Counter Strike's Most Unfortunate Map
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Since you like it so much here is a green screen version of the Cobblestone emblem thing free to use. You don't have to credit me
drive.google.com/file/d/12JJ12-Vy79x5hU2zfIdLZPC66PuFviB2/view?usp=sharing
Can you do a video on the classic Aztec map? Is Ancient a rework of it?
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That intro graphic for the map emblem was sweet.
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I wonder who did it?
i kept replaying it was so satisfying wtf if only valve hired people like that
On the workshop it says "Cobblestone is official content that is included in Counter-Strike 2" TELL ANOTHER FUCKING LIE VALVE!
well.. it is - you can play it, just not in the "competitive pool"
soo... fuck you for being dumb bruh
that deer going crazy in the cbbl intro graphic.
nothing can compare to what happened to the hostage casual community with the cs2 "release" we have lost some of the best maps and more importantly the majority of the community has left for good. being stuck in a loop with office and italy is an actual mental battle if you had played those maps back in the day with all the options and now have no choice but to just leave the game or deal with soul crushing nostalgia for the past glory days of 10v10 lobbies playing assualt, militia, and insertion maps.
cobble is already being worked on for cs2. cant say the same for hostage mode maps and the 10 year communities valve shutdown. i will never forget how much fun i had growing up on there. [playing daily since i was 14, i am now 26.]
Militia was awesome
the memories i have from "page 2" maps in csgo mm will live with me forever. I miss them too man. about the same age range too.
Insertion with friends and randoms is chaos and I love it
I truly miss agency and I just hope they add a hostage map with cache there next operation
Yeah man. The way they handled csgo was horrible.
i want cache and lake back
Most original opinion I've ever heard.
i love lake and rialto
me who wants assault and militia back : 💀💀
Lake would be sick
This
I really appreciated the longer distances of cobble. In my opinion that really set the sniper rifles and automatic rifles apart.
You should make a video about the history of the Counter-Strike competitive map pool, it would be very interesting.
Also, based on leaks, it looks like Valve still not give up on Cobblestone in CS2, they attempt to remake the map with a winter theme, there still hope.
what's there to love about Cobblestone?
AWP | Dragon Lore
the m4a1-s knight is a solid skin too. I thought it was a fun casual map back in the day as a comp map though it's not really balanced
god tier editing
FUCK THE CURRENT MAP POOL
My fondest memories are of playing casual in CS:GO cobblestone, sunk like 200h in this one setting. Still don’t regret any of them. Hope the map comes to CS2.
i loved the 2015-2018 version of cobble without that weird b drop area and before the halloween update and im sure there are other people who hold it dearly
2015 cbbl best cbbl, before they completely butchered my baby.
Funny stuff, the clip from GK (Gatekeepers) versus Matrix, I was one of the guys who formed Gatekeepers, and it was my idea for us to specialize in cbble, making strats for it, by the time this iteration of the team was running, I wasn't there anymore.
Dude i love your channel so much keep it up !
Rush B problems of all maps had the same issue(like vertigo), but cobble was not fixed😢
Dude! you're getting better at this every video, absolutely love seeing the progress, keep it going, every upload is a banger!
this is such a well made video!
Great script, structure, editing and animation. This is the kind of video that makes me push for a much higher standard in my own videos.
I remember just looking after every update in GO if something changed to Cobble or if some small detail was added, only to again wish for next update to fix something else i found when exploring. Man, i miss that map now...
Next update: Valve introduces "Forge" with a Scout Dragon Lore :D
I remember being thrilled with de_cbble way back when it was new, but I don't think anything could save its fundamental flaws any more than you could with de_aztec. A sequel like Ancient (ie de_aztec2, or more accurately de_maya) would be a better way to salvage the spirit of de_cbble.
oh god the noclip / hand motion is rough to watch, in css you got yaw speed so if you aren't gunna use the fancy camera stuff you can turnbind at a low yaw to get nice cinematic shots.
csgo t5mat made 3rd party turn binds
no clue about cs2 though as I know their surf scene is still trying to establish itself
Cobblestone is forever goated, my favourite map in the entire pool and will always be in my heart. I heard that they are planning to rework it for cs2 and this makes me so happy
I recently fell in love with the charm of cbble, playing mostly on source. It was a great letdown for me when I tried booting up cs:go beta but it wouldn't even came on, and now learning from your video that it was removed from the game completely. I still like certain parts of the map and I hope to incorporate the more favourable elements into my own maps
The 2017 version of cobble really fun to play in lower to mid elos. (FaceIt LvL 5-6)
The 2018 halloween update ruined it for me and many others.
The problem with Cobble is the outside area, between T spawn and the bombsides entrance, which is large and meaningless, in 1.6 or even CSGO. One of the Map based off Cobble in competitive 1.6 was de_forged. It was a fun map which some of the ideas was good with 2 seperated entranced to each bombside, but still the main problem wasn't solved at all. Well Aztec was remade into Ancient, then maybe Valve can remade Cobble too.
I think we can all agree aztec was completely unbalanced and not viable for competitive (let alone the active duty pool) but ancient has no verticality and is hellishly boring to watch or play so I think a revamp would be better than a new map entirely
Fantastic video sir . Very well made
im only a little over a minute in and i already love the editing bro
sick video
Cobblestone reached its peak when it became the map to have the most rare/expensive skin drop during operations, the Awp dragon lore. Other than that, the map was OK, right in the middle if you want to put it in that way.
It’s funny how when dust 2 and cobblestone were in the rotation for years everyone was complaining about how those maps sucked. Now that they’re gone at least cobblestone right now, everyone is crying to have it back
Cbble was never competitively viable. Fun map sure I definitely agree but i can't see it return to the comp pool without basically redoing the whole map. Like what Ancient is to Aztec. Which is highly likely to happen.
If we want to bring some old maps again to the pool i'd vouch for Season like come on why is this map forgotten it was so good
My guess that Cobblestone will also receive the Vertigo's treatment. Of course there will be some big major changes but it doesn't seem to the point like Aztec/Ancient, but hey who know.
@@naufalt.a8796 yeah it could go vertigo's way as well
Is that heat map from pros or all players? It really surprised me though because, whilst yes, B is the favourable site with 3 CTs going there and 2 towards A. I'd like to recall A as a site that was contested a fair bit as well. Both in pro play and in my own games (MM all ranks from silver to GE). My only issue with the pre-Halloween update was how far away and big T spawn was. Like 1/3 of the map was just a saving spot around the T spawn. So yeah the big map made for longer games, but I thought it was a fun, balanced and competitive map.
Hey did you upload a video called "TEAM FORTRESS 64" ?
Very high quality edit/ video
I'd love the Cobblestone right before the Halloween update, but with the Halloween theme. I miss this map.
Number 15: Burger king foot lettuce. The last thing you'd want in your Burger King burger is someone's foot fungus.
Needs a remake as a snow map
Putting Dust back in without a rework and moving Overpass which was designed for CS2 is a crazy move
Let's not forget that cobble was in CS:GO wingman and GOATED in that gamemode. CS2, where are the maps??? D:
older rulesets and different ideas about what constitutes "balanced" affect competitive viability. 3 minute rounds and the economy settings prior to shaGuar's proposed changes going into effect make cbble a different map. the idea that every map is "balanced" if a team gets to play both halves made for interesting matchups on the ones where getting 3 or 4 rounds T-side was considered an "okay" half (train, fire, cbble). it made pistol rounds more important on those maps, interesting matchups in leagues depending on who had which starting side that week. i won't gripe too much about how things are worse now, but in a league setting or a double elim LAN tourney, with 1:45 or 2:00 minute rounds and the normal 1.6 ruleset, "ct-sided" maps like cbble are completely competitively viable.
edit: oh yeah, the molotov negating spawn-based rushes also made any "ct-sided" map like this no longer an option.
i miss it and train so much bros 😭
They could have just kept the pre halloween version in MM for the avg gamer man
Will never forget my first Global Uprank on Cobble ^^
I'd love to see a video about de_basalt as well, I mean, expressing your opinion about the map, I love that one! Also... Insertion (1 and/or 2) by Oskmos.
Dang... i remember good days of 2015-16 playing this. Im glad i was part of it. Now i dont play CS anymore, idk what they try to do with it but its in a very sad state...
I think cbble will come back, chicken coup is a legendary spot similar to goose on dust2.
But I would rather prefer train and cache to come back, lets see what this summer will bring for cs2.
Cobble got added in the WINTER Offensive update… CS2 leaks show that the new Cobble will be winter-themed, hmm….
I want a castle map again man. Castles are cool
More videos like this would be cool, maybe a video about train
3:46 Lemme get this straight, cobble then is inferno now?
what does the de_ before every map mean?
Defuse. Holdover from the days of different map types in competitive.
🥲Maybe your best vid. Gj.
Miss this map soo much
0:05 bro got hung from nowhere in inferno RIP
And thus no more Souvenir Dragon Lore Drops
I hope Valve adds this map to CS2, along with some more maps for hostage mode.
Cobblestone was my favort around 2017-2018. CSGO hasn't been the same since.
Cobble was always so fun to clutch on
Old cobblestone was my favourite map back in 2016/17, then they ruined it and shortly after straight up removed it
The amount of memories..
2015-17 Cbble, good times.
Cobble definitely has its place in CS. Mythic like tho. almost like CS_office
cobble has always been one of the best and most fair maps for hvh
I really liked cobblestone! But damn do I miss cpl_mill/tuscan as well. I don't understand why that map isn't just copied over to cs2 yet. I feel it's a PERFECT kinda map for cs2 as well. AND we could get more "DOOR STUCK" clips!
Cobble: Another good map that people would rather eschew in favor of the same tired old lame maps like Dust2 forever
So sad what they did to cbble in tha halloween update, I miss it to this day, such a great map.
even in casual nobody voted for it and if everyone went afk and cobble somehow got picked we would just join another lobby because ain't no way we watching a game of hide and seek wile the last person hides in a corner somewhere
Old Cobble is GOATED
I never liked cobblestone, the only redeeming aspects were a the novelty of a 1 way drop push for Ts and castle aesthetic.
I'd rather see a new castle with new ideas not a cluster of objectively bad old ideas and poorly thought out new ones loosely cobbled together.
I miss the tower.
I loved this map and many old maps …
I miss maps from 2016 i remeber a map on a chip or seson
Cobblestone is the greatest CS map ever made. Would trade Mirage, Ancient and Anubis for that.
am i tripping balls or in the first second of the vid he kinda sounded like the whisper part of polyphia playing God
Its finally here
It's been over 6 months, valve please update the map pool!!!
Just watched your stream🎉🎉
I miss Cobblestone, Cache Train :(
Change to csgo cobble is massive
I'm always lost because so much has changed
I’ll cry if cobble come back no cap
Dust1, Aztec, Assault?
I loved cobble in cs go 🥺
The way you said cstl and cbbl got me dead 💀😂
Slowly but surely Valve managed to remove all of the best maps except for Nuke.
Certified hood classic
Best map, what games I've seen... Insane...
God,i miss the old cobble...
cbble should never come back to competitive play, they have tried so many times and it always fails because the layout just doesnt allow for it, and if you change too much it just loses its essence and there wont even be a point in the first play, youre just stuck with a below average map that no longer even holds on to what made it special and nostalgic. I do think they should bring it back for casual and competitive play, but just not premiere or pro play
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This map design doesn't fit for competitive 5x5 play, it was meant for public servers 16x16. Just my opinion, but for competitive map to be succesful it has to be medium size, it shouldnt have lots of open areas from which you can be killed from side or back. That's why corridor styled maps like cs_office are fun to play on and popular. Dust 2 and de_inferno are great as well and have good balance. New maps created during CS:GO era are least popular because of too many catacombs, too many open areas, too large, they tick every point of being awful. Maybe they would work in another games like call of duty but not in CS where time to kill is super fast. We need all these maps to be played on public servers where you play for fun and not that serious about your game. CS:S shipped ready with all maps remastered, not sure why porting CS:GO maps was that difficult, later on they could just improve visuals and map design further like they did with inferno.
Bring back cobble, train and cache.
ok guys its been fucking 23 years of cs for me and i cry looking this maps wtf is this.
just bring the map back to wingman. wingman only has 4 maps and they get boring quick, use wingman to balance the sites and see how the map could be improved
Maan I miss cobblestone soo much. 😢
without watching this video i will say it
Cobblestone would not be that missed IF not the cobblestone skin collection.
People want cobblestone back with hope of seeing Cobblestone collection in skin drop and / or as souvenir GUARANTEE drops
I will say this - IF Valve would bring back Cobblestone that people "missed the most" (Apple and Snax is hungry moment for those who do not understand) BUT they would give new cobblestone skin collection...
people would totally forget about this map or get mad that they cannot get dragonlore anymore
here - i explained it -> people miss the skin drops, not the map
Actually deranged skinkiddie.
I miss cobble pugs so much
Miss u cobble 😢
i miss cabobol!
Cobble ain't a fan favourite. When I see people begging for it to come back I question whether they've been around long enough to have actually played it. It wasn't a terrible map to play, but it wasn't a good one either. There was very little strategic depth and it was very imbalanced, which was ok when you're playing matchmaking and you're ego peeking and aimduelling, but it sucked to watch pros play. The map had a nice visual design, and obviously the map collection was iconic. I think the aesthetics of the map are a significant factor in why you see so many people ask for it back. If I had to chose between form and function, function wins. I doubt cobble can be turned into a viable map, so I think it's a bit silly that anyone wants it in active duty. Same goes for train.
With some small tweaks, Cache, Tuscan, Season, Thera or Dust 2 would make much better additions to active duty.
I guess flat gameplay can be fun to watch for some people, me personally not huge fun of watching 24 played the same way, but I still remember few epic nades exchanges on B entrance from 1.6 top tier tournaments - it's dramatic and random, so it might be exciting.
yes i agree with this guy, but fy_pool_day would be the better choice for pro cs. You know, cbble is a big map but with bigger molotovs and smokes the meta could still change to a viable map with small tweaks. This isnt cs 1.6 or go, this is cs2 and this game is on another level so you cant say that without any evidence how the map would play out
Tuscan and Cache will probably added to Active Duty, they are the maps with huge possibility.
I dont really understand your point about it being too simple ? What map isn’t simple other than Nuke or maybe Vertigo and Overpass, imo it actually was a very unique map that had many tactical options which i think today would play very differently than back in the day. And if we talk about strategic depth then we shouldn’t even mention Cache or Dust 2 since they have none of it.
@@whosTage If we are talking the original then - no, there was not many tactical options to go B - you just had to rush trough choking point, you can't compare it to dust2 or cache because those two had mid lane and you could always go split B with mid (not to mention that cache had actually 2 entrances for B alone). So, yeah, cbble's B was always a problem when it comes to tactical opportunities for TT and I haven't even touched retakes, because having one tiny door for CT for rotation and with that big, big empty space between BS and those doors means that if TT had an AWP then it's virtually impossible postplant for CT.
PS. I'm not sure why you mentioned Vertigo as "complex" - in CS:GO initially it suffered for same reasons I mentioned for 1.6's cbble, of course it was changed since, but honestly A executes on that map still look the same and there is not much tactical flexibility there even after changes.