@@ericmalanowski5547 Seriously!! , Aurelian did all the hard work, fought with the barbarians, brought all the lost territories back, but still doesn't get much recognition :( He doesn't even have his ceramic bust ...
Meanwhile, the ghost of Aurelian is like: "Oh sure Blue, give *all* the credit for Rome surviving the crisis of the third century to Diocletian! It's not like they called me the *Restorer of the World* or anything." I'm kidding, it was a great video. Obviously, some things get skipped over.
The Restitutor Orbis is magnanimous, and appreciates a historian passionately and excitedly describing the history of his beloved empire. Purple may be the color of the emperor, but Blue is not far off at all.
FUN FACT: It is often proposed and debated by academics that this is what Diocletian wanted, people to forget Aurelian existed and claim his victories for himself
@@pergys6991 Majorian had fewer resources than his predecessors yet he managed to reconquer much of hispania and gaul from the Visigoths, Franks and Burgundians. He was betrayed by his own countrymen for his unpopular policies which benefited the Western empire but reduced the power and wealth of the aristocrats so they decided to have him killed. The mistake he made was trusting his own countrymen so much that he disbanded his army while on the way back to ravenna. He was captured and executed by ricimer with the support of the senate.
The history of Byzantium will of course be much easier to cover. It's not like their name is literally a synonym for "insidiously entangled beyond comprehension." ... oh, wait.
Yeah. Sad no love for him and all other mostly Dalmatian generals who pretty much held Rome together through the entire crisis. They ended to be the competent ones amidst that entire shitshow of a century.
That just changes them from being an ancient, world spanning conspiracy which has just brought about the apocalypse to an ancient, Pan-European conspiracy which previously basically brought about a localised apocalypse. It’s a Change in scale, yes, but it still looks rather poor for them doesn’t it.
It's kind of invariable. Any civilization that takes upwards of a year to communicate between its border extremities is going to contract until its area becomes more manageable, not matter how wise its leadership is.
LordRadical I would say thier leadership wasn't to wise as with a trend like theye were going through, a wise man would refuse the throne in favor of a longer life
@@tyberostheredwake8098 I disagree, I think the decline of a civilization is inevitable, but this isn't necessarily because the borders were too large. the roman empire was split to provinces to solve this issue.
Thank you, Blue. Because of this video, I am now hospitalized due to choking on my own laughter. I’ll send you the hospital bill later. ... also, keep up the good work, you make history worth listening too.
Rome has been sacked Those who were responsible for sacking Rome have now been sacked. The sackers who sacked the sackers who sacked Rome have now also been sacked.
The most telling part about how weak the Western Roman Empire was is that it technically never fell. The last ruler was told to shove it when Odoacer rolled into Ravenna, and no one else could take it up again. Julianus tried, bless him, but the second Persia came knocking form the other side of the actual Roman Empire it immediately fell apart because they were comically overstretched by this point.
The Rome also got sacked because it had been mistreating its "barbarian" neighbors, and the Visigoths inparticular were kinda starving, so they figured "Screw it! We'll either plunder Rome or die trying!" And lo and behold, they actually succeeded, in part because the Roman army and become so decentralized and undisciplined by then.
the first part is really, but not the second. The wisigoth never won against Rome since Adrinople. They constantly lost their battle against Stilicon. The roman army was certainly not what is was under Augustus or Trajan, but it was still an horrifying adversary for the barbarians who feared any clash against them. The battle of Polentia, Verona and many others tend to prove the exact contrary of what you are saying. And at the death of Stilicon Alaric, king of the wisigoths, burned Rome without facing any army.
Meanwhile, the ghost of Aurelian is like: "Oh sure Blue, give all the credit for Rome surviving the crisis of the third century to Diocletian! It's not like they called me the Restorer of the World or anything." I'm kidding, it was a great video. Obviously, some things get skipped over.
If you're covering the Byzantines, I hope you do a funny part on the Byzantine Silk Heist, a really funny but also super important moment of history when a few monks accidentally discovered how to make silk when overseas and smuggled silkworms back to the Empire, and revolutionized the economy for 6 centuries
I remember the History of Rome podcast came to a similar conclusion: the question everyone asks is "why did Rome fall," when instead the question should probably be "how the heck didn't it fall sooner?" The number of times the republic and empire were facing oblivion, only for a capable leader to come in and pull it back from the brink, is a crazy millennium-long streak of luck.
Well, it’d be more accurate to say he (allegedly) dies from massive internal bleeding caused by poison, one of the symptoms of which is intense bleeding from the nose.
You speak at the perfect pace Blue. Just right to soak in that knowledge. While I love Reds videos, I often have to pause to read the text or give it my full attention. I prefer to relax and learn
Lol I read some conspiracy theories saying that Rome let itself fall because if the world was culturally homogenous, there would not be technological advancement, so some "Powerful Roman figures" let Rome be conquered.
Red: talks fast Blue: talks slow Balanced as all things should be. Imo you both speak fine, good content albeit not as sarcastic as the name implies :p
“This is about the time that you would hope for a strong Diocletian or Constantine type emperor to show up and turn things around right?” Well... Majorian certainly tried his best. And then Ricimer killed him for doing too well.
The History of Rome in Seven Sackings book Blue mentioned at the end is really fun, I used to talk about it with the author's mother (who was the really lovely Judith Kerr, the author of The Tiger Who Came to Tea) before she passed away last month. She was a regular customer in the bookshop where I work, it was nice discussing Rome with her.
@@OverlySarcasticProductions omg thank you Blue I never expected you to see this (I was that random fan you met in London, it's great to talk to you again) - Don
Human history has so much conquests, So much betrayal, So much Intricacy, That it makes Game of Thrones look like a Dr Seuss publication. Credit goes to Oversimplified’s video the 3 kingdoms.
@@vonfaustien3957 The general quote is from Oversimplified's 3 Kingdoms video. As Blue has mentioned the period I don't think I need to lecture you on it.
@12:40 thought it was funny he mentioned this. Not because I think he speaks slow but because just the other day I had to slow Red down because she seems so excited I couldn't keep up. Blue your voice and speed are great. Love you guy's content
To be fair, Constantine wasnt the only one who set out "conquering other tetrarchs", he was just the winner. The Tetrarchy's collapse and civil war was a messy ordeal that could probably get an entire video of its own, and its one of the most overlooked conflicts and periods Basically, when Galerius and Constantius Chlorus took power as Augusti after Diocletian and Maximian's abdications, Galerius leveraged his authority as the de facto most powerful tetrarch to block Maxentius (Maximian's son, and Constantius' choice for his Caesar) from gaining a position in the Tetrarchy, instead strong-arming Constantius into appointing Valerius Severus (Galerius' most loyal officer). This pissed off Maxentius, Constantius, and Constantine (who Maxentius was expected to name as his Caesar) in one go. Constantius, angered about Galerius' succession settlement, then called his son Constantine, to be by his side in leading his armies so he could gain their loyalty. Leukemia took Constantius a year later, and his troops declared him as their Augustus, pissing off Galerius and Valerius Severus, but to avoid civil war they offered him the title of Caesar, which he accepted. Galerius then issued an edict taxing the city of Rome (exempt at the time), the Italian urban cohorts, and praetorians there. Naturally they were livid, so they declared the snubbed Maxentius as Princeps (effectively naming him sole Emperor). Galerius ordered Severus to attack this usurper, who managed to defeat and then execute him. Galerius marched his forces into Italy, prepared to oust Maxentius, but Maxentius was able to bribe a ton of Galerius' soldiers to defect. Galerius fled, encountered friction with his Caesar Maximinus who was no longer being the puppet Galerius had thought he'd be, and under this pressure, changed the system to be 4 co-equal Augusti. Galerius still saw Maxentius as a usurper though, so he named his general Licinius as Augustus in Severus' place. Galerius died, Maximinus succeeded Galerius in Asia, Licinius then got Greece and Illyria. Licinius was at odds with Maxentius and Maximinus was afraid of Licinius. So Maximinus recognized Maxentius as a legitimate Augustus to make an alliance against Licinius, and Licinius offered an alliance to Constantine who also now saw Maxentius as a threat. The first phase ended with Constantine and Licinius in a diarchy, and then after Licinius supposedly reneged on the Edict of Milan (may or may not be true, but at the very least there was enough of a perception of this happening for Constantine to use it as casus belli) Constantine went to war with him and became sole Emperor
The Vandal sack of Rome was actually brilliant done by the genius of their King Gaiseric, and not as brutal as most people were told they mostly just said they wouldn't kill everyone if they were let in, they were and then stole everything and only killed those trying to stop them from stealing.
There are 6 dates 470: legitamate Western Empire falls 476: illegitimate Western Rome falls 1453: Eastern Rome falls 1470: fall of Theodoro splinter of Eastern Rome 1806: Holy Rome falls 1917: Third Rome falls
@@cameronsaulnier6006 it was when Czar Nicholas II abdicated and was later murdered. The early Czars had multiple marriages to the Byzantine royals, and styled themselves as the "Third Rome", though few people took them seriously.
To be perfectly honest emperor majorianus (457-461) was the last western emperor who hold real power. Not only successfully restored roman Authority in gallia and hispania but attempted also economic reform to revitalize the empire. He was planning to reconquer africa but was betrayed and assassinated. All of his successor were mere puppets and were not even recognized outside italy. Even romolus augustus was technically an usurper. The real emperor hold up in Dalmatia until 480 when was kinda absorbed kinda not but the east. And even under odoacer italy was still pretty much roman. Life for a commoner did not changed particularly. Things changed massively during and after the gothic wars and the later arrival of the longobards
@@samtemdo8 That and if you get into Numenor, well...You've got to get into the LOTR and the Silmarillion. And that, my good sirs would be one very long video or series.
Last time I was this early the Library of Alexandria was still around
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great work! none of the usual simplifications... love it! thank's especially for the book tip, since i am working on a video about europas history and why it's so f***ed up and somehow have the feeling, that's exactly the type of source i've been looking for quite a while now.
*grumble, grumble. Forcing me to defend the Tetrarchy. grumble, grumble* The Tetrarchy isn't perfect, but it was a system designed to solve a specific problem: all those coups and assassinations. The reason is simple. The more power you have the more enemies you have. If you share some of that power you also share the enemies and reduce the coup attempts and actually get some work done around here. The little Caesars (junior partners) have an incentive to keep you nice and safe and your senior partner can care the load/blame in running the state. It wasn't perfect, but it was trying to address a big problem in ruling an empire. That's all I got to say.
Is it currently 12:48 in the morning? Yes. Am I about to pass out? Yes. Am I still going to try and force myself awake to watch an entire video of the Fall of Rome that I've been waiting for since first discovering Blue's series detailing the Roman Republic and its downfall + rise + downfall again as the Roman Empire? Absolutely.
It’s very good, but I think you could have gone into more detail on the reasoning of the barbarians. For example the rampage of the Visigoths which seems almost entirely motivated by Roman mistreatment. There is a whole story to be told of many people continuously abused that carved out a home for themselves from the empire that abused them for centuries. But still very much enjoyed the video.
"Next video will be about the city of Hong Kong." Me, having just passed immigration at HK International Airport and walking to the luggage carousel: "Heh, I'll say."
Atilla: "NOTHING'S GONNA STOP ME FROM CONQUERING ROME!" Leo: Hey, Atilla. Want money? Attila: Much obliged. I will leave your empire alone. Now if you'll excuse me, I got a wedding to attend!
5:34 - Those barbarians take me by surprise with one great jump scare! No, seriously - I had to catch my breath because I was genuinely taken aback with their arrival. Well played, Blue. Well played!
2:34 frigging jumpscared by the Barbarians. On a more serious note, there's a reason Rome fell. Centuries of less-than-competent people in charge, inflation, the invasions, and civil unrest took their toll. Also they should've taken a note from Venice and stuck with one system of government and maybe they'd still be around today.
I'm sure it's been mentioned in the comments already, but just wanted to point out that at the time of the sacking of Rome, the city of Rome itself was no longer the capital of the Western Empire, it was Ravenna. The city of Rome had long been passed over as the capital for a while by that point, although it was still a shocking event that it was sacked as it was still seen as an important and culturally significant city.
"The collapse of Roman civilization is brought to you by audible"
That is one impactful company.
I didn’t even know they were around back then
H H I was to busy listening to my audio book to notice Rome collapsing outside my window
@@H20No -Of course audible was big, hardly anyone could read then.
Capitalism smh
Aha
U fools
Die romans
It was your all your fault
Bye bye
Losers
Eeeeeeee
Blue: shows snow in Rome
Me, a Roman: Impossible
*laughs in Firenze*
Laughs in Indonesia
omg I just realized people born in Rome can say Civis Romanus Sum that's cool
All of this could have been avoided if Blue just said Autumn.
Blue is American. They prefer Fall than Autumn.
@@redfaldas7524 that really isn't true America is rather big so certain areas use the term but not all of America.
don't be ridiculous, that would just lead to a warring states period
Red Faldas Nope, I actually quite enjoy saying the word autumn. Some of us say fall, some of us say autumn.
ITS CALLED FALL CAUSE LEAF FALL DOWN.
You know who they needed to unite the Eastern and Western Empires? The expert in uniting East and West. That's right. _David Hasselhoff._
Honestly thought you were going to say Josep Broz Tito.
Stop appearing everywhere
"Ya done good Hasslehoff ya done goo-"
**Empire splits again**
How are you everywhere!!!!!!!
Jellal
I clicked so fast, the east and west empires were still together
Oof
When we're they still together when you clicked? 1600 years ago please make it more clear this doesn't make sense now
Last time I was this early, Rome was still ruled by a king.
Super A you’re the type of person no one wants to invite anywhere because you kill the fun
Nice bro
emperor diocletian pulled a Thanos and just wanted to watch the sun rise on a grateful empire......and then farm
Lolcow Chronicler George Washington
Reminds me of Sulla.
Aurelian: Yeah he totally did all the work... totally
@@ericmalanowski5547 Seriously!! , Aurelian did all the hard work, fought with the barbarians, brought all the lost territories back, but still doesn't get much recognition :( He doesn't even have his ceramic bust ...
"If you could see the cabbages I was growing back in my farm, you too would give up the pursuit of worldly power"
- Diocletian, cabbage farmer
"the fall of the Roman Empire is brought to you by audible! "
god damn so all the theories were wrong it was audible all along
Capitalism smh
@@yonatanbeer3475 Nooo! it's those crazy Christians and conspiracy-driven Hebrews aka. the new guys , Jewish.
Jeff bezos did it I was right all along
@@Mythteller מה
@@terner1234 go speak your daedric somewhere else, Elf
Meanwhile, the ghost of Aurelian is like: "Oh sure Blue, give *all* the credit for Rome surviving the crisis of the third century to Diocletian! It's not like they called me the *Restorer of the World* or anything."
I'm kidding, it was a great video. Obviously, some things get skipped over.
The Restitutor Orbis is magnanimous, and appreciates a historian passionately and excitedly describing the history of his beloved empire. Purple may be the color of the emperor, but Blue is not far off at all.
Horribly skipped
Galianus: bro you wouldn't have had an empire to save if I didn't ducttape it.
And aurelians meritocratic policies let the people like diocletian,probus, constinus chrorus to high places
FUN FACT: It is often proposed and debated by academics that this is what Diocletian wanted, people to forget Aurelian existed and claim his victories for himself
A rather important emperor was left unmentioned: Aurelian. He brought the empire back together before the reign of Diocletian.
Not to mention he helped pave the way for monotheism with his worship of sol invictus
Yep, hard to sum everything up in short video I imagine, but really key person in history.
Another important dude, Majorian. Guy was the last chance western Rome had
@@pergys6991 And as per usual, he got killed before he could properly fix the western part of the Empire.
@@pergys6991 Majorian had fewer resources than his predecessors yet he managed to reconquer much of hispania and gaul from the Visigoths, Franks and Burgundians. He was betrayed by his own countrymen for his unpopular policies which benefited the Western empire but reduced the power and wealth of the aristocrats so they decided to have him killed. The mistake he made was trusting his own countrymen so much that he disbanded his army while on the way back to ravenna. He was captured and executed by ricimer with the support of the senate.
When Diocletian retired to the farm I can only imagine his parting words were: “I’ll finally rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful empire.”
Rome: *Help I've fallen and I cant get up*
Everyone: **suprised pikachu face**
Byzantines: Should've gotten life alert
This is why I love life 😂
Too soon
Nate F not soon enough
@@meatvortexgaming7134 that burn was worse than Neros ;)
The history of Byzantium will of course be much easier to cover. It's not like their name is literally a synonym for "insidiously entangled beyond comprehension."
... oh, wait.
Empire, what did you expect?
Mostly due to Frankish viewpoints but eh
Winter, spring, summer, faaaaaa....
OMG I laughed WAY too hard at that.
Me too.
i gave the vid a like just for that XD
Now I got the song from Avatar stuck in my head...
Same dude same
Between that and the tape advert haha
I can't believe he skipped over the role Aurelian had in saving rome from the crises of the third century :(
Praise the restitutor orbis!
Yeah. Sad no love for him and all other mostly Dalmatian generals who pretty much held Rome together through the entire crisis. They ended to be the competent ones amidst that entire shitshow of a century.
He recently made a whole video on the topic
Blue: The collapse of Rome and civilisation was brought to you by audible
Me: wait What?
_hmm_
The collapse of *Roman* civilization. This is what I get for not enunciating
-B
@@OverlySarcasticProductions I'm more concerned with Audible destroying an entire civilization
@@aclassicguardsman946 Yeah fuck them
That just changes them from being an ancient, world spanning conspiracy which has just brought about the apocalypse to an ancient, Pan-European conspiracy which previously basically brought about a localised apocalypse. It’s a Change in scale, yes, but it still looks rather poor for them doesn’t it.
“The collapse of Roman civilization brought to you by audible”
Audible is now officially a gothic tribe
Rome: *makes reforms to put itself back together*
Also Rome: *disintegrates slowly*
It's kind of invariable. Any civilization that takes upwards of a year to communicate between its border extremities is going to contract until its area becomes more manageable, not matter how wise its leadership is.
@@tyberostheredwake8098 Reminds me of Bill Wurtz's amazing History of the World video where he's like, "China is whole again. Now it's broke again."
LordRadical I would say thier leadership wasn't to wise as with a trend like theye were going through, a wise man would refuse the throne in favor of a longer life
@@tyberostheredwake8098 I disagree, I think the decline of a civilization is inevitable, but this isn't necessarily because the borders were too large. the roman empire was split to provinces to solve this issue.
Rome: lETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS TO DEFEAT THE HUNS
The Huns: Don't even think it.
Rome: nEVER MIND-
+
Meggo My Eggo
Rome: *actually beats the huns at chalons like a boss*
The Huns: was going to invade but the boss getting married!
Rome: phew
DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS
@@BeepBoop173 You're the saddest bunch I've ever met, but bet before we're through, mister I'll make a man out of you
Imagine a Roman-Chinese alliance to take down the Hunnic Empire.
*Christians:* [breathes]
*Nero:* _I'm about to end this man's whole career._
[Angry Constantine noises]
Christians after Nero dies: HA!
*Rome:* Wait. Thats illegal.
Hey it friendship
#Nerodidnothingwrong
Thank you, Blue. Because of this video, I am now hospitalized due to choking on my own laughter. I’ll send you the hospital bill later.
... also, keep up the good work, you make history worth listening too.
Just clicked the video. Don't expect Blue to get through it without breaking down.
Got popcorn.
EDIT: he bore through it with memes
Flex Tape: So powerful, it can keep a historian's emotions together as he discusses the fall of Rome.
Rome has been sacked
Those who were responsible for sacking Rome have now been sacked.
The sackers who sacked the sackers who sacked Rome have now also been sacked.
and bitten by a Møøse
This is obviously a reference to something, but I have no idea what
@@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 Monty Python
@@TheNN Ah okay
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.
You know this better than anyone else my piece of the Emperor
Of course my lord. Also can we smile while we purge?
Ey what you doing here emps don't you have Choas spawn to annoy?
Do you mean the empire or the sackings?
I'm pissed blue didn't even MENTION Aurelian, considering he was literally the RESTORER of THE WORLD.
I'll go pray to Sol now if you don't mind
I am a simple boy.
I see a new Overly Sarcastic Productions video...
I click.
Oh my god this is like the sixtieth time ive heard this terrible joke please stop.
I am a simple girl.
I see a overused joke
I punch the person who said it
This is a meme
Im a simple boy. A see a meme. I agree with it. I press like.
"Ostrogoths, visigoths, lots of goths..."
Cue goth party meme in my head...
The most telling part about how weak the Western Roman Empire was is that it technically never fell. The last ruler was told to shove it when Odoacer rolled into Ravenna, and no one else could take it up again.
Julianus tried, bless him, but the second Persia came knocking form the other side of the actual Roman Empire it immediately fell apart because they were comically overstretched by this point.
Rome: *Falls to savage barbarian tribes*
Me: "They blew it up! Gods damn you! Damn you all to Tartarus!"
The Rome also got sacked because it had been mistreating its "barbarian" neighbors, and the Visigoths inparticular were kinda starving, so they figured "Screw it! We'll either plunder Rome or die trying!"
And lo and behold, they actually succeeded, in part because the Roman army and become so decentralized and undisciplined by then.
the first part is really, but not the second. The wisigoth never won against Rome since Adrinople. They constantly lost their battle against Stilicon. The roman army was certainly not what is was under Augustus or Trajan, but it was still an horrifying adversary for the barbarians who feared any clash against them. The battle of Polentia, Verona and many others tend to prove the exact contrary of what you are saying. And at the death of Stilicon Alaric, king of the wisigoths, burned Rome without facing any army.
Meanwhile, the ghost of Aurelian is like: "Oh sure Blue, give all the credit for Rome surviving the crisis of the third century to Diocletian! It's not like they called me the Restorer of the World or anything."
I'm kidding, it was a great video. Obviously, some things get skipped over.
How one of the most big, advanced and greatest empires in history pulled a Titanic
I think its worse than that. At least Titanic only had a single commanding officer. Rome's leadership seamed to be a revolving door of leaders.
you know what they say, the bigger they are...
The fall of rome could have been prevented if they kept their shoelaces tied.
Or if they'd paid attention to where they were going instead of listening to Audible.
If you're covering the Byzantines, I hope you do a funny part on the Byzantine Silk Heist, a really funny but also super important moment of history when a few monks accidentally discovered how to make silk when overseas and smuggled silkworms back to the Empire, and revolutionized the economy for 6 centuries
"the collapse of the Roman civilization is brought to you by Audible"
AH HA! So it was Audible that caused the fall of Rome!
Capitalism smh
"hopped the wall in gaul to accelerate rome's fall" is so good
Hannibal after the battle of cannae
"THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE"
Alphaghost27 HOW BOUT A LITTLE MORE
@@gargoyles9999 *EURGGHH*
I remember the History of Rome podcast came to a similar conclusion: the question everyone asks is "why did Rome fall," when instead the question should probably be "how the heck didn't it fall sooner?" The number of times the republic and empire were facing oblivion, only for a capable leader to come in and pull it back from the brink, is a crazy millennium-long streak of luck.
When I was younger, I frequently had bloody noses. When I heard that Attila the Hun (allegedly) died of a bloody nose, I freaked out.
Well, it’d be more accurate to say he (allegedly) dies from massive internal bleeding caused by poison, one of the symptoms of which is intense bleeding from the nose.
You speak at the perfect pace Blue. Just right to soak in that knowledge. While I love Reds videos, I often have to pause to read the text or give it my full attention. I prefer to relax and learn
Please do the myth of Persephone please! Also I really love your videos and keep the good work up!
I believe they already, kinda covered it throughout multiple videos.
@@chaostia66t25 Red's covered Pandora, but she's never really gone in-depth on Persephone. I'd like to see that too.
Red covered it in underworld myths, iirc.
(spoiler: It's just the descent of ishtar remixed)
@@maggiemcgonnell6754 well I wanna see it fully like what they did with Io
@@spoiledbeandip2129 I do too. I'm not disagreeing with you, just providing a little context for others.
honestly, with god knows how many other channels on youtube that talk almost incomprehensibly fast, your slow talking is a breath of fresh air
*The Roman Empire fell*
because they got tired of playing Chess with the world
Question is: Who flipped the table?
@@ariesdemiurge The Vandals.
@@Thumbsupurbum I say the damn Romans themselves
Lol I read some conspiracy theories saying that Rome let itself fall because if the world was culturally homogenous, there would not be technological advancement, so some "Powerful Roman figures" let Rome be conquered.
Red: talks fast
Blue: talks slow
Balanced as all things should be.
Imo you both speak fine, good content albeit not as sarcastic as the name implies :p
Also Audible destroyed Rome? Ok, Jeff Bezos is time traveller confirmed.
Well he has the money,
“This is about the time that you would hope for a strong Diocletian or Constantine type emperor to show up and turn things around right?”
Well... Majorian certainly tried his best. And then Ricimer killed him for doing too well.
Dude, you gotta talk about the Varangian Guard, it’s the most awesome thing ever!
based
“And you’d hope for a Diocletian or Constantine like emperor to rule the west but NOPE”
Majorian: *am I a joke to you*
Aetius: *raging Markiplier*
Stilicho: *intense eye twitching*
The fall of Rome is brought to you by audible, even Hannibal approves!
1:25 Rofl, that fits so perfectly. Now Angela Lansberry's singing voice is stuck in my head.
Rip to her
The AC Brotherhood soundtrack is appreciated.
I got to hand it to you Blue, that intro really got me.
The History of Rome in Seven Sackings book Blue mentioned at the end is really fun, I used to talk about it with the author's mother (who was the really lovely Judith Kerr, the author of The Tiger Who Came to Tea) before she passed away last month. She was a regular customer in the bookshop where I work, it was nice discussing Rome with her.
That's so sweet :) I'm glad you were able to have that experience with her. Sorry to hear about her passing.
-B
@@OverlySarcasticProductions omg thank you Blue I never expected you to see this (I was that random fan you met in London, it's great to talk to you again) - Don
I love how Romulus Augustulus is the equivalent of a president naming themselves “Washington F. Kennedy”
All roads lead to Rome....country roads take me Rome
Aurelian...no, okay. It's okay Blue i'm not made about that, benefit of the doubt you just forgot.
Human history has so much conquests, So much betrayal, So much Intricacy, That it makes Game of Thrones look like a Dr Seuss publication.
Credit goes to Oversimplified’s video the 3 kingdoms.
Wrong continent and wrong century.
@@artofthepossible7329
Entirely correct concept though, which is the point.
Got thrones was based off a real succession crisis.
@@vonfaustien3957 The general quote is from Oversimplified's 3 Kingdoms video. As Blue has mentioned the period I don't think I need to lecture you on it.
@@festethephule7553 See? He gets it.
Be careful Rome, because...fall is coming.
That was a game of thrones reference by the way.
Hey, you're a pretentious smartass.
That was an insult, by the way.
You know, I'm oddly satisfied that I can say where the word "Vandalism" comes from.
Who’s watching this after the Byzantine empire fell?
Edit: if this doesn’t get at least a couple billion likes I’m suing the world for lying
Everything must fall, even....
Glorious Rome.
*sheads a tear*
@12:40 thought it was funny he mentioned this. Not because I think he speaks slow but because just the other day I had to slow Red down because she seems so excited I couldn't keep up. Blue your voice and speed are great. Love you guy's content
what OSPodcast is evolving?
It evolved into *full history video*
"The collapse of the Roman civilization was brought to you by audible"
Wow, I didnt realize it was that powerful of a company.
Next episode, OSPlays Total War Attila!
_(sounds of Blue screaming as the Western Empire collapses)_
There's even a handy guide to help them.
th-cam.com/video/ZN0vysCzu24/w-d-xo.html
Another idea: OSPlays Rome Total War original!
(*red and blue simultaneously screaming in the vague direction of Egypt*)
To be fair, Constantine wasnt the only one who set out "conquering other tetrarchs", he was just the winner. The Tetrarchy's collapse and civil war was a messy ordeal that could probably get an entire video of its own, and its one of the most overlooked conflicts and periods
Basically, when Galerius and Constantius Chlorus took power as Augusti after Diocletian and Maximian's abdications, Galerius leveraged his authority as the de facto most powerful tetrarch to block Maxentius (Maximian's son, and Constantius' choice for his Caesar) from gaining a position in the Tetrarchy, instead strong-arming Constantius into appointing Valerius Severus (Galerius' most loyal officer). This pissed off Maxentius, Constantius, and Constantine (who Maxentius was expected to name as his Caesar) in one go. Constantius, angered about Galerius' succession settlement, then called his son Constantine, to be by his side in leading his armies so he could gain their loyalty. Leukemia took Constantius a year later, and his troops declared him as their Augustus, pissing off Galerius and Valerius Severus, but to avoid civil war they offered him the title of Caesar, which he accepted. Galerius then issued an edict taxing the city of Rome (exempt at the time), the Italian urban cohorts, and praetorians there. Naturally they were livid, so they declared the snubbed Maxentius as Princeps (effectively naming him sole Emperor). Galerius ordered Severus to attack this usurper, who managed to defeat and then execute him. Galerius marched his forces into Italy, prepared to oust Maxentius, but Maxentius was able to bribe a ton of Galerius' soldiers to defect. Galerius fled, encountered friction with his Caesar Maximinus who was no longer being the puppet Galerius had thought he'd be, and under this pressure, changed the system to be 4 co-equal Augusti. Galerius still saw Maxentius as a usurper though, so he named his general Licinius as Augustus in Severus' place. Galerius died, Maximinus succeeded Galerius in Asia, Licinius then got Greece and Illyria. Licinius was at odds with Maxentius and Maximinus was afraid of Licinius. So Maximinus recognized Maxentius as a legitimate Augustus to make an alliance against Licinius, and Licinius offered an alliance to Constantine who also now saw Maxentius as a threat. The first phase ended with Constantine and Licinius in a diarchy, and then after Licinius supposedly reneged on the Edict of Milan (may or may not be true, but at the very least there was enough of a perception of this happening for Constantine to use it as casus belli) Constantine went to war with him and became sole Emperor
How I wish this was made during the time when I was studying Rome in school for social studies.
Is it fair to call the Byzantine Empire "Diet Rome"?
Why?
@@Raximus3000 Just for the taste of it.
@@stein1919
It did hurt far less that the roman one, lol.
Just one calorie...
@@Raximus3000 Because it's Rome...but not as Roman. ;)
How to start the Fall of Rome (for dummies)
Step 1) Wait until Autumn.
The Vandal sack of Rome was actually brilliant done by the genius of their King Gaiseric, and not as brutal as most people were told they mostly just said they wouldn't kill everyone if they were let in, they were and then stole everything and only killed those trying to stop them from stealing.
There are 6 dates
470: legitamate Western Empire falls
476: illegitimate Western Rome falls
1453: Eastern Rome falls
1470: fall of Theodoro splinter of Eastern Rome
1806: Holy Rome falls
1917: Third Rome falls
what happened to Constantinople in 1911?
1945. Don't forget that year.
@@cameronsaulnier6006 it was when Czar Nicholas II abdicated and was later murdered. The early Czars had multiple marriages to the Byzantine royals, and styled themselves as the "Third Rome", though few people took them seriously.
@SucamelotuttominchionedelKaiser GuymanGuy thank you. I forgot about Julius Nepos and didn't know some people consider Theodoro as a holdout
@@paulwagner688 1945 doesn't count. No "empire" claimants, only dictators with "republican" titles
To be perfectly honest emperor majorianus (457-461) was the last western emperor who hold real power. Not only successfully restored roman Authority in gallia and hispania but attempted also economic reform to revitalize the empire. He was planning to reconquer africa but was betrayed and assassinated.
All of his successor were mere puppets and were not even recognized outside italy.
Even romolus augustus was technically an usurper. The real emperor hold up in Dalmatia until 480 when was kinda absorbed kinda not but the east.
And even under odoacer italy was still pretty much roman.
Life for a commoner did not changed particularly.
Things changed massively during and after the gothic wars and the later arrival of the longobards
I wanna see Red do the Fall of Numenor.
In many ways it is a retelling of the fall of Rome. Just we know it was Sauron doing it :)
@@RibonFox Less Rome and more Atlantis.
@@samtemdo8 That and if you get into Numenor, well...You've got to get into the LOTR and the Silmarillion. And that, my good sirs would be one very long video or series.
@@morgant.dulaman8733 It could be a series like Journey to the West.
The Fall of Gondolin is a somewhat more interesting story IMO, though a lot more obscure even to LOTR fans being a First Age event.
3:57 - Strictly speaking, the Chi and Rho symbols put together also mean, "It's Time", giving the brand a fortuitous double meaning.
When you’re so early you don’t know what to say.
Relatable
Matarael, Angel of Rain
Um.. good, I think...
diocletian: applies flex tape
the tank: explodes
Last time I was this early the Library of Alexandria was still around
great work! none of the usual simplifications... love it! thank's especially for the book tip, since i am working on a video about europas history and why it's so f***ed up and somehow have the feeling, that's exactly the type of source i've been looking for quite a while now.
Phil Swift in the background
[Many people liked that]
2:30, 8:30
Barbarians see fragmenting Roman Empire:
Barbarians: "It's free real estate!"
*grumble, grumble. Forcing me to defend the Tetrarchy. grumble, grumble*
The Tetrarchy isn't perfect, but it was a system designed to solve a specific problem: all those coups and assassinations. The reason is simple. The more power you have the more enemies you have. If you share some of that power you also share the enemies and reduce the coup attempts and actually get some work done around here. The little Caesars (junior partners) have an incentive to keep you nice and safe and your senior partner can care the load/blame in running the state. It wasn't perfect, but it was trying to address a big problem in ruling an empire.
That's all I got to say.
Is it currently 12:48 in the morning? Yes. Am I about to pass out? Yes. Am I still going to try and force myself awake to watch an entire video of the Fall of Rome that I've been waiting for since first discovering Blue's series detailing the Roman Republic and its downfall + rise + downfall again as the Roman Empire? Absolutely.
Wait, wasn't Commodus strangling naked in the bath by his wrestling partner narcissus? Not stabbed in the Colosseum by Russel Crowe?
Correct you are. That was lazy and misleading word choice on my part.
-B
It’s very good, but I think you could have gone into more detail on the reasoning of the barbarians. For example the rampage of the Visigoths which seems almost entirely motivated by Roman mistreatment. There is a whole story to be told of many people continuously abused that carved out a home for themselves from the empire that abused them for centuries.
But still very much enjoyed the video.
I once visited Rome, the temple of Saturn was great to see. And the fountain was amazing!
Don't want to be the nerd, but the western part of Rome moved its capital to Mediolanum by 286, and again to Ravenna by 402.
Loved the video, you guys always make my day 😁
"No, stupid, it was Constantine with the christianity in 312!" *Cuts to an old man beating a legionnaire with a cross*
"Next video will be about the city of Hong Kong."
Me, having just passed immigration at HK International Airport and walking to the luggage carousel: "Heh, I'll say."
0:10
So the amazons caused Rome to fall?
Atilla: "NOTHING'S GONNA STOP ME FROM CONQUERING ROME!"
Leo: Hey, Atilla. Want money?
Attila: Much obliged. I will leave your empire alone. Now if you'll excuse me, I got a wedding to attend!
Then promptly dies of over drinking, over partying, nosebleed, and a heart attack while inside a teenaged girl.
5:34 - Those barbarians take me by surprise with one great jump scare! No, seriously - I had to catch my breath because I was genuinely taken aback with their arrival. Well played, Blue. Well played!
You want history? YOU’RE GETTING MEMES
When the Barbs be like, this building. It's too big! We can't destroy it! AHHHHHH!!!
The Roman Empire holds Rome.
If it doesn't hold Rome, then it ain't Rome.
Rome is the zombie of empires. You always think it is dead, and always bounce's back.
until 1453 that is
@@saminyasar2765 El duce want's to have a talk with you
@@comradekoupetorska4253 Before or after 1945?
Most underrated Emperor Aurelian
Most overrated Diocletian
Nah, I agree with the former but disagree with the latter
2:34 frigging jumpscared by the Barbarians.
On a more serious note, there's a reason Rome fell. Centuries of less-than-competent people in charge, inflation, the invasions, and civil unrest took their toll.
Also they should've taken a note from Venice and stuck with one system of government and maybe they'd still be around today.
Phil: Flex taps can fix anything
Blue: Yes.
Everyone not Roman: *snaps*
Rome: *disintegrates*
I'm sure it's been mentioned in the comments already, but just wanted to point out that at the time of the sacking of Rome, the city of Rome itself was no longer the capital of the Western Empire, it was Ravenna. The city of Rome had long been passed over as the capital for a while by that point, although it was still a shocking event that it was sacked as it was still seen as an important and culturally significant city.
The fall of the empire was 1453. Not Rome. The city fell earlier. (Idk when.)
476
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