The group leader is definitely hired by Vaught. A place to bring together the victims of supes, tell them not to get angry or fight back - and we also saw they're not allowed to name their attackers. A great way to make it more difficult for members to go after an attacker, to avenge them or something similar. Telling the victims to let go, to accept their losses and never speak out... fuckin' genius way to protect the supes reign of terror.
And also to keep track of the victims as well. Any that look like they might speak out and cause trouble, the group leader can give Vought a heads up, to get their lawyers ready to either bribe or intimidate them into silence, and if neither of those work... well, I guess they'll get a visit from Black Noir.
No wonder that Vought writer Seth was there, he's probably sit there gathering stories from these victims and trying to make it better for his hero's origin story pitches(maybe movie scripts too), you know. Skppied those sensitive topic to make sure when they introducing new hero, no one or non of these victims will remember their trauma and losses.
They don’t have the the resources that butcher does tho. Butcher got someone like hughie MM Frenchie and even kikimo powerful ass to guide him in certain areas and team up on supes. These guys right here tho let’s be honest WTF they finna do to a supe without the help butcher gets ?
@@LaCokaNostra_ still tho he can’t do it alone there were many times where frenchies knowledge of the tech they are using or MM Eq Hughes navigation skills that helped him. He use to work for the CIA sure but that type of training isn’t enough for him to be a lone wolf
What I find great about Urban’s performance is as intimidating as he is he almost never raises his voice like that - all he’s thinking about is Rebecca, and he actually snaps and it reveal his real vulnerability and, most ironically, in a support group… amazing writing
This is one of my favorite scenes of the entire show. I love how Butcher doesn’t hold back, and plus he warned them twice, so that’s their fault they got what they got. This scene is what made Butcher one of my favorite characters in the series. They didn’t take him seriously, so he taught them a lesson.
I double dare you,Butcher's story was the most tragic out of all those who were present there,that's what makes this scene really good and the way Karl Urban delivers that speech is frickin Gold.
Tek only became perverted and gross when jews and women took full control of the show, we still don't know whether season 1 tek knight did it on purpose or not
The people in that group are ridiculous simps. In Marvel, when heroes mess up, people aren’t afraid to speak out against them. Just ask J. Jonah Jameson of the Daily Bugle.
There's a really big difference so u shouldn't be comparing both universes, i mean if spiderman accidentally let someone fall of a building and that person gets badly hurt, he will take the responsbility, he will care because he's a good superhero. Instead, well, i don't know why should i tell and example but think about homelander, did he cared when he 'helped' that su|cid3 girl? Or take the responsbility for the plane that he let fall, with all these people, you know, with that kind of hero i would better be at home without my head ripped off, instead of complaining
JJJ is a conspiracy theorist who claims the attack on New York was an inside job and that the chitari were all crisis actors. He even claims ultron was created by the government for population control
Lol your looking at it from the fiction standpoint 😂 the supes here heavily protected products and if they fuck up it's covered up so they'll never have to take actual responsibility
@@josegc9802to add onto that, in the marvel universe, theres no "Superhero company" meaning there's no one running PR or manipulating victims into silence. Notice how he said he wasn't allowed to say who it was who hurt him? No doubt Ashley forced him to sign an NDA to not go public. In marvel the heros reputation is purely whatever the public happens to see. They don't do interviews or press junctions and no one is trying to hide dirty laundry from prying eyes.
@@josegc9802 Well the problem there is that it starts to lean into the whole Civil War issue. People start sensationalizing what they see and what happens and taking it out of context. With JJ Jameson, he is most of the time very incorrect and purposefully twists his media to fit that sentiment. Suddenly everyone starts hating on Spidey because they are just as complaint and taking things at face value. Then you have Spidey's problem of taking too much flak for something beyond his control. In this one recent issues he was helping firefighters and unfortunately they all missed a woman's husband who was still in there. She cried out and criticized him , but that was mostly the grief in the moment talking. My favorite part about it is that one of the fire fighters actually talks to him about it and tries to help him deal because he had had a similar situation happen. No matter what training or powers they have, they are not always going to save everyone because they are ultimately human and can only do so much. My point is, in comparison to the Boys here, is that the pendulum keeps swinging from one end to the other. Either people are compliant towards the genuine injustices here and apathetic about it, or they are quick to lash out against incidents when people genuinely tried to help and fell short of expectations.
I actually hoping we get to see ice princess in the next season. Is she a good person that lost control of her powers for a second or is she really a sadistic psychopath like Butcher claims? Statistically though Butcher is most likely right.
i think it’s so funny butcher did all that and when he was leaving he grabbed his coat from the floor and setup the chair by accident or maybe butchers just that cool
I've always wondered why I felt so irritated whenever someone, whether it be in TV/media in general or in real life, says to try to move on whenever someone dies or some other misfortune. Seeing this scene from this show, along with reading an essay called "The Abolition of Work" by Bob Black, I realized that it wasn't the lesson in and of itself that was the problem - it was the way it's used to keep people compliant and ignorant from seeing the real cause of so much misery in our time - civilization.
The way I see it, that particular wording comes off as very disrespectful or dismissive of the person who died. Like they suddenly don’t matter anymore. To be clear, I am not against letting go of pain, hate, and vengeance because those are inherently corrosive and self-destructive feelings that can make things worse. But that does not mean standing by and doing nothing in the face of injustice or treating someone like they are suddenly a big fat nothing. Cause there is a thin line between acceptance and abandonment. Especially to survivors
yknow its funny, the people whining about how bad human civilization is are all non-disabled cishet white people in already comftorable positions, im sorry but fuck the idea of no civilization, it comes from a place of priveledge and a misrepresentation of how humanity is supposed to truly be or whatever, its not civilization, its capitalism and cishet white people having their boots on everyone elses necks, its car centrism and the uglification of cities with bad urban planning, not agriculture or whatever
yea i use to feel like that when the few support groups reconised me from before and just don't gaf didn't wanna talk about thing it just reminds me when people went soft on media then defends company's like capcom and the rest. marvel studios dc universe even SEGA (tho that company i no longer hated after giving the sonic games more attention then ever) even the worse ones square enix (the ones who lost the lawsuit of Kane a lynch on purpose) 2:24 and yea FK letting go too.
Kinda weird like they made Tek-Knight look like his Iron Man/Batman knock off comics selt when in the show he is pretty much a depraved Sherlock instead.
@thecouncilofnine4692 I mean batman is a detective, and apparently tek knight does have a suit as he’s a playable character in vought’s Mortal Kombat 11/Injustice 2 spoof
Love this scene, it’s really inspiring. I saw this and I seriously thought to myself “ya know what, yea! Why the f*ck do I always turn the other cheek?!”
At least with the icegirl it didnt seem purposeful but she did dish him after that with apparently no compensation, an awful dick move, and she could even know that would happen too. Also im totally shocked tek knight didnt abuse the girl, great writing to have introduced him so early.
This lowkey is piece of the amount of hate, grudge and rage Butcher feels about the Supes, including the one he hates the most out of all of them. After S4 ended this scene hit different but now with Homelander taking over the presidency and making his own regime. With him driving off with the virus, he's done taking any more chances and I think that he reached his breaking point with trying to save Ryan so Season V, it's on sight for all supes.
In a world where corrupt heroes run the show how could you just move on? Especially when most of them prolly don’t feel bad. Butcher is on point here. I mean look at A-train, he most likely didn’t give a rats ass about killing Hughie’s girlfriend until his image started falling apart. Now he’s a fan favorite but at first he was bad as all the other supes.
"Where's your fucking rage? Where's your self-respect!?" Love that line. The contempt Butcher has when he spits it out.
*“Where’s Your FUCKIN RAGE?! YOUR SELF RESPECT?!! FUCK LETTING GO”*
His acting is so impactful and rageful man 3:26
“Continue the Ice Capades.” Damn that was so uncalled for 😂
What does ice skaters have to do with getting your peepee snapped off tho? I don’t get the joke, I’m slow
Butcher is the living embodiment of the phrase, "God forgives, I don't."
nah butcher doesnt believe in god
“he’s got a hard on for war, kids with cancer….”
The group leader is definitely hired by Vaught. A place to bring together the victims of supes, tell them not to get angry or fight back - and we also saw they're not allowed to name their attackers. A great way to make it more difficult for members to go after an attacker, to avenge them or something similar. Telling the victims to let go, to accept their losses and never speak out... fuckin' genius way to protect the supes reign of terror.
Damn didn't thought of that
And also to keep track of the victims as well.
Any that look like they might speak out and cause trouble, the group leader can give Vought a heads up, to get their lawyers ready to either bribe or intimidate them into silence, and if neither of those work... well, I guess they'll get a visit from Black Noir.
@@liamcollins9183 Why didn't butcher get arrested then though?
No wonder that Vought writer Seth was there, he's probably sit there gathering stories from these victims and trying to make it better for his hero's origin story pitches(maybe movie scripts too), you know. Skppied those sensitive topic to make sure when they introducing new hero, no one or non of these victims will remember their trauma and losses.
They can.The girl in a wheelchair named tech Knight
What I love about this scene is the expression on the peoples face. They maybe questioning everything about superheroes and that butcher maybe right
They don’t have the the resources that butcher does tho. Butcher got someone like hughie MM Frenchie and even kikimo powerful ass to guide him in certain areas and team up on supes. These guys right here tho let’s be honest WTF they finna do to a supe without the help butcher gets ?
@@JoeJoe-yn5lc from taking shit on their doorstep to attempted murder.
@@JoeJoe-yn5lcdude was in the SAS. Sure the boys are a great asset but the man can handle himself
@@LaCokaNostra_ still tho he can’t do it alone there were many times where frenchies knowledge of the tech they are using or MM Eq Hughes navigation skills that helped him. He use to work for the CIA sure but that type of training isn’t enough for him to be a lone wolf
What I find great about Urban’s performance is as intimidating as he is he almost never raises his voice like that - all he’s thinking about is Rebecca, and he actually snaps and it reveal his real vulnerability and, most ironically, in a support group… amazing writing
"continue the ice capades" damn that's cold 🤣
Literally!
That's cold
Man, you are COLDhearted
This is one of my favorite scenes of the entire show. I love how Butcher doesn’t hold back, and plus he warned them twice, so that’s their fault they got what they got. This scene is what made Butcher one of my favorite characters in the series. They didn’t take him seriously, so he taught them a lesson.
I double dare you,Butcher's story was the most tragic out of all those who were present there,that's what makes this scene really good and the way Karl Urban delivers that speech is frickin Gold.
After watching Season 4 Episode 6 Tek Knight totally broke that woman’s spine on purpose and he likely got off on it too
literally i was like oh shit😭
I doubt it. A spine doesn't have a hole
Tek only became perverted and gross when jews and women took full control of the show, we still don't know whether season 1 tek knight did it on purpose or not
@@Nemsuirdid you actually just blame that on the Jews, Jesus my guy get some help
he was probably trying to make a hole
The people in that group are ridiculous simps. In Marvel, when heroes mess up, people aren’t afraid to speak out against them. Just ask J. Jonah Jameson of the Daily Bugle.
There's a really big difference so u shouldn't be comparing both universes, i mean if spiderman accidentally let someone fall of a building and that person gets badly hurt, he will take the responsbility, he will care because he's a good superhero.
Instead, well, i don't know why should i tell and example but think about homelander, did he cared when he 'helped' that su|cid3 girl? Or take the responsbility for the plane that he let fall, with all these people, you know, with that kind of hero i would better be at home without my head ripped off, instead of complaining
JJJ is a conspiracy theorist who claims the attack on New York was an inside job and that the chitari were all crisis actors. He even claims ultron was created by the government for population control
Lol your looking at it from the fiction standpoint 😂 the supes here heavily protected products and if they fuck up it's covered up so they'll never have to take actual responsibility
@@josegc9802to add onto that, in the marvel universe, theres no "Superhero company" meaning there's no one running PR or manipulating victims into silence. Notice how he said he wasn't allowed to say who it was who hurt him? No doubt Ashley forced him to sign an NDA to not go public. In marvel the heros reputation is purely whatever the public happens to see. They don't do interviews or press junctions and no one is trying to hide dirty laundry from prying eyes.
@@josegc9802 Well the problem there is that it starts to lean into the whole Civil War issue. People start sensationalizing what they see and what happens and taking it out of context. With JJ Jameson, he is most of the time very incorrect and purposefully twists his media to fit that sentiment. Suddenly everyone starts hating on Spidey because they are just as complaint and taking things at face value. Then you have Spidey's problem of taking too much flak for something beyond his control. In this one recent issues he was helping firefighters and unfortunately they all missed a woman's husband who was still in there. She cried out and criticized him , but that was mostly the grief in the moment talking. My favorite part about it is that one of the fire fighters actually talks to him about it and tries to help him deal because he had had a similar situation happen. No matter what training or powers they have, they are not always going to save everyone because they are ultimately human and can only do so much.
My point is, in comparison to the Boys here, is that the pendulum keeps swinging from one end to the other. Either people are compliant towards the genuine injustices here and apathetic about it, or they are quick to lash out against incidents when people genuinely tried to help and fell short of expectations.
Never realized that guy was Seth until I remembered a comment talking about one of the idea guys losing their meat stick lmao
I actually hoping we get to see ice princess in the next season. Is she a good person that lost control of her powers for a second or is she really a sadistic psychopath like Butcher claims? Statistically though Butcher is most likely right.
i think it’s so funny butcher did all that and when he was leaving he grabbed his coat from the floor and setup the chair by accident or maybe butchers just that cool
I've always wondered why I felt so irritated whenever someone, whether it be in TV/media in general or in real life, says to try to move on whenever someone dies or some other misfortune. Seeing this scene from this show, along with reading an essay called "The Abolition of Work" by Bob Black, I realized that it wasn't the lesson in and of itself that was the problem - it was the way it's used to keep people compliant and ignorant from seeing the real cause of so much misery in our time - civilization.
The way I see it, that particular wording comes off as very disrespectful or dismissive of the person who died. Like they suddenly don’t matter anymore. To be clear, I am not against letting go of pain, hate, and vengeance because those are inherently corrosive and self-destructive feelings that can make things worse. But that does not mean standing by and doing nothing in the face of injustice or treating someone like they are suddenly a big fat nothing. Cause there is a thin line between acceptance and abandonment. Especially to survivors
@@JDog2656fuck grace she's a self pitying hypocrite
Thanks for the reading recommendation 😅
yknow its funny, the people whining about how bad human civilization is are all non-disabled cishet white people in already comftorable positions, im sorry but fuck the idea of no civilization, it comes from a place of priveledge and a misrepresentation of how humanity is supposed to truly be or whatever, its not civilization, its capitalism and cishet white people having their boots on everyone elses necks, its car centrism and the uglification of cities with bad urban planning, not agriculture or whatever
This butcher is definitely back, season 5 he will be looking to get rid of all the supes once and for all
This Show will NEVER be Forgotten! So many Amazing Performances, Scenes, Story lines….It’s BEAUTIFULLY DIABOLICAL!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Now butcher has the weapon to end them all and is more powerful then ever good luck.
Giving everything what homelander did to his wife. I don’t blame him for yelling at them.
1:33
Butcher: What kind of knobber falls for a Supe?
Hughie: (Thinking) Me (Vietnam flashbacks) 😂
yea i use to feel like that when the few support groups reconised me from before and just don't gaf didn't wanna talk about thing it just reminds me when people went soft on media then defends company's like capcom and the rest. marvel studios dc universe even SEGA (tho that company i no longer hated after giving the sonic games more attention then ever) even the worse ones square enix (the ones who lost the lawsuit of Kane a lynch on purpose) 2:24 and yea FK letting go too.
This scene was so damn hilarious
same guy that said "supe genocide is wrong :(" in the latest episode
That is because he knows Kimiko, Ryan, and Annie now.
honestly the good ones are expandable for the greater good
Same guy that is now completely for supe genocide :)
(Even though he didn't kill Annie and Kimiko for some reason)
@@ronmathewjoe he did say kimiko is a useful weapon at one point he could probably use them
3 whole seasons of character development:
Kinda weird like they made Tek-Knight look like his Iron Man/Batman knock off comics selt when in the show he is pretty much a depraved Sherlock instead.
@thecouncilofnine4692 I mean batman is a detective, and apparently tek knight does have a suit as he’s a playable character in vought’s Mortal Kombat 11/Injustice 2 spoof
dont rly see him in action, only in "civil" disguise. But he checks off almost all the boxes for batman, who also is the best detective in the DCU
The writers really ruined his concept just for unfunny s3x' jokes bravo kripke
@@MJUPTOWNNN thats a dark way to look ay it
I mean Billy warned them twice, that's on them
Love this scene, it’s really inspiring. I saw this and I seriously thought to myself “ya know what, yea! Why the f*ck do I always turn the other cheek?!”
At least with the icegirl it didnt seem purposeful but she did dish him after that with apparently no compensation, an awful dick move, and she could even know that would happen too. Also im totally shocked tek knight didnt abuse the girl, great writing to have introduced him so early.
This lowkey is piece of the amount of hate, grudge and rage Butcher feels about the Supes, including the one he hates the most out of all of them. After S4 ended this scene hit different but now with Homelander taking over the presidency and making his own regime. With him driving off with the virus, he's done taking any more chances and I think that he reached his breaking point with trying to save Ryan so Season V, it's on sight for all supes.
the human-supe war arc is gonna be aninmatrix level shit
Damn, this scene would go even harder if Butcher had broken the stick
Who is here after that tek knight episode lol
Bro Butcher is just Tyler Durden.
Guys that ice capades telling guy was in the 3rd episode of season 1.Holy f-ing shit!😭
We don’t get scenes like this anymore 😢
I'm guessing when Tek Knight got referenced here, most thought about the comic version. Watch Gen V for more info.
In a world where corrupt heroes run the show how could you just move on? Especially when most of them prolly don’t feel bad. Butcher is on point here. I mean look at A-train, he most likely didn’t give a rats ass about killing Hughie’s girlfriend until his image started falling apart. Now he’s a fan favorite but at first he was bad as all the other supes.
He is right
Butcher and MM ❤
This was based
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Ice princess😂😂😂😂