The ring retainer is removed by rotating it anti-clockwise just until the thinner tail is level with the ramped inner edge, as you rotate the ring clockwise ease the tail up the ramp as it turns, eventually the whole ring rotates up the ramp releasing the core.
Nicely done. I was also dissapointed when I finally bought a disc detainer pick and found out my Kryptonite Evolution was easy to open. No false gates either and the ability to tension the core from the front disc both seem like issues they should have taken care of. I have heard some of their newer generation locks have better anti-pick features but I haven't managed to play with any of them yet.
Impressive analyssis! However, I would love to see if an updated version (2023) of this same lock has design improvements. Does Kryptonite actually improve and refine original designs or just put out new models?
When you got the core out of the lock, I think it would have been cool to have put the key in and turned it, to show us the back of the lock turning. Maybe that would also have revealed some partially hidden way to disassemble the core. Like maybe you turn the lock 30 times to unscrew it or something.
Your a gifted picker so not much gives you a lot of trouble! Plastic in that lock is a bad sign and with that knowledge I wouldn't perches one believing it to be a cheap shortcut . Keep the vids coming....
cerebellum yeah good point, its probably me, I'm never keen on plastic as at some point it Will degrade, however it would probably be replaced by a better cheaper lock in it's working life time..
Max Paws “this lock is unpickable Mr Lawyer. Not because of its pinning or precision, but because of its divine enchantment. Even the greatest locksmith in the realm could not- what are you doing” LPL (after setting up camera): “Hello, this is the LockPickingLawyer. Today we have a very interesting lock. Unfortunately, however, we will be putting it up against the Ramset”
Hmmm. Mine is built a little different. I wrote kryptonite a fb msssage after discovering the plastic plug. I think it leaves it vunerable to heat attacks. If the plastic can be softened in mine at least the core can be turned with. Tool or even a non working key. I still think its good lock. I was actually pretty impressed at hos long you took to pick it. I really think they should go to an aluminum or brass plug.
Yep see theres no steel restraining the core from turning if the plastic is compromised with heat.like there is in the larger new york lock. Turn the core and those bolts will slide away.
With my bike when I use to pick it up I use 4 Locks. Over kill but it works. Never stolen. I lock it up when I went to eat. But never over night. Comes home with me. I had two Kryptonite you locks and chain. I chain that sucker up. When I went to eat
Chiming in a bit late, but I just checked my Kryptonite New York lock, and it was actually assembled with the sidebar turned away from the cutout. Maybe it's just random, certainly something to verify if you buy a NY lock.
I see these as Daytime security as a added measure to deter a quick heist and run or move to a vehicle.. I'd have a Alarm system too for people hanging around my Bike...
Optimally positioned with good lighting. Those are not a thief’s typical field conditions. If a thief is lucky they might be working upside down on their back with a headlamp. More probably I am positioning lock(s) so they would need to be picked backhanded and blind. With a motion detector(s) to alert me the thief is face down while trying the first lock, then I’m looking for the driver.
I sure hope so! But it’s just a theory! Or maybe something to do with the machining and production? Or more likely an aesthetic choice for it to resemble a stereotypical keyhole.
The cutout might be to allow for the plastic keyhole cover to slide back. Not sure if that's correct, but I'd gladly go without a dustcover for extra drill protection.
In regards to the opening on the outer shell that would be ideal for drilling do you think the entire inner sleeve could be rotated 180* so that it is covered by the outer shell?
Dear Lockpicking Lawyer. I’ve had this lock now for a few years and lately, for the past few months, it takes me anywhere from 10 seconds to close to a minute to open it with the key as the rotation stops about halfway hanging up on something. Jiggling the key while turning helps most of the time to successfully turn fully . Do you have any idea what’s happened to it and can it be remedied? Thanks!
Either your key isn't going in all the way or you have some discs sticking together. Are you in a cold climate? Freezing water? Try flushing the lock with a water displacement liquid, like WD40, to remove moisture and any grime that my be causing the discs to stick to each other. Good luck.👍
LockPickingLawyer Thanks, it started while living in Phoenix, now living in Honolulu. Definitely in all the way and it begins proper rotation then abruptly stops/binds sharply. At that point it takes many quick back n forth and jiggling to get passed that “catch”. I will try to flush it again with WD again, it has been awhile... Bike theft and , more so, scooter/motorcycle theft is huge out here.
@@lockpickinglawyer I'm honestly surprised you would recommend using WD-40 on a lock you want to use again. WD-40 was/is designed to displace water (hence the name) not lubricate. While it does clean out water and other liquid, it leaves a residue behind that will attract dirt and gunk up the lock. Better to use a dry lubricant like graphite.
Interesting, I have this same lock, and it does not have 2 sleeves. Only the outer one, then you are at the plastic lock cylinder. I've emailed Kryptonite to ask if I received the right lock because they only have one disc lock model like this....
That's pretty impressive, but basically what I would expect from someone of your skill. Have you tried to pick an Abloy Protec2 yet? I've seen a guy on youtube who say he can pick it, but I'm pretty sure he's a liar. However, if you say you can I'd believe it. You seem like a straight up guy, so I'd love to see if you can pick one.
Ancient comment, I know. In one of his videos at some point (I don’t remember which one) he mentions that the Protec2 is far beyond his skill level. At least right now there’s only one real video of a pick on it and that’s from earlier this year. The guy who did it also created custom tools, which he wants to keep to himself, to do so and he’s been working to pick one for a very long time. LPL is a very good picker, but there’s still a big gap between him and high end locksmiths.
No false gates. In this video ( th-cam.com/video/BxIbAFnmsIQ/w-d-xo.html ) all bike lock styles and many manufacturers are tested for security. For u-locks, #1 is Abus Granite X 540 and #2 Kryptonite New York M18. I wonder how secure Abus u-locks are against picking.
Bro, as much as I admire your skills and all you have to admit one thing. It's a completely different scenario to lockpick in an controlled enviroment, especially having a go at it before recording a vid and in a busy street. I really want to see a potential thief trying to waste 2 minutes to lockpick this lock, constantly looking over the shoulder lol. Sure, it'd be better with false gates but still it's easier to just go on with angle grinder and be done with it within 30s. Much noise? Yeah. Someone would probably call the police? Sure. By the time the thief is done he jumps on the bike and bye Felicia haha. And even in case someone tries to interfere, good luck trying to subdue a thief with a portable angle grinder.
Remus if hes using the grinder to open a lock then youve got the element of surprise on him. If he sees tou comming the he will stop attacking the lock and deal with you. If you stay away from him you use up his time to steal the bike and he gets nervous and leaves. Besides all you really have to do stand next to him and do jumping jacks while going nanananabooboo at the top of your lungs. Hes gonna leave and leave you alone too. He doesnt have a reason to attack you, you might be crazier than him and he has a lot of eyes looking at him now.
Having worked in Law enforcement for 28 yrs your videos while entertaining are disingenuous. I've spoken to lots of idiot bike thieves and none ever try to pick the lock. Most use bolt cutters or Pry bars to ply their trade. No one should steer clear of these locks based on your concept that a thief is walking around with the myriad of lock picking tools that you've assembled. Quit it.
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Your videos remind me of what my dad told me when I was a kid. A lock only keeps an honest man honest.
The ring retainer is removed by rotating it anti-clockwise just until the thinner tail is level with the ramped inner edge, as you rotate the ring clockwise ease the tail up the ramp as it turns, eventually the whole ring rotates up the ramp releasing the core.
Nicely done. I was also dissapointed when I finally bought a disc detainer pick and found out my Kryptonite Evolution was easy to open. No false gates either and the ability to tension the core from the front disc both seem like issues they should have taken care of. I have heard some of their newer generation locks have better anti-pick features but I haven't managed to play with any of them yet.
Great job picking brother as usual, cant wait to try my first disc detainer lock. Thanks for the inspiration!
Ah the old days, before the bill and LPL’s custom disk pick
Cool..now I'm going to seal those holes closed so a Allen key can't be used on them. Thanks
Impressive analyssis! However, I would love to see if an updated version (2023) of this same lock has design improvements. Does Kryptonite actually improve and refine original designs or just put out new models?
When you got the core out of the lock, I think it would have been cool to have put the key in and turned it, to show us the back of the lock turning. Maybe that would also have revealed some partially hidden way to disassemble the core. Like maybe you turn the lock 30 times to unscrew it or something.
I have one of these in hand now, have not picked it yet but I will definitely use this video for help. Thank you 🙏.
Good to see a disc detainer vid. People, in general, seem to shy away from them. I know they're well above my pay grade.
Your a gifted picker so not much gives you a lot of trouble! Plastic in that lock is a bad sign and with that knowledge I wouldn't perches one believing it to be a cheap shortcut .
Keep the vids coming....
cerebellum yeah good point,
its probably me, I'm never keen on plastic as at some point it Will degrade, however it would probably be replaced by a better cheaper lock in it's working life time..
It is purchase. Come on.
Is there any lock YOU recommend
Na. A lock literally handed down by God himself is the only lock this guy can't pick.
Max Paws “this lock is unpickable Mr Lawyer. Not because of its pinning or precision, but because of its divine enchantment. Even the greatest locksmith in the realm could not- what are you doing”
LPL (after setting up camera): “Hello, this is the LockPickingLawyer. Today we have a very interesting lock. Unfortunately, however, we will be putting it up against the Ramset”
Another good video by the lockpicking lawyer
I like Kryptonite but somewhat dissapointed it being opened so quick ..no false gates, c'mon!...or, you are just too good at picking!🤣✌🙃
Dude relax. Look at my first comment.
dude chill, every lock can be picked.
Thieves NEVER pick, a strong shackle is my only concern.
Hmmm. Mine is built a little different. I wrote kryptonite a fb msssage after discovering the plastic plug. I think it leaves it vunerable to heat attacks. If the plastic can be softened in mine at least the core can be turned with. Tool or even a non working key. I still think its good lock. I was actually pretty impressed at hos long you took to pick it. I really think they should go to an aluminum or brass plug.
Yep see theres no steel restraining the core from turning if the plastic is compromised with heat.like there is in the larger new york lock. Turn the core and those bolts will slide away.
Open it with the Ramset gun!
Wow, that would be cool to see. First thought is that it wouldn't work because it's so robust, but hey - only one way to be sure!
Is there a bike lock you recommend?
With my bike when I use to pick it up I use 4 Locks. Over kill but it works. Never stolen. I lock it up when I went to eat. But never over night. Comes home with me. I had two Kryptonite you locks and chain. I chain that sucker up. When I went to eat
Wow! your bike must be the rolls royce of bikes.
Can The Inner Tube Be Turned Around And Inserted Backwards
So The Sidebar Is Under The Outer Tube ?
+ABLOY EXPERT Yes... and that's how I put min back together. 👍
Chiming in a bit late, but I just checked my Kryptonite New York lock, and it was actually assembled with the sidebar turned away from the cutout. Maybe it's just random, certainly something to verify if you buy a NY lock.
I see these as Daytime security as a added measure to deter a quick heist and run or move to a vehicle.. I'd have a Alarm system too for people hanging around my Bike...
Optimally positioned with good lighting. Those are not a thief’s typical field conditions. If a thief is lucky they might be working upside down on their back with a headlamp. More probably I am positioning lock(s) so they would need to be picked backhanded and blind. With a motion detector(s) to alert me the thief is face down while trying the first lock, then I’m looking for the driver.
Is possible to rotate outer slevee, to protect the side bar?
Please try the Abus Granit XPlus ulock PLEASE!!!
Very interesting well explained. Thanks for sharing buddy 😎⛤⛧⛦⛧⛦
...but everyone says you can't do that... ;)
Try the Ramset Gun!
can The outer sleev be turned around to avoid lining up with the core?
Perhaps if you lose the key, that spot exists so someone can drill it out to remove it and so you can get your bike back.
+Gregory Filin I sure hope not!
I sure hope so! But it’s just a theory! Or maybe something to do with the machining and production?
Or more likely an aesthetic choice for it to resemble a stereotypical keyhole.
Its easier to just cut the lock off. 30-45 seconds with an angle grinder.
Pleas review more u locks. Thanks
that was amazing
I'm really curious to see how this handles the ramset.
The cutout might be to allow for the plastic keyhole cover to slide back. Not sure if that's correct, but I'd gladly go without a dustcover for extra drill protection.
+Simcha Goldish nope... not for the slide. Note that The rubber coating is between the outer pipe and the dust cover.
Awesome vid. One question please, how would this locking cylinder compare to the Abus plus and x plus disk detainers in picking resistance?
Thanks 👍
+John Doe Abus is more difficult imo.
LockPickingLawyer do abus have false gates?
+WeTheTech Definitely!
Does this mean it's a good lock to buy
What if you glue the plastic and use locktite on the screws. Gorilla and hockey tape tightly. Having to remove the plastic now would slow things down.
They want to see, what guys like you would do with that drill spot, so... next video?
In regards to the opening on the outer shell that would be ideal for drilling do you think the entire inner sleeve could be rotated 180* so that it is covered by the outer shell?
Dear Lockpicking Lawyer. I’ve had this lock now for a few years and lately, for the past few months, it takes me anywhere from 10 seconds to close to a minute to open it with the key as the rotation stops about halfway hanging up on something. Jiggling the key while turning helps most of the time to successfully turn fully . Do you have any idea what’s happened to it and can it be remedied? Thanks!
Either your key isn't going in all the way or you have some discs sticking together. Are you in a cold climate? Freezing water? Try flushing the lock with a water displacement liquid, like WD40, to remove moisture and any grime that my be causing the discs to stick to each other. Good luck.👍
LockPickingLawyer Thanks, it started while living in Phoenix, now living in Honolulu. Definitely in all the way and it begins proper rotation then abruptly stops/binds sharply. At that point it takes many quick back n forth and jiggling to get passed that “catch”. I will try to flush it again with WD again, it has been awhile... Bike theft and , more so, scooter/motorcycle theft is huge out here.
@@lockpickinglawyer I'm honestly surprised you would recommend using WD-40 on a lock you want to use again. WD-40 was/is designed to displace water (hence the name) not lubricate. While it does clean out water and other liquid, it leaves a residue behind that will attract dirt and gunk up the lock. Better to use a dry lubricant like graphite.
@@tylermix7804 He said FLUSH THE LOCK, not lubricate the lock, with WD40
Interesting, I have this same lock, and it does not have 2 sleeves. Only the outer one, then you are at the plastic lock cylinder. I've emailed Kryptonite to ask if I received the right lock because they only have one disc lock model like this....
+Frag EightyFive There is the Evolution, which only has one sleeve. Perhaps you have that model? I will feature it soon. 👍
I have the same problem. I'm very interested in hearing what answer kryptonite gave you?
Is the cutout over the slide bar to allow for the plastic slider in the cover you took off?
+FlyingMoose No. ☹️
Would it be better to have a similar lock with a combination lock instead?
LPL★☆Strikes Again!!!
Why didn’t you show us the first time you picked it?
Btw. Is this your Banggood pick?
Hi wondering if you have come across with the Kryptonite Evolution Series 4 and would it be as easy to pick?
It's scary knowing you can get into my house without a key so quickly
maybe the internal core was in backwards?
Trex1268 not possible. The core is indexed.
+metamorphicorder but the whole inner tube can be turned...
That's pretty impressive, but basically what I would expect from someone of your skill. Have you tried to pick an Abloy Protec2 yet? I've seen a guy on youtube who say he can pick it, but I'm pretty sure he's a liar. However, if you say you can I'd believe it. You seem like a straight up guy, so I'd love to see if you can pick one.
Ancient comment, I know. In one of his videos at some point (I don’t remember which one) he mentions that the Protec2 is far beyond his skill level. At least right now there’s only one real video of a pick on it and that’s from earlier this year. The guy who did it also created custom tools, which he wants to keep to himself, to do so and he’s been working to pick one for a very long time. LPL is a very good picker, but there’s still a big gap between him and high end locksmiths.
So I could fill those screw heads with super glue or something
If you want to open abus plus cores and U locks. I have A perfect tool I can loan.
You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?
That's not a disc brake lock is it?
pauldzim yes it is
No false gates. In this video ( th-cam.com/video/BxIbAFnmsIQ/w-d-xo.html ) all bike lock styles and many manufacturers are tested for security. For u-locks, #1 is Abus Granite X 540 and #2 Kryptonite New York M18. I wonder how secure Abus u-locks are against picking.
I took a rubber off once
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Bro, as much as I admire your skills and all you have to admit one thing. It's a completely different scenario to lockpick in an controlled enviroment, especially having a go at it before recording a vid and in a busy street. I really want to see a potential thief trying to waste 2 minutes to lockpick this lock, constantly looking over the shoulder lol. Sure, it'd be better with false gates but still it's easier to just go on with angle grinder and be done with it within 30s. Much noise? Yeah. Someone would probably call the police? Sure. By the time the thief is done he jumps on the bike and bye Felicia haha. And even in case someone tries to interfere, good luck trying to subdue a thief with a portable angle grinder.
Remus if hes using the grinder to open a lock then youve got the element of surprise on him. If he sees tou comming the he will stop attacking the lock and deal with you. If you stay away from him you use up his time to steal the bike and he gets nervous and leaves. Besides all you really have to do stand next to him and do jumping jacks while going nanananabooboo at the top of your lungs. Hes gonna leave and leave you alone too. He doesnt have a reason to attack you, you might be crazier than him and he has a lot of eyes looking at him now.
So a average criminal stealing bikes won't be able to open it got it
Having worked in Law enforcement for 28 yrs your videos while entertaining are disingenuous. I've spoken to lots of idiot bike thieves and none ever try to pick the lock. Most use bolt cutters or Pry bars to ply their trade. No one should steer clear of these locks based on your concept that a thief is walking around with the myriad of lock picking tools that you've assembled. Quit it.
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