I was so inspired by the brilliant design of this card I made variations for other classes: Back-Purify (2 Mana Rogue spell) : _Deal 2 damage to an undamaged friendly minion. Draw a card._ Moon-Purify (2 Mana Druid spell): _Deal 1 damage to a friendly character. Draw a card._ Ancestral Purify (2 Mana Shaman spell): _Restore an enemy minion to full Health and give it taunt. Draw a card._
+Yinshuai Liu I wasn't aware of Ironforge portal before but even on hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Ironforge_Portal it says that portals are a mage utility spell. The hearthstone team likes to take liberties with warcraft lore. Oh well. +Alexandre Teixeira I'm not seeing the card you are referring to on hearthstone.gamepedia.com/One_Night_in_Karazhan#Cards
Billy Diaz Why stop at 3? Throw in a shrinkmeister and you can silence an enemy 5 attack minion for the low low price of 8 mana. Good thing you can't do that in standard.
in case you didnt notice he said: 1 mana 7/7 which implies that you want to start to smash into things by turn 2. Ironbeak cost 3 so you waste a turn. Spellbreaker comes out even later. Silence for 0 is the only one that made sense here.
I've already quit Hearthstone. Blizzard needs to bring fresh eyes/new blood to the Hearthstone development team. The Hearthstone development team has shown time and time again that they are totally incompetent. There are numerous other CCG out there to learn from. There is also the outcries from the Hearthstone community who have said explicitly that having a core set is a bad idea and that Shaman and Priest's core sets are no where near as good as Warrior, Mage, Shaman, Warlock etc core sets. Purify is a spit in the eye from the Hearthstone team. At no point since the beginning of Hearthstone has one class been so bad in both Arena and on Ladder and for such a long time. Priest has never been top tier and no one saying it should be. All we are asking for is more balance between the best and worst decks. Updating/buffing Priests core set would go a long way towards mending all the hatred.
Man ur so right... Like this Karazhan expansion is complete shit. as if people gonna play Dragon, Beast and Murloc decks instead of cancer zoo and aggro shaman. they print shit cards in ADVENTURES. like as if somebody is interested in a vanilla 2 mana 3/2 Taunt. Like No Way Blizzard is That dumb...
Shea Briar True but it's still farily balanced because the owl had "draw a 2/1 beast and put it directly into the battlefield" which is tempowise better but the drawing is a cycling ability which is valuable when you build a deck that benefits from it.
Shea Briar In the future please get an insight to the topic before saying something that'll make you look like an idiot. They nerfed silence cards because they wanted to test what kind of changes scarce silences would make to the gameplay. Not because they were too strong.
+Shea Briar Owl wasn't over powered. Even if it was, it was a neutral card. Class cards are supposed to be stronger than neutral cards. Owl was a 2 mana 2/1 with silence battlecry. 2/1 is worth 1 mana, so its silence battlecry was worth 1 mana. Priest already has a silence card worth 0 mana. Purify would be perfectly balanced at 2 mana silence and draw a card. It would be strong if it was 1 mana, but still balanced. The way it is right now is complete shit.
+Alloran I really think that the card is playable... again, it's the second cheapest Silence in the game, there is a specific way that can be used to your advantage, especially with the card draw effect.
+WingofTech silencing your own minion is bad tho. Priest plays a lot of cards that shouldn't be slienced. All of their minions, the Priest Minions you can get, would suck if silenced. like Sylvana, Rag, CThun, taunts, buffs. Priest is already too slow. This is another very slow card. It's literally a 2 mana draw one card. It's like wild growth on 10 mana but worse because you have to have a minion in play AND that minion is okay to silence. It could see play. And it might. But it's still the worse card I've seen.
No you cycle a card which is fine at 1 mana.There are plenty of times I've pw shielded an enemy I was planning on paining or deathing just to cycle. It's AMAZING if you can get use out of it to keep a minion alive, but it's still useful enough just to cycle at it's mana cost. You could ultimately wait to use pw shield on a minion in a later turn but if you just need the draw 1 mana is fine. Granted in that EXACT case purify will save your minion, but there is no warlock deck that PURPOSEFULLY runs corruption. It comes off dark pedler on occasion and the warlock isn't ususally super happy about it.
Turn 7: you play spellsinger, get purify, complain about RNG, play some more stuff. Turn 8: you play the secret that copies whatever your opponent play (miror entitie or something like that, i forget) and some more crap. Turn 9: purify the majordomo executus you copied from your opponent and play more stuff. Turn 10: pyroblast oposing majordomo, go face with yours and win. YAY!
***** No i am not complaining. I use that talent. It is really fun. Even though my priest isn't that well geared I use that talent and I have a blast. Sorry I wrote that comment not in a way that I should have.
+Dymm Slayer I saw that talent, wouldn't it be absolutely amazing in Raids? You can keep void form up for a fuck ton of time (maybe even the whole fight?) and have a huge dmg boost. My spriest is only level 48 though and I got bored of it so don't take my word lol.
I'm running a fairly decent priest deck at a fairly shitty rank ok. And alot of my opponents are actually net decks working down. Now I don't have enough matches to call it good but it is atleast being consistent.
+Like a Pro if silence is before the effect in the card text then the buff would stay on the card because it is silenced first. Think of earth shock for shaman. Silence and deal one damage. You play it on a twilight drake. It silences then kills the drake. This is the same concept
Reminds me of that "ACTUALLY THE NEW WARSONG COMMANDER IS DECEPTIVELY STRONG THAT NEWER PLAYERS WON'T REALISE" thing. (I don't remember the official statement exactly).
Thank you kripp for being so brutally honest cause I've always had a soft spot for priest (My first class that I had success with while I was f2p). Thought about having to play around flamestrike and portal on turn 7 in arena and I just didnt have any words....
Know what would make this card strong? Just make it unsilence a minion. Giving it back all buffs it already had. It'll be balanced in the term that it's really good if your foe can only silence it and leave it ( and that'll happen a lot less with that type of card floating around) They just need to not be scared of making new cards that have new mechanics like that. The discover mechanic is pretty sweet and so was inspire. Now just make debuffs that last along with ways to deal with the overpowering silence shit.
Now, i know this comment section is just so flooded with Kripparians i will never be noticed, but this kind of shit that they pull on us, players, is why i have decided not to spend any money on this game at all. I just dont want to give people this fucking stupid any money. Not even a penny.
+Boggerino Creepperino Boggerino Creepperino, I would just like to thank you for all of the hard work you do for F2P players and arena. You the real MVP
I paid for expansions, and just grind away without paying for packs. Dragon priest seemed a logical direction based on the cards that I had. Now I am fucx0rz3d.
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thats not the problem since priest doesnt have that many minions that is worth reducing to 1 attack and it is hard for priest to even late game because of how weak the class is
OK so apparently you don't know why Purify is really good. So I explain you: 1. You will realize that you can remove negative effects from your minions 2. It draws you a card 3. It strictly forbid you from wasting it on enemy minions. 4. It costs just 2 mana + It's going to be so broken in arena. Who is the 2nd best class in arena? Paladin. What is his favorite card? Keeper. What Purify says to Keeper? Go to hell!
1. He realizes this, but Preist in any game mode except for arena hardly runs cards, especially cards they want to silence. Plus, if you have to silence an arena card you have a bad arena deck. 2. It costs 2 mana, and there is already better ways of drawing cards for 1 mana in preist. Plus, it doesnt mater if your getting rushed down. 3. Wasting it on enemy minions? How exactly? 4. In any game mode tempo is important, if you are not ahead of your opponent you lose because control cards dont do enough. Also the preist combo deck is not a good deck, and definitely will not get better than the other classes any time soon. 5. If they keeper your card, chances are that its already dead, or if you silence your card to fix it either it will lose its abilities that made it strong, or you are already close to death.
Good news to Kripp and all other arena players. Ben Brode just said in his video addressing the concerns on Purify that the HS team was removing Purify from Arena games
Nah priest still has some of the strongest cards in the game. The problem with the old shaman was that some of their old strong cards and playstyle just got power creeped out entirely. Then again i suppose there isn't much of a diffirence between weak cards and unplayable strong ones.
Kripp is quite funny, actually, in this vid he made me exhale heavily through my nose a few times. It gave me the desire to finally catch up with his YT videos, there are so many of them :O
calm down kid, its hard to understand you. But if you mean what would i like to combo it with, then I was thinking it would be fun to play a big stat minion, copy it with Volazj and then silence it for a cute little play. Obviously its not very good and it would be better if the silence cost less but it would be fun. You could even play something like Icehowl and follow it up with Volazj, purify next turn if it sticks.
I never said the card wasn't bad, and i even said: "if it card was less mana". Also for the novelty you could run 2 of both with a Brann and have the possibly combo out 4 big minions if you somehow managed to get the board. I realize this is extremely unlikely but I'm clearly talking about a deck run for fun (Should be obvious from the fact that I mentioned Volazj). Either way, if you're going to complain about a post, actually read it first.
So the argument is that: "Not every class can be good at all times, there always be a -top- class". That is bullshit. Look at dota 2, it took a long time but in this meta basically every playstyle is viable (notice dota 2 has over 100 heroes with multiple skills and item interaction). Yet HS developers give up on balancing A CARD GAME. I think the statement would better be: "balancing all classes would require ACTUAL work from our side, and we are lazy as fuck so you are better off buying packs and playing net decks"
+Pseudo Lain The hell are you talking about? Dota 2 is extremely balanced. Literally over 100 heroes have already been picked in this year's international championships (and they just started a week ago).
Pseudo Lain i didnt say dota 2 is balanced. Ive said "every play style is viable". Also every pro player said this is the best patch in terms of balance. Should i trust in your opinion or in the opinion of every other dota expert?
@kripparian Should be "Silence a minion. If it's a friendly minion, draw a card" at 1 mana. GIves it flexibility in case you don't need to silence an enemy minion and you need a card draw (VERY situational but it's an equitable risk/reward play).
I was like "The Old Gods set looks so awesome! It's gonna be the best time to play hearthstone" Turned out to be true Now I see Karazhan It looks like the worst set ever made...
i dont think so. sure,the bad cards are really,like REEEEAAALLY bad. But Barnes,Medivh and the demon guy,idk his name right noe,are cool.The Card that destroys a minion and resummons is really cool,Zoobot seems fun,etc.
Actually Beta zoo and Aggro ARE going to change. When the rotation occurs zoo will lose, among other things, their best three drop. It's going to be a serious hit to them. As for Aggro Shaman, well, they lose their best one drop, two drop, AND three drop. Aggro Shaman will be gone. The rotation will take a huge hit on Aggro. The meta WILL be slowed.
i would like an archtype of silencing your minions but there are not support to it, 3 mana 6/6 deathrattle take 10 damage, 5 mana 9/9 cant attack something like that
Greetings! Ben Brode here. The Hearthstone Team and I have decided to add a powerful new card to the Priest-arsenal. It's called 'Purify'. After a very long discussion, we've decided to make the card 2 Mana instead of 3! Just think of the possibilities! Purify your own Zombie Chow to get a 3 Mana 2/3 with no downside, or use Purify on Ancient Watcher to get a baseline Chillwind Yeti for just 2 cards. Insane Value! At first we thought this card would be too good, but because we know how much Priest has been struggling in Arena we've decided to make it a Common card! Now every Priest has a higher chance of getting this amazing card!
I think blizzard dont care about arena. Period. It dosent earn them money, they actually loose money because of good players. They will release good and bad cards because its for balancing all the discover and random effects. Thats what going on there mind. The random plays gets the views on youtube not the calculated plays.
xD sorry man your logic is (i will make a new word) flawful. Because of good players it makes blizzard lose money? You know that in order to get 12 wins, you have to make your opponents get these loses? Blizzard could (if it's not already like that) make arena always be benefitial to them.
Could've used flawed. Also Blizzard makes some money off the pay4arena option, and even if it DOES lose them money, it is very unlikely, because f2ps will never use money on something like packs, instead I see that it brings them more players and is more friendly toward the f2p crowd.
what makes you think that arena deserves any kind of attention its a shitty mode for casuals who dont have money to buy packs. The game is in constructed and is balanced around that. You cant balance two different modes without removing cards from the draft etc.
If im not mistaken, u need 7 wins to be self sustainable in arena. And only the best players out there get more than 7 wins. The average players get 3 wins. N its safe to say that blizzard earns tons of money in arena from average and bad players
Hey guys blizzard here and we just wanted to say purify is a great card if you combo it with ancient watcher you spend 2 cards to get a 4 mana 4/5! think of all that value... If you want even more value you can try it with zombie chow! its a 3 mana 2/3!!!! Finally we just wanted to say we thought it would be better as a rare but we realized priest is not the best in arena so we made it common so almost all priests will have it!
i can see some plays with this card, it combos well with shadow madness and it is a good alternative to removing a minion out that stops you from doing what you want (ie. auchenai on board when you really need to heal and no way to remove it). This card in general allows you to have more leniency against misreads or misplays.
If you silence a shadow madness'ed minion it immediately returns it to the opponent. You don't get to keep it since the spell effect is to temporarily gain control of the minion for 1 turn. Silencing ends it prematurely.
They are the worst class right now, but there always HAS to be ninth best class. Besides they don't have very bad winrate, and people are playing priest wrong imo. Most of cards that current priest runs are too slow for him. Midrange dragon priest performs well and they will get new good dragons with karazhan. It's all good :)
Considering the meta right now, Priest might be the worst but it's not even half bad for someone with a pimped out deck. I have a burst mage and zoolock that both get owned by priest. That's half the fucking meta atm.
There is one reason to play the card, is basically like playing a deck that is based around bringing out minions that have a debuff but can be used to defend yourself. Silencing or negating someones effect has been around in card games for a long ass time, but I wouldn't straight up call it the worst card in the game as it has it's combos and it can bring out some pretty destructive elements to the field. I think you have discarded some of the possibilities which with Barnes is pretty high and even the 4 mana 7/7, which we know is a very deadly thing. This card basically has the same cost as the 7/7 with shaman as the shaman card has a 2 overcharge which is like loses 2 mana (unless unlocked but that's a minimum of 2 mana so you still lose it anyway.) Purify is basically a way to increase consistency of silences and it could bring a weird priest deck into play, which could be quite good as the cost reduction is great. One thing I keep seeing you hearthstone "pros" do is discard a card just because you read the text thought of a few things and straight up called it bad; HELL you called doctor boom bad and see where that went. my advise for you people is to not listen these idiots as they can't predict for shit.
I think he covered that in 2 different videos and both times he said that when blizzard nerfs cards they kill cards, and the other is that it would have been just fine if it was only 2 mana with the new effect; I could be wrong and it is the same video but I'm not 100% sure
Demonfuses are usable in the late game, plus warlock doesn't need it,the priest needs every bit of help they can get, but Blizzard only flings shit at it.
I am a person who mained priest since beta. I've endured all the nerfs, the cards being removed because they were 'bad' (I'm looking at you, Fade) but turned out to having been great in the current meta. My first golden hero was Anduin. I reached legend for the first time with a control priest in vanilla, and made it a mission to reach legend with priest at least once per expansion - even after Naxx when everything started going really downhill for priests. And I've succeeded, as tough as it's been. But not after WotOG. I'm averaging 5.2 wins in arena with priests (as opposed to 6.8 total, 7.8 with mage and 7.4 with Warlock), and though I reached rank 3 the first month of WotOG, I couldn't get up there. I was stuck between 3 and 5 for 15 days and ended up just doing the last three ranks with zoo. I've tried finding the unicorn priest since Ben "I can't believe I haven't been fired yet" Brode hinted that there might be something. I've failed miserably. I've tried aggro priest, midrange (stupid, I know, but hey - had to try), combo priest, control, dragon tempo, dragon control, C'thun, Yogg, freeze priest, N'Zoth, and numerous versions of Reno priests. Never gotten higher than rank 3. And now I've given up. After seeing the priest cards (and the other cards) in Karazhan, I am officially not playing priest anymore until the next expansion. If I get a priest quest, I will delete it. I have already deleted my priest decks. The day the last Kara cards were released, was the saddest day in my Hearthstone 'career'. You win, Blizzard. You've killed priests. I accept it. Just do us all a favour and delete the class from your system, so we don't have to pretend like you give an ounce of a shit about it.
I´m pretty sure that would be broken as fuck. Wild Growth is seen as a mandatory card in almost every single Druid deck...and the crytsal´s empty. Silencing a minion for a card AND a permanent crytsal? Nope.
That's a bit overboard. It would be amazing as a 0 mana draw a card deck thinner, just because the drawback isn't all that bad, since there are a lot of good minions people play that aren't hurt too badly by silence (Zombie Chow, Ancient Watcher, Acidic Swamp Ooze, Deathlord, Spider Tank, etc.).
+Joe PIlling no -1 is correct. Assuming cards 'cost' mana, and you are subtracting mana from your current mana pool, having a '-1 cost card' would equal out to 'gain 1 mana this turn'. A '+1 mana' is equivalent to a 1 mana card.
I dont like priest for his stealing playstyle anyway, its anoying so i kinda like it.. if it was my choice i'd delete priest entirely, maybe exchange it for DK
I don't mind if they move away from mind control, shadow madness and such cards. But Thoughtsteal and Mindivison are legit, that's copying, not stealing.
Mind Control seems almost no play and shadow madness is normally about as good as multi-shot which sees very little play too. They're also great cards for the game because you're required to play around them, bait them out etc.
And I dislike super aggressive play styles making me a control/combo player wishing for the death of aggro shaman. Being able to steal the scummy op cards people would play makes control priest oh so satisfying. But I'll still get wrecked my midrange/freeze/ and combos sometimes.
I think I disagree with all of these people saying Purify is bad. Kripp assumes in this video that silencing your own minion is a BAD effect, that comes with a card draw. To be fair, in Arena, silencing your own minion is almost always a bad thing. So Purify is a very bad card, for Arena, especially since it's common. BUT, silencing your own minions has TONS of applications in constructed. Here is a list of some off the top of my head: -An enemy Paladin pulls out a Humility, Repentance, or Eadric the Pure. You can silence your big minions back to full attack on your turn if they aren't killed. -An enemy Mage freezes your big minion to buy themselves time and leaves their face/important minion open, expecting it to be safe. Nope. Silence your own minion and the freeze effect disappears. -As a Priest, play Herald Volazj or Barnes. Summon 1/1 copy of your big minions, then silence the 1/1 copy. Suddenly the flimsy 1/1 Ragnaros that probably won't survive more than 1 turn becomes an 8/8. The second Deathwing Dragonlord (that you don't need the deathrattle effect of because you already have one on the board, the one you duplicated) turns from a 1/1 with useless deathrattle into a 12/12. Et cetera, plenty more good minions for this combo. -Play Eerie Statue or Fel Reaver in your deck. Throw it out there. Your opponent will either waste valuable removal killing an otherwise useless card (unlikely, they will probably just ignore it), or you get a 7/7 for 6 mana (same as a flamewreathed) and draw a card to replace the extra one you used (since flamewreathed is only 1 card, this combo is 2 cards). With Fel Reaver, you probably want to play them in the same turn, not one turn apart, but you can get an 8/8 for 7 mana, and cycle a card. Or you can leave it at 5 mana 8/8 if you think you can win and deal with the card burn from Reaver. Flexibility. -Silencing Soulpriest if you need to heal. Silencing Spawn of Shadows if you want to heal instead of trading 4 damage for 2 damage. Silencing your Deathwing Dragonlord if you decide you don't want to put al your dragons out at once, like if you think your opponent has a Deathwing or Doom or Twisting Nether saved to clear them out. Dealing with emergencies like that. -Using Shadow Madness to steal an enemy minion and silencing it will make it your minion permanantly, essentially making it a cheaper but more limited Mind Control. Also, if you steal a minion from an opponent that has an effect you don't like (for example, you get a Void Crusher from a Warlock using Thoughtsteal, Entomb, or Mind Vision) you can still play that minion without having to restrict your plays, it just costs two extra mana. Obviously all of these uses are limited and situational, but all the little situational uses and the flexibility of this card make it pretty good. The sort of Priest Deck I'm thinking of would, of course, run such cards as Herald Volazj, Barnes, some big dragons along with Deathwing Dragonlord for endgame, Soulpriest, Eerie Statue/Fel Reaver (but not both), Thoughtsteal, Shadow Madness, The Beast, a few others, and then fill in the rest of the deck slots however you like. I'm not claiming it's a top-tier card by any means, and won't save priest as a class. Not even close. But I think people are not very aware of what this card is capable of. And to those of you who say "Just run regular Silence, problem solved", what if I want silences for my own minions AND the enemy minions? What if I don't want to run out of cards because my opening hand had a 0 cost card that didn't cycle in a class with no card draw? What if, heaven forbid, I end up wanting to silence my own minions...MORE THAN TWICE? I could run two Fel Reavers and two Eerie Statues and silence them all. Fel Reavers, 5 mana 8/8 with Silence. Eerie Statue, 6 mana 7/7 and draw a card with Purify. If I have the coin, I could play a turn 3 7/7, turn 4 purify, attack, and hero power, turn 5 8/8, turn 6 7/7...assuming I had all the right cards in hand of course. But the point is, while that is unlikely, the card can be used for other things besides just this combo. I don't think that's that bad. It's not amazing, but it's not as bad as everyone's making it out to be.
Then you would play silence, which has even more uses and costs even less than this garbage. Edit: Purify IS bad. There's no debate about it. When you look at other cards from other classes, you can easily see how bad it is. Hell, you know how bad it is if you look at Priest itself. They have a 1 mana spell, that draws AND gives your minion +2 health, and they have a 0 mana silence. Purify is a 2 mana spell, that you ONLY CAN USE ON YOUR OWN MINIONS, and cycles. That's absolutely trash compared to some cards from other classes. Flare, Mark of Y'shaarj, Battle Rage, Ancestral Knowlegde, Loot Hoarder, Shiv, Slam, Wrath, Commanding Shout, hell, even Novice Engineer is better. Combine that with the fact, that it's absolutely fucking useless right now, and it's just even worse. I understand the Hearthstone team wants to push a new archetype with self silence and stuff, but right now, it's not something that works, because there aren't enough cards that benefit, and those that do, aren't good enough in any way. If they wanted this to be a viable card, they should have put it out in the NEXT expansion, where more cards are going to get revealed, and where it can get some synergy. What Priest needs right now, is early game. Strong early game. A 2 mana spell, that is completely useless, is probably the worst thing they ever could have done.
I am happy that you are passionate but keep it short. I say this as a fellow rambler. The problem with all your examples is that all those plays are already possible with regular silence. If making plays like Eerie statue or fel reaver into silence was good enough it would already see play. But all your plays are simply too weak too slow or too inconsistant. Imagine you play eerie statue and then next turn you purify it. Congratulations you just needed a 2 card combo to play the exact same card as shaman does in 1. However even the 4 mana shaman card is no longer an auto include. Ofcourse you are right if you want to play a deck like that you will need more draw. But the more bad/situational cards that are in your deck the more draw you need in the first place. If purify cost 0 mana your deck idea might have a small chance.
It would make sense if the card also healed your cards in the process, maybe make it's namesake understandable. While we are on the topic of healing, Priest needs a healing effect reminiscent of the Shaman's totem effect, where the number of heals builds some sort of efficient drop, like Thing from below does for Shaman. Auchenai needs friends to back her up, and 9 times out of 10, they're too big or inconsistent to combo, or hell, too weak to put a dent in, say, that 2/6 four drop warrior has, among others. It's like the priest lacks an identity, and keeps trying to be different classes with his healing spells, but ultimately, needs healing synergy of his own. Actual control, not just situational garbage. Actual power, not just burst one offs that are more combo intensive than Rogue. Actual strategies, not just piling legendaries and hoping for the best. That's what the priest is in the Meta right now. A lost child among champions.
Face Hunter: If I'm going down, you two are coming with me! Combo Druid: Nuuuuuuuuuu! Priest of any kind: Hah I'm already at rock bottom, your threat means nothing
How to make this card usable: Have it "unsilence" a minion, basically like a delayed Counterspell. That stops the easy silence removal of powerful priest big minions.
Kripp, I have liked you for a long time. Liked you a lot. After this video, I realize it's turned into a Love type emotion. THANK YOU. Sincerely, Golden Priest account holder circa 2014
You also get card draw, which pretty much means that it's .5 mana silence a friendly minion. Which makes ancient watcher a 2.5 mana 4/5 Or a 4 mana 4/5 draw a card, which is good.
They probably made the card cost two mana because you can spend the same amount of mana on your hero power to draw a card from a Northshire Cleric on the board. So a card to cater for the times when you don't have a Northshire Cleric on the board.
This synergizes well with the 6 mana 3/3 that has battlecry: destroy an enemy minion no? Now you can play the 6 mana card and then silence it and then draw. It stops the deathrattle effects from going off.
Ya, I agree, i love priest, and even in this meta i try to force a control priest deck to work, and I was excited about this expansion thinking priest might get a little buff, then saw this here. And just cried a little at the state of the meta.
Priest is one of the most entertaining classes to play in the right meta... that pretty much never surfaces.... and they are still not broken when they are in their ideal matchups most of the time. Priest needs a lot of love. You could buff a multitude of priest cards that are played, by signifigant amounts, in priest and STILL it would not approach overpowered.
Super Synergy: The trick is to spent time and spells to buff your own minion and then ..... suddenly purify it...you need to lmao or baffle your opponent till they concede of ''your'' madness or make him to do mistakes...... it is a very sneaky card that can catch your opponent by surprise even by seeing you using it... i highly recommend you guys to use this card!!!!!
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If Blizzard had a gun with two bullets in a room with Hitler, Bin Laden, and the Priest class, they'd shoot Priest twice. And draw a card.
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And the golden cookie award for best comment of the year receives... you sir
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+UberBaal ok it was worth it :D
You sir, are a hilarious fucking genius
Incoming Ben Brode:
"Players haven't just discovered the hidden potential in this card yet"
😂😂😂
classic
....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow it's amazing how often a phrase like that comes out of every game's community manager. "Guys we did a good job. You just don't get it, yet. Okay?"
he can say "it's just a prank bro, chill"
I was so inspired by the brilliant design of this card I made variations for other classes:
Back-Purify (2 Mana Rogue spell) :
_Deal 2 damage to an undamaged friendly minion. Draw a card._
Moon-Purify (2 Mana Druid spell):
_Deal 1 damage to a friendly character. Draw a card._
Ancestral Purify (2 Mana Shaman spell):
_Restore an enemy minion to full Health and give it taunt. Draw a card._
Answer is simple.
Give Mage Purify.
Give Priest Firelands Portal.
I would agree but portals really aren't priest's thing. Maybe heal for x then resurrect a random x cost minion that died this game?
+Josh Marsolais what makes you thing portals arent priest thing? Even warroirs have the portal,and they dont even use magic
+Josh Marsolais This is a thing. There is a priest card 6 mana on ONIK that is 6-mana heal 6 and summon a random 6 mana minion
The answer is simple, don't play Mage.
+Yinshuai Liu I wasn't aware of Ironforge portal before but even on hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Ironforge_Portal it says that portals are a mage utility spell. The hearthstone team likes to take liberties with warcraft lore. Oh well.
+Alexandre Teixeira I'm not seeing the card you are referring to on hearthstone.gamepedia.com/One_Night_in_Karazhan#Cards
Turn 4: Eerie statue
Turn 5: Purify
4 mana 7/7 with 2 overload OP OP!
Lol I never realized xD
Or just run regular silence and have a 4 mana 7/7 with no overload. This card is so bad it literally doesn't even have useful joke applications
After reading this I'm pretty sure your stuck in tier 25
turn 4: 4 mana 7/7
turn 4: 2 mana 3/2 remove overload
basically, +3/2 for nothing more
uses 2 cards vs 1, still worse
This card is so hilariously bad, especially since priest already has Power word: Shield, which costs 1 mana less and actually has a positive effect.
PWS is acutally 0 mana.
@@Dome31337 Back then it used to be 1 mana for +2 health on a minion and a draw
Shadow madness purify wombo combo. 6 mana silence an enemy minion op op
silence an enemy minion with 3 or less attack. WOW. power creep over the card silence. so much beter in holy wrath decks
Billy Diaz Why stop at 3? Throw in a shrinkmeister and you can silence an enemy 5 attack minion for the low low price of 8 mana. Good thing you can't do that in standard.
that doesn't work
unluckygamer69 If you're going to say that, at least say how you think the interaction would work instead.
+TheCookiezPlz when you silence a shadow madness minion it goes back to your opponent. So you'll be wasting 6 mana to silence a minion.
This card... It hurts.........
It's worse than you...
not tasty?
you are so good when compared to this piece of garbage
You can only silence your own minion
+Boggerino Creepperino silence a FRIENDLY minion
Atleast make it rare or epic so i'll get more dust when i disenchant it
Purify for first Legendary spell?
Pixy Wings YES YES YES
Next expansion - 1 mana 7/7, can not attack - priest only
then shaman drops a 0mana 5/5 taunt feelsbadman
Ayy Lmao, good card right there.
Priest will still not use purify for that. They will use silence, spellbreaker, and ironbeak.
yoavsnake You mean unused spell, expensive silence, and nerfed beak.
in case you didnt notice he said: 1 mana 7/7 which implies that you want to start to smash into things by turn 2. Ironbeak cost 3 so you waste a turn. Spellbreaker comes out even later. Silence for 0 is the only one that made sense here.
Priest was a mistake. Just replace it with Death Knight or whatever WoW class people keep requesting for years. Problem solved. Kappa
I can get behind this comment.
Please remove the Kappa from your comment. Seriously Please make that happen.
but i still dream of a good priest once again.
Everything good in your comment until "Kappa"
Dude you are everywhere.
This is a video I come back and watch about every 6 months
Agree, There's so much gold in this video haha
Same but about once a year
I've already quit Hearthstone.
Blizzard needs to bring fresh eyes/new blood to the Hearthstone development team.
The Hearthstone development team has shown time and time again that they are totally incompetent. There are numerous other CCG out there to learn from. There is also the outcries from the Hearthstone community who have said explicitly that having a core set is a bad idea and that Shaman and Priest's core sets are no where near as good as Warrior, Mage, Shaman, Warlock etc core sets.
Purify is a spit in the eye from the Hearthstone team. At no point since the beginning of Hearthstone has one class been so bad in both Arena and on Ladder and for such a long time.
Priest has never been top tier and no one saying it should be. All we are asking for is more balance between the best and worst decks. Updating/buffing Priests core set would go a long way towards mending all the hatred.
Man ur so right... Like this Karazhan expansion is complete shit. as if people gonna play Dragon, Beast and Murloc decks instead of cancer zoo and aggro shaman. they print shit cards in ADVENTURES. like as if somebody is interested in a vanilla 2 mana 3/2 Taunt. Like No Way Blizzard is That dumb...
nothing is wrong with having core sets
I just play this game when taking a shit at work. I'll go back to MTG for actual fun deckbuilding
+Lewis Birkett Except when the core set of some classes are forever for all eternity going to be stronger than the core set for other classes.
I agree completely. You'd think they'd take some notes from other card games.
Everyone is going to be wrong and Purify is the best card 2016
how
No
+SHARPxOix69 by the magical powers of Ben Brode
ppl will be magically purified of their doubts and hate of the card. Only costs 2 mana 2 :D.
purify a eerie statue a turn after you play it for a 4 mana 7/7 with overload (2)
I wish people would give me a chance :(
Ancient watcher + Purify = 4 mana 4/5 and you draw a card... Better than vanilla stats!
No, because it takes 2 cards to play, countering the draw effect. So it's a hard to play yeti.
And also AW + silence = 2 mana yeti
+Bees Nation you must be fun at parties. You need silencing
Dude, It's a joke account. It's satire.
U Look Familiar🤔
Purify in a nutshell: 2 Mana, common, abandon Hearthstone, start playing Elder Scrolls: Legends.
Elder scrolls VI : Valenwood
well that escalated quickly
So many new cards games, duelyst, elder scrolls legends, faeria, looks like ill have something better to do with my life then hearthstone.
Faeria or Gwent standalone but elder scrolls legends is gonna be gooooood
Or waifustone aka shadowverse
MVP of Priest is gonna be Arcane Anomaly with P Word: Shield, not class cards.
Arcane*
ZephyrSaix Dat, ty! Knew something was amiss. Edited and corrected.
+HighLanderPony np mate
***** Yeah, can always do that!
That's a 2 mana Twilight Welp, draw a card.
"I think babbling book is going to be 65ish, maybe 70!" -Kripparrian
As a Priest Player i feel betrayed..
Priest Player in 2016 LUL
Same
Run Me Ez Win Turn 4 Eerie Staue Turn 5 Me 4 Mana 7-7 Overload 2 EZ GAME
Should have played around betrayal bro
Ayy
To balance this card: add "...gain 10 empty mana crystals and summon dr boom"
7 boombots*. the madness AKA 28 damage to face
Nah, I am already to overpowered, the metagame is crumbling by my might.
Just take the word "friendly" away and it's basically the old owl which would be okay for a class card
Yeah. Honestly, it'd be better than the old owl, since drawing a card is more useful than a 2/1 body unless you really need that beast synergy.
Shea Briar True but it's still farily balanced because the owl had "draw a 2/1 beast and put it directly into the battlefield" which is tempowise better but the drawing is a cycling ability which is valuable when you build a deck that benefits from it.
Jonseredi Eh. They nerfed the owl, so clearly they thought it was too strong before. IMO it should be the same card text for 0 mana.
Shea Briar In the future please get an insight to the topic before saying something that'll make you look like an idiot. They nerfed silence cards because they wanted to test what kind of changes scarce silences would make to the gameplay. Not because they were too strong.
+Shea Briar Owl wasn't over powered. Even if it was, it was a neutral card. Class cards are supposed to be stronger than neutral cards. Owl was a 2 mana 2/1 with silence battlecry. 2/1 is worth 1 mana, so its silence battlecry was worth 1 mana. Priest already has a silence card worth 0 mana. Purify would be perfectly balanced at 2 mana silence and draw a card. It would be strong if it was 1 mana, but still balanced. The way it is right now is complete shit.
Anyone want to bet that Ben Brode will make video explaining why Purify is great card and why everyone are wrong about it.
Kripp already said if blizzard tries to explain why it's a good card and defend themselves. People will rage. Hard.
+Alloran I really think that the card is playable... again, it's the second cheapest Silence in the game, there is a specific way that can be used to your advantage, especially with the card draw effect.
+WingofTech silencing your own minion is bad tho. Priest plays a lot of cards that shouldn't be slienced. All of their minions, the Priest Minions you can get, would suck if silenced. like Sylvana, Rag, CThun, taunts, buffs. Priest is already too slow. This is another very slow card. It's literally a 2 mana draw one card. It's like wild growth on 10 mana but worse because you have to have a minion in play AND that minion is okay to silence. It could see play. And it might. But it's still the worse card I've seen.
did somone at blizzard pay you to somthing nice about the card 100% of the hearthstone players are rageing about lol
Bad cards are definitely playable. By bad players.
This is the greatest video by Kripp ever.
Has anyone made a "Laughing Spanish Man" video meme about Purify yet?
Yup.
there is: watch?v=YQB_p8etL00
thank god i'm not the only one who calls him that
although i find "The Laughing Spanish" much more high tier
+Jay Intal Thats not even this game you fucking idiot bot
you're asking lol
Turn 1: Zombie Chow. Turn 2: Purify. Turn 3: Profit.
Yes, a 3 mana 2/3 with no effect such a great card.
I am good.
+KatakiDoragon no effect? you draw card for tempo
Саша Веселов See?
Card draw =/= tempo. If it was, then playing a 5 mana draw 3 cards on an empty board would be massive tempo. It is not.
Purity; hurt your own minions (2 mana). Corruption; hurt your enemy minions (1 mana).
Execute: Destroy an enemy minion (1 mana)
Purify Corruption? Just put your brain into use.
Purify 2 mana 1 card Draw a card
-Corruption 1 mana 1 card
=1mana 0 card Draw a card
that's good
+Mr.Vojtik ok well how about this compared to power word shield?
Walter Taleno if you use pw shield on corrupted minion you just waist a card
No you cycle a card which is fine at 1 mana.There are plenty of times I've pw shielded an enemy I was planning on paining or deathing just to cycle. It's AMAZING if you can get use out of it to keep a minion alive, but it's still useful enough just to cycle at it's mana cost. You could ultimately wait to use pw shield on a minion in a later turn but if you just need the draw 1 mana is fine. Granted in that EXACT case purify will save your minion, but there is no warlock deck that PURPOSEFULLY runs corruption. It comes off dark pedler on occasion and the warlock isn't ususally super happy about it.
I think it would be kind of cool if it were "Silence a friendly minion, then give it +1/+1. Draw a card."
Turn 7: you play spellsinger, get purify, complain about RNG, play some more stuff.
Turn 8: you play the secret that copies whatever your opponent play (miror entitie or something like that, i forget) and some more crap.
Turn 9: purify the majordomo executus you copied from your opponent and play more stuff.
Turn 10: pyroblast oposing majordomo, go face with yours and win.
YAY!
uhm, no
We've found the cards potential!
ZOMG this just happened to me in arena so is 100% a good card guyzzz!!
+Alain 'Reyes even though its not out? Kappa
+e115mastery Joke?
Get rekt by silence priest in UnGoro
A very soothing rant. I was almost in tears when I saw some of the priests new Karazan stuff. Thank you for this video.
But hey, Shadow Priest is great in Legion! :P
Ikr its so fun. Especially surrender to madness. Best talent in the game.
***** No i am not complaining. I use that talent. It is really fun. Even though my priest isn't that well geared I use that talent and I have a blast. Sorry I wrote that comment not in a way that I should have.
+Dymm Slayer I saw that talent, wouldn't it be absolutely amazing in Raids? You can keep void form up for a fuck ton of time (maybe even the whole fight?) and have a huge dmg boost. My spriest is only level 48 though and I got bored of it so don't take my word lol.
Nice job Blizzard.. I am really triggered by this card
Thx for the video Kripp. For caring about balancing issues you are a champion of the game.
That shirt though. Lmfao
hahaha i know right.
The new gods
I'm early better make a joke.
Priests.
That was funny, but I know a better one.
Blizzard.
These are tears of laughter not pain from the soul crushing priest cards....honestly..
Good one, but there is one even more funny
Core ragger
+Flamewreatherino Faceleserino kriperino Hey that's no joke 4 mana 7/7???? Value boys, where else are you gonna get such a broken card?
the 201245th joke about priest is not even funny.
I can't find his first reaction to purify when he looks up the cards online during stream! That is his best reaction LOL
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+ㅤㅤ i love that hillary pic!
Purify is a good Aldor counter Kappa
Why do people not play priest ? Its not like they play with their own deck anyway
Priest has no core now that GvG and Nax have left so it is impossible to build a Priest deck.
It was obviously a joke regarding the fact that the priest steals all yo shit
lol no core? priest in a nutshell: Gives your minion 20+ hp and draw 15 cards from your opponents deck.
I'm running a fairly decent priest deck at a fairly shitty rank ok. And alot of my opponents are actually net decks working down. Now I don't have enough matches to call it good but it is atleast being consistent.
I also think Silence a friendly minion, and give it 2/1 would work. Plus card draw of course.
+Like a Pro you silence the minion, THEN give it a buff.
+Like a Pro if silence is before the effect in the card text then the buff would stay on the card because it is silenced first. Think of earth shock for shaman. Silence and deal one damage. You play it on a twilight drake. It silences then kills the drake. This is the same concept
+Like a Pro Silence THEN buff, genius.
silence would proc first ofc....sigh
Like a Pro Ok, I didnt wanna personally offend your existence. Chill out.
Reminds me of that "ACTUALLY THE NEW WARSONG COMMANDER IS DECEPTIVELY STRONG THAT NEWER PLAYERS WON'T REALISE" thing. (I don't remember the official statement exactly).
The Warsong Unicorn.
Thank you kripp for being so brutally honest cause I've always had a soft spot for priest (My first class that I had success with while I was f2p). Thought about having to play around flamestrike and portal on turn 7 in arena and I just didnt have any words....
Know what would make this card strong? Just make it unsilence a minion. Giving it back all buffs it already had. It'll be balanced in the term that it's really good if your foe can only silence it and leave it ( and that'll happen a lot less with that type of card floating around) They just need to not be scared of making new cards that have new mechanics like that. The discover mechanic is pretty sweet and so was inspire. Now just make debuffs that last along with ways to deal with the overpowering silence shit.
Who plays silence?
I'm arena? Plenty of people
that would be trash, just make it 0 mana
+Wiktor Åström 0 mana draw a card is OP.
L_Lopes Br it allows you to cycle through cards, pretty good
Now, i know this comment section is just so flooded with Kripparians i will never be noticed, but this kind of shit that they pull on us, players, is why i have decided not to spend any money on this game at all. I just dont want to give people this fucking stupid any money. Not even a penny.
Kripperinos support this comment.
Everyone who already owns two of me might as well join your cause.
+Boggerino Creepperino
Boggerino Creepperino, I would just like to thank you for all of the hard work you do for F2P players and arena. You the real MVP
I paid for expansions, and just grind away without paying for packs. Dragon priest seemed a logical direction based on the cards that I had. Now I am fucx0rz3d.
i'd say kilpelainen is pretty close to kripparian, you'll be noticed
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Come on, its obvious Paladin counter. Got minion with attack reduced to 1? Purify!
it even has a paladin in the art
or silense! or evolve!
thats not the problem since priest doesnt have that many minions that is worth reducing to 1 attack and it is hard for priest to even late game because of how weak the class is
Two videos with no gameplay, seems it's pretty good.
"boohoo, im a frog"
Watch his twitch vods for gameplay.
its spelled preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeety good actually your welcome
+Hamad Buqais k.
He put up like 55mins of gameplay either yesterday or the day before. Two huge videos on the Stormwind Brawl..
Purify, the Yamcha of heathstone
Hey, at least Yamcha was half competent once.
+Preaplanes 4 the Saibaimans
More like the Yajirobe of cards.
OK so apparently you don't know why Purify is really good. So I explain you:
1. You will realize that you can remove negative effects from your minions
2. It draws you a card
3. It strictly forbid you from wasting it on enemy minions.
4. It costs just 2 mana
+ It's going to be so broken in arena. Who is the 2nd best class in arena? Paladin. What is his favorite card? Keeper. What Purify says to Keeper? Go to hell!
Fuck you.
Just stop. It is fucking garbage.
All your comments are completely retarded
Guys you are going so Hard on him he Just missed the kappa
1. He realizes this, but Preist in any game mode except for arena hardly runs cards, especially cards they want to silence. Plus, if you have to silence an arena card you have a bad arena deck.
2. It costs 2 mana, and there is already better ways of drawing cards for 1 mana in preist. Plus, it doesnt mater if your getting rushed down.
3. Wasting it on enemy minions? How exactly?
4. In any game mode tempo is important, if you are not ahead of your opponent you lose because control cards dont do enough. Also the preist combo deck is not a good deck, and definitely will not get better than the other classes any time soon.
5. If they keeper your card, chances are that its already dead, or if you silence your card to fix it either it will lose its abilities that made it strong, or you are already close to death.
Good news to Kripp and all other arena players. Ben Brode just said in his video addressing the concerns on Purify that the HS team was removing Purify from Arena games
8:53 What if the Babbling Book gives you a Firelands Portal xD? Win-win.
Priest is worse than the old shaman
I am the Priests saving grace.
Nah priest still has some of the strongest cards in the game.
The problem with the old shaman was that some of their old strong cards and playstyle just got power creeped out entirely.
Then again i suppose there isn't much of a diffirence between weak cards and unplayable strong ones.
No wonder I like it so much.
I like decks that are terrible. Beating an opponent with a shitty deck in RNG ways or ridiculous ways is so satisfying.
Actually i think priest compared to other clases of the same patch is at the moment THE weakest any class has ever been from the relese of the game.
True
Kripp is quite funny, actually, in this vid he made me exhale heavily through my nose a few times.
It gave me the desire to finally catch up with his YT videos, there are so many of them :O
Been watching video about 10 minutes. Look down at his shirt for the first time. I am now scared.
if it was less mana i'd like it in a Volazj deck.
WHAT, WHAT CARD WOULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT TO USE THIS IN IN A VOLASJ DECK
+Magooster i think you mean why.
calm down kid, its hard to understand you.
But if you mean what would i like to combo it with, then I was thinking it would be fun to play a big stat minion, copy it with Volazj and then silence it for a cute little play. Obviously its not very good and it would be better if the silence cost less but it would be fun. You could even play something like Icehowl and follow it up with Volazj, purify next turn if it sticks.
If you silence 1/1 summoned by volazj it gets it's stats back
I never said the card wasn't bad, and i even said: "if it card was less mana".
Also for the novelty you could run 2 of both with a Brann and have the possibly combo out 4 big minions if you somehow managed to get the board. I realize this is extremely unlikely but I'm clearly talking about a deck run for fun (Should be obvious from the fact that I mentioned Volazj).
Either way, if you're going to complain about a post, actually read it first.
I would not be surprised to see this card saying "Silence an enemy minion. Draw a card." as the expansion comes out.
So the argument is that:
"Not every class can be good at all times, there always be a -top- class".
That is bullshit. Look at dota 2, it took a long time but in this meta basically every playstyle is viable (notice dota 2 has over 100 heroes with multiple skills and item interaction). Yet HS developers give up on balancing A CARD GAME. I think the statement would better be:
"balancing all classes would require ACTUAL work from our side, and we are lazy as fuck so you are better off buying packs and playing net decks"
Anyone that says Dota2 is balanced doesn't play Dota2
+Pseudo Lain The hell are you talking about? Dota 2 is extremely balanced. Literally over 100 heroes have already been picked in this year's international championships (and they just started a week ago).
Pseudo Lain
i didnt say dota 2 is balanced. Ive said "every play style is viable".
Also every pro player said this is the best patch in terms of balance. Should i trust in your opinion or in the opinion of every other dota expert?
Dota is balanced,the current terrorblade metacancer applies only to pro games and people at pubs who dont ocutner himi
More balanced than any other game of the same genre.
On point. Amen.
Ave Maria ave maria
@kripparian Should be "Silence a minion. If it's a friendly minion, draw a card" at 1 mana. GIves it flexibility in case you don't need to silence an enemy minion and you need a card draw (VERY situational but it's an equitable risk/reward play).
I was like
"The Old Gods set looks so awesome! It's gonna be the best time to play hearthstone"
Turned out to be true
Now I see Karazhan
It looks like the worst set ever made...
i dont think so. sure,the bad cards are really,like REEEEAAALLY bad.
But Barnes,Medivh and the demon guy,idk his name right noe,are cool.The Card that destroys a minion and resummons is really cool,Zoobot seems fun,etc.
+Hirni DerZockt
completely irrelevant zoo and aggro aren't going to change therefore meta is cancer and constructed is unplayable.
+Hirni DerZockt As a priest player the thought of barnes and medivh are the only things that make me want to play.
Actually Beta zoo and Aggro ARE going to change. When the rotation occurs zoo will lose, among other things, their best three drop. It's going to be a serious hit to them.
As for Aggro Shaman, well, they lose their best one drop, two drop, AND three drop. Aggro Shaman will be gone.
The rotation will take a huge hit on Aggro. The meta WILL be slowed.
The Curator is very interesting as well.
i would like an archtype of silencing your minions but there are not support to it, 3 mana 6/6 deathrattle take 10 damage, 5 mana 9/9 cant attack something like that
Greetings! Ben Brode here. The Hearthstone Team and I have decided to add a powerful new card to the Priest-arsenal. It's called 'Purify'. After a very long discussion, we've decided to make the card 2 Mana instead of 3! Just think of the possibilities! Purify your own Zombie Chow to get a 3 Mana 2/3 with no downside, or use Purify on Ancient Watcher to get a baseline Chillwind Yeti for just 2 cards. Insane Value! At first we thought this card would be too good, but because we know how much Priest has been struggling in Arena we've decided to make it a Common card! Now every Priest has a higher chance of getting this amazing card!
I think blizzard dont care about arena. Period. It dosent earn them money, they actually loose money because of good players. They will release good and bad cards because its for balancing all the discover and random effects. Thats what going on there mind. The random plays gets the views on youtube not the calculated plays.
xD sorry man your logic is (i will make a new word) flawful. Because of good players it makes blizzard lose money? You know that in order to get 12 wins, you have to make your opponents get these loses? Blizzard could (if it's not already like that) make arena always be benefitial to them.
My logic may have flaw like a seive but there are no efforts on blizzard part to improve arena or balance keeping arena in mind. That you can't deny
Could've used flawed. Also Blizzard makes some money off the pay4arena option, and even if it DOES lose them money, it is very unlikely, because f2ps will never use money on something like packs, instead I see that it brings them more players and is more friendly toward the f2p crowd.
what makes you think that arena deserves any kind of attention its a shitty mode for casuals who dont have money to buy packs. The game is in constructed and is balanced around that. You cant balance two different modes without removing cards from the draft etc.
If im not mistaken, u need 7 wins to be self sustainable in arena. And only the best players out there get more than 7 wins. The average players get 3 wins. N its safe to say that blizzard earns tons of money in arena from average and bad players
Kripps reply to this comment. Let's see how much are we.
it's only me, i killed the rest
good luck, nice video to gather.
+Islamerino Kripperino no everyone else drank me
wut
...stepping away from the computer before it explodes
Auchenai Soulpriest: play it, circle, board clear; purify; back to heals
its not that bad... you can silence shadow madness
it gives the minion to the opponent immideately
+Aremder Aremder I don't think that's how it works
Hey guys blizzard here and we just wanted to say purify is a great card if you combo it with ancient watcher you spend 2 cards to get a 4 mana 4/5! think of all that value... If you want even more value you can try it with zombie chow! its a 3 mana 2/3!!!! Finally we just wanted to say we thought it would be better as a rare but we realized priest is not the best in arena so we made it common so almost all priests will have it!
its 6 fucking mana
+Random Guy Thats how it works unfortunately. I learned it the hard way.
WE NEED MORE RANT VIDEOS, KRIPP.
i can see some plays with this card, it combos well with shadow madness and it is a good alternative to removing a minion out that stops you from doing what you want (ie. auchenai on board when you really need to heal and no way to remove it). This card in general allows you to have more leniency against misreads or misplays.
ain't saying that it's an amazing card, but it can also go well with other cards in the future
If you silence a shadow madness'ed minion it immediately returns it to the opponent. You don't get to keep it since the spell effect is to temporarily gain control of the minion for 1 turn. Silencing ends it prematurely.
+Jesse Frederick rlly? damn OK then it's not as good as i thought .-.
Plot twist: Purify was made to finally fix majordomo!
I think 2 players got to legend with priest.
lul
Only wintrades out of pity my friends....
More than I thought. Lmao.
This card fits perfectly in aggro priest. Turn 5 play wolf rider then purify, try to attack and concede.
So, Brode made a video about it. Sorry Kripp but the card is great in his opinion and it's a FUN card.
he didn't say it was a great card, and he even said it would be removed from arena
Because apparently, losing is really fun!
Card is garbage. It'd be mediocre at 1, it's awful at 2.
This is one of the many reasons why i will stop playing hearthstone. Blizzard has no idea how to make cards and try to balance the game.
They are the worst class right now, but there always HAS to be ninth best class. Besides they don't have very bad winrate, and people are playing priest wrong imo. Most of cards that current priest runs are too slow for him. Midrange dragon priest performs well and they will get new good dragons with karazhan. It's all good :)
Considering the meta right now, Priest might be the worst but it's not even half bad for someone with a pimped out deck. I have a burst mage and zoolock that both get owned by priest. That's half the fucking meta atm.
but i dont like dragon priest :(
9th class with 1 archetype dragon. most other classes have 3+ semi viable decks. Blizzard gets a free pass for being blizzard.
There is one reason to play the card, is basically like playing a deck that is based around bringing out minions that have a debuff but can be used to defend yourself. Silencing or negating someones effect has been around in card games for a long ass time, but I wouldn't straight up call it the worst card in the game as it has it's combos and it can bring out some pretty destructive elements to the field. I think you have discarded some of the possibilities which with Barnes is pretty high and even the 4 mana 7/7, which we know is a very deadly thing. This card basically has the same cost as the 7/7 with shaman as the shaman card has a 2 overcharge which is like loses 2 mana (unless unlocked but that's a minimum of 2 mana so you still lose it anyway.)
Purify is basically a way to increase consistency of silences and it could bring a weird priest deck into play, which could be quite good as the cost reduction is great.
One thing I keep seeing you hearthstone "pros" do is discard a card just because you read the text thought of a few things and straight up called it bad; HELL you called doctor boom bad and see where that went. my advise for you people is to not listen these idiots as they can't predict for shit.
why no bladeflurry nerf rant but now this
ikr they killed rogue in constructed
What are you talking about, rogue is still quite good. Miracle is a viable deck.
I think he covered that in 2 different videos and both times he said that when blizzard nerfs cards they kill cards, and the other is that it would have been just fine if it was only 2 mana with the new effect; I could be wrong and it is the same video but I'm not 100% sure
Because I'm so overpowered.
+Purifyerino Kripperino A tip: Purifyrino Kripperino would sound better than what you got now
Demonfuse is worse than purify. So is poison blade.
Poisoned blade is good if you don't have the rogue hero power, purify isn't
Not even close to being true. Those two both actually have a positive effect on the game, as minute as it might be.
Demonfuses are usable in the late game, plus warlock doesn't need it,the priest needs every bit of help they can get, but Blizzard only flings shit at it.
Otk demonlock op
Good luck making that work.
I am a person who mained priest since beta. I've endured all the nerfs, the cards being removed because they were 'bad' (I'm looking at you, Fade) but turned out to having been great in the current meta. My first golden hero was Anduin. I reached legend for the first time with a control priest in vanilla, and made it a mission to reach legend with priest at least once per expansion - even after Naxx when everything started going really downhill for priests. And I've succeeded, as tough as it's been.
But not after WotOG. I'm averaging 5.2 wins in arena with priests (as opposed to 6.8 total, 7.8 with mage and 7.4 with Warlock), and though I reached rank 3 the first month of WotOG, I couldn't get up there. I was stuck between 3 and 5 for 15 days and ended up just doing the last three ranks with zoo.
I've tried finding the unicorn priest since Ben "I can't believe I haven't been fired yet" Brode hinted that there might be something. I've failed miserably. I've tried aggro priest, midrange (stupid, I know, but hey - had to try), combo priest, control, dragon tempo, dragon control, C'thun, Yogg, freeze priest, N'Zoth, and numerous versions of Reno priests. Never gotten higher than rank 3.
And now I've given up. After seeing the priest cards (and the other cards) in Karazhan, I am officially not playing priest anymore until the next expansion. If I get a priest quest, I will delete it. I have already deleted my priest decks. The day the last Kara cards were released, was the saddest day in my Hearthstone 'career'.
You win, Blizzard. You've killed priests. I accept it. Just do us all a favour and delete the class from your system, so we don't have to pretend like you give an ounce of a shit about it.
Purify should give you mana....
Yeah, MAYBE if they gave you 1 filled permanent crystal, and draw a card, then it would only be an "eh" card
+Gandalf Baggins (SirWaffletheThird) That would be a really good Wild Growth then, right?
I´m pretty sure that would be broken as fuck. Wild Growth is seen as a mandatory card in almost every single Druid deck...and the crytsal´s empty. Silencing a minion for a card AND a permanent crytsal? Nope.
That's a bit overboard. It would be amazing as a 0 mana draw a card deck thinner, just because the drawback isn't all that bad, since there are a lot of good minions people play that aren't hurt too badly by silence (Zombie Chow, Ancient Watcher, Acidic Swamp Ooze, Deathlord, Spider Tank, etc.).
They could of made this card 0 mana
Maybe even -1 mana.
+Stefan Stanev u mean plus 1 mana
same thing, you spend -1 mana so you gain +1
+Joe PIlling no -1 is correct. Assuming cards 'cost' mana, and you are subtracting mana from your current mana pool, having a '-1 cost card' would equal out to 'gain 1 mana this turn'. A '+1 mana' is equivalent to a 1 mana card.
Richie Miles I used to explain things to people with a paragraph but then someone informed me that morons wont read that much...
Thank you so much for this video. I hope Team Five watches this and understands it.
I dont like priest for his stealing playstyle anyway, its anoying so i kinda like it.. if it was my choice i'd delete priest entirely, maybe exchange it for DK
Yea and the priest character - Anduin is kinda gay
I don't mind if they move away from mind control, shadow madness and such cards. But Thoughtsteal and Mindivison are legit, that's copying, not stealing.
Mind Control seems almost no play and shadow madness is normally about as good as multi-shot which sees very little play too. They're also great cards for the game because you're required to play around them, bait them out etc.
+MoltenMuffin still they are using your cards against you
And I dislike super aggressive play styles making me a control/combo player wishing for the death of aggro shaman. Being able to steal the scummy op cards people would play makes control priest oh so satisfying. But I'll still get wrecked my midrange/freeze/ and combos sometimes.
I think I disagree with all of these people saying Purify is bad.
Kripp assumes in this video that silencing your own minion is a BAD effect, that comes with a card draw. To be fair, in Arena, silencing your own minion is almost always a bad thing. So Purify is a very bad card, for Arena, especially since it's common.
BUT, silencing your own minions has TONS of applications in constructed. Here is a list of some off the top of my head:
-An enemy Paladin pulls out a Humility, Repentance, or Eadric the Pure. You can silence your big minions back to full attack on your turn if they aren't killed.
-An enemy Mage freezes your big minion to buy themselves time and leaves their face/important minion open, expecting it to be safe. Nope. Silence your own minion and the freeze effect disappears.
-As a Priest, play Herald Volazj or Barnes. Summon 1/1 copy of your big minions, then silence the 1/1 copy. Suddenly the flimsy 1/1 Ragnaros that probably won't survive more than 1 turn becomes an 8/8. The second Deathwing Dragonlord (that you don't need the deathrattle effect of because you already have one on the board, the one you duplicated) turns from a 1/1 with useless deathrattle into a 12/12. Et cetera, plenty more good minions for this combo.
-Play Eerie Statue or Fel Reaver in your deck. Throw it out there. Your opponent will either waste valuable removal killing an otherwise useless card (unlikely, they will probably just ignore it), or you get a 7/7 for 6 mana (same as a flamewreathed) and draw a card to replace the extra one you used (since flamewreathed is only 1 card, this combo is 2 cards). With Fel Reaver, you probably want to play them in the same turn, not one turn apart, but you can get an 8/8 for 7 mana, and cycle a card. Or you can leave it at 5 mana 8/8 if you think you can win and deal with the card burn from Reaver. Flexibility.
-Silencing Soulpriest if you need to heal. Silencing Spawn of Shadows if you want to heal instead of trading 4 damage for 2 damage. Silencing your Deathwing Dragonlord if you decide you don't want to put al your dragons out at once, like if you think your opponent has a Deathwing or Doom or Twisting Nether saved to clear them out. Dealing with emergencies like that.
-Using Shadow Madness to steal an enemy minion and silencing it will make it your minion permanantly, essentially making it a cheaper but more limited Mind Control. Also, if you steal a minion from an opponent that has an effect you don't like (for example, you get a Void Crusher from a Warlock using Thoughtsteal, Entomb, or Mind Vision) you can still play that minion without having to restrict your plays, it just costs two extra mana.
Obviously all of these uses are limited and situational, but all the little situational uses and the flexibility of this card make it pretty good. The sort of Priest Deck I'm thinking of would, of course, run such cards as Herald Volazj, Barnes, some big dragons along with Deathwing Dragonlord for endgame, Soulpriest, Eerie Statue/Fel Reaver (but not both), Thoughtsteal, Shadow Madness, The Beast, a few others, and then fill in the rest of the deck slots however you like.
I'm not claiming it's a top-tier card by any means, and won't save priest as a class. Not even close. But I think people are not very aware of what this card is capable of.
And to those of you who say "Just run regular Silence, problem solved", what if I want silences for my own minions AND the enemy minions? What if I don't want to run out of cards because my opening hand had a 0 cost card that didn't cycle in a class with no card draw? What if, heaven forbid, I end up wanting to silence my own minions...MORE THAN TWICE? I could run two Fel Reavers and two Eerie Statues and silence them all. Fel Reavers, 5 mana 8/8 with Silence. Eerie Statue, 6 mana 7/7 and draw a card with Purify. If I have the coin, I could play a turn 3 7/7, turn 4 purify, attack, and hero power, turn 5 8/8, turn 6 7/7...assuming I had all the right cards in hand of course. But the point is, while that is unlikely, the card can be used for other things besides just this combo.
I don't think that's that bad. It's not amazing, but it's not as bad as everyone's making it out to be.
Then you would play silence, which has even more uses and costs even less than this garbage.
Edit: Purify IS bad. There's no debate about it. When you look at other cards from other classes, you can easily see how bad it is. Hell, you know how bad it is if you look at Priest itself. They have a 1 mana spell, that draws AND gives your minion +2 health, and they have a 0 mana silence.
Purify is a 2 mana spell, that you ONLY CAN USE ON YOUR OWN MINIONS, and cycles. That's absolutely trash compared to some cards from other classes.
Flare, Mark of Y'shaarj, Battle Rage, Ancestral Knowlegde, Loot Hoarder, Shiv, Slam, Wrath, Commanding Shout, hell, even Novice Engineer is better.
Combine that with the fact, that it's absolutely fucking useless right now, and it's just even worse. I understand the Hearthstone team wants to push a new archetype with self silence and stuff, but right now, it's not something that works, because there aren't enough cards that benefit, and those that do, aren't good enough in any way. If they wanted this to be a viable card, they should have put it out in the NEXT expansion, where more cards are going to get revealed, and where it can get some synergy.
What Priest needs right now, is early game. Strong early game. A 2 mana spell, that is completely useless, is probably the worst thing they ever could have done.
do you even play priest? they have silence already. dont talk out your ass if you dont even play the game.
I am happy that you are passionate but keep it short. I say this as a fellow rambler.
The problem with all your examples is that all those plays are already possible with regular silence. If making plays like Eerie statue or fel reaver into silence was good enough it would already see play.
But all your plays are simply too weak too slow or too inconsistant.
Imagine you play eerie statue and then next turn you purify it.
Congratulations you just needed a 2 card combo to play the exact same card as shaman does in 1. However even the 4 mana shaman card is no longer an auto include.
Ofcourse you are right if you want to play a deck like that you will need more draw. But the more bad/situational cards that are in your deck the more draw you need in the first place.
If purify cost 0 mana your deck idea might have a small chance.
It would make sense if the card also healed your cards in the process, maybe make it's namesake understandable.
While we are on the topic of healing, Priest needs a healing effect reminiscent of the Shaman's totem effect, where the number of heals builds some sort of efficient drop, like Thing from below does for Shaman. Auchenai needs friends to back her up, and 9 times out of 10, they're too big or inconsistent to combo, or hell, too weak to put a dent in, say, that 2/6 four drop warrior has, among others.
It's like the priest lacks an identity, and keeps trying to be different classes with his healing spells, but ultimately, needs healing synergy of his own. Actual control, not just situational garbage. Actual power, not just burst one offs that are more combo intensive than Rogue. Actual strategies, not just piling legendaries and hoping for the best. That's what the priest is in the Meta right now. A lost child among champions.
of you silence a shadowadness minion it goes back for that reason I kiss recombubulator
Face Hunter: If I'm going down, you two are coming with me!
Combo Druid: Nuuuuuuuuuu!
Priest of any kind: Hah I'm already at rock bottom, your threat means nothing
This shouldn't be a priest card this should be a feminist card:
Purify:
Silence your opponent
Draw a victim card
I agree with this. I love what priest can do however I have not been able to find any consistency.
Thirst.
Fuck. I screwed it up. :(
MeagleEmpire *worth
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How to make this card usable:
Have it "unsilence" a minion, basically like a delayed Counterspell. That stops the easy silence removal of powerful priest big minions.
Kripp, I have liked you for a long time. Liked you a lot. After this video, I realize it's turned into a Love type emotion. THANK YOU.
Sincerely,
Golden Priest account holder circa 2014
You did it kripp! Brode stated that Purify will not show up in arena!
You also get card draw, which pretty much means that it's .5 mana silence a friendly minion. Which makes ancient watcher a 2.5 mana 4/5 Or a 4 mana 4/5 draw a card, which is good.
They probably made the card cost two mana because you can spend the same amount of mana on your hero power to draw a card from a Northshire Cleric on the board.
So a card to cater for the times when you don't have a Northshire Cleric on the board.
This synergizes well with the 6 mana 3/3 that has battlecry: destroy an enemy minion no? Now you can play the 6 mana card and then silence it and then draw. It stops the deathrattle effects from going off.
His shirt accurately describes his feelings on the subject.
Ya, I agree, i love priest, and even in this meta i try to force a control priest deck to work, and I was excited about this expansion thinking priest might get a little buff, then saw this here. And just cried a little at the state of the meta.
As long if you play with your heart and rank 20 any deck is viable
Text should be: "Silence ALL minions. Draw a card." Then it's balanced.
Or: "Restore a minion to full health. Draw a card." Balanced
well said. these problems need to be addressed. shouldn't be an issue if they are addressing all cards in the game and comparing
Priest is one of the most entertaining classes to play in the right meta... that pretty much never surfaces.... and they are still not broken when they are in their ideal matchups most of the time. Priest needs a lot of love. You could buff a multitude of priest cards that are played, by signifigant amounts, in priest and STILL it would not approach overpowered.
Hey, look, Kripp is playing Priest! 8:59
Super Synergy: The trick is to spent time and spells to buff your own minion and then ..... suddenly purify it...you need to lmao or baffle your opponent till they concede of ''your'' madness or make him to do mistakes...... it is a very sneaky card that can catch your opponent by surprise even by seeing you using it... i highly recommend you guys to use this card!!!!!