You'll be SHOCKED to See What HAPPENED When we Hauled Out! Ep 62
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2019
- Who needs a boat lift when you have a tractor, backhoe and trailer?! Our boat has been anchored in Luperon, Dominican Republic for 7 months. The final step before sailing further South is to haul out for a fresh bottom job.
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Joel and Michal, before you get discouraged by the negative comments remember... you’ve traveled to more places just in the last winter than any of these negative commenters will travel in their entire lives. You’ve sailed by dolphins, you’ve swam with sting ray, you’ve motorcycled through rain forest, you’ve slept on a beach under the stars, you’ve traveled over 1200 miles by sailboat for god sakes! The reason for sharing this via TH-cam was to inspire others to chase their dreams! And I’ve seen and heard several people who have done just that thanks to you guys and your commitment to delivering content.
It’s sad, but the only thing these negative comment people hate more than your content is their own lives. Don’t take what they say personally, they are only treating you the way they treat themselves...
David Angel thank you. To be honest there are a lot of positive and useful comments as well. We just focus on those ones and don't even pay attention to the negative ones. Sometimes we get a good laugh but no sweat. As you know it won't change what we do or believe in.
Nice to see you back at it! And I just love the old lady at the end, "These are the tales of Boab!" Awesome!
Boating on a budget, you tend use what you have. Most boats have issues! Thank for sharing. Love it.
Just stumbled on this Chanel and love the content! Watching back shows and it’s so entertaining seeing how it all started and wow how far you have come!
Great to hear! Its been a wild ride. Steep learning curve in filming, editing and sailing. Admittedly we still have a long way to go in quality but capturing the story from day one of buying the boat is what adds value.
Bums we made it to florida my brother got a 25 foot irwin 10 4 we gotta re paint the bottom but god hasent let us down keeps blessing us you guys keep inspiring 👏
Amazing! Congratulations to you and your brother. Looks like we will be spending our foreseeable time in a similar fashion. Cheers!!!
i’ve sailed. i’ve loved. here all i see 2 ppl who love each other and love sailing...and that's all that matters
Wish y’all the best. Love seeing young folks living there dreams. God gave us a beautiful earth to experience and explore!
Parley Revival cat recently arrived there for a mast base repair. You may see them. A great bunch of wanderers. Captain is Colin from NZ.
Wow! We have not seen them yet. It would be great to meet them.
What a wicked web we weave to keep our boat in the sleeve and not on the cuff , cool video be safe out there Reef Runner out
A wicked web indeed! Great saying.
I love Boats , lived on the water for 10 years ! But maintanence is the total bummer of the life style , aside of storms and cyclones :) But those glassy full moon nights , and magical sunrises and sun sets make it all worth while :)
Peace from Australia !
All the best , always stressful getting her out of the water. Looks like a great adventure.
As there is prior evidence of keel repairs I would suggest to contact the previous owner and ask what was done and why. Also, check with the user forums to find out if half of the keel is supposed to be hollow. Checking keel bolts is a must. If you intend to drop the rudder look at your vertical clearance and see if you have to dig before starting. DEET is your friend.
We haven't been in touch since purchasing the boat but it would be nice to get a hold of him. Definitely will check the keel bolts and are bathing in the DEET!
Several folk have exposed their true nature in the comments. If what they say is not constructive, it is then only criticism. You are courageous and on an adventure. Love one another and be happy. God bless you on this journey!
Very true Torvig and it comes with the territory. Thanks for sharing your positive thought and encouraging words. The greatest thinkers, musicians etc. all have those who criticize. There appears to be no way to avoid it. Jesus was crucified for performing miracles and teaching others.
Torvig Johnson Please
a few more days and the bottom of your boat would have been declared a Marine Sanctuary.
Lol yea it looked pretty bad. And we had it scraped clean only one month earlier.
Your doing something I’ve always wished I could have done. Have fun
Tractor tyres have little grip in reverse!
so glad I have a trailer sailer
Glad to fill that void
Awesome video, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching.
Hello I'm one of your new viewers. I see you have a lot of barnacles on the bottom of that boat that should make for some good exercise scraping it all down anyways I enjoy watching your videos hopefully I'll get me a boat one day before I'm too old to learn to sail so I can enjoy the ocean more I love the mountains too but I love the ocean a lot one day I will be out there anyways get that keel repaired so you can continue sailing. You all be safe out there and God bless you watching from Roseville California USA Ray Garrett
Many lead keel boats have lead only on the leading edge, with a faring making up most of the keel, behind the lead. The faring should not be hollow but filled with closed cell foam. On my own Valiant-40, I found out, by drilling 1.75" holes in the faring, that they ran out of foam at the factory the day they made my keel. Now I am filling the voids with resin to gain the strength that part of the keel is supposed to have. I will have to watch and see what you do with your hollow.
Your barnacles have barnacles. Check your keel bolts. This is going to be a learning experience. My last boat I spent 2 years on the hard rebuilding her. Truly an enjoyable experience, a party everyday. Have fun Bums.
And we had it scraped one month ago! Okay, really hoping they still look good. Oh my, 2 years...we are only planing on 4 weeks max. A little nervous of what we may uncover. We may just have to party here uncle Muir style for 2 years.
@@Bumsonaboat Anywhere in between I reckon, nearer to 4 weeks than 2 years presumably, but guesswork by video ever was difficult from the beginning. 😂 As long as everything is stable and the keel doesn't wobble around under the boat (so nothing could work itself free in a chop) there's no need to get it done and dry completely this time - just sayin'. Only thing You should definitely avert is loosing the fin or the lead in rough conditions.
We are thinking of you two. No see 'em's are enough to drive a person crazy. Or at least drive 'em to drink 🍻 good luck on the projects. You two can do ANYTHING!
Great to know. The itches can drive you mad. Me thinks you two figured out the secret youtube algorithm formula with your latest vid! Thanks, we may have to turn to heavy drinking to get things done.
HI ASHLEY!!! .....Sorry bums : )
Haha!!! YOU triggered the algorithm! Nice job. Keep it up bro.
The damage to the keel on the haul-out will have to be repaired. Or it will come back to bite you hard.
Cheers
In South Carolina we would put Listerine (green regular stuff) into a spray bottle (not diluted) and spray our legs and arms. You smell good but more important the NoSeeUms and Skeeters leave you alone for hours. Nan (grandma) would spray damp towels with it and hang with a suspension type curtain rod in the middle of an open window at night. Kept them away and cooled the air coming in down.
Never seen a hollow keel before... I'd fill with concrete or mix of sand. Then glass over again and fair out.
Okay another new idea we will try out. Also learned dryer sheets can help from another commenter. Neither have we but others are telling us it is quite common. We just have to look into it. The learning just never ends!
I see blisters. Good luck with that! I hope you took care of them. Had the bottom of my Trawler blasted, peeled and remediated the blisters. Topped with a Barrier Coat and Trinidad. It’s a process, do it right and you’ll enjoy years of cruising.
Many sailboats did the empty keel trick!
The best way to deal with it is to open that area up! Dry it out! Close it up. Then fill it up with FG resin. It’s not really a structural repair. It just keeps water out!
Looking at the boat haul out; that water looks pretty turbid, I doubt goggles would have been much help. They must have been lining things up by feel! Remarkable
Hey guys! Really enjoying your videos! New subscriber. Can’t wait to catch up. ❤️from NC
My suggestion on the keel to avoid similar mishaps (and also from a grounding event) would be to remove the bottom 1 foot of what I would call the "Keel Fairing". That way, if you need to haul out in the future, one would never be able to load up the fairing the way it was this last time around. Also, if the keel was to be grounded, you would be unlikely to damage the weak fiberglass fairing in such a way that could cause a water leak into the hull..
7 months and you are just now undoing that mess
Newly sub'd, just because I like your vibe. Best of luck...old boats sure know how to drain a bank account! haha
Woo! Thanks for subscribing. Things are definitely spicing up. Should be some good episodes to follow. Exactly..
What we are recommended to do in the bush is get fir leaves (fir tree leaves) squish them and rub the oil on you, its supposed to stop the mosquitoes, dont know how good it works yet....ask them to move your boat to where there is wind? hope it works out for the best.
Okay, not sure where fir trees are here but we are just going nuts with the DEET. This whole marina is blocked from the wind but a little further West may be a bit better. At least further from the bugs!
@@Bumsonaboat thats not fair they should at least move you to a place further west then, just ask them. Or just get the bottom sanded quickly so you guys can get back in the water, or maybe camp over night in a tent? if it is safe from any criminals there. (take care of yourselves first, the boat comes second)
Lol, I subscribed after the comment about the glare.
Looks like a travel sized reef
God Bless!!! LOL......Happy New Year Guys...
Lol yea... Happy NEW Year John.
they use what they have, and its good enough. And the sure know how to run it well!
We were impressed with the crew.
@@Bumsonaboat When I once was in Troja/Turkey and an owner was in extremely high distress for his yacht was about to come out Luperon-style but with a winch instead of a tractor, the boss went over to him, gave him a healthy treat of Raki and said: "Don't worry, we do it that way on this place here for about 3000 years now ..."
@@manfredschmalbach9023 Ill have to look up what Raki is but I'm guessing a drink. Would love to see how thats done. Thats a long time, if its not broke I guess don't fix it.
Sorry for the criticism, you guys are enjoying your life . Just ignore them. Nice people don't do that.
Anyhoo, lively travels , tasting the world, still waking up with awe.
Cherio, and as always. Peace
Dude! I don't know how you handle that much hair!! Thanks for sharing!!
Yea...its getting a bit rediculas isn't it.
Not ridiculous, No. it's got to be a lot of work though.
It's been so long I can hardly compare it to short hair anymore.
Hair boat is in the air! swab and glass the keel till it drips off her bottom side smooth like a baby whales first swim! Next thing you know you'll have jacked your next crew and your heading east to oak island. What do a scurvy dog do with a hollow keel yea asks? Let old Patio fill yea in! You filler with booty til she be a yard arm under without mention on the manifest! The captains duty free keel deal! careful with him when he groggy he may tell you the tail of how eight out ten drown pirates are recovered with their junk about and flies down still maintaining a death grip on the bottle of false courage. Bananas are cursed as well Set your headings well clear of the yellow scourge beware the omens they bringith!
Sketchy lift out there guys . I would not have let them do that to my boat and would have moved on to a place with better equipment . I bet it would not have cost much more .
Spend some time and get that keel right , probably a good time to re-torque all the keel bolts and pull one if you can to check for crevice corrosion . Safety first always .
Yea it was a bit dicey but they managed. Many others in the harbor here say the same.
We intend to, wish us luck. Uncovering some things with this haul out.
@phdfxwg Fischercat LOL don't know why but envisioning this makes me laugh. Good times indeed.
Avon skin so soft. best thing for noseeums. Second if you set up an old stile Coleman lantern with the glass around the flame, they are attracted to the light and fry on the glass. this works for Mosquito's too. We have done a lot of camping in Fl, and AL. Good work on your videos. Be safe.
We need to find some Avon skin so soft. You and many others have recommended it. The lantern trick sounds effective as well. I think we actually have one that may do the trick. We know from experience that Fl can be brutal too. Thank you
Oh wow, in a few weeks I will be one island over from you, in Jamaica.
Very cool. We still have yet to visit Jamaica and have heard both great and not so great things about it. You never know who or what to believe until you see it for yourself. How long will you be there? Where are you choosing to visit in Jamaica?
@3:37 RESPECT to the GANJA shirt! 👊💨
How much did the haul out cost and the rate for the boat on the hard for a week?
We not going to hold them liable for the damage to the keel...that’s pretty unamerican
Cool video, new sub.
Why are you not using copper stands in your anchor lines?
Is there a paint with copper powder infused to prevent water barnacle ect.damage.
To keep you boat from sailing in circles at anchor put up a small 15 SQ ft.
sail ar the stern the boat will stay facing into the wind.
I've cleaned worse, messes off boats and yours ranks 3 out of 5.enjoy your adventures I will watch you go. I'm a catamaran bum, it is nice to see fellow sailor bums.
most fin keel designs are intended for slings not that kind equipment...what were you thinking?
Always nervous about have the boat pulled out... usually on a lift... I would love using the trailer approach rather then a lift. We just started a TH-cam channel and was wondering what you are shooting with?
Cool, just watched the trailer. Y'alls funny. We used only 2 GoPro Hero 4s for every video until recently. Just got a Sony AXS 53. We ran into Stephon from a big channel named Sailing Miss Lodestar and he said he loved the camera. So far we are really happy with it and the GoPros will still come in handy for the action/underwater/hands free footage.
Most keels are hollow in the aft area. Remember the lead in under the mast usually , so the keel needs even bearing surface not point load as done in the vid so sit on a plank evenly . Prop the boat as done and your ok , tap other keel t ascertain the lead area , drill a hole on the bottom of the hollow area , drain water for a few days , drill the odd hole just above the lead area and pour heaps of epoxy in flush off go sailing , some pump expanding foam in but you need a 2 inch hole in the right place , good luck
The learning never ends out here. We drilled a hole in the bottom yesterday and no water seemed to come out. Looks like we have our work cut out for us.
Bums on a Boat ok no water is it a fibre glass keel case or steel , glass is a foam fill exercise, maby a few cans of foam and a few inch holes in the case , if it’s steel glassed even better , if you look up the make of your boat there maby some forums on the keels being glass if it is it’s a easy fix you just have to fill the space tight ,fair off and go sailing You put all the boat weight over that area instead of spreading it , good luck
@@kz4506 It is fiber glass and they used stainless steel to fill the forward portion instead of lead which is more common. We will be reading any forums.
Bums on a Boat stainless steel has no ballast property’s , it’s not heavy enough send photos
@@kz4506 Its not what we can tell with our eyes but what we read when looking into the making of our 1974 Carter 33'
HOLY SMOKES !! That keel situation is going to be quite the job. What is inside the keel where it seems solid vs where it appears hollow ?
Yea you got that right. We have discovered that where it is solid is lead with no fiberglass over it.
Happened to friend. Barnacles built up to size of cantaloupes.
And this was after only one month. Shouldn't be as bad after a new bottom job.
``the savvy sailor use them for food ,the great harvest every 4 month``
The ballast has been put in the front half of the keel fin so the boat would float on its designed waterline, doesn't matter that its hollow in the back. Next time haul it in a cradle with a plank on the bottom to spread the load.
I know from experience how bad the noseeums can be. When I get bitten I itch like crazy and the bites just dont go away. I finally discovered great relief in anti histimine tablets. Creams, sprays etc. Are useless. If the bug bites torture you start taking antihistimes twice a day.
Whew I sure would like to see at least another set on stands forward under your boat but I guess y'all have it under control.
I see the multi-hull "Virgin Star" is your neighbor. I did all of the electrical on her. She was completed here in the states on the Chesapeake Bay & then went south to be in the charter fleet. Small world!
Thats what we thought but the boat yard seems to think it is secure and this is how all other mono hulls are held up here in the yard.
Wow thats amazing. Looks like the Virgin Star had a rough time. May have been Irma, not sure but she is tore up. Small world indeed.
@@Bumsonaboat the only reason the boat yard tells you that is because they are cheap and don't have any more stands. It is not the norm and if it falls over it will be your problem to repair. You are in the wrong boat yard. Just walk around and find two unused stand and commander them and put them lightly under your forward hull. Find a chain to attach between them so that they will not slide apart. I doubt they put chains on the rear ones. If you are going to live onboard, that boat is going to move a lot.
what do you think of epoxy paint with about 5% nano whould it work better as nothing could stick on it?
I do believe that could work. We will be researching all of our options and share our choices and results.
nice boat
The Flintstones working at Bedrock Marina
pretty much
Yeah, and good luck to them!
I haul a lot of those old shit cans , there s a hand full of makes that are hollow on the aft end of the keel , and as for putting you guys out in the back , that's where they put the boats that are going to make a mess or walk a way , good luck
Ohh the growth....
Oh my
If the rear of the keel is actually hollow drill a hole up as high as you can and pour high density foam in it to reinforce it. Add glass for reinforcement. This only works if it really is hollow. The foam is a two part mix.
The water in Luperon is absolutely polluted and dangerous. I can’t believe that local guy dived it like he did... hepatitis, anyone?
Yeah, it's called 'poverty'.
Just a few quick questions if you don't mind. No motor? Is that why you anchored up for 7months? And why three anchors? Done two in narrow space but three? Cuz of the Anchorage? I would love to hear your answers!
Travis Dehning we have a motor. We left the boat here for hurricane season and have been working on the boat since returning. The third anchor was more of an after thought. We had to anchor in a way that would allow us to swing similar to a mooring ball because it is a tight anchorage here.
@@Bumsonaboat Ah looked and sounded like you were stuck at anchor for 7 months. I incorrectly assumed you were waiting for some passive income to make much needed repairs.
In the future, might a mooring swivel help with the twisting problem?
We've never used one before but it sounds like it would help.
@@Bumsonaboat It would
We never use swivels. It’s just another breaking point on your mooring. They twist up due sitting on the mooring to long and going around and around. Take the boat of the mooring every couple of weeks and and let the mooring relax and when u put the boat back on the mooring put a good strain on it to take the rest of the kinks out of it. We have had many boats break free from there mooring and the swivel was what failed. I’m talking large boats 40 to 80 Footer’s. Up north here we use straight chain to a ball then rope pennant from ball to boat. Double the pennant in the winter during storms. Good luck and nice video
@@atlanticocean640 thanks for sharing. We wouldn't know as we have always just anchored the boat. Twice the boat was left unattended for 5 months with the Bohemian mooring style anchor system. Not so sure about implementing a swivel after hearing your experiences.
@@atlanticocean640 Yeah, I used to use a rope primary and a chain secondary pennant. I had the chain pennant longer than the rope so it would only come into play if the rope chafed off. Feed the chain through some clear plastic hose for a few feet near the bow to prevent chafing. And of course, a thimble on the rope pennant where it connect at the ball.
8:00 bow underside was done with some kind of a layer whatsoever, too, previously. You see it in the tangential sunlight. Bummer with the mozzie-infested high'n dry place You got ... but might actually be an incentive to work faster 😂 Will be interesting what comes out under the barnacle farm with further inspection. Hope You get it sorted without inordinate damage to the cruizing budget. Cheers 🍻
Yea there seems to be a black barrier coat over bare fiberglass and no gell coat below the water line. We are sanding our butts off now and definitely have an incentive to work faster. That is our hope as well. Cheers
@manfred schmalbach wow, good eyes, I went back to see what you're talking about. This boat is mystery, so old and no way to know what she's been through. Took care of us through a gnarly squall though, we'll take care of her.
@@creativefreedomplan We used tangential light to improve the quality of our laminating work in terms of osmosis treatments when I still did this kind of work in boatbuilding. It's a sort of vocational illness to automaticly look at each'n any boat under this aspect of "where did someone else some work already, why did they do this type of work, did they do it sufficently in my perspective, and what might they have left behind ... which might fall down in my back if I should accept this assignment?
Searching for the original problem was about two thirds of the assessment before assigning any new project, and the last third looking into previous work done and previous bodging we had somehow to integrate without depreceating the own work we were about to put in.
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I can, not being there with You, just stress once more how it is crucial to assess the cracked keelson to port (I went back, too, to see what might be on THERE, and which side it was ... 👀), and, if anyhow possible, to get rid of the wet stinky "vinegar" spots by grinding out the delamination, drying the surroundings and reglassing it properly before barrier-coating it again. "Properly" here would be starting with a little patch, down in the bottom of the hole You ground in, and successively putting on slightly greater patches to ensure each patch has binding contact all around its edge to the surrounding laminate already existing. (hope I did describe this understandably - one of the most often made mistakes in local osmosis repair is starting with one big patch and thus having only this one structurally carrying 100 % of the load, degrading the rest of the glass to mere fill-in bondo only.) Cheers! 🍻
@@manfredschmalbach9023 thanks for that insight and advice!! Our blisters don't appear to be too severe, but we will for sure be repairing them in the way you suggest - gradually increasing layers of fiberglass and epoxy to fill the void with load bearing substance.
As for the cracked grid... Are we correct to assume the whole thing needs to be rebuilt and replaced, with something solid (wood, layered plywood?) covered in fiberglass? Though its cracking, the grid seems to be well adhered to the hull of the boat, we want to be sure that we could improve upon it not make it worse before we decide to really go for it..
Thoughts? Aware that this is a crazy projects, probably not best left to DIYers however, in rural Dominican republic we have few options.
That'll be an easy repair to the keel, you just have to dry it out, rebuild where necessary and slap on a half gallon of epoxy and glass. Be happy that you found it now and not later when the keel drops off.
This is the direction we seem to be heading at the moment.
Mister Professor ..... its a polyester boat.... use polyester resins and you will be fine. It is far cheeper and so a heavy duty repair that will last the life of the boat can be done for way less dollars.
Encapsulated keels are generally half foam-cored.
After sanding off the paint we found the forward part to be solid metal with no fiberglass encapsulating it. Drilling into the back portion it seems to be hollow.
Putting fibreglass over that water soaked keel is not a good idea unless your planning on getting rid of it soon. It's throwing good money after bad, a waste of your hard earned money. Cheers !
@@aliceshaw8265 cry harder
Check the owners web site / forums for tips on what is the proper fix for that keel. Someone else has had the same issue on your make of boat no doubt. Hollow in such a big area and down deep seems strange to me . While the bilge of a boat is often hollow and then the keel is bolted on to that it is odd to have the keel hollow at the bottom as if it is filled with air then it would try to float , the opposite of what you want a keel to do . If it is not ballast down that low it would normally be filled anyway . Tanks while common are not usually down that far , or made of glass.
What you may have is a cast iron keel encased in fiberglass so it does not rust and you may have some delamination going on , likely caused by minor water intrusion . Find out from the owners forums of your make of boat what you have and what is the fix . Looks to me to be labor intensive fix but not big dollars .
Do not put it back in the water until you are sure it is right . Loosing the keel at sea will kill you .
My best guess is that the forward 1/2 of the keel is all that's needed for the purpose of proper weighting and the aft section is merely for keel hydrodynamics...but I'm not a boat designer or builder so it's just an educated guess. :)
@@imabeliever244 While I agree that the back of the keel may be dummy just be for lift it is odd to be hollow . Real odd as it is not an area where one would want buoyancy and or water to intrude and accumulate . I suspect a repair and or potentially delamination from an iron keel
Again , owners forum is the place to go and someone will either tell them exactly what they have got and how to fix it as a known issue or they have a repair and they will be told how it is supposed to be . It could be that the bottom 2-3 inches of the keel were lost to a bad grounding and it was glassed in . That would also explain the broken stringers at the keel .
Anyway you slice it they need to find out what is going on and repair it right before she see's water again .
@faircompetition1 It would appear that I was right about the aft portion of the keel being strictly for hydrodynamics. Again, I'm not a boat builder but I do have degrees in both Architecture and Engineering so it was indeed just an educated guess (plus, I'm on my 4th boat, learning as I go). The second-most recent video provides explanation they gained from a Carter owner's forum on fb. Genius! haha
@@imabeliever244 Yep , it is factory - still find it odd to be hollow and not filed as it is just asking for water intrusion and would add buoyancy where none is wanted . I wonder if it jest sounds hollow compared to the keel ?
My next "guess" is that the extra buoyancy was compensated for when calculating the necessary keel weight, to end up with a net zero buoyancy from the hollow portion. At least, if I was designing it, that is what I would do. Eliminating drag would be important when designing a vessel that might have racing as a secondary use, and the eddy that would be created behind a flat trailing edge on the keel would certainly create drag.
Try and find the builder of your boat if possible,I’m guessing the keel was extended hence being hollow at the rear.She probably had too much Leeward motion when sailing hard on the nose so they lengthened the keel to alleviate this issue,just my thoughts but this is how it’s done.Also if this is a production boat their should be drawings on it with dimensions,also keels are never hollow the are usually filled with ballast of some type,lead,steel ingots,concrete or the like.
Measure up your underside and mark it on the topside,rope tabs on the safety rail, for when you got up on a lift again next year and measure the depth of the keel properly and write thatnext to the plotter and sounder,just a thought.Subbed and hoped you have fun,don’t let it kill the joy.
Good idea, we have the diagrams and will do some measuring. From the look of it this was the original design.
catching up on older videos we missed
Damages was NOT due to hauling the boat but from the keel being soaked by osmosis… This takes huge work : removing the damaged part and building another keel … Fiberglassing on soaked parts will only aggravate the problem.
Most likely the part that doesn't sound hollow doesn't mean it's in good shape : it may only mean ballast is under. You don't wanna loose ballast when at sea !…
The boat has to dry at least for 3 to 6 months : the entire hull must be checked…
Good luck.
Pressure wash makes easier?
Would not be surprised if they took horses to pull that boat out of the water. You are most definitely leaving the comfort zone for mosquitos, noseeums and who knows what will happen near that mangroves. I shall pray for you not having serious health issues. But this seems to be ad aspera ad Astra or as we say in Germany : nur die Harten kommen in den Garten! So if that doesn't kill you and accomplish your sophisticated boat maintenance chores... you hopefully will sail away to new eastern locations. Being a patron and Looking into your budget is really worth it. Can recommend that for sure. Especially if one has own sailing plans and really want to see where the money goes. Some details one might encounter are hilarious facts and will put some smiles into your faces. By the way... This was a very nice video!
We keep hearing that this place has come very far in the last 5 years. Its hard to imagine. Im sure they could manage to use horses if that was all they had. Oh you got that right. Last night was the most uncomfortable nights sleep we can remember. Not only the bugs but mainly all the particles that embedded in our skin from sanding all day. We will be geared up today. Nur die Harten common in den Garten!
@@Bumsonaboat i see people sanding boats with a painter's suit, headsock and gloves, i guess you know exactly the answer now why people are using that gear. had similar experiences as a little boy helping my father with rock wool not wearing any, you could shower 5 times and the skin problem would not go away. Btw...."Nur die Harten kommen in den Garten" comes with a second part, "ich bin härter, ich bin Gärtner". cannot translate that with making sense but it means something like "„When the going gets tough, the tough get going“.
No they use Cattle :) th-cam.com/video/pPDZUtVMGsY/w-d-xo.html
What year is the sail boat and size! Have fun
It is a 1974 Carter 33'
dang, don't like that thingy they used to bring out the boat! did they damage that keel?
is that where boats go to die?
The keel may have added on to in an attempt to move the center of lateral resistance aft. The balance may have been off.
How did you not know that you have a keel sump?
That void keel should have been repaired.
It will fill with water and cause damage!!!
If you moved flexed or crushed the fiberglass keel it will be delaminated and will need to be repaired
It appears that where it flexed is hollow so there was nothing to delaminate from.
@@Bumsonaboat time for the popcorn.... this is gonna get interesting ! 🤔🤔
@@BruceInFlorida UH....Yea. Enjoy the show.
Wow man
It looks like they placed the aft lifting pads too high up above the water line and my have put a dent in the fiberglass...or is it my bad eyes?
Good luck bum!
I don't believe there was any dent in the fiberglass but tomorrow we will be double checking.
@@Bumsonaboat It looked more like a dimple, you may want to watch it next time....Good luck guys great job!
those old glass sailboats were designed to haul on a cradle or straps , generally there is no bulkhead , aft were the back pads are on a hyd trailer
Found this on:
www.boatdesign.net/threads/carter-33-adding-ballast-to-the-keel.49233/
"Adding ballast (on a Carter 33) will add a significant load to the root of thew keel which in that design is a weak point due to lack of a large enough radius.
Some 33s have been reinforced at the keel root and many have cracks along the radius of the keel root. More ballast especially at the bottom of the keel without the reinforcement isn't a good idea."
You guys could have been on Dirty Jobs!
Looks like we will still have other opportunities.
Is this dude in the band. Foo fighters
What size boat you got ?
A 1974 Carter 33'
Hey what's up guys I live in Miami on a sailboat I take my boat to Fort Lauderdale once a year to dry dock it cost me about $2,000 I know in other countries is a lot cheaper today boats are not cheap
Well done for perseverance, most would've just cut the ropes away. Great vid Johnny wants your hair...
Thanks, we were determined to get our anchors back. Looks like you have a low maintenance situation.
ya good save on the ground tackle
Seems to be reusable!
Ole' Dude sounds like He's a little light on His feet.
There's hardly a keel tank in there? My boat has 2 tanks in her keel. but she's steel
We still have some investigating to do. A few days ago we drilled a hole in the bottom to drain any water but none came out. We want to finish sanding before figuring out the keel situation. Get the toughest job out of the way.
A lot of boats have voids in their keels; it is a function of how a boat is manufactured and is completely normal. When a boat is manufactured, the keel is created as a void when the hull is laid up in the mold. The keel ballast is then forged and dropped into the keel void and it is never a perfect fit. Of course you cannot pour molten metal into a fiberglass void because the fiberglass would melt away so that's why it is done that way. The other reason you might have a void in a keel is that the ballast that is required for a given hull design might be relatively small compared the hull and keel shape below the waterline.Therefore, the design might call for a void, because if you totally filled a larger keel with ballast, it might be too heavy and would create an unbalanced hull and keel set up. Modern racing and racer/cruiser boats have bolt-on keels which are a little different and are less likely to have voids, but your boat would not fit into this category. @@Bumsonaboat
@@jamestaylor3075 Thank you for sharing. This makes a lot of sense. Having sailed her through sustained 25 knot winds as well as being caught in micro bursts with much higher winds I feel that the boat is balanced well. When we look at the boat diagram the keel to hull ratio looks the same as our boat out of the water. However there is no fiberglass over the ballasted part of the keel and it was bonded to the hollow fiberglass part.
@@Bumsonaboat
Hey guys, so what you describe as-ballast not fiberglassed over-would indicate that you have a bolt-on keel as opposed to an encapsulated keel where the ballast is dropped into a preformed keel void and then sealed into place with fiberglass. These are the two types of keel construction, bolt-on and encapsulated. Your description of the keel is very similar to the boat "Sailing Uma" has. They have two videos that go into specific detail about some important maintenance issues related to this type of keel. I would highly recommend that you check them out. The first is video [step 11]. Scroll to 7:30 for the keel segment. You may also want to check out video [sep 137] where they pull their boat out of the water after almost three years and critique their previous keel repair and make improvements on it. Scroll to 2:00 for that segment. If you have further questions about issues that you run into while working on the bottom, it might be worthwhile to message "Sailing Uma" since they have been through it before and since you both have similar boats (vintage bolt-on, fin keeled, racer/cruisers). I hope this is helpful to you and good luck. You're in for some real grunt work. :-)
@@jamestaylor3075 This is great. Sailing Uma was the main channel that kept us inspired during the beginning stages. Recently we have been going through some of their older steps but missed the steps you are referring to. We will definitely be checking them out. Love those two. They are the real deal. Would be a bit intimidated to message them but maybe..maybe. We are coming to terms with the grunt work future ahead of us. Thanks again.
i lifted many boats out never have i seen a fiber glass hollow keel, they all been steel and filled with concret, after all that is you weight to keep you from flopping over on your side in high wind and fast speed turn, i have even welded on thse keels replating them, with 3/4" plate after cutting out the rusted out parts, maybe these holow fiber glass keels are fine on the open seas but here on the great lakes the waves come up fast and next thing you know your in 18 foot high waves and dropping strait down into the bottom and back up the next wave and over again and again, not something i would want a hollow fiber glass keel on
We have been hit by our share of high winds and she has managed to not flop over although we have been heeled over to the point of sails in the water. Never been hit by 18 foot high waves though! Its serious stuff on the great lakes huh:0
Um...most sailboat keels on cruisers have a hollow part, normally at the end of the keel to fair it and get the proper NACA foil profile. Pearsons had them. The easiest way to find it is the hollow sound that the yard worker did. Yours sounds dry too. Have fun!
@@Bumsonaboat like i said the waves out at sea are miles wide, unlike the very sharp waves on the great lakes
@@john5321 as we do more research we are finding what you say to be true. Also we drilled holes to see if water came out and it does appear to be dry...few!!! One less thing to deal with.
@@arnoldromppai5395 ah yes. Closer wave lengths makes for a rougher ride. We experienced some of that in the shallow Tampa Bay.
Pirates of the Caribbean is now CASTING????
Move over Johnny D...this kid's GOT your spot!
Makes note not to park boat in Luperon for a long time.
Okay, care to share why?
I'm guessing right? It's because there's an abundance of "organic" material in the water of that harbor. So, you can plant your boat there, but, it might stay planted!!
@@Bumsonaboat just the build up on the boat...wow!
@@zxggwrt Agreed, if we had to leave the boat here again we would pay to have it scraped regularly. Also it would be worth it to pay for a mooring ball.
@@stimpsonjcat67 yea...You should have seen it after 5 months. I jumped in and scraped half before deciding to call it and pay to have the rest scraped.
Could have stocked a Cantonese clamm shack for a month
Prince is still alive
Hey guys. Get Avon Skin So Solf for the No See Ums. Great for your skin and it work's. Thanks for your video's.
Still haven't found any down here in the D.R. Hope to find some. Thanks for watching.
@@Bumsonaboat The last time that I bought it was in St. John USVI. I have lived in Old San Juan PR SINCE 2006 but I haven't looked for it. I started using it in the 80's in the Florida Keys. I hope that youcan find some. Take care and thanks for your videos guy's.
You tell us to check out bums budget for the cost of the haul out, but it is pass word protected....?
Sorry we just made some changes to the site and forgot to add the note to become a Patron in order to get the password. A $5.00 pledge per full length episode which can be limited to one per month is what we believe the information to be worth. We will make the needed changes to the website. Here is the link to our Patreon page www.patreon.com/bumsonaboat