Thanks for sharing this and nice job! I was looking for exactly this to dress up some freshwater striper lures. Your tutorial I believe has pointed me in the right direction.
I'm just now researching videos to get into tying my own treble and single spinner hooks for trout and smallmouth here in NC, and maybe that will lead into tying my own flies. Appreciate the help....good stuff
@@_JimS What is your budget and how large do you want to go? In this video I'm using a Griffin Odyssey Spider, I have used that vise for well over a decade and it is still like new. I've tied jigs with hooks up to a 5/0 with it and as small as a #10 but it is rated down to a #28. It is a true rotary vise that is under $100 and I still have it and it is still like new and I've tied 10s of thousands of jigs and hooks with it. I currently use a Griffin Montana Mongoose, it has a few more features but it is a little more expensive at a hair over $200. So what are you looking to spend, that will help a lot in getting you a vise.
@@smalljaw Well I won’t be doing large numbers like you so I’d say up to $80. I’d like to find someone that is getting out of tying and buy the whole lot, but that’s probably few and far between
Thanks for the video. I am about ready to try my first ever treble hook dressing. It appears, like me, you are a lefty. Very few videos for left handers. Do you have one showing a left handed whip finish? Either with or without a whip finishing tool! Thanks!
Like your stuff. Working mostly on lead head buck tails . Mine sure don't look as nice as yours but are getting better. Thanks for showing me how it's supposed to look.
Thank you for your kind words, I truly appreciate it!!!! I'm also very happy that the videos helped in some small way to get you started on your tackle making journey, feel free to ask a question if you need help with something!!!!
Thank you for posting looking for a winter project to do I am tired of paying three to four bucks on rooster tails so this winter I am going to make I own thanks again!!!
Another great video I enjoyed watching every second. I want to dress treble hook's but I want them flat like a fishtail, is there a way it can be done?
Thanks Andrew!!! I understand what you want to do but I don't know if you can do it. The reason being is you'd have to tie on the adjacent sides of the hook. The problem is the sides don't line up so the feathers won't line up the way you want.
@@smalljaw thank you for replying I have only just noticed the reply when I came to watch your video again! You've explained the problems perfectly. I'd like to tie one very similar to the Mrs Simpson but the arrangement of the treble hooks are spoiling the lie of the feather's! It's not helping that I'm new to fly tying but I'm really enjoying the experience. Thanks once again take care my friend 👍😷👍
How long would you make it from the end of the hook to hang out like a tag meaning the feathers, the flash or hair if it’s far as materials because I know on most flies, do you want it the length of the hook shank?
There isn't any real rule of thumb. It depends on what the individual is looking for. For me, I like about a hook shank and a half for most material. The exception is flash, I prefer a single hook shank length. The reason is because flash isn't about action or profile but to produce a flash so added length isn't necessary.
I'm interested in trying this ... I've always wondered why stickbaits don't usually have dressed hooks, anyway. Any recommendations for something to put in the dressing that will hold a lot of fish attractant like Smelly Gelly or Gulp Alive! solution? I've always thought that would be a nice touch.
If you add scent to the feathers you will ruin the action they provide. If you add anything to hold scent to the treble it won't help as it could hinder the action of the lure itself by causing too much drag. The best way of adding scent is to place it on the bait itself, sorry if that isn't what you wanted to hear.
@@smalljaw Thank you -- the truth is always what I want to hear because I want to catch more and bigger fish. Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated. :)
@@smalljaw hang on though -- could you explain a bit more? Why would the feathers being wet with attractant be different than them being wet with water? (Especially a liquidy attractant like the Gulp juice). And isn't the action of the feathers actually provided by the hook swinging around, just more visible because of the dressing? If I'm going to troll a stickbait with dressed hooks, wouldn't the dressed hooks be in constant motion, anyway? I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing here.
@@leomdk939 There are two types of dressed trebles, those found on in-line spinners and those on walking, topwater, and jerkbaits. The latter are usually dressed with hackle and some type of flash, usually Krystal flash. They are on those baits to add some type of action while the bait is paused. Gulp, or other liquid attractants have ingredients that will cause the barbs of the feather to matted down. Remember, these aren't water, they are made to adhere to the bait they are applied to. I hope that makes sense.
@@smalljaw I see, yes that makes sense for a pause-and-go retrieve of a cast. In that case probably best to go without attractant to keep that secondary action. I think for trolling, though, it sounds like there would still be a benefit to adding attractant to the dressing, since the bait would be in constant motion of some sort and the dressing would still highlight the swinging action of the trailing treble hook, making it look more like a tail fin, no?
+TheHook Thank you!! The thread is Danville flat waxed nylon 210 denier, you can get it any place that sells fly tying stuff, the same thing for the feathers. Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops both carry the stuff if you live close enough to one or both of those.
+smalljaw haha was just about to ask the same question as +TheHook. but thank you for the information. I need some quality stuff I tried using real pheasant feathers from one I shot last year and they are extremely difficult to work with lol.
+Brandon Frasier one question though. will they also have that stringer that's holding your line or will I have to go to a craft store for that like joanne fabrics.
Yes, it is called a "Bobbin" just like you find on a sewing machine. Just go in to the fly fishing section and the same places that sell the thread and feathers will have those as well.
I like tight inward bc it is very clean and flows. It's however you want to do it. Hard As Nail need like several days to dry. If you take it out the next day, I believe it comes off in the water as noticed my trailers discolor at the threads. Recommend what the pros use....uv will light cure....for me I use hand battered epoxy or Sally's but I am gonna go UV. The UV stuff does tack I believe but is more flexible and you can just hit the tacky with alcohol.
You are right, Sally Hansen's does take time to dry and it takes a few days for the smell to go away. I started using Loon Water Based Head Cement and it has no odor and dries fast. UV resin is good but it is too expensive if you are going to do a lot of these.
Thank you for confirming. I always hated that people recommend it but don't talk about the flaws.....then someone like me goes out and messed up my trailers and have to redo. Yeah, even for recreational use, the Loon UV stuff is pricy...that's not even including a turner and UV lights. My point initially was that epoxy is better bc it takes the same amount of time to dry with a better result. I'd have to try cement and UV, then see which I like best for convenience.
Thanx very much for sharing your methods/techniques; I firmly believe in the effectiveness of feathered tail hooks on my topwater and jerkbaits. Now I have something new to do in front of the tv when I can't actually go fishing. Just wondering, what make/model vise is that you're using? It's a rotating vise, yes? Pedestal or clamp on? Thanx again for the excellent tutorial!!
Thank you very much for watching!!! The vise I use is a Griffin Odyssey Spider which is a rotary vise. The vise is a clamp on but you can get a pedestal for it.
Hey! I'm new to this but am very interested in getting into it. What's the name of the two tools you used to feed the wire and near the end tighten the wire?
By wire I'm guessing you mean the thread. The tool used for the thread is called a bobbin and the end knot is done with a whip finish tool. You can whip finish by hand but I find the tool easier to use.
now that's something I can handle! since I can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time! I would like do something like that for my old muskie Daredevil spoons? maybe deer or squirrel hair with feathers and flash in the center? thanks for the info!
You don't have to use red thread, it is just the most common. The reason you see it used most is because you are adding an attractor to the treble hook so a bit of color is thought to also help.
+Sean Coleman The tool is called a "bobbin" and the ones I recommend have a ceramic insert in the tube to keep the thread from grooving it and creating a rough spot.
It does but it has to be a thin layer, too thick and it will be tacky for some time. I switched to Loon Water Based Head Cement, really quick dry time and it holds up really well too!!
I was about to buy dressed hooks when I realized I TIE FLIES!
THANK YOU FOR THE TUTORIAL! SAVING US 💰 🤑
Thanks Josh, I'm glad it helped you!!!
Dan, thank you so much.
I’m never going to buy feathered treble hooks again. It will be nice to opt for the style and brand of hooks I like.
Thank you Rick, glad you liked this!!!!
Thanks for sharing this and nice job! I was looking for exactly this to dress up some freshwater striper lures. Your tutorial I believe has pointed me in the right direction.
Thank you very much!!!
I'm just now researching videos to get into tying my own treble and single spinner hooks for trout and smallmouth here in NC, and maybe that will lead into tying my own flies. Appreciate the help....good stuff
Thanks Jim!!! Once you do a couple of hooks you will be able ti tie anything you want!!
@@smalljaw That’s what hopping. Any suggestions for a vise, I want something that will takes me far, not replacing every year
@@_JimS What is your budget and how large do you want to go? In this video I'm using a Griffin Odyssey Spider, I have used that vise for well over a decade and it is still like new. I've tied jigs with hooks up to a 5/0 with it and as small as a #10 but it is rated down to a #28. It is a true rotary vise that is under $100 and I still have it and it is still like new and I've tied 10s of thousands of jigs and hooks with it. I currently use a Griffin Montana Mongoose, it has a few more features but it is a little more expensive at a hair over $200. So what are you looking to spend, that will help a lot in getting you a vise.
@@smalljaw Well I won’t be doing large numbers like you so I’d say up to $80. I’d like to find someone that is getting out of tying and buy the whole lot, but that’s probably few and far between
@@_JimS www.amazon.com/Griffin-Odyssey-Spider-Tying-Vise/dp/B0002O069O
Thanks for the video. I am about ready to try my first ever treble hook dressing. It appears, like me, you are a lefty. Very few videos for left handers. Do you have one showing a left handed whip finish? Either with or without a whip finishing tool!
Thanks!
Like your stuff. Working mostly on lead head buck tails . Mine sure don't look as nice as yours but are getting better. Thanks for showing me how it's supposed to look.
I have made several of these for my Lures . Thanks enjoyed it .
hows your experience with them ? i got 6 trebbles i wanna feather to put on my wobbler baits :)
You always have good videos! I am going to be starting marking all kinds of things and u helped a lot!
Thank you for your kind words, I truly appreciate it!!!! I'm also very happy that the videos helped in some small way to get you started on your tackle making journey, feel free to ask a question if you need help with something!!!!
Exactly the walkthrough I needed. Thank you!
Thank you watching, I'm glad it helped!!!!
Another awesome job, well done sir 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you Carlos!!!!
Thank you for posting looking for a winter project to do I am tired of paying three to four bucks on rooster tails so this winter I am going to make I own thanks again!!!
Thanks for watching!!!
Another very good informal video on tying thx keep up awesome video enjoy watching them
Thank you very much!!
Looks great, like all the rest you do.
Thank you Tim!!!
Another great video I enjoyed watching every second. I want to dress treble hook's but I want them flat like a fishtail, is there a way it can be done?
Thanks Andrew!!! I understand what you want to do but I don't know if you can do it. The reason being is you'd have to tie on the adjacent sides of the hook. The problem is the sides don't line up so the feathers won't line up the way you want.
@@smalljaw thank you for replying I have only just noticed the reply when I came to watch your video again! You've explained the problems perfectly. I'd like to tie one very similar to the Mrs Simpson but the arrangement of the treble hooks are spoiling the lie of the feather's! It's not helping that I'm new to fly tying but I'm really enjoying the experience. Thanks once again take care my friend 👍😷👍
I never know how to finish that knot but I have tied tons of trailers. I also never done it with a Bobbin. A Bobbin would make it easy.
Using the right tools makes everything easier!!
How long would you make it from the end of the hook to hang out like a tag meaning the feathers, the flash or hair if it’s far as materials because I know on most flies, do you want it the length of the hook shank?
There isn't any real rule of thumb. It depends on what the individual is looking for. For me, I like about a hook shank and a half for most material. The exception is flash, I prefer a single hook shank length. The reason is because flash isn't about action or profile but to produce a flash so added length isn't necessary.
I'm interested in trying this ... I've always wondered why stickbaits don't usually have dressed hooks, anyway. Any recommendations for something to put in the dressing that will hold a lot of fish attractant like Smelly Gelly or Gulp Alive! solution? I've always thought that would be a nice touch.
If you add scent to the feathers you will ruin the action they provide. If you add anything to hold scent to the treble it won't help as it could hinder the action of the lure itself by causing too much drag. The best way of adding scent is to place it on the bait itself, sorry if that isn't what you wanted to hear.
@@smalljaw Thank you -- the truth is always what I want to hear because I want to catch more and bigger fish. Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated. :)
@@smalljaw hang on though -- could you explain a bit more? Why would the feathers being wet with attractant be different than them being wet with water? (Especially a liquidy attractant like the Gulp juice). And isn't the action of the feathers actually provided by the hook swinging around, just more visible because of the dressing? If I'm going to troll a stickbait with dressed hooks, wouldn't the dressed hooks be in constant motion, anyway? I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing here.
@@leomdk939 There are two types of dressed trebles, those found on in-line spinners and those on walking, topwater, and jerkbaits. The latter are usually dressed with hackle and some type of flash, usually Krystal flash. They are on those baits to add some type of action while the bait is paused. Gulp, or other liquid attractants have ingredients that will cause the barbs of the feather to matted down. Remember, these aren't water, they are made to adhere to the bait they are applied to. I hope that makes sense.
@@smalljaw I see, yes that makes sense for a pause-and-go retrieve of a cast. In that case probably best to go without attractant to keep that secondary action. I think for trolling, though, it sounds like there would still be a benefit to adding attractant to the dressing, since the bait would be in constant motion of some sort and the dressing would still highlight the swinging action of the trailing treble hook, making it look more like a tail fin, no?
dude awesome! can you tell me where to get the feathers, and red line tie?
+TheHook Thank you!! The thread is Danville flat waxed nylon 210 denier, you can get it any place that sells fly tying stuff, the same thing for the feathers. Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops both carry the stuff if you live close enough to one or both of those.
+smalljaw haha was just about to ask the same question as +TheHook. but thank you for the information. I need some quality stuff I tried using real pheasant feathers from one I shot last year and they are extremely difficult to work with lol.
+Brandon Frasier one question though. will they also have that stringer that's holding your line or will I have to go to a craft store for that like joanne fabrics.
Yes, it is called a "Bobbin" just like you find on a sewing machine. Just go in to the fly fishing section and the same places that sell the thread and feathers will have those as well.
Thank you very informative and excellent teaching!
+10Cmmccloud Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!!
I like tight inward bc it is very clean and flows. It's however you want to do it. Hard As Nail need like several days to dry. If you take it out the next day, I believe it comes off in the water as noticed my trailers discolor at the threads. Recommend what the pros use....uv will light cure....for me I use hand battered epoxy or Sally's but I am gonna go UV. The UV stuff does tack I believe but is more flexible and you can just hit the tacky with alcohol.
You are right, Sally Hansen's does take time to dry and it takes a few days for the smell to go away. I started using Loon Water Based Head Cement and it has no odor and dries fast. UV resin is good but it is too expensive if you are going to do a lot of these.
Thank you for confirming. I always hated that people recommend it but don't talk about the flaws.....then someone like me goes out and messed up my trailers and have to redo. Yeah, even for recreational use, the Loon UV stuff is pricy...that's not even including a turner and UV lights. My point initially was that epoxy is better bc it takes the same amount of time to dry with a better result. I'd have to try cement and UV, then see which I like best for convenience.
I love it
Thanx very much for sharing your methods/techniques; I firmly believe in the effectiveness of feathered tail hooks on my topwater and jerkbaits. Now I have something new to do in front of the tv when I can't actually go fishing. Just wondering, what make/model vise is that you're using? It's a rotating vise, yes? Pedestal or clamp on? Thanx again for the excellent tutorial!!
Thank you very much for watching!!! The vise I use is a Griffin Odyssey Spider which is a rotary vise. The vise is a clamp on but you can get a pedestal for it.
Good stuff.
Mui bien amigo
Where can I buy supplies I can't find anything to tie my own stuff ,
www.barlowstackle.com?afmc=SMALLJAW
What kind of vise are you using to hold the hook?
What thread is that?
Danville 210 denier flat waxed nylon.
You're cool man thanks for posting this video good info no bullshit
Thanks for the kind words and support!!!
Hey! I'm new to this but am very interested in getting into it. What's the name of the two tools you used to feed the wire and near the end tighten the wire?
By wire I'm guessing you mean the thread. The tool used for the thread is called a bobbin and the end knot is done with a whip finish tool. You can whip finish by hand but I find the tool easier to use.
@@smalljaw thank you, big help!
now that's something I can handle! since I can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time! I would like do something like that for my old muskie Daredevil spoons? maybe deer or squirrel hair with feathers and flash in the center? thanks for the info!
There you go Michael!!!! Add a material, subtract a material, more flash, less flash, it is 100% up to you!!!!!
Awesome teaching video.
Thank you for the comment, I really appreciate it!!
why does everyone use red thread? is that the only color works r is it just the best color to use?
You don't have to use red thread, it is just the most common. The reason you see it used most is because you are adding an attractor to the treble hook so a bit of color is thought to also help.
Thank you !
Thanks for watching!!
I like that
What is the name of the tool that your thread feeds through that you use to tie the hook?
+Sean Coleman The tool is called a "bobbin" and the ones I recommend have a ceramic insert in the tube to keep the thread from grooving it and creating a rough spot.
I will make my own trebels
What kind of vise is that?
Griffin Odyssey Spider Vise.
Cool jig I'd fish it.....
do you sell custom made jigs you've done.
right on thanks dude! small jaws for life! you should make some videos of you slayin em with your jigs etc.
Thanks for the video
+Robert Belt Your very welcome, thanks for watching!!!
That hard as nails stuff doesn't get hard
It does but it has to be a thin layer, too thick and it will be tacky for some time. I switched to Loon Water Based Head Cement, really quick dry time and it holds up really well too!!
That's funny
Too many umm’s, sounds like obimmer!
simple thing, want to teach people, fool?
enjoyed the vid. ty.
Thanks Luke!!!