That's funny because all the jobs I see are senior jobs. There are no junior jobs out there and very few mid -level. It's all senior and staff positions
It's mostly midior jobs, then senior in my country (Serbia). I am guessing it might be similar in the west. They want Srs at medior level wages or lower. I got my first technical interview in Belgrade, Serbia when i lowered my expectations to 1800 EUR net (~3k gross, maybe 2700).
Junior Jobs are in other countries, because their seniors leave companies, and start working for West, so their companies have to find other seniors, and grab local middle developers, at that moment , middle dev missing, position is open, and a strong junior developer takes that position, and at that moment there is a shortage of junior devs. To become junior developer is still hard there, but much easier than in US, because of that flow. And guess what, they don't value what they have. You should work for free or for a junior salary of that country, which will be a symbolic pay for you, but you are getting the experience, which will boost you.
this also applies to life in general. I was sucked into the negativity from social media and trapped myself in for 4 years . Regret it, im changing slowly happily..
You're not saying anything we don't already know Cristian. Yeah, we all need to learn skills because the world changes, and if you don't want to be left behind you must adapt. But CODING IS NOT IT! There are way fewer jobs for developers than ever. Even if you find a job posting there are more than 100 applicants. Chances are you're not even going to get a reply saying they decided to interview someone else. Many of the job postings are even fake. They are just building a resume database so in case they get a new project they can hire people quickly. And there you are, coding every day, trying to get better, getting older by the day, hoping someone will finally give you a chance. It's fucking pointless... Sure, there will be that 1 in a 100 that gets the job. But chances are that's not you. So, in the end, you have a couple of choices. Keep at it, work a regular job while trying to improve your coding skills in you free time, meaning you have no life... or spend time on something else, that actually makes you happy, or learning a skill in a less competitive market that can bring you just as much money as coding. It's a sad reality for people learning how to code, especially because it takes years to get good at it, only to be just another resume in a company's database....
@@cristian-florea-coding If I don't get a job until March this year, I will let it go. I haven't quit only because I've invested so much time and energy into it.. it's been two and a half years... going to bed at 1am, doing my regular job, taking care of my kid, having no free time whatsoever... and it's starting to take a toll on my health. Quitting feels bad, because that would mean I have wasted two and half years of my life, but when I look at things objectively, it might be necessary. I'll keep coding for myself, just because I like it... but that's about it. If you don't make a living as a programmer already, it's extremely hard to be competitive with all the shit you have to do in life besides improving your programming skills. I don't recommend this for 20 year old kids, who live with their parents... they can do whatever... But I'm 38... I really have no time to waste. Also, coming from a country like Serbia isn't helping much. There literally are no opportunities. A 2 junior frontend dev postings in the last two months.... hundreds of applicant... The funny thing is they were curious about my portfolio so at least I was called for HR screening. But then they see me, and there comes the question "How old are you by the way?". Maybe I'm just shit at coding... Here's my portfolio.. so you tell me: portfolio-george.onrender.com/ I just think that for some people it might be too late. If you're a kid, there's a chance. But if you're in your mid thirties, trying to switch careers, choose something else. There's a bunch of 20 year olds that know just as much as you, and are 15 years younger, that you are competing with. And guess who companies prefer? Greetings from Serbia, and merry Christmas!
Sounds fair, what do you think I should do or learn next? What is that industry that has less competition. Help me decide please because I'm a computer science student and about to graduate and am confused as what industry i should pursue next since tech is down
I know this video is meant to be serious, but the way you said everything just cracked me up lmao In all seriousness yes you need to learn new skills in this day and age and contribute to whatever is happening now and will happen in the future, times have changed and you need to adapt. This is the video I needed though, thank you.
Social proof effect - In some cases, using such categories may aim to influence others in the group - if someone loudly claims that someone is a 'loser' in a given situation, it may prompt others to conform to this opinion, while those who feel like 'winners' may gain favor in the eyes of others.
"Yes, a person applying the social proof effect can indeed try to create a group in front of which they present their opinions or recordings to achieve personal benefits. Using social proof involves influencing others by creating the impression that a particular opinion or stance is popular or widely accepted. This person may try to gain support for their position by creating a situation where the group they belong to will be inclined to adopt their views or actions. If this person loudly claims that someone is a "loser" or a "winner" in the eyes of the group, they may attempt to rally others to adopt the same opinion, creating a sense of consensus or social pressure. In this way, they can influence public opinion within the group, which could bring them benefits, such as gaining more popularity, strengthening their position within the group, or obtaining support for their own goals. This is an example of social manipulation, where the person seeks to shape the group's opinion to increase their own power or benefits. It can also lead to an increase in their influence or position, especially if the group sees them as a leader or someone with a decisive voice in social matters."
💯 %. That's called propaganda in favor of some group, to show them successful, to make them attractive in eyes of mid or lower level minded crowd. This makes the crowd ignore the real analysis and listen to those "successful", subordinating their own workforce and perception them. Another, may be main gole, is to put truth tellers in bad looking position. Trying to make them tell truth less, calling it complain, and raising bootlickers position in the eyes of the crowd.
I know a guy that got an IT job at Bloomberg without any college degree nor experience, not even a cert to his name, simply because they knew a guy. Doesn't even know what CompTIA is haha! That happens everywhere but tech should be the last place where that happens as it is supposed to be all skill based, both hard and soft. There is a lot of nepotism going on with the layoffs, favoring cheaper and more agreeable/less skilled and thus less argumentative employees. I hope things turn around but it looks like this will continue to get worse a little bit more before it gets better.
Everyone can have a senior dev position at 0 dollars an hour. Getting a senior dev position that competes with inflation is entirely another issue. I am one of those with 10 years of experience. Most developers are brain dead and could not write good code it their life depended on it since they have less than 5 years experience. This whole loser/winner talk has nothing to do with code. If being a so-called winner is what you want like Bill Gates or Trump then you just need be closer to the printing press. Not 1 coder has ever made good money from just developing software. All developers are losers in that sense. No coding skill will keep you from being a loser. Stay positive about life, but all good people are the losers.
Had a SR DEV friend, bash me for not knowing coding (actually said to me when I first got laid off in 2022) : oh well u didnt bring value to the team. How fkn rude... well. I since, got into PM with my mediocre Java/SQL/COBOL skills, now Im making 2x what he was... I realized, I had the advantage with knowing networking/cloud, some code, DevSecOps but then heavy PM skills. He JUST KNEW CODING... me, I literally know everything else. Thats been keeping me afloat with back-to-back contracts
I'd would have agreed with you not long ago. but I sent out some feelers to see what's out there, and it looks desperate. Luckily, I set myself up during the lucrative years, but I feel for the people who just spent four years in college to try to get into the industry. Perhaps if the interest rates plummet, it'll get better
@@cristian-florea-coding because it looks like an advertisement to sell another nothing. along with whining, whining, excessive optimism is also quite common. sometimes, the real thing is difficult, it's not because you watch negative news. hello from Ukraine, by the way. I'm a developer :)
Ya, it's good to be aware of the algo we're in. Step out of the Matrix, and into the real. Ok, gotcha. My wish for developers is that the come together and collaborate more. I see a lot of isolation out there. Echo chambers like TH-cam can be a bit toxic, but get out and talk to real humans often. That's a good thing.
Software development is now a third-world activity. Soon to be automated out of existence, like press operator or lamplighter. There's simply no compelling reason for young people (in developed nations) to pursue STEM careers. To what end?
When you are a senior developer of 10 years or something you need to have connections from the last 10 years with people that are supposed to be so impressed with you that they can help you get a job.
Did reach out to connections I've made along the years, didn't help. I guess in my case the connections weren't C-level or higher management people, but rather senior/architect level. I didn't even get a chance to have a technical interview, because apparently some higher ups looked at my CV and decided that I'm not good enough because I didn't work with the exact tech stack they work with. In one case I got rejected because I worked with a different auth lib compared with what they use, even though it did pretty much the exact same thing (I've matched all other requirements), it's bonkers. The market seems dead to me right now.
@@zkratzz I will admit one thing that might help you, these senior engineers or architect sometimes say they will help you and send your CV but never do. You have to bug them and annoy them to death. But I agree the market is dead and holds a lot of risks right now, I am genuinely not sure why.
I'm new to programming but this applies to any skill, I am a house painter and I will NOT hire someone with painting experience because they are untrainable. Usually they're stuck in their ways and won't do things like I want them to.
@@aRazvan994 Yes however I run my own business. Every once in awhile though I'll help another painter and I will do things exactly as they tell me even if I think my way is better or more efficient because it's their job, so it's not impossible to overcome but it's not common.
@@aRazvan994 I think this is a dishonest judgment. Each person can learn again... just like changing martial arts. What's wrong with someone who is a master of jiu jitsu learning another martial arts, what does that affect?
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My company laid me off after 10 years of loyalty along with 2 other senior devs only to hire 6 new employees in India and Argentina.
That's funny because all the jobs I see are senior jobs. There are no junior jobs out there and very few mid -level. It's all senior and staff positions
It just means they want to pay senior level people jr level pay.
It's mostly midior jobs, then senior in my country (Serbia). I am guessing it might be similar in the west. They want Srs at medior level wages or lower. I got my first technical interview in Belgrade, Serbia when i lowered my expectations to 1800 EUR net (~3k gross, maybe 2700).
Junior Jobs are in other countries, because their seniors leave companies, and start working for West, so their companies have to find other seniors, and grab local middle developers, at that moment , middle dev missing, position is open, and a strong junior developer takes that position, and at that moment there is a shortage of junior devs. To become junior developer is still hard there, but much easier than in US, because of that flow. And guess what, they don't value what they have. You should work for free or for a junior salary of that country, which will be a symbolic pay for you, but you are getting the experience, which will boost you.
@@ka-md8ue No Brasil, também, não tem vaga para junior.
If a senior can't get a medior job at least, then there's something wrong with that picture
this also applies to life in general. I was sucked into the negativity from social media and trapped myself in for 4 years . Regret it, im changing slowly happily..
Agreed. I think the sooner we can all get away from these traps and learn to think for ourselves, the better.
You're not saying anything we don't already know Cristian. Yeah, we all need to learn skills because the world changes, and if you don't want to be left behind you must adapt.
But CODING IS NOT IT!
There are way fewer jobs for developers than ever. Even if you find a job posting there are more than 100 applicants. Chances are you're not even going to get a reply saying they decided to interview someone else. Many of the job postings are even fake. They are just building a resume database so in case they get a new project they can hire people quickly.
And there you are, coding every day, trying to get better, getting older by the day, hoping someone will finally give you a chance. It's fucking pointless...
Sure, there will be that 1 in a 100 that gets the job. But chances are that's not you.
So, in the end, you have a couple of choices. Keep at it, work a regular job while trying to improve your coding skills in you free time, meaning you have no life... or spend time on something else, that actually makes you happy, or learning a skill in a less competitive market that can bring you just as much money as coding.
It's a sad reality for people learning how to code, especially because it takes years to get good at it, only to be just another resume in a company's database....
so why don’t you let it go and do something else. why do you so desperately cling to it. I want to know (genuine question)
@@cristian-florea-coding If I don't get a job until March this year, I will let it go. I haven't quit only because I've invested so much time and energy into it.. it's been two and a half years... going to bed at 1am, doing my regular job, taking care of my kid, having no free time whatsoever... and it's starting to take a toll on my health.
Quitting feels bad, because that would mean I have wasted two and half years of my life, but when I look at things objectively, it might be necessary.
I'll keep coding for myself, just because I like it... but that's about it. If you don't make a living as a programmer already, it's extremely hard to be competitive with all the shit you have to do in life besides improving your programming skills. I don't recommend this for 20 year old kids, who live with their parents... they can do whatever... But I'm 38... I really have no time to waste.
Also, coming from a country like Serbia isn't helping much. There literally are no opportunities. A 2 junior frontend dev postings in the last two months.... hundreds of applicant... The funny thing is they were curious about my portfolio so at least I was called for HR screening. But then they see me, and there comes the question "How old are you by the way?".
Maybe I'm just shit at coding...
Here's my portfolio.. so you tell me:
portfolio-george.onrender.com/
I just think that for some people it might be too late. If you're a kid, there's a chance. But if you're in your mid thirties, trying to switch careers, choose something else. There's a bunch of 20 year olds that know just as much as you, and are 15 years younger, that you are competing with. And guess who companies prefer?
Greetings from Serbia, and merry Christmas!
Sounds fair, what do you think I should do or learn next? What is that industry that has less competition.
Help me decide please because I'm a computer science student and about to graduate and am confused as what industry i should pursue next since tech is down
Can you please recommend that less competitive market that pays as much as tech
while you complain, people like me won't make any excuses and work harder to get a job with the following months, thanks, less competition
simple answer:
it's down to the market. nothing to do with devs.
devs are part of the market?
A lot of people don't want to take responsibility. It's that simple. There are always people who make it, don't no for an answer and do it smart.
I know this video is meant to be serious, but the way you said everything just cracked me up lmao
In all seriousness yes you need to learn new skills in this day and age and contribute to whatever is happening now and will happen in the future, times have changed and you need to adapt. This is the video I needed though, thank you.
Victim mentality! It's what drags people down. Feeling your best in such compliance is the killer of hope, self-confidence and happiness
Social proof effect - In some cases, using such categories may aim to influence others in the group - if someone loudly claims that someone is a 'loser' in a given situation, it may prompt others to conform to this opinion, while those who feel like 'winners' may gain favor in the eyes of others.
Are You my friend trying to create group of people that watch this record?
"Yes, a person applying the social proof effect can indeed try to create a group in front of which they present their opinions or recordings to achieve personal benefits. Using social proof involves influencing others by creating the impression that a particular opinion or stance is popular or widely accepted. This person may try to gain support for their position by creating a situation where the group they belong to will be inclined to adopt their views or actions.
If this person loudly claims that someone is a "loser" or a "winner" in the eyes of the group, they may attempt to rally others to adopt the same opinion, creating a sense of consensus or social pressure. In this way, they can influence public opinion within the group, which could bring them benefits, such as gaining more popularity, strengthening their position within the group, or obtaining support for their own goals.
This is an example of social manipulation, where the person seeks to shape the group's opinion to increase their own power or benefits. It can also lead to an increase in their influence or position, especially if the group sees them as a leader or someone with a decisive voice in social matters."
This is why we are not hired anymore - we see everything.
I'm not sure how this would be social proof?
💯 %. That's called propaganda in favor of some group, to show them successful, to make them attractive in eyes of mid or lower level minded crowd. This makes the crowd ignore the real analysis and listen to those "successful", subordinating their own workforce and perception them.
Another, may be main gole, is to put truth tellers in bad looking position. Trying to make them tell truth less, calling it complain, and raising bootlickers position in the eyes of the crowd.
I know a guy that got an IT job at Bloomberg without any college degree nor experience, not even a cert to his name, simply because they knew a guy. Doesn't even know what CompTIA is haha! That happens everywhere but tech should be the last place where that happens as it is supposed to be all skill based, both hard and soft. There is a lot of nepotism going on with the layoffs, favoring cheaper and more agreeable/less skilled and thus less argumentative employees. I hope things turn around but it looks like this will continue to get worse a little bit more before it gets better.
Everyone can have a senior dev position at 0 dollars an hour. Getting a senior dev position that competes with inflation is entirely another issue. I am one of those with 10 years of experience. Most developers are brain dead and could not write good code it their life depended on it since they have less than 5 years experience. This whole loser/winner talk has nothing to do with code. If being a so-called winner is what you want like Bill Gates or Trump then you just need be closer to the printing press. Not 1 coder has ever made good money from just developing software. All developers are losers in that sense. No coding skill will keep you from being a loser. Stay positive about life, but all good people are the losers.
He doesn't look like senior software developer
Had a SR DEV friend, bash me for not knowing coding (actually said to me when I first got laid off in 2022) : oh well u didnt bring value to the team.
How fkn rude...
well. I since, got into PM with my mediocre Java/SQL/COBOL skills, now Im making 2x what he was...
I realized, I had the advantage with knowing networking/cloud, some code, DevSecOps but then heavy PM skills.
He JUST KNEW CODING... me, I literally know everything else. Thats been keeping me afloat with back-to-back contracts
how does a software developer look like? please enlighten me lol
I'd would have agreed with you not long ago. but I sent out some feelers to see what's out there, and it looks desperate. Luckily, I set myself up during the lucrative years, but I feel for the people who just spent four years in college to try to get into the industry. Perhaps if the interest rates plummet, it'll get better
They want to know what is a smart pointer and what is TCP instead of coding skill
whats the problem with tcp? every developer should know what it is and how it works
The moment I see mentorship link in description, the vedio loses credibility in my eyes 😂
why?
I even didn't mention that link. Your comment helped to have same feeling 😅
@@cristian-florea-coding because it looks like an advertisement to sell another nothing. along with whining, whining, excessive optimism is also quite common. sometimes, the real thing is difficult, it's not because you watch negative news. hello from Ukraine, by the way. I'm a developer :)
@ really?
@@eolit1o Exatamente. Vendedores de curso tem perfis semelhantes, choramingos e excesso de otimismo.
I agree with the attitude. I was studying yesterday and was thinking about whether it will pay off. I’m employed but considering the future.
Are you talking about the US? I thought we need more visas because there aren't enough developers here? If not, where is this happening?
junior dev seeing this lol fuck me
Ya, it's good to be aware of the algo we're in. Step out of the Matrix, and into the real. Ok, gotcha. My wish for developers is that the come together and collaborate more. I see a lot of isolation out there. Echo chambers like TH-cam can be a bit toxic, but get out and talk to real humans often. That's a good thing.
It's not shape, It's a fear I belive.
Is he from Sparta?
Which youtube creator are we talking about?
don't remember, I hit "don't recommend this channel" asap.
..but Im not a dog.
I totally agree everything you said
Markets recover
keep dreaming 😂😂😂😂
@@jackblack1801 people are just amazing at coping. The market will never go back to what it was haha
Software development is now a third-world activity. Soon to be automated out of existence, like press operator or lamplighter.
There's simply no compelling reason for young people (in developed nations) to pursue STEM careers. To what end?
When you are a senior developer of 10 years or something you need to have connections from the last 10 years with people that are supposed to be so impressed with you that they can help you get a job.
Did reach out to connections I've made along the years, didn't help. I guess in my case the connections weren't C-level or higher management people, but rather senior/architect level. I didn't even get a chance to have a technical interview, because apparently some higher ups looked at my CV and decided that I'm not good enough because I didn't work with the exact tech stack they work with. In one case I got rejected because I worked with a different auth lib compared with what they use, even though it did pretty much the exact same thing (I've matched all other requirements), it's bonkers. The market seems dead to me right now.
@@zkratzz I will admit one thing that might help you, these senior engineers or architect sometimes say they will help you and send your CV but never do. You have to bug them and annoy them to death.
But I agree the market is dead and holds a lot of risks right now, I am genuinely not sure why.
follow up till they block you
True
Visit Sri Lanka tooo
I'm new to programming but this applies to any skill, I am a house painter and I will NOT hire someone with painting experience because they are untrainable.
Usually they're stuck in their ways and won't do things like I want them to.
But doesn't that mean you're just as rigid? XD
@@aRazvan994 Yes however I run my own business.
Every once in awhile though I'll help another painter and I will do things exactly as they tell me even if I think my way is better or more efficient because it's their job, so it's not impossible to overcome but it's not common.
@@aRazvan994 I think this is a dishonest judgment.
Each person can learn again... just like changing martial arts.
What's wrong with someone who is a master of jiu jitsu learning another martial arts, what does that affect?