One thing I like about the Pike's sideboard bed addon is that, like with the Crocodile, it comes with integrated small fuel tanks, for an additional 60 L of fuel. (I think it's 60, I'm going from memory). Cheers! //Rick
Good review, I picked it over the Vorons for 2 bed duty without trailer in Phase 8. However I really dislike the interior and how the snorkel hinders some add-ons so it will probably not become a go-to truck for me.
Thanks again for this review Nate. This step is my favorite truck in the game so far. It convinced me with logging and hauling in Wisconsin and later maps as well. I was so impressed it and it drove right into my heart. For how stable it is and the power it has it didn’t take long before I fell in love with the pike. I haven’t tested all the trucks to the extend that you have Nate but I’m so convinced of this one. I admit to the downsides you’ve mentioned for sure but I love that challenge. The tire options and the power give the pike monstrous capabilities under heavy loads and the utility is fantastic. What is your favorite truck in the game … besides the P12 please 😅 I’d love to see it’s always on AWD to become switchable in the future to increase Its range and add to our learned driver skills from you ;D and your videos Keep up the good work And have a blessed day Nate
This for sure is a fantastic truck. My fav is actually the 64131 believe it or not, but i think also the Cat Ct681, Mack Defense, C500, Step 310E, Paystar 5070, Freightliner 114SD, WS NF 1430, Derry 4520 and i think thats my list lol
@ thank you Nate, That’s quite an extensive list of favorites, but I see where you coming from. Thank you for commenting and sharing your tips. I hope my comments are not too extensive and bothersome, since I know your a working man, and streaming plus TH-cam is „still“ a hobby. I just can’t get over it how much effort you put into your videos and also time on streaming, I’ll vote for you becoming a partner on twitch and I’d love to help you out by watching your streams whenever I can. Keep up the good work Nathan and you’ll get there. With all appreciation [Loui(seizeXVI)] ;-D
Hey Nathan great review as always I am currently working on a tire size video and I noticed when you popped up tire size in the off-road class and scouts that the croc is listed as a max tire of 41 which is incorrect that is actually 42 inches. so it can have 39 and 42 in highway all terrain off-road and chained the only area where it’s max is 41 is actually it’s mud tires. Not sure if that was what tripped you up just letting you know. I am still watching but let you know if I catch anything else.
@@NProvince probably yes lol I just happened to notice because I was working on this last night and I’m like wait I swear it was 42 so I checked my notes and I was like okay I’m not going crazy. So this is on a side note the person who gave you the info about engine damage with consumption rates is that posted on Reddit or anywhere? And do they have that with more trucks I’m curious because I plan I’m on doing more trucks reviews but I want to include like as much information as I can find with stuff like that. If you see my other reviews they sorta go into more details with possible addons driver levels upgrade locations I just want to put as much as I can into it and that is great information. I didn’t include truck weights in my first few but will be doing that going forward and I didn’t include the durability but I did think about putting that in when I did my 3rd review. And also the torque ratings which is also more good information so I will include that as well. Is there anything else you would have liked to include but didn’t in your reviews? Could be anything I’m just curious if you feel like you left anything out that might have been useful. Thanks for all the work you do and for all this information ahead of time.
One weird thing I’ve noticed about this truck is the standard hitch angle is very weird, most noticeable when you have the sideboard bed on. Some trailers, most noticeably the medium logging trailer, actually cause the rear wheels to lift off the ground making it practically useless on most surfaces. Other than that, I love this truck. It’s surprisingly fast and rugged and is actually fun to drive.
Yeah I even mentioned this bug to him before. I guess this is the collision issue with certain addon's Nathan breezed by. Kinda feels like this is a bigger issue that should of been given a bit more attention though.
Yes, I knew about it this from testing and our conversation Justin. I didnt wanna get into more detail other than it has hitch collisons on trailers and to watch what trailers you choose to attach. For log trailers, I probably wouldnt choose this one to tow medium log trailers with of course. I felt that it would be like a broken record talking about trailer collisions in depth when it has been discussed alot on the channel. I think people will understand that they just need to consider good trailer options
@@NProvince Ah. I assumed that comment was referring to the trailer portion making collisions with the bed rather than the hitch part. Carry on. :) Yeah, the first time I tried to hook a logging trailer to the pike and was driving on just my front wheels was an interesting experience. It sorta works on bumpy dirt roads, but once you hit tarmac it's undrivable.
I unlocked it today. Nice little workhorse! And so ...2 new trucks in my small garage (the free one with crane and bed and the second one w/o crane but sparetire and better air filter). The Voin engine option would have been cool. Anyways... another RU truck that rivals easily some NA trucks 😕
I think the Pike is the best small (emphasis on "small") hauling class truck in the game, edging out the WWS and Bandit. It was the part of phase 8 I was looking forward to the most and I think the Devs did a wonderful job with it. I disagree however characterizing this truck as competition with the Vorons and Taygas, the Pike costs 16K stock (less than many scouts and half that of the Kodiak), has 43" tires and weighs under 8 tons. It's true competition are things like the Kodiak, small US 6x6s like the MH9500, the Fleetstar and the WWS, the KRS Bandit, the Zixz 5368, and of course, the 310E. I know the Pike is classified as Off Road, but so is the Tatra 805 which really should be put in the scout class. The Vorons/Taygas are in a whole nother league compared to the little 6x6s. The tire size flaw is absolutely valid, but I'll add that the flotation of the MHSIIs (which I think are the best tire option in the game and the Pike is the only small truck that has these) reduces the extent that the truck sinks in mud or soft ground, so the smaller size is less of an issue. The THMS has this ability as well, but has a significantly worse grip qualities and trucks with the THMS (particularly lighter ones) struggle to put power down and tend to bleed so much power in anything above 2nd gear.
Really good outlook on this. Lots of good points made here. In reference to the bigger 6x6s, I compared it, but I never said it was on that level, but similar just smaller. I do see similarities, yet scaled down to a different size of truck.
Well, the Bandit can't not be stuck. Not even thin ice and the ice mud in Amur. And remember these two things can stuck TUZ 420. Also it can't not be high center and unlike other 8×8, It doesn't have front overhang. So it go through vertical obstacles quite easily. Only deep water and tree can stop this thing. The off-road capabilit of Bandit offer is Top 3 in this game. It beat Tayga surly. But it did trade some stability for the performance like this especially with crane. Also trade quite a lot durability. The Pike is good but I doubt it can edging out Bandit.
Bandit is one of the most underrated truck in this game. People get it from the start. Drive around little bit and filp it instantly the never take it for seconds ride. The stock configuration is quite worse and it need skill to drive. And the time it got upgraded people already got some really good truck so why bother to drive the Bandit again.
@@freedisappointment815 Your points are all correct. The damage issue of the LAZ240 engine is why i downgrade to the IMZ in the Bandit. The Bandit is one of only 2 low-saddle trucks that can go through death ice/mud/snow (the other is the ANK-C). I like the Bandit more now than I used to, but I just don't think it's a very good tractor for hauling trailers (both hitch and saddle), more conventional trucks like the WWS perform this role better. I also don't think the tire set in the Bandit is all that great and the ridiculous fuel tank is why I always have the roof-rack.
is there a trick for driving in high gear? i swear on a majority of vehicles in the game as soon as i put it in high it slows to an absolute crawl even getting stall warnings even on flat ground like ice lakes. s-tier trucks with the best engines can do it ok but almost everything else it seems broken or pointless?
So high gear is finicky thing, high gear doesn’t hold it max power to stop it from stalling until it’s at its full speed. Usually if you can get a vehicle into second gear from auto, high gear should go and be fine. Now when you hit deep mud or terrain, vehicles without S power will stall and the vehicles with S power will just wheel spin. This is when you down shift, get through the patch, and do it over again.
So, the Pike is the pocket Tayga, as I keep saying. Very little it can't do, it has high power to weight and always on features. Too bad they messed up with its bed positioned backwards and too low, catching on trailers. Another thing the devs missed is the absence of Offroad and Chained tires. That's because heavy doubles are split into two files with different width: highway and all-terrain in 1st file, offroads and chains in 2nd file. And the truck's XML misses the line that would add "wheels_heavy_double2" into the "" tag. Other heavy offroad tires exist as heavy_single1 set, but the Pike has no access to these either, it skips right to the heavy_single2, that are the MHS II and III.
I think it’s pretty much as close as you can get to being a mini Tayga. I think the Croc has better balance, but I think your pretty spot on there. Also that’s a good catch in the files! Could you imagine if it did have more tires sets?! Wow!
Hey Nathan, I wanted to know your opinion on something. Do you think that it’s possible to complete the game using scouts only (except for missions using the seismic vibrator)? That, and what about beating the game without building bridges?
Hey Lamp so in short I think that would be a true challenge and test of patience,l. Respect for wanting to do that. So I don’t think it could be done because in addition to the things you mentioned, there are larger pieces of cargo that scouts cannot move like 4 slot containers and logs as well. I think scouts will struggle to deliver cargo as a whole. You could modify the challenge where any 1-2 slot cargo is delivered from a scout, but there are only a few scouts that I would feel comfortable pulling loads of cargo. This will make the selection very slim. Concerning bridges, I’m not sure enough to give you a Yes or a No on that one.
Some bridges will probably need to be built. (Black River Bridge, Black Badger Lake Bridges are good to have but I guess not needed, etc). As for scouts only, not many scout can haul cargo effectively. The best for the task are probably the F-750, loadstar, and Yar 87. Those aren’t exactly early game.
@@NProvince The F-750 is actually capable of hauling 4 slot containers. The only cargo that it can’t haul are logs and train segments. If you’re planning to do Scout only, F-750 will certainly be your friend. Edit: I forgot to scroll down :l Oops
I did mention briefly the collision issues with hitch trailers and saddle trailers. I feel like I’ve explained the collision issues on other reviews enough that viewers understand that some trailers just aren’t a good option. Hauling weight in general, I havent seen any issues.
@@NProvince ah my fault I'll have to pay closer attention next time. Great review though- interesting to see this DLC as an easier set of maps- like a cross between Michigan and Taymyr
I honestly really like it. It's cute, versatile and quite decent. Funny thing until now I didn't relize it didn't have chained wheels loke what wait what for real? Why? It's disappointing really. Like really disappointing I dnd't realize that despite having driven this thing for many hours now. I think it's just a better 310E at this point. Mudtires, more add-ons and a roof rack. I use it a lot with the stock tires because I like the looks and the challange and it surprised me a lot. It's very capable to me and actually became one of my new top three favourites. The bed is actually bugged aparently it sits quite a bit too low where it clips into the frame of the truck and causes trailers to behave strange. I use a mod that fixes it but it should hopefully be adressed by the devs soon. Nevertheless I really like the looks, sounds and utility of this truck. Basically one of the Vorons that trades offroad capabilities for more versatility like sideboard bed + crane and trailer combo, long logs and crane and the vibrator. I really like it, eventhough it pains me a bit to see my 310E slightly getting powercreeped. Nice review as usual 👍👍
I appreciate those kind words. It does seem like a buffed 310E, but I still love the 310. The Pike has some drawbacks with hitch trailer contact and such, but overall it’s growing on me a lot
This truck was total trash in og spintires. It could get stock with no load. Now caries long logs. Lol devs totally dropped the ball here. Zil 131 was decent tho.
One thing I like about the Pike's sideboard bed addon is that, like with the Crocodile, it comes with integrated small fuel tanks, for an additional 60 L of fuel. (I think it's 60, I'm going from memory). Cheers! //Rick
Ya that added fuel give it really nice range!
It is a lot better than expected.
That’s for sure! :)
4:40 it's so pleasant to see myself in your videos from now on! Oh, is the full review on the most noticeable engines coming soon? nice!
Yes sir, I’m gonna work on that soon. Might be a more informal setting with the data being the highlight:)
this is by far my new favorite truck. i love the step trucks and this is a welcome addition to add to the step bros
It’s really hard not to like it for sure Tolar! Glad you like it as well bro!
Ur reviews are so good....I've watched each and every one of them..!! Continue the great work
I appreciate that! Thank you! More to come :)
Here a year later just unlocked and went straight for your review Nate! Love how you left in a clip of just absolutely sending off a cliff... xD
Glad you saw and enjoyed that! :) thank you for watching. It’s nice to see that you feel these videos are still useful
I used this with the vibrator for that contract in The Institute as a test. It surprised me how well it did. Great review, Nate.
Thanks Rob! It really is a very strong little truck
Thank for video. Its one of my favorites this days, on season 8 I used it in most contracts.
Good review, I picked it over the Vorons for 2 bed duty without trailer in Phase 8.
However I really dislike the interior and how the snorkel hinders some add-ons so it will probably not become a go-to truck for me.
Thanks again for this review Nate.
This step is my favorite truck in the game so far. It convinced me with logging and hauling in Wisconsin and later maps as well.
I was so impressed it and it drove right into my heart.
For how stable it is and the power it has it didn’t take long before I fell in love with the pike. I haven’t tested all the trucks to the extend that you have Nate but I’m so convinced of this one. I admit to the downsides you’ve mentioned for sure but I love that challenge. The tire options and the power give the pike monstrous capabilities under heavy loads and the utility is fantastic.
What is your favorite truck in the game … besides the P12 please 😅
I’d love to see it’s always on AWD to become switchable in the future to increase Its range and add to our learned driver skills from you ;D and your videos
Keep up the good work
And have a blessed day Nate
This for sure is a fantastic truck. My fav is actually the 64131 believe it or not, but i think also the Cat Ct681, Mack Defense, C500, Step 310E, Paystar 5070, Freightliner 114SD, WS NF 1430, Derry 4520 and i think thats my list lol
@ thank you Nate,
That’s quite an extensive list of favorites, but I see where you coming from.
Thank you for commenting and sharing your tips.
I hope my comments are not too extensive and bothersome, since I know your a working man, and streaming plus TH-cam is „still“ a hobby. I just can’t get over it how much effort you put into your videos and also time on streaming, I’ll vote for you becoming a partner on twitch and I’d love to help you out by watching your streams whenever I can.
Keep up the good work Nathan and you’ll get there.
With all appreciation
[Loui(seizeXVI)] ;-D
Step on the pike
That's the first thing that came to mind
But nice review nathan
And GMC MH9500 supremacy
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! The GMC is awesome :)
Just finished Michigan, love this game and your vids dude ! 🔥
Thats awesome! Keep up the good work! Glad you have been enjoying the channel :)
Really like that truck... It's small but fierce, like a honey badger.
Hey Nathan great review as always I am currently working on a tire size video and I noticed when you popped up tire size in the off-road class and scouts that the croc is listed as a max tire of 41 which is incorrect that is actually 42 inches. so it can have 39 and 42 in highway all terrain off-road and chained the only area where it’s max is 41 is actually it’s mud tires. Not sure if that was what tripped you up just letting you know. I am still watching but let you know if I catch anything else.
Oh yes, That probably was a typo. Good catch JJ
@@NProvince probably yes lol I just happened to notice because I was working on this last night and I’m like wait I swear it was 42 so I checked my notes and I was like okay I’m not going crazy. So this is on a side note the person who gave you the info about engine damage with consumption rates is that posted on Reddit or anywhere? And do they have that with more trucks I’m curious because I plan I’m on doing more trucks reviews but I want to include like as much information as I can find with stuff like that. If you see my other reviews they sorta go into more details with possible addons driver levels upgrade locations I just want to put as much as I can into it and that is great information. I didn’t include truck weights in my first few but will be doing that going forward and I didn’t include the durability but I did think about putting that in when I did my 3rd review. And also the torque ratings which is also more good information so I will include that as well. Is there anything else you would have liked to include but didn’t in your reviews? Could be anything I’m just curious if you feel like you left anything out that might have been useful. Thanks for all the work you do and for all this information ahead of time.
One weird thing I’ve noticed about this truck is the standard hitch angle is very weird, most noticeable when you have the sideboard bed on. Some trailers, most noticeably the medium logging trailer, actually cause the rear wheels to lift off the ground making it practically useless on most surfaces. Other than that, I love this truck. It’s surprisingly fast and rugged and is actually fun to drive.
Yeah I even mentioned this bug to him before. I guess this is the collision issue with certain addon's Nathan breezed by. Kinda feels like this is a bigger issue that should of been given a bit more attention though.
Yes, I knew about it this from testing and our conversation Justin. I didnt wanna get into more detail other than it has hitch collisons on trailers and to watch what trailers you choose to attach. For log trailers, I probably wouldnt choose this one to tow medium log trailers with of course. I felt that it would be like a broken record talking about trailer collisions in depth when it has been discussed alot on the channel. I think people will understand that they just need to consider good trailer options
@@NProvince Ah. I assumed that comment was referring to the trailer portion making collisions with the bed rather than the hitch part. Carry on. :) Yeah, the first time I tried to hook a logging trailer to the pike and was driving on just my front wheels was an interesting experience. It sorta works on bumpy dirt roads, but once you hit tarmac it's undrivable.
Nice job as usual nath yeah the pike is very decent I quite enjoye it
Thank you Brian!
@@NProvince your welcome buddy
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I unlocked it today. Nice little workhorse! And so ...2 new trucks in my small garage (the free one with crane and bed and the second one w/o crane but sparetire and better air filter).
The Voin engine option would have been cool.
Anyways... another RU truck that rivals easily some NA trucks 😕
I think the Pike is the best small (emphasis on "small") hauling class truck in the game, edging out the WWS and Bandit. It was the part of phase 8 I was looking forward to the most and I think the Devs did a wonderful job with it. I disagree however characterizing this truck as competition with the Vorons and Taygas, the Pike costs 16K stock (less than many scouts and half that of the Kodiak), has 43" tires and weighs under 8 tons. It's true competition are things like the Kodiak, small US 6x6s like the MH9500, the Fleetstar and the WWS, the KRS Bandit, the Zixz 5368, and of course, the 310E. I know the Pike is classified as Off Road, but so is the Tatra 805 which really should be put in the scout class. The Vorons/Taygas are in a whole nother league compared to the little 6x6s.
The tire size flaw is absolutely valid, but I'll add that the flotation of the MHSIIs (which I think are the best tire option in the game and the Pike is the only small truck that has these) reduces the extent that the truck sinks in mud or soft ground, so the smaller size is less of an issue. The THMS has this ability as well, but has a significantly worse grip qualities and trucks with the THMS (particularly lighter ones) struggle to put power down and tend to bleed so much power in anything above 2nd gear.
Really good outlook on this. Lots of good points made here. In reference to the bigger 6x6s, I compared it, but I never said it was on that level, but similar just smaller. I do see similarities, yet scaled down to a different size of truck.
Well, the Bandit can't not be stuck. Not even thin ice and the ice mud in Amur. And remember these two things can stuck TUZ 420. Also it can't not be high center and unlike other 8×8, It doesn't have front overhang. So it go through vertical obstacles quite easily. Only deep water and tree can stop this thing. The off-road capabilit of Bandit offer is Top 3 in this game. It beat Tayga surly. But it did trade some stability for the performance like this especially with crane. Also trade quite a lot durability. The Pike is good but I doubt it can edging out Bandit.
Bandit is one of the most underrated truck in this game. People get it from the start. Drive around little bit and filp it instantly the never take it for seconds ride. The stock configuration is quite worse and it need skill to drive. And the time it got upgraded people already got some really good truck so why bother to drive the Bandit again.
@@freedisappointment815 Your points are all correct. The damage issue of the LAZ240 engine is why i downgrade to the IMZ in the Bandit. The Bandit is one of only 2 low-saddle trucks that can go through death ice/mud/snow (the other is the ANK-C). I like the Bandit more now than I used to, but I just don't think it's a very good tractor for hauling trailers (both hitch and saddle), more conventional trucks like the WWS perform this role better. I also don't think the tire set in the Bandit is all that great and the ridiculous fuel tank is why I always have the roof-rack.
is there a trick for driving in high gear? i swear on a majority of vehicles in the game as soon as i put it in high it slows to an absolute crawl even getting stall warnings even on flat ground like ice lakes. s-tier trucks with the best engines can do it ok but almost everything else it seems broken or pointless?
So high gear is finicky thing, high gear doesn’t hold it max power to stop it from stalling until it’s at its full speed. Usually if you can get a vehicle into second gear from auto, high gear should go and be fine. Now when you hit deep mud or terrain, vehicles without S power will stall and the vehicles with S power will just wheel spin. This is when you down shift, get through the patch, and do it over again.
So, the Pike is the pocket Tayga, as I keep saying. Very little it can't do, it has high power to weight and always on features. Too bad they messed up with its bed positioned backwards and too low, catching on trailers.
Another thing the devs missed is the absence of Offroad and Chained tires. That's because heavy doubles are split into two files with different width: highway and all-terrain in 1st file, offroads and chains in 2nd file. And the truck's XML misses the line that would add "wheels_heavy_double2" into the "" tag. Other heavy offroad tires exist as heavy_single1 set, but the Pike has no access to these either, it skips right to the heavy_single2, that are the MHS II and III.
I think it’s pretty much as close as you can get to being a mini Tayga. I think the Croc has better balance, but I think your pretty spot on there. Also that’s a good catch in the files! Could you imagine if it did have more tires sets?! Wow!
Hey Nathan, I wanted to know your opinion on something.
Do you think that it’s possible to complete the game using scouts only (except for missions using the seismic vibrator)?
That, and what about beating the game without building bridges?
Hey Lamp so in short I think that would be a true challenge and test of patience,l. Respect for wanting to do that. So I don’t think it could be done because in addition to the things you mentioned, there are larger pieces of cargo that scouts cannot move like 4 slot containers and logs as well. I think scouts will struggle to deliver cargo as a whole. You could modify the challenge where any 1-2 slot cargo is delivered from a scout, but there are only a few scouts that I would feel comfortable pulling loads of cargo. This will make the selection very slim. Concerning bridges, I’m not sure enough to give you a Yes or a No on that one.
@@NProvince perhaps that could be a new series trying to beat the game without bridges
Indeed that vehicle can do it, but in places like Amur being able to pull 4 slots through those conditions. It would be pretty tough
Some bridges will probably need to be built. (Black River Bridge, Black Badger Lake Bridges are good to have but I guess not needed, etc). As for scouts only, not many scout can haul cargo effectively. The best for the task are probably the F-750, loadstar, and Yar 87. Those aren’t exactly early game.
@@NProvince The F-750 is actually capable of hauling 4 slot containers. The only cargo that it can’t haul are logs and train segments. If you’re planning to do Scout only, F-750 will certainly be your friend.
Edit: I forgot to scroll down :l
Oops
Cool truck, not that big of a deal but it can do things other can't
It is a very capable smaller truck for sure :)
You should also mention it's poor steering angle. Sometimes I have to reverse the truck halfway through the turn just to not drive into a ditch.
Steering angle is a valid con indeed :)
Surprised you didnt include the struggle with towing trailers.
I did mention briefly the collision issues with hitch trailers and saddle trailers. I feel like I’ve explained the collision issues on other reviews enough that viewers understand that some trailers just aren’t a good option. Hauling weight in general, I havent seen any issues.
@@NProvince ah my fault I'll have to pay closer attention next time. Great review though- interesting to see this DLC as an easier set of maps- like a cross between Michigan and Taymyr
I honestly really like it. It's cute, versatile and quite decent. Funny thing until now I didn't relize it didn't have chained wheels loke what wait what for real? Why? It's disappointing really. Like really disappointing I dnd't realize that despite having driven this thing for many hours now. I think it's just a better 310E at this point. Mudtires, more add-ons and a roof rack. I use it a lot with the stock tires because I like the looks and the challange and it surprised me a lot. It's very capable to me and actually became one of my new top three favourites. The bed is actually bugged aparently it sits quite a bit too low where it clips into the frame of the truck and causes trailers to behave strange. I use a mod that fixes it but it should hopefully be adressed by the devs soon. Nevertheless I really like the looks, sounds and utility of this truck. Basically one of the Vorons that trades offroad capabilities for more versatility like sideboard bed + crane and trailer combo, long logs and crane and the vibrator. I really like it, eventhough it pains me a bit to see my 310E slightly getting powercreeped. Nice review as usual 👍👍
I appreciate those kind words. It does seem like a buffed 310E, but I still love the 310. The Pike has some drawbacks with hitch trailer contact and such, but overall it’s growing on me a lot
Everybody knows the Pike is the king of the Pontar. 😉😂😂
Oh no Step truck...
the truck is somehow like cheating, it sticks to the ground as if we had an gravity pull like on mars...
It’s pretty stable for sure
This truck was total trash in og spintires. It could get stock with no load. Now caries long logs. Lol devs totally dropped the ball here. Zil 131 was decent tho.
this thing on don is down right worthless its only good at getting stuck