India is effed up high time. Ban conversion therapy! PS: Madras high court banned conversion therapy and is applicable pan india still an exclusive law is needed high time!
damn, I hope they're ok now, this is why we need trans friendly society and ban conversion therapy in the first place and OMG congratulations to them for completing 6 months of HRT, best of luck for your future ahead!!
@Goblin Slayer First of all what you're talking is completely off topic Second of all i insist you to first look at your aukat and then speak about ours And if you're looking for someone to fight with plz go find somewhere else coz this channel is just spreading love and awareness
almost the same thing happened to me, but instead of my parents finally understanding, i had to go back into the closet bc they threatened to marry me off to a guy at 18....
@アルテミスアポロヘラセイド not all transgender are gay/straight there are Bisexual transgender Pansexual transgender Omnisexual transgender Asexual transgender Polysexual transgender Trisexual transgender Etc
Seeing this situation we all could wish that there would be a gender change machine that can properly change with proper private parts that would be a dream come true for all trans people out there
Madras court made them illegal but since no law has been passed by government following the judgement So these therapies are still widely practiced unfortunately 😞
I am sorry but why are you calling the person a 'patient' ? They don't have any health conditions. It's just who they are. But thanks for speaking about this
Wait Now. If gender roles and gender preferences are a social construct, like boys playing with cars and girls playing with dolls etc and etc. And if boys and girls are the same, then why call a girl who wants to play with boy toys or wants to wear boy clothes trans?? If gender roles and gender preferences are social construct then why??? See the contradiction here??
Yes I get your point and I disagree with the parents who get their children transitioned at a very young age because their son was Playing with dolls. Children don't fully understand what it means to be trans. Parents can make temporary changes like letting their son wear frocks if he consistently says he feels like a girl, but I believe the permanent changes should not be done until the child is atleast 15-16 because gender disphoria is most prominent at that age and they become clear on their gender identity P.s the parents who say their child is trans because he plays with dolls are psuedo feminists and hypocrites
@@sup4818 you partly understood my point. The other part is that if gender roles and gender preferences are social construct then transgenderism makes no sense. So either you have to admit that gender preferences are not a social construct and become an anti feminist or you have to admit that gender differences are a social construct, and become self delusiona and contradict yourself, because if they are social constructs then what's the difference between trans and cis man or woman they are all the same. Or you could admit that gender preferences are biological and gender is not a spectrum and solve the problem. Choice is yours...
Lol, gender roles preferences aren't a part of the "social construct". Genders are just a biological system of grouping population. And, "boys playing with caes and girls playing with dolls" are just stereotypes, again not "social construct". Playing with cars and dolls, doesn't have a gender. But, the body/mind of an individual does have gender. Thus, genders (trans and cis) exist.
How do you explain the countless success stories of people who have been healed and now lead normal lives? It's obvious that this therapy works. It just needs to be applied properly.
‘Healed’ ‘normal lives’ Are you calling lgbtq+ people sick and disabled or something? If you think this therapy works then you’re disgusting,truly. Those people went through trauma. Nobody needs that therapy,nobody deserves that therapy. Those people are just living their lives,NORMAL lives. Their sexuality and indentity doesn’t change the fact that they’re humans just like us. It doesn’t matter if someone changed who they are with this therapy,it should be illegal.
If being gay or trans is completely normal, how come these people have considerably higher rates of depression, drug use and suicide? And that this doesn't lower even in the most of accepting countries in the world? The actual evidence shows that this is a dangerous lifestyle. As such it's no wonder that many people don't want to live that way. Why shouldn't these people be allowed access to therapy to accomplish their own goals?
@@absolutelypitiful3837did you know that black people also had higher suicide numbers? Is being black not normal? Your reasoning is based on numbers caused by untreated gender dysphoria and hate and you are somehow twisting that to mean that they should stay untreated and hated. Wtf is that logic?
not so hard in Thailand...why? The country is 95% Buddhist and the Buddhists do not have any great hatred or rejection of LGBTQ+ people in general. Unfortunately, things are often worse in other countries, where religious groups of all stripes show their hatred and contempt. Religions are often more of a curse than a blessing. Let's hope for a future in which more and more people distinguish humbug from reality and trade their knowledge in the spirit of more humanity and brotherhood
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India is effed up high time. Ban conversion therapy! PS: Madras high court banned conversion therapy and is applicable pan india still an exclusive law is needed high time!
Yup
im so happy to see such open minded and educated professionals exist, kinda restores my faith in humanity :")
That's why I'm not coming out till I'm financially independent.
Same..
Good luck
All the best
Same
Same bro
This is harrowing to see how conversion therapies thrives with impunity. Access to healthcare is so fundamental yet so distant.
damn, I hope they're ok now, this is why we need trans friendly society and ban conversion therapy in the first place
and OMG congratulations to them for completing 6 months of HRT, best of luck for your future ahead!!
Therapy is literally the first step in treating gender dysphoria, ya dingus
I appreciate the use of They/them pronouns
@@neelamyadav1226 yayyy! We are everywhere
Yes normalise using they/them pronounce
Also Oii Oii✨
SAME
@Goblin Slayer First of all what you're talking is completely off topic
Second of all i insist you to first look at your aukat and then speak about ours
And if you're looking for someone to fight with plz go find somewhere else coz this channel is just spreading love and awareness
@@khushi_a8399 Let them be. People like them will never understand. They are still used to living in 11th century.
almost the same thing happened to me, but instead of my parents finally understanding, i had to go back into the closet bc they threatened to marry me off to a guy at 18....
Im sorry to hear that
I hope they come around..
You're so strong..
Be brave bro...a few more years till you become financially independent (if you aren't already)
@アルテミスアポロヘラセイド not all transgender are gay/straight there are
Bisexual transgender
Pansexual transgender
Omnisexual transgender
Asexual transgender
Polysexual transgender
Trisexual transgender
Etc
This must have been such a difficult journey. I'm glad they're living life on their own terms now.
Seeing this situation we all could wish that there would be a gender change machine that can properly change with proper private parts that would be a dream come true for all trans people out there
Such an important and informational series. Thank you team Swaddle :)
The Unlicensed Self Proclaimed Doctor who performed the conversion therapy for the mentioned patient in the video was Dr. Kailash Mantry I suppose?
do conversion therapy centres exist in india? the way they do in the US?
Unfortunately
How is such 'therapy' legal?
Madras court made them illegal but since no law has been passed by government following the judgement
So these therapies are still widely practiced unfortunately 😞
I am sorry but why are you calling the person a 'patient' ?
They don't have any health conditions. It's just who they are.
But thanks for speaking about this
The person being spoken about is a patient of the psychiatrist, Dr. Pandey. That's why he refers to him as his patient.
This sounds a lot like the John/Joan Case.
👍🏽
Wait Now. If gender roles and gender preferences are a social construct, like boys playing with cars and girls playing with dolls etc and etc. And if boys and girls are the same, then why call a girl who wants to play with boy toys or wants to wear boy clothes trans?? If gender roles and gender preferences are social construct then why??? See the contradiction here??
Yes I get your point and I disagree with the parents who get their children transitioned at a very young age because their son was Playing with dolls. Children don't fully understand what it means to be trans. Parents can make temporary changes like letting their son wear frocks if he consistently says he feels like a girl, but I believe the permanent changes should not be done until the child is atleast 15-16 because gender disphoria is most prominent at that age and they become clear on their gender identity
P.s the parents who say their child is trans because he plays with dolls are psuedo feminists and hypocrites
@@sup4818 gender dysphonies is different from playing with toys
@@marytc2714 I know I never said it's the same
I actually disagreed that if a boy plays with dolls he is necessarily a trans girl
@@sup4818 you partly understood my point. The other part is that if gender roles and gender preferences are social construct then transgenderism makes no sense. So either you have to admit that gender preferences are not a social construct and become an anti feminist or you have to admit that gender differences are a social construct, and become self delusiona and contradict yourself, because if they are social constructs then what's the difference between trans and cis man or woman they are all the same.
Or you could admit that gender preferences are biological and gender is not a spectrum and solve the problem. Choice is yours...
Lol, gender roles preferences aren't a part of the "social construct". Genders are just a biological system of grouping population. And, "boys playing with caes and girls playing with dolls" are just stereotypes, again not "social construct".
Playing with cars and dolls, doesn't have a gender. But, the body/mind of an individual does have gender. Thus, genders (trans and cis) exist.
Women men like plants sometimes with one exemption.
Doctors playing god and making hybrid humans.
your IQ ??? poor Men !!
How do you explain the countless success stories of people who have been healed and now lead normal lives?
It's obvious that this therapy works. It just needs to be applied properly.
Your joking right?
@@navamikumar5804 the literal first step in treatment gender dysphoria is therapy (and letting puberty do it's thing)
‘Healed’ ‘normal lives’
Are you calling lgbtq+ people sick and disabled or something?
If you think this therapy works then you’re disgusting,truly. Those people went through trauma. Nobody needs that therapy,nobody deserves that therapy. Those people are just living their lives,NORMAL lives. Their sexuality and indentity doesn’t change the fact that they’re humans just like us. It doesn’t matter if someone changed who they are with this therapy,it should be illegal.
If being gay or trans is completely normal, how come these people have considerably higher rates of depression, drug use and suicide? And that this doesn't lower even in the most of accepting countries in the world?
The actual evidence shows that this is a dangerous lifestyle. As such it's no wonder that many people don't want to live that way. Why shouldn't these people be allowed access to therapy to accomplish their own goals?
@@absolutelypitiful3837did you know that black people also had higher suicide numbers? Is being black not normal?
Your reasoning is based on numbers caused by untreated gender dysphoria and hate and you are somehow twisting that to mean that they should stay untreated and hated. Wtf is that logic?
not so hard in Thailand...why?
The country is 95% Buddhist and the Buddhists do not have any great hatred or rejection of LGBTQ+ people in general.
Unfortunately, things are often worse in other countries, where religious groups of all stripes show their hatred and contempt.
Religions are often more of a curse than a blessing. Let's hope for a future in which more and more people distinguish humbug from reality and trade their knowledge in the spirit of more humanity and brotherhood
Thank God someone's talking about bias from medical staff...