I expected the blue to become green or gray once the last ships were located and ships would then get polarity shaded. He had a lot of digits by the time he reached that point though.
As a fan of Battleships puzzles I had to give this a try and am thrilled to say I was actually able to solve it! Such a fun rule combination and expertly executed. Loved it!
@20:30 Useless Trivia: The largest ship in Battleship is the 5-cell Carrier. The Battleship itself is the 4-cell ship. The Cruiser and Submarine are 3-cells each, and the Destroyer is the tiny 2-cell ship. And the key to victory is always going to be finding that sneaky little Destroyer, because you can blast literally 49% of the entire board and still not find it. Often are the games of Battleship where the 2 players are each trying to find that Destroyer, both having sunk everything else.
@@BanaiFeldstein He's talking about a type of pencil-puzzle called "Battleships", not the two player game where players take turns attempting to sink each others ships. I have a book of this type of puzzle, although they don't always have four single cell ships to place.
Rules: 05:07 Let's Get Cracking: 08:42 Simon's time: 53m18s Puzzle Solved: 1:02:00 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Bobbins: 3x (44:09, 49:07, 57:38) Three In the Corner: 3x (59:50, 1:01:25, 1:01:36) Scooby-Doo: 1x (26:34) Maverick: 1x (48:42) The Secret: 1x (1:01:10) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 17x (17:44, 18:50, 20:53, 25:36, 38:03, 38:49, 39:59, 44:57, 45:33, 47:31, 49:12, 49:50, 55:15, 56:38, 58:44, 59:41, 1:00:42) Hang On: 9x (09:14, 09:14, 09:14, 18:31, 18:46, 20:48, 47:31, 47:31, 47:34) Clever: 7x (18:59, 29:48, 29:51, 29:53, 31:22, 44:15, 53:20) By Sudoku: 7x (33:38, 42:13, 42:38, 44:32, 56:38, 1:00:31, 1:01:14) Sorry: 4x (18:34, 19:47, 22:53, 49:37) Gorgeous: 4x (24:13, 41:10, 41:12, 57:25) Wow: 4x (35:33, 48:18, 52:58, 55:20) Goodness: 2x (08:56, 26:26) Nonsense: 2x (49:37, 49:42) Lovely: 2x (01:49, 37:23) Obviously: 2x (08:06, 21:08) Progress: 2x (20:08, 27:56) What Does This Mean?: 2x (26:26, 32:49) Nature: 2x (13:41, 36:38) Pencil Mark/mark: 2x (34:46, 55:47) Weird: 2x (02:53, 11:57) What on Earth: 1x (21:29) Useless: 1x (41:01) What a Puzzle: 1x (03:51) The Answer is: 1x (33:34) Naughty: 1x (45:37) In the Spotlight: 1x (1:01:40) Brilliant: 1x (1:01:55) Incredible: 1x (03:47) Take a Bow: 1x (1:02:38) Come on Simon: 1x (52:58) Shouting: 1x (03:24) Think Harder: 1x (44:44) In Fact: 1x (42:35) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Thirty Six (5 mentions) One (119 mentions) Black (32 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (25) - High (15) Even (14) - Odd (5) Lower (3) - Higher (1) Outside (2) - Inside (0) Black (32) - White (12) Column (32) - Row (26) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
Did anyone else notice that all of the black crop key dots, and the white dots in box 2 are in the shape of an anchor? It seems appropriate for something connected with Battleship.
At least half the time he says that, he either just mentioned the cell he needs to look at, or his cursor is hovering on it. I often wonder how much more I would frustrate Simon if he had to watch me play.... 🤣
While we're talking battleships, why does Sweden paint barcodes on all their battleship hulls? ... ... ... So when they get back to port they can scan da navy in
Very fun constraint and a great puzzle. Got through the battleship part beey quickly, but struggled with the Sudoku and finished in just under an hour 😀
42:31 finish. I had the same "Eureka" moment as Simon to finish coloring the last two cells. This was such a fun puzzle, and loved the theme of the German fleet as whisper lines!
I will say one thing I caught earlier than you, Simon, is that column 9 couldn't have a "high" digit with the 5's white dot. Because from around 46:00 you knew there was a high digit in row 2, row 7 and row 8. And one is forced in the row5 and 6 ship. Now the rest of the video is all the things you figured out before me, so we are at around 400 - 1
Looks very cool! My first thought seeing the grid was that the white dots were "misses" and the black dots were "hits" like in a game and that restricted the ships, could be another cool way to set up a battleship/sudoku puzzle, maybe that's been done
When you think of it the dots are all misses by implication, at least if you interpret a shot that is on the edge of a battleship rather than inside it as a "near miss," since the battleships can never cross them without breaking GW rules...
True, would be interesting to come up with a way to get black dots of some variety (odd digits, some non-standard thing) onto the battleships. May have to take a stab at it
I got 121 minutes and 2 attempts. I made too many logic leaps and suffered for it. I completely bungled it up and had to start over after a failed 40 minute attempt. I made it through again taking my time and did much better. I really like the ruleset, so this was still very fun.
Had a good show on this, then I realized I had mismarked something in the center after filling in the bottom three cells! Props on a good job as always
Love it!!! Quick thing, games like Myst and 🤞 Islands of insight can be configured to play with keyboard movement instead of mouse which makes them playable.
Finished in 51:44. Loved the battleship theme. Got stuck in one spot because I didn't see the german whispers canceling one possibility in box 8. Fun puzzle!
Not a week ago I was thinking while playjng Batleship, this would make a great sudoko variant, an here it is... going to watch this with much interest.
1:01:40 The angle under which the 3-in-the-corner confetti is popping up is rather unusual in this puzzle, probably due to the different scaling of the puzzle because of the ships shown at the right-hand side. The confetti does not go diagonally, but straight toward the centre of the puzzle screen!
Knew I had to immediately try this one as I've had some experience with solitaire battleship in the past and love combined puzzles like this. Wasn't the easiest but finished it without making mistakes in 67:58.
Where simon was stuck a bit at 53:00 I was stuck for like a solid hour, and felt I had to do some serious gymnastics to break through the logic hurdle. But felt so rewarding.
I had it a bit easier. I noticed the two high digits in the last column, box 9, which meant the two Battleships could only use two high digits between them. The 3 cell ship thus had to be low-high-low. Which fixes the 4 and 5 on the white dot, and the 4 needs to be accompanied by the 9 which can't go on a black dot. Easy finish from there.
I ended up with one possible way all the ships could fit in but I could clearly see there wasn't just one way. Couldn't figure out how to be certain, especially since I hadn't appreciated that they couldn't occupy both sides of a black dot either. I did consider the white ones. Pretty sure I saw over 50 videos by now and I still learned something new today: If you hit a ship with either a black or a white bomb, it will break apart and sink. Or something like that.
I don't know how many of your viewers play the puzzles exclusively on phones but I'm one. This layout makes the grid far too small to see so is sadly unplayable.
Kropki dots can't be on a German whisper. My initial thought was to present the dots as floating mines. But having the solver discover it was more interesting.
@@Oripy164 I should have been more clear - I didn't mean specifically this ruleset because of the german whisper issue, but as an idea for a similar battleship/sudoku puzzle. I could have phased it better for sure. Great puzzle, though! It was great fun to watch Simon solve it
When I saw battleship with the black and white kropke dots, I guessed that they would serve as hits and misses: locations ships must or mustn't intersect.
Correct me if I 'm wrong but the rules don't forbid ships to be diagonal, especially since the rules specify that the ships can be rotated. Therefore @25:35 Simon should not make those cells blue
44:40 + 27:18 (on my phone restarting on my computer with a bigger screen) = 71:58 total. I hit a wall on my computer and looked at the video to see that my ship placement was right, but my digits were totally wrong. But looking at the final solution, I happened to check the video where Simon was testing a number in Box 8 and I was actually right! Not sure what my mistake was on my first attempt, then. Restarted and was stuck for a bit before looking at the video again to see how the black dots in row 7 took care of the pencil marks in Box 8. I've played some battleship puzzles and am just bad at them in general, so am happy to have finished this one.
Only 70 people solved it and you did it in just one hour. That's world champion level for you. 🙂 If I make it down to 3 possible digits for two boxes then I'm already happy, while you're calling it useless. XD
Hi Simon! I fear I might be too late, but today (March 2nd) is my mom, Deb's, birthday! She shares my love of sudoku, and I gifted her Greatest Hits Vol 2 for Christmas this past year. She's coming to visit me later today on a trip with her best friend, and I would love to show her your birthday shoutout!
26:04 If there had been any single-cell battleships in this beautiful puzzle, they would be single-cell German Whisper lines, which actually COULD be a 5 🙂
37:23 is easier: r9c5 cannot be 2 (would force a 5 in r8c5) and cannot be 9 (would force r8c5 to 6, r7c5 to be 3, which in turn due to german whispers needs a 9 in r6c5, which collides with the origial 9). So r9c5 is 17. Each if which makes r8c5 a 4. The rest of c5 follows (except a 12 pair)
Regarding Islands of Insight you can scroll with mouse wheel to go into third person in case that helps Also it's very bright and hurts my head sometimes even on 0 gamma, don't have a solution for that, just heads up
oh my god this could have been so much easier. I don't understand why, but when i played this one on mobile it didn't show the sudoku boxes so i assumed (without re reading the rules carefully, i know that's my fault) that it didn't have boxes and only worked by restricting numbers in rows and columns. Surprisingly this still worked and i came to the solution without ever relying on box logic, but man that would have made things so much easier.
well, first things i notice is those ships must be jammed in there real tight, so tight the 4 corners must be occupied.. .but beyond that, I don't think I can figure out how to do this/..
@@Oripy164Just looking at the final solution, all the ships in columns 123 & 789 could be moved down one and still fit in the grid (leaving the top row completely empty).
At 32:35 there's a tiny logic error (that worked out favourably) - only the middle square in middle box is necessarily orange. The boats in column nine can go three from top, space, two from top.
I don't think that is true. There is 6 cells that needs 2+3 ship cells. So there is either 3 on top and 2 on the bottom or 2 on top and 3 on the bottom.
If the boats in column 9 went "three from top, space, two from top" then that would shade r6c9 orange, wouldn't it? Or did I misunderstand? (There has to be a three cell ship and a two cell ship in both columns 5 and 9 - neither can have two 2-cell ships since that leaves two 3-cell ships in the other column).
Yeah I saw that when he put the 456 pencil mark in and then at 49m he was near there saying no 1 on that black that but missed it. But luckily sees it 5min later
hmm 15:26 There are only three possibilities with the 789 top row of box 8 triple being tricky. You could mark every box with their options there aren't many options. 2,3,4,5,6,7 with an 8,9 and a lonely 1 6,5,4,3,2,1 with an 8, and either 7 or 9 4,5,6,7,8,9 with a 3,2 and a lonely 1
21:22: "either of these could be battleship at the moment" No, r7c4 can definitely *not* be battleship, because even assuming the smallest possible battleship (aka a two-ship in r6/7c4), that would rule out battle ships in column five from rows 5, 6 and 7. Whoch would mean only r2/3/4 could be a battleship in column 5 anymore, which would only allow for a maximum of 4 battle ship segements in column 5 total, which is too few. We can *also* tell for sure that there is either a 5-attleship in column 5 (which would mean, by nonogram rules, that r3/4/5/6c5 are all battleships for sure) or there is a 4-battleship in column 5 with an additional segment from a horizontal ship. That horizontal ship would *have* to go in row 2, since row 7 can't contain a horizontal ship anymore, which would force the 4-ship into r4/5/6/7c5. This tells us that there is *always* part of a vertical battleship in rows 4, 5 and 6 of coloum five, we just don't know yet whether they belong to a 4-ship or the 5-ship
How did Simon know that battleships couldn't be placed diagonally in the grid? Took me forever to solve because I couldn't prove that wasn't an option. Is it just because there were no diagonals in the grid?
I don't think he considered diagonal ships, because in the standard battleship puzzles this is also not allowed. But it could perhaps have been specified to make it clear indeed
Hearing Simon refer to the 5-cell ship as the Battleship was confusing to me. Maybe it's different in the UK or in pencil puzzles, but I always recalled the ships being named as follows: 2 - PT Boat 3 - Destroyer / Submarine 4 - Battleship 5 - Aircraft Carrier
In my version (UK), it was 2 - Destroyer 3 - Cruiser/Submarine 4 - Battleship 5 - Aircraft Carrier (It always annoyed me that I wasn't allowed to dive my submarine below the surface. What's the point of having a sub? 🙂)
By "Battleship" game logic, the 5 cell "battleship" is an air craft carrier, the 4 cells are battleships, the threes are subs or cruisers, and the two cell are destroyers. Also, Simon missed quite a bit of high/low logic in the puzzle. For instance, the 456 on the black dot could not have a six, and the two battleships had to alternate high and low on the rows.
Not sure if there are different versions of battleship around the world that feature different ship titles with different sizes but I am most familiar with what you described. I have also heard of the smallest ship being called a patrol boat.
I will never understand how his scanning works... whenever he puts his curser right on the spot where the next step is I think: YES!!!!! 2 seconds later he just starts a 500iq move on the other side of the grid which will eventually lead him to the same point. Leaving me disapointed that he will never even know that all rhis was actually not needed hahahaha
Around 13 minutes you could have got a 4 and an 8 in box 8. When you said the top row of box 8 is a 123 pair that's impossible due to there being a black dot in box 7 and box 9. If r7b8 has a 123 then what can the other black dots be? They can't be 12,24,36 so they both have to be 48 which is impossible
Another lovely solve, with, sadly, another occasion when you use "criteria" as a singular noun (23.25). Perhaps it is becoming a more common usage, but it is odd and rather disconcerting to hear it from you.
I have to say, your choice of blue for not battleship made me very happy ;)
Except that the pencil marks became almost unreadable. Very small already, and now on a blue background as well. 😢
I expected the blue to become green or gray once the last ships were located and ships would then get polarity shaded. He had a lot of digits by the time he reached that point though.
On the other hand, not choosing battleship grey made me sad.
I went directly to blue as well xD
I wanted the ships to be green because they are German whispers
I like that the software allows colouring the individual boats, so you can keep track of how many you've filled in so far.
Teacher: What can you tell me about the number three?
Me: It’s polyamorous and may or may not retain religious beliefs based on the corners.
Okay, that comment was far more fun than I expected. Thanks for the big grin.
As a fan of Battleships puzzles I had to give this a try and am thrilled to say I was actually able to solve it! Such a fun rule combination and expertly executed. Loved it!
@20:30 Useless Trivia: The largest ship in Battleship is the 5-cell Carrier. The Battleship itself is the 4-cell ship. The Cruiser and Submarine are 3-cells each, and the Destroyer is the tiny 2-cell ship.
And the key to victory is always going to be finding that sneaky little Destroyer, because you can blast literally 49% of the entire board and still not find it. Often are the games of Battleship where the 2 players are each trying to find that Destroyer, both having sunk everything else.
It's a German (whisper) fleet though, so does the submarine become a U-boat? 🙂
I believe it’s “aircraft carrier” for the 5-cell
And at 25 minutes, Simon claims there are four one-cell ships in Battleship. What game was he playing?
@@BanaiFeldstein He's talking about a type of pencil-puzzle called "Battleships", not the two player game where players take turns attempting to sink each others ships. I have a book of this type of puzzle, although they don't always have four single cell ships to place.
Really enjoyed that. The logic was fantastic throughout and it all flowed beautifully. Thanks Oripy.
Rules: 05:07
Let's Get Cracking: 08:42
Simon's time: 53m18s
Puzzle Solved: 1:02:00
What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
Bobbins: 3x (44:09, 49:07, 57:38)
Three In the Corner: 3x (59:50, 1:01:25, 1:01:36)
Scooby-Doo: 1x (26:34)
Maverick: 1x (48:42)
The Secret: 1x (1:01:10)
And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
Ah: 17x (17:44, 18:50, 20:53, 25:36, 38:03, 38:49, 39:59, 44:57, 45:33, 47:31, 49:12, 49:50, 55:15, 56:38, 58:44, 59:41, 1:00:42)
Hang On: 9x (09:14, 09:14, 09:14, 18:31, 18:46, 20:48, 47:31, 47:31, 47:34)
Clever: 7x (18:59, 29:48, 29:51, 29:53, 31:22, 44:15, 53:20)
By Sudoku: 7x (33:38, 42:13, 42:38, 44:32, 56:38, 1:00:31, 1:01:14)
Sorry: 4x (18:34, 19:47, 22:53, 49:37)
Gorgeous: 4x (24:13, 41:10, 41:12, 57:25)
Wow: 4x (35:33, 48:18, 52:58, 55:20)
Goodness: 2x (08:56, 26:26)
Nonsense: 2x (49:37, 49:42)
Lovely: 2x (01:49, 37:23)
Obviously: 2x (08:06, 21:08)
Progress: 2x (20:08, 27:56)
What Does This Mean?: 2x (26:26, 32:49)
Nature: 2x (13:41, 36:38)
Pencil Mark/mark: 2x (34:46, 55:47)
Weird: 2x (02:53, 11:57)
What on Earth: 1x (21:29)
Useless: 1x (41:01)
What a Puzzle: 1x (03:51)
The Answer is: 1x (33:34)
Naughty: 1x (45:37)
In the Spotlight: 1x (1:01:40)
Brilliant: 1x (1:01:55)
Incredible: 1x (03:47)
Take a Bow: 1x (1:02:38)
Come on Simon: 1x (52:58)
Shouting: 1x (03:24)
Think Harder: 1x (44:44)
In Fact: 1x (42:35)
Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
Thirty Six (5 mentions)
One (119 mentions)
Black (32 mentions)
Antithesis Battles:
Low (25) - High (15)
Even (14) - Odd (5)
Lower (3) - Higher (1)
Outside (2) - Inside (0)
Black (32) - White (12)
Column (32) - Row (26)
FAQ:
Q1: You missed something!
A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
Q2: Can you do this for another channel?
A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
this was a tough but lovely puzzle to solve. Did anyone else notice that the dots are shaped like an anchor???
Thank you for noticing!
Did anyone else notice that all of the black crop key dots, and the white dots in box 2 are in the shape of an anchor? It seems appropriate for something connected with Battleship.
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That is on purpose! Thank you for noticing
@@Oripy164 I thought that it was. You are very clever to layer all these pieces together.
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Wait a minute- its not crockey?? 😲
Just refreshed to see a new CTC video. Fri-YAY!
What a fun constraint! The kropki dots were quite helpful in finding the edges of ships. My time today was 50:55, and I was solver number 297.
"I don't know where to look"
Look at the digits in the board, Simon! 😂
That's about as realistic as him pencilmarking all squares with 123456789 😀
At least half the time he says that, he either just mentioned the cell he needs to look at, or his cursor is hovering on it. I often wonder how much more I would frustrate Simon if he had to watch me play.... 🤣
While we're talking battleships, why does Sweden paint barcodes on all their battleship hulls?
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So when they get back to port they can scan da navy in
(Kinda works better said aloud)
I Cringed 😂
BOO.
Take a bow, HunterJE. 😂
That’s quality. 🤣👏
My two favourite puzzles together! What a day, Simon!
This was very fun to watch! Awesome puzzle
We've come a long way from good old plain sudoku to german-whisper-battleships :)
I appreciate that the sample puzzle screen now has an arrow cursor instead of the hard-to-see pixel cursor that was previously used.
Simon choosing blue for sea made me stop and rewatch the video to check it was actually him and not an imposter 😉
Hey, at least he chose not-green (and no lines) for the German whispers.
What an interesting challenge❗ I am looking forward to solving this.
The ruleset aroused my curiosity and Simon's introduction amplified it.
Very fun constraint and a great puzzle. Got through the battleship part beey quickly, but struggled with the Sudoku and finished in just under an hour 😀
00:39:02 for me. Fantastic puzzle Oripy! Loved it! Kind comment.
42:31 finish. I had the same "Eureka" moment as Simon to finish coloring the last two cells. This was such a fun puzzle, and loved the theme of the German fleet as whisper lines!
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I really enjoyed this one, not easy to spot the clues, but once you do, you flow.
I will say one thing I caught earlier than you, Simon, is that column 9 couldn't have a "high" digit with the 5's white dot. Because from around 46:00 you knew there was a high digit in row 2, row 7 and row 8. And one is forced in the row5 and 6 ship.
Now the rest of the video is all the things you figured out before me, so we are at around 400 - 1
Yes, I used this too.
And once you know it's a 4-5 pair, its orientation is fixed by the black dot below (cannot have 4-9 down to the dot).
Great combo of rules. With a little of help I was able to do! Thanks! 😁
15:26 for me. Very fun puzzle, really enjoyed this one!!
61:27
Nice puzzle, and especially kudos for the software mods to make marking the boats and side clues off possible
47:20 'What I'm going to do ?'... The answer is (as always) sudoku. In column 4 an 6, to be precise.
Looks very cool! My first thought seeing the grid was that the white dots were "misses" and the black dots were "hits" like in a game and that restricted the ships, could be another cool way to set up a battleship/sudoku puzzle, maybe that's been done
When you think of it the dots are all misses by implication, at least if you interpret a shot that is on the edge of a battleship rather than inside it as a "near miss," since the battleships can never cross them without breaking GW rules...
True, would be interesting to come up with a way to get black dots of some variety (odd digits, some non-standard thing) onto the battleships. May have to take a stab at it
In my head while constructing this, the kropki dots where floating mines.
I would love to see Fog (as in Fog of War) included with this ruleset!
Ooh ships passing in the fog, very thematic!
A full Shipping Forecast sudoku!
Interesting fusion, I enjoyed waging battle on the high seas with my red fleet.
40:36 for me
Great idea! Wish there were more battleship sudokus :)
I got 121 minutes and 2 attempts. I made too many logic leaps and suffered for it. I completely bungled it up and had to start over after a failed 40 minute attempt. I made it through again taking my time and did much better. I really like the ruleset, so this was still very fun.
Had a good show on this, then I realized I had mismarked something in the center after filling in the bottom three cells! Props on a good job as always
23:39 ... considering the video length, I was surprised to finish this one as fast as I did
I greatly enjoyed this puzzle!
Love it!!! Quick thing, games like Myst and 🤞 Islands of insight can be configured to play with keyboard movement instead of mouse which makes them playable.
Does anyone know settings I can put into the app to solve the puzzle without ruining my eyesight? I don't need the battle ships.
Finished in 51:44. Loved the battleship theme. Got stuck in one spot because I didn't see the german whispers canceling one possibility in box 8.
Fun puzzle!
Thanks!
Best of Sudoku. Vol. 3!
Simon i also struggle with motion sickness. For islands of insight i found using 3rd person view was more manageable
Not a week ago I was thinking while playjng Batleship, this would make a great sudoko variant, an here it is... going to watch this with much interest.
I think it would be really interesting to see a puzzle solve with the eye tracking software to see where Simon looks as he solves the puzzle
I love islands of insight, i hope you can handle it! Even if you just focus the logic puzzles dotted around the map its worth a play
1:01:40 The angle under which the 3-in-the-corner confetti is popping up is rather unusual in this puzzle, probably due to the different scaling of the puzzle because of the ships shown at the right-hand side. The confetti does not go diagonally, but straight toward the centre of the puzzle screen!
Knew I had to immediately try this one as I've had some experience with solitaire battleship in the past and love combined puzzles like this. Wasn't the easiest but finished it without making mistakes in 67:58.
Thanks!
The bottom dots were resolved from the start. When you were putting a 6 in row 8 column 5, it put a 123 triple in row 7 which breaks the black dots
I got 33:47. I guess playing endless battleship solitaire on my phone finally paid off! Well set, Oripy!
Very entertaining puzzle. 57:58. Messed up and had to reset - not an easy one to back out your mistake on :) Fortunately, quite easy to replay.
Where simon was stuck a bit at 53:00 I was stuck for like a solid hour, and felt I had to do some serious gymnastics to break through the logic hurdle. But felt so rewarding.
I had it a bit easier. I noticed the two high digits in the last column, box 9, which meant the two Battleships could only use two high digits between them. The 3 cell ship thus had to be low-high-low. Which fixes the 4 and 5 on the white dot, and the 4 needs to be accompanied by the 9 which can't go on a black dot. Easy finish from there.
Finished in 42:37 - I enjoyed this one a lot!
45:10, what a beautiful puzzle!
I missed the 1 clue and went longer and harder way. 51 minutes and proud.
I ended up with one possible way all the ships could fit in but I could clearly see there wasn't just one way. Couldn't figure out how to be certain, especially since I hadn't appreciated that they couldn't occupy both sides of a black dot either. I did consider the white ones. Pretty sure I saw over 50 videos by now and I still learned something new today: If you hit a ship with either a black or a white bomb, it will break apart and sink. Or something like that.
I don't know how many of your viewers play the puzzles exclusively on phones but I'm one. This layout makes the grid far too small to see so is sadly unplayable.
Yes, I started with phone, but switched to laptop, witch I don't usually use for solving.
I feel like there was a big missed opportunity with this ruleset to have the kropki dots represent hits and misses in a battleship game
Kropki dots can't be on a German whisper. My initial thought was to present the dots as floating mines. But having the solver discover it was more interesting.
@@Oripy164 I should have been more clear - I didn't mean specifically this ruleset because of the german whisper issue, but as an idea for a similar battleship/sudoku puzzle. I could have phased it better for sure. Great puzzle, though! It was great fun to watch Simon solve it
I almost finished this faster than Simon. Really pleased with myself for that
When I saw battleship with the black and white kropke dots, I guessed that they would serve as hits and misses: locations ships must or mustn't intersect.
Correct me if I 'm wrong but the rules don't forbid ships to be diagonal, especially since the rules specify that the ships can be rotated. Therefore @25:35 Simon should not make those cells blue
The rules do not allow for diagonal ships. It is not explicit, but a ship can't change size, a diagonal ship would be sqrt(2) time longer!
Simon often says the phrase, "that won't work" and then very often proceeds to not explain why.
44:40 + 27:18 (on my phone restarting on my computer with a bigger screen) = 71:58 total.
I hit a wall on my computer and looked at the video to see that my ship placement was right, but my digits were totally wrong. But looking at the final solution, I happened to check the video where Simon was testing a number in Box 8 and I was actually right! Not sure what my mistake was on my first attempt, then. Restarted and was stuck for a bit before looking at the video again to see how the black dots in row 7 took care of the pencil marks in Box 8.
I've played some battleship puzzles and am just bad at them in general, so am happy to have finished this one.
Only 70 people solved it and you did it in just one hour. That's world champion level for you. 🙂
If I make it down to 3 possible digits for two boxes then I'm already happy, while you're calling it useless. XD
39:59 not putting a single number (except some 5s) until getting all ships was weird
How does one make a puzzle like this
Is this puzzle on LMD? I can’t seem to find it
Hi Simon! I fear I might be too late, but today (March 2nd) is my mom, Deb's, birthday! She shares my love of sudoku, and I gifted her Greatest Hits Vol 2 for Christmas this past year. She's coming to visit me later today on a trip with her best friend, and I would love to show her your birthday shoutout!
26:04 If there had been any single-cell battleships in this beautiful puzzle, they would be single-cell German Whisper lines, which actually COULD be a 5 🙂
Lucy ! A hero amongst Heros 👏
37:23 is easier: r9c5 cannot be 2 (would force a 5 in r8c5) and cannot be 9 (would force r8c5 to 6, r7c5 to be 3, which in turn due to german whispers needs a 9 in r6c5, which collides with the origial 9). So r9c5 is 17. Each if which makes r8c5 a 4. The rest of c5 follows (except a 12 pair)
hard to see numbers on blue- use a lighter shade?
First time to do battleship sudoku. Got it in an hour and a half.
Regarding Islands of Insight you can scroll with mouse wheel to go into third person in case that helps
Also it's very bright and hurts my head sometimes even on 0 gamma, don't have a solution for that, just heads up
26:20 "thats means something probably". Yes! only only one place left for your battleship.
oh my god this could have been so much easier. I don't understand why, but when i played this one on mobile it didn't show the sudoku boxes so i assumed (without re reading the rules carefully, i know that's my fault) that it didn't have boxes and only worked by restricting numbers in rows and columns. Surprisingly this still worked and i came to the solution without ever relying on box logic, but man that would have made things so much easier.
50:20 Why can't 1 be in R6 C 1 or 3?
Focus on where 1 can be in row 5.
Not the black dot, because row 4 column 7 is a 1 or 2. Not in box 5. So it can only be in box 4 in row 5.
Ooh this looks fun!
1:11:57 - It was hard work on an iPhone - much too small a grid, but very enjoyable nonetheless.
Gave it a try and got stuck, so I just watched.
When the variant is easier than the sudoku part.....had a 5 seeing a cell that was 5/7....and struggled to fill in digits
My first time completing a >1 hour video puzzle! 1 hour 9 minutes for me.
well, first things i notice is those ships must be jammed in there real tight, so tight the 4 corners must be occupied.. .but beyond that, I don't think I can figure out how to do this/..
This is not true, the 4 corners do not have to be occupied
@@Oripy164Just looking at the final solution, all the ships in columns 123 & 789 could be moved down one and still fit in the grid (leaving the top row completely empty).
At 32:35 there's a tiny logic error (that worked out favourably) - only the middle square in middle box is necessarily orange. The boats in column nine can go three from top, space, two from top.
I don't think that is true. There is 6 cells that needs 2+3 ship cells. So there is either 3 on top and 2 on the bottom or 2 on top and 3 on the bottom.
If the boats in column 9 went "three from top, space, two from top" then that would shade r6c9 orange, wouldn't it? Or did I misunderstand? (There has to be a three cell ship and a two cell ship in both columns 5 and 9 - neither can have two 2-cell ships since that leaves two 3-cell ships in the other column).
At the 41 minute mark the 1-2 pair in box 6 clear up the ships.
Yeah I saw that when he put the 456 pencil mark in and then at 49m he was near there saying no 1 on that black that but missed it. But luckily sees it 5min later
hmm
15:26 There are only three possibilities with the 789 top row of box 8 triple being tricky. You could mark every box with their options there aren't many options.
2,3,4,5,6,7 with an 8,9 and a lonely 1
6,5,4,3,2,1 with an 8, and either 7 or 9
4,5,6,7,8,9 with a 3,2 and a lonely 1
39:00 he eliminated one of my options: the last one, shrug.
21:22: "either of these could be battleship at the moment"
No, r7c4 can definitely *not* be battleship, because even assuming the smallest possible battleship (aka a two-ship in r6/7c4), that would rule out battle ships in column five from rows 5, 6 and 7. Whoch would mean only r2/3/4 could be a battleship in column 5 anymore, which would only allow for a maximum of 4 battle ship segements in column 5 total, which is too few.
We can *also* tell for sure that there is either a 5-attleship in column 5 (which would mean, by nonogram rules, that r3/4/5/6c5 are all battleships for sure) or there is a 4-battleship in column 5 with an additional segment from a horizontal ship. That horizontal ship would *have* to go in row 2, since row 7 can't contain a horizontal ship anymore, which would force the 4-ship into r4/5/6/7c5. This tells us that there is *always* part of a vertical battleship in rows 4, 5 and 6 of coloum five, we just don't know yet whether they belong to a 4-ship or the 5-ship
I am shouting at my screen when something so easy can be solved based on something else being solved
40:52 I know how that is. ("BOX TWO! BOX TWO!")
Hahahaha. It happens. I really think Simon pretends to not see some obvious things. But it may be genuine. I don't know. He is a genius in any case.
How did Simon know that battleships couldn't be placed diagonally in the grid? Took me forever to solve because I couldn't prove that wasn't an option. Is it just because there were no diagonals in the grid?
I don't think he considered diagonal ships, because in the standard battleship puzzles this is also not allowed. But it could perhaps have been specified to make it clear indeed
Never been so early. Really cool puzzle
Hearing Simon refer to the 5-cell ship as the Battleship was confusing to me. Maybe it's different in the UK or in pencil puzzles, but I always recalled the ships being named as follows:
2 - PT Boat
3 - Destroyer / Submarine
4 - Battleship
5 - Aircraft Carrier
I grew up with the sub being 2, but the rest the same as you
In my version (UK), it was
2 - Destroyer
3 - Cruiser/Submarine
4 - Battleship
5 - Aircraft Carrier
(It always annoyed me that I wasn't allowed to dive my submarine below the surface. What's the point of having a sub? 🙂)
Simon never shaded the last 6 over column 5 😭
If the ships are German Whispers, can we say they're in "Silent Running"?
By "Battleship" game logic, the 5 cell "battleship" is an air craft carrier, the 4 cells are battleships, the threes are subs or cruisers, and the two cell are destroyers. Also, Simon missed quite a bit of high/low logic in the puzzle. For instance, the 456 on the black dot could not have a six, and the two battleships had to alternate high and low on the rows.
Not sure if there are different versions of battleship around the world that feature different ship titles with different sizes but I am most familiar with what you described. I have also heard of the smallest ship being called a patrol boat.
That could work for one cell battleships.@@FireTruckFuel
I will never understand how his scanning works... whenever he puts his curser right on the spot where the next step is I think: YES!!!!!
2 seconds later he just starts a 500iq move on the other side of the grid which will eventually lead him to the same point.
Leaving me disapointed that he will never even know that all rhis was actually not needed hahahaha
Around 13 minutes you could have got a 4 and an 8 in box 8. When you said the top row of box 8 is a 123 pair that's impossible due to there being a black dot in box 7 and box 9. If r7b8 has a 123 then what can the other black dots be? They can't be 12,24,36 so they both have to be 48 which is impossible
British battleship has 1 cell ships? In the US the smallest is 2. Or at least in all the sets I've played.
He's talking about the logic problem Battleship, not the board game
The German navy shouldn't have whispered like that. Loose lips sink ships! They did not see Simon coming
Another lovely solve, with, sadly, another occasion when you use "criteria" as a singular noun (23.25). Perhaps it is becoming a more common usage, but it is odd and rather disconcerting to hear it from you.
i completely messed up the solve. made so many mistakes i failed even when started over.
So disappointed that Simon made the sea blue. He’s usually so averse to using a color that is expected. Maybe it’s a cry for help. 😂
42:30 I am very happy!