I don't think you know anything about trucks. Everything you say about each truck is generic opinion. You say every one was bad because of the lack of an automatic transmission. No one had automatics in class 8 trucks in those years. Allisons were very expensive. You say cab overs are bad for maneuverability and then in 10 seconds later, you say cab overs are great for maneuverability. Which is it? Your video is just stealing pictures and you make generic comments about them, which are largely wrong. Is there any point? Or is it just filler hoping someone will click on them and generate ad revenue ? --Doozer
By the way Doozer,you are right,this whole thing is a pack of inaccuracies,I don't remember any large trucks of those times being a smooth riding truck,,but most drove nice,the transmissions were not hard to drive once a driver got the hang of it,and even easier when you learn the art of floating gears, most were quite dependable,and the diesel engines were for the most part very good performers,and almost all truck makers offered Cummins, Detroits, Caterpillar engines, in addition to Mack,and Internationals offering the previous mentioned engines along with their own engines.They also offered the same transmission,and axles along with some of the same axles and other components.I think if one chooses to watch this,it would be better with the volume off.
@@kooldoozer I worked Desert International in the mid seventies and the sold a few Transtar s that were ordered with Allison HT750s and Detroit 8 V 71s,and one of the sales man sold a few Fleet stars,withHT740s with hydraulic retarders,but you are right a lot of them ,in fact most of them were manuals, because the Automatics were still a pricey option, but in the mid seventies they sold a few to private companies.
Soooo, let’s make a video about trucks and literally screw up nearly every part of it with either using false information or omitting so much information that none of it is relevant.
So you say the White 9000 is a COE and show pictures of a conventional cab. Several such errors. COE was pretty much required by length limits. You don’t know jack about heavy duty trucks.
This guy is not a truck man that's obvious,,,in Australia the Kenworth k100 and the white road commander the Autocar by white were legends used in the outback for road train operations,,, the Volvo N10 was used in the short haul operations,,,all these trucks were used in Australia and did very well,,, this guy has no idea !!🇦🇺👍
Sounds like he's trying to remember what that drunk "expert" told him at the tavern last week. Every truck ever made has drivers that like them, others that don't. This is just stupid.
Im glad to see that most everyone commenting thinks this is garbage and automatic transmissions dont belong in class 8 trucks if you cant shift a mannual keep your ass out of a truck
White 9000 is a "classic cabover"? It's a short hood conventional. Where the engine is partially recest into/under the cab. Which was common in the 70's
Pick another topic. Clearly, your knowledge of that decade is vague, at best. Goband do a bit more research on these trucks, or any truck, then make your content.
I’ve never been a Truck Driver. Just a “car guy “ [ who at least knows how to drive a manual]. Even I can see this guy knows nothing. That’s pretty bad. Heck, some of these “hated, unwanted “ trucks were EVERYWHERE. 😑
The market for trucks was very competitive back in the seventies and eighties. Every manufacturer showcased different features to appeal to different requirements. Some were really good, but none were perfect. We have to keep in mind that the purpose of these trucks was heavy hauling. Driver comfort was a secondary consideration for certain manufacturers. In addition, looks didn't get the job done. Maintenance and reliability were additional factors.
This guy don’t know shit Farmers & small trucking companies loved Chevy Bisons & Bruins Farmers loved to see these at Rural Chevrolet dealers when they would go in to pick out a new C-10 or 20 and a new Impala or Caprice for the Wife they usauly bought a new Bison day cab fully equipped Detroit motor & 10 or 13 spd the rural Chevy dealer always had one sitting there or even Two Bisons with a real pretty paint job & plenty of Chrome
They don't know anything. The transtar and cl9000 was popular. The k100 is still popular today for people who still drive them. Who use a class 8 truck as daily driver
Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m wondering. Where did that come in now? I’ve seen a few conversions for like campers and of course there’s that picture of the one with the pick up truck bed on it but it’s not like you just see them all over the place me drove bypeople
The worst wasted minutes of my life you never drove a truck perhaps next time you can produce a video of your coloring crayons making a truck. I drove a five and four I'm sure you have no idea what the hell that is has Michael Jackson would say quote you ignorant fool""
The narrator is obviously not a driver or a mechanic, he must be reading somebody else's inaccurate and terrible research or lack thereof . The Dodge, White, GMC, Volvo were al cheaply made and were more of a large fleet vehicles . 3048 cubic inches? The guy doesn't know a 3408 is the model, not the c.i. , I never saw a 3408 in a snubnose White but maybe and from the dealership, most 3408 were 450 to 480 HP. All cabovers of that era are going to have a rougher ride, you're sitting right over the axle. First, I never saw an automatic trans. back then in anything other than a garbage packer, trucks like the White Road Xpediter. Mostly Allisons or SundStrand automatics. were used. If trucks had a power problem, it was because you ordered the wrong engine for the application of the truck. If you ordered a road truck with a DD318 to haul 100,000 lbs, it was going to be underpowered. The CL Ford could be got with a Cummins KT1150 cubic inch engine or 18.8 litres. The cab was, 4 corner airbags and was a little like being in a small boat. All drivers I interacted with liked the truck. It had all the problems that cabovers came with. The 4070A was a good truck but had pretty bad vibrations in the cab at Idle to 1300 RPM. The vibrations were so bad, you had to take it to 1300 RPM and above to look out of the sideview mirrors. In 1978 I crawled all over a new 4070A with a vibration meter to check this by the Cummins Engine Company. It was not the engine causing the vibrations, it was cab design. I was a truck mechanic in the 70s until switching to construction field mechanic in 1980.
during the 70's and 80's worked for truck company customer was in a wreck and damaged his Mack dump truck front end.radiator hood lights etc,he had an old dodge truck front end he installed on the truck wired the hood in places radiator from the dodge. weirdest truck you ever seen, he ran it for several months till he had made enough to buy the Mack parts.
These trucks were made strong with metal not plastic,,,they all played a role in the trucking story,,, and the Western Star is a good tough trucks,,, this guy has no idea,,,
Dude, I don’t think you even research this. Let’s pick the easy one K100. That was still is by far the most popular cab overs. You can no longer purchase one in the United States, but there are trucks like that still active in Australia that are brand new. It’s almost as if you didn’t do any research. Another thing automatic transmissions were not available in class eight trucks and it’s within the past 10 to 20 years that they’ve become available in class 8. I suggest you go in do research before you put out another video.
Lucky for me, I went straight to the real entertainment, with real people who have some actual knowledge. I don't know who puts this waste of time together, but you should thank the comment section for making it worthwhile.
I call bullshit on the western star 4900 I own 2 right now they are really nice trucks they ride like a Cadillac and the cab is comfortable and quiet they are second only to paccar
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You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about
I don't think you know anything about trucks. Everything you say about each truck is generic opinion. You say every one was bad because of the lack of an automatic transmission. No one had automatics in class 8 trucks in those years. Allisons were very expensive. You say cab overs are bad for maneuverability and then in 10 seconds later, you say cab overs are great for maneuverability. Which is it? Your video is just stealing pictures and you make generic comments about them, which are largely wrong. Is there any point? Or is it just filler hoping someone will click on them and generate ad revenue ? --Doozer
Well,that's not necessarily true, Detroit Diesel Allison offered an automatic for class 8 trucks,a good transmission, but not a cheap option.
By the way Doozer,you are right,this whole thing is a pack of inaccuracies,I don't remember any large trucks of those times being a smooth riding truck,,but most drove nice,the transmissions were not hard to drive once a driver got the hang of it,and even easier when you learn the art of floating gears, most were quite dependable,and the diesel engines were for the most part very good performers,and almost all truck makers offered Cummins, Detroits, Caterpillar engines, in addition to Mack,and Internationals offering the previous mentioned engines along with their own engines.They also offered the same transmission,and axles along with some of the same axles and other components.I think if one chooses to watch this,it would be better with the volume off.
@@patrickmcgoldrick8234 I don't think ANYONE ever ordered an Allison in the 70s or 80s in a class 8 truck. Maybe the Army, but probably no one else.
@@kooldoozer I worked Desert International in the mid seventies and the sold a few Transtar s that were ordered with Allison HT750s and Detroit 8 V 71s,and one of the sales man sold a few Fleet stars,withHT740s with hydraulic retarders,but you are right a lot of them ,in fact most of them were manuals, because the Automatics were still a pricey option, but in the mid seventies they sold a few to private companies.
I think you hit the nail on the head bro.
Delete this. Almost everything said was wrong.
Soooo, let’s make a video about trucks and literally screw up nearly every part of it with either using false information or omitting so much information that none of it is relevant.
The Kenworth K100 not a popular truck? Better change what you're smoking
Absolutely russ it was a classic loved by millions of people in the trucking business 👌
Bucket O Bull
@@shellyweiers121Very much so and popular with owner/operators. Custom built with beautiful interior options
About the K 100 being a bad truck
The K100 was the Top choice for O/O, even more so with the introduction of the Aerodyne.
You obviously have know freaking idea what you are talking about!!!!!
i want to reclaim the time i lost watching this
So you say the White 9000 is a COE and show pictures of a conventional cab. Several such errors. COE was pretty much required by length limits. You don’t know jack about heavy duty trucks.
I could not finish watching this video.Crap.
This guy is not a truck man that's obvious,,,in Australia the Kenworth k100 and the white road commander the Autocar by white were legends used in the outback for road train operations,,, the Volvo N10 was used in the short haul operations,,,all these trucks were used in Australia and did very well,,, this guy has no idea !!🇦🇺👍
You've obviously never been in the trucking industry
This guy is crazy,not many facts here!
Sounds like he's trying to remember what that drunk "expert" told him at the tavern last week. Every truck ever made has drivers that like them, others that don't. This is just stupid.
the 70 the only difference between trucks was cab and frame you could order with any options you wonted
Im glad to see that most everyone commenting thinks this is garbage and automatic transmissions dont belong in class 8 trucks if you cant shift a mannual keep your ass out of a truck
This nararator lacks knowledge probably never drove a Class 8 Heavy Duty transport trucks
Or a pickup truck with a manual transmission.😮🤣
Well, I’m 3 or 4 minutes dumber for trying to watch this crap. See ya.
Who did the survey I think you're nuts
Also underpowered these engines could be turned up to whatever you want
White 9000 is a "classic cabover"?
It's a short hood conventional. Where the engine is partially recest into/under the cab. Which was common in the 70's
My opinion that CAT 3406B is still the best most reliable diesel ever made, but them Detroits 6v92 had the best sound
Pick another topic. Clearly, your knowledge of that decade is vague, at best. Goband do a bit more research on these trucks, or any truck, then make your content.
I’ve never been a Truck Driver. Just a “car guy “ [ who at least knows how to drive a manual].
Even I can see this guy knows nothing.
That’s pretty bad.
Heck, some of these “hated, unwanted “ trucks were EVERYWHERE. 😑
Didn't know that I was driving such bad pieces of equipment back then. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The only one you got right was the cabover Freightliner. They leaked and made all sorts of noise. It's like you know absolutely nothing about trucks.
This is what you get when all you have ever driven is a conv
This is what you get when you haven't driven a truck!
"it's niche focused on commercial applications, ignoring those who would use it for personal use". Huh? They are commercial vehicles!
The market for trucks was very competitive back in the seventies and eighties. Every manufacturer showcased different features to appeal to different requirements. Some were really good, but none were perfect. We have to keep in mind that the purpose of these trucks was heavy hauling. Driver comfort was a secondary consideration for certain manufacturers. In addition, looks didn't get the job done. Maintenance and reliability were additional factors.
I would want at least 11 of them !!
I’ve rode in a bunch of them back in the 70s my dad drove.
AI bull $&it 6v53 DD were a light medium duty engine never used in a class 8 truck this is all BS
This guy don’t know shit Farmers & small trucking companies loved Chevy Bisons & Bruins Farmers loved to see these at Rural Chevrolet dealers when they would go in to pick out a new C-10 or 20 and a new Impala or Caprice for the Wife they usauly bought a new Bison day cab fully equipped Detroit motor & 10 or 13 spd the rural Chevy dealer always had one sitting there or even Two Bisons with a real pretty paint job & plenty of Chrome
Farmers loved I-H Transtar Cabover
its odd that America doesn't used cab over engine big rigs but other countries still do strangely
Length laws.
Bro, did you make this video just so people can make fun of you each one of these vehicles or extremely popular for their time
They don't know anything. The transtar and cl9000 was popular. The k100 is still popular today for people who still drive them. Who use a class 8 truck as daily driver
Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m wondering. Where did that come in now? I’ve seen a few conversions for like campers and of course there’s that picture of the one with the pick up truck bed on it but it’s not like you just see them all over the place me drove bypeople
The worst wasted minutes of my life you never drove a truck perhaps next time you can produce a video of your coloring crayons making a truck. I drove a five and four I'm sure you have no idea what the hell that is has Michael Jackson would say quote you ignorant fool""
THEY ARE ALL GOOD TRUCKS AND THE POWERLINER DID NOT HAVE A POWER PROBLEM
They used to call the Freightliner, the Freigtshakers for being so harsh and cheap.
In other words, every cab over truck ever built.
Calling the Autocar A64 junk? You are a clown
The narrator is obviously not a driver or a mechanic, he must be reading somebody else's inaccurate and terrible research or lack thereof . The Dodge, White, GMC, Volvo were al cheaply made and were more of a large fleet vehicles . 3048 cubic inches? The guy doesn't know a 3408 is the model, not the c.i. , I never saw a 3408 in a snubnose White but maybe and from the dealership, most 3408 were 450 to 480 HP.
All cabovers of that era are going to have a rougher ride, you're sitting right over the axle.
First, I never saw an automatic trans. back then in anything other than a garbage packer, trucks like the White Road Xpediter. Mostly Allisons or SundStrand automatics. were used.
If trucks had a power problem, it was because you ordered the wrong engine for the application of the truck. If you ordered a road truck with a DD318 to haul 100,000 lbs, it was going to be underpowered.
The CL Ford could be got with a Cummins KT1150 cubic inch engine or 18.8 litres. The cab was, 4 corner airbags and was a little like being in a small boat. All drivers I interacted with liked the truck. It had all the problems that cabovers came with.
The 4070A was a good truck but had pretty bad vibrations in the cab at Idle to 1300 RPM. The vibrations were so bad, you had to take it to 1300 RPM and above to look out of the sideview mirrors. In 1978 I crawled all over a new 4070A with a vibration meter to check this by the Cummins Engine Company. It was not the engine causing the vibrations, it was cab design.
I was a truck mechanic in the 70s until switching to construction field mechanic in 1980.
Not sure who made this video but they need to stop
The four I like that forward I like that ford cab over their calls
I had to mute the volume so I could at least enjoy the pictures of some very cool and sought after trucks.
I would love to see all these trucks come back…. Miss those cabovers
Ta, the white a COE? Looked like a conventional to me. And what is a Foden? Ur video is crap
AI generated click bait here! don't bother.
Somebody please educate this person!!!
during the 70's and 80's worked for truck company customer was in a wreck and damaged his Mack dump truck front end.radiator hood lights etc,he had an old dodge truck front end he installed on the truck wired the hood in places radiator from the dodge. weirdest truck you ever seen, he ran it for several months till he had made enough to buy the Mack parts.
These trucks were made strong with metal not plastic,,,they all played a role in the trucking story,,, and the Western Star is a good tough trucks,,, this guy has no idea,,,
Look at the price they are going for now,, wish I had one
Dude, I don’t think you even research this. Let’s pick the easy one K100. That was still is by far the most popular cab overs. You can no longer purchase one in the United States, but there are trucks like that still active in Australia that are brand new. It’s almost as if you didn’t do any research. Another thing automatic transmissions were not available in class eight trucks and it’s within the past 10 to 20 years that they’ve become available in class 8. I suggest you go in do research before you put out another video.
I love Autocars the old ones are classic.
All his information is not accurate, I have driven them all and they worked fine.
K100 is an excellent truck!
The cl 9000 cool
Did anyone have an automatic transmission in the 70s?
All these trucks ruled the road in there prime this guys a jack ass 😊
This seemed like a lot of generic BS to me.
Wow, you are the opposite of advanced
Dont waste your time.
Are you watching the same thing we are you're saying cabover we see conventional cab
😆 yea the last one
Lucky for me, I went straight to the real entertainment, with real people who have some actual knowledge. I don't know who puts this waste of time together, but you should thank the comment section for making it worthwhile.
Who dropped you on your head boy
I call bullshit on the western star 4900 I own 2 right now they are really nice trucks they ride like a Cadillac and the cab is comfortable and quiet they are second only to paccar
Kw, peterbelt dam good long if you got a cat
Cab over international...kinda 1 every 1/2 mile in the day
Nevertheless these are all cool trucks. I just saw them out their on the highway. Great era.
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I have drove all of these trucks and had no problems and I drove 16 and a half yrs