My high voltage pink ring has malfunctioned (schematic and hack)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2020
- During a spate of ozone investigation I bought a few different rechargeable ozone generators intended for deodorising cupboards, wardrobes and small rooms, and also keeping fridges sterile by killing surface bacteria.
One works really well, but another was defective from the start and this one started off OK despite some design weirdness, but then failed with a faint crackling noise.
In this video I reverse engineer it, find the cause of the problem affecting many of these units and hack it to run directly on USB with no battery. (The battery MUST be removed if the USB hack is applied.)
Note that the "wind" noise when I held the ozone generator up to the microphone was the ionic breeze that would normally be moving a decent amount of air through the corona discharge and out into the area being sterilised. In this product it's been encased in a badly designed product where the designer didn't really understand the operation and blocked the airflow with an unventilated recess and fine mesh.
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the pink ring seems to have been a portable speaker in another life lol
Saint Leibowitz would be most epic if someone had a driver with a hole in the middle that went all the way through
@@Darieee i wonder what the manufacturing cost would be for a donut shaped driver
@@saintleibowitz8401 oooowwwwyhea ... SONY and or prior Apple would've for sure given a go-ahead for something with this aesthetic/cost/practicality ratio 🔥
Ozone is bad...everyone smart avoids that smell ,now ..sorry I forgot why..not at all good for your lungs...10 cigars is healthyer
@@garymingy8671 uneducated.
"My pink ring has malfunctioned."
Sounds like a personal problem, Clive.
When my own pink ring malfunctioned it didn't smell like ozone, either.
_"It's not really supposed to be making that noise"_
: S
Easily fixed, you just need to give your tip a quick rub...
I've seen some electrode based technology that should reduce some of that pain in your ring, it even has a numb setting ;)
Clive already had a device to get his pink ring working. He didn’t test it correctly which was disappointing.
"Clean the tip, and most of the problems go away."
Words each and every one of us men need to learn & live by.
especially when dealing with pink rings
I was waiting for this comment tbh.
😆😂😉👍 yes indeed !
Yeah but thats where all the flavor is...
What I've learned from this: There are no dignified ways of penetrating a pink ring.
Just jam the tool in and hope the destruction is kept at a minimum.
I also learned that if you are careless when penetrating you can hurt yourself.
I suspect that it may also be possible to slip or miss and hurt someone else with your tool.
I imagine that it's relatively safe if you use caution, it probably also helps to get it wet first as well.
@@me3333 cleaning the tip helps.
When MY pink ring stars making crackling/popping noises, I run to the bathroom.
Well that's another fine mesh you've got yourself into.
Shame on you, reported to the joke police.
Donut know what you are referring too....
I must admit that gag has a familiar ring.
Yesh!
jonk polic
"The pink ring is destroyed, basically" - well at least you had fun.
The sign of a good Saturday night out 🤣
took that thing apart casual like
The phrases "High voltage supply" and "put my screwdriver near it" generally don't mix in my experience
I bought 5 of the triangular shaped ones on eBay after your review, Clive. I've discovered they make GREAT work boot deodorizers. I simply turn it on and place it into the boot with the little ion slots facing the toe of the boot. After sitting overnight The boots have literally NO smell! Try it!
Good tip👍😊👍
do you have a link for the triangular shaped ones?
If you have problems with stinky work boots, check out my video about it. The effects are dramatic.
th-cam.com/video/wPLwczrGikM/w-d-xo.html
I found an 8" plasma ball at a Goodwill thrift store last week for $4.99. It runs on 12V but didn't have the PSU. I wired one up to it. It is strong. When I put my hands near the globe, I can feel a tingle, and smell ozone. So now I lay my cloth mask on it every time I come home, as I don't remember to wash it every day. It is much fresher after even a half hour on the ball.
where'd you get them
Quick everyone, Clive's gonna' open his pink ring, get the popcorn.
You get the popcorn, I’ll get the cocporn.
It looks like a cervix to me...
I was really hoping it would set itself on fire, for that luxurious statement, "ooooh, that's not good."
Pass the popcorn!
To carry the conversation from another project of your, there is no doubt in my mind, you are in fact, THE Bob Ross of electronic circuits. So soothing to watch at 4 in the am. ;)
Whether Mig welding, Airbrush painting, Creating Ozone or "inspecting" a sheep on the edge of a cliff.
Never forget to clean the tip after use.
I'm not nearly smart enough to understand any of the mechanical stuff Clive discusses, but it's always entrancing to listen to.
if you're listening you're learning, and that's a good thing.
You don't have to be smart. You just have to pay attention.
If you don't understand what he does but try to copy it anyway, you may find yourself exiting, not entrancing.
Glad I'm not the only one and the responses definitely made me feel better.
I am sure you are smart enough to understand it, you just don't have the knowledge and experience to understand it.
The unit I bought actually has a removable top and the manual says that you should clean the spike if it stops working.
Talk about designing with planned obsolescence in the pink ring.
@@soupflood Telling you how to maintain it doesn't suggest this. All point emitters will degrade with time, no matter how pricey the unit. The only criticism of the device is the case, which you can change, all in all a good buy, especially when you consider that the High Voltage module itself cost upwards of £30.
@@andymouse the glued cover of this particular pink device surely doesn't make maintenance easy, but i agree, if one has the skills, one can salvage the ozone module or clean the emitter and change the cover
OMG Clive! Take a care not to strain too much, lest you damage your pink ring ;)
Had the volume on full as i pressed play to hear my pink rink has malfunctioned just as the wife walks in for her to ask what the bloody hell are you watching.
Best delete your browser history... I guarantee that will get checked later!
Sofa-Lofa too suspicious, only delete specific items
@@aterack833 Or better yet, always use Incognito mode on your browser. It doesn't register the activity in the first place, so no need to delete anything later. Helps you not to stress about it, too. ...um, anyway, that's what I heard. ;-]
1:39 _"tell you what tell you what i'm just going to pause and get the correct tool for the job"_ Oh wow, he's going to get the vice of knowledge. Bugger, he returns with a screw driver...
Not just any old screw driver but the Flathead of Plastic Case Opening...
Edgar Matzinger I was hoping for the X-ray...
Absolutely thought the vice of knowledge or the x-ray machine was going to make a long missed appearance!
Edgar Matzinger reverse hank hill?
I was rooting for the hammer of understanding
The things I learned from this video:
- Clive uses pink rings (not surprised by that one)
- Corona discharge discharges corona
- Always clean the tip and make sure it's not contaminated
- Chinese home computers produce radiation
- Public sound stations are a thing, for whatever that is
8:22
"It's kinda working now, I guess, now that I've scrubbed the tip a little bit"
Problems of the middle aged male, eh?
@@threeMetreJim I'd love to have your problem threemeterjim
@@thekingoffailure9967 Almost guaranteed, so don't worry. No-one is getting any younger.
Never thought I'd click on a video where a bloke who looks like a biker talks about his malfunctioning pink ring.🤣
I'm guessing you're not a regular round these parts?
Check out the livestreams... So funny 🤣
Everything's is pink with Clive he is a big bear if you get my point, looks can be deceiving but I don't care what he does in his personal life but when it comes to electronic tear downs, Clive is the best guy on You Tube
@@sofa-lofa4241 he got me started doing my own tear downs. Now I'm a hoarder. Ooops 🤣
@@who919me my joke was just insinuating I personally wouldn't watch gay porn. I couldn't give a rat's toss bag what anyone else does. Not my business, doesn't affect me in the slightest.
And yeah, he's pretty funny and a lot smarter than me.
@@hayreddinbarbarossa661 I think Clive is responsible for half of the entire Pound land stock ending up in pieces... The other half are due to natural causes
It's not hoarding... It's collecting special things for nefarious purposes 😉... And I'm not guilty of it... Honest!
"Corona Discharge" well, found my metal band name.
Isn't that from when you drink them too fast and some comes back up?
scotts got a g/f
Clive Mitchell, you are the only person I know that manages to make electronics smutty! 😳🙊
Perhaps you need to approach the electrosex circles a bit more?
@@benbaselet2026 I'll stick with Clives innuendos thanks! 😁
@@benbaselet2026 did you make this comment June 27th
What about AvE lol
@@Butchey24 No he didn't...we are Patreon members, so we get to see Clives videos before the general public.
I havent got a clue about electronics but it fascinates me how stuff works.I Love this channel.
I like that you order everything in pink😃
i can't wait until my ring breaks so i can take it apart in front of everyone
For a man who has spent so much time at live musicals and bands, I'm sincerely impressed you can hear that high-pitched whine. You must really look after your hearing, Clive!
You have a nice looking pink ring there, Clive. Ooh no, I can't bear to look, he's prising at his ring with a screwdriver. This isn't going to end well. 😬 That was a feel-good update, nice to know your ring is operating just fine now you've modified it.
"Chewing up my big pink ring" is its own punchline.
Thank you clive. For taking the picture. And then explaining the schematic and describing what each component is for.. I am learning out of it. Regards from Mexico. . stay safe.
Someone did actually build a model aircraft propelled by corona discharge pushing air across the wings, but it was both tricky to handle due to the high voltages and extremely feeble.
I've seen loads of those ionic levitators, but not a plane. That's kind of interesting.
It was able to lift it's power source? That's impressive, right?
I remember seeing something about corona discharge being used as a stealth shroud for aircraft
When you featured and disassembled the little white O3 generators, I took a leap and bought a pair of 'em. Nice little units that do exactly what they should. THANKS!
Thanks to this video, or actually comments bellow i learn that "pink ring" have some another meaning than i (non native speaker)know.
Thanks YT :D
Strange design, don't think I have laughed so much in ages after the many innuendoes and hilarious comments, I DID have a mouthful of tea when you said I shouldn't be fingering this
now the tea is all over the keyboard and monitor.
Great channel, love it, keep up the great videos, BigClive
2 things sprang into mind watching this. You have several times commented that you must remember to zoom out after having inspected boards and schematics. Unless you are still using a smartphone most cameras have an app where you can mirror the image on the camera in real time, so you can place your phone on the workbench just outside the range of the camera and always see the zoom level. And regarding the airflow in the pink donut, the material leaves ample space for drilling extra holes around the ozone unit for added flow. Simple solution for a lot of units with too little airflow. Nice video - as usual. Thumbs up. A fan in Denmark.
Always remember to clean the tip after destroying the pink ring. Top tier tip once again.
looks like a very dodgy pink doughnut
They often do.
Another video from my favorite ozone enthusiast.
When I saw the device, my first thought was a miniature electrostatic speaker! The HV side was often a problem with Quad speakers (along with comments from the un-initiated, "what are those convection heaters doing wired up to your HiFi" being the commonest! :-D )
Or 'they forgot to put the cones in'
Finally, a video about a pink stinker, which is socially compliant.
Top Quality As Always, informative and interesting.
Did you hear the joke about the Irishman who thought that innuendo was an Italian suppository?
'inyourendo' 😜
@@andygozzo72 that's what the Irishman said🤣👍
No, why don't you go ahead and tell the joke?
I love dad-jokes...🤣
Thank you for inspiring me! I bought a camera on ebay so I could take it to bits because I wondered if I could attach the sensor to a different device.
Nice breakdown and very nice Circuit 👌 looks very well made Clive @BigCliveDotCom
Vintage Big Clive. An entire episode brought to you by the power of double entendres. Best comment section ever. Laughed my pink ring off.
Your pink ring will never be the same again.
It's always a good idea to clean the tip after you use your pink ring a while.
Sounds like an interesting project you have here Clive. Design and 3D print a case for the modded unit that will house the 18650 battery pack and allow better air flow over the ozone generator. Look forward to a future vid if you decide to do it.
In the UK, I think people are advised to shoot for about 5 degrees C in the fridge. In the US, we're told to shoot for about 4.44 C OR BELOW, and 2.8 C is not uncommon as a target. Things routinely freeze at the back or the fridge, as many designs pump sub-freezing air from the freezer into the fridge area, and where it has not yet dispersed, it's sub-zero C.
Salty foods like pickles do fine back there, but I don't know if a lithium battery would be safe.
I told you that high-voltage TENS electrode would cause your pink ring to malfunction, but did you listen?
*My high voltage pink ring can't be this cute*
But I wouldn't recommend a LiPo as a sex toy.
wow such a well made and educational video. Thank you.
My life unfolds before my eyes as a metaphor I don't get .
Ah, yes, that was one of my favorite images from Sharper Product!
My first guess before the tear down, just with the sound is that the insulation broke and it arced over.
That was my thought too.
I always suspected that BC is more satisfied by a ring than a triangle.
This is relevant to my interests
Good teardown video
Love you Clive 💝
Thank you for the upload.
A literal pink ring of death.
I had to laugh as you were prying on the mesh donut and said, "this isn't going to end well". I've thought that many times when disassembling things that don't lend themselves to easy disassembly.
The poor wee moose! Great explanation.
First I thought that you have a tiny Electrostatic Speaker. I still remember how good and airy sound was in Quad tube amplifier and Electro Static speakers.
Never thought I'd see the day when Clive showed us his pink ring.
A standard ozone generator is so so so so much larger than this. I can't imagine this thing producing enough ozone to even do it's job let alone be harmful to your health.
A very old analogue photocopier I de-constructed had an interesting feature in the corona discharge wires. They were gold plated to avoid corrosion and maintain the conductivity. So gold plating the pointed tip might prevent future corrosion by the ozone.
"My pink ring has malfunctioned"
Ahhh... Taco Bell.
When your big pink ring is getting corona discharge, that's your cue that it's time to quarantine.
Get some o-ring picks. They're so useful for so many things
I really never expected to see your pink ring.
The famous DYI NuvaRing™ from Clive!
The innuendo is strong with these posts.
Just as you got to the bit (around 16 mins) where you lamented the low voltage going to the ozone generator I thought "it needs to swap the charger chip for one out of a battery bank". These seem cheap as chips, and give out the 5 Volts that the generator craves.
Then you go and make that 'product' with a two part solution.
A dirty tip in your pink ring.....ooooh matron!
at least there's no sexual innuendo about pink rings in this episode
I am old enough to remember when home electric clothes dryers had "ozone lights" in them. I don't know when they went out of fashion.
You can buy them on eBay as GTL3 lamps. They need a transformer and ballast resistor as they operate at just 10V when "struck".
Ozone is not good for your health
@@ardentdrops Neither is coffee in large quantities. But ozone occurs in nature at low level and may be important for maintaining the quality of air.
@@ardentdrops That's why you wait a couple minutes for it to dissipate rather than stick your head in and huff it.
Nooo not the high voltage pink ring! Damn you 2020!
I'm concerned but not surprised to see so many furrys here XD
We all have a malfunctioning pink ring from time to time. It comes with age, and it goes away by itself. It's not that bad.
@SALTY ARMY LONDON REGIMENT ESPECIALLY if ur female XD
The fridge idea got me, but i fear it would kill the living baking-yeast i keep in my fridge. Have you encountered food-related products which don't like the ozone?
I don't keep too much normal stuff in my fridge. Just milk, meat and cheese.
But we all know Greg and Paul are in the freezer!
Love all the pink ring related jokes
I wonder if that ozone generator module can be put into a hand held bug zapper and have zap. I have smelled ozone when using the bug zappers so the circuit should be similar.
It's important to keep your tip clean!
And don't stab your pink ring with a screwdriver.
I'm sorry, I got 5 words in... I have to stop.. You have already entertained me enough for a Thumbs Up
Keep your thumb away from it you vulgar being!
@@krashd You are right, we don't want to make any type of popping noises
Clive. Thanks for showing us your pink ring, at least it was clean.
A quick 2 questions if you have the time.
What are the name of the connecters that plug the battery to the circuit board?
And I have a RC car light kit, the 2 LEDs for the indicaters in parallel, the resistor is on the circuit board. If I remove 1 LED do I need to replace it with a resistor?
Thanks Clive 👍😷
JST connectors are the norm, search for 'JST dimensions' as there are loads of different ones, many look a similar size
@@sofa-lofa4241
Thank you 👍😷
So back back back in the annals of pre-TH-cam history I remember 2 high voltage projects in particular, Clive's "Tingle-tron" and Afrotech's "Pika-shoes".
Clive what do you suppose the prank potential of hooking up the positive of that HV module to a ground strap and the negative to, let's say, a plate on the bottom of your shoe is? I hear you can do some pretty sweet card tricks that way as well.
Could one for the fridge/freezer use a supercap that charges from the light socket when the door is open? Could be a nice feature to integrate into a LED bulb for a fridge.
The pink ring is performing it's intended task quite perfectly: Separating you from your money!
Are you also going to put some air holes in the pink case to help with the flow?
Don't worry Clive, I'm sure most bears have problems with their big pink rings, I've heard it's due to other bears poking their screwdrivers in 'em.
@11.50 they usually disable it during charging because the charger IC cuts off when the current reaches about 10% of its initial value. If the unit is taking more than 10% of the battery charger set point it will get stuck charging forever. Had this problem on a couple of my products!
You probably could hack in one of those cheap 5V PFM always-on step-up converters (for Li-Ion to USB) in between the control board and the ozone module in this situation.
RIP high voltage pink ring
Hi Clive, a boring question but I’m looking for a donor LiPo of about that size, is there a number printed on it or would you be able to give the dimensions. Cheers. PS where did you get the unit from originally?
About airflow...
The high voltage arc that is created between the tip of the spike and the hole in the metal plate heats the air sufficiently so that when this hot air rises, it generates airflow within the small recess where the emitter is mounted. Air coming in from the sides goes up through the hole. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me on the question of airflow in this unit.
"Let me just doddle something out for you regarding my high voltage pink ring." Oh Clive, behave!
Clive, have you thought about looking into rechargeable lithium thyonil chloride batteries? Good at low temperatures.
In this case I've only got one low temperature application. The more specialist technologies tend to carry matching price tags.
Does putting ozone in the fridge risk damage to the plastic door seals. I know that some plastics disintegrate when exposed to ozone. There are some refrigerators on the market that have a built in ozone generator, but I assume the manufactures select plastic that is resistant to damage.
With the "USB-IN" line disabled, is there possibility of some EMF going back to damage things on the charge input side? This is my only hunch why they would do that in the first place.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel if they had mounted the spike assembly properly, they could have fit a second one on the other side of the ring. Could you run both on the same supply, or would you need to fit a second supply in the ring?
Clive you got name dropped on an Amazon review about an air purifier, guy said he went searching for one after seeing one of your videos about them... here's the kicker... it was a negative review, he complained that when he turned it on he could smell ozone. That sealed the deal for me and I ordered it because I knew that he was obviously a muppet and that the product was actually what I wanted and not just a box with an LED on it.
Thanks for the good video 👍
Clive I love your channel. I have a woodworking lathe that I can vary the speed on by moving a belt between pulleys. I want to try to simplify this by putting it on the fastest combination of pulleys and then use some sort of speed regulator to vary the speed. I bought an "AC motor speed controller" on Ebay for the princely sum of about £7 but to my astonishment, it doesn't work! When I told the vendor he refunded my money on the condition that I didn't tell anyone... (Happy to send it to you if you want.) The lathe has a single phase induction motor (both Greek to me). Is it possible to do what I want to do? The motor was made in 1993 so not state of the art.
A standard induction motor will lose torque rapidly with any attempt at speed control. The belts are the best option, followed by a variable frequency drive and matching motor.
@@bigclivedotcom Thank you so much for this. There's little point in sending you the "AC motor speed control" they sent me?