Let's talk about bailing ships..... But not by our; the player, doing... How many of you have been witnessing this? Have you found a reliable way to get more ships to bail?
@T-Skillet I setup laser towers as a blockade for certain key gates (Hat Choice, eg) where teh Xenon like to move their ships into faction space, and I set a Cerberus frigate to collect drops and lay down more laser towers as needed. Doing this I have captured nearly ALL of my station miners and defense patrol ships, and have increased my rep with ARG and HAT factions to boot. I currently have about 25 or so PEs, SEs, Fs and another larger ship (H?) thanks to this strategy. The chances of ships bailing are now much more reasonable than they ever have been, and it makes the game a little more realistic given that all of these races sooner or later get into skirmishes where ships get destroyed. I like the new mechanic, and it has been a godsend in new playthroughs where a new player starting out is given a decent chance to capitalize on the losses of others...
I’ve done something similar. However what I did was build an actual gate around the gate itself 😉 all split defense platforms armed with TER Lasers (both M & L turrets) nothing gets by that gate 🤣 and the freak chance one does it’s severely damaged and taken care of by the patrols 🤣
I haven't played much since the update, but here are my observations: Had a PE bail next to a gate defense station while OOS, where the local drop gatherer notified me and claimed it. That PE is missing most of its equipment. Pre-7. I would find abandoned ships near faction fleets engaged in combat, typically small ships. Have seen this both in and out of sector. Pre-7. Would find occationally that one of my patrolls, typically ones with one M and 5 or more fighters set to intercept, may get an M or smaller to bail. Typically see this out of sector. Pre-7. Have seen ships bail under flack bombardment but they typically end up destroyed before the AI stops firing.
A good way to saturate a spot is to set a ship with large carrying capacity (I usually use a Cerberus) to defend a small area, say about 4 or 5 km. Then spam click the deploy consumable button. I pause the game and use a keyboard macro to repeatedly click, just to save my mouse and finger. As the ship traipses around the area it will release a tower (preferably mk 2 because they take longer and so spread out) around the area.
Bailing always happened, however if you weren't fighting a faction, only pirates had that option (Xenon and Kha'ak did not). You could also find ships that were attacked by pirates that bailed, I deactivated the notification for finding derelict ships because with my own fleet never being attacked (Barbarossa ftw) and no need for Patrols, yeah Pirates were running amok among the NPC ships. Now with the Xenon ships bailing you just notice it much easier as they are always hostile. For ship "farming" just let some ships patrol areas with factions fighting each other with the order to claim any ship. Should also work close to Xenon sectors once you setup some defence there. Basically like ships that collect drops but this time for ships.
i usually park a guppy full of boron fighters with the boron guns near a xenon gate and get lots of bails. got 20 PE 3 B 7 F in a couple of SETA hours. BTW sometime the xenon ship bail and destroy some of the equipment and then you need your own wharf to fix them.
I keep restarting my game, because of new ideas. That said, I set about 200 laser tower mk1’s at xenon gates. I can reliably grab 6 Fs or PE’s, and some times SEs and I almost got to a Chimera. Regarding the missing drones, I had to zoom out on the map and search "Drone." Found them slowly crossing systems attempting to "recall subordinate." I strip claimed ships in the "upgrade/repair" before selling the ship. It gets me more money. Don’t forget to repost crews to other places before selling. I’ll probably restart my game again after this. Cheer all. o7
@@T-Skillet indeed! Right after I typed that comment I restarted and chose "stranded." I forgot how much fun clawing up from broke is, in this game. For the first time since 4.0 when I started playing, the abandoned Odyssey in Faulty Logic had its main batteries! After stripping I got 13M credits! In all previous attempts, I got around 8M! Now to try the Hatikvah's League and SCA stuff. Never did their stories. Cheers!
So I recently restarted playing X4 and got first carrier. A shark with a lot of boron fighters to block the Vigor syndicate from leaving their sector. My fighters are good at killing shield, not so good at killing hull. This led to me now having a lot of Kyds at my disposal.
I like the kyd but I like all Vig ships. To me they are believable, along with their stations! Trapped with little to no resources to build anything new. Totally great!! What is your boron fleet made of fighter wise?
A bunch of Barracudas with 2x ion gatling + phase cannon. Later I integrated the Kyds with a less hull frienly load out. Ever since it feels like I've less ships bailing.
How did your barracudas fair? I haven’t had one in a long time. Well… since it first came out. Loved the Barracuda though, just couldn’t figure out where it fit into a fleet at the time.
That’s the big question!! Right now I’m in the same boat…. I’ve done laser towers, drones, myself and the fleet…. Only got two and that was by myself…. Killed three but got two to bail.
I am struggling to truly figure out how to use carriers properly. Not sure what I need to do to actually do proper fleets with various fleets. Not sure if there is enough need for this type of video because I cant really find it.
I have two video…. They are older though and things have changed! So be warned. I’ll make an updated one soon. But they are under the Let’s Talk playlist, OOS Carrier combat.
@@T-Skillet thanks. I saw that one. I was more talking about in system. I’m not even sure I am using my Aux ships correctly 🤣. My fleets shoot but not sure all the resupply and repairs are happening.
Do you have a trade ship attached to your Aux ship? I will say currently i don't L class ships docking with the Aux ship work all that well. I'd suggest they typical position protect order and let the enemy come to you. Unless you order the lead ship to attack.... then theoretically all Attack with should attack the commander's target while intercept ships (IN MY MIND) should attack everything else.... However i'm sure its a general attack order. Also a shoutout to @ragnos28.... His videos might help you.
Strange, but I seen a lot of empty ships in 5.0 and 6.0. My miners and traders call me like every hour about empty ships. This mostly happened in a sectors with lot of pirates and police.
I don't have data to back this up, but seems to me large amounts of small hits triggers more ship bailings than a few high damage hits. I had one gate guarded by a squadron of 10 heavy fighters and did not seem to be many bails, but had another gate guarded by 20 light fighters and they got 5 or 6 bails. Very possible the heavy fighters were killing the targets before they could complete the bails.
To increase this likelihood, I cover a small radius around key gates with laser towers as a defense blockade, and I can't tell you how many XEN and ZYA ships I've been able to capture, mostly S and M size ships, of course. For the bigger ships, I have L destroyers on patrol and they distract those targets while I swoop in with an M class freighter full of veteran marines, LOL!!!
I found a bailed ship way back in 1.0 or smth, I think it was a Falcon Vanguard. It was the only time I found a bailed ship that wasn't forced to bail by me in vanilla. I mostly play with mods, so my current game looks a lot different to a vanilla game and as such any data regarding that is useless.
Dunno if it works out of sector, But hanging around Xenon invasion Gates like in Hatikvas, has left a few Xenon ships to collect. - I've found Xenon ships, Hs that didn't have all their turrets.
In 7 they made the xenon ships flyable, and thus they had to be changed to bail. However that change wasn't balanced as so many bailed. I had a fleet of PEs, Bs and a few Fs. In pre 7 days though, I have seen other ships bail from NPC fire. My assault on the Vig station took my fleet through a cascade of Kyds and a few decided to bail. Whilst I won't swear to it as it was a long time ago, I wimped away from that fight (part cowardice, part FPS issues). I think they just upped the bail chance and that's why we're seeing it now. As for farming, I wouldn't bother. You're likely to lose more ships than you gain.
Setup laser tower blockades at some key gates and you won't lose any ships and conversely will be pinged by your scouts ships scooping up all the drops about abandoned ships in that gate area. I have an M frigate on collect drop duty in front of that pesky gate into XENON territory in Hatikvah's Choice, and I have yet to lose any ships in that sector. I just add additional laser towers as I need and continue capping everything the Xenon send through that gate. Even K's and I's eventually get captured by an M freighter I have loaded with Veteran marines. Again, no losses anywhere, just having fun depleting the Xenon scourge of their ships.
@@T-Skillet I hate the vig, the way to get them is destroyers kitted out for anti-fighter (eg L beam + M flak) along with a heap of fighter cover. Its quite fun to watch, even if its at 1FPS!
You see, I love love love X4. LTS (Long Term Strategy) games have ALWAYS been of an interest to me. I even had more love for X3 with the exclusion of getting mods to work. However, I've kind of fallen OUT of love with the game. Unless I'm missing something, it's such a type of grind that no matter what grind you do, and how well you do it, you're not going to win and you will succumb to the Xenon no matter what. I decided to kick up a game with a lot of cheat mechanics in it. HUGE cheat mechanics. Spawn in 50 massive ships with insane weaponry. Turn on fleet invulnerability. Just prance through every system cleaning their stuff out, and I cannot, for the life of me, figure out WHY I keep getting bombarded with MORE. Even if I did decide to keep to myself, after a certain point, every other faction starts losing out to the Xenon. Constantly. They can't keep up any better than I can, and I'm playing in a few systems to myself. Am I missing something here, or is this game just rigged to be not "winnable"? My version of "Winnable" is being able to build up a corp of my own where I'm profitable, and have my systems defend themselves, but, I'm constantly being "harassed" and losing stuff because Xenon just "spawn in".
I’m not gonna say it’s hard to win. In fact it can be easy at times! Depends on the capital ships you have their capability and how much attention you want to put towards the Xenon. Currently and this has not alway been the case but Kha’ak have been super annoying. The game is definitely a grind game. Just got to stick with it.
There's no "reliable" way to get them to bail OOS sadly, considering the bail check has a 30 second cooldown, and its math is based on shield%, hull%, max hull and pilot skill (both attacker and target) and OOS combat is just numbercrunching die roll. A 5-star pilot+morale AI would have the same chances as you do to make the target bail, though. If all OOS combat was calculated and simulated like IS combat, then you'd likely get even more bailing.
@@T-Skillet I'll be honest with you; I've no idea when it comes to laser towers. My suspicion is that each tower is considered as a 0-star attacker, so each of them might get their own separate trigger attempt. Don't quote me on that though, as I've yet to put that theory to the test.
I have a Boron XL Carrier with 80 Ares on a gate defence mission up at Zyarth Dominion. Overnight (I play with no SETA) i tend to find between 2 to 5 PE's, 1 or 2 SE's and very rarely an F I am for sure not part of the combat. When the Ares are using blast mortars vs Beams, Beams for sure get more bails (But that could be becouse the lower damage allows the Xenon ship to survive the bailing)
Every time shields go down and hull damage is taken, there is a % chance for crew members to bail. Modifiers to that % depend on the pilot's combat skill (although I'm not sure if this is player-only) and the ship being used. The problem is, out of sector the small ships capable of bailing often blow up before they get a chance to bail. Which is why PEs tend to be a common bail now. But even then, I have not seen any reliable method to do so besides doing the piracy yourself. Perhaps a wing of Boron Makos or Barracudas with those ion guns and good pilots could work well? Or any ships with ion cannons equipped.
I also have a video on getting pilots to bail. However I think the mechanics have changed since the Nova was not at 75% hull strength for the bailing mechanic to work. It was almost instant once his shield reached zero.
@@T-Skillet Maybe the checks have been raised to 100 hull with shields down and it was the only person on board for that lucky roll of the bail dice. Or there is more to it now then it was back in the days. For myself, I don't encounter many bails anymore - but I will give @net2000man's laser tower strategy a go - looks like a lot less labour for credits :)
if want it done youre self then get ur rank up by killing ships if u want to farm... well a war between split and boron is the best i found. There a 2 chaces a pilot bails, on schield down and on low hull plus 2 modifires, fighting skill and the ship there fighting aganst.... You want a battle with lots of small ships (no drones no turrets chause no pilot skill) and where the weapons are more likely to bring down shields an not the hull, so the shields can rechage and they get more changes to bail. gl
@T-Skillet I setup laser towers as a blockade for certain key gates (Hat Choice, eg) where teh Xenon like to move their ships into faction space, and I set a Cerberus frigate to collect drops and lay down more laser towers as needed. Doing this I have captured nearly ALL of my station miners and defense patrol ships, and have increased my rep with ARG and HAT factions to boot. I currently have about 25 or so PEs, SEs, Fs and another larger ship (H?) thanks to this strategy. The chances of ships bailing are now much more reasonable than they ever have been, and it makes the game a little more realistic given that all of these races sooner or later get into skirmishes where ships get destroyed. I like the new mechanic, and it has been a godsend in new playthroughs where a new player starting out is given a decent chance to capitalize on the losses of others...
Hmmm… 🤔…. Looks like I’m gonna have to invest in some laser towers!
@@T-Skillet Hmm... Maybe a defense station only with beam lasers? Lots of small injuries?
(so far I only found an abandoned B)
I’ve done something similar. However what I did was build an actual gate around the gate itself 😉 all split defense platforms armed with TER Lasers (both M & L turrets) nothing gets by that gate 🤣 and the freak chance one does it’s severely damaged and taken care of by the patrols 🤣
I saw this right after saying something similar, but smaller scale. Impressive! I didn’t think to post a Cerberus! Thanks for the tip!
I haven't played much since the update, but here are my observations:
Had a PE bail next to a gate defense station while OOS, where the local drop gatherer notified me and claimed it. That PE is missing most of its equipment.
Pre-7. I would find abandoned ships near faction fleets engaged in combat, typically small ships. Have seen this both in and out of sector.
Pre-7. Would find occationally that one of my patrolls, typically ones with one M and 5 or more fighters set to intercept, may get an M or smaller to bail. Typically see this out of sector.
Pre-7. Have seen ships bail under flack bombardment but they typically end up destroyed before the AI stops firing.
I’m going to have to keep more of an eye out for this. I never would see it before 7.0. But other have so goes to show every game is different!
A good way to saturate a spot is to set a ship with large carrying capacity (I usually use a Cerberus) to defend a small area, say about 4 or 5 km. Then spam click the deploy consumable button. I pause the game and use a keyboard macro to repeatedly click, just to save my mouse and finger. As the ship traipses around the area it will release a tower (preferably mk 2 because they take longer and so spread out) around the area.
Absolutely hate!!! Spamming the button myself. But I’d also prefer to do it myself to save my mouse…. Key binding is great! Lol
Bailing always happened, however if you weren't fighting a faction, only pirates had that option (Xenon and Kha'ak did not). You could also find ships that were attacked by pirates that bailed, I deactivated the notification for finding derelict ships because with my own fleet never being attacked (Barbarossa ftw) and no need for Patrols, yeah Pirates were running amok among the NPC ships.
Now with the Xenon ships bailing you just notice it much easier as they are always hostile.
For ship "farming" just let some ships patrol areas with factions fighting each other with the order to claim any ship. Should also work close to Xenon sectors once you setup some defence there. Basically like ships that collect drops but this time for ships.
I never really fought a faction but I also never found pirate leftovers either. I feel like I’ve missed so many opportunities! 😅
i usually park a guppy full of boron fighters with the boron guns near a xenon gate and get lots of bails. got 20 PE 3 B 7 F in a couple of SETA hours. BTW sometime the xenon ship bail and destroy some of the equipment and then you need your own wharf to fix them.
Thats good to know. I've always known the M and S class ships to be fully equipt.
I keep restarting my game, because of new ideas. That said, I set about 200 laser tower mk1’s at xenon gates. I can reliably grab 6 Fs or PE’s, and some times SEs and I almost got to a Chimera. Regarding the missing drones, I had to zoom out on the map and search "Drone." Found them slowly crossing systems attempting to "recall subordinate." I strip claimed ships in the "upgrade/repair" before selling the ship. It gets me more money. Don’t forget to repost crews to other places before selling. I’ll probably restart my game again after this. Cheer all. o7
I love restarting! I like the challenge, i like figuring out the universe and creating something new.
@@T-Skillet indeed! Right after I typed that comment I restarted and chose "stranded." I forgot how much fun clawing up from broke is, in this game. For the first time since 4.0 when I started playing, the abandoned Odyssey in Faulty Logic had its main batteries! After stripping I got 13M credits! In all previous attempts, I got around 8M! Now to try the Hatikvah's League and SCA stuff. Never did their stories. Cheers!
I’ve had ships bail in 6.xx
But 7.x turned it up and now there are clusters of abandoned ships after battle
I haven't noticed lots of them. Ever since the video i have been watching my fleets and seeing how many more will show up.... yeah not lots.
Heeeeyy, I helped inspire a video! I feel so proud!
Heck yea man!!! Thank you for sparking the curiosity!
So I recently restarted playing X4 and got first carrier. A shark with a lot of boron fighters to block the Vigor syndicate from leaving their sector.
My fighters are good at killing shield, not so good at killing hull. This led to me now having a lot of Kyds at my disposal.
I like the kyd but I like all Vig ships. To me they are believable, along with their stations! Trapped with little to no resources to build anything new. Totally great!!
What is your boron fleet made of fighter wise?
A bunch of Barracudas with 2x ion gatling + phase cannon. Later I integrated the Kyds with a less hull frienly load out. Ever since it feels like I've less ships bailing.
How did your barracudas fair? I haven’t had one in a long time. Well… since it first came out. Loved the Barracuda though, just couldn’t figure out where it fit into a fleet at the time.
I had few that bailed in my laser blockade
But only one was not destroyed
I dont know how to make it controlled action
That’s the big question!! Right now I’m in the same boat…. I’ve done laser towers, drones, myself and the fleet…. Only got two and that was by myself…. Killed three but got two to bail.
I have seen them bail with out me being the aggressor, but it was a rare sight.
I’ve witnessed the Nova that’s it myself. All the others I was told about.
I've been getting tonnes of PE's and F's From a defense platform i set up on the edge of xenon space - it gets one every few hours at least.
What are your thoughts on the PE and F?
I am struggling to truly figure out how to use carriers properly.
Not sure what I need to do to actually do proper fleets with various fleets.
Not sure if there is enough need for this type of video because I cant really find it.
I have two video…. They are older though and things have changed! So be warned. I’ll make an updated one soon. But they are under the Let’s Talk playlist, OOS Carrier combat.
@@T-Skillet thanks. I saw that one. I was more talking about in system.
I’m not even sure I am using my Aux ships correctly 🤣.
My fleets shoot but not sure all the resupply and repairs are happening.
Do you have a trade ship attached to your Aux ship?
I will say currently i don't L class ships docking with the Aux ship work all that well.
I'd suggest they typical position protect order and let the enemy come to you. Unless you order the lead ship to attack.... then theoretically all Attack with should attack the commander's target while intercept ships (IN MY MIND) should attack everything else.... However i'm sure its a general attack order.
Also a shoutout to @ragnos28.... His videos might help you.
@@T-Skillet thanks man. I appreciate it 😊
As someone who just got into X4 im so happy to see someone making content on the reg. Do you use any mods?
I do not. It’s all vanilla X4. With 7.0 I can’t think of a mod to use unless it’s the Star Wars one…. This could be seen as foreshadowing….
Strange, but I seen a lot of empty ships in 5.0 and 6.0. My miners and traders call me like every hour about empty ships. This mostly happened in a sectors with lot of pirates and police.
I never saw this back then! But that’s good to know! Thank you.
I don't have data to back this up, but seems to me large amounts of small hits triggers more ship bailings than a few high damage hits. I had one gate guarded by a squadron of 10 heavy fighters and did not seem to be many bails, but had another gate guarded by 20 light fighters and they got 5 or 6 bails. Very possible the heavy fighters were killing the targets before they could complete the bails.
To increase this likelihood, I cover a small radius around key gates with laser towers as a defense blockade, and I can't tell you how many XEN and ZYA ships I've been able to capture, mostly S and M size ships, of course. For the bigger ships, I have L destroyers on patrol and they distract those targets while I swoop in with an M class freighter full of veteran marines, LOL!!!
True sometimes they don’t stop shooting in a timely manner.
Laser towers seem to be the way to go.
I found a bailed ship way back in 1.0 or smth, I think it was a Falcon Vanguard. It was the only time I found a bailed ship that wasn't forced to bail by me in vanilla. I mostly play with mods, so my current game looks a lot different to a vanilla game and as such any data regarding that is useless.
Believe there is a free one sitting somewhere for you. I never go hunting for more than the Odysseus.
@@T-Skillet nah this one was damaged and sporting a SCA paintjob. Not one of the ones that float around every time.
I sit on a Xenon gate and it is about 70 80 destroyed before one will bail!!
That’s a good point! I wonder how many you have to go through to get one to bail!!
May the algorithm be with you!
Thanks!
very nice
Thanks!
Told you so T.... 😏 can I also suggest you create a playlist for your Let's Talks? Loving the new channel format my dude, glad you found your niche 😊
There should be a playlist for it. Let me know if you can’t find it please.
Dunno if it works out of sector, But hanging around Xenon invasion Gates like in Hatikvas, has left a few Xenon ships to collect.
- I've found Xenon ships, Hs that didn't have all their turrets.
I think that so you don’t have an overly powerful ship ready to go. That’s my opinion.
I’ve seen an H completely wipe a fleet before.
In 7 they made the xenon ships flyable, and thus they had to be changed to bail. However that change wasn't balanced as so many bailed. I had a fleet of PEs, Bs and a few Fs.
In pre 7 days though, I have seen other ships bail from NPC fire. My assault on the Vig station took my fleet through a cascade of Kyds and a few decided to bail. Whilst I won't swear to it as it was a long time ago, I wimped away from that fight (part cowardice, part FPS issues).
I think they just upped the bail chance and that's why we're seeing it now.
As for farming, I wouldn't bother. You're likely to lose more ships than you gain.
I avoided the Vig because their patrol fleets were huge!! And everywhere!
Setup laser tower blockades at some key gates and you won't lose any ships and conversely will be pinged by your scouts ships scooping up all the drops about abandoned ships in that gate area. I have an M frigate on collect drop duty in front of that pesky gate into XENON territory in Hatikvah's Choice, and I have yet to lose any ships in that sector. I just add additional laser towers as I need and continue capping everything the Xenon send through that gate. Even K's and I's eventually get captured by an M freighter I have loaded with Veteran marines. Again, no losses anywhere, just having fun depleting the Xenon scourge of their ships.
@@T-Skillet I hate the vig, the way to get them is destroyers kitted out for anti-fighter (eg L beam + M flak) along with a heap of fighter cover. Its quite fun to watch, even if its at 1FPS!
😂 I hated having to destroy the station. I bet that does look cool though!!
merci a toi
You see, I love love love X4. LTS (Long Term Strategy) games have ALWAYS been of an interest to me. I even had more love for X3 with the exclusion of getting mods to work. However, I've kind of fallen OUT of love with the game. Unless I'm missing something, it's such a type of grind that no matter what grind you do, and how well you do it, you're not going to win and you will succumb to the Xenon no matter what.
I decided to kick up a game with a lot of cheat mechanics in it. HUGE cheat mechanics. Spawn in 50 massive ships with insane weaponry. Turn on fleet invulnerability. Just prance through every system cleaning their stuff out, and I cannot, for the life of me, figure out WHY I keep getting bombarded with MORE.
Even if I did decide to keep to myself, after a certain point, every other faction starts losing out to the Xenon. Constantly. They can't keep up any better than I can, and I'm playing in a few systems to myself.
Am I missing something here, or is this game just rigged to be not "winnable"?
My version of "Winnable" is being able to build up a corp of my own where I'm profitable, and have my systems defend themselves, but, I'm constantly being "harassed" and losing stuff because Xenon just "spawn in".
I’m not gonna say it’s hard to win. In fact it can be easy at times! Depends on the capital ships you have their capability and how much attention you want to put towards the Xenon.
Currently and this has not alway been the case but Kha’ak have been super annoying.
The game is definitely a grind game. Just got to stick with it.
Comment for the almighty algorithm
Praise be to the algorithm! 😂
Heavy fighter swarm with all em weapons
There's no "reliable" way to get them to bail OOS sadly, considering the bail check has a 30 second cooldown, and its math is based on shield%, hull%, max hull and pilot skill (both attacker and target) and OOS combat is just numbercrunching die roll. A 5-star pilot+morale AI would have the same chances as you do to make the target bail, though. If all OOS combat was calculated and simulated like IS combat, then you'd likely get even more bailing.
How does it work against laser towers? It can’t be the same calc…. I’ve had a few bail due to them but again…. Not reliably. Trust me I tried lol
@@T-Skillet I'll be honest with you; I've no idea when it comes to laser towers. My suspicion is that each tower is considered as a 0-star attacker, so each of them might get their own separate trigger attempt. Don't quote me on that though, as I've yet to put that theory to the test.
That is a good theory! I’ve have better success with them more than anything else lately.
podcast format, moving on..
I have a Boron XL Carrier with 80 Ares on a gate defence mission up at Zyarth Dominion. Overnight (I play with no SETA) i tend to find between 2 to 5 PE's, 1 or 2 SE's and very rarely an F
I am for sure not part of the combat. When the Ares are using blast mortars vs Beams, Beams for sure get more bails (But that could be becouse the lower damage allows the Xenon ship to survive the bailing)
Hmmm this is interesting. Granted I have seen more xenon bail than factions but for that nova to bail so quick it made me wonder.
Every time shields go down and hull damage is taken, there is a % chance for crew members to bail. Modifiers to that % depend on the pilot's combat skill (although I'm not sure if this is player-only) and the ship being used.
The problem is, out of sector the small ships capable of bailing often blow up before they get a chance to bail. Which is why PEs tend to be a common bail now.
But even then, I have not seen any reliable method to do so besides doing the piracy yourself.
Perhaps a wing of Boron Makos or Barracudas with those ion guns and good pilots could work well? Or any ships with ion cannons equipped.
This helped me understanding the mechanics: th-cam.com/video/x3IUVbTExJg/w-d-xo.html
I also have a video on getting pilots to bail. However I think the mechanics have changed since the Nova was not at 75% hull strength for the bailing mechanic to work. It was almost instant once his shield reached zero.
@@T-Skillet Maybe the checks have been raised to 100 hull with shields down and it was the only person on board for that lucky roll of the bail dice. Or there is more to it now then it was back in the days. For myself, I don't encounter many bails anymore - but I will give @net2000man's laser tower strategy a go - looks like a lot less labour for credits :)
if want it done youre self then get ur rank up by killing ships if u want to farm... well a war between split and boron is the best i found.
There a 2 chaces a pilot bails, on schield down and on low hull plus 2 modifires, fighting skill and the ship there fighting aganst....
You want a battle with lots of small ships (no drones no turrets chause no pilot skill) and where the weapons are more likely to bring down shields an not the hull, so the shields can rechage and they get more changes to bail. gl
What do you see more bail, split or boron?
@@T-Skillet split on s ships but it seems the borons dont like there m ships XD
That’s good cause I love the Hydra