The Legend of Ace Continues? (Low Elo Legends)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2025
- Ace is a player who has a very unique style. Mine ALL the forward stones and golds and save the rest for later. Is this strategy good enough to succeed or is it simply too bold and ridiculous to have a chance now that his reputation is understood?
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I actually do watch every one of your videos since i don't like to use twitch when im working. Every day after i come home from work, i prepare myself something to eat and log into youtube hoping you have a new video (specially low elo legends), and i havent even played AoE in a couple years, keep up the good work!
I think by every video he actually means the twitch archive, which are all way longer and covers multiple games everyday, though not all as good as the ones ended up on youtube.
Same here
@@T2266 His twitch archives make for great before bed watching.
@@runakovacs4759 How do you even have time to sleep if that's what you watch before bed.
@@T2266 The laughter helps distract from the demons of the mind!
I don't think ace cares about winning. I think ace's terminal goal is to maximize the amount of gold and stone they get and in order to do so they need to defeat the enemy sometimes.
Capitalist AOE2: Take as much gold as possible so that you lose the battle but win the war.
STONKS📈
The ultimate, Ace in the Hole!
Funny thing is red actually happened to do about everything right to counter this exact strategy by making scouts, just a few archers, scouting the whole map, raiding vills, spreading out forward TCs on neutral resources, walling off half the map, generally having lots of map control, and ultimately collecting more resources. He just..gave up after an hour...
I'm old, call me boomer. Played massive amounts of AOE1 on the MS Zone. Cho-wars, DM, etc, had a blast. For AOE1, map gold control usually won games. Who could mine enemy gold, sneaky mines in corners, etc, which seems to be Ace's strategy. But with markets and relics, AOE2 is less susceptible to this. It CAN tilt an opposing player though to find his "safe, back rainy-day gold" being heavily mined by stealth vills. I say, if it's fun, do it. It's not always about crushing someone.
Ace has clearly watched SC2 Marines and thought "I want me a piece of that". He got them stimpack in the castle upgrade, makes sure to get his +3+3 upgrades and stutters steps his way to victory.
This is exactly what I thought when he was fighting the cavaliers and paladins
Red: floats 1000s of res
Also Red: "why game so long why can't I push with my 10 palas"
He may have started using auto scout because of the idea that auto scout "knows" where resources are. Once or two times with scout finding resources fast and you got your confirmation bias
To be fair, it’s really hard to scout the entire map manually. For scouting your opponent, manual is best, for scouting the map auto scout is waaaay better.
@@RobotShield for the first 5 mins, u scout urself to find ur stsrting resources and ur enemy. After that u need to scout the rest of map and have more villagers to control, so autoscout is good till u reach feudal
So glad we got spectator chat back! We actually know why the game ended!
We do have spec chat for live games now which is amazing, but this was actually a recording that Ace sent to T90 and recordings always did have chat.
Next we need to have microsoft dial back their hyper-sensitive chat filter.
I'm no expert but I feel like if Ace did something to distract his opponent more he could be more successful taking his gold. Build a tower in opponents base or send a couple of units to raid first, or just something to distract so his opponent can't just run out and clean up the vils. That would require delaying taking mid gold a little bit so maybe he doesn't want to
I follow all low elo legends cause you always choose the games where the viewers and casters BOTH have fun and i love that,thank you T90!
ace doesn't play to win, he plays to collect resources, if you just let him get all resources he will thank you and tap out.
economical win lol
What a coincidence, I watched the episode from a year ago and when I wake up the legend of ace returns.
Legend of ace is amazing, but I need more legend of ROAR now that spec chat is enabled!
ace should start towering his mining camps. he mines so much stone, but doesn't spend it at the right time.
Ace must have been a Civ 3 player, with all these expendable colonies...
To the guy in chat who said "my mum said i have to watch the entire stream before i can do my homework" - youre the real mvp. i also hope you finished your ice cream, kid!
No homework until you finish your video games young man!
I love to see how Ace has improved/perfected his strat over the months, really cool to see :)
please more of this guy, this play style is so fun to watch
It's not just about the gold and stone, he is really good at dividing your attention, which is kind of a big deal when you are low elo. He does that by dropping castles and forcing the opponent to bring his army back home, which is so stressful and frustrating for the opponent and it also distracts them from focusing on raiding.
Ace is good at multitasking, has usually good micro, always has a plan about his unit composition and behind all the gold and stone rush he actually keeps his economy balanced. His goal here was massing gunpowder units from the archery range and that's a legit strategy to win in imp.
0:57 "Hi future Diego, go study for your test". This is for all of us
I understand the tiny trees but from my limited single player only play it's comfy and nostalgic to see them huge
Haha, it's nice to see this strategy taken to the extreme.
I only play the occasional game with friends and family and also tend to save my resources at home for later, since we aren't good enough to raid the camps overly much, even if we find them.
Lets me keep the safe gold for when there are multiple players out on the map in force.
I don't take all the camps at once, though.
he could improve his strat by waiting 10 more minute to be sure red already explore the map and will not come back to check
"Even you guys don't watch every single one of my videos"
I certainly do!
Red got tired. It's really that simple. It happens to me too. It just gets horribly boring after a while.
I'd agree if it wasn't for the fact Red only quit AFTER he lost the engagement with the hand cannons. Should've focused all his military on Ace's Base.
@@postblitz That doesn't really matter, he had res to spare. Part of the problem when you start getting bored or tired is taking those horrendous engagements just to see if you can make something happen.
I've quit games due to boredom despite having military and resource advantage. We only have so much time in a day and points aren't worth it.
The split on the hand cannons was *chefs kiss*
that split at the end!!!
What T90 doesn't realize is that Ace IS his brother.
"Even you guys don't watch every game"
Me: Haha yeah... about that
I love watching those legends videos, since when I play i like to use fun strategies to make the game more exciting. I personally love to sneak a villager behind enemy base and create army before attacking. Well that strategy is used mostly in later game if opponent has a forest behind their base, i mangonel my way so that they wont know i am creating army behind them, than I create an army and try to get enemies army to leave their base by being a pest, when I am ready and feel like its good time I mangonel my way from the military camp into back of their base with at least 100 military units coming in.
"TREADMILL CRANE!? What, to build mining camps faster!???" lol
Is Ace’s last name McDuck? He’s just got a knack for sniffing out all that valuable ore.
I want to se Hoang incorporate this into his strategy. Imagine the potential possibilities!
That wouldn't make any sense. Hoang's entire strategy revolves around killing his opponent quickly. The game would not last long enough for the 'stolen' resources to matter.
Yeah but this is just an objectively bad strategy. Hoang is the exact opposite his strategy is so good it's gotten him to one of the top players in the world.
@@JacobArvizu Yeah those "world top players" just click fast bruh :D
This dude is expanding faster than the fucking universe
*loses Onager to hand cannons*
*"ALT-F4! ALT-F4!"*
Ace is definitely a high elo troll considering that micro split against the onager.
I mean... you're taught to do that in the art of war. So in theory anyone who practices the basic tutorials can do that if they focus.
There's some micro gods in the lower elos. They just don't know macro at all
@@omologo95 I am a macro and micro average noob.
@@krishna1.097 I hyper focus on my macro, personally. Boom into dying is my favorite strat.
@@omologo95 I learn 24 minutes imperial age build order. I execute 34 minute imperial age build order into gg
T90 I just wanted to say that I love the thumbnails on your videos, especially when they have consistency. If I ever see Obama, then I know I'm in for a good time with some ol WWFSD
And here I sit with 1200 Elo and use auto scout just after finding all boars, sheep and gold. xD
"This is the perfect low ELO legends mining camp too." When you don't know why and think it looked pretty good (feelsbadman)
(I think at least, thats what he is saying)
The mining camp isn't bad, hes just saying, that this one is a low ELO legends wet dream, because they always try to put those in between resources.
I watch your every video from youtube. Low elo legends are my favorites, because i'm low elo player my self. I started to play AOE about 20 years ago and it is still fun.
I actually believe the thumbnail is the real-life Ace
23:00 i can understand mikiso. if hes a high elo player that plays this game the competitive way and he wants you hear your superior commentary on something that gonna improve him and be worthy of his time then ofc hes gonna be pissed to see a low elo gameplay. but its kind of ego cuz if you enjoy it then he should actually just leave instead of commenting on itxd
Me: *Watches every T90 video*
T90: "You don't, you liar."
Me: :(
Ace reminds me of Smaug the Dragon from The Hobbit movies. " I shall not part with a ssssingle gold mine!"
Plot twist: Ace of Emeralds is T90 brother
I was not expecting that ending lmfao xD
I picture ACE irl leaving home and heading to the store just to turn around at the last moment and running in the opposite direction like Jim "Truman" Carrey
For how much criticism you give it, the logic of his strategy is pretty sound:
Send villagers for farther resources first while the enemies use their home resources -> Later in the game, you still have starting resources to mine, and enemy doesn't have as much neutral resource to claim
Under 1-1,2k yes, the logic can work but after that you'd get behind in res due to the idle time and multiple mining camps, therefore the opponent would have more res on the table to use against you and either:
A) raid you to death in feudal, especially if the opponent realizes you are sending villages away he will totally pick them out.
Or
B) get fast castled to death. And not like red did here, I mean going straight for the throat: double stable knights or double archery xbows and basically control all the map.
Even if the opponent isn't that cutthroat, they will be good at not idling the TC, which is one of the thing that made Ace stay competitive in this game: he could lose vils and still be even because it's opponent wasn't good at keeping the TC producing. Above 1k usually people do a better job at producing vils.
Indeed, starve your enemy of resources.
Adding to what JoKad said, the resources you get at the start of the game are worth more than the resources you get later, because they give you more options: the faster you get gold, the faster you can either go with a Fast build, or react to your opponent doing the same.
As an example, even if all the opponent does is follow the Fast Castle plan from the tutorial, they can still have several knights out before your Castle Age is even finished, and the resources you spend defending from that would offset all the resources you would otherwise save.
That's literally just not true. It's not logical at all. The most important resource you have in early game is your villagers. You're basically willingly shooting yourself in the foot to go send them out blind on the map without map control. He literally lost like 10 villagers to that strategy in like the first 15 minutes alone. That's basically enough to GG yourself he just plays at a low ELO so its salvageable
The strategy was a complete failure in this game, Ace's eco was awful.
If you think about it, it's just a long-term lame to take the enemy's gold and stone.
not only that, but that way if you get pushed back into your own base, you have a ton of stone and gold to come back. I think on low level this does actually make some sense
You play age of empire 2
Ace plays age of gold 2
"I think this game is over"
Checks red bar
-Minute 19 of 39-
i just cant watch any videos without the captureage. im not really into aoe besides maybe my 25 hrs on steam and my 100 hrs as a child and 50hrs on spirit of the law. but still without this neet overlay its just not the same experience. i love your content. first youtuber in a long time where i watch legit 7 videos in a row. all 30+ mins and some 1:30h and im hooked. sadly there wont be enough content i guess...
I'm so annoyed that red didn't win that. Easy to say with hindsight and full vision but come on. Yellow was on 40-odd vills for most of the game, and for some reason red stopped making cav and queued up loads of onagers.
I was looking at video length multiple times and not understanding it. I had the feeling t90 was underestimating the chances of Ace(especially after the engagements with the handconneers started.) While he was still behind, he was clearly getting back in the game. So didn't see him resigning any time soon. But also couldn't see him winning so fast. Than the anticlimax
Hahahaha. Great game. Cant believe Red quit! Relics on the ground, near total map control, hahaha
The hussite wagons make it hard to defend your castle from rams. You need mangudai or melee troops as your castle unit.
Ace strikes again!
When I see Ace's strategy I immediately think about those Island guys with Portugese that chop trees on enemy island and take all they can from enemy resources, only to then go to late game, drag it to when there are no resources on map and win you over with fetoiras lol :) Just bunker up and survive till only you can have any res :)
Hot take, but I actually prefer the big trees. Maybe it's not the best for playing the game but it looks far better.
I used to think that too but after finally switching to small trees it's just feels a lot cleaner to me I could never go back. Also makes placing lumber camps infinitely easier
@@JacobArvizu that's a fair point
They also have a lot more wood! 😉
There are forums and other pages out there in the Internet that actually give the advice of mining away from the base in the early game. I can relate to this strategy so much, since I did the same for a looooong time 🥴
ace seriously a freakin god among legends dude holy crap
100% the micro on his split with his army make Red scared and thought game would go on way too long.
Ace won fair and square, he wore out & frustrated his opponent. Most wars aren't won by annihilation, but by taking away the opponent's will to fight. Legit win. GG.
The pond at 0:25 looks like a fish
Didnt expect that ending....
it's like forcing stax/mill in card games that don't really have mill
I really like doing it anyways, for the moment when the opponent shifts from a victory oriented playstyle to having to take inventory of the remaining ressources
it's a controversial playstyle but usually you're the underdog so w/e
How about a big tournament between all the “The Legend Of ____” players?
I use ACE's strategy on some maps, when I want to clear out and turtle up. It works with the unrated games I play with friends to a good extent.
New series needs to be called Ace of Empires
Taking the other players resources honestly seems kind of effective at tilting them. :P
I imagine it would have diminishing returns at higher ELO's.
I watch every video of ur. I actually eat dinner to your videos almost every day xD
Doe's anyone have the video of the 2v5 where they go against Ace?
Every game with Bohemians, T90 says "He's getting Fervor for the monks", does he really not know that it makes the villagesrs faster?
It doesn't
@@depressedespresso3928 It does, though? Here is Spirit Of the Law going into it in an overview: th-cam.com/video/u52iSYpqa6s/w-d-xo.html .
Does anyone know if the game for the 2v5 mentioned at 2:30 got cast or uploaded? Went looking but i couldn't find it.
This man puts the ham in champion.
I think I figured it out. Ace is actually a Dragon playing AOE2 and is compelled to hoard as much gold and stone as possible.
Interesting to hear the thoughts on HC changes as they happened. I think a year later HC are very viable and much more common
Really enjoy how you shut down negativity in chat.
What would one go vs mass hand cannons? Either arb or skirms can work? The siege seemed to get wrecked quite quickly
I wonder if going mass fast hand cannoners with pike meat shield and then some fast bombard cannons instead of trebs would be a good tactic in general.
Too slow to build up at even little higher levels and no chance against archer civs
So wholesome with Spec-chat finally 11
This guy is brazen. I LOVE it.
Around 3:00 "I upload every day" well thats news to me. Where are those every day uploads I wonder 🤔
Im sure that there is a big difference in player level between different servers, im sure that in the Brasil server this game is more like 650 elo
In theory resource denial is a legit tactic, but it takes so long to get to the point where it matters. Ace should go one step further and try to wall in the opponents starting resources
I like that Ace won fair and square
Huge fan of the big trees
Make the next video on Ace "The Legend of Ace FOREVER!" for the pun.
Ace is clearly a Middle Earth's dwarf, mesmerized by gold and stone. He should change his name to Thorin, son of Thror, son of Thrain, king under the mountain.
1 video a day is not that much... Like I'm pretty sure most people watch more than 1 video a day, so making one of those many videos be one of yours is not that crazy at all. It's actually super easy. I wouldn't even consider myself a dedicated fan and I still manage it, so I'm sure the really dedicated people can also do it no problem.
It's a bit different when those videos are 15-20 minutes at their shortest and very often 40 minutes to 3+ hours long throughout the history of his channel. The only reason I don't have trouble believing there are people keeping up with all of his uploads is that he doesn't actually upload a video every day.
Ace is the luckiest dude ever
Great strat from ACE "Lets bore them to death" 😎
Red got tired😂😂
I have a theory that the logic for Ace is that if the villager collects more than 50 gold it is a win
Dart had him basically beaten and he just gave up... Jeez. :DD
Ace's goal is to exhaust the opponent.
3:10 who else watches every single t90 video?
lol Red clearly hasn't played a 3 hour Team arena game
What a legend.
Are you sure ace isn't higher ELO? He could be just fooling around or maybe he chills and plays while drunk or something?
I play a different game ranked while high with my friends. It often devolves into who has the better Smurf or whose teams Smurf makes the most effort
there is also classes and different characters to choose from so if i want to chill with low skill low effort character i won't be able to carry at all 🙃
What's your elo?