History Summarized: Rome After Empire

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    Rome "Fell" in 476... but we still have Rome. How'd that happen, and what does the Pope have to do with it?
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    BOOKS: "Rome: a History in Seven Sackings" by Matthew Kneale, "Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants" by Garrett Ryan, "Ravenna" by Judith Herrin, National Geographic "Ultimate Visual History of the World" by Jean-Pierre Isbouts
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  • @gergenthequietmetalhead4226
    @gergenthequietmetalhead4226 ปีที่แล้ว +1677

    Idea for a movie: The Goths forcibly have Rome abandoned, but neglect to evict one person, a drunkard so inebriated he did not notice his neighbors leaving until one day he sobers up enough to notice he's all alone in the city that once controlled the Mediterranean. The entire movie is him remembering the stories of this place while trying to figure out what happened to make everyone leave. Working title: The Last Man in Rome

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Honestly, I'd pay money to watch a movie like that.
      Some story conceits that would have to be made in order to have an actual story going on besides a dude walking around an empty and sacked city could be that the MC is a student of a historian of Rome, so they know enough history to remember it but not a complete encyclopedic history. There could be flashback scenes of the MC and his historian mentor talking about historical stories while walking f through pre-sacked Rome. I guess for a story like this, where most of the screen time would be dedicated to 1 main character for the majority of the time as they wander an empty city, it pays to have some narrative mechanisms in place so that it doesn't become boring, ya know?

    • @ModernEphemera
      @ModernEphemera ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Ooh or like a small stakes conflict between a few Romans who have a vendetta with a small band of Goths (maybe resisting eviction or for vengeance) set amongst a sprawling, monumental, statue-strewn, but eerily empty post-eviction Rome.
      If done right the visuals could be amazing. Less literally about the decline of Rome but more evoking it and using it to set the atmosphere

    • @gergenthequietmetalhead4226
      @gergenthequietmetalhead4226 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@ajiththomas2465 that is true, most average Romans wouldn't have known the history behind the politics that shaped their lives, without prior research and study that the majority wouldn't have had access to, a person with that background would be fun to follow for a movie. However, I was thinking of going into this with the angle of story's and information that average Romans were given through word of mouth and propaganda rather then actual history. The guy would be using his limited knowledge to make sense of his situation basically.

    • @gergenthequietmetalhead4226
      @gergenthequietmetalhead4226 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@ModernEphemera that would be cool! A smaller conflict mirroring the much larger conflict

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@gergenthequietmetalhead4226
      I could see the MC being an average Roman plebian who tries to use his limited knowledge to make sense of the ruins of Rome. But at the same time, it makes you wonder why this dude didn't leave Rome years ago and move to the country side like all the other average Romans? Why even focus on stories when getting food is more important? Without the MC having a tangible connection to Roman history and literature, it wouldn't make sense for the MC to have ever stayed in Rome long enough to be the only one left there or why he wouldn't immediately leave. Plus, the knowledge of the average Roman is not the same thing as the knowledge of the average audience member. We'd be just as lost if not even more lost because the average audience member wouldn't have the slightest clue about what life and culture was like in Rome. Having the MC be a learned student of a historian helps fixes that because it provides a foundation of certainty to what the MC remembers and talks about and why he would stay in the sieged Rome instead of leaving a long time ago.

  • @Dyneamaeus
    @Dyneamaeus ปีที่แล้ว +2399

    "Tens of thousands living in a city built for millions"
    No insult to the peoples of that era, but that sounds like a fantastic D&D setting.

    • @OverlySarcasticProductions
      @OverlySarcasticProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +824

      Free world building concept in need of a good home. Will any kindhearted writer/DM please find it in their hearts to adopt?
      -B

    • @zenebean
      @zenebean ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Works in sci fi, fantasy, you name it

    • @Samm815
      @Samm815 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Reminds me of Wrath of the Righteous. Urban Warfare in a Fantasy Setting is awesome, and I wish it was used more.

    • @theintrovertedarcanist984
      @theintrovertedarcanist984 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      In at least one of the D&D worlds I’ve made, elves are actually future humans from an Earth just like ours, but with all the D&D magic and a whole lot of sci-fi stuff in there too. They basically pulled a few of themselves into the main fantasy world.
      “Hovering in the sky, miles above a barren mountain, is an entire elven city called Paris. Its centerpiece, the Eiffel Tower, sticks out of the mountain’s peak. But nobody, human or elf, is taking pictures of the city with their magical runes. Wandering around it, it would take a long time for you to find anyone walking down the street, sitting on the benches, or even in a house.
      “There’s roughly nine thousand people living in this gigantic city. That might sound like a lot to you and me, but according to its citizens, that’s nowhere near how high the numbers used to be. And that’s including the visiting humans, dwarves, and planar beings (the number of rakshasas is problematic, to say the least). Many have moved out into the surrounding mountain range and plains, forming something like suburbs.
      “The citizens tell of a long-gone age when Paris was filled with people from all around the world. How the city was partially abandoned after a ‘nuclear holocaust’, whatever that means. How, when their people began to travel to the stars, the city and its beauty- and, after a while, the nations of their home world Earth- were forgotten.
      “Paris is a shell of its former self, something unimaginably bustling, important… and alive. Worst of all, nobody makes good baguettes anymore!”
      -Traveler, unidentified

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It kinda reminds me of Esper the Bard's solo campaign they did recently, where habitation is in small conclaves built inside of a great and terrible maze structure.

  • @gormauslander
    @gormauslander ปีที่แล้ว +172

    4:54 this image is so... _evocative_ .
    There's such a lonely, melancholy tranquility. Imagine living in a nature-claimed city, once the greatest in the world, a seat of untold power moments before. You tend your farm and look up at these random columns still standing that your great grandfather carved for a kingdom that...doesn't exist?

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm imagining it, and mostly I'm just trying to figure out why I suddenly started thinking about a dead guy I've never met who has no bearing on my life. Now I've shrugged it off and I'm back to my crops.

    • @gormauslander
      @gormauslander ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CoralCopperHead so why do you watch history videos?

    • @goncalo33
      @goncalo33 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@gormauslander He's talking as if he was that farmer, i.e. questioning that thought process about the fallen and getting back to work.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +871

    There's an amazing comic about the Fall of the Western Empire called "Amiculus", in which the byzantines, after re-conquering Rome during the reign of Justinian, try to find out the fate of Romulus Augustulus while the last days of the boy as emperor are shown through flashbacks. Loved the way Orestes was portrayed here as a maniac obsessed with maintaining the Empire no matter what

    • @cerebrummaximus3762
      @cerebrummaximus3762 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I only know a comic when Rome was at its peak, defeating all the tribes Gaul... well almost all of it: one village was left

    • @theperson8539
      @theperson8539 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@cerebrummaximus3762 It wasn't at its peak yet, that would technically be under Trajan.

    • @muhammadeisa1459
      @muhammadeisa1459 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It sounds awesome. Where can I read it?

    • @eruiluvatar7155
      @eruiluvatar7155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh, sounds interesting

    • @youknowjuno145541
      @youknowjuno145541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is the comic?

  • @spazzyshortgirl23
    @spazzyshortgirl23 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    So Rome adopted my Grandpa (grew up in the depression on a farm). I always was bummed when I saw historical sites neglected. His perspective was always “very pretty, can’t use it for much tho.” (No object sentimentality for that man, only a no nonsense understanding of what is needed to live another day.” In many ways, he helped me understand that sometimes old things must die to allow the living to thrive…but other times, we work to preserve the beautiful.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi ปีที่แล้ว +661

    I believe that Odoacer sacked Rome by throwing the Emperor down a shaft and watching him explode into a brilliant ball of blue energy. That's the only proper way to depose an Emperor and I'm quite certain I saw a fresco depicting this historical event.
    Just kidding. Odoacer spared the Emperor because that is the true Jedi way. And it wasn't depicted in a fresco. It was depicted in a mosaic!

    • @hailghidorah2536
      @hailghidorah2536 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thank you for this vital history

    • @yobaugst3369
      @yobaugst3369 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thank you Obi-Wan Kenobi

    • @Amanda-C.
      @Amanda-C. ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Took me three read-throughs to get the joke.
      You get an, 'Ey, I see what you did there! 😏 👉👉

    • @mr.mystery9338
      @mr.mystery9338 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except Odoacer is like the sith. Just like all g*rms.

    • @stephenquinn3447
      @stephenquinn3447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      “Somehow, Romulus Augustulus returned”

  • @louisharkna9464
    @louisharkna9464 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    If it makes you feel any better Blue, I'm sure when they melted bronze statues & broke apart marble statues that those in charge made sure to concentrate on the most damaged pieces, from previous sacking & lack of maintenance. Even the most practically minded fall to sentimentalism.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Also that would just be less work.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead ปีที่แล้ว

      Use it all, f*ck half-measures.

    • @winterroadspokenword4681
      @winterroadspokenword4681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No, my dad is extremely unsentimental.
      He would melt down any old thing. He doesn’t care! Men like him exist

  • @simeonwashington9995
    @simeonwashington9995 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    I always find this bit of history to be interesting. How Rome became the various countries we see today (like Italy). See all the Goths and Germanic tribes sweep through the west and seeing the rise of the Frankish people.

  • @OverlySarcasticProductions
    @OverlySarcasticProductions  ปีที่แล้ว +69

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    • @ellonico
      @ellonico ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @eskarinakatz7723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @silvermagpie1071
      @silvermagpie1071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who would win: the pins I already have and my wallet, or the shiny shiny pins

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima ปีที่แล้ว +125

    For those interested in the re-conquest of Rome by the byzantines, there's a 1968 german-italian film called "The Last Roman", in which Emperor Justinian is played by the legendary Orson Wells. It's pretty enjoyable, actually!

  • @abbysmommy1205
    @abbysmommy1205 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Congrats on 10 years of educating us plebs

    • @phictionofgrandeur2387
      @phictionofgrandeur2387 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A comma would be funny here.

    • @lgachaboyyt
      @lgachaboyyt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congrats on 10 years of educating, us plebs

  • @RamblinPhoenix
    @RamblinPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Blue, you got so close to talking about the Cluster-Fire that was Cola Di Rienzo. He "brought back" the Republic...for like 7 months in the 1300s.
    The "Idea of Rome" is a magical torch...but it tends to burn most who try and grasp it.

  • @toboterxp8155
    @toboterxp8155 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Honestly, I'd love to see a summary of the way ancient society became medieval society.

  • @kylepeters8690
    @kylepeters8690 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    The more I learn about Rome and it's empire, the more I respect and admire, while also desiring to laugh at it. Rome is the living version of that room on fire and saying it's fine meme, but for hundred of years. Rome is the kind of nation that hears it's dead, than asks why no one told it and goes to it's own funeral for giggles. How is there no SCP or eldritch god style thing related to Rome as a living being?

    • @ale-xsantos1078
      @ale-xsantos1078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well there's still time for that!

    • @knightsshade3590
      @knightsshade3590 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Technically Mother Harlot, form the Bible(Book of Revelation), is likely an allegory for Rome, but not in a positive light.

    • @KraNisOG
      @KraNisOG ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hundreds? More like thousands.

    • @felinesmite5170
      @felinesmite5170 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There was a cult for Rome the Goddess as a divine personification of the city that started around the 4th century BC and died out about 700 years later when the Empire became Christian. She's depicted on several still existing monuments and coins, usually dressed up like an Amazonian warrior and without various symbols associated with victory and power.
      Goddess aside, as someone living in Rome I can confirm several areas have Big Eldritch Energy.

  • @annekeener4119
    @annekeener4119 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love this video. Rome from 476 to 1000 or so is usually just not talked about. It's a fascinating story and I can't believe everyone ignores it. It sets up so much of the Late Medieval period and Renaissance but just gets ignored.

  • @Nara.Shikamaru
    @Nara.Shikamaru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The fact that Odoacer spared the kid makes him a a real one.

  • @tinahawley320
    @tinahawley320 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “Nature is healing” is my favorite line in this video.

  • @furrymczplayer18
    @furrymczplayer18 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ever since I started my college life and had to dive into The Iliad and DESPERATELY needed a summary cause damn, so much unnecessary stuff went down that I STILL have issues remembering all of it, OSP has taken over my life with its many educational videos about greek mythology as well as mythology in general. I am now officially in love with mythology and am obsessed with the miscellaneous myths series. Man I'm in love with this channel.

  • @PheOfTheFae
    @PheOfTheFae ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Nature is healing" made my little Celtic Polytheist heart smile. ;)

  • @archusdraisen2786
    @archusdraisen2786 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just ordered one of each pin and an extra Hades Persephone bundle for my brother for Christmas. Great work as always guys!

  • @rebeccakeele7541
    @rebeccakeele7541 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Since I left school weekends and Fridays have meant basically nothing (I work a job that runs 24/7 so weekends don't exist😭) OSP makes my Fridays special again

  • @0_Body
    @0_Body ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Rome gets sacked
    Rome: I didn't hear no bell

  • @uria3679
    @uria3679 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Who hopes that OSP gets a chance to play Monster Prom?
    I want to see Red relate to Liam, Blue, relate to Calculester, Indigo relate to Zoe, and Cyan relate to Vera

    • @LuneWatcher
      @LuneWatcher ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The whole bundle was on sale for 50% off during halloween too! They could have bought it already and it'll be the next gaming stream.

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LuneWatcher maybe but I’m not holding my breath if they didn’t

  • @ayaanmohammad6645
    @ayaanmohammad6645 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This video was great! If it's possible, I'd like to know where I could learn more on the Great Schism between the Catholic Papacy and Orthodoxy, since it feels like a really big event with a lot of info.

    • @m-edesharnais5409
      @m-edesharnais5409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A channel called Extra Credits talks about this, in a video series called Early Christian Schisms (they once did a crossover with OSP). It's quite interesting!

    • @ayaanmohammad6645
      @ayaanmohammad6645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@m-edesharnais5409 Ooh! I've watched a lot of Extra Credits, but never heard of this series! Thanks!

    • @ciaotiziocaius4899
      @ciaotiziocaius4899 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a series of books about the medieval times of Rome made by Gregorovius a German author who is in no way an historian, but they're really interesting to read

  • @AnaxErik4ever
    @AnaxErik4ever ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the merch plug at the start. Those pins are so cute, and so stylish too! Thanks Blue for this brief and informative lesson on the "in-between" era between late Roman Empire and Holy Roman Empire.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Senate disbanded with no fanfare? So this is how liberty dies. With absolutely no applause.

    • @Punaparta
      @Punaparta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't an Episode IV reference have been more appropriate in this context?
      You know, "The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."

  • @monicazhou5301
    @monicazhou5301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 4:21, I feel like an immortal can be placed in this setting. Seeing a home they lived in for so many centuries crumble in what would seem to them as simply a few seconds in their long lives.
    Imagine their absolute joy in finding Rome resurrected itself, and when they return (idk, maybe they went to China and lived there for a while) they find the city has so many new buildings. But they will still recall how Rome "fell" in all of the marble cladding has been removed, leaving only a husk.

  • @garthmarenghi9040
    @garthmarenghi9040 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:28 Okay, I have to ask. What the hell are the Normans doing here, so far from Normandy? How did they get here, in enough number to conquer?

    • @zurielschubert9410
      @zurielschubert9410 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Normans went everywhere. They're everywhere, The French fears them, the Saxons hates them, the Danes likes them, the Andalusians don't mind them and the Tunisians find them irritating.

    • @lida7529
      @lida7529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How did they get here? SHIPS

  • @paulwagner688
    @paulwagner688 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Last time I was this early, Aneas was being carried by Aphrodite

    • @nonnayerbusiness7704
      @nonnayerbusiness7704 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you haven't arrived yet, because the myth is Aneas carrying his father Anchises out of the burning city of Troy.

    • @paulwagner688
      @paulwagner688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nonnayerbusiness7704 The Iliad, remember?

  • @melimsah
    @melimsah 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blue, you know what would be amazing? The story of the Colosseum between when it was built and used as we think of it, and today. Cuz I was curious during this video wondering about it during those times Rome was largely abandoned, and Wikipedia alludes to it being used as a church, a castle, a bandit den, etc.

  • @metamaxis
    @metamaxis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    General summation of Rome and Death's relationship:
    "I exist just to spite you"

  • @ericajackson6662
    @ericajackson6662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never thought I would learn the reason French has so many accent marks from an OSP video, but I love it.

  • @Valandreaus
    @Valandreaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t believe you guys have done this for 10 years please keep it up OSP you’re just great

  • @Oooooof2024
    @Oooooof2024 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have been working on a DnD campaign for some time based on this history period. It is so fascinating. It is unfortunate that this period is not used in more historic books and films

  • @Berathan-dnd
    @Berathan-dnd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curse you Blue!!! I have been tempted each time by the fancy little pins, but now in gold? So shiny. So preciousss! Whelp thats my Christmas present for myself done.

  • @samminden1058
    @samminden1058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One fun interesting fact is that an early work of modern alternate history is about this period and is called Lest Darkness Fall, and it is essentially a re-imagining of A Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur Court, except this time about a guy ending up in the Ostrogothic Kingdom of Italy and realizing they have a better chance of recreating the Roman Empire than Justinian and so he gives them technology and economic aids (though fails to get gunpowder just yet) to help them fight off the Byzantines and even convinces Belisarius to switch sides and bring his strategic and tactical skills to the Ostrogoths. Also one of my favourite books on the subject of this period, The Ruin of the Roman Empire by James O'Donnell compares Justinian to Hamlet...as an insult, seeing both as indecisive, mercurial, rash when they do take action, and above all not as clever as they thought they were. Historian Peter Heather in his own book on the period between the fall of Rome and Charlemagne has even less nice things to say of Justinian, though also jokes that Theodoric was lucky to have an effective propagandist in the form of the historian Cassiodorus. And final fun thing, Theodoric ended up becoming a Medieval folk hero on the level of King Arthur and Charlemagne, especially in Central/Centre-West Europe under the name Dietrich von Bern and often popped up to make cameos in stories such as the Nibelungenlied (in which he basically resolves all the conflict).

  • @A_Random_W33b
    @A_Random_W33b ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know not to narc on blue, I love his presentation style of information, but I would just like to see him step outside of his comfort zone and do history videos not just on Rome/Greece. I know it's his area of expertise but I would love it if he explored other cultures around the world .
    He did it before, he can most certainly do it again.

    • @ewok40k
      @ewok40k ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a way were all Romans. Using Latin alphabet, roman Civil law as basis of much of today laws, and having Latin as source of much of modern English vocabulary.

    • @gilgameschvonuruk4982
      @gilgameschvonuruk4982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are other channels for this, and he did talk about other topics in the past

  • @michaellohmeier6427
    @michaellohmeier6427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blue after finishing this episode without crying: Please excuse me, I am going into the bath tub and cry myself clean.

  • @sketchyart8411
    @sketchyart8411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t believe I have been watching this sense I was 10 like I remember watching this channel when it was so small and the channel was only 4 years old. I love this content so much

  • @6keypandemonium606
    @6keypandemonium606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This reminds me of one of my favorite personal challenges I did back in my Sophomore year of high school. I read in it's entirety "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire". 1000+ pages, fun read. Thanks for the nostalgia trip, OSP!

  • @Retiredtraveler1961
    @Retiredtraveler1961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s a very quick and dirty synopsis of the fall of Rome and it’s aftermath. Thank you for sharing.! 😊

  • @hughesbenjamin3158
    @hughesbenjamin3158 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 years of youtubing... my God, and it all started with BRIAN BLESSED

  • @gustavakerman2566
    @gustavakerman2566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I kinda find it hilarious how the Senatus Populusque Romanus ended with so little fanfare
    Like one day they just said “hey guys, let’s just go home” and the king agreed

  • @christiankroemer4267
    @christiankroemer4267 ปีที่แล้ว

    This...might be my favorite OSP video. A combination of the history we know: the years, the heroes, the battles; and the history that is often forgotten: the culture changes, the slow evolution, and the lives of the people who are unnamed in the literature.

  • @doodoopoopoo2508
    @doodoopoopoo2508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OSP please make a babylon video I have been waiting for a babylon video for so long

  • @ethangonzalez8904
    @ethangonzalez8904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that might be the hardest thing to accept about the end: it’s not really the end. We like to believe if all the things we held dear disappeared- our gods, our flags, our ways of life, our traditions, all the good in the world- surely the world won’t get to outlive them as if nothing happened.
    But it does anyway. The sky doesn’t fall. The earth doesn’t open up and swallow all the sinners. The land doesn’t sink into the sea. Even after everything you’ve fought for, everything you believed in has been turned to rubble and dust… the world just. Keeps. Spinning. The sun goes down and it comes back up again. Indifferent.
    That might be simultaneously the most disheartening and most hopeful lesson I’ve learned from studying history: life goes on.

  • @Sinsanities
    @Sinsanities ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "and I know this look bad... and IT IS!!"

    • @Sinsanities
      @Sinsanities ปีที่แล้ว

      from now on this will be my new catch phrase

  • @sekhmetsaes
    @sekhmetsaes ปีที่แล้ว

    9:00 "I try not to think about it too hard or I'll cry about it..." Same, Blue, same.

  • @PragmaticAntithesis
    @PragmaticAntithesis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do the Pope Fights video you proposed on the Saeculum Obscurum, it sounds very fun!

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations on your ten-year milestone 😊

  • @kagitsune
    @kagitsune ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:41 missed opportunity for "Busy-ntine century" 🤓

  • @ka-1atmyth353
    @ka-1atmyth353 ปีที่แล้ว

    Osp is now one of the TH-cam channel I keep trying to get others to watch I absolutely love the channel it’s a highlight for me to see a new video

  • @polarvortex6496
    @polarvortex6496 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “What? Your ROME is evolving! It evolved into PAPAL STATES & HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE!“
    “What? Your HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE is evolving! It evolved into MODERN ITALY!”

  • @Lionstar16
    @Lionstar16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crikey, has it really been 10 years since OSP came into existence? Well, a big thank you to Red and Blue and the rest of the OSP team for making such a wonderful channel :)

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rome didn't really fall it just kind of took a leisurely stroll downhill.

  • @U.Inferno
    @U.Inferno ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I only ever thought about what happened to rome after rome when I was in High School. It was through Extra-credits Justinian series and something about the way the retelling was woven enthralled me. It somehow depicted the entire thing as a post-apocalyptic even as Byzantinium tried to hold itself together

  • @PrestonSikes
    @PrestonSikes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HOW DID I MISS THIS FOR A MONTH!?!? 🇻🇦❤️

  • @theanimeunderworld8338
    @theanimeunderworld8338 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing says fall like the fall of rome

  • @artbookgaming
    @artbookgaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yay! I love these recap videos! Can you make one on Finland? I promise there are some cool history gems here, just look at ww2, there's white death, the tiny Finnish army defeating USSR AND driving NAZIS out of the country, the president telling Hitler to go f himself by cunning help against the USSR out of his armies and then cutting the contract by stepping down. The preservation of the pagan faith through Kalevala and word of mouth, full of cool shamanic myths, making it through a good few invasions and multiple flavors of Christianity as national religions, somewhat intact even to be revived by Karhunkansa much later. Finland actually defending Ahvenanmaa or Åland and the people of Åland choosing to be governed over by Finland because Sweden wouldn't protect them. From a forest with villages with no established rule, to living under Swedish and Russian rule, to independence and finding national identity, this little country has stories and I would love to see you cover some of them.

    • @zawrator4457
      @zawrator4457 ปีที่แล้ว

      > the tiny Finnish army defeating USSR AND driving NAZIS out of the country, the president telling Hitler to go f himself by cunning help against the USSR out of his armies and then cutting the contract by stepping down
      Think it may be in the interest of historical accuracy to call this by its name: "Nazi collaboration."

    • @artbookgaming
      @artbookgaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zawrator4457 Absolutely, Finland did collaborate with the nazis, the bills were paid for it, there was a whole ass famine because the food was going to Soviet-Russia and having to get them paid caused Finland's industrialization, but you have to also understand that if Finland had not gotten help from the nazis it would've been invaded by USSR and suffered the same faith as the Balkan countries. Look at Estonia, it got reconquered by the USSR and subjected to the Big Brother life style, incredibly insecure and tight, step even a little bit out of line accidentally and your neighbor or family member tells on you to the government to get tortured so that they don't get punished too if someone finds out. Trust me I weep for them, Estonia is like Finland's little brother and I hate to see them suffer that way.

  • @PangolinMontanari
    @PangolinMontanari ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Post-roman west is a *really* fascinating subject.

  • @bubbasbigblast8563
    @bubbasbigblast8563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feels worth mentioning that a Muslim raid in 846 looted and damaged Old St. Peter's Basilica, sparking the construction of the Leonine Wall.
    As the Byzantine Navy proved increasingly unreliable, the Italian states increasingly had reason to break with Byzantium, which made their relationship...messy.

  • @cuanchulainn
    @cuanchulainn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I paused at the perfect frame, sent it to my fellow osp fan, and am now both extremely interested and somewhat mentally scarred

  • @brendanware2930
    @brendanware2930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "... tenth anniversary of OSP ..." gods, I feel old..

  • @Pantherblack
    @Pantherblack ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the shit I love, the details that connect this lesson in history class with that lesson in history class.

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang. It's honestly kind of amazing that it survived all of *THAT* XD

  • @tiffanyofthebooks
    @tiffanyofthebooks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes! A new vid! Exciting. Hi Blue!

  • @carlinc.christensen3478
    @carlinc.christensen3478 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's so interesting to see that great falls are slow and seeming normal. It's awesome! 😎
    Thank you Blue!!

  • @duaspontes3716
    @duaspontes3716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blue slowly making his way into Venice

  • @therongjr
    @therongjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blue, my dude, how have you not created a "History-makers" video about Procopius?!

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Rome's founding was anywhere near as convoluted as its demise, then no-fuckin-wonder it wasn't built in a day.

  • @acanadianknight7269
    @acanadianknight7269 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need a danm theme song. Like right after you say “let’s do some history” a jazzy little jingle plays with some cool visuals. That’d be sick. Also amazing vid, love all the content and you guys in general

  • @ciaotiziocaius4899
    @ciaotiziocaius4899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, a video about my favourite subject EVER!

  • @Thebosnian1257
    @Thebosnian1257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You made my day thanks 😀

  • @BlankPicketSign
    @BlankPicketSign ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rome wasn't built in a day and it sure didn't fall in a day

  • @chris7263
    @chris7263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's... Kind of incredible that as political conquest decimated Rome to a shell of what it once was, the political center of the known world, it managed to rise up again as the religious center instead. What a comeback.

  • @justjesssss1026
    @justjesssss1026 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blue, you are the only reason I know anything about history. I thank you for that... though my friends may not.

  • @Venomtankmod
    @Venomtankmod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video talking about the actual historical stories that fate draws characters from? It’s a mix of myths and history

  • @mudkip932
    @mudkip932 ปีที่แล้ว

    NGL, I was sad I missed out on the Demeter and Hestia Pins in silver in Feb, so I'm glad I could at least pick up a version of them this time.

  • @sethbar-zak7110
    @sethbar-zak7110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do the the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy book series? I really want to see your way of summarizing it.🦒

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Europe: "Oh sorrow! Immortal Rome has finally, finally died!"
    Rome: * Becomes Lich *

  • @ActiveAdvocate1
    @ActiveAdvocate1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, since I don't care about Rome (SORRY, GREG!!!), I'ma just zero in on the TEN YERS you guys have been going! OH MY GODS, congrats! You people are amazing, you make me laugh, and you've actually made me smarter, which is more than I can say of 99% of other TH-cam content. Well done!

  • @stephenflint3640
    @stephenflint3640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rome is a geopolitical Lich.
    So long as one cornerstone, one brick, one lump of concrete and mortar retains its place, whatever district it may be, Rome will reconstitute rise and back up, not wholly the same, and certainly not as grand as before, BUT IT WILL GET THERE, JUST YOU WATCH!!
    No fire, flood, sack or dereliction will halt its regrowth and reorientation.

  • @blutheblooper1280
    @blutheblooper1280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that I’m in AP world all the years of watching has given me sooooo much background knowledge

  • @Galaar
    @Galaar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn't matter that I already have Poseiden and Athena, as a sailor I feel obligated to get them again in that gorgeous gold.

  • @anonymousperson4214
    @anonymousperson4214 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 years? Of only I'd found your channel back then, it would've helped in a Rather Tumultuous time in my life. At least I have you now during another tumultuous phase. Ah, adulthood, thy name is boring timesuck administrative chores :)

  • @thoughtbiscuits1702
    @thoughtbiscuits1702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do a video on the Primordial God's and Goddesses. I know it's hard to pin down the exact historical lore, but I'm very interested in hearing the details you find in your research. More specifically, Nyx and her children.

  • @cjclarke6441
    @cjclarke6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so this is for the Loki video but I don’t think that it would ever be seen there so I’ll post it here,
    So what if Loki IS a title and is what Oden is called in that form/aspect/or just when he does something mischievous, that would explain his relation with Oden being so confusing, lack of worship, baldur stuff, kinda the riding the horse, him being related to the hearth for some reason could be a lost attribute of Oden or just belonged to his Loki part just cause, and the use of the name Loki in other completely separate beings as its like if the hulk was called anger, it is called that as it represents it but that name is still a description to everyone else, that really just leaves stuff like ragnarok out but that might just be the 2 becoming separate beings entirely like with Dyonises and Pan. Also Loki’s association with spiders could just be because they are animals that’s whole thing is entanglement, as cobweb=Loki’s net=entangler’s net
    entangler=spider.
    (Sorry for bad writing)

  • @connorbingham-davis2091
    @connorbingham-davis2091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Historians: Did you actually die?
    Rome: Well yes, but actually, no.

  • @Brysonhundley
    @Brysonhundley ปีที่แล้ว

    I have nothing to add but that I sang with a choir inside the Santa Maria Maggiore Basilica that he mentions at 7:58 and it is very pretty

  • @zoinomiko
    @zoinomiko ปีที่แล้ว

    GOD YES NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT ROME

  • @Rockstar-bq5fm
    @Rockstar-bq5fm ปีที่แล้ว

    Blues history lessons are always a pleasant surprise

  • @drudenae
    @drudenae ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my first time clicking on one of your videos, and immediately I have to say. Those pins are cute! Awesome merch, even if I haven't viewed enough of your content to purchase any quite yet.

  • @chrisvb4387
    @chrisvb4387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautifully done. I'm an atheist with Roman Catholic upbringing. I like how you describe everything from the eyes of the city itself. Makes me think of a what if at some point in time, the Catholic church transforms into a new Roman senate far out in the future.

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NIce to see Zombie Rome being covered in this channel. It is really hard to kill that which is already dead.

  • @mysticman56
    @mysticman56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course this video comes out after my classes finishes with discussing the fall of rome

  • @NisansaDdS
    @NisansaDdS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:04 But Blue, the Roman sanate didn't die. It just beame the College of Cardinals.

  • @Kaegri
    @Kaegri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I burst out laughing when he said "But consider. Rome. 𝙘𝙖𝙣𝙣𝙤𝙩 die" xD

  • @Violetstar22
    @Violetstar22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little blue and red pins bought!
    There super cute!
    Don’t like the gold outline but it’s to celebrate the anniversary so it will work.
    😁
    Keep up the great work!

    • @rodrigocampos1119
      @rodrigocampos1119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah same, i've been waiting all year for the restock of november and now these ones will look diferent from the others i have, are the normals coming back for black friday? OCD IS REAL MAN

  • @dana-ger_to_society1011
    @dana-ger_to_society1011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned the same amount of stuff in 12 minutes of a comedic YT video as I did a whole week of school and homework.

  • @jonhstonk7998
    @jonhstonk7998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Christianity once again saving not just souls but also entire cultures and civilizations…as a Catholic I believe Jesus knew all of the future of mankind but I do wonder if the apostles had complete comprehension of just how impactful the religion of the messiah would become.