Thank you for this video. I have a old saw that I use daily that had a curve in it. Your video showed me how to fix it. Now my favorite old timer is back to work and cutting straight. Thanks again.
I already have fixed old bend and kinked saws. It's a little bit tricky at first but i have a good anvil (a really heavy duty Steel plate) and in my experience a Bronze Hammer is not so fast while straightening not so much stressing for the Sawblade. All in all it's a lot of Fun to restore old Saws😀
This video was perfect. I have a Disston saw from my Great Grandfather that I wanted to keep and was bent. I fixed it while watching this video and it straightened right up. I was on the fence about what to do with it before, however now it is now time for a cleaning and sharpening. Thanks!
Oh James, thank you. I thought I was going to have to find a blacksmith to straighten my out of straight panel saw. I feel much more comfortable giving it a try after watching you treat yours like a tape measure. ;)
I cracked a D-8 right by the handle (I was pushing crooked and damaged it), so just cut it shorter, put in new holes and now that saw is a few inches shorter but works great. The cutoff pieces made a few scrapers.
Took a panel saw with a split towards the toe, cut it down and gave it a nice curve, added a piece of back from an otherwise destroyed backpack and voila!! My very own half back saw.
Hi James! Nice as usual... We meet on one point: we sometimes need to be brutal with our loved hand tools. You need a firm hand to bend your saw, mostly the saw #6, and when I think firm hand, I bend, I bend! Cheers from the old continent
I had to straighten a few saws that were both curved and kinked over the past few years. I'd say that for casual saw repairing you nailed it well. Those that want to learn more and risk ruining the saws can find more advanced techniques. But the risk goes up rapidly just as you are suggesting. Mind you, collectables aside if the saw isn't useable then what are we going to do? Break it more? At least in the further ruination we can learn something for next time.
I really appreciate this video, I’ve since recently done this to a couple of saws I’ve bought. Is any of this applicable to squares? I have a couple good condition Stanley squares, and on one it’s a bit bent along the whole way, with a couple small kinks at the end.
I will try it on my rip saw that is bent in the first 3 inches, not on the handle side. I am not really good at long rip sawing, I might be better to put all chances on my side with a straight saw.
I have a panel saw that wasn't straight when I purchased it brand new on Amazon(didn't realize it till after it was too late to return) I attempted to fix by doing as you suggest but I found out that it looks like it's a twisted bend in the blade. How would I go about fixing it. Also as I'm using the saw the blade rattles? or chatters? back and forth rapidly (not sure the correct terminology on how to explain it, lol.) Hopefully you can help. Thanks.
If it is rattling or making a sound that's not cutting wood, then that means the handle is loose. If the plate isn't perfectly straight then it can always be twisted or bent. Sometimes you can clamp the tip in a vise and then twist the handle. The nice thing about it is as long as you don't kink it. You're never going to hurt it because if you go too far you can always just turn it back the other way.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo It's cutting the wood just fine but when I'm pulling back while in the kurf the whole plate moves from side to side rapidly and makes a horrible sound. The bend seems like it's close to the handle but only on the non tooth side of it cause if I look down the plate of the teeth it looks pretty close to straight.
oh thwapping! ya that comes when your arm is out of alinement. I need to do a video on that specifically. but if you want to go in-depth. here is a live video where I worked with someone else that was having problems sawing. th-cam.com/video/JB-qIjNjV3o/w-d-xo.html
Worth nothing to save bad saws because all kinds of things can be made from the saw plate. Also the handles are very worth keeping. I’ve bought new plates from Blackburn tools and used old handles to make really nice saws.
I look for vintage saws with lots of plate left with kinks near the front (at or past where the nib would be). Then I use a cutoff wheel to take off the toe in front of the kink and make a toolbox general use saw that's a hell of a lot nicer than the hardpoint teeth you get at the home center.
Bob Rozaieski has a good video on straightening and tensioning a handsaw. He also has a good video on straightening a back saw. Bob goes into the detail that James refers to but doesn't in this video. There's a lot of detail in the narrative that Bob gives as he shows how to do it. Trying to take it all in is kind of like drinking from a full-on garden hose and trying to get every drop. But Bob starts with doing the same things James does here, I'm not disputing that advice at all. But from my point of view, if I'm going to throw it away, why not experiment on it, and learn a bit first? I've already written it off. And finally, to get the last bit of value out of it, you can cut it up and make scrapers from the blade.
I should have put that caveat in the video. Hard point saws are something else. Those are generally intended to just be disposable. So if there's ever a kink or a bend in them, they're trash.
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Saved my grandfather in law's old Disston, got twisted in some elm this evening. Thanks James.
Thank you for this video. I have a old saw that I use daily that had a curve in it. Your video showed me how to fix it. Now my favorite old timer is back to work and cutting straight. Thanks again.
You saved my saw! I wasn't bending it enough. Thanks!
I already have fixed old bend and kinked saws. It's a little bit tricky at first but i have a good anvil (a really heavy duty Steel plate) and in my experience a Bronze Hammer is not so fast while straightening not so much stressing for the Sawblade. All in all it's a lot of Fun to restore old Saws😀
This video was perfect. I have a Disston saw from my Great Grandfather that I wanted to keep and was bent. I fixed it while watching this video and it straightened right up. I was on the fence about what to do with it before, however now it is now time for a cleaning and sharpening. Thanks!
Oh James, thank you. I thought I was going to have to find a blacksmith to straighten my out of straight panel saw. I feel much more comfortable giving it a try after watching you treat yours like a tape measure. ;)
I cracked a D-8 right by the handle (I was pushing crooked and damaged it), so just cut it shorter, put in new holes and now that saw is a few inches shorter but works great. The cutoff pieces made a few scrapers.
Took a panel saw with a split towards the toe, cut it down and gave it a nice curve, added a piece of back from an otherwise destroyed backpack and voila!! My very own half back saw.
Woow, my heart exploded when you bent those saws. I didn't know saw plate was that flexible
spring steel is amazing stuff!
He didn't show the outtakes where the saw plates were snapping... 😆
Hi James! Nice as usual... We meet on one point: we sometimes need to be brutal with our loved hand tools.
You need a firm hand to bend your saw, mostly the saw #6, and when I think firm hand, I bend, I bend!
Cheers from the old continent
Wow I never saw anyone do that before! spring steel is amazing.
Solid topic n over again love how often you post, TKS
Perfect timing for me with this video! Just got bunch of saws which have slight bends in them.
You will like this one then. th-cam.com/video/akr6RzodDtk/w-d-xo.html
I had to straighten a few saws that were both curved and kinked over the past few years. I'd say that for casual saw repairing you nailed it well. Those that want to learn more and risk ruining the saws can find more advanced techniques. But the risk goes up rapidly just as you are suggesting. Mind you, collectables aside if the saw isn't useable then what are we going to do? Break it more? At least in the further ruination we can learn something for next time.
I agree! I find when fixing something that is already trashed releases me to do my best work!
Really excellent tips, James! Thanks! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
VERY helpful video, James! Thanks!
practical information is so valuable
Boom he’s back. Bend it like Beckham
The King is back in town!
Great video- thank you.
Does this work for a twist in the saw? I have an old (grandfather's) Disston that has a twist rather than a bend (same idea as a lumber twist).
Same idea. For a twist. You may find it more useful to put a corner of the saw in a vice.
I really appreciate this video, I’ve since recently done this to a couple of saws I’ve bought. Is any of this applicable to squares? I have a couple good condition Stanley squares, and on one it’s a bit bent along the whole way, with a couple small kinks at the end.
Generally, those are not as flexible. Most of the time. You would set them on an anvil and tap out the binds with a hammer.
Makes sense. Seems probably best to have a professional fix it. Thanks for the reply, you do a lot of good work!
This is so helpful! Thank you!!!!
Not breaking out a violin bow and making some music was a missed opportunity lol
At one funeral at my church we actually had a musical saw perform .
It was eerie, but beautiful.
I will try it on my rip saw that is bent in the first 3 inches, not on the handle side. I am not really good at long rip sawing, I might be better to put all chances on my side with a straight saw.
thank you
Tks
Very useful.
Thank you
I have a panel saw that wasn't straight when I purchased it brand new on Amazon(didn't realize it till after it was too late to return) I attempted to fix by doing as you suggest but I found out that it looks like it's a twisted bend in the blade. How would I go about fixing it. Also as I'm using the saw the blade rattles? or chatters? back and forth rapidly (not sure the correct terminology on how to explain it, lol.) Hopefully you can help. Thanks.
If it is rattling or making a sound that's not cutting wood, then that means the handle is loose. If the plate isn't perfectly straight then it can always be twisted or bent. Sometimes you can clamp the tip in a vise and then twist the handle. The nice thing about it is as long as you don't kink it. You're never going to hurt it because if you go too far you can always just turn it back the other way.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo It's cutting the wood just fine but when I'm pulling back while in the kurf the whole plate moves from side to side rapidly and makes a horrible sound. The bend seems like it's close to the handle but only on the non tooth side of it cause if I look down the plate of the teeth it looks pretty close to straight.
oh thwapping! ya that comes when your arm is out of alinement. I need to do a video on that specifically. but if you want to go in-depth. here is a live video where I worked with someone else that was having problems sawing. th-cam.com/video/JB-qIjNjV3o/w-d-xo.html
The thumbnail clearly shows Bill Burr is into woodworking now.
I saw what you did there.
Wauw thanks! Very useful!
Worth nothing to save bad saws because all kinds of things can be made from the saw plate. Also the handles are very worth keeping. I’ve bought new plates from Blackburn tools and used old handles to make really nice saws.
I have fixed a bent brass back by just putting it on my leg and applying pressure.
If it's slight that works.
How do you know how much set to give the teeth of a saw ?
The bigger the tooth is the more you want. Also the better your skills are often the less you want. There really is no right amount for any saw.
Good to know, really hope I'll never need to use it though ;)
What about bending musical saws?
I'm not 100% sure on that one. My gut is to say they're also made out of spring steel so you should be able to do the same thing.
I look for vintage saws with lots of plate left with kinks near the front (at or past where the nib would be). Then I use a cutoff wheel to take off the toe in front of the kink and make a toolbox general use saw that's a hell of a lot nicer than the hardpoint teeth you get at the home center.
Comment for the algorithm :)
Bob Rozaieski has a good video on straightening and tensioning a handsaw. He also has a good video on straightening a back saw. Bob goes into the detail that James refers to but doesn't in this video. There's a lot of detail in the narrative that Bob gives as he shows how to do it. Trying to take it all in is kind of like drinking from a full-on garden hose and trying to get every drop. But Bob starts with doing the same things James does here, I'm not disputing that advice at all. But from my point of view, if I'm going to throw it away, why not experiment on it, and learn a bit first? I've already written it off. And finally, to get the last bit of value out of it, you can cut it up and make scrapers from the blade.
I get a small heart attack when the saw bends or flexes a lot. I worry it with snap
That is the nice thing about spring steel!
Saw bend by Sum Ting Wong.
How about Japanese saw?
same thing.
Phight
Ghite, with the "gh" as in "rough".
I just use mine for clotting circles
Cutting, I meant cutting. See what Eye get trying to be smart when not wearing my glasses!🤓
LOL! Bent out of shape!
I just snapped my hard point saw in half.
I should have put that caveat in the video. Hard point saws are something else. Those are generally intended to just be disposable. So if there's ever a kink or a bend in them, they're trash.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo I was just being facetious! Everyone knows that hard point saws are the work of the devil.
Kinks can be hammered out. I have had some kinks that needed to be "temper set" by heating it to blue and putting it between some wood.