I still think Fields will overcome all of this. The disrespect is brazy. That boy puts in work. He will come out great in the end. You can’t hide greatness forever.
In 4 years Fields has been in 3 different offensive systems, played behind a line with only one starter, a center who has under 50 snaps at center in his career, has never played under center. What are you looking at.
Haters? It’s called speaking the truth. Fools like you are what has drowned the Bears in mediocrity for decades. Thankfully Ryan Poles is far more intelligent than you and rightfully upgraded to Caleb Williams.
They are speaking truth. Fields IS a turnover machine. Fields had 38 fumbles in 40 games. WTF. That’s HORRENDOUS! You can’t blame that on coaching, scheme or team talent. He makes the OCCASIONAL explosive play but ROUTINELY makes bad plays.
One of those sacks was against our rookie RT who was up against a good NFL pass rusher. The fumbled snaps isn't just on Fields. The center isn't even a pure center. He is a backup guard playing center. Funny how when our rookie, 2nd rd pick (center), who is a PURE center, came in the game there wasn't another fumble.
Justin was different from all OSU QBs before him. He has real arm strength, is a great athlete and downfield accuracy was better than any one of them. He held on the ball and was slow to certain progressions. He got to Chicago and was supposed to be on the bench his first year because Nagy wanted him to have full grasp of the playbook and learn from Dalton. He was forced into action before they were ready and he was under pressure early, as the season went on he got better. He had the flashes ie Pittsburgh, Detroit, 49ers and Minnesota games. His second year, the new regime tore the building apart to the scraps, Justin struggled but once they self scouted, he had one of the greatest QB rushing seasons ever, but last year didn’t have the talent around him to win.
At some point he is who he is. If he can't find success long term in Pittsburgh, then he's just another bottom end/backup, just like every other QBs drafted high. I'm not sure I understand the obsession with the Fields stans. Maybe he's been playing the wrong position all of his football career?
@@LeeTraviusMcKay Well, Mitch Trub. also was forced to start the majority of his rookie year for a head coach who was on the way out the door. Why don't you make excuses for him for why he failed in Chi? Enough with the lame BS excuses and move on.
@@LeeTraviusMcKay Here's the issue, we've seen other QBs with worse teams achieve more or look more like a competent QB. Outside of running or playing a bottom 5 defense Fields looks average at best. Would it help if he could sit for a year? Maybe, being the #1 pick doesn't afford you those things. Either play well or we move on. Stroud didn't have a better situation than Fields and he looks like a much better QB.
How y’all have this crazy energy when it comes to Justin fields and say he has been in the leage for 3 years but yall bend down on yall knee for Justin Hebert who hasn’t had 1 playoff win and has a 27 point half playoff choke on his resume?
Chargers collapsing had more to do with coaching and defense. I do believe that JF isn’t that good, but the media makes it worse. Out of all the Bears offensive players during Fields there’s only 1 player that has a starting job the season after they left.
I agree, I think it's so funny that people keep giving Fields, "a pass" but they don't do the same for Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or Mac Jones who were all drafted in the first round the same year as Justin. Steeler fans are delusional if they think Justin Fields is their future!
I’m apart of his fanbase Which is bigger than most football teams have When did Justin ever have help? I know Dj Moore got paid this year all because of fields He won’t ever have a season again like he had last year with fields
Justin missed a few games and was 1 game away from the playoffs.. If the Bears Defense was healthy in the beginning of the season.. Either way, Go Chicago 🐻
Praying isn't needed, hard work is what changes the situation. Not talking to yourself. If you disagree, please, test my theory. Lock yourself in a room that no one knows your at and pray for food. Then, another day, got to the store, buy food, cook it, and tell me what fills your desires better. 😉
@@dorothyhunter4656someone playing for an NFL team doesn't count for playing for an NFL team??? I don't think anybody in your life takes you serious. 👍
@@dorothyhunter4656 never said he wasn't... What I did say, is that he played for the NFL, and to discredit the work it takes to get to that level tells me what your estrogen levels are at.
@@dantheman8152 and with a stable organization, good supporting players AND AN OFFENSIVE LINE. He'll be fine if not then you can say he's a bust. We've witnessed over the years highly talented players end up in a bad situation, and not being able to be who they are
@@bradbaxter3343 could you really sit there and compare organizations of the Steelers and Bears and say all this time you have watched the NFL and said they're on the same level answer that first before I answer anything
Nope I’ve seen the same happen to Desmond ridder the center caused the fumble and he got blamed and it was his first season starting and they trashed his name and he was a 3rd round pick 🤣🤣🤣 so naw no excuse for fields
I mean, people can look bad in the preseason and ball out afterwards. Remember that one Ja’marr Chase dude? One of the 10 best receivers in the league Ja’marr Chase? Yeah that guy.
yea Ja'marr Chase rookie year where he developed butter fingers. He still showed why he was good. This ain't Fields Rookie year this year 4 justin fields.
@@NPAMike that’s true, I guess the comparisons aren’t really the same, my point was more so that we shouldn’t judge Fields’ potential growth based off of the preseason.
Negative, James is a Fields fan, friend. Joy is correct, Fields isn't a rookie, 38 fumbles in 3 years, demonstrate growth now. Wilson is starting next preseason game, Fields was suppose to start next preseason game, Fields will be in a different industry after 2025 season; Tomlin saw enough. Aedin
Weren’t LeSean and Joy going goo goo gaga over Caleb Williams going 4-7 95yards with a 13 yard rush? Now they want to bash Justin Fields because of two fumbles which weren’t even on him at all and they still recovered both.
I don’t think people get the idea that Russ’s 2023 stats would’ve potentially gotten the Steelers into the SB. And no, Russ isn’t declined. He’s not washed. He still has his stuff! He needed better support.
What's crazy is the fact that this show gives Russell Wilson so many flowers. When they say "we've seen three years of Justin Fields" without acknowledging that we've seen the last 3-4 seasons of Russell Wilson TOO! And no, RW was not "good" last year. That's looking at stats without watching the games.
I can tell this panel doesn’t know anything. You had a guard at C again with barely any snaps and a rookie RT missing a block. The comments were not even aimed towards Fields. The center who started the game just got benched for a rookie. Please start adding context to these conversations
Hold on. This is exactly how fields looked in chicago. Big negative plays that stahled drives. Then completed passes to wide open receivers. He is C player in his 4th year.
... Hasn't been in over 10 yrs... The last one Wilson threw into coverage on a 2nd and goal when he should have thrown out of the end zone and go to 3rd down. At best R Wilson gets Steelers to a Wildcard game... History shows he has never won an away playoff game.
@Lutherson1962 I told no lies, but since u wwnt to sound like a bias television analysts. Russell Wilson threw he 8th most touchdowns out of 50 QBs. 26 to be exact like ur 10 years. Drops mic. Only 7 players had more touchdown passes than Wilson last season, and he was benched for multiple games cause he didn't want to change his contract.
@@Lutherson1962 history's shows he is and will forever be better than Kenny Pickett, so if u wasn't talking about Kenny his entire career, then zip it.
I just find it HILARIOUS how much people try to defend Justin Fields 😂😂😂😂 That kid is a Runningback that can throw far and run 😂😂🤔🤔 He can't do anything else that QBs should be able to do...
@@boneheadwingfield6508 bruh, there will B some kind of live taping somewhere, & I’m showing up 2 disrupt the whole thing 4 fields I know fields got an answer from a woman that left shady on red😂
Joy must have crush on fields like what did he do to you .? The man is 25 with a lot of potential still left I could name numerous of QB’s that was trash they first 3/4 years but after that they was solid if not great QB’s… Geno smith,drew Brees, Peyton manning, Eli manning, phillp rivers ,Jared Goff, Matthew stafford , the list goes on .
You haven’t seen Russ. I don’t believe for one second that he is too injured to play. I think they don’t want to risk him being injured for real, and they want the noise about Fields being the starter to stop!
Kenny Pickett had the perfect preseason last year and we know how that turned out. Fields had 3 different offenses, different OCs, and different HCs. Fields haven’t had consistent play callers.
There have been only 3 black quarterbacks who have won Super Bowls. That includes Doug Williams, Russel Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. I wonder why that is? There have been 56 Super bowls total. I find it interesting statistically speaking. What are the characteristics that make up a quarterback who will win the Super Bowl? I know it is a team sport though. Maybe Justin Fields will get better as a back up for Russell Wilson and they can win another Super bowl.
@@andrebryant5081 What do you mean by that? You stated, " You had more to loose...". I totally wanted both Steve McNair and Daute Culpepper to win a Super Bowl.
What’s crazy is it’s preseason! From what I’ve seen Fields looks better in passing. He still has things to iron out like the 2 sacks and 2 fumbles. But to say all the bad and no good is crazy to me. He had solid NFL completions that we rarely seen in Chicago. That matters as well. But they also bash Herbert.
@@carbon.the.christ5626The Steelers started Justin Fields for two reasons: 1. Russell was injured. 2. So they can see what his strengths and weaknesses are.
@@AilmanF2Pjust like I asked the other million trolls like yourself, WHEN DID THE BEARS PROTECT JUSTIN. His FIRST start he was sacked NINE times. God u ppl are stupid
As a Bears fan, I'm disappointed his fumbling issues are still there. I mean some of it is on the center but he had the same issues just holding onto the ball here.
As a Bears fan I can say, this is who Justin Fields is. He's the guy who give you just enough hope to keep saying, "maybe maybe maybe", but he never comes through in the clutch. He can't read a defense, holds the ball the longest in the NFL. Joy Taylor and Shady making the most sense here.
Congrats on the DUMBEST comment of 2024. There’s 3 former NFL players on the show but somehow they are unqualified to comment 😂. What NFL or college football did you play or coach lol?
@@manifestra2003 Receiver's were running the wrong routes for 3 years, amazing how WRs before they went to the Bears were never running the wrong routes. Only on TH-cam can you hear such nonsense. 🤡
QBs are responsible for fumbles if the ball doesn’t go directly into the ground or over their head coming from the center. He has 38 fumbles in 40 games. Safe to say he has the issue
@tristingarcia5718 yea and he had 0 center/QB exchange fumbles before the other night. Don't get caught up watching this biased show and lose context on how the fumbles happen. There is a difference between trying to do a little too much and fumbling which he is guilty of vs QB/center exchange fumble which he never had before the other day. It was clearly on the center which is why they took the center out right after and he miraculous didn't fumble again lol. The center that fumbled is a guard that they're converting to a center lol. Again dude made every pass. They neglect to mention that smh.
I don’t have any issue with people having an opinion that Justin feels isn’t that good. But in Sadies case he never gave concrete detailed reasons as to why. He would just reference yards/ TD stats and say what has he done.
1. The center said the fumbles were 100% his fault. 2. The other 2 bad plays were sacks. So it’s safe to say atleast 2/4 of the bad plays were not his fault. So let’s not freak out over 2 bad plays in preseason. Especially when the guy went 6/7 passing 😩🤦🏾♂️
You need to realize young lady he was under 3 horrible coaching staffs that failed him in development ... thats what you dont want to admit.. And i have been a bears fan from the wound birn and raised on the southside of englewood where always up to no good period ... justin will be asuper star in this league ... and im standing on that ...
Joy is always completely on point when it comes to the NFL. If Wilson simply doesn't lose games, the Steelers are going to be fine. He will make a few throws, each game, that will keep the offense moving, that defense will lock folks up, and Russ will only need to provide 21-24 pts a game and Pittsburgh is going to win 10+games, with a potential playoff win. That would be a huge step in the right direction for the franchise.
Tomlin is a genius. Mike is getting the noise out of the way early. Mitch was the vet and Kenny was the “new guy”. He played the vet first and it backfired with the fans yelling “Kenny”! I was one of them. Now he is letting everyone see that the “young guy” is not ready. Russ will be fine. He’s better than what we had. Stop comparing him to other QB’s. We Are The Pittsburgh Steelers. Sit back and watch! Here We Go!
*Here are Russ’s 2023 numbers (in 15 games, not 17).* 3,070 Yards 26 TDs 3 Rushing TDs (341 yards, 386 equiv.) 8 INTs 66.4% Complete 78.8% Adjusted Complete Rate. 98 Passer Rating *Russ’s 2023 Rankings:* 1st in Fourth Qtr comebacks (4) 1st in Game-Winning Drives (4) 2nd in Adj. Completion Rate (78.8%)* 2nd in TD% (5.9) 4th in Completion Differentials 5th in TD-INT Ratio (26:8) 7th in Passer Rating (98.0) 9th in TDs (26) 9th in INT Rate (1.8) 10th in INTs among qualified QBs (8) 11th in Completion% (66.4%) According to Sports Info Solutions (SIS), Russ’s arm is as deadly as ever! He completed six passes that flew 40+ air yards past the original line of scrimmage (for 301 yards), good for #1 in the league. Four of those six went for TDs, and the two that didn’t were attributed as drops by the targeted receivers. Russ attempted 16 such passes, and 10 were deemed on target by SIS. Of those 16 attempts, not a single one resulted in an interception. Russ had one of the league’s top deep-ball passer ratings, had one of the highest season-long 4th quarter passer ratings, and led the league in red zone efficiency for half the season. He also rushed for 341 yards in 15 games, which is the equivalent of 386 yards over 17 games, or 220%+ times the rush yards of the average NFL QB. That was with Sean Payton suppressing his numbers. Russ is still capable of rushing for 400-500 yards. That’s ELITE! You cannot be washed and do these things. He also had 4 of the top-5 least probable completions and led the Broncos to a #1 red zone performance rating for half the season.
James Jones has objectively the best takes on this show and it isn’t particularly close.
This. Others reach for gotcha takes.
The show is so bad when he’s not there
💯…he doesn’t just talk about what’s on the surface. He’s definitely the best on the show
I will be glad when speak gets cancelled.😂😂😂
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Joy top bouta bust
More food please
😂😂😂
I’m here for it
I pray for times like these
So am I 😂
Justin Fields was never going to beat out Russell Wilson, the media just ran with that narrative because Mike Tomlin didn’t even say that.
He already has
@@Tawknmysht he definitely hasnt, Russ is back taking first team snaps
They actually share them.
Tomlin said he's the starter basically because of experience, but they want Justin to win it because of youth
@@pbraga7832 Isn’t that how it’s supposed to go?
I still think Fields will overcome all of this. The disrespect is brazy. That boy puts in work. He will come out great in the end. You can’t hide greatness forever.
He spent five years in a terrible system
Fields is trash man. Haha why are you defending him? Like seriously?
I’m with you
@@jaygaines22442 years. And nah he just isn’t good
Takes time for players to develop, but he's not ready right now to be a starter.
In 4 years Fields has been in 3 different offensive systems, played behind a line with only one starter, a center who has under 50 snaps at center in his career, has never played under center. What are you looking at.
More excuses
He’s not consistent tho with the season. I think he’ll have a career revival later on.
@@andrebryant5081 It’s the truth
Playing qb is hard some pick up faster than others.. but he's on a short leash he can't turn the ball over
@@k.tmoney9915he didn’t turn the ball over in this game lol
James Jones is really good at what he does without having to scream, wine, and repeat himself
18 minutes on Justin Fields in a preseason game. Times must be tough on Speak.
Lmao
They went to 2 hours so I guess they gotta stretch these topics
My guy wasn't even on the field for 18 minutes
Yeah it's preseason
18 minutes about bad Qbs
Justin got so many HATERS on this show smdh
It was 2-2 lol
Haters? It’s called speaking the truth. Fools like you are what has drowned the Bears in mediocrity for decades. Thankfully Ryan Poles is far more intelligent than you and rightfully upgraded to Caleb Williams.
90% of the media is pushing for Fields to be qb1.
They are speaking truth. Fields IS a turnover machine. Fields had 38 fumbles in 40 games. WTF. That’s HORRENDOUS! You can’t blame that on coaching, scheme or team talent. He makes the OCCASIONAL explosive play but ROUTINELY makes bad plays.
how they hatin he trash bruh...in yr 4 TRASH
It was perfect fields. A bunch of horrible plays then a couple of plays that make you have hope. Repeat at nauseam until your fired
Yes as a bears fan, countless of times I had so much hope!! Then he would do the the dumbest plays when he had wide open receivers.
Justin Fields is what the NFL media thought 2018 Lamar Jackson was going to turn out to be
Nope. Lamar Jackson is what delusional fans and media keep hoping Justin Fields can be.
Russell Wilson had back to back All-pro caliber seasons in 2019-20. Aint no way he could fall off that hard to not start em.
It's 2024😂😂😂😂
"Is Russ good?" Last year he literally had more touchdowns and less interceptions than Jaylen Hurts
Jalen didn't have an offensive coordinator. He ran a high school offense.
One of those sacks was against our rookie RT who was up against a good NFL pass rusher.
The fumbled snaps isn't just on Fields. The center isn't even a pure center. He is a backup guard playing center. Funny how when our rookie, 2nd rd pick (center), who is a PURE center, came in the game there wasn't another fumble.
God forbid they mention that. We need community notes at this point
Exactly
I’m rooting the Fields. I’m a chiefs fan and I want the Steelers to do good because they talking bad on this guy. I believe he is a good qb.
I love her she speak the truth
People actually thought Justin fields was better than Russell Wilson😂. He’s never been better 🤣
@@garrettodion1972 Steelers sign Aiyuk to replicate Seahawks' Metcalf. Aedin
Bro he will be fine
Justin was different from all OSU QBs before him. He has real arm strength, is a great athlete and downfield accuracy was better than any one of them. He held on the ball and was slow to certain progressions. He got to Chicago and was supposed to be on the bench his first year because Nagy wanted him to have full grasp of the playbook and learn from Dalton. He was forced into action before they were ready and he was under pressure early, as the season went on he got better. He had the flashes ie Pittsburgh, Detroit, 49ers and Minnesota games. His second year, the new regime tore the building apart to the scraps, Justin struggled but once they self scouted, he had one of the greatest QB rushing seasons ever, but last year didn’t have the talent around him to win.
At some point he is who he is. If he can't find success long term in Pittsburgh, then he's just another bottom end/backup, just like every other QBs drafted high. I'm not sure I understand the obsession with the Fields stans. Maybe he's been playing the wrong position all of his football career?
@@VF5The thing is he never had the opportunity to to sit on the bench and learn from a veteran quarterback.
@@LeeTraviusMcKay Well, Mitch Trub. also was forced to start the majority of his rookie year for a head coach who was on the way out the door. Why don't you make excuses for him for why he failed in Chi? Enough with the lame BS excuses and move on.
@@LeeTraviusMcKay Here's the issue, we've seen other QBs with worse teams achieve more or look more like a competent QB. Outside of running or playing a bottom 5 defense Fields looks average at best. Would it help if he could sit for a year? Maybe, being the #1 pick doesn't afford you those things. Either play well or we move on. Stroud didn't have a better situation than Fields and he looks like a much better QB.
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I think this maybe curtains for fields. He will be a journeyman like tribusky
You might be right, those dam bears QBs
Oh lord… I bet they couldn’t wait to discuss the 2 fumbles that wasn’t even Fields fault
Agree it was nate herbig when Frazier came in there was no fumble
Football 101....if its not snapped into the ground, not snapped, or snapped over the Qb head.....it's on the Qb....they must ride the ball.
@@petergavin4307 Oh because Fields went a whole 4 snaps without fumbles....so that was proof. LoL 😂
Yall don’t know or ever played football man..
Nothing ever is….
How y’all have this crazy energy when it comes to Justin fields and say he has been in the leage for 3 years but yall bend down on yall knee for Justin Hebert who hasn’t had 1 playoff win and has a 27 point half playoff choke on his resume?
Are you new ???😂 they pray on JH downfall every chance they get
Herbert showed more in his rookie year than fields has his entire career
Chargers collapsing had more to do with coaching and defense. I do believe that JF isn’t that good, but the media makes it worse. Out of all the Bears offensive players during Fields there’s only 1 player that has a starting job the season after they left.
@@Jesse-wr4rv But what have he achieved? He had been getting so many passes with 0 accomplishment. A play of choke on his resume
@@DeadricSummoner Ok so we giving all the credit when winning to Justin Hebert but when he choked it’s coaching fault?
As a bears fan, I wish Fields the best, but this performance pretty much describes most games he played in Chicago.
Another fake account lying
@@boneheadwingfield6508 not at all. I watched the kid for 3 years and never saw true improvement to be a franchise qb1.
@@Karl51729I agree with you sir I’m a giant, big and huge 🐻 fan Justin is very good to me but these are some of the problems I saw as well.
Facts
And your a bot 😂
The Bustin Fields Cult should win the gold medal for mental gymnastics at this point LOL
I agree, I think it's so funny that people keep giving Fields, "a pass" but they don't do the same for Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or Mac Jones who were all drafted in the first round the same year as Justin. Steeler fans are delusional if they think Justin Fields is their future!
"Bustin Fields" made me audibly laugh 😂
He has done nothing to deserve this many chances. Switch him to RB and call it a day.
I’m apart of his fanbase
Which is bigger than most football teams have
When did Justin ever have help?
I know Dj Moore got paid this year all because of fields
He won’t ever have a season again like he had last year with fields
@@JasonM31Receiver.
Justin missed a few games and was 1 game away from the playoffs.. If the Bears Defense was healthy in the beginning of the season.. Either way, Go Chicago 🐻
Still praying for fields he's gone be great
Praying isn't needed, hard work is what changes the situation. Not talking to yourself. If you disagree, please, test my theory. Lock yourself in a room that no one knows your at and pray for food. Then, another day, got to the store, buy food, cook it, and tell me what fills your desires better. 😉
This dudes are crazy they blaming this man for getting sacked 😂
The o line is not bad. He doesn't make reads fast enough.
You’re trash
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Because he holds the ball too long and lacks good pocket awareness.
It is a team sport Fields has to carry his side of the couch you have 3.5 to 5.5 seconds to make your reads in the NFL.
As a Bears fan, I'm so glad I can watch this and feel peace.
This team will be a playoff team rather Fields or Wilson as starter i bet that
100% not going to happen
I cant take these people seriously.
Only 2 actually played football. Acho 5 minutes on the eagles don't count 😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉😅😅😅😅😅
@@dorothyhunter4656someone playing for an NFL team doesn't count for playing for an NFL team??? I don't think anybody in your life takes you serious. 👍
@@tankeater acho a joke. 🤣😂😂😂.
@@dorothyhunter4656 never said he wasn't... What I did say, is that he played for the NFL, and to discredit the work it takes to get to that level tells me what your estrogen levels are at.
Bustin
Justin has to put it together. He is in Year 4.
This kid has it bud relax
dont worry, he'll put it together by year 14
@@dantheman8152 and with a stable organization, good supporting players AND AN OFFENSIVE LINE. He'll be fine if not then you can say he's a bust. We've witnessed over the years highly talented players end up in a bad situation, and not being able to be who they are
@@pbraga7832so the Steelers?
@@bradbaxter3343 could you really sit there and compare organizations of the Steelers and Bears and say all this time you have watched the NFL and said they're on the same level answer that first before I answer anything
The center is at fault for the fumbles.
38 fumbles in 40 games. 100% the Centers fault.
No, if you want to replay, bro, that was all on Justin he should’ve been anticipating the lean from the Center
Nope I’ve seen the same happen to Desmond ridder the center caused the fumble and he got blamed and it was his first season starting and they trashed his name and he was a 3rd round pick 🤣🤣🤣 so naw no excuse for fields
NEVER JUSTINS FAULT
@@AilmanF2PJUSTIN FANS HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR EACH OF THOSE 38 FUMBLES
I mean, people can look bad in the preseason and ball out afterwards. Remember that one Ja’marr Chase dude? One of the 10 best receivers in the league Ja’marr Chase? Yeah that guy.
yea Ja'marr Chase rookie year where he developed butter fingers. He still showed why he was good. This ain't Fields Rookie year this year 4 justin fields.
@@NPAMike that’s true, I guess the comparisons aren’t really the same, my point was more so that we shouldn’t judge Fields’ potential growth based off of the preseason.
@@zzzkun2526how about we judge Fields based off his 3 years of starting… you come to the same conclusion
Yeah, except that was Chase's rookie year and Fields FOURTH in the League. We know all we need to know about Justin Fields--he's a TERRIBLE NFL QB,
Yeah but Justin is bad during the regular season too. There’s not a shortage of tape
Really Solid Conversation .... Thanks..
Fields didnt turn the ball over. Did they watch the game?
They watched.....they know the difference unlike some.
Exactly…They said he fumbled 😂
@@QRobNYC and both were recoverd. That is NOT a turnover.
@@MG-bv3vu Exactly bozo they never said he turned the ball over they said he fumbled theres a difference genius
@@MG-bv3vudoesn't matter he fumbled twice
Joy is right....Fields just "not that good" at QB. Solid backup career/ qb run plays
JF fans just try to wish him to be good in existence so hard it’s pathetic!
JUSTIN FIELDS....THEY SCORED 12 POINTS IN PRESEASON AND LOST
Exactly these clowns will say anything to spread hope about fields. He's horrific and his fans are not here for football.....
Boyyyyyy these dudes b looking str8 trying not to look at JOYS WATERMELON JUGS😂😂😂
Yes because fumbles and sacks are all on the QB. U folks can'r be this "smart".
They said he got like 38 fumbles in 40 games, u gotta listen up cuz
@@JTZIII lol...preseason with a center barely on the roster.
Fumble is on the qb. You have to protect the football at all costs I don’t care if it’s a free rusher you have to hold on to the ball
Caleb Williams looked average but sadly fields looked awful. The media will run with it.
@@MG-bv3vuon a new team too😅. But i do understand Justin Fields has a history of fumbling and picks. So they are right in a sense
Negative, James is a Fields fan, friend. Joy is correct, Fields isn't a rookie, 38 fumbles in 3 years, demonstrate growth now. Wilson is starting next preseason game, Fields was suppose to start next preseason game, Fields will be in a different industry after 2025 season; Tomlin saw enough. Aedin
Why is it that you all want Fields to be great, but NOT Wilson?
Because Wilson isn’t ghetto
Those lost games werent all his fault for crying out loud ...
Thank you James for your take!
Bring back the whole “audio version” I want to listen to the whole episode at times. If y’all could
You can find complete episodes in most podcast apps/websites. hope that helps
@@ayananewton5571 true but I pay for TH-cam premium and I’m using it to its fullest. I also have Hulu live tv. But I can’t watch it when I’m working
As a bears fan Fields is straight trash we seen in for 3 years
i totally disagree woth Joy! Fields never had a real QB coach
James is a definition of a rider💯 Respect
Weren’t LeSean and Joy going goo goo gaga over Caleb Williams going 4-7 95yards with a 13 yard rush? Now they want to bash Justin Fields because of two fumbles which weren’t even on him at all and they still recovered both.
and the gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to...
Man you Justin Fields fanboys are worst than the Tebow fanboys from the 2010s lol
Justin fields played w/ the 1st team offense 4 all of 10 days & went 6/7
& the rookie ot got KILLED
Caleb is also a ROOKIE
@@romello4913 And y’all listen to anything the media says
I don’t think people get the idea that Russ’s 2023 stats would’ve potentially gotten the Steelers into the SB. And no, Russ isn’t declined. He’s not washed. He still has his stuff! He needed better support.
This woman schooled and educated all you men at the table on 🏈 football 😮😂
How much she pay you, or you are her. Nobody thinks that but u
@@boneheadwingfield6508her knockers are clouding his judgment 😅
What's crazy is the fact that this show gives Russell Wilson so many flowers. When they say "we've seen three years of Justin Fields" without acknowledging that we've seen the last 3-4 seasons of Russell Wilson TOO! And no, RW was not "good" last year. That's looking at stats without watching the games.
I can tell this panel doesn’t know anything. You had a guard at C again with barely any snaps and a rookie RT missing a block. The comments were not even aimed towards Fields. The center who started the game just got benched for a rookie. Please start adding context to these conversations
Explain 38 fumbles in 40 games
@@tristingarcia5718 look at the team around him in Chicago
@@JayEasler the team around him is responsible for him dropping the ball? Fumbling is an individual responsibility
@@tristingarcia5718135 sacks in 40 games…. Fumbling isn’t an “individual responsibility” of the QB.
@@tristingarcia5718THE BEARS. Is that NOT enough?????
Hold on. This is exactly how fields looked in chicago. Big negative plays that stahled drives. Then completed passes to wide open receivers. He is C player in his 4th year.
Russell Wilson is a great QB and been to more superbowls than everybody in the NFL right now at this moment other than Mahommes.
... Hasn't been in over 10 yrs...
The last one Wilson threw into coverage on a 2nd and goal when he should have thrown out of the end zone and go to 3rd down.
At best R Wilson gets Steelers to a Wildcard game... History shows he has never won an away playoff game.
@Lutherson1962 I told no lies, but since u wwnt to sound like a bias television analysts. Russell Wilson threw he 8th most touchdowns out of 50 QBs. 26 to be exact like ur 10 years. Drops mic. Only 7 players had more touchdown passes than Wilson last season, and he was benched for multiple games cause he didn't want to change his contract.
@@Lutherson1962 history's shows he is and will forever be better than Kenny Pickett, so if u wasn't talking about Kenny his entire career, then zip it.
Joy be the only female that really be sayin sumn. I'll give her that. She do love football fa real
It’s amazing that joy knows and sees better then everyone on the show
She has to have a lot of patience on this show. I personally couldn’t work with dummies, it’s frustrating just watching.
Joy is so lost and needs to shut up
Bro what? Was u born last night…….she is terrible
Joy is freaking annoying and arrogant. Tell former players she has to teach them about football. Gtfoh
Foh 😂😂😂
The disrespect throwing at both quarterbacks is overwhelming
I just find it HILARIOUS how much people try to defend Justin Fields 😂😂😂😂
That kid is a Runningback that can throw far and run 😂😂🤔🤔
He can't do anything else that QBs should be able to do...
100 percent
Mannn shady sparing them. They was up here saying Fields was goin make a Jalen Hurts jump last year.
Yea they did claim that BS saying he's a bigger more athletic version of him
They are going 2 eat these words.............
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I can’t wait cause ima troll them so heavily
@@boneheadwingfield6508 bruh, there will B some kind of live taping somewhere, & I’m showing up 2 disrupt the whole thing 4 fields
I know fields got an answer from a woman that left shady on red😂
Joy must have crush on fields like what did he do to you .? The man is 25 with a lot of potential still left I could name numerous of QB’s that was trash they first 3/4 years but after that they was solid if not great QB’s… Geno smith,drew Brees, Peyton manning, Eli manning, phillp rivers ,Jared Goff, Matthew stafford , the list goes on .
Up and down season for the Steelers 😂 coming from a Ravens Fan
Not if Russ healthy
You haven’t seen Russ. I don’t believe for one second that he is too injured to play. I think they don’t want to risk him being injured for real, and they want the noise about Fields being the starter to stop!
Russ is going to tear up the division.
As a Chief’s fan, I’ll laugh so hard if they beat the Ravens twice this year.
James is correct about Fields. James excellent Job
Ocho was missed
@asenatus1 no he wasn't. He a hater 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
You mean Acho
Naw his hella corny
Not at all but James was
he was? by who?
Let him know babygirl,we still got this ,Steeler Nation for life…we good
Fields is trash bruh idk how much more yall need to see
They hate Justin so much it’s sad
Impossible for him to beat Russ
He already has
@@Tawknmysht 😆 In turnovers!!!
@@vonalleyrottweilers7660 That's cap and you know it he's been playing better than russ this whole camp lol
@@vonalleyrottweilers7660 the best ability is…
@@vonalleyrottweilers7660 coach T said they haven’t made a decision on the starter yet
Kenny Pickett had the perfect preseason last year and we know how that turned out. Fields had 3 different offenses, different OCs, and different HCs. Fields haven’t had consistent play callers.
Fields career may be over if he doesn’t convert into a Taysom hill
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There have been only 3 black quarterbacks who have won Super Bowls. That includes Doug Williams, Russel Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. I wonder why that is? There have been 56 Super bowls total. I find it interesting statistically speaking. What are the characteristics that make up a quarterback who will win the Super Bowl? I know it is a team sport though. Maybe Justin Fields will get better as a back up for Russell Wilson and they can win another Super bowl.
Well since 1999 you had more to lose a Superbowl being Steve McNair, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Patrick Mahomes, and Jalen Hurts.
@@andrebryant5081 What do you mean by that? You stated, " You had more to loose...". I totally wanted both Steve McNair and Daute Culpepper to win a Super Bowl.
What’s crazy is it’s preseason! From what I’ve seen Fields looks better in passing. He still has things to iron out like the 2 sacks and 2 fumbles.
But to say all the bad and no good is crazy to me. He had solid NFL completions that we rarely seen in Chicago. That matters as well.
But they also bash Herbert.
Looks like same ol Justin Fields though. Which isnt going to excite anybody.
Year 4 and you're praising him for making an NFL completion against insurance salesman??? Wow... GenZ ideology at it's finest...
It being preseason is the problem. This is when he should look good
@@carbon.the.christ5626The Steelers started Justin Fields for two reasons: 1. Russell was injured. 2. So they can see what his strengths and weaknesses are.
Do Chicago fans really think fields is good?
Yall not talking about the fact that they had a SECOND STRING GUARD starting at center for fields. Cmon bruh 🤣🤣
Why are they not talking about how they had a guard at center 🤦🏻♂️
38 fumbles in 40 starts, unless the Center did that 38 times or came from the Bears the issue might just be the QB.
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@@AilmanF2Pfumbles don’t mean botched snaps
Fields fumbles were from his oline giving him the least time 2 throw n the nfl
@@AilmanF2Pjust like I asked the other million trolls like yourself, WHEN DID THE BEARS PROTECT JUSTIN. His FIRST start he was sacked NINE times. God u ppl are stupid
@@AilmanF2Pif you are right why can’t you address the situation at hand. That has zero to do with a guard playing center
As a Bears fan, I'm disappointed his fumbling issues are still there. I mean some of it is on the center but he had the same issues just holding onto the ball here.
They were both on the center they were both at the snap and there was no fumbling when a real center not back up guard was switched in
As a Bears fan that took up for Fields , I can finally admit that he definitely was the problem
Right not your organization ?
Honestly the sacks he took in that game were honestly the unforgivable part. He walked into them.
Joy smacking folks in the face with obvious facts and truth. 😆😆 These guys are just silly.
She has had the best take on him for two years
As a Bears fan I can say, this is who Justin Fields is. He's the guy who give you just enough hope to keep saying, "maybe maybe maybe", but he never comes through in the clutch. He can't read a defense, holds the ball the longest in the NFL. Joy Taylor and Shady making the most sense here.
There were receivers running the WRONG ROUTES. these folks are unqualified to comment.
Congrats on the DUMBEST comment of 2024. There’s 3 former NFL players on the show but somehow they are unqualified to comment 😂. What NFL or college football did you play or coach lol?
@@manifestra2003 James Jones is the only one who knows what he's talking about. Stop hugging nut And think for yourselfs...
@@manifestra2003 Receiver's were running the wrong routes for 3 years, amazing how WRs before they went to the Bears were never running the wrong routes. Only on TH-cam can you hear such nonsense. 🤡
Log off bro
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Yea she know what she talking about. I want to see fields develop. But right now we gotta go with winning ball games thats russ.
Buddy was 5-6 for 67 yards and his center fumbled twice 😂😂😂. They really hating on buddy watering down his game.
QBs are responsible for fumbles if the ball doesn’t go directly into the ground or over their head coming from the center. He has 38 fumbles in 40 games. Safe to say he has the issue
And was really 6/6
@@tristingarcia5718no they not even a center will tell u that he more responsible for placing the ball correctly
Exactly he made two amazing throws and his one incompletion was called out out of bounds with two feet down
@tristingarcia5718 yea and he had 0 center/QB exchange fumbles before the other night. Don't get caught up watching this biased show and lose context on how the fumbles happen. There is a difference between trying to do a little too much and fumbling which he is guilty of vs QB/center exchange fumble which he never had before the other day. It was clearly on the center which is why they took the center out right after and he miraculous didn't fumble again lol. The center that fumbled is a guard that they're converting to a center lol. Again dude made every pass. They neglect to mention that smh.
I don’t have any issue with people having an opinion that Justin feels isn’t that good. But in Sadies case he never gave concrete detailed reasons as to why. He would just reference yards/ TD stats and say what has he done.
Dam acho get off of shadys nuts u didn't even quote marcellus Wylie like that 😂
As bad as sports analysts are this show is one of the only ones that make sense. I like how they can actually agree to disagree as well
There o line looks suspect 😮
That won’t be the starting OL.
Never seen a QB get more excuses for being sorry
Do y’all want Russ to fail or what?
Joy don’t or shady .. do you ?
Acho seems to, James Jones too.
The length of these episodes is 👌👌
sean payton withOUT BREES is @$$ & taysum hill was NEVER a good qb STOP acho
Exactly
u a russel fanboy
Taysom Hill never had media fan boys saying it racist if he dosent get a shot.
1. The center said the fumbles were 100% his fault. 2. The other 2 bad plays were sacks. So it’s safe to say atleast 2/4 of the bad plays were not his fault. So let’s not freak out over 2 bad plays in preseason. Especially when the guy went 6/7 passing 😩🤦🏾♂️
Joy is too fine❤❤
facts. she looks amazing in that blue.
Melons 🥺
You need to realize young lady he was under 3 horrible coaching staffs that failed him in development ... thats what you dont want to admit..
And i have been a bears fan from the wound birn and raised on the southside of englewood where always up to no good period ... justin will be asuper star in this league ... and im standing on that ...
When you're wrong then what
Do Joy and Shady ever disagree on anything ? Good goe they’re so annoying
What's wrong with that?
Joy is always completely on point when it comes to the NFL. If Wilson simply doesn't lose games, the Steelers are going to be fine. He will make a few throws, each game, that will keep the offense moving, that defense will lock folks up, and Russ will only need to provide 21-24 pts a game and Pittsburgh is going to win 10+games, with a potential playoff win.
That would be a huge step in the right direction for the franchise.
Joy said the same thing she always look at Shady for approval when Shady don't agree she sad
@jessejackson762 Shady must be hitting it real good.😂😂😂
Joy need to be fired frfr
Joy is a smoke show
Joy is annoying and shouldn't be paid to talk about a game she never played a snap of.
Imagine an NFL 3 yr starting quarterback playing against basic defenses and not looking good. This is JF!
I can’t listen to Joy
She makes the show unwatchable
Nah ur just a misogynist lol grow up
Soooo the bears line couldn't block now the steelers line can r block .. hmmmmm fields is the problem
Tomlin is a genius. Mike is getting the noise out of the way early. Mitch was the vet and Kenny was the “new guy”. He played the vet first and it backfired with the fans yelling “Kenny”! I was one of them. Now he is letting everyone see that the “young guy” is not ready. Russ will be fine. He’s better than what we had. Stop comparing him to other QB’s. We Are The Pittsburgh Steelers. Sit back and watch! Here We Go!
*Here are Russ’s 2023 numbers (in 15 games, not 17).*
3,070 Yards
26 TDs
3 Rushing TDs (341 yards, 386 equiv.)
8 INTs
66.4% Complete
78.8% Adjusted Complete Rate.
98 Passer Rating
*Russ’s 2023 Rankings:*
1st in Fourth Qtr comebacks (4)
1st in Game-Winning Drives (4)
2nd in Adj. Completion Rate (78.8%)*
2nd in TD% (5.9)
4th in Completion Differentials
5th in TD-INT Ratio (26:8)
7th in Passer Rating (98.0)
9th in TDs (26)
9th in INT Rate (1.8)
10th in INTs among qualified QBs (8)
11th in Completion% (66.4%)
According to Sports Info Solutions (SIS), Russ’s arm is as deadly as ever!
He completed six passes that flew 40+ air yards past the original line of scrimmage (for 301 yards), good for #1 in the league. Four of those six went for TDs, and the two that didn’t were attributed as drops by the targeted receivers.
Russ attempted 16 such passes, and 10 were deemed on target by SIS.
Of those 16 attempts, not a single one resulted in an interception.
Russ had one of the league’s top deep-ball passer ratings, had one of the highest season-long 4th quarter passer ratings, and led the league in red zone efficiency for half the season.
He also rushed for 341 yards in 15 games, which is the equivalent of 386 yards over 17 games, or 220%+ times the rush yards of the average NFL QB. That was with Sean Payton suppressing his numbers. Russ is still capable of rushing for 400-500 yards.
That’s ELITE!
You cannot be washed and do these things.
He also had 4 of the top-5 least probable completions and led the Broncos to a #1 red zone performance rating for half the season.