I think it should be simple for most people that aren’t professionals. If you’re only going to use a chainsaw for a very limited amount of time every year, this is the saw. Even for small farm owners, small quick jobs are perfect for a battery chainsaw. If you have a small farm or need to consistently run a chainsaw as a non-professional, then gas chainsaws are a must for now. I own an Echo gas pole saw, Echo DCS-5000, Stihl MS 311, ported Echo 620p, ported Echo 7310p. I use them all, to help elderly neighbors and on my small property. I intend on buying land in the near future, so I will especially need them all. All the chainsaws get consistent use. I enjoy the 7310p the most, the thing is a dandy. Porter by Super Dave Outdoors here on TH-cam. I was cutting 28” oak with ease with the 7310p. I assure you the Echo or Ego chainsaws would struggle mightily, if it can actually make it. I aggressively sharpen all my chains, and the batter powered chainsaws just overheat or get stuck if you try to push them hard. A gas chainsaw is less prone to this happening.
The new EGO chainsaw is very impressive and I think it would be perfect for a homeowner who has an acre or so of property to take care of windblown trees and large branches after a windstorm for example. Electric chainsaws can sit for months without being used and you don’t have to worry about the fuel going bad and clogging up the carburetor and fuel system. But for big jobs where you are running the saw for hours the battery powered saws don’t have the run time that the gas saws do.
One important feature that wasn’t mentioned here - that chain on the ego is smaller (.325 pitch) than the stihl (3/8 pitch), which puts more load on the Stihl. If the stihl was running .325, it would cut even quicker than it currently is. 3/8” pitch is standard on saws above 50cc for good reason - they are a more robust chain.
I've tested both the Ego CSX5000 and the Ego CS2000, the CSX5000 definitely outperformed the CS2000, but it also outperformed Egos battery... all of them, the 8ah, the 10ah and the 12ah. Ego released this saw ahead of their current battery technology. If you're looking for a better saw to go out and work for a while, the CS2000 is the saw. The CSX5000 is only good for about 6 or 7 cuts in a 18 to 20 inch log before the battery is overheated. Put another battery in and the saw will then overheat.
I make about 3.5 cords of firewood from 12" logs a year. I hate the noise of my Stihl and the service network is expensive. Plus, I am old (77). Starting the damn thing is not always just two or three pulls. I live remote and gas and oil is very expensive. I am going electric - no question. The real question is: which one?
@j.davidcox3783 if you own other electric... try to stay with the same battery line. If not, I think the Ego CS2000, the Greenworks 20inch 60 volt kitted with the 8ah battery or the Ryobi 40v 20 inch would all work well. I haven't thoroughly tested the Ryobi yet, but it's the lightest of the 3 at 16lbs vs 19 or 20 so with the Ego and Greenworks. If you already run M18 tools, the 16 inch Milwaukee saw would get it done at under 15lbs, but definitely not as well as the first 3.
@@reusefull Good question: 'cox'? Somehow my name replaced whatever word I was trying to use. Auto correct? Or just another senior moment? Regardless, your info is appreciated. I'll seek mental help.
I like both battery and petrol saws. Climbing and light works/pruning battery all day, felling big trees and cut them up I take the petrol. So both are Great saws
I was going to say the same thing. As a professional, I need both petrol and battery. If I'm doing single cuts (or maybe 2-3 (eg quickly breaking down a large limb after a lower)) I will use a battery saw. If I am making multiple cuts (or cutting a large log) I use petrol. For the single cuts etc. it's not good for petrol engines as you are always starting them cold and they aren't run long enough to warm them up. This is where battery saws excel.
You should see the Filipinos in the Province cutting Coconut trees for lumber, they work from 7 Am to late afternoon, they make 2×4and 2×6 to any length onsite, but the NOISE going on all day can be horrible.
Interesting test for you. Try that ego on some ppe. The chain speed will eat through your chaps like they aren't there. Most trousers are rated to 20m/s. My msa200 went through my oregon yukon trousers, but my ms362 didn't
I used a borrowed corded craftsman chainsaw back in the day... it was probably a 12 or 14" toy of a saw... it effortlessly cut down/cut up a massive pine that was nearly double that at the base. The power of the little saw was over the top, and the writing was on the wall for gas saws. 25 years later my main saw is a stihl Farm Boss 370. Its heavier than it needs to be, but it's a been a great and reliable saw. I'm going to buy an EGO saw since I already have a battery from another one of their tools. If I like it, the stihl will be on marketplace.
In reality, you’d need to bring multiple batteries which is very expensive up front. I don’t think this is really for professionals as opposed to a home or ranch owner due to what you’ve pointed out.
Nice comparison. For me the gas saw is so much more practical. If there's a storm and power fails I usually have some a gas can with fuel in it, same in the woods for firewood, a gallon of fuel cuts a lot of wood. In the woods when the battery dies its significant time lost charging, after you leave the woods and find a plug.
Longevity will be everything, the Stihl will be here in 30 years. Not sure about the electric. The EGO absolutely has its nichè, perfect for the homeowner with occasional cutting or maybe a top handle electric for climbing arborists….I literally just cut up a 24” Norway maple trunk tonight with the 400c and a 25” bar. The EGO is not the tool for that job, but it would be great for other things. And…it gives the consumer a choice! My Mom has the EGO extendable hedge trimmer and THAT is a great tool! For people who don’t want the “hassle” of mixed fuel and all that…it’s another great option.
To be fair, 95% of chainsaw owners rarely ever use them to cut anything thicker than an 8" tree limb. Electric tools sit for long periods of time without having to be prepared for storage like gasoline tools and are ready to go in seconds without any preparation. I would argue that there are a lot more chainsaws that are discarded by homeowners due to clogged and neglected carbs than there ever will be electric chainsaws. This is the exact reason why I stopped using a gas mower on my yard, too many problems after winter and not worth the effort to deal with stale gas and old oil.
I run a Stihl MS362, and a MSA 70, i like the battery on smaller stuff and having it ready when i need it doing splitting the firewood, the MS362 is for felling and bucking up larger wood obiously. The batterysaw is so convenient for smaller stuff or single cuts, because you dont have to warm it up. I would have liked you to address the elephant in the room: vibrations and weight, i havent tried the EGO, but it defenitely looked a lot rougher on you, even though it used a smaller pitched chain. the small pitch chain defenitely helped it with cutting speed in the smaller wood.
As someone who owns several Dewalt electric chainsaws for a few years and about 20ish cords of wood.... The electric chainsaws are far lighter and easier on the body. They have a lot less vibration and noise. You can pick them up and they turn on instantly, allowing you to make several cuts and then set it back down to move things about. With a gas chainsaw you feel the need to cut for longer periods in one go because you have to pull start and warm it up. The electric is also imesurably safer because it instantly stops rotating the second you let go of the trigger, so in the even of a kickback as soon as you let go it stops, where as the gasser has a ton of rotational speed and momentum that will eat you up.
Two questions. How much can you get done with a battery and what’s the weight fully dressed out. You touched on balance but there’s a big difference between balance and weight. That thing looked like it weighed a fair piece
I think it will be decades until an electrical chainsaw will be above everything else spec wise to a modern 70-90cc chainsaw. And even then certain environments and situations will call in for the 2 stroke. I like electric tophandle saws for being so quiet, but its hard to beat the weight of an echo 2511. So for now, electric is heavy, underpowered (but amazing torque if you’re not in a rush), and they are not built to be easily repaired by the average person. They’re still repair friendly because they use standard available electric parts across brands
Much better than I expected. Hung in there. Would deffo be an option around the house/yard but petrol all day out in the field. Yeah always interested in new tech so keep the content coming!
I love my csx5000, really powerful. Only thing I hope they fix is if you are running it extensively the battery will overheat, and you can't run the saw for a good 10 - 15 mins.
In facts, you should use a backpack , it is way better to avoir overheating, plus the weight is halo. I did many jobs with my csx3000 and cs1800 perfection with constant cutting on huge oak threes. That the way to work with thèse tools because the heat between the engineering and the battery is way too much ...
Is it me or is the bottom of the Ego saw made of some kind of metal? Y’all should do a comparison video with this Ego and the GreenWorks 60v 20” saw, that would be cool!
I have not looked at the mounts to be fair. But yes with the right mounts you could fit a 20” bar to your 18” EGO, but… I wouldn’t bother, you will lose a load of power and not gain a lot, at the end of the day a 18” saw can cut a 36” piece of timber 👍🏼
If you're looking for power to weight, you still can't beat a gas saw. The 400c is a good comparison because its similar in weight. The results about met my expectations. I think they have a solid use-case as climbing/limbing/construction saws, and perhaps some light firewood applications, but I don't think they're yet viable as a hardcore commercial firewood or felling saw.
It looks too much like a Transformer for my taste, but the performance was impressive. Not just to nitpick, but I have a few comments one might want to think on if they're trying to decide between a serious battery saw and a "comparable" petrol saw. If they're claiming equal performance to a 60cc 2-stroke saw, that doesn't necessarily mean a pro saw which typically have more power to weight, among other quality improvements, but even if you want to make that comparison, a Stihl 362 would have been a more suitable match, considering the 400 is a "hotrodded" 362 that displaces 67cc. There's lots of other considerations too. Batteries are expensive, they get weaker over time/use, they can go bad, and having several batteries can easily make the saw more costly than a long-lasting gas saw. Recharging and refueling are very different processes which may be important to you. Battery saws have their pros too, especially for the residential user. They are more convenient for the occasional user. Battery saws are much quieter. Most battery saws uses a thinner chain and bar which is more efficient, but also may be a liability especially for felling.
That’s twice I’ve seen that saw this week, I’m sure it was in one of Dirt Monkeys videos, I was looking at it thinking it must be a new professional saw, the way the bar cover uses bolts instead of the usual twist handle caught my eye right away. Personally I love it, the Stihl petrol saw obviously beats it in terms of speed but it’s so little I’d be tempted just to get rid of the noise and vibration. Not that Stihl stuff vibrates much anyway, but the decibel difference there is a fair bit. The first time someone showed me a Stihl electric chainsaw I was amazed by how quiet it was.
Big question, was the chain and bar a good match up , was the Stihl using a chipper chain which would make it cut a bit faster. And what is the amp size of the EGO battery.. great video, thanks
Hi always really enjoy watching your videos. Just wondered when you do your reviews whether you could give an average price for the battery tools so people can compare with the petrol equivalent , as I think it will help people decide as factor along with others whether it’s worth changing or upgrading to battery equipment. Great work as always
A lot of battery stuff is being marketed as direct equivalents to their petrol counterparts when they aren’t. Each power source has is benefits I have a mix of both now. I think it’s still a few years away yet before petrol tools are gone. Has anyone found how bad battery saws are at discharging the dust? I wonder is it’s because the narrower chains don’t eject as good?
But are the EGO,s a throw away item if they break out of warranty that could cost you a lot of money, we all know most petrol machines you can repair and replace virtually most parts and keep them running for a obscene amount of years on a tight budget. As you love to repair older machines and sell them on how do you see this battery revolution effecting what you do buying repairing and flipping older machines. i expect battery power will become a throw away world too.
@@CA34562True! I’d bet the unit and batteries have firmware which prevents such tampering. IIRC Ego batteries are made by Samsung, so they are top notch.
@@Ranger0752some parts are very reasonable, but others are ridiculous … had a simple switch fail on an Ego line trimmer and it was 75% the price of an entire new unit - admittedly it came with a new harness. I simply replaced it with a new switch myself and solder. But it’s not very environmentally friendly that a switch could render the entire unit to the trash.
I have a Husqvarna 540i battery saw 14inch bar. It is fabulous. Probably my favourite saw for most uses. However when im having to make many big cuts the battery life goes down quickly. It is being used hard though! Hence out come one of my petrol saws to finish off the day. I think they both have a future. Not sure if i would choose ego as i dont know if there is a dealer near me and as much as anything i want that support when I buy my professional equipment. It seems husqvarna has it in battery saws (certainly top handle) at the moment as ergonomics, quality and ability are all too notch. It would be nice to see a husky being tested and not just Stihl. Cheers and keep doing the videos 😁
Hi James. Would be interesting to see the EGO saw with a Stihl bar an chain and compare them again each other. Love your videos 💪🏻 Greetings from germany 🇩🇪
I happen to have both saws. The EGO saw has incredible torque and blows through the wood at least as good as my MS400. But, the MS400 has a 28" bar, which I need on big wood here in Oregon. The kicker is fire season! We have two hour fire watch after I turn off my MS400c, and it is scary as s**t even running a gas saw in the woods. My EGO has no fire constraints, which is a bit odd. In early morning cutting I see sparks going through moss which has embedded dirt. I am very careful anyway. I have an 18" EGO saw too, which is lame and I do not like. My two year old Echo E saw is faster. I am getting a second CSX5000 for my small firewood business, given fire danger now is typically several months each year. I am 100% electric for the next months...
Power is not the problem with battery equipment. How many batteries would I need for a days work as opposed to how many litres of fuel. And if I am out in the middle of nowhere who will carry them all . Try doing a test to see how much it will cut on one charge as opposed to a tank of fuel on just about any saw .
One big problem with ego is you can’t get spare parts to repair them Compare how easy it is to maintain and repair that’s the test! no point buying a saw that you can’t repair
i think the battery ego is probably good for homeowners. if it was my profession though would still go gas. Though i think in the future the batteries will get more and more efficient and probably take over more or less
Ego is very good stuff (maybe a little bit overprised) , but in the long run for daily use(professional loggers) its better gaz chainnsaw, because if not in use , the electric start always even for 5 or 15,20 minut jobs and after 5 or 6 months , and the thing what make you chain saw performing exellent , is the correct scharpening... other than that , i would say make your choice , whether its for professional us , or occasional use have a good job
The only problem that ego has is overheating. I'd like to see what the fine print in the owners manual has to say about operation, like is there a duty cycle or what?
We dealing with EGO for 8 years and never had an overheat. Do you mean their older kit, the batteries? or the product during use? I presume you don’t mean this saw?
Pros and cons in both. The problem is the battery, it weighs and cost to much. So one question is, will the gas powered saw run out of fuel first or the Ego CSX5000 run out of battery first. I'm thinking that battery saw will die first which means need at least two batteries to begin to compete with gas power saws. I do like the design and feature of Ego CSX5000 chainsaw lot better then any battery saw I seen. Most people neve give MPS a thought, most are below 20 MPS which causes that jumpy feeling. The biggest pro of battery saw is just pull trigger, and right now that is a big deal with a sore back and wood needs cutting.... For some reason I cant picture you Brits cutting firewood. Good video review.....
Saw seems powerful enough, the issue is the power density of batteries compared to petrol. You got to carry a bunch of batteries and chargers if you plan to run that thing for a few hours. Also even with limited run time the battery weighs more than a tank of gas usually.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of the micro controller in the Ego , too fancy and prone to damage I think. Also the noise while different is still a similar level by the sounds , so there's no great advantage for urban environments from that standpoint , the manual doesn't give a decibel level though so I can't be sure on that . For the test , did your Stihl also have a brand new full chisel chain ?
you can't compare them in such a short time, lets see how long they last. you need to do a year comparison, or more. i have stihl saws 15 years old still going strong
Just looked into this a bit better . Bare machine £450 kit with 1 battery is 700 now are you ready for this . Spare battery 2 choices 2.5 is around 125 or the 5 which you will need for this saw is £250 . So if you are out in the Wilds no power around and a fair distance from your transportation for a days work you may need realistically around 10 batteries and then you have to carry them to site . This is not a great option for that is it . But for a homeowner with just a logburner cutting firewood at there property then yes I would say . But I have 4 echo chainsaws at the moment and I can do absolutely any maintenance to them full strip down and rebuild if I need to , these though absolutely no chance once they are done they go in the bin and what about battery life how long under pro use 3 month 6 month a year at most .
Well Jimbo the ole' cocker... 1. Tony Montana would have been fucked if they naughty Colombians would have had an ego saw. 2. Having rocked a 36 volt husqvarna battery saw for a while now and absolutely abused the heck out of it I can certainly vote for battery powered devices. 3. A absolutely huge advantage over petrol that battery have is they pretty much always work. No issues with carburettors no issues with misfueling no issues in general with the drive train. 4. My 36-volt husky top handle has an is most definitely missing power. And even on an 18-in bar the thing struggles. However I think it may be time to upgrade.... hashtag questionmarks
What this doesn't show you after a few more cuts the electric chainsaw stops because of overheating. Also the Stihl is fitted with a 3/8 1.6 mm chain which is a lot more heavy duty where the electric sore has a 1.3mm .325. If you put a .325 on the STIHL you would see a lot faster times at the expense of durability of course. There is definitely a place for good quality electric chainsaws in urban situations for professional and homeowner but they are for the moment niche equipment and not a replacement. Unfortunately riding this wave is cheap electric chainsaws and other garden equipment on the market just contributing to future landfill.
The problem is not the saw, its the batteries. At $300+ a peice with only a life expectancy of two years, its a money pit. They are great suburban homeowner tools, but will never be financially worthwhile for large scale contractors. Unless we get a huge breakthrough in battery technology, but I highly doubt it.
Both technologies Gas and Electric have their merits. As many have said... Electric is more than adequate for weekend warriors while the gas saws still prevail for pro's. I'm a weekend guy... the plusses of Electric are: not extremely heavy, does not get excessively hot, feels safer, less things that can break, cleaner and quieter. That list quite long... Electric, if it had the same power and the battery somehow could equal gas... then gas would go by the way of the Dodo.
Love ego I’ve got a strimmer and I love it also got 3 sthil petrol chainsaw and will never go to a battery saw I’ve been looking at the sthil battery chain though 😂😂can’t beat a sthil chainsaw
I've a old Stihl 240av probably a 25yr old saw use it regularly and abuse it... Doesn't miss a beat I can guarantee you won't say the same for that ego with it's ridiculous looking battery
I see absolutely no positive aspects about the EGO, the ego is way too expensive. You need the saw, at least 2-3batteries to work, better even 4 batteries and a charger. That is almost 2 Stihl saws. It's a gadget and you can cut a bit, but it's too expensive when you add all costs.
It depends which way you look at it. One way - buying your fuel upfront. Another is having those batteries to power other tools from the same brand which spreads the cost further. Yes vibration, quieter. I’m not saying it’s better in all circumstances but there are defo benefits
.325 1.3 (EGO) vs 3/8 1.6mm (Stihl) Is this a joke ? everyone who working with chain chainsaws will understand Same size of chain than we can compare...
Not everything works for all situations. Grandma doesn't need an 80cc saw for a few branches and small trees now and then. Electric has a place. We use both, and my Milwaukee has taken down and processed a lot of good size oak and birch trees
🤣🤣🤣 hundreds of uses in a bucket on the ground cutting 120 footers up. I’ll take my 500i or 661c with a skip tooth and aggressive grind any day over these jokers of a saw. 201C 261c 500i and 661c are my go to saws for a part time tree business. I ain’t got time to mess around with a politically charged saw that won’t last. Child please. Hard pass.
I think it should be simple for most people that aren’t professionals.
If you’re only going to use a chainsaw for a very limited amount of time every year, this is the saw. Even for small farm owners, small quick jobs are perfect for a battery chainsaw.
If you have a small farm or need to consistently run a chainsaw as a non-professional, then gas chainsaws are a must for now.
I own an Echo gas pole saw, Echo DCS-5000, Stihl MS 311, ported Echo 620p, ported Echo 7310p.
I use them all, to help elderly neighbors and on my small property.
I intend on buying land in the near future, so I will especially need them all.
All the chainsaws get consistent use. I enjoy the 7310p the most, the thing is a dandy. Porter by Super Dave Outdoors here on TH-cam. I was cutting 28” oak with ease with the 7310p. I assure you the Echo or Ego chainsaws would struggle mightily, if it can actually make it. I aggressively sharpen all my chains, and the batter powered chainsaws just overheat or get stuck if you try to push them hard. A gas chainsaw is less prone to this happening.
Finally a review of the actual commercial 20 in and not the other model.
The new EGO chainsaw is very impressive and I think it would be perfect for a homeowner who has an acre or so of property to take care of windblown trees and large branches after a windstorm for example. Electric chainsaws can sit for months without being used and you don’t have to worry about the fuel going bad and clogging up the carburetor and fuel system. But for big jobs where you are running the saw for hours the battery powered saws don’t have the run time that the gas saws do.
All you need is nine, 9 amp hours batteries, and that Ego chainsaw just might run all day.
I'm going to buy me one.
One important feature that wasn’t mentioned here - that chain on the ego is smaller (.325 pitch) than the stihl (3/8 pitch), which puts more load on the Stihl. If the stihl was running .325, it would cut even quicker than it currently is. 3/8” pitch is standard on saws above 50cc for good reason - they are a more robust chain.
I've tested both the Ego CSX5000 and the Ego CS2000, the CSX5000 definitely outperformed the CS2000, but it also outperformed Egos battery... all of them, the 8ah, the 10ah and the 12ah. Ego released this saw ahead of their current battery technology. If you're looking for a better saw to go out and work for a while, the CS2000 is the saw. The CSX5000 is only good for about 6 or 7 cuts in a 18 to 20 inch log before the battery is overheated. Put another battery in and the saw will then overheat.
I make about 3.5 cords of firewood from 12" logs a year. I hate the noise of my Stihl and the service network is expensive. Plus, I am old (77). Starting the damn thing is not always just two or three pulls. I live remote and gas and oil is very expensive. I am going electric - no question. The real question is: which one?
@j.davidcox3783 if you own other electric... try to stay with the same battery line. If not, I think the Ego CS2000, the Greenworks 20inch 60 volt kitted with the 8ah battery or the Ryobi 40v 20 inch would all work well. I haven't thoroughly tested the Ryobi yet, but it's the lightest of the 3 at 16lbs vs 19 or 20 so with the Ego and Greenworks. If you already run M18 tools, the 16 inch Milwaukee saw would get it done at under 15lbs, but definitely not as well as the first 3.
@@reusefull Thanks. Good points. I'm inclined to go Ego. I was going to Cox but your opinion counts. The cs2000 will do the job?
@j.davidcox3783 cox? CS2000 is a good choice. On sale right now for $449 at Lowes. I just got one to do some comparison testing
@@reusefull Good question: 'cox'? Somehow my name replaced whatever word I was trying to use. Auto correct? Or just another senior moment? Regardless, your info is appreciated. I'll seek mental help.
I like both battery and petrol saws. Climbing and light works/pruning battery all day, felling big trees and cut them up I take the petrol. So both are Great saws
I was going to say the same thing. As a professional, I need both petrol and battery.
If I'm doing single cuts (or maybe 2-3 (eg quickly breaking down a large limb after a lower)) I will use a battery saw. If I am making multiple cuts (or cutting a large log) I use petrol.
For the single cuts etc. it's not good for petrol engines as you are always starting them cold and they aren't run long enough to warm them up. This is where battery saws excel.
You should see the Filipinos in the Province cutting Coconut trees for lumber, they work from 7 Am to late afternoon, they make 2×4and 2×6 to any length onsite, but the NOISE going on all day can be horrible.
Interesting test for you. Try that ego on some ppe. The chain speed will eat through your chaps like they aren't there. Most trousers are rated to 20m/s. My msa200 went through my oregon yukon trousers, but my ms362 didn't
Yeah, I don’t think there is PPE suitable up to 30m/s yet. Same with the MSA300
I used a borrowed corded craftsman chainsaw back in the day... it was probably a 12 or 14" toy of a saw... it effortlessly cut down/cut up a massive pine that was nearly double that at the base. The power of the little saw was over the top, and the writing was on the wall for gas saws. 25 years later my main saw is a stihl Farm Boss 370. Its heavier than it needs to be, but it's a been a great and reliable saw. I'm going to buy an EGO saw since I already have a battery from another one of their tools. If I like it, the stihl will be on marketplace.
impressive but how many cuts between charges compared to tank full of feul on the sthil?
In reality, you’d need to bring multiple batteries which is very expensive up front. I don’t think this is really for professionals as opposed to a home or ranch owner due to what you’ve pointed out.
It is approximately 1 liter of fuel = 10 kg of batteries.
Impressive to see the EGO, still love my STIHL gas saws but battery is making its place in the market.
Would love to see an in-depth video on the saws
I will be buying the Ego commercial saw. Please do more videos like this!
Will do, thank you 👌🏽
Nice comparison. For me the gas saw is so much more practical. If there's a storm and power fails I usually have some a gas can with fuel in it, same in the woods for firewood, a gallon of fuel cuts a lot of wood. In the woods when the battery dies its significant time lost charging, after you leave the woods and find a plug.
Longevity will be everything, the Stihl will be here in 30 years. Not sure about the electric. The EGO absolutely has its nichè, perfect for the homeowner with occasional cutting or maybe a top handle electric for climbing arborists….I literally just cut up a 24” Norway maple trunk tonight with the 400c and a 25” bar. The EGO is not the tool for that job, but it would be great for other things. And…it gives the consumer a choice! My Mom has the EGO extendable hedge trimmer and THAT is a great tool! For people who don’t want the “hassle” of mixed fuel and all that…it’s another great option.
To be fair, 95% of chainsaw owners rarely ever use them to cut anything thicker than an 8" tree limb. Electric tools sit for long periods of time without having to be prepared for storage like gasoline tools and are ready to go in seconds without any preparation. I would argue that there are a lot more chainsaws that are discarded by homeowners due to clogged and neglected carbs than there ever will be electric chainsaws. This is the exact reason why I stopped using a gas mower on my yard, too many problems after winter and not worth the effort to deal with stale gas and old oil.
I run a Stihl MS362, and a MSA 70, i like the battery on smaller stuff and having it ready when i need it doing splitting the firewood, the MS362 is for felling and bucking up larger wood obiously. The batterysaw is so convenient for smaller stuff or single cuts, because you dont have to warm it up.
I would have liked you to address the elephant in the room: vibrations and weight, i havent tried the EGO, but it defenitely looked a lot rougher on you, even though it used a smaller pitched chain. the small pitch chain defenitely helped it with cutting speed in the smaller wood.
As someone who owns several Dewalt electric chainsaws for a few years and about 20ish cords of wood.... The electric chainsaws are far lighter and easier on the body. They have a lot less vibration and noise. You can pick them up and they turn on instantly, allowing you to make several cuts and then set it back down to move things about. With a gas chainsaw you feel the need to cut for longer periods in one go because you have to pull start and warm it up. The electric is also imesurably safer because it instantly stops rotating the second you let go of the trigger, so in the even of a kickback as soon as you let go it stops, where as the gasser has a ton of rotational speed and momentum that will eat you up.
Two questions. How much can you get done with a battery and what’s the weight fully dressed out. You touched on balance but there’s a big difference between balance and weight. That thing looked like it weighed a fair piece
We will add this to the next video so see what the results are, thanks Arron 👍🏼
Hi James, battery equipment is getting better but for cutting big stuff i still prefer the petrol, great review and demonstration 👍
I think it will be decades until an electrical chainsaw will be above everything else spec wise to a modern 70-90cc chainsaw. And even then certain environments and situations will call in for the 2 stroke.
I like electric tophandle saws for being so quiet, but its hard to beat the weight of an echo 2511. So for now, electric is heavy, underpowered (but amazing torque if you’re not in a rush), and they are not built to be easily repaired by the average person. They’re still repair friendly because they use standard available electric parts across brands
Much better than I expected. Hung in there. Would deffo be an option around the house/yard but petrol all day out in the field. Yeah always interested in new tech so keep the content coming!
Thanks Gareth. I have to agree 👍🏼
I love my csx5000, really powerful. Only thing I hope they fix is if you are running it extensively the battery will overheat, and you can't run the saw for a good 10 - 15 mins.
Ooo, I haven’t found that yet. We will push ours a bit harder to see if it does the same! I’ve got an idea to pitch to you, I will message you 👍🏼
Have you made a video on the Ego CSX5000?👍
In facts, you should use a backpack , it is way better to avoir overheating, plus the weight is halo. I did many jobs with my csx3000 and cs1800 perfection with constant cutting on huge oak threes. That the way to work with thèse tools because the heat between the engineering and the battery is way too much ...
They are defo getting better. Need to sort the looks and sound though.
As one of my guys said the other day all. They need a synthesiser to make engine noises 👍🏼
I'm curious what size battery you used for the test.... It makes a huge difference.
Is it me or is the bottom of the Ego saw made of some kind of metal? Y’all should do a comparison video with this Ego and the GreenWorks 60v 20” saw, that would be cool!
New sub here ,Ego ROCKS!they are pushing the boundaries!
Can i use the 20 inch bar and chain on a 18 inch ego?
I have not looked at the mounts to be fair. But yes with the right mounts you could fit a 20” bar to your 18” EGO, but… I wouldn’t bother, you will lose a load of power and not gain a lot, at the end of the day a 18” saw can cut a 36” piece of timber 👍🏼
Definitely wanna see more tests
If you're looking for power to weight, you still can't beat a gas saw. The 400c is a good comparison because its similar in weight. The results about met my expectations. I think they have a solid use-case as climbing/limbing/construction saws, and perhaps some light firewood applications, but I don't think they're yet viable as a hardcore commercial firewood or felling saw.
It looks too much like a Transformer for my taste, but the performance was impressive. Not just to nitpick, but I have a few comments one might want to think on if they're trying to decide between a serious battery saw and a "comparable" petrol saw. If they're claiming equal performance to a 60cc 2-stroke saw, that doesn't necessarily mean a pro saw which typically have more power to weight, among other quality improvements, but even if you want to make that comparison, a Stihl 362 would have been a more suitable match, considering the 400 is a "hotrodded" 362 that displaces 67cc. There's lots of other considerations too. Batteries are expensive, they get weaker over time/use, they can go bad, and having several batteries can easily make the saw more costly than a long-lasting gas saw. Recharging and refueling are very different processes which may be important to you. Battery saws have their pros too, especially for the residential user. They are more convenient for the occasional user. Battery saws are much quieter. Most battery saws uses a thinner chain and bar which is more efficient, but also may be a liability especially for felling.
Love both of the saws😊❤
That’s twice I’ve seen that saw this week, I’m sure it was in one of Dirt Monkeys videos, I was looking at it thinking it must be a new professional saw, the way the bar cover uses bolts instead of the usual twist handle caught my eye right away. Personally I love it, the Stihl petrol saw obviously beats it in terms of speed but it’s so little I’d be tempted just to get rid of the noise and vibration. Not that Stihl stuff vibrates much anyway, but the decibel difference there is a fair bit. The first time someone showed me a Stihl electric chainsaw I was amazed by how quiet it was.
Big question, was the chain and bar a good match up , was the Stihl using a chipper chain which would make it cut a bit faster. And what is the amp size of the EGO battery.. great video, thanks
Hi always really enjoy watching your videos. Just wondered when you do your reviews whether you could give an average price for the battery tools so people can compare with the petrol equivalent , as I think it will help people decide as factor along with others whether it’s worth changing or upgrading to battery equipment. Great work as always
A lot of battery stuff is being marketed as direct equivalents to their petrol counterparts when they aren’t. Each power source has is benefits I have a mix of both now. I think it’s still a few years away yet before petrol tools are gone.
Has anyone found how bad battery saws are at discharging the dust? I wonder is it’s because the narrower chains don’t eject as good?
But are the EGO,s a throw away item if they break out of warranty that could cost you a lot of money, we all know most petrol machines you can repair and replace virtually most parts and keep them running for a obscene amount of years on a tight budget. As you love to repair older machines and sell them on how do you see this battery revolution effecting what you do buying repairing and flipping older machines. i expect battery power will become a throw away world too.
It's probably quite easy to repair using a multimeter. The question I'd like to know is if EGO will supply spare parts at a reasonable price
@@Ranger0752 or for how many years after production.
Battery replacement is probably two thirds price of the saw
@@CA34562True! I’d bet the unit and batteries have firmware which prevents such tampering. IIRC Ego batteries are made by Samsung, so they are top notch.
@@Ranger0752some parts are very reasonable, but others are ridiculous … had a simple switch fail on an Ego line trimmer and it was 75% the price of an entire new unit - admittedly it came with a new harness. I simply replaced it with a new switch myself and solder.
But it’s not very environmentally friendly that a switch could render the entire unit to the trash.
I have a Husqvarna 540i battery saw 14inch bar. It is fabulous. Probably my favourite saw for most uses. However when im having to make many big cuts the battery life goes down quickly. It is being used hard though! Hence out come one of my petrol saws to finish off the day. I think they both have a future. Not sure if i would choose ego as i dont know if there is a dealer near me and as much as anything i want that support when I buy my professional equipment. It seems husqvarna has it in battery saws (certainly top handle) at the moment as ergonomics, quality and ability are all too notch. It would be nice to see a husky being tested and not just Stihl. Cheers and keep doing the videos 😁
more vids on battery chainsaws please
Long time ago i read that stihl are so good due to their reslly heavy flywieght which is how they cut so good. Makes total sense too
Hi James Nice one be good to have a more in-depth look thanks again
Stihl MSA 300 vs ego chainsaw
Would be interesting to see the time from cold start to end of cut.
Hi James. Would be interesting to see the EGO saw with a Stihl bar an chain and compare them again each other.
Love your videos 💪🏻
Greetings from germany 🇩🇪
Yes being that the Stihl has a 3/8 bar and the Ego a .325 I agree. We will see what we can do 👍🏼
I happen to have both saws. The EGO saw has incredible torque and blows through the wood at least as good as my MS400. But, the MS400 has a 28" bar, which I need on big wood here in Oregon. The kicker is fire season! We have two hour fire watch after I turn off my MS400c, and it is scary as s**t even running a gas saw in the woods. My EGO has no fire constraints, which is a bit odd. In early morning cutting I see sparks going through moss which has embedded dirt. I am very careful anyway. I have an 18" EGO saw too, which is lame and I do not like. My two year old Echo E saw is faster. I am getting a second CSX5000 for my small firewood business, given fire danger now is typically several months each year. I am 100% electric for the next months...
Hi James., not bad at all for a battery chain saw, great video mate
But, how many cuts can you do with each one without charging or refilling. Toss up on power. Ego way ahead on noise. How's the weight compare?
I love my gas-powered stihl chainsaws, but I bet the ego cuts faster and has more torque than the best battery-powered stihl chainsaw to date 👍
Power is not the problem with battery equipment. How many batteries would I need for a days work as opposed to how many litres of fuel. And if I am out in the middle of nowhere who will carry them all . Try doing a test to see how much it will cut on one charge as opposed to a tank of fuel on just about any saw .
Will do, thanks Richard 👍🏼
One big problem with ego is you can’t get spare parts to repair them
Compare how easy it is to maintain and repair that’s the test! no point buying a saw that you can’t repair
i think the battery ego is probably good for homeowners. if it was my profession though would still go gas. Though i think in the future the batteries will get more and more efficient and probably take over more or less
How about the weight difference?
Ego is very good stuff (maybe a little bit overprised) , but in the long run for daily use(professional loggers) its better gaz chainnsaw, because if not in use , the electric start always even for 5 or 15,20 minut jobs and after 5 or 6 months , and the thing what make you chain saw performing exellent , is the correct scharpening... other than that , i would say make your choice , whether its for professional us , or occasional use have a good job
The only problem that ego has is overheating. I'd like to see what the fine print in the owners manual has to say about operation, like is there a duty cycle or what?
We dealing with EGO for 8 years and never had an overheat. Do you mean their older kit, the batteries? or the product during use? I presume you don’t mean this saw?
@@MachineryNation I do mean this saw. Put the full bar length in wood and see how many cuts you get.
I still think this tests should be done with equal chains
I definitely want to see more about that ego saw. The sooner the better.
Pros and cons in both. The problem is the battery, it weighs and cost to much. So one question is, will the gas powered saw run out of fuel first or the Ego CSX5000 run out of battery first. I'm thinking that battery saw will die first which means need at least two batteries to begin to compete with gas power saws.
I do like the design and feature of Ego CSX5000 chainsaw lot better then any battery saw I seen. Most people neve give MPS a thought, most are below 20 MPS which causes that jumpy feeling. The biggest pro of battery saw is just pull trigger, and right now that is a big deal with a sore back and wood needs cutting....
For some reason I cant picture you Brits cutting firewood. Good video review.....
Both are great saws to have It seems. I'd like to see the new Milwaukee 20" m18 dual battery saw vs these they claim it has a 70 cc equivalent
Saw seems powerful enough, the issue is the power density of batteries compared to petrol. You got to carry a bunch of batteries and chargers if you plan to run that thing for a few hours. Also even with limited run time the battery weighs more than a tank of gas usually.
I don’t disagree, it’s not to perfect solution for all applications. But it’s certainly a huge step in the right direction 👍🏼
How does it compare to the msa 300?
I'd be concerned about the longevity of the micro controller in the Ego , too fancy and prone to damage I think. Also the noise while different is still a similar level by the sounds , so there's no great advantage for urban environments from that standpoint , the manual doesn't give a decibel level though so I can't be sure on that . For the test , did your Stihl also have a brand new full chisel chain ?
It did but it was a 3/8 chain as opposed to the .325 on the EGO
@@MachineryNation That's fair enough for me , thanks 🙂
Are the chains the same? Any difference between them?
Can you make a comparison with the Stihl MSA300?👍
If I’m not mistaken the 400 Stihl is 68cc. Big difference from 60cc
So close but no cigar , Stihl all the way
It’s certainly getting better though 👍🏼
Shoulda tried a STIHL chain on the EGO.
The Stihl is 3/8 and ego .325 so would have to change the sprockets etc
The only problem is will it last as long as a tank of gas are 4 tanks of gas.How much longer will it
Top handle Stihl and husky are brilliant but for shear grunt you can't beat a 75cc or larger.
you can't compare them in such a short time, lets see how long they last. you need to do a year comparison, or more. i have stihl saws 15 years old still going strong
Anyone toss on a stihl chain on the ego saw or do a chain comparison?
Just looked into this a bit better . Bare machine £450 kit with 1 battery is 700 now are you ready for this . Spare battery 2 choices 2.5 is around 125 or the 5 which you will need for this saw is £250 . So if you are out in the Wilds no power around and a fair distance from your transportation for a days work you may need realistically around 10 batteries and then you have to carry them to site . This is not a great option for that is it . But for a homeowner with just a logburner cutting firewood at there property then yes I would say . But I have 4 echo chainsaws at the moment and I can do absolutely any maintenance to them full strip down and rebuild if I need to , these though absolutely no chance once they are done they go in the bin and what about battery life how long under pro use 3 month 6 month a year at most .
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Cost and run time.
My Dads a big fan @ 80 purely because of the lack of noise
put 325 chain on the stihl
Well Jimbo the ole' cocker...
1. Tony Montana would have been fucked if they naughty Colombians would have had an ego saw.
2. Having rocked a 36 volt husqvarna battery saw for a while now and absolutely abused the heck out of it I can certainly vote for battery powered devices.
3. A absolutely huge advantage over petrol that battery have is they pretty much always work. No issues with carburettors no issues with misfueling no issues in general with the drive train.
4. My 36-volt husky top handle has an is most definitely missing power. And even on an 18-in bar the thing struggles. However I think it may be time to upgrade.... hashtag questionmarks
Stihl gas saw for me bought a new ms250 and have a ms170 both of those will still run long after that battery saw in decomposing in a trash pile
What this doesn't show you after a few more cuts the electric chainsaw stops because of overheating. Also the Stihl is fitted with a 3/8 1.6 mm chain which is a lot more heavy duty where the electric sore has a 1.3mm .325. If you put a .325 on the STIHL you would see a lot faster times at the expense of durability of course. There is definitely a place for good quality electric chainsaws in urban situations for professional and homeowner but they are for the moment niche equipment and not a replacement. Unfortunately riding this wave is cheap electric chainsaws and other garden equipment on the market just contributing to future landfill.
The problem is not the saw, its the batteries. At $300+ a peice with only a life expectancy of two years, its a money pit.
They are great suburban homeowner tools, but will never be financially worthwhile for large scale contractors.
Unless we get a huge breakthrough in battery technology, but I highly doubt it.
Hi James, the problem with battery power is the battery doesn’t last long. So how long does the battery last? Always great videos
Yes. Ego is a toss when broken item. They have limited service. Stihl is typically serviced where it is sold.
Ego is the same in the UK, only purchased through a specialist servicing dealer 👍🏼
Both technologies Gas and Electric have their merits. As many have said... Electric is more than adequate for weekend warriors while the gas saws still prevail for pro's. I'm a weekend guy... the plusses of Electric are: not extremely heavy, does not get excessively hot, feels safer, less things that can break, cleaner and quieter. That list quite long... Electric, if it had the same power and the battery somehow could equal gas... then gas would go by the way of the Dodo.
Love ego I’ve got a strimmer and I love it also got 3 sthil petrol chainsaw and will never go to a battery saw I’ve been looking at the sthil battery chain though 😂😂can’t beat a sthil chainsaw
Yep about what I expected
Would be good if you had a dB for both while cutting, as the battery saw was still quite loud
You handled the sthill better on the up and you couldn't handle the up on ego losing time
Well spotted mate, I didn’t notice this myself until I edited the video 👍🏼
Loving mine so far but man the chain didn’t last long
I've a old Stihl 240av probably a 25yr old saw use it regularly and abuse it... Doesn't miss a beat I can guarantee you won't say the same for that ego with it's ridiculous looking battery
Needs the same chains to be fair
The ego has its place but the gas is still better
but can a cordless work all day i bet it will overheat
I see absolutely no positive aspects about the EGO, the ego is way too expensive.
You need the saw, at least 2-3batteries to work, better even 4 batteries and a charger.
That is almost 2 Stihl saws.
It's a gadget and you can cut a bit, but it's too expensive when you add all costs.
It depends which way you look at it. One way - buying your fuel upfront. Another is having those batteries to power other tools from the same brand which spreads the cost further. Yes vibration, quieter. I’m not saying it’s better in all circumstances but there are defo benefits
tec video peplase
.325 1.3 (EGO) vs 3/8 1.6mm (Stihl)
Is this a joke ? everyone who working with chain chainsaws will understand
Same size of chain than we can compare...
at least you can learn how stihl is pronounced
I’m not German 💁🏼♂️
That’s blsht all the electric chainsaws, I work in forest for two decades and never seen Anything worse
Not everything works for all situations. Grandma doesn't need an 80cc saw for a few branches and small trees now and then. Electric has a place. We use both, and my Milwaukee has taken down and processed a lot of good size oak and birch trees
🤣🤣🤣 hundreds of uses in a bucket on the ground cutting 120 footers up. I’ll take my 500i or 661c with a skip tooth and aggressive grind any day over these jokers of a saw. 201C 261c 500i and 661c are my go to saws for a part time tree business. I ain’t got time to mess around with a politically charged saw that won’t last. Child please. Hard pass.