn’t a skilled fighter but against a trained fighter? No way. Not even close.
People like to make fun of the art saying it’s bullshido or whatever and they are missing the point. It’s a philosophy and spiritual practice that manifests physically in a framework that looks much like Japan’s older battlefield arts, like aikijujitsu and daito ryu.. both of which historically were brutal -when times were very different.
I think Karate (while more effective than aikido) by itself would also get smashed by an mma guy. These fighters are BRUTAL. This is a very different philosophy than BUDO. You really can’t compare them.
Enjoy exploring the layers of Aikido and why we do some things that don’t make sense. There is usually a damn good reason or someone is teaching poorly.
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I'm the opening of the video, you mention Aikido moving like water and that's true, but it's more like moving like breath
I have not experienced much kicks in aikido. I have practiced against maegeri but that's all. Though there are different techniques I have practiced with it. I don't know how other kicks would work with aikido but I think you could use same ideas with other kicks too.
The context that is often overlooked with Aikido is that the techniques originate from disarming or retaining weapons. It doesn't make sense to let someone grab your hand unless you have a weapon in your possession and someone is trying to take it away from you or someone is attacking you with a weapon and you need to disarm them. That's why you don't often see aikido practitioners kick or punch; there are better arts for that. Aikido doesn't make sense (in how it's traditionally practiced) in an unarm situation, the timing and rhythm of someone with or without weapons is vastly different.
You should watch videos regarding Chiba Sensei, Osawa Shihan Sensei, Donovan Shihan Sensei and old Waka Sensei videos... I believe they are amongst the best aikidokas
Great video and very respectfully as well.
I would love if you watch the compilation of taekwondo knockouts.
That’s a good idea too!
I think you should take a look at Martial Arts Journey channel. He was an Aikidoka for 15 years and left the practice.
Aikido is interesting. In some ways it has some similarities with the Jujutsu side of Wado Ryu. It has a lot of motions inspired by the sword as does karate which causes some overlaps as well some opportunities for cross pollination.
I know Aikido is different from Judo, but is Aikido the soft movement of Judo? I mean they throw the opponents to the ground, the difference is one looks soft, the other is hard
Judo has a smaller tighter circle than Aikido. Judo appears to spike on the throws. Aikido students quit often try to throw themselves while blending. Aikido tends to open uke's position in the outcome.
I just want to say one thing, that all of the top instructors train both Aikido and Judo. When you look at the dojos in Japan, the same people in the Karate class are often student from the other classes.
@karate guy also, the defense against yomen uchi looks ridiculous until someone tries to smash a bottle on your head, but unless you are constantly fighting people who smash things in your head its not pretty practical either
@karate guy O sensei studied more than one art. ...But to see my point look at Tomiki-ryu aikido from the Kodokan (a judo school) vs the regular Aikido taught in the Aiki dojos. The Kodokan school also taught Karate (-do) ....try Satoh sensei in Tomiki and look at the background of Nishio sensei
@@gingercore69 thank you, i agree. i would also point out attacks from people above you and the pitching motion of throwing objects, knives, stars, rocks, etc...
The Okinawan karate Shuto-ate vs the Shotokan Shuto compared to the aikido and daito-ryu strike. Yes the foot work is different, the angle of the attach is varies across different styles but when you compare they are all closer together than you would think.
I've studied Aikido. It looks so smooth and unreal because they use wrist locks. But this has limited practicality. You can't wristlock a 90 kg man lurching for your head. You can do other techniques but this means killing him, not a good idea either. It's good to know Aikido, it can teach you a lot of stuff, but you also have to adapt and mix it with other arts. I'm training Taekwondo now. Btw around 1:52 he uses his momentum to bring him down and he also unbalances him.
I this is where he breaks downward taking his balance, he would then pivot and then do the wrist throw. I'm not good on the terms. This would be the Kenton into the Kote Gaeshi. In karate you break balance by fainting, colliding or some firm of push pull. Your punch or kick falls into this category. Otherwise you're timing when they step or shift weight. There is a strange point in Aikido as they break your balance. It's like being in the middle of a punch and being pulled sideways. You loose balance, then control and then you get hit/thrown. The same way some of us can stop or feather a punch at the last minute, aikido an stop feather a throw or change the move.
What you're not seeing is pressure point at the contact. The movement is to fast to see the evasion. Each pivot is an evasion. The response to the grab should make it harder for the Uke to do the second strike. The moves have the appearance of one strike, one grab, break, throw its over. At the moment he touches he gets defeated. It doesn't matter the size of Uke once the balance is broken. That being said, if Andre The Giant grabs you, you have permission to start shitting.
You should always have control... until its taken away from you.