This is Just Go, a game on Steam. Honestly, I wouldn't really recommend it for beginners, its best quality by far is being very pretty. Fox, Tygem, online-go.com, Pandanet, and tsumego sites 101weiqi.com and goproblems.com are the best beginner resources imo
Didn't white have at least one more ko threat at the bottom right, at 53:42? Also, if the move at J5 threatened a snapback for the 5 stones, wasn't it sente? So why didn't Ke Jie play there first and then on the right side for the 2/3rd point reverse sente?
Yeah I forgot to count one ko threat for white and black in the video, whoops. Your question about why Ke Jie didn't play there first is very good (it was the only winning play), and they apparently asked him that in the interviews post-game. Unfortunately I have no idea what he said, but it's very common for pros to omit smaller sente as "good" style.
@@telegraphgo Interesting! So he just wanted to be a gentleman, and offered his opponent the chance to win for 2 moves, but when it wasn't taken he decided to go for it himself 😆
Great question! I didn't notice this until you just asked right now, but if white captures the two stones, then black h12 will force white to eventually add a move inside, therefore letting black take a point in gote. That's much bigger than the 1/3 point value of ko moves, so reducing two ko threats will not pay off.
if black responds then it's white's sente which is just blatantly untrue, seems like a good way to confuse the counting rather than counting the value of white's followup assuming white's move is gote
Thank you for the endgame explanation... Go videos don't do enough of that 👍
That explanation of the endgame was superb!
Love your videos! Keep it up! Thank you for the indepth endgame. Had me riveted and gripping the edge of my seat.
Man u've been pumping out videos like crazy lately, thank you so much!!
Loved your commentary on this crazy game. Thanks.
What an amazing game! Thank you so much for taking the time to really dig into the endgame.
3 videos in such short order. You’re on a roll dude!
There actually are true half point kos, but they are complicated! Sensei's library has an example, and i think i saw one in Berlekamp's book
Excellent video. Can’t wait for the next game!
Thank you for the video.
This really helps me
What a rollercoaster!
Locally this would die, except for there is an eye over here. 😂
Great video and great analysis! Thank you!
Thanks for the review!
Terrific
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Thank you for great commentary. Don't W have two more ko threats in the lower right corner to use in last ko?
Only one more I think, and I missed another black one as well
Hmm. isnt M1 another ko-threat for black, so that the additional one from the snap-back isnt needed?
actually I forgot to count that one and s18 one in the video so it evens out lol way too excited
@@telegraphgo I hate endgame. :-) But it was fascinating to see how unreal it can get. And that even pros are not really able to play it perfectly.
Me, an moron, 20 minutes played: "ooh pretty rocks"
You, a professional, thousands of games played: " ooh, pretty shapes"
I'm no pro but I can't deny occasionally just enjoying looking at my boards and stones
I’m new to this game! May I ask what software you’re using to play/show the game?
This is Just Go, a game on Steam. Honestly, I wouldn't really recommend it for beginners, its best quality by far is being very pretty. Fox, Tygem, online-go.com, Pandanet, and tsumego sites 101weiqi.com and goproblems.com are the best beginner resources imo
How long is Ke Jie keeping his anime hair 😂
I am officially confused 😅 Great game though
Didn't white have at least one more ko threat at the bottom right, at 53:42? Also, if the move at J5 threatened a snapback for the 5 stones, wasn't it sente? So why didn't Ke Jie play there first and then on the right side for the 2/3rd point reverse sente?
Yeah I forgot to count one ko threat for white and black in the video, whoops. Your question about why Ke Jie didn't play there first is very good (it was the only winning play), and they apparently asked him that in the interviews post-game. Unfortunately I have no idea what he said, but it's very common for pros to omit smaller sente as "good" style.
@@telegraphgo Interesting! So he just wanted to be a gentleman, and offered his opponent the chance to win for 2 moves, but when it wasn't taken he decided to go for it himself 😆
227-236 (except 230,231) the wrong moves. F4 the key point. White would win if they took F16
why did white answer the j8 atari with j7? why not just take at l5?
Great question! I didn't notice this until you just asked right now, but if white captures the two stones, then black h12 will force white to eventually add a move inside, therefore letting black take a point in gote. That's much bigger than the 1/3 point value of ko moves, so reducing two ko threats will not pay off.
j5 appears to be a 0 point move actually. If b responds w can never have a point there. I might call it a 2 ko threat sente move.
if black responds then it's white's sente which is just blatantly untrue, seems like a good way to confuse the counting rather than counting the value of white's followup assuming white's move is gote
who says endgames are boring :)
your explanation very good