For what it's worth, over the years, I've seen many characters who don't look white, whether biracial or not be portrayed as the most unlikable in the shows. Like Iris West from the flash, Ginny from Ginny and Georgia and Amber from Invincible. On the surface, companies will talk about how diversity is important, yet progressive people will often write minority characters to be unlikable, what are your thoughts on that?
Anyone watched 3 Body Problem on Netflix? The entire series had 2 black women on screen, and they were both older women. Despite the fact they had a black male Fboy character who was sleeping with multiple attractive women, none of them were black.
That tiktok of the little girl crying broke my heart, to think that a child so young already thinks of herself as ugly and that there's so many more like her, it's just awful.
Socialization starts young. Kids are hyper aware and it's important the media they consume is reflective of their phenotype. The doll test wasn't a sham most people INCLUDING Black folks prefer light, bright damn near white. While thankfully I wasn't aware of colorism growing up I'm afraid that I'll be part of the problem if I choose to have a kid. The men that date me are non black, what if I have a kid will I be contributing to the degradation of dark skinned little Black girls? If I have a dark skinned daughter will I instill enough self esteem in her to where she doesn't need to bend it ova for male attention? It may seem like a non-issue but as someone that's hyper aware I know that the world prefers light skin, curly hair and green eyes. And unfortunately we've been burdened with every single choice we make being political 🥹
Also can we talk about the animators making her hair look like how an actual black girl/teen in the 90s would unlike other shows were they give up and just give them straight hair 👍🏽
Yeah I'm not black but i do like do draw black women with all the braids, and i remember just kinda finding it weird as a kid to not see any black characters with them because most of the black people i know have braids It's also fun to just come up with fun styles or just copy ones of people i know/have seen
Paraphrasing "people assume black people and biracial people are all black even though their experiences are different" SO TRUE! SO SO TRUE! GREAT video!
So true. In the nineties especially the black girl representation was nearly always bi racial/light skinned black girls with Europeans features. Very damaging!
People assume it, because even within the black community black people who say all bi-racial people aren’t necessarily black tend to mostly be villainized for saying it, by the “POC” demographic that believe and push the narrative that all groups and cultures that are not Caucasian are black and thus some racial monolith.
I adored Jodie Landon! I also liked Tiffany because she wasn’t the stereotypical Asian character who was a math wiz, I loved that she was shallow and stupid.
I agree although besides not watching Daria or remember watching it (it's good to not have stereotypes and just regular calm rep for evb), I think they've only shown two extremes. Like thinking back between now and then I've always seen the Asian that was spoiled w/ rich parents but always shallow no real nuance depth and ofc stupid asf, like they had their actual usage of braincell moments but they were always shallow and stupid while I was watching. Or those few times, stuck up and smarter than the normal kid studious but also still not that smart or good enough. And then I started to see like here and there (even w/ going back to watch other movies) the Asian wizkid. So basically to me it just was two very stiff stereotypical extremes, even if some of them were my fav characters. Bc why aren't the characters actually more balanced esp w/ getting actual rep? Not too smart, not too dumb it's not that hard or at least it shouldn't be, regular ppl. Anyways, it's good that evb can have rep and at least find something good with those character reps. (I don't necessarily hate the characters but again, when I did see asian rep it was those two basically black n white two opposite extremes that to me overtime was just like eh..this is not balance just cuz..just make a normal person not overtly shallow dumb gfn and not smart and meek or smart and stuck up etc.)
The scene w the beautiful little girl who thought she was ugly hit a nerve . Made me cry a little . I remember in high school a white girl looked me dead in my face and said “I don’t think any black women can be attractive except Nicki Minaj” . Nicki Minaj has a ton of surgery . Smh .
I cried too! & Wow. I can relate. in high school this girl looked me dead in my face and said - “there’s no way Beyoncé can be black, she’s BEAUTIFUL” … and I just recently found out one of my favorite kpop idols referred to Alicia Keys as “pretty for a black” SMDH
@@kythekunoichi ouch , not the emphasis on beautiful . we emanate so much power they try to tear us down and train us in self hatred alllll the way from our childhoods .
Nicki doesn't have face surgery just bottom body however it is still annoying and sad that it's always a mixed or popular and deemed pretty enough black girl (to their likes, from the only ones they know) to get compared to.
When I went to high school there was a single black student. She was very kind, smart, even beautiful (not an important thing, just happens to be so:). When I had an allergic reaction to our wool skirt uniform things, she gave me some special cotton ones! She told me one day in our second year that she would really miss us but was changing schools because she felt really alone being the only black kid there 💔 I felt so bad for her and there is literally nothing we students could have done for her to make that better.
A friend of mines husband is Chinese and fortunately they live in Dublin, so their kid isn't the only Irish girl of Asian descent in the school, but she didn't want to go to Irish college because she knew every other kid there would be white and my heart absolutely broke for her (Irish college is one of the names we call a summer camp in a rural town where everyone speaks Irish, not English, so they get language immersion).
The "You must be Jodie's parents." made me laugh so hard. Love that show. Oh dang, Brandy as a live action Jodie would be awesome. I've been meaning to go and rewatch Moesha. I watched a ton of it as a kid, but tbh don't remember much about it.
Is this if they are all in their 40s at a high school reunion ? I think Aubrey Plaza could be Daria. Jodie seemed modeled after Brandi when I watched the show back in high school.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail for this video I knew exactly the moment you were talking about and immediately felt so much warmth for that little girl. I was 15 when this episode aired and I still remember how good it felt to see Jodie stand up for her. 🥰
Speaking as a white person who hopes and strives to be an ally, thank you for making this. Thank you for being willing to educate, for doing so through one of my favorite shows, and thank you for sharing your voice. We need more voices like yours. So you have my subscription and whatever my support is worth.
They did the same thing with Clawdeen Wolfe from the live action Monster High adaptation. I didn't even bother watching it. Clawdeen had a deeper complexion, while her sister Howleen read more ambiguous/Biracial. But a very light Biracial actress was chosen to depict Clawdeen. At the same time, the older and much less appealing role of the Headmistress was changed from a White woman to a richly melanated monoracial Black woman. (Which no one asked for them to do, it just seemed like some weird consolation prize). More than that, it felt like Black girls couldn't be part of the fun of monster High School fashionista shenanigans. Instead, the only Black female character was relegated to the sideline, the role of the caretaker, the mentor, and again adultified to be the literal oldest person in the cast. (Also somewhat a remix of the mammy trope). This change rubbed me the wrong way, I was excited to see a Black girl cast in a non-stereotypical paranormal/fantasy role. MH dashed those hopes. Oh well. I do want to see more media made by Black women where we can depict ourselves and do so respectfully and correctly, because there seems to be an concerted effort to maintain the status quo.
I don’t know much about monster high but I know exactly what casting you’re talking about. I’m going to have to research that. Sounds …interesting Thank you!! ❤
And what was also annoying was the response from the fan base who justified the whitewashing and acted like their was zero difference between the actress they chose, and Clawdeen's actual skin color. It's a common thing in animation when darks skinned and Black characters are whitewashed, that people just act like the characters were never dark to begin with. Like Katara and Sokka in the live action Netflix series, Sokka is majority White, and Katara's actress has lighter skin. And when this is acknowledged, people act like Katara and Sokka were never brown and dark skin in the original animated show.
The director of that movie is the same one who made this INCREDIBLY racist movie in his early career, negatively and stereotypically depicting the magical "Redskin" Native as a solution to the white casts problems. The minute I saw that, I knew the MH movie would be a shitshow
It’s a really weird contrast between the G3 show and the live-action movies, in the show she’s a dark-skinned Afro-Latina closer in tone to the original Clawdeen, in the movies she’s light skinned and played by a light skinned biracial girl, it reeks of colourism.
I didn't have much hope for anything monster high related after seeing the voice actress wasnt black. They'd rather hire someone to imitate the voice than get an actual black woman.
This is lowkey one of my favorite videos now. I am mixed and the part about mixed women being cast as black women(not saying we arent black but you know what I mean) was so eye opening and profound. And the part about black little girls and preteens having no appropriate representation was also so correct. For me the only representation i had at my age was Zuri from Jessi. I loved her as a kid but I now recognize that she is somewhat of a stereotype. Having same age and age appropriate representation for black children is so so important yet so lacking. This video made me cry, Thank you.
Bro Zuri was an awful character. Skai Jackson is beautiful but her role was bratty and definitely annoyed me then and it does even now. I think we need to respect Black introverts and Black people who are chill and aren't yelling all the time. Give them support. Give them kindness. All this murder gunshot stuff and raging about absolutely nothing is draining.
I heard the Jodie spinoff was shelved again. I was really looking forward to it when I heard it might happen, so I'm pretty bummed out about this. Deadline JUST ran a story confirming that Comedy Central doesn't plan to move forward with the project. I hope it ends up finding a home.
A show like Daria set in the modern day would be a breath of fresh air! Especially if it kept the level of writing and understanding the original one has.
This video was amazing, I do wanna say that moon girl and devil dinosaur has been a great example of black girl representation and I really hope we get more like it
Your point about how pre-teen girls don't really have role models in pop media these days hit hard, as a eastern european who's almost 30 and has no idea about children media in USA i can't speak much about it but as an adult foreigner most of my exposure to black women are hiphop music videos (which is welp😅) and some Hollywood movies, and TH-cam. And honestly, TH-cam is a saving grace and helps me get to know more about them in many aspects. I hope your channel gains the attention it deserves cause you're so well spoken and thoughtful!
You so perfectly captured why Jodie was my fave character of the supporting cast. She is just such a well-written and well-rounded character. One where her race dictates aspects of her character but isn’t her only attribute. And I’m not even a black girl, I just like those hyper-competent types thrusted into real life situations. Wish we had seen more of her. Great vid! Edit: Obviously, I also 100% agree with your points on the importance of representation & role models!
i work in television. that clip of ariyonna struck a chord with me when i was in college, and really pushed me to get into this field. i want to do right by our babies.
Yes!! More of us need to be in the writers rooms, in the casting director's chair, and behind the cameras to counter the mess that black girls representation is today. I wish you the best in your career!!
This is why i was so happy when Leah Jefrees was casted as anabeth in percy jackson, The immediate demonization of her casting while prevalent was slowly overshadowed by the more supporting side of the fandom that actually saw themselves in her or just understood that she was an amazing actor that shouldn’t have underestimated.No matter the opinions on her action which i believe were great, she is an beutiful representation to female black pre teens in media an being a male black pre teen this video helped materialize my thoughts when i saw she was casted and why i was so happy
Thank you for deep diviing on that part because as a black teen watching that scene living in very military town and being the token lol I FELT THAT SCENE!!!
The storyline about Jody embracing her role as an inspiration for the little girl reminds me of Nichelle Nichols, Lt. Uhura on the original Star Trek series. As the first season’s filming went on, Ms. Nichols was not getting the scenes and story involvement that Gene Roddenberry had promised with she got the role. She was in the verge of quitting, when she received a letter from Dr. Martin Luther King. He told her how much it meant to people of color to tune into the show every week and see a black character l, especially a woman, sitting center stage, right behind Captain Kirk. Ms. Nichols was inspired to continue in the role. This had even more positive effects than were hoped for at the time, as in the early 70s, Ms.Nichols was contacted by NASA to be a part of their efforts to encourage and recruit women and minorities into space program.
This came up on my recommendations and GODDAMN I’m subscribed now :). You brought up so many things I’ve been thinking about recently (esp with mixed/light skin girls being the only representation we get in media- like, don’t even get me started) there are so many constant silent messages being that being darker is “ugly” also omg I wanna hug that baby, that broke my heart.
just hearing about that clip almost made me burst into tears because it's so real. doing things to show little black girls that anything is possible is my main reason to keep going. As an adult, i care way less about other peoples thoughts when doing and dressing how I love, and when I go to conventions all dressed up in cosplay and having fun, and little girls (with their supportive,thankfully, parents) come up to ask for a picture...it is a feeling thay cannot be beat. it is truly them, who I am living for. so they can be comfortable doing whatever they please.
awwwwwww!!! i feel the same way when I cosplay! i have a youtube short of black girl cosplayers from Momocon last year and i love it! such great representation!
Hey as a biracial women myself everything you just said is so fucking true. Even moving a white conservative town and having somewhat more “blackness” due not living a very white centric town before moving. I understand even if the racism I experience was very harsh and rash I can fully believe and even seen myself that it was not as brash and difficult compared to other black girls I knew or was friends with. And having a biracial girl is not a same representation as a black girl. I was once doing volunteer work and dressed up as a fairy for my local Libary tea party. This young black mom and girl came up and the mom was thankful for me at least being there cause she doesn’t see a lot of other poc and black women doing this. It was honestly a great heartfelt moment but I do understand the implications of being accepted to even do local gigs is that you have to be lighter and also whiter features for people like seeing you. Thank you for this video it’s a beautiful essay and I can’t wait to see more of Daria and other analyzation of media. (Also if reading this thank you for your time)
@@kythekunoichi Can you explain to me why it seems like my parents are the only black American parents to move to an upper middle class white neighborhood! But has their children spend most of their our time in black neighborhoods during the weekends, holidays and summers? We went to church in black neighborhoods, we spent holidays in black neighborhoods. We went to prom and homecoming at our cousins schools in black neighborhoods, and joined majority black upward bound programs! All these comments and stories on your channel p, even the show Daria suggest that a lot of black girls parents move to upper middle class white suburbs and just isolate then away from black neighborhoods and towns!!!
@@professorxaviour3649 a common trend i noticed, is that most parents move their kids to predominantly white neighborhoods because that county/area has better opportunities/resources for the kids than predominantly black neighborhoods. and we do the visits back to the old neighborhood to not forget our culture. it sucks but when i asked all my aunt and uncles why they moved that was the response lol
Totally agree with you on how mixed people have different unique issues than other poc I'm half white half hispanic, but I never really felt like I fit in one or the other. Too dark for white spaces, not hispanic enough for hispanic spaces (especially since I never learned spanish) In a lot of shows growing up I hade no representation. I didn't really identify with the white characters, but when I watch hispanic characters, it almost felt like apropriation. It never felt right The first time I saw a show with a mixed character who looked compleatly different to one of their parents, I almost cried. Its now getting more and more common now that other mixed kids are making cartoons, and I'm happy my future kids will see rep they can identify with ❤
I knew exactly the moment you were talking about from the thumbnail. This was such a great show, it was consistently entertaining all while surprising you by showing the hidden depths of people. Jodie is a character that's really stuck with me over the years, possibly more so than most any other supporting character in an animated show. I love this particular episode, the frustration she (and Mack) experience was so effectively delivered (even to a clueless teenager who was neither Black nor a woman) that even if you can't directly relate to it with first-hand experience, you comprehend why they sincerely felt so miserable. And the reason why she stayed was so smartly conveyed as well; the fact it was non-verbal too is just wonderful. They didn't need to spell it out, everything was expressed in their faces. It says so much. What a great video. Please continue to make content like this. Low-effort reviews are a dime a dozen on this platform, we need more thoughtful analysis like this. There's an audience that wants and needs it.
This was an amazing video and you summed up on how the the importance of black girl representation and the many issues of it today. It amazing how some representation ( not all) was better in the past then today. I hope you do more videos like this because more topics like this need to be discuss.
First time seeing any of your videos, but I instantly recognized the moment you were going to talk about. Having watched the show in its first run, she remains one of my favorite characters.
I hope that nonsexual positive depictions of black women becomes more of a trend. Thank you for pointing out Hallywood’s short comings and being true to your needs.
I felt this with Umbrella Academy. In the comics, Allison has dark skin, but they cast a light actress for the role :/ (idk for sure if she's biracial, but i think she is)
allison isnt black in the comics, but the writer did introduce a new character in hotel oblivion who seems like shes gonna be taking a bigger part in the next run (qhenever that happens) whose a black woman! that might be who youre thinking of
Seeing 4 very different Black women star in a show (Living Single) plus Jodie, Brandy, Lauryn Hill, Missy, etc in the 90s taught me I could be a Black Woman in any way I choose. It’s not just the representation, but also the quality of the representation.
This is a great video. The scene was always one that stuck in my mind because it so clearly shows the importance of representation. I genuinely think it’s one of the best take downs of tokenism in media that I’ve seen. Never trust that any spin-off or reboot is happening until they start releasing trailers or marketing for it with a release date. Until then, it’s generally better to assume it’s not happening.
What’s crazy is one hour before my video premiered I found an article from earlier this week announcing the official cancellation of the spin off. So nah, I don’t think it’s happening right now either
Throwing in that Biracial Girl song in the background, I cackled so hard I had to replay that whole section 😂 this was so wonderfully put together and presented, i found myself nodding in agreement so many times. I look forward to watching more of your content!
Incredible job,l! I’ve loved Daria for years now, and this exact scene has been one of the many defining reasons why I love it so much. Great job sharing your perspective and attachment to the character; can’t help but feel like you’re doing similar things for young black girls wanting to create content like so. ❤️
Man... growing up I got so much racism thrown at me as a suburban black girl, and i didnt really fit in with anyone, not even other black girls around me bc they mainly were interested in sports while I liked music and arts (tho they were still the nicest to me!). Point is, I got SO MUCH racism and hate for just existing and when i called them out on being racist, i was called sensitive bc it was "jUsT a jOkE!" Okay well, if youre saying racist stuff don't be mad when someone "confuses" you for a racist! Ive since told my therapist about this and girl, i think its time to start looking for a new one (This is a white guy!) He said, well they were teenagers just trying to say something shocking for their friends. Yeah, they were racist teens saying racist shit to impress their racist friends 😮 that's information I already knew. Selfishly itd be nice to talk abt how many of us even fell for this shit. Bc when i look back I wasnt immune to that type of language and neither were many of the other black girls around me, they also said racist shit abt other races in order to fit in. Ugh its disheartening and embarrassing.
I got the same in the 90s as black skater goth and punk rocker. Things were rough for us back then too. 42 now and nobody can tell me who I am, and what I can or can't like or how to be.
I think you should complain about that while changing therapists, he invalidated your experience while taking up for your bullies (which they always do, yt ppl always cover for their own)
@@jordanguillory7180 so why didn’t you immediately switch or say no to free therapy?.? It’s a white man! There is no reason why you should have sat down with him!!
As an old white dude I can't thank you enough for sharing all of this with us on TH-cam. I appreciate all the hard work you put into this, it was beyond exemplary and quite excellent
This is a good video 🤍 thank you for the parts about the “respectability politics” people looking down on HBCUs and especially about how preteen/teen black girls have literally 0 representation at all and are way over exposed to hyper sexual, violent and toxic imagery. All day. It’s so sad to me n I feel no one mentions it or is doing anything about it
Whenever I've binged Daria in the past that episode sticks with me especially that moment where she sees the girl. I like the writing decision to be implicit with why she chose to stay up there. It's one of those things of "if you know, you know". And I think that says more than anything that could actually be said in that moment
I'm so excited to see a Daria video, I ADORE Daria!! It's my favorite show ever. I really loved Jodie and Daria's dynamic so much, Jodie is a perfect balance and such an incredibly written character. I don't know, that show was just so so well done and I feel like so many new shows try to copy it's energy but they don't understand what was so good. i cried over that little girl in the crowd that moment was SO beautiful. it's not really related but I remember one time I was working at a store and a little girl came in with a "Turning Red" toy that looked JUST like her down to marching glasses and I was so excited that she had a doll that looked how she does. it makes me so sad, because when I was a kid I would be so excited to get Barbie dolls that looked like Britney because it looked just like me. every little girl should have that experience, like that's such a SIMPLE thing. every little girl should feel beautiful
This is such an amazing video. You literally took the thoughts and feelings out my head and put them out. 10/10 as a monoracial black girl this video really hits home. Thank you so much for making it. Also when you had the conflicting scenes with the two women in Bridgerton I really was floored becauseI didn’t even think about that. I really wonder if it is unconscious bias by yt people to cast biracial women in those roles or if it is intentional, as black creators do it as well. The gaslighting is crazy as well when you call it out and it becomes “we’re all black”. It’s disheartening.
Reminds me of ppl speaking on the purposeful always biracial in an add even with two black parents out of nowhere she's biracial like it's the new black (I mean they made it so atp but like ew we have enough problems just cast brownskin and darkskins unambiguously).
❤️❤️❤️❤️ thank you! im honestly so sensitive to this stuff. I struggled to finish Queen Charlotte because of this. there’s so much sneak dissing that goes on right in our faces.
Idk but after bridgerton I'm starting to feel like Shonda Rhimes actually secretly hates us. Why does she constantly do us like this??? (I'm including scandal and other projects by her where black women get the short end of the stick because Olivia's and Analises's portrayal and treatment is honestly problematic too)
Unfortunately I heard that the Jodie show was cancelled, if I am not mistaken someone on twitter said she worked on the show ITS FINISHED and they are refusing to release it. I love this video, its so insightful and honest!
I think this was the final push in getting me to watch the show in its entirety. Please never stop doing what you're doing. I love videos like these and more people need to talk about this stuff
subscribed and liked! love this video. Jodie was my little girl rep cuz suburban black girls do exist which is why I hated how Invincible fans treated the dark skin black love interest Amber poorly, saying she doesn't act black enough ugh. glad to see more monoracial black girls as multifaceted love interests like Leah Sava Jeffries in Percy Jackson, in that changing Annabeth from white to black enhanced the story's themes and wasn't just a diversity hire
I hate invincible for how they treated that poor girl. That and I side eye Steven Yeun ever since that drama with his the Beef costar and his support of that awful man.
Wishing your channel all the growth, girl!! I cant believe it was just recommended to me-- finally, the youtube algorithm is algorithming. Also, as a black woman, I loved the show Daria. This representation is so much better than modern representation for black girls, either erased, or Woman King / Black Panther warriors.🙄
Thank you so much! Im so happy my videos are finally reaching who they’re meant for and people who also appreciate the conversation. I try not to let the algorithm get me down because I love this hobby regardless - but I’m so happy this video in particular was seen! & Omg I was going to reference the Woman King 😂🙄 I totally agree - One thing I wish I spoke more on was how feminine Jodie’s image is created to be and why that’s such a big deal.
Yes!! For us, feminine representation has become 'revolutionary', sadly😅 I really need to see a timeline of Blk female representation, I'm personally a 90's girl, so I literally saw the shift in black women representation in mainstream media go from the token black gal pal trope (fairly typical in appearance, feminine like all the other girl characters, but sidekick to a white female lead with no real life of her own), and morph into this strange masculine strong sjw warrior type of image over the years; this coinciding with black women finally getting roles that place us center stage. And of course the ever present 'mammy', 'sapphire' and 'jezebel' stereotypes were and are in many ways still prevalent too. But I digress. Thank you for making this channel and thoughtful video! Thank you for putting into words what a lot of us are feeling right now in such a poignant, intellectual way. And simultaneously breaking down one of my fav animated shows to boot! Imma make sure to share this video with my friends. Whatever direction you take this channel, I don't care. I'll be happy to watch gaming, video essays, show reviews (I saw that you like anime too??🥰) or you just shooting the breeze. I hope you keep doing what you're doing. I'm ecstatic to have found you and can't wait to see what you do next!❤✨
Coming across this video right AFTER I had finished watching this specific episode during my Daria rewatch is great because that little moment melted my heart.
Great video! Jodie is my favourite character from Daria - she's kind of like a foil to Daria herself - cynical and wise to the world, but replaces the defeatist flippancy with a drive to overcome how crappy the world is. It would've been very easy, particularly at the time, to make the show a post-racial utopia where Jodie and Mack are treated like everyone else and never discuss racism, but I'm so glad that the writers chose to address the pressure that Black people in majority-white areas must feel to perform and never slip up. Racism and stereotypes were acknowledged and discussed, but never played into, and unfortunately that still feels like something we're still learning today.
I loved this video! Yes, re-watching the series really gave me an appreciation for Jodie and how developed she was. It was great that she wasn't just there to respond to Daria and actually had stories where she was the focus.
I’m a mixed afab (assigned female at birth), and I remember struggling with self image at an alarmingly young age as well, so I can’t imagine how fully black girls feel. I’ve also noticed all these ways that black women have been cast aside, and it’s frustrating. Thank you for covering this.
19:26 but you made it for women's history month doh ❤🖤💚 and a deep dive on Jodie is always timely! I forgot how smart the writers of Daria were about race and tokenism. LOVED this show growing up. excellent analysis!
This is very specific, I'm not black but the first time i really noticed colorism, featurism, ect. was with Norbit. The movie has a lot of racist themes as it is but Kate was such a weird thing to me. Rasputia is portrayed as the loud, fat and unfaithful black woman who wears wigs, wears flashy clothes and is darkskin. Kate on the other hand was a biracial ethnically ambiguous woman with light skin, straight hair and was very thin and "proper". Kate in the movie as a kid was a little black girl who was the same color as norbit in the intro but as an adult casted as a biracial woman, why did it change once it came to her being "desirable"? as a kid it didn't sit right with me and now as an adult it's even worse. Colorism at it's most extreme in media, it's very sad to look at.
yup! exactly why i hate norbit and if you pay close attention every black male comedian who dresses up as a woman recreates those same colorist tropes with their characters. i HATE it
I'm glad I watched this video. I didn't realize how much I still internalize until I watched this perspective. I've also come up with my own approach to this.
I knew you were going to talk about the parade moment and it’s stuck with me over the years. I love Jodie and Daria’s dynamic and Jodie is one of my favourite black girl characters in media. We don’t often get hyper competent smart Blsck girls who are aware of all the BS that comes from being seen as one of the good ones. Thank you for stating that she’s a monoracial dark skinned Black woman as well because while I see mixed Black girls and women as Black, it gets annoying when they’re the only ones seen as attractive. That beautiful 4 year old baby girl saying she’s ugly broke me.
Fantastic video! My wife of 20 years is Black (I'm Metis) and I've learned so much about the Black experience from her, but I try not to make her do _all_ of the heavy lifting in that regard. We both enjoyed the video and have subscribed!
Such a good video, I literally cried twice. It got a bit tense for me in the back end because I'm a biracial black woman, but I'm not gonna argue with you....... because everything you said was right. Like if we're really splitting hairs, I don't think that the Two Black Parents vs One Black Parent experiences are completely unrelated - but they ARE different as you pointed out, especially when we're talking about colourism. For the purposes of this conversation though at the very least, I'm sure we can all agree - in the media, if a character is supposed to be black, *especially* if she's a black woman, then it's disingenuous to cast her as mixed and call it a day. It blatantly is false representation. Still, for me personally - I relate a lot to Jodie. Thanks for releasing this video - I'll check out your others and hope you'll drop more!
❤❤❤ thank you! Yeah I was nervous posting because I didn’t want to be misinterpreted or have my message misconstrued. But I think it’s important to have these conversations, especially because it’s not coming from a malicious place. Just very honest.
@@kythekunoichi Right! I'm sorry you felt nervous - I felt nervous commenting too! But you're right that it's important. For me it's very interesting culturally, because my heritage is specifically Caribbean British, which seems to be pretty different to the African American experience from what I've observed! Not super related to the video, but if you're curious - where I live, I've found that Black girls here are more likely claim and include me in the community whilst simultaneously understanding that our lives and experiences are different in ways. This country has had an ugly history of segregation, but the US has been immeasurably more severe about it, and I wonder if that's a factor that means African American women and girls have to more strongly distinguish themselves from us 🤔When I was younger I didn't really understand why I seemed to be accepted by my family's community in person but rejected online, but as I get older I find the cultural differences really interesting. Knowing that it's fraught and complicated, I really appreciate hearing perspectives like yours, so I can know best how to be respectful and not overstep. I hope one day the similarities between the experiences of monoracial and multiracial black women will make us stronger together, but that can't happen - especially in your country - while the media continues to pit us against each other and drive us apart. And yes, us mixed girlies are really lacking here - we NEED to not accept roles in media that don't belong to us! Thanks for having this discussion with me 🌸
This video was so great Ky! I knew it the moment you said Tom's name with so much disgust 😂😂 it's so lovely to get an analysis on a show I loved from the perspective of someone like me 😊 loved your insight on this
I'm a black dude with 3 sisters. I know the beginning warning was more or less for trolls and people who don't want to have a healthy discussion. But i really wish those people could stop and listen for a moment. Everyone has issues/problems/hardships but not listening to people with different perspectives than you is so dumb. Most of what was in this video I knew from my sisters, others i have met through life, or media/ writings from black women. But in this video it also helps break down a lot of complex feelings (and this is just the tip of the iceberg) in a simple and entertaining way. This video is great and keep it up! And i also wanna rewatch Daria again lol
Im so glad young people are looking to the shows that were popular when i was a teen. Honestly as a black girl in the 90s i dont know how we got here today. While the 90s werent perfect they were definitely the best it has ever been in my opinion.
Love this! Never watched Daria and had no idea it had such beautiful moments of representation. Like Issa, I’m always rooting for everyone black and everyone else less represented. Subscribed and looking forward to watching you grow, go get em, creator!!
Heartbreaking to see this vid get released literally within the same few days that it was revealed that Jodie was cancelled despite being a completed movie, continuing the abhorent practice of treating artists' work as disposable. Hopefully we can get some sort of movement going to get more attention brought to the issue
I'm biracial and latina, but I whitepass. I often write stories with latin/black characters and about latin/black characters, after all, I grew up with latin black people. I'm writing a romance book where the main girl is a black girl. When I tell you that I rarely heard anything about the story itself but it was all people commenting on how I'm "pushing for diversity" and how it's "forced representation", almost like what they're against is black stories. Daria has been a real inspiration for me on how to write my characters! So thank you for this video talking about her.
I binge watched all of Daria over the course of about a week and was really into it for a bit. I like it, there are parts that make me uncomfortable though, particularly the behavior of the adults in some episodes 😂
thank you so much for watching. for more videos like this, check out this playlist! - th-cam.com/play/PLicXhh_ija9fHJFkfUpuWs8SlwneXlkrn.html
For what it's worth, over the years, I've seen many characters who don't look white, whether biracial or not be portrayed as the most unlikable in the shows. Like Iris West from the flash, Ginny from Ginny and Georgia and Amber from Invincible. On the surface, companies will talk about how diversity is important, yet progressive people will often write minority characters to be unlikable, what are your thoughts on that?
@@RandomSkyeRosesGood point!
Anyone watched 3 Body Problem on Netflix? The entire series had 2 black women on screen, and they were both older women. Despite the fact they had a black male Fboy character who was sleeping with multiple attractive women, none of them were black.
it’s crazy that a cartoon from the 90s was more aware of why representation is important than media is today. it feels in some ways we’ve digressed.
Yep. And it's intentional. It's part of the demoralization of society, which was admitted by those who program the public via TV in the 70s
right! nowadays it feels more like people are pandering and being performative where as back then it was actual inclusion
Yes. It does feel performative now. Maybe because people are hyperaware of the issue now.
It was by and far the exception though, and not the rule. I think this is just far too small a sample to draw such a conclusion from
I wasn't basing just of Daria. There were a lot more black sitcoms and films in the 90s. you barely see them now @@SirArthurTheGreat
That tiktok of the little girl crying broke my heart, to think that a child so young already thinks of herself as ugly and that there's so many more like her, it's just awful.
Socialization starts young. Kids are hyper aware and it's important the media they consume is reflective of their phenotype. The doll test wasn't a sham most people INCLUDING Black folks prefer light, bright damn near white.
While thankfully I wasn't aware of colorism growing up I'm afraid that I'll be part of the problem if I choose to have a kid. The men that date me are non black, what if I have a kid will I be contributing to the degradation of dark skinned little Black girls? If I have a dark skinned daughter will I instill enough self esteem in her to where she doesn't need to bend it ova for male attention? It may seem like a non-issue but as someone that's hyper aware I know that the world prefers light skin, curly hair and green eyes.
And unfortunately we've been burdened with every single choice we make being political 🥹
Maybe she started crying because her face was grabbed and she was getting chewed out
Also can we talk about the animators making her hair look like how an actual black girl/teen in the 90s would unlike other shows were they give up and just give them straight hair 👍🏽
Yeah I'm not black but i do like do draw black women with all the braids, and i remember just kinda finding it weird as a kid to not see any black characters with them because most of the black people i know have braids
It's also fun to just come up with fun styles or just copy ones of people i know/have seen
Paraphrasing "people assume black people and biracial people are all black even though their experiences are different" SO TRUE! SO SO TRUE! GREAT video!
♥♥♥ thank you
So true. In the nineties especially the black girl representation was nearly always bi racial/light skinned black girls with Europeans features. Very damaging!
People assume it, because even within the black community black people who say all bi-racial people aren’t necessarily black tend to mostly be villainized for saying it, by the “POC” demographic that believe and push the narrative that all groups and cultures that are not Caucasian are black and thus some racial monolith.
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I adored Jodie Landon! I also liked Tiffany because she wasn’t the stereotypical Asian character who was a math wiz, I loved that she was shallow and stupid.
That’s a good point!!
Tiffany reminds me of London Tipton in that regard
Oh, that's a really good example :0
I agree although besides not watching Daria or remember watching it (it's good to not have stereotypes and just regular calm rep for evb), I think they've only shown two extremes. Like thinking back between now and then I've always seen the Asian that was spoiled w/ rich parents but always shallow no real nuance depth and ofc stupid asf, like they had their actual usage of braincell moments but they were always shallow and stupid while I was watching. Or those few times, stuck up and smarter than the normal kid studious but also still not that smart or good enough. And then I started to see like here and there (even w/ going back to watch other movies) the Asian wizkid. So basically to me it just was two very stiff stereotypical extremes, even if some of them were my fav characters. Bc why aren't the characters actually more balanced esp w/ getting actual rep? Not too smart, not too dumb it's not that hard or at least it shouldn't be, regular ppl. Anyways, it's good that evb can have rep and at least find something good with those character reps. (I don't necessarily hate the characters but again, when I did see asian rep it was those two basically black n white two opposite extremes that to me overtime was just like eh..this is not balance just cuz..just make a normal person not overtly shallow dumb gfn and not smart and meek or smart and stuck up etc.)
but dumb ditzy asians is another stereotype tho😭
i remember being 4 year old and thinking i'm ugly. my spirit breaks for that girl. i support you, all of u. much love.
❤❤❤ every time a little black girl says she’s ugly an angel loses its wings 🪽
The scene w the beautiful little girl who thought she was ugly hit a nerve . Made me cry a little . I remember in high school a white girl looked me dead in my face and said “I don’t think any black women can be attractive except Nicki Minaj” . Nicki Minaj has a ton of surgery . Smh .
I cried too! & Wow. I can relate. in high school this girl looked me dead in my face and said - “there’s no way Beyoncé can be black, she’s BEAUTIFUL”
… and I just recently found out one of my favorite kpop idols referred to Alicia Keys as “pretty for a black” SMDH
@@kythekunoichi ouch , not the emphasis on beautiful . we emanate so much power they try to tear us down and train us in self hatred alllll the way from our childhoods .
im sorry that happened to you
Nicki doesn't have face surgery just bottom body however it is still annoying and sad that it's always a mixed or popular and deemed pretty enough black girl (to their likes, from the only ones they know) to get compared to.
@@Boohurghhoo nah she had facial surgery too
"Im too smart and too sensitive to live in a world like ours" I'm such a daria. Love the self-awareness
"with a sister like mine." Cherry on the top.
When I went to high school there was a single black student. She was very kind, smart, even beautiful (not an important thing, just happens to be so:). When I had an allergic reaction to our wool skirt uniform things, she gave me some special cotton ones! She told me one day in our second year that she would really miss us but was changing schools because she felt really alone being the only black kid there 💔 I felt so bad for her and there is literally nothing we students could have done for her to make that better.
she actually even apologized when we were talking, in case it "sounded racist." MY HEART. 😢
...and yeah, it was a private parochial school. They were exempt from laws that would keep them from handpicking each student.
A friend of mines husband is Chinese and fortunately they live in Dublin, so their kid isn't the only Irish girl of Asian descent in the school, but she didn't want to go to Irish college because she knew every other kid there would be white and my heart absolutely broke for her (Irish college is one of the names we call a summer camp in a rural town where everyone speaks Irish, not English, so they get language immersion).
The "You must be Jodie's parents." made me laugh so hard. Love that show.
Oh dang, Brandy as a live action Jodie would be awesome. I've been meaning to go and rewatch Moesha. I watched a ton of it as a kid, but tbh don't remember much about it.
yo that entire scene and what followed was hilarious! 🤣
Is this if they are all in their 40s at a high school reunion ? I think Aubrey Plaza could be Daria. Jodie seemed modeled after Brandi when I watched the show back in high school.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail for this video I knew exactly the moment you were talking about and immediately felt so much warmth for that little girl. I was 15 when this episode aired and I still remember how good it felt to see Jodie stand up for her. 🥰
I’m sorry “twenty oh-two” threw me for a loop from which I never recovered 😂
Even I paused after I heard myself say it 🤣
It got me too 😂
@kythekunoichi nah I'm stealing that. I'm going to start saying I was born in twenty oh three
@@globisdead same here, 2003 twins!
I can’t think of a better casting than Brandy. There’s so many parallels between her & Jodi.
Right!!!!!!!
I gasped when I saw the two pics together! It'd be great!
Underrated opinion
All Daria Episodes are worth getting over analysed
I cannot believe the depth all characters have, even the shallow ones
Right - who are these writers??? They’re amazing
Yes totally agree I really hope a revival happens
Hard to believe it spawned from Beavis and Butthead
@@Man-Corgi yeah it is daria is truly one of the best spinoff shows ever never was a fan of that beavis show
@@Man-Corgi so did King of the Hill, lol, another one of my favorites!
Im gonna watch daria now. A little tear came down when the little girl appeared.
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Reminds me when Nichelle Nicholas almost quit Star Trek, until a talk with MLK Jr
I remember hearing it on the radio
WHAT? *runs to google*!!
Speaking as a white person who hopes and strives to be an ally, thank you for making this. Thank you for being willing to educate, for doing so through one of my favorite shows, and thank you for sharing your voice. We need more voices like yours. So you have my subscription and whatever my support is worth.
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"My phenotypes image" perfect I love it
That clip of the little girl saying she’s ugly made me cry.
I’ve never in my life seen a girl that young say that, idk that hit me really hard.
They did the same thing with Clawdeen Wolfe from the live action Monster High adaptation. I didn't even bother watching it. Clawdeen had a deeper complexion, while her sister Howleen read more ambiguous/Biracial. But a very light Biracial actress was chosen to depict Clawdeen. At the same time, the older and much less appealing role of the Headmistress was changed from a White woman to a richly melanated monoracial Black woman. (Which no one asked for them to do, it just seemed like some weird consolation prize). More than that, it felt like Black girls couldn't be part of the fun of monster High School fashionista shenanigans. Instead, the only Black female character was relegated to the sideline, the role of the caretaker, the mentor, and again adultified to be the literal oldest person in the cast. (Also somewhat a remix of the mammy trope). This change rubbed me the wrong way, I was excited to see a Black girl cast in a non-stereotypical paranormal/fantasy role. MH dashed those hopes.
Oh well.
I do want to see more media made by Black women where we can depict ourselves and do so respectfully and correctly, because there seems to be an concerted effort to maintain the status quo.
I don’t know much about monster high but I know exactly what casting you’re talking about. I’m going to have to research that. Sounds …interesting
Thank you!! ❤
And what was also annoying was the response from the fan base who justified the whitewashing and acted like their was zero difference between the actress they chose, and Clawdeen's actual skin color. It's a common thing in animation when darks skinned and Black characters are whitewashed, that people just act like the characters were never dark to begin with. Like Katara and Sokka in the live action Netflix series, Sokka is majority White, and Katara's actress has lighter skin. And when this is acknowledged, people act like Katara and Sokka were never brown and dark skin in the original animated show.
The director of that movie is the same one who made this INCREDIBLY racist movie in his early career, negatively and stereotypically depicting the magical "Redskin" Native as a solution to the white casts problems. The minute I saw that, I knew the MH movie would be a shitshow
It’s a really weird contrast between the G3 show and the live-action movies, in the show she’s a dark-skinned Afro-Latina closer in tone to the original Clawdeen, in the movies she’s light skinned and played by a light skinned biracial girl, it reeks of colourism.
I didn't have much hope for anything monster high related after seeing the voice actress wasnt black. They'd rather hire someone to imitate the voice than get an actual black woman.
This is lowkey one of my favorite videos now. I am mixed and the part about mixed women being cast as black women(not saying we arent black but you know what I mean) was so eye opening and profound. And the part about black little girls and preteens having no appropriate representation was also so correct. For me the only representation i had at my age was Zuri from Jessi. I loved her as a kid but I now recognize that she is somewhat of a stereotype. Having same age and age appropriate representation for black children is so so important yet so lacking. This video made me cry, Thank you.
thank you for watching! it IS sooo important
Bro Zuri was an awful character. Skai Jackson is beautiful but her role was bratty and definitely annoyed me then and it does even now. I think we need to respect Black introverts and Black people who are chill and aren't yelling all the time. Give them support. Give them kindness. All this murder gunshot stuff and raging about absolutely nothing is draining.
Jessica Cyndee Jackson was the voice actress for Jodie Landon. On Daria Wiki, they list her as a speech therapist and former voice actress.
Ayo Edebiri would be a great voice actor for Jodie !!! I really hope they go forward with this !!!
omg YESSS
I heard the Jodie spinoff was shelved again. I was really looking forward to it when I heard it might happen, so I'm pretty bummed out about this. Deadline JUST ran a story confirming that Comedy Central doesn't plan to move forward with the project. I hope it ends up finding a home.
Yeah me too daria deserves a revival because I'm si curious to see what happened to the characters
A show like Daria set in the modern day would be a breath of fresh air! Especially if it kept the level of writing and understanding the original one has.
This video was amazing, I do wanna say that moon girl and devil dinosaur has been a great example of black girl representation and I really hope we get more like it
YES! I agree - along with the girl in Percy Jackson. I’m taking notes!
Your point about how pre-teen girls don't really have role models in pop media these days hit hard, as a eastern european who's almost 30 and has no idea about children media in USA i can't speak much about it but as an adult foreigner most of my exposure to black women are hiphop music videos (which is welp😅) and some Hollywood movies, and TH-cam. And honestly, TH-cam is a saving grace and helps me get to know more about them in many aspects. I hope your channel gains the attention it deserves cause you're so well spoken and thoughtful!
You so perfectly captured why Jodie was my fave character of the supporting cast. She is just such a well-written and well-rounded character. One where her race dictates aspects of her character but isn’t her only attribute. And I’m not even a black girl, I just like those hyper-competent types thrusted into real life situations. Wish we had seen more of her. Great vid!
Edit: Obviously, I also 100% agree with your points on the importance of representation & role models!
Kipo and the age of Wonder beasts on Netflix has really cool black girl representation. Wolf is really amazing.
Daria is a life changing show.
i work in television. that clip of ariyonna struck a chord with me when i was in college, and really pushed me to get into this field. i want to do right by our babies.
Yes!! More of us need to be in the writers rooms, in the casting director's chair, and behind the cameras to counter the mess that black girls representation is today. I wish you the best in your career!!
Me too ❤ no one looks out for them and it bothers me so much.
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 8:03 8:03 😮😮
This is why i was so happy when Leah Jefrees was casted as anabeth in percy jackson, The immediate demonization of her casting while prevalent was slowly overshadowed by the more supporting side of the fandom that actually saw themselves in her or just understood that she was an amazing actor that shouldn’t have underestimated.No matter the opinions on her action which i believe were great, she is an beutiful representation to female black pre teens in media an being a male black pre teen this video helped materialize my thoughts when i saw she was casted and why i was so happy
I wasn’t expecting that scene with the little black girl to hit me in the feels as hard as it did, but it just hit so close to home. ❤️
Thank you for deep diviing on that part because as a black teen watching that scene living in very military town and being the token lol I FELT THAT SCENE!!!
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The storyline about Jody embracing her role as an inspiration for the little girl reminds me of Nichelle Nichols, Lt. Uhura on the original Star Trek series. As the first season’s filming went on, Ms. Nichols was not getting the scenes and story involvement that Gene Roddenberry had promised with she got the role. She was in the verge of quitting, when she received a letter from Dr. Martin Luther King. He told her how much it meant to people of color to tune into the show every week and see a black character l, especially a woman, sitting center stage, right behind Captain Kirk. Ms. Nichols was inspired to continue in the role. This had even more positive effects than were hoped for at the time, as in the early 70s, Ms.Nichols was contacted by NASA to be a part of their efforts to encourage and recruit women and minorities into space program.
I'm happy they don't have Daria just be ignorant to the racism. Tired of yt ppl just magically discovering that racism exists.
@traps-wg3gt yt = white
@traps-wg3gtshut up 🙄
@traps-wg3gtdon’t be slow
This is going in the save file
This came up on my recommendations and GODDAMN I’m subscribed now :). You brought up so many things I’ve been thinking about recently (esp with mixed/light skin girls being the only representation we get in media- like, don’t even get me started) there are so many constant silent messages being that being darker is “ugly” also omg I wanna hug that baby, that broke my heart.
Yesss!! Exactly. Same 🖤🖤🖤🖤 & thank you!!!
It came up n mines 2.
JESSS DARIA CONTENT. As a black girl who sees myself in Jodie heavily it's so comforting to find your channel.
The Jodie movie just got cancelled TODAY that’s so crazy
I hope it gets picked back up. I bet the pandemic and strike messed it all up.
Wow. I thought it was gonna be a series tho.
YES SO CRAZY I saw the article an hour before my video premiered!!!
@@maximusprime3459 it was going to be an animated series. They’ve been working on it since 2018 and MTV just let them go this weekk
@@kythekunoichi Thats a shame. Of all the revivals coming out, that one would've been good.
This episode of Daria was ahead of its time. Some things we can’t even show or discuss in television nowadays.
just hearing about that clip almost made me burst into tears because it's so real. doing things to show little black girls that anything is possible is my main reason to keep going. As an adult, i care way less about other peoples thoughts when doing and dressing how I love, and when I go to conventions all dressed up in cosplay and having fun, and little girls (with their supportive,thankfully, parents) come up to ask for a picture...it is a feeling thay cannot be beat. it is truly them, who I am living for. so they can be comfortable doing whatever they please.
awwwwwww!!! i feel the same way when I cosplay! i have a youtube short of black girl cosplayers from Momocon last year and i love it! such great representation!
Hey as a biracial women myself everything you just said is so fucking true. Even moving a white conservative town and having somewhat more “blackness” due not living a very white centric town before moving. I understand even if the racism I experience was very harsh and rash I can fully believe and even seen myself that it was not as brash and difficult compared to other black girls I knew or was friends with.
And having a biracial girl is not a same representation as a black girl. I was once doing volunteer work and dressed up as a fairy for my local Libary tea party. This young black mom and girl came up and the mom was thankful for me at least being there cause she doesn’t see a lot of other poc and black women doing this. It was honestly a great heartfelt moment but I do understand the implications of being accepted to even do local gigs is that you have to be lighter and also whiter features for people like seeing you.
Thank you for this video it’s a beautiful essay and I can’t wait to see more of Daria and other analyzation of media. (Also if reading this thank you for your time)
thank you for watching, thank you for you honestly!! (& thank you for this comment!)
@@kythekunoichi Can you explain to me why it seems like my parents are the only black American parents to move to an upper middle class white neighborhood! But has their children spend most of their our time in black neighborhoods during the weekends, holidays and summers? We went to church in black neighborhoods, we spent holidays in black neighborhoods. We went to prom and homecoming at our cousins schools in black neighborhoods, and joined majority black upward bound programs!
All these comments and stories on your channel p, even the show Daria suggest that a lot of black girls parents move to upper middle class white suburbs and just isolate then away from black neighborhoods and towns!!!
@@professorxaviour3649 a common trend i noticed, is that most parents move their kids to predominantly white neighborhoods because that county/area has better opportunities/resources for the kids than predominantly black neighborhoods. and we do the visits back to the old neighborhood to not forget our culture. it sucks but when i asked all my aunt and uncles why they moved that was the response lol
Totally agree with you on how mixed people have different unique issues than other poc
I'm half white half hispanic, but I never really felt like I fit in one or the other. Too dark for white spaces, not hispanic enough for hispanic spaces (especially since I never learned spanish)
In a lot of shows growing up I hade no representation. I didn't really identify with the white characters, but when I watch hispanic characters, it almost felt like apropriation. It never felt right
The first time I saw a show with a mixed character who looked compleatly different to one of their parents, I almost cried. Its now getting more and more common now that other mixed kids are making cartoons, and I'm happy my future kids will see rep they can identify with ❤
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I knew exactly the moment you were talking about from the thumbnail. This was such a great show, it was consistently entertaining all while surprising you by showing the hidden depths of people. Jodie is a character that's really stuck with me over the years, possibly more so than most any other supporting character in an animated show. I love this particular episode, the frustration she (and Mack) experience was so effectively delivered (even to a clueless teenager who was neither Black nor a woman) that even if you can't directly relate to it with first-hand experience, you comprehend why they sincerely felt so miserable. And the reason why she stayed was so smartly conveyed as well; the fact it was non-verbal too is just wonderful. They didn't need to spell it out, everything was expressed in their faces. It says so much.
What a great video. Please continue to make content like this. Low-effort reviews are a dime a dozen on this platform, we need more thoughtful analysis like this. There's an audience that wants and needs it.
this is so well written, i'm surprised this doesn't have more views
This was an amazing video and you summed up on how the the importance of black girl representation and the many issues of it today. It amazing how some representation ( not all) was better in the past then today. I hope you do more videos like this because more topics like this need to be discuss.
thank you! if thats what you guys want I definitely will!
That little girl saying she’s ugly is soul-crushing. What a fucked up culture we live in that would make a child feel that way
First time seeing any of your videos, but I instantly recognized the moment you were going to talk about. Having watched the show in its first run, she remains one of my favorite characters.
I hope that nonsexual positive depictions of black women becomes more of a trend. Thank you for pointing out Hallywood’s short comings and being true to your needs.
I felt this with Umbrella Academy. In the comics, Allison has dark skin, but they cast a light actress for the role :/ (idk for sure if she's biracial, but i think she is)
There are also darkskinned biracials. What is the comment. @chrrycola2717
allison is white in the comics
This happens in tons of comic book adaptations, but wasn't Allison white in the comics?
allison isnt black in the comics, but the writer did introduce a new character in hotel oblivion who seems like shes gonna be taking a bigger part in the next run (qhenever that happens) whose a black woman! that might be who youre thinking of
Seeing 4 very different Black women star in a show (Living Single) plus Jodie, Brandy, Lauryn Hill, Missy, etc in the 90s taught me I could be a Black Woman in any way I choose. It’s not just the representation, but also the quality of the representation.
This is a great video. The scene was always one that stuck in my mind because it so clearly shows the importance of representation. I genuinely think it’s one of the best take downs of tokenism in media that I’ve seen.
Never trust that any spin-off or reboot is happening until they start releasing trailers or marketing for it with a release date. Until then, it’s generally better to assume it’s not happening.
What’s crazy is one hour before my video premiered I found an article from earlier this week announcing the official cancellation of the spin off. So nah, I don’t think it’s happening right now either
Annabeth Chase in the Percy Jackson TV show I think is a good example for pre-teen girls imo
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Throwing in that Biracial Girl song in the background, I cackled so hard I had to replay that whole section 😂 this was so wonderfully put together and presented, i found myself nodding in agreement so many times. I look forward to watching more of your content!
😂😂😂😂😂 thank you for watching!!
Daria was one of my favorite shows in my late teens~early 20s. Every character felt alive and unique ❤
Incredible job,l! I’ve loved Daria for years now, and this exact scene has been one of the many defining reasons why I love it so much. Great job sharing your perspective and attachment to the character; can’t help but feel like you’re doing similar things for young black girls wanting to create content like so. ❤️
thank you!!!
Man... growing up I got so much racism thrown at me as a suburban black girl, and i didnt really fit in with anyone, not even other black girls around me bc they mainly were interested in sports while I liked music and arts (tho they were still the nicest to me!). Point is, I got SO MUCH racism and hate for just existing and when i called them out on being racist, i was called sensitive bc it was "jUsT a jOkE!" Okay well, if youre saying racist stuff don't be mad when someone "confuses" you for a racist!
Ive since told my therapist about this and girl, i think its time to start looking for a new one (This is a white guy!) He said, well they were teenagers just trying to say something shocking for their friends.
Yeah, they were racist teens saying racist shit to impress their racist friends 😮 that's information I already knew.
Selfishly itd be nice to talk abt how many of us even fell for this shit. Bc when i look back I wasnt immune to that type of language and neither were many of the other black girls around me, they also said racist shit abt other races in order to fit in. Ugh its disheartening and embarrassing.
I got the same in the 90s as black skater goth and punk rocker. Things were rough for us back then too. 42 now and nobody can tell me who I am, and what I can or can't like or how to be.
I think you should complain about that while changing therapists, he invalidated your experience while taking up for your bullies (which they always do, yt ppl always cover for their own)
Why did you choose to get a white male therapist?? I’m confused at that choice?
@@professorxaviour3649 I didn't choose. He was assigned to me bc that's what the free facility I went to offered me lol
@@jordanguillory7180 so why didn’t you immediately switch or say no to free therapy?.? It’s a white man! There is no reason why you should have sat down with him!!
As an old white dude I can't thank you enough for sharing all of this with us on TH-cam. I appreciate all the hard work you put into this, it was beyond exemplary and quite excellent
This is a good video 🤍 thank you for the parts about the “respectability politics” people looking down on HBCUs and especially about how preteen/teen black girls have literally 0 representation at all and are way over exposed to hyper sexual, violent and toxic imagery. All day. It’s so sad to me n I feel no one mentions it or is doing anything about it
well, it time to rewatch all of Daria again lol. awesome video!
Whenever I've binged Daria in the past that episode sticks with me especially that moment where she sees the girl. I like the writing decision to be implicit with why she chose to stay up there. It's one of those things of "if you know, you know". And I think that says more than anything that could actually be said in that moment
I'm so excited to see a Daria video, I ADORE Daria!! It's my favorite show ever. I really loved Jodie and Daria's dynamic so much, Jodie is a perfect balance and such an incredibly written character. I don't know, that show was just so so well done and I feel like so many new shows try to copy it's energy but they don't understand what was so good.
i cried over that little girl in the crowd that moment was SO beautiful.
it's not really related but I remember one time I was working at a store and a little girl came in with a "Turning Red" toy that looked JUST like her down to marching glasses and I was so excited that she had a doll that looked how she does.
it makes me so sad, because when I was a kid I would be so excited to get Barbie dolls that looked like Britney because it looked just like me. every little girl should have that experience, like that's such a SIMPLE thing. every little girl should feel beautiful
This is such an amazing video. You literally took the thoughts and feelings out my head and put them out. 10/10 as a monoracial black girl this video really hits home. Thank you so much for making it. Also when you had the conflicting scenes with the two women in Bridgerton I really was floored becauseI didn’t even think about that. I really wonder if it is unconscious bias by yt people to cast biracial women in those roles or if it is intentional, as black creators do it as well.
The gaslighting is crazy as well when you call it out and it becomes “we’re all black”. It’s disheartening.
Definitely intentional, a one off is an accident, this is a PATTERN, and a disturbing one at that.
Reminds me of ppl speaking on the purposeful always biracial in an add even with two black parents out of nowhere she's biracial like it's the new black (I mean they made it so atp but like ew we have enough problems just cast brownskin and darkskins unambiguously).
❤️❤️❤️❤️ thank you! im honestly so sensitive to this stuff. I struggled to finish Queen Charlotte because of this. there’s so much sneak dissing that goes on right in our faces.
Idk but after bridgerton I'm starting to feel like Shonda Rhimes actually secretly hates us. Why does she constantly do us like this??? (I'm including scandal and other projects by her where black women get the short end of the stick because Olivia's and Analises's portrayal and treatment is honestly problematic too)
@@kimberleywilliams7802 I think this every time i witness one of her projects. is it self hate? or is she just tryna get a check?
Unfortunately I heard that the Jodie show was cancelled, if I am not mistaken someone on twitter said she worked on the show ITS FINISHED and they are refusing to release it.
I love this video, its so insightful and honest!
I think this was the final push in getting me to watch the show in its entirety. Please never stop doing what you're doing. I love videos like these and more people need to talk about this stuff
thank you!!!!
Was shocked to see the low engagement on this. Love your work, I hope your get more accolades for it soon❤
thank you!! i appreciate it tons
subscribed and liked! love this video. Jodie was my little girl rep cuz suburban black girls do exist which is why I hated how Invincible fans treated the dark skin black love interest Amber poorly, saying she doesn't act black enough ugh. glad to see more monoracial black girls as multifaceted love interests like Leah Sava Jeffries in Percy Jackson, in that changing Annabeth from white to black enhanced the story's themes and wasn't just a diversity hire
I hate invincible for how they treated that poor girl. That and I side eye Steven Yeun ever since that drama with his the Beef costar and his support of that awful man.
This was a great vid, Daria is woefully under-analysed.
Wishing your channel all the growth, girl!! I cant believe it was just recommended to me-- finally, the youtube algorithm is algorithming. Also, as a black woman, I loved the show Daria. This representation is so much better than modern representation for black girls, either erased, or Woman King / Black Panther warriors.🙄
Thank you so much! Im so happy my videos are finally reaching who they’re meant for and people who also appreciate the conversation. I try not to let the algorithm get me down because I love this hobby regardless - but I’m so happy this video in particular was seen!
& Omg I was going to reference the Woman King 😂🙄 I totally agree -
One thing I wish I spoke more on was how feminine Jodie’s image is created to be and why that’s such a big deal.
Yes!! For us, feminine representation has become 'revolutionary', sadly😅 I really need to see a timeline of Blk female representation, I'm personally a 90's girl, so I literally saw the shift in black women representation in mainstream media go from the token black gal pal trope (fairly typical in appearance, feminine like all the other girl characters, but sidekick to a white female lead with no real life of her own), and morph into this strange masculine strong sjw warrior type of image over the years; this coinciding with black women finally getting roles that place us center stage.
And of course the ever present 'mammy', 'sapphire' and 'jezebel' stereotypes were and are in many ways still prevalent too. But I digress.
Thank you for making this channel and thoughtful video! Thank you for putting into words what a lot of us are feeling right now in such a poignant, intellectual way. And simultaneously breaking down one of my fav animated shows to boot!
Imma make sure to share this video with my friends. Whatever direction you take this channel, I don't care. I'll be happy to watch gaming, video essays, show reviews (I saw that you like anime too??🥰) or you just shooting the breeze. I hope you keep doing what you're doing. I'm ecstatic to have found you and can't wait to see what you do next!❤✨
I was just abt to ask what's wrong w/ the African warrior but looking at it that way nvm got it😅 just give us someone good n regular gosh no bs😭😭💚
Coming across this video right AFTER I had finished watching this specific episode during my Daria rewatch is great because that little moment melted my heart.
God I love Daria so much, this series will always stick to me. As cartoony and goofy the characters can be, they are written in a very human way.
ngl cried a little when she saw the little black girl in the crowd and immediately stood up
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As a teen/high school outsider in the 90s, Daria was one of my favorite TV shows. Love your analysis here.
Great video! Jodie is my favourite character from Daria - she's kind of like a foil to Daria herself - cynical and wise to the world, but replaces the defeatist flippancy with a drive to overcome how crappy the world is.
It would've been very easy, particularly at the time, to make the show a post-racial utopia where Jodie and Mack are treated like everyone else and never discuss racism, but I'm so glad that the writers chose to address the pressure that Black people in majority-white areas must feel to perform and never slip up. Racism and stereotypes were acknowledged and discussed, but never played into, and unfortunately that still feels like something we're still learning today.
Mack and Jodie are so great.
I loved this video! Yes, re-watching the series really gave me an appreciation for Jodie and how developed she was. It was great that she wasn't just there to respond to Daria and actually had stories where she was the focus.
Thank you for watching ❤️❤️❤️
I’m a mixed afab (assigned female at birth), and I remember struggling with self image at an alarmingly young age as well, so I can’t imagine how fully black girls feel. I’ve also noticed all these ways that black women have been cast aside, and it’s frustrating. Thank you for covering this.
Thank you for watching ❤❤❤
19:26 but you made it for women's history month doh ❤🖤💚 and a deep dive on Jodie is always timely! I forgot how smart the writers of Daria were about race and tokenism. LOVED this show growing up. excellent analysis!
thank you! and you're right !!!
for a 90s MTV animation, Daria was extremely intentional, aware and well written. especially when it came to culture.
This is very specific, I'm not black but the first time i really noticed colorism, featurism, ect. was with Norbit. The movie has a lot of racist themes as it is but Kate was such a weird thing to me. Rasputia is portrayed as the loud, fat and unfaithful black woman who wears wigs, wears flashy clothes and is darkskin. Kate on the other hand was a biracial ethnically ambiguous woman with light skin, straight hair and was very thin and "proper". Kate in the movie as a kid was a little black girl who was the same color as norbit in the intro but as an adult casted as a biracial woman, why did it change once it came to her being "desirable"? as a kid it didn't sit right with me and now as an adult it's even worse. Colorism at it's most extreme in media, it's very sad to look at.
yup! exactly why i hate norbit and if you pay close attention every black male comedian who dresses up as a woman recreates those same colorist tropes with their characters. i HATE it
I'm glad I watched this video. I didn't realize how much I still internalize until I watched this perspective. I've also come up with my own approach to this.
I love this show and how varied and facetted the characters were. Jodie's character was so well done from so many perspectives.
I knew you were going to talk about the parade moment and it’s stuck with me over the years. I love Jodie and Daria’s dynamic and Jodie is one of my favourite black girl characters in media. We don’t often get hyper competent smart Blsck girls who are aware of all the BS that comes from being seen as one of the good ones. Thank you for stating that she’s a monoracial dark skinned Black woman as well because while I see mixed Black girls and women as Black, it gets annoying when they’re the only ones seen as attractive. That beautiful 4 year old baby girl saying she’s ugly broke me.
just rewatched daria. was blessed with this video on my timeline. subscribed.
Great video, your channel deserves more attention 😁😁
Wow! thank you! such a compliment. I'll try to keep it up
Fantastic video! My wife of 20 years is Black (I'm Metis) and I've learned so much about the Black experience from her, but I try not to make her do _all_ of the heavy lifting in that regard. We both enjoyed the video and have subscribed!
Such a good video, I literally cried twice. It got a bit tense for me in the back end because I'm a biracial black woman, but I'm not gonna argue with you....... because everything you said was right. Like if we're really splitting hairs, I don't think that the Two Black Parents vs One Black Parent experiences are completely unrelated - but they ARE different as you pointed out, especially when we're talking about colourism. For the purposes of this conversation though at the very least, I'm sure we can all agree - in the media, if a character is supposed to be black, *especially* if she's a black woman, then it's disingenuous to cast her as mixed and call it a day. It blatantly is false representation.
Still, for me personally - I relate a lot to Jodie. Thanks for releasing this video - I'll check out your others and hope you'll drop more!
❤❤❤ thank you! Yeah I was nervous posting because I didn’t want to be misinterpreted or have my message misconstrued. But I think it’s important to have these conversations, especially because it’s not coming from a malicious place. Just very honest.
@@kythekunoichi Right! I'm sorry you felt nervous - I felt nervous commenting too! But you're right that it's important. For me it's very interesting culturally, because my heritage is specifically Caribbean British, which seems to be pretty different to the African American experience from what I've observed! Not super related to the video, but if you're curious - where I live, I've found that Black girls here are more likely claim and include me in the community whilst simultaneously understanding that our lives and experiences are different in ways. This country has had an ugly history of segregation, but the US has been immeasurably more severe about it, and I wonder if that's a factor that means African American women and girls have to more strongly distinguish themselves from us 🤔When I was younger I didn't really understand why I seemed to be accepted by my family's community in person but rejected online, but as I get older I find the cultural differences really interesting. Knowing that it's fraught and complicated, I really appreciate hearing perspectives like yours, so I can know best how to be respectful and not overstep. I hope one day the similarities between the experiences of monoracial and multiracial black women will make us stronger together, but that can't happen - especially in your country - while the media continues to pit us against each other and drive us apart. And yes, us mixed girlies are really lacking here - we NEED to not accept roles in media that don't belong to us! Thanks for having this discussion with me 🌸
Thanks for doing this, I'm 42 and this takes me back.
Great content. I just watched all the Daria re-runs. The show was cutting edge and we can learn a lot from the show’s themes, lessons and plots.
This video was so great Ky! I knew it the moment you said Tom's name with so much disgust 😂😂 it's so lovely to get an analysis on a show I loved from the perspective of someone like me 😊 loved your insight on this
I'm a black dude with 3 sisters. I know the beginning warning was more or less for trolls and people who don't want to have a healthy discussion. But i really wish those people could stop and listen for a moment. Everyone has issues/problems/hardships but not listening to people with different perspectives than you is so dumb. Most of what was in this video I knew from my sisters, others i have met through life, or media/ writings from black women. But in this video it also helps break down a lot of complex feelings (and this is just the tip of the iceberg) in a simple and entertaining way. This video is great and keep it up! And i also wanna rewatch Daria again lol
🥹❤️❤️❤️ thank you! You’re so right
Im so glad young people are looking to the shows that were popular when i was a teen. Honestly as a black girl in the 90s i dont know how we got here today. While the 90s werent perfect they were definitely the best it has ever been in my opinion.
That was my favorite moment, i haven't even seen the videos yet, but i loved that thumbnail
Love this! Never watched Daria and had no idea it had such beautiful moments of representation. Like Issa, I’m always rooting for everyone black and everyone else less represented. Subscribed and looking forward to watching you grow, go get em, creator!!
This might be my favorite video on TH-cam
just went through your channel after seeing this video, I'm happy to see other nerdy analytical kpop loving black girls ❤❤
Heartbreaking to see this vid get released literally within the same few days that it was revealed that Jodie was cancelled despite being a completed movie, continuing the abhorent practice of treating artists' work as disposable. Hopefully we can get some sort of movement going to get more attention brought to the issue
I'm biracial and latina, but I whitepass. I often write stories with latin/black characters and about latin/black characters, after all, I grew up with latin black people. I'm writing a romance book where the main girl is a black girl. When I tell you that I rarely heard anything about the story itself but it was all people commenting on how I'm "pushing for diversity" and how it's "forced representation", almost like what they're against is black stories.
Daria has been a real inspiration for me on how to write my characters! So thank you for this video talking about her.
I binge watched all of Daria over the course of about a week and was really into it for a bit. I like it, there are parts that make me uncomfortable though, particularly the behavior of the adults in some episodes 😂