Laserdisc | Still awesome!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- Laserdisc really took off in the late 80s and early 90s. Superseded by DVD around 1997, Laserdisc died a few years later. Seemingly. To fans of the format it never really died and Laserdiscs are still spinning strong!
The Danish video store where I bought my first player is still going strong. Check it out here:
laserdisken.dk/
00:00 Intro - How I got interested in Laserdisc
01:29 Widescreen - Letterboxing
02:16 Audio - Surround, Dolby Digital, DTS
03:50 Extra material - Bonus features
04:22 Japanese releases
04:40 What should you watch them on? CRT of course.
04:54 Collecting Laserdisc today
05:27 Conclusions
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Just like LPs, the sleeve/jacket/booklet artwork is unbeatable.
I got a Laserdisc player in 2020, and have been collecting. Love watching movies with it
Cool.
Cooll! I just bought one some weeks ago and stsrted to collected some great movies.
Where did you find your player? Hard in the UK
That Dolby AC3 trailer surely brings back memories. The disc prizes in early 90s was ridiculous, which included a hefty amount of fees to import them here to Finland too. I also regret selling my collection. I had Star Wars sp.ed. trilogy box (the dvd version was further altered) and ofc the Definite collection. The E.T. collectors ed. included a book and a golden soundtrack cd. Plus, it had dozens of outtakes/del.scenes that are not released in later dvd, blu and uhd releases.
I remember I paid 1500NOK for "Close encounters of the third kind" which was totally bonkers in hindsight. That said, some titles cost way more than that now.
I remember the first time I saw a Laserdisc movie - It was in an electronics store I think in the late 80s or early 90s, I was a child. I don't know which movie it was but it had something like gorillas running and chasing with loud sudden music, it was scary. The store employee opened the drawer and showed the dual-sided shiny disc, it was quite mesmerizing.
Nice! Must have been awesome for a child at the time.
@@5minutesofretroHi Espen - any way to value laserdisc movies? Is there a site like Discogs Where you Can see if they are worth anything?
Best regards
Anders
@@andersfrend5365 Yeah sure, check out LaserDiscDataBase LDDB. www.lddb.com/index.php
@@5minutesofretroThank you very much - just inherited around 100 laserdiscs which I would like to sell incl a Marantz player 😊
@@andersfrend5365So, did you sell them?
It is amazing how many films or things such as some classic animation that were released on Laserdisc still dont have a modern update such as DVD, BRD or 4K.
True. Lots of titles unavailable on newer formats.
@@5minutesofretro however, film companies tend to dust off old film rolls and publish them in the new formats. Just google it. Then it may be that the film that is available on the British market is not available on the Swedish market. . But if it was a film that never sold well, there might be less interest in publishing it
DVD it probably counts as out of date today DVD came in the early 2000s. and they don't look so good on a modern flat screen TV. as the TV has to scale up the image. the resolution on DVD in Europe is 720 × 576 pixels. While the lowest resolution for HD television is 1280 × 720 progressive. although today Is probably 4K that applies in the TV shop. ie 3840 x 2160. The sound here is also improved such as Dolby TrueHD .DTS-HD master. DTSx. Dolby Atmos
cuz 12'' was too big
@@1sonyzzLaserdiscs were too big and that is why a lot of movies are not available on newer formats? Your comment makes no sense...
What a passionate and informative video, thank you! I was a kid when Laserdiscs were popular, but I always found them fascinating.
Many thanks! I just watched one this afternoon (it's afternoon here as I'm typing this.) I love it!
Yeah same I never got to own or watch any laser disc as a kid but was always fascinated by them my first PC had a DVD player in it which was a big thing so my time was the DVD era I also found it interesting you had to flip them halfway through the movie I'm in Australia and quite sure if they took off here I know my mates older brother always talked about them if I ever get the chance to own one I would definitely watch them for the fun of it
YES! Thank you! This is EXACTLY why I love laserdisc; probably the only format (aside from some early dvds) where the color grading and sound are exactly as they were in the theater! I have always felt that home theater should replicate the movie theater experience as closely as possible-I have never understood this penchant for trying to make 40 year old films look and sound like they were shot yesterday-
I'm with you on this. I really enjoy watching and listening to movies knowing I hear and see close to what the director intended and not some souped up version tailored to please the TikTok generation. ;-)
Except the color grading is the not the same. Sure, it has technically the same grading from the og master film, but the output is vastly different - both because the scan is differently from a projector, and because every single CRT (which was the format it was supposed to be played on) wasn't calibrated nor color accurate. In this terms, we still have the issue of any screen being different, but a Blu-Ray or 4K Blu-Ray actually is vastly more accurate on average than a laser disc by a shocking amount.
In regards to audio, DVD had different masters because theaters by the time DVDs started to be popular (March 2000, aka PS2 release) had way more speakers - today we peak at the average 44 speakers for IMAX formats, but for standard we are at 8 - or 12 for Atmos (minimum, of course, it wouldn't be unusual for 14 standard), the decibels standards are vastly different than at home (even enforced by law). It's not as easy as loading the master audio track on ProTools and lower it (which it was what they were doing with Laser Discs), you need a new mix that while different mimics the theatrical one.
Blu-Ray 4K is the format that brings the movie to its closest glory, sometime even improves it (point in case Bridge on River Kwai never looked better, or The Matrix never sounded better).
I'm sorry I had to point these things out, but the statements you guys are making are technically very, very, very wrong.
@@lukeripa You're correct-on average, the UHD Blu-ray master is the most accurate to the cinematic release. There are some cases, like Sleeping Beauty and Lady & The Tramp, where the Blu-ray version is actually superior to anything that would or could have been shown in cinemas at the time (2.55:1 aspect ratio).
This may be a premature take, but UHD Blu-ray will probably be the last, and greatest, physical format for cinephiles. Sure, 8K and 12-bit colour are within spec, but that's only really beneficial for a minority of features (anything shot in 65mm or 70mm). For 35mm content, UHD Blu-ray is pretty much it.
@@5minutesofretro if it was catered to the tiktok generation it would come in 1000's of short segments and be cropped to portrait aspect ratio ;)
🤷🏻♂️ Titanic laserdisc color gradings and image exposition looked awful.
This video bring back lots of memories
People today don’t know how lucky we have it today. If you see a movie in the theater you love, you can purchase that on 4k UHD in about 4-6 months. Didn’t use to be that way. Jurassic Park came out in theaters in June of ‘93, it wasn’t on VHS and Laserdisc until October of ‘94. The LD of JP was $40. In todays money that’s $100. I remember thumbing through a magazine in the mid nineties and saw an order form for the Criterion LD of John Carpenter’s classic, Halloween. It was $120!
Still have my very old Pioneer LD-X1 LD player and around 30 LD’s. The DTS discs are amazing!
It was very expensive. Remember it all too well. ;-)
@@5minutesofretro I remember the first time I saw a laserdisc movie for sale in the 1980s. The movies cost around a $75- $100+ each which was really a lot of money back in the 1980s. I think the players were in the one or two thousand dollar range, which was out reach for my family. This format was for wealthier people.
Big movies also were in theatres for like a full year
The Fugitive on Laser disc was my introduction to home surround sound. My friends dad has set up a home theater with a big TV, laserdisc and surround system. When the train wreck hits it shook the room and I was SOLD hahaha. I still have my star wars laser discs but no player anymore.
Great disc that. I know a lot of guys with discs, but no player these days. :P
You are so right my dude. Sweet, sweet nostalgia. 💿
Wonderful presentation. Thanks Espen!
Many thanks!
This was a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing your beautiful collection.
Thanks!
Hello from L.A. (lower alabama:). My last tube or crt tv was a Panasonic 27 inch, the model that closely matched specs of the Trinitron. It had a great picture and the colors, brightness, contrast all popped. Those old heavy crt TVs had some advantages over current flat panel big screen panels. Particularly lack of image stutter/judder, burn-in. I never had a laser disc player but do remember DVDs looking great on my CRT screen.
Thanks for sharing! :)
I first got into laserdisc 2 years ago and still enjoying it today. Have many titles now.
Cool.
You have a lot of excellent laser disc titles, ... Sweet!
My uncle had one back in the 80's and my best memory was watching Tron - One of the best movies ever made!
Tron is awesome! Saw it in the cinemas when it was released.
Glad you used the flight of the navigator cover art in your video. Finally tracked down the 2nd release and both covers look so menacing. I’ve heard the LD seen in Norway is amazing so keep sharing more videos about LDs.
Thanks! LD has a strong foothold here and I have several videos in the pipeline showcasing some of my favorites, setups and reviews etc. Cheers
Great show and tell of laser discs, thank you
Cheers!
I too have a soft spot for Laserdisc. I remember the first time I saw the format it was in a Walker Scott store & there was a display of Laserdisc titles (DiscoVision as it was known at that time) & on the display it read something like..."Introducing TV you can play through your Stereo!" or something like that. Not really sure the format had the best promotion back then, but when I saw those shiny discs & some of the titles like "The Birds" "Psycho" "Earthquake" "Jaws" etc, I knew I had to have it. The rest is history.
Nothing beats the look of those big shiny discs. ;-)
Flight of the Navigator!!! Loved that film. Amazing soundtrack!
I sold my 600+ title laserdisc collection when my CLD-2950 stopped working. The alphaturn mechanism didnt work, so i had to manually switch sides and i am too lazy to do that, and it was no longer possible to get replacement parts here..
I regret it to this day, as the audio mixes were FAR superior to what we have today, for the most part.
True Lies audio track was especially good on laserdisc. And i always bought the DTS discs as they were usually even better than the AC3 ones. I had a full JBL HT 5.2 system back then,as well as a Sim2 CRT projector on a 123" Stewart screen with the laserdisc player going through a DVDo Iscan Pro scaler, and the image rivaled good DVDs and it was so much fun. I later found out you could upgrade the projector to 1080i but i had 10k hrs on the tubes, and replacing those would cost more than a new DLP projector,so i opted for a 1080p DLP instead when i upgraded my theater for full HD.
I also remember those laserdisc intros with very fond nostalgia.. And i do wish the studios would include the original theatrical mixes on bluray, but alas, they have even begun to save licensing on adding Dolby Atmos for physical media, which pisses me aff to no end as that was a major selling point in me upgrading my theater once again to a full 7.2.4..
Anyways, thank you for the fond trip down memory lane..
Thanks for sharing! I'm very happy that there are still belts and everything being made for laserdisc repairs and I have 2 players that are serviced by a very skilful tech that lives not far from here. Laserdiscs are so much fun and I love taking one out of the shelf, so much more fun than just streaming. The artwork, gatefold and size of the discs. Love it!
Yes the Audio mixes back in the day with the vocals cantered… I miss that..
Love the video. I share your passion.
Sweet!
Love it!
Amazing video, thank you!
Thanks!
We had the poor mans version of Laserdisc back in the 1980s , A CED Disc player. , movies were on large 2 sided discs , housed in a hard plastic sleeve... basically these were vinyl records, played with a stylus
If you check out my Poltergeist video you'll see the CED version. ;-)
I did, super incredible collection! of one of my fav movies! @@5minutesofretro
Very good video thank you, still using Laser Disc’s 😉👍
Cheers!
Excellent video. What memories. I still have my LDs especially those that aren't available on streaming or blu-rays.
Thanks!
for example?
@@alanrogs3990 Non-SE Star Wars, Abyss, True Lies, Golden Age of Looney Tunes uncensored, Song of the South Japanese edition to name a few
Thank you for sharing
Cheers!
Excellent video and yes, many happy memories also. Hello from Chelsea, London ✌🏼
Thanks! I miss London, been there many times. Bought a lot of movies (mostly DVD's) over the years there as well.
Nice to see other Laserdisc enthusiasts from Norway here, Nice and informative video :)
Moro! Mange takk! :) More videos to come.
@@5minutesofretro kult, sjekk gjerne ut kanalen min også,) er en del Laserdisc relaterte videoer der
Skal gjøre!
Wow. Those discs look beautiful.
I have been a laser disc fan since 1983. I have 2 Pioneer players ad 1 Panasonic player. Still love them! The audio is the best!
Awesome!
Nice to see, when somebody loves an old obsolete format.
Like your self, I collected laserdisc’s in the 90’s. Sold it then the DVD was released.
Regretted it like you did, so I also started to collect again. Bought a player 6 months ago, so I can watch my slowly growing collection
Awesome! Best of luck with the collecting. It's so much fun to pick up where I left off in the mid 90s.
Nice! Although not the same thing I've been collecting the Blu-ray and UHD big sleeve vinyl editions of films. I love the artwork and presence on the shelf of these editions 👍😎
There's something about that for sure. Cheers :)
I never had a laser disc, but this format would be great to collect. Enough place for a beautyfull cover.
my first contact with laserdisc was a public demo of AC/DC Live in Donington in 1994 and became immediately fan of the format, still watch them today, in fact, yesterday i watched PAL Tora Tora Tora , have about 300 titles.
great video mr kraft.great memories when i just to borrow laser disc movies from you.i remember spes Aliens special edition,i borrowed it many times.i never forget when you bought a 50 inch pioneer tv.And i loved Laser Disc.)
It was a fun time Mr.Lie. Pool, 9-ball and Yahoo. ;-) I remember the 50 inch yes. Today we would probably not be able to see anything on there ha-ha. You getting the Star Wars trilogy on Laserdisc if I remember correctly. Great times!
I loved my local laser disc store. It sold and rented the discs. When things moved to DVD, I didn't realize certain titles like the Godfather Saga and Star Wars trilogy would never see a release on DVD or Blu Ray. This gives us a reason to keep laser disc relevant today.
These titles were released on DVD
@@xrrrismickey and bluray
@@xrrrismickey And Blu-ray.
@xrrrismickey the Godfather tv edit in chronological order was never released on dvd.
The unaltered versions of the star wars trilogy were released as bonus features using the same 1993 master created for laserdisc, so some people still seek out star wars on laserdisc because the dvd's aren't remastered.
Also certain audio mixes of star wars and the 1997 re-release never got a dvd version.
Holy crap that dolby introduction takes me back reminds me how much i watched the matrix on dvd lol
Great video thanks for sharing, enjoy your set up, I also use only a CRT for LD now, a B&O MX4000.
Thanks! That's a sweet TV.
I still have my Pioneer LaserDisc player and all my movies and music discs.
Awesome!
Like your video. I still have my pioneer CLD-D406 laserdisc player and movies. and also have my RCA SELECTAVISION VIDEODISC PLAYER and movies. Thank you for the video 👍cool.
Awesome! Cheers!
I grew up watching many films on laserdisc. The first time I ever saw the original Star Wars trilogy was on laserdisc. I have found memories and still know exactly what part in films I had to get up and flip the laserdisc.
Important note: the image on laserdiscs is analogue. So you have a certain number of lines of resolution, but no limited number of pixels per line. More of a dynamic range that gives you quite a high resolving power. Of course the TVs had a certain resolution of phosphor dots, but sampling from laserdiscs can yield quite a high horizontal resolution.
My first device was vcr in the late '80s. Dvd player/recorder in 2000s. Now only stream.
Man that Japanese Flight of the Navigator looks awesome!
I love it!
Still have mine!
I admire your nerdiness. I also have a laser disk player and my disks. I have moved on to Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray’s. I still Also have my dvds. I continue to buy my favorite movies with each new big aniversary re release. I have my space 1999 seasons 1 and 2 on laser disk dvd and Blu-ray.
I too have Blu-Ray and 4K in my projector home cinema room. ;-) I enjoy that as well.
@@5minutesofretro I plan on getting a projector. I have a 65 inch lg oled in my bedroom. I sit 6 feet from it. 😀
Do it!
Still got many of mine plus a player for them.
I have about 30 laserdiscs. I was going to an Ernest Goes to Camp reunion in 2021 at the place where it was filmed (Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee) and they were gonna have three of the actors from the movie there to sign autographs. I was gonna take the DVD of the movie for them to sign but then I remembered I had the first four Ernest movies on laserdisc. I took my Ernest Goes to Camp laserdisc and the guy that played Counselor Stennis looked at it for a second and said "I never knew I was on laserdisc."
Cool story. Thanks for sharing!
I feel the same. I just need a CRT tv to enjoy them fully.
Laserdisc ...I remember them in the 80s as a kid..dvd of the 1980s..but VHS was a boom.
I just bought a LD from Singapore and brought it back to europe. Some LD's are rare, hard to find, and very randomly found nowadays. BUT, it is what you seek is worth the value of some movies I find.
Nice Set Up, Nice TV. The Best. Still have mind, and the last of the SONY TRINITRON XBR. Love the picture quality for the time. No gradients like you get on DVD. Wish they could be properly displayed on new tvs. At least the aspect ratio. Like Formated for Widescreen TV. Thanks. - Toronto, Canada.
Gradients is the worst part about DVDs yes. Cheers ;-)
I was so confused cause I had one of the first DVD Machines. I called up the manufacturer and asked them why they are claiming DVD is better when the picture quality doesn't match the laser disc. My example was the beginning of The Exorcist film and the bright sun. They told me it was because it was smaller in size, you didn't have to flip them, and came with multiple languages. But that I was correct that the laser disc picture is clearer than DVD. But then DVD started to get better with their compression and formatting for WideScreen TVs. I could go on...especially when earlier machines stop being able to play discs a year later, cause they needed firmware updates and their was no easy way for the consumer to get that done till eventually it level off and we started getting ethernet or wifi updates. Geez! :)
Got mine in 2018, a CLD-D606, and then a LaserActive in 2020.
Cool!
Laser Disc is pretty cool.Laser Disc had great picture & Sound back in the day.I like the Jackets that the Disc came in,although I don’t miss flipping a Disc over & the picture quality is better on Blu Ray although the Sound can be better sometimes on a Laser Disc.
Nothing’s perfect!
I have to admit I only clicked on your video to see if you were watching LaserDisc as it should be seen, which is on a CRT. And sure enough you're rocking a Sony Trinitron. Good man!
CRT is the "proper" way yes. ;-) I know some will disagree with us though :P
and they are - obviously - utterly wrong :P
My first laser disk was Monty Python and the Hoky Grail in my high school music class
With me laserdiscs became a major part of my film viewing experience and even though it's easier now with no changing discs or anything but I think I had the most fun when I was first got into laserdiscs I think the first disc I bought was Aliens special box set,after that I was hooked my first player was the pioneer cld 504 then got the d604
I too remember the Aliens Special Box set and the circumstances leading up to me getting it. A magical time and memories etched into my soul.
@@5minutesofretro yes, I remember seeing it in a glass case at my local vhs rental store.He was a cool store owner he setup a glass case to put just that laserdisc in it to see if it would sell and I bought it right then and there.He sold the store a year later 2 yrs later but he was able to order laserdiscs for me then store l I ke Laserland started opening and then I was in awe I could spend hours there and my gam I ly would watch movies in the back where they had a couch and great setup I remember my son and wife where watching The Fugitve 1993 and it was loud and thats when I hooked up my system great years and great times nothing like laserdisc the artwork the box sets the special edition Criterion collection discs wow I would say from 1991 to 1997 where the best years of movie watching at least at home anyway great times won't happen again no matter if we have 4k 8k or anything it'll never be as fresh and new as when laserdisc was here.
Cool story! I agree to the full about nothing else today can match what we felt back in the day. We're so jaded now. Nothing really impresses any more. ;-)
@5minutesofretro 100% right, it's impossible to be impressed by anything now,its like been there done that or this is too much now if they somehow start making 8k discs I think that will be pushing it too far there areninky a few movies that would benefit 8k maybe Avatar films and or films made with 4 and 8k lenses 8k will look like crap on a 4k or 1080p tv most cable and streaming services still mainly use 1080p and some still use 1080i which would look terrible on 8k tvs
One reason I love boutique labels so much is that they include the original mixes. I couldn't care less about a new 5.1 or 9.2.4 mix. Give me the original stereo and I'm good.
Exactly. Most of the time I listen in stereo as well. I've never been very interested in surround sound at all. I think it mostly interfere with what's on screen.
I fell in love with Laserdisc the first time I ever saw it I bought my first movie in 1993 it was Cliffhanger since then I've been replacing my collection I'm currently on my 5th time replacing of my entire collection on 4k Uhd Blu-ray.
An old friend of mine (before I moved city and later, country) was a big LD fan. He had a nice collection of discs, but if friends came over to watch, they always wanted to see the same film (The Abyss, if memory serves me well). So he got rather fed up of that one.
I know how he feels. I have a great vintage video game collection and all people want to play when they come over is Super Mario Brothers on NES.
3:39 TURN IT UP!
-Grandpa Simpson ;)
:P
Damn - I used to have this exact Laserdisc - Wish I wouldn't have given it away...
18 seconds in, and I see my All Time Favourite move displayed: Walt Disney's Fantasia!
I'll do a video about that later. I have different releases of it.
@@5minutesofretro I bought it straight away when it was released on VHS, but that got stolen at one point. I got it later on DVD, and still have it. If you make a video about Fantasia, I'll be sure to watch it!!!
LD, the best looking media ever made.
Yes
Cool
Some of the Criterion releases also have really good extras and sometimes you can find them really cheap (at least here where I live)
I really love to watch The Thing on LD, the scanlines give an awesome vibe
The only thing that bugs me on LD is needing to flip the disc in the middle of the movie, if it wasnt for it, it would be my favorite format
Lots of players will flip the side automatically. I have several that does this.
I've heard the term Laserdisc before but never really looked into it, I never knew how big they were and how great the covers look
I took interest in LaserDisc last year and got a player for Christmas. It's basic but works without any problem. I enjoy blu-ray, 4k but there's something charming about LD for sure. I also enjoy the jackets. Some movies I notice the color is different on later releases and prefer the LD for that too. I also have a few JP Laserdiscs. I enjoy it on my CRT TV but I also found it looks decent on my 4K TV. I don't use any noise reduction. I guess this tv has a good comb filter.
Cool man. I too enjoy other formats and I have a nice 4K projection setup where I play 2160 UHD discs. I do prefer laserdiscs though as they represent a time and magic that can never be surpassed. ;-)
Oh sure. I have the Criterion Laserdisc of Blade Runner which is the International Cut and was surprised how good it looks. @@5minutesofretro
I used to have a laserdisc player... but it broke, then someone threw it away on me. But i still do have a big stack of laserdiscs that i don't know what to do with. I actually want to give them away, as long as they're going to the right person, like someone who can use them.
I'm still buying discs people think i'm crazy. I got Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom and Last Crusade Hong Kong releases, and Temple of Doom Korean release. And i just got Star Wars The Definitive collection with the making of trilogy from Japan that was 200 dollars US. Huge box set, very impressive, got it for my birthday. I was smiling like a kid at Christmas getting something they always wanted. Its a set i wanted for twenty years.
I know exactly how you feel. ;-) I have the Definitive collection Japanese edition as well in my Star Wars collection.
I have had laserdisc for many years and the best way to watch is on a CRT projector if you have the room but i am getting a great picture on my Panasonic 65 inc LED LCD tv
Yes, a CRT projector is great. I was tempted to get a Barco, but decided I wanted to keep the same old TV I've always had. It just gives me the same feeling as I always had and that's in many ways the most important part. It's also great for retro gaming, where using a projector, of any kind, just sucks.
Nice stack of C&VG!
Cheers!
My favorite thing about laserdiscs is the theater Thx
hi-vision ld's were really something else back in the day
The NTSC of Event Horizon was my favourite laserdisc. The biggest and best sound I can recall. It blew everyone away and was much in demand. I believe only the NTSC disc could play Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS.
I believe there exist one PAL+ release with DTS sound.
@@5minutesofretro Thanks for the tip.
Freaky movie
I have a large collection as well and old games as well. Still like them on newer screens as I never understood the desire to see scan lines even in my retro games.
I plan to collect laserdisc again once I move from this house that I'm living at and into a new house. I had to sell all of my laserdisc back in 2013 just so I could have some money
Plenty of laserdiscs out there. :)
I have 4 players all pioneers and 300 or so discs..love the concerts not available on bluray..They look great on a 1080p Panasonic ptae8000.projector 150"....nice review
Cheers!
Love my LD collection. It’s been a bit of a challenge getting a modern digital Projector to match the same delicious picture quality of my old CRT projectors. But I guess the trade off is the convenience and lack of recalibrating twice a year. The Lumagen gets me close to where I need to be. But still not the same.
I have a 4K home cinema room downstairs and I could (if I wanted to) hook up a laserdisc player to that system, but to me that takes away the fun, nostalgia and sweetness of experiencing laserdiscs as I first gor to love them. On my Sony Trinitron. That's the kick I still get out of them and to me that's the only "proper" way of watching laserdiscs. ;-)
The last one i got was Star Trek Insurrection. I haven't got around to watching it yet. But it has full LPCM and AC3 tracks. The original theatrical mix which isn't on the 4K. I love my anime collection, James Bond. Star Wars. Its a great way to enjoy them. I have an old TV to watch them on they look terrible on my HDTV.
Always treasured my James Bond on LD too. ;-)
still have mine bought several Pioneer models for 25 dollars each at hamfest a few years back watch mine on 43 in flat screen some look as good a DVD's or better go figure
Cool. I envy you for having a properly working unit.
My Sony laserdisc (with a Pioneer OEM mechanism) broke down so I repaired it myself by transplanting components from another unit which worked well for a while, but soon it died the exact same way as the first time. They all seem to have design flaws.
I have 3 players. 2 that has been refurbished with new belts, greased up and some caps replaced. I have 1 player that's never been fixed up, but it still works great. I've had different players as well and not one of them has ever broken down so I can't say my experience is that they've had any design flaws at all. All Pioneers.
I've got a couple Sony players that had some problems.
The adhesive in the disc clamp tends to get sticky and glue the clamp and spindle shut -- but that can be fixed by carefully separating them and cleaning off the offending adhesive.
The main problem is bad caps. There is a PSU board and a main board with a ton of caps on it. Both may have issues, but on the main board, it tends to take some nearby traces and vias out. That can be a real bear to troubleshoot.
One other unit fried the tilt motor by running at full rail voltage because the ground plane had cracked completely through. Those old phenolic boards aren't very durable, and if the unit gets jostled too much in shipping, it'll stress the PCB and crack anywhere it's held tight by mounting screws.
Aside from that, the Sony players are pretty reliable. Which may sound like "except for all their many flaws, they're great!" -- but really, those are "vintage electronics" problems more than Sony problems.
I have another player sold by Kenwood that looks to be a Panasonic design, but it's very similar to Pioneer's way of doing things. It had some mechanical issues that I've mostly fixed. Now I just have to repair the front lid so it won't fall off when opening the tray. :-P
These things aren't guaranteed to be maintenance-free, but if you're willing to get in there and potentially make things worse before making them better, they can be brought back from the dead.
I believe the main problem is the mirrors coming loose and out af alignment
4K UHD WITH DOLBY ATMOS IS MY NEW FAVOURITE
It's a lot of fun.
Happily, I ditched ALL my LDs in 1997 the instant DVDs arrived, so they were still worth something. I still keep one to remind me of all the money I pissed away on them. They're the only consumer electronics purchase I've ever regretted. Fortunately my Sony UHD player does a decent enough job upscaling my DVDs so I don't feel terrible about the $$ I spent on those. I replaced MANY of those titles with Blu-rays-I won't be doing that with UHD.
We never got into laser disk .... i remember them but we never bought into them.
My collection is rather small (ca 60 titles, most of them PAL releases) but thankfully i have most of the Laserdisc releases i always wanted. And this release of "007 License to Kill" was even my start into collecting them, when i found that one on a fleamarket back in 2014 or so :) Yeah i too mostly collect them for their original Mixes (sadly often ONLY far field mixes, no near-field mixes) and the original Color grading because i HATE that Color revisionism of the recent years in the age of Blu-ray and UHD that come from big Studios. But it seems at least in the UHD segment things are starting to get better. The UHD releases of the Star Trek movies are FANTASTIC and so is the 4K release of the Back to the Future trilogy.
Cool. I too have a collection of 4K UHD Blu-Rays and I enjoy those as well. On a completely different setup, in another room. I actually don't bother that directors alters the colors or sound when it comes to 4K releases as I see them as a different way of enjoying home video. So I can have the best of two worlds so to speak.
@@5minutesofretro Yeah i don't mind that too IF they would at least make it optional. But in many case we are not given the choice to chose. Usually it's the smaller Labels who often do releases where you get different versions and also the choice between the different colour gradings. I hope when "The Abyss" finally comes to UHD and Blu-ray, they will also include the opened version that James Cameron did for the 4:3 Laserdisc release since he shot it in Super 35 and often resented having to crop it to 2,35:1. That's a movie i have on Laserdisc twice. The original Theatrical cut as NTSC Laserdisc with an aspect ratio of 1,90:1 and the Special Edition extended cut as PAL Laserdisc with an aspect ratio of 2,35:1.
I've bought The Abyss and Aliens a lot of times during the years, on different formats. I'm not too keen on The Abyss any more. I've seen it enough. ;-)
I saw it in 70mm on the big screen in Oslo when it was released back in the day.
I'm not that concerned with the "open matte" thing either. I like the 2:35 aspect ratio. I have it in several different releases as well. On laserdisc.
@@5minutesofretro Lucky You x3 I only saw it on TV in the late 90s and was a fan ever since. I really hope they do a 70mm screening again should they re-release it. I would SOOOO go to see it then. Yeah Aliens is in my collection as well both on Laserdisc (the 1995 NTSC remaster where they re-constructed the entire movie from new 35mm scans) (ref-number on LDDB 8761-85), DVD and Blu-ray. Jim Cameron's movies really are a must have on Laserdisc. I think he's the only director & filmmaker with the most movies in my Laserdisc collection. 😁
I only saw laserdisc demonstrated once, in about 1981 in woolworths. And never saw or or heard of it again, until quite recently on youtube.
It was massive in the late 80s up until the mid 90s, but mostly among movie buffs. In Japan it had about 10% of the home video market and in Europe where I live it was also very popular.
Was not popular in the UK, don’t remember ever seeing them for sale, even in the oxford circus hmv which seemed to have everything
Well, I saw plenty of them in the UK, in the early to mid 90s, but of course it was always an enthusiast format and as such no where near the popularity of VHS that seemed good enough for 95% of home movie people.
@@5minutesofretro I'm in the UK as well, but I didn't go looking for laserdisc in the specialist type places. And can't recall seeing it in regular high street retailers like Dixons, Comet, or Currys, apart from the one time I saw laserdisc been promoted in Woolworths circa 1981.
I used too own 3D0 Goldstar very good console, miss those days sorry I got rid of that first movie I had on that was Total Recall but you had get a adapter
I just went to my local flea market and found a stash of brand new LD. I didn’t know what they were but thought they were pretty cool ! So I just bought goodfellas for 5 bucks 👍🏽
Cool.
Nice collection & setup, I’m surprised however that you do not use a widescreen crt for your letterboxed stuff, it makes such a difference in your viewing experience 👍
I only want to watch on the TV I bought in 1990, the Sony Trinitron you see in the video. I did have a newer Wega as well, that was wide, but I found I preferred to watch on the old one as it gives me the exact same experience as I had in 1990-91. That's the most important part of my enjoyment. ;-)
@@5minutesofretro I understand that completely,I have it too with certain things. I refuse to ride any modern skateboard for example, I need the 80’s shape to be able to fullt enjoy skateboarding 😅
Some of our vices are highly illogical (to others) at times. :P
@@5minutesofretro true 🤣🤣
Noice :-) glad the demod's getting some love :-) enjoy my friend it served me well .. nice video but dont knock the flat screen's for cinema experience, but i get it 👍👍👍👍
It works very well so all good! :) I have both a big flat screen TV and a projector in my main cinema room so not knocking it at all, I just prefer to watch LDs on my old CRT, up on the attic. ;-) Cheers
They look pretty good on an OLED. All about the blacks and contrast which OLED has in spades.
Laserdisc never caught on in the UK. I don't know anyone who owned one. The Dragon's Lair arcade cabinet is the only time I saw one in action.
It was always an enthusiast format so to speak. I still have several friends that collects and watch the format regularly.
They were niche in the US but most video stores had at least 100 discs for rent including the top new releases.
Great setup! I'd love to build something similar though AC3 Receivers are exceedingly rare and expensive in Australia and DC3 demodulators even more so. Are you running a 5.1 setup or do you run it in stereo? I couldn't see a centre. How big is your trinitron?
Thanks! I don't have a surround setup here in the CRT room. In fact, I don't like to watch laserdiscs with Dolby Digital encoding as it means it's not the original theatre stereo mix. Usually. I prefer to watch laserdisc to get as close as possible to the original experience in terms of picture and and sound. All the DST and Dolby Digital releases came later and they'd often remix the whole thing.
I do have a dedicated (Yamaha) AC3 decoder and it works very well though. I have that in my 4K projector room now so I CAN pull out a laserdisc and run it through my main surround speaker setup there.
I do have AC3 decoding in my Denon AVC-1 receiver as well though.
It's a 29" Sony Triniton from 1991.
I've never seen a laserdisc, and honestly, I don't think I really care to, because 4K Bluray on an OLED TV is so amazing
Sure, I don't think many people that didn't experience it in the late 80s and 90s will appreciate them very much today anyways.
I have mine hooked up to a 4k OLED and it looks surprisingly decent.
The format was capable of near dvd quality but was from a time when film to video transfers were less consistent.
@@Knightmessenger DVD is already awful in 2023. No thanks.
I have roughly about 150 laserdiscs maybe 250. My player keeps ejecting the discs as soon as I close the tray so I haven't been able to enjoy them for quite some time.
Nostalgia is a real thing of course- but buddy - I get that from my 77” sony A80j, panny ubp9000 combo, watching Mavrick! Have fun though. ❤
Sure, I have a dedicated home cinema with 4K projection and Dolby Atmos. Great fun. I still prefer my Laserdisc setup upstairs though. ;-)
I still can't figure why it was so unpopular in Europe back in the '80s.
It was very popular in Norway.
I'd love to get some Laser Discs I've never had any 🆒🆒👍👍
Plenty of discs out there. Players too, which of course are necessary. ;-)