Did Fallout 4 Deserve The Hate? I Played it Again in 2024...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2024
- During my recent playthrough of Fallout 4 I found myself asking whether or not the game deserved some of the criticism it got on launch. The more I thought about the more I realised the issues are just symptoms of a larger problem.
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FALLOUT 4 was my first game in the series. Beforehand I'd never heard of the series. I got it as a gift on the PS4, and I enjoyed my playthrough and fell in love with the settlement system and streamline gameplay. As years went on, I'd went back to play FO 3 and NV. I do like them both but my nostalgia hits hard for 4; the opening in the main menu with the power armor. Even through the countless bugs and glitches, still my favorite. Hope they release an "Enhanced" edition soon.
They are, this month
@@samburgerwithcheeze8145they actually made the game worse with the "next-gen" update.
@@Smorgasvordgood news they just fixed it yesterday they released a patch so far on Ps5 I have only had 2 crashes in the past 2 weeks runs good for me
" @alexpointo6516 3 weeks ago "
Love you mate: Fallout 4 Rocks !
All of you guys:
You want (almos) NO crashes, or maybe one CTD every 2 - 3 month, or no CTD at all ?
(all depending on your machine and crazy os environments)
Here we go !
Disable ALL auto-saves in F4 in-game settings.
Yes, ALL of then !
No Autosave on sleep, travel, open-close pip-boy, etc !
(then use quiksave regularly)
In Fallout 4, No autosaves = no CDT.
Have Fun !
Edit reasons : removed some drama ...
It's a good game, it was just disappointing for what we came to expect from a fallout game. The dialogue system was a huge mistake. I honestly think if they didn't change that and the skill/perk system, it would've been received a lot better.
I like the shortened version of text, but I would prefer it being more accurate to what the character is actually saying. + karma system and game would be PERFECT
@@lold6d2 I see you're choosing the sarcastic option rn
@@lold6d2 the longer dialogue options are an integral part of fallout for me
@@Dogtles well tbh majority of old fallout dialogues could be shortened
@@lold6d2 do you mean by picking 1 intelligence?
Well put together video, nice editing and commentating. Good audio quality.
Takes some time to put the videos together, thank you for your time :)
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The common narrative around F4 was not that it was bad, but it was disappointing. Don’t forget that leading up to its announcement Fallout 4 was one of those mythical games like Half life 3 and GTA 6 until recently. It was one of the most hyped up games ever. And it released the same year as one of the greatest rpgs ever made in Witcher 3. So when we get the game and it is ugly graphically, filled with the usual Bethesda bugs, lacking in the depth of decision making that were in previous games, and just the overall package being not great, that’s a disappointment. The game was severely outclassed by Witcher 3 and even some other games just in that year alone. Not to mention other better games released prior and beyond. Fallout 4 was supposed to be the next genre defining game and it just wasn’t. It’s a good game, but not great and it never will be.
My biggest complaints at launch were the story, the lack of choice and decision making, and the even more watered down RPG elements. Gunplay and world were great. Some of the side quests were good.
But there's more nonsensical plotholes in the main story than swiss cheese, and overall, it felt uninspiring.
you nailed it on the head comparing it with W3 which came out the same year.
i never thought FO4 was even a good game. its purely mediocre and being carried by its branding just like every single shit Blizzard makes.
The "games journalists suck at games" thing rubs me the wrong way. I think some criticisms of opinions are valid - like the guardian snippet you showed. But firstly, I dont think journalists always get to pick what they review. So no, they wont always be good at the thing they're reviewing. But additionally, if a new player is reading the review, someone who has never played a Bethesda title, that information is still valuable, because the reviews arent just for people who are familiar with the series. New players should know that they get kicked into autosave deathloops, etc.
The criticism that autosaves will boot you into a deathloop is a valid one. It's been an issue for Bethesda since before Skyrim. One they havent taken many proactive steps to actually fix.
You're right. I was actually making a reference to a big internet meme, but I didn't put that on screen so it really doesn't come across. Google Dean Takahashi and cuphead. As someone with a low cringe threshold I literally can't watch the footage to put it in the video.
When you're looking for a dumb take on anything the Guardian is first on the list.
Gosh darrnit you figured out my whole youtube script methodology :P
I remember my dad bought me fallout 4 on ps4 at the time, and like an idiot I never launched the game since he bought it, and it was only a year later that I decided to play it and it was the first time I played a fallout game, so the atomic bomb scene at the beginning was already incredible, then seeing all the wild robots, ghouls and everything else for the first time, I was really into it ahahha, i even managed to beat the game and all dlc cause of how good i was in, idk how peoples say that its bad, im gonna play and beat new vegas with a mod pack this month!
They only don't like it when they compare it to F3 and NV. Those games had more of an impact when they dropped and improved on the series(they have not aged well), but FO4 is definitely not bad. Mt favorite is still F:NV but only because of nostalgic reasons.
@@JayAyeEff ok so its my first time playing Fallout NV with a modpack that remaster it while staying vanilla, and what i think about at the moment is that its a game that trully didn't aged well at all, FO4 is far superior in terms of mechanics and all which makes a lot of sense, i don't like fallout new vegas map that much since its basically the desert, im more of a dead city dude xD, but yeah for peoples who like cow boy and fallout its very good, and the dialogues are better than fo4
@@JayAyeEff yeah i replayed new vegas and the gameplay is so shi that i had to install a full modpack that cause crash in some area haha, but only nostalgia can make it better than fo4, cause fo4 have bad stuff that you can fix with mod, so does fo nv or 3 lmao
@r3tr0_st89 the choices, story, and dlc of NV were the best in the series...but the mechanics of FO4 were better by far. Lol with the way the creation engine was/is the hit boxes were so bad that VATS was the only way most people could even play it and shoot accurately.
@@JayAyeEff ahahahah exactly !!
We're back once again with more fun with gaming journalists. Did you guys actually enjoy Fallout 4 on your first playthrough?
Edit: HOLY CRAP this video got a better response than I was expecting. The Fallout community is so awesome thanks for all the positivity. More videos to come!!
Really nice video production keep up the good work!
Aww thanks dude!
Good video! I must say though that I find it really strange and tiring to talk down the current day AAA game industry when it's still really good (despite a lot of bad things too) when just last year we had one of the best years of all time when it came to releases and this year hasn't been bad (overall) so far either.
To be clear I'm not talking about the terrible state of layoffs etc just the game releases themselves.
I had trouble because survival on console (I can’t afford a pc) is just unplayable when you’ve made huge progress and the game just crashes. It’s a decent game, I loved the workshop in it. But it felt like for such a huge game, it lacks in certain areas
New vegas is a masterpiece. Get the graphics mods and anticrash mod and you're good to go. I've jumped back into it and i cannot put it down
I played fo4 right after it got released. Back then I was already a big fan of fallout as I played f2, finished 3 and fell in love with New Vegas.
Fo4 is not a bad game and it was not a bad game even after release but what made me mad was lack of content. Game without mods feels empty, also a lot of story elements feel like missed opportunity. For example the institute. Supposed to be a bogeyman, always lurking powerfull organization.
And at the same time there is not a single institute weapon that would reflect how technologically advanced they are.
That is just one example of things that made me a bit disappointed. Still even with just a few mods I love to play f4 from time to time.
They had their own power armor but it was scrapped
@@doff1395 I heard about that, Such a shame
Nice, this was good. I enjoyed the game and still play it regularly, but I can't deny it was a step back in a lot of ways from their previous games. It wasn't enough to make me not play it but I did often feel a sense of loss. It's a shame we're having to wait so long to see if they learned anything from the game that can be applied to the series to make it better in the future. In fact, I'd say these long breaks they take during the development of games in other series is part of the reason the games have gotten worse with each installment rather than getting better like they should have. By the time they start working on the next one the issues of the previous game are a distant memory.
I have 2500 hours on unmodded FO4, I think it’s pretty good.
One thing so many people sleep on is the stupid level scaling for every single enemy and the level list of the equipment in the entire game.
The game turns into a bullet sponge fest the more you level up unless you play with mods and disable this system (which guess what, doesn't exist in New Vegas, which uses a much more immersive fixed level system).
Fallout 4 is a good game sure, but it's a really bad roleplaying game.
My first fallout game was fallout 3. I asked my mom for halo 3 and something was lost in translation.
Being a kid with no job when fallout nv came around the amount of different events based on how dumb or smart my character was. and the many different events and endings made playing through the game multiple times actually different. everytime the NPC actually reacted differently based on the kind of character i played. Really left a strong impression.
For fallout 4 that's not the case. No matter what you say to anyone the end result is almost always the same. They're no branching outcomes for any of the companions or factions at all. There's no ending slides of the people you met talking about their life after meeting you.
I never played the fallout games for the looting or gunplay i understand fallout 4 is the easiest game to get into but damn we lost a lot for it
Legit comment. Yeah, actually got a video on this coming up.
You're inhumanly fast at reading@@oldmanbanjo
I finished it a few times, the game was good, but did not execute the feeling of you actually making a lasting impact on the wasteland as well as previous titles. Is it bad no, the shortfall it does have was blown completely out of proportion
I’ve only done 2 play through but clocked up plenty of hours on pc no mods and I think it’s amazing yea there’s some buggy problems the worst for me is when building settlements like where some objects will clip to really makes no sense like why can I clip the string lights on a angle going through the wall but I can’t place it flat on the wall it’s kinda annoying but still no hat for the game. Plus Bethesda is og game franchise so you can’t say they don’t know what they are doing.
i have about 350 hours in Fallout 4 and still probably missed things. my only gripe was the settlement defense system. you should of been able to make defenses, have any settlers deal with attacks and repairs
Why the map looks so colorful and vibrant at 8:33?
Is that part of the game's map or is it from mod?
That's just the map on max graphics.
@@oldmanbanjo What?
Why isn't mine like that?
@@Noir-Force Uhm. Maybe your monitors saturation is down? Or the refresh rate isn't high enough? There could be a lot of factors.
@@oldmanbanjo I mean my only map is the black and white version on pip-boy
Yours is colorful
@@Noir-Forceit's the fallout 76 map
When I was 13, two friends and I got together and wrote an email, to Bethesda, about how they could improve their game. In it we requested base building in pre selected locations using terminal options to change parts of the cell. We begged for Co-op. We thought a quite a few other things I either forget or am far too ashamed to admit. Then we titled it "Ways to fix Fallout New Vegas."
I apologise profusely. I learned my lesson. Im done trying to play god.
IMO I feel like the problem with alot of bethesda games is the game engine and their refusal to switch or build a new one and, correct me if im wrong but, they just seem to update it which looking at starfield, it results in annoying bugs, ugly graphics, stupid npc's, etc. It is just fundamentally bad and its like bethesda is always a generation behind in graphics just look at the witcher and compare it to FO4. Its the same when you compare almost any other game that released in the same year as starfield and how much better everything, especially npc's, look compared to it. Not to mention that they still havent figured out how to code a car, which ive heard is due to the shit physics engine, aswell as relying completeley on world states which I dont mind but the way they executed it in starfield was HORRIBLE. I thought they meant that you visit a solar system and you can travel around and go to the different planets/ space stations but theres a loading screen when u want to land or exit the solar system, this was not the case unfortunately and it meant the game turned into menu and load screen simulator and it wasnt so bad because I have a m.2 ssd but It was still annoying and immersion breaking and I did actually like the game, I was lucky and never got really any bugs and it may have crashed once which comparing that to how much FONV crashes in just an hour is nothing, however I just got bored and fed up of having to load everytime and it was just very clunky and I ended up getting close to the end of the game but never finishing it. Got a bit sidetracked but they just need to change their engine and maybe hire another team to work on fallout/ get obsidian to do it if they want to capitalize on the show
Dude, I absolutely agree. It's kind of what I said in this video, but I'm doing another video on the creation engine itself. But it's going to require a lot of research because I don't want to say things that false about it.
I finished the game unmodded once all subsequent playthrough where modded and didn't bother finishing the main quest
I just played this after the show I’ve never been into fallout and I think this games great doesn’t deserve the hate all tho the minutemen missions are repetitive af unless that’s just bc I haven’t put any defenses on other sanctuary’s
F4 scratches a certain itch that nothing else can
So true :)
I don't exactly follow mainstream publications for gaming reviews, but among the nerdy critics it seemed the main point of contention with Fallout 4 was that they'd truly ironed out the last bit of "RPG" still remaining in Bethesda's take on the franchise. Voiced protagonists took away a lot of choice in defining your character and the dialogue options often amounted to 4 different ways of saying "yes, I agree".
I quite enjoyed the game purely as an action-adventure scavenging simulator. The settlement building was janky, but gave you a good reason to explore every location you came across for items you might need for your construction projects. It made me engage with the environment in a way I hadn't before in a Bethesda sandbox.
I also played it 6 months after release, with no unofficial patches applied, and encountered no major bugs. Which I definitely can't say about Skyrim, which *still* requires the fan patch for entire questlines to not break. Maybe I got lucky, but it didn't seem that broken by Bethesda standards.
I had a lot of fun with Fallout 4 once I figured out the mechanics of the game.
Fallout 4 is amazing! I only found it last year. And it's in my top 5 GOATs, with ME:LE, Dead Space and Starfield. I love Fallout 4. Especially with Sim Settlements 2 installed
I love the game. I’ll admit maybe the damage could be better balanced & survival saving could be more forgiving with the saves, but mods will always keep the game alive 😁
Although not the best i think it IS the best in terms of beginner friendly. It simplifies many aspects in other fallout games and because the story isnt the greatest it actually lets players feel a sense of freedom and uniqueness. Its very, pretty fallout games considered and overall is a great launch pad to try all the other titles
I love it, I play it a couple a times a year. I've played the others, but 4 is where I always end up.
Nice video bro
Great game. I’m playing it yet again in 2024
You're right about game journalism. It's a shell of what it was 20 years ago.
Lack of skill checks and other rpg aspects that change your story as you play based on the character you’ve created.
Yeah, so is a video I've got in the works on the 'de-RPGIFICATION' of RPGs. And Fallout 4 is one of the games in that video.
I never liked Fallout actually. I'm still not entirely a huge fan, but I am playing 3, 4 and NV concurrently now. I'm hoping something will click, that I can say I was just missing something. I don't know what it was, I was just always more into fantasy rather than post apocalyptic and when Fallout 3 came out I just saw it as Elder Scrolls with a different lick of paint. Hopefully if I can get over that I might enjoy it more.
The biggest problem on ps4 version is lack of updates to actually fix the game, since it can crash every 3-4 minutes after Nuka World dlc update. This is the main reason why I fear that there might be a big backlash after the next gen update.
PS. I recommend playing this game on PC, since there are mods that can solve most of those problems.
i was pleasantly surprised with fallout 76 they fixed that game up been dumping hours into it with a buddy its way better than launch as someone who played at launch goes to show when Bethesda wants to they can do good
One of the things that bothers me so much is that Bethesda gets such a huge pass for releasing games with game breaking bugs.
Fallout 4 was my introduction to Bethesda games, once I figured out a few game tricks, I felt more invested in the Commonwealth, and did more runs of Fallout 4 than a lot of other games.
Compared to other Bethesda games I've tried: Skyrim Anniversary Edition, Fallout 3, Fallout 76, and Starfield, it's still my favourite game of the lot, and playing through it is pretty much an annual tradition now.
I think it'll always have a nostalgic place in my heart, and that Starfield might feel just as deep and complex in a year or two of modding and DLC.
I had played new vegas when i was much younger when i couldn't really appreciate it so when i played fallout 4 it was like a fresh new experience and i thought the game was incredible but once i revisted new vegas and fo3 i realised that the rpg mechanics and choices were just far better. I still will always return to fo4 from time to time because i like the shooting and power armor
Every one of their games has been janky to certain degrees. The one that was the most bug free was actually Starfield.
FO4 was a great game. I think the issue was the driving story in FO4, the search for a boy you really do not give a F about :) But if you ignored and just did the stumble through the landscape it was just fantastic.
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I replayed it today, I did the enclave devil mission. That was actually pretty cool.
I don't like the washed out color pallet.
It's an ok game, it's missing the rpg part and needs more substance.
It wasn’t a bad game at all I don’t even understand the hate. It was one of my favorite games of all time and my first fallout game
Well Fallout 4 is very different from all the other Fallout games. Mainly because because there is no level cap, no perk system that gives you drawbacks, etc.
Me playing fo1, 2, tactics and NV before touching even ten minutes of a bethesda fallout game. This game didn't even deserve a launch let alone hate.
I love Fallout 4. Great game. If have played the series right from Fallout 1.
Pretty much any game that Bethesda release on launch is buggy, mostly due to rushed development but mostly cause the games are so large now and that they push the generation system to their limit that they practically have to be as they need time to fix the issues.
Bethesda games have a rep that overtime the games do get better once fixed but a lot of players are in rush for the next game and most don't stick around for it.
This is why i rarely buy any games at launch anymore cause 99% of the time they will probably have issues so i wait it out and than play it. i might miss the hype train but at least i can play and have fun a lot easier and i can save a little pocket money later too, not to mention i can buy the full dlcs included versions.
which will make it more easier for me in the long run.
I just started playing the game recently, which I never planned on doing. Because like everyone else, I was told that Fallout 4 was a stain and blight on the series, second only to 76.
Then I started playing and discovered it's actually a really good open world looter shooter with meh to great quests. People say it's less of an RPG then previous games, which may be true a little bit, but it is still an RPG. Its RPG bits have just been simplified and honed to a point where it can come off more mindless, but really it's mostly more refined.
The main story of Fallout 4 isn't great, then again I don't think it ever needed to be or was intended to be super great. The main story of Fallout 4 is just there to get you out into the open world, which is really fun to explore and is filled with some of the best quests in the whole series.
If you've never tried Fallout 4 because of all the hate its gotten, just give it a fair try. I think it's a real Dark Souls 2 situation.
Fallout 4 is good !! I played it the other day from 12am till 6am ! Survival mode is the way any fallout game should be played !
Coming from Skyrim (previous Bethesda game), it was a lesser game. Primarily for one reason for me, the voiced Protagonist and too detailed a back story of the MC. It limited the rpg-ness for me.
Besides all that, on its own merits, it is a wonderful game.
Fallout 4 is a fun game if you play to its strengths. It's an action rpg (light on the rpg), it has interesting POI's and side quests, weapon modding, settlement building, good companion variety including robots, and tons of mods that vastly improve the game. If you're playing it for its story, meaningful player choices, or dialogue options, you'll be disappointed.
Yep I still have a vivid memory of playing it day one and honestly thinking I might have put SPECIAL points in the wrong place or something due to the dialogue being so bad. It still has the best shooting/customization of all the fallouts but imo story/choices matter more for this franchise.
well games unplayable on pc and have to wait a week for it to be launchable at least console players get to play though so good for them
I say fallout 4 as a game is good and enjoyable but as a fallout game it's a step down from previous titles. Now I still like the game and find myself returning to it from time to time especially with mods. If fallout 4 was the first ever fallout i think it would be universally praised
yes
The PARTS of FO4 are fun. The pieces are fun. The GAME PLAY is fun.
But a game is more than gameplay nowadays - unless it's so abstract as to have no need of reason, a game is a foundation of gameplay and engaging systems with the structure of characters, plot, world and all the accoutrements of what amounts to a movie series built on top. The foundation stones that made FO4's foundation were good stones. But the structure built atop never lined up with those core elements, it never 'fit' the foundation they had made.
Same thing can be said of Starfield, only more so. The core elements are essentially fun elements - barring some rough edges for systems Bethesda had little experience with (ship combat, I'm looking squarely at you). But cutting corners, misunderstanding what made elements engaging and fun, and not really matching the game story with the game play means you get ... Starfield.
Yeah, spot on dude. You're basically saying a bunch of stuff I cut from this video to keep it under 10 minutes. I'm trying a new rule with myself after my last hour and a half long video flopped - brevity. Let's see how that works for me.
@oldmanbanjo if asmongold keep uploading 1h video you can keep uploading 1h video. People will watch.
I would be down to get 2 version of the same video
@@oldmanbanjo Hey, I did enjoy your last LAD video. So much that I had to stop sometime early because I didn't want to spoil myself the game, as I haven't played it yet, and you made a really nice advertisement for it. Alas, I am not everyone I guess.
Explanation of hate on bethesda and current fallout games.
Heads up i use these () as a way to put a message within a sentence; try to follow along, sorry for my lazy management of wording but it gets the point across
They made the recent fallout games; fallout 76 and 4 like "disney" in the way they changed the dark artstyle the older games had to a newer(like the hombs dropped 20 years ago instead of 200)"colorful" look(which many mods for Fallout 4 change that) and they also made the stories garbage; like fallout 76 each npc you meet feels like a happy go lucky person ripped from a disney movie even the raiders, again something to do with the artstyle, writing and voice acting.
That's the main reason people praise New Vegas is because it's npc's, and atmosphere absolutely slays compared to fallout 4's cut content of a story.
Which is funny because New Vegas had ALOT of cut content since it was made in 18 months, which when you think about how the best fallout game bethesda "made" was developed by obsidian reusing some fallout 3 assets; and with how it only took 18 months; fans want to know why they can't just pop out a New Vegas level fallout game(OR a actual dlc like nuka world or far harbor) every four years since obsidian showed its possible in 18 months.
But yeah fans are fed up; especially me; I have been modding fallout and arma as of the past few years and I really don't see why we don't get more; Modders in their bedrooms (not million dollar buildings with expensive equipment to do it right without the creation kit crashing and losing all that was done) are making new games like FOLON and The frontier(let's not talk about the drama behind the frontier plez, not wut this about; I just brought it up because they added drivable cars to the creation engine which again modders in their bedrooms)
The answer simply is; bethesda is a company comprised of greedy lazy developers.
Luckily in the fallout tv show; they actually make it not "disney"
There's a very good reason why people love New Vegas despite all its technical issues that still aren't fully resolved.
It's just a great game.
Unlike Fallout 4, which can't be saved really.
I'll give it last try, I'm searching and downloading a ton of mods to turn it into something enjoyable - balance overhaul, removing legendaries, bringing back skills and proper perks, etc.
The story is still a piece of crap, but at least it can be turned from looter-shooter into something more playable and enjoyable.
If it doesn't work - I'll just wait for something like Fallout Nevada for F4 - a total conversion mod with new story that is more true to original games.
People complain about how this fallout character has a past experience with things and just a past in general not making it an “rpg” but they seem to forget about fallout 3 and new Vegas where they literally tell you your past lmaoooo, I mean come on, courier literally blew a place up on accident, and yet people don’t care about that bullshit lore drop and retcon, which btw new vegas is responsible for half the retcon things that happen, cause it was made by people who yes know what they’re doing but also just made some bullshit story up that would never fly in og fallout games
Yes
Too bad I can't boot it up bc BETHESDA WONT FIX THE DLC LOAD UP CRASH BUG 😂
Fallout 4 was not a bad game at all. Yes there were some things that was rough like the majority of the dialogue options having the same results, and even high endgame unbalanced scaling style (100+ levels) where enemies become damage sponges and stronger than you instead of being on the sweetspot and finally some weapons to be underperforming greatly *minigun*. Does it deserve the hate? no, its a good game imo. Could it be better? yes, if they added so much gameplay mechs from fallout nv it will be the best one by far.
I like it! I like it so!
We’ve come full circle with Fallout 4
Fallout 4 is the end all be all game it’s literally got everything any video game world needs and with the addition of mods this game has no ends it knows no limits only bound by humanity and it’s imagination this game is truly a masterpiece a staple of entertainment nothing no game can come close to what fallout 4 delivers in base form it’s an open world filled with adventure realistic lore and a ton of hardship however Bethesda knew the modding scene is the next level for gaming they simply given you the player your own tools to make your own video game and they did it on console imagine that also idk where you’re getting at with the bugs of fallout 4 this game as of right now is solid doesn’t crash I can be in downtown Boston straight stroking my shi nothing will happen not even a loss of fps all on my mini fridge
I’ve always enjoyed fallout4. It’s my favorite, though I understand why it’s not every fallout fans taste.
The gameplay was great. The story was pure ass juice. But i really liked the weapons. The AI is ass juice too tho.
Fallout 4 is my first Bethesda game.
You play Skyrim yet? Or even oblivion fallout 3
New Vegas is cannon but not by Bethesda but one of if not the best fallout game
Who said fallout 4 is not good ?
"Game journalists suck at games" ?
I honestly don't believe that they even play the game judging by their scores.
Take IGN as an example for their year long list of highly rated reviews of trash games.
It's just a shameless cash grab now days.
Fallout didn't deserve the hate. *Starfield* doesn't deserve the hate.
The social media outrage machine has long since realized that anger drives engagement, engagement drives ad revenue, so hating on games like this is effective. But frankly it's frustrating and irritating. None of these games are perfect - no game is - but they rarely if ever deserve the hate they get (and the unbridled hate drown out legitimate criticism which hurts the entire industry)
Its pretty much the same as starfield but with an ignorable story rather than an abysmal story
I played it 24 hours straight the day it came out. The only bad fallout to me is 76.
I play the og Fallouts 1 and 2 and then 3 and new vegas when they came up. The problem with fallout 4 is that you loose the freedom of choice when role playing, you can see on any conversation a good or a bad option compare it to the clasics or new vegas you got a loot of option and consecuence's even depending on your stats you can have more options.
Fallout 4 losse to much giving the Player character lack of options and alzo a innecesary voice that take's away from your role playing experiecie.
it's really not about glitches or bugs, it's that the game story is linear and there's no branching paths. the dialogue system doesn't matter, you can chose any of the 4 options and get the same outcomes. this is why new vegas is considered one of the best in the series, so many dialogue options lead to different outcomes. you can play the game so many different ways too and make specialized characters with certain playstyles because of the perk system. i mean sure you could do a jack of all trades character if jack up your INT but in FO4 they changed the classical S.P.E.C.I.A.L system tremendously to where it felt so dumbed down and very much casualized. These were the 2 big things about FO4 that made the game not liked. The only thing going for the game was the improved engine and combat.
No it didn’t deserve the hate. People expected a Half Life 3 type of experience and those people only have themselves to blame for hyping it up so much. It’s a perfectly commendable entry to the franchise and the gunplay felt awesome for a role playing game. With the kind of culture we have now everything will either be considered mid or flat out amazing and at the bare minimum, trash.
Well for me at least it's kinda bad because fallout as a series is supposed to be an RPG, but all of its elements were seriously toned down with things like voice protagonist, dialogue UI, perks, choices and worst of all the freaking story in FO4 you are not your character, you are Nate/Father or Nora/Mother of Shaun.
While I’ve never played fallout I never understood why 4 was always scrutinized by folks. I mean, I like Skyrim and sure it has some issues but I still quite enjoy it. Nice work on the video! Tis a lovely watch
Starfield wasn't buggy at all, given the size of the game... It has too many boring elements though. There is an excellent 80 hour game hidden within those hundreds of hours of content. Just a shame it takes you the first 20 hours to figure it out before the next 60 hours become excellent fun.
Compared to Starfield... yeah a game that was the only single player in the top most played games of 2023 and in the last month still had 5 million active players. Must suck.. /s Also the mess that was Starfield? It had way less bugs than Fallout. Still had them? Yes, bethesda after all. But you can recognize the good stuff in Fallout but not Sf?
All the people who said they did not like fallout 4, always come out saying " I never actually finished the game. " Bro....
Well if a game doesn't drive you to finish it, it's kindof the problem of the game.
imagine you have to finish something to say you dont like it.
I can relate if they played 5 min...but none shoud finish a game they don't like
@@cerioo yeah its basically as saying you should finish a burned steak cause if you dont you cant say its burned xD
@@jhonayo4887 no
there is a difference between
"i dont like the game and dont want to play it"
and "the game is objectivley bad"
i would never play the old/classic fallout games
because i dont like the iso gameplay
but i can still see why people love them
and never would say they are bad
No, it didn't but the game could have been way better if the dialogues were more complex.
Anyone that plays and completes star field probably needs a mental health evaluation 😂
Put over 250 hrs into it love it. It’s my second favorite Bethesda game. I love how all the complaints about FO4 they fixed in SF and people still crap on it. Like non voiced protagonist, choices and perks and dialogue system. Even this guy had to complain about SF even tho he didn’t even play it long at all by his own admission.
@@Chris-yv2iv 🤡
I actually enjoy Starfield wayy more than Fallout 4..
Starfield is going to age like wine in my opinion. I've enjoyed it since day 1 and I can't wait for future mod support and DLC.
Starfield has 0 replayability. And it sucked so much there were so much different materials but couldn't scrap anything. Weapon and armor upgrades were bad too.
@@TheAdatto I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it. None of that really took away from my enjoyment. Hopefully you can go back to it at some point.👍
@Gablablin don't think so. The hoarding of stuff is so 'Bethesda like' normally. And seeing almost everything dissappear every new game+ is too much for me.
@@TheAdatto idk if you know but you don't have to go into the Unity and start over. You can just keep playing in your universe if you want. I'm sure you know this though.
Sorry, what did I miss? Why is Starfield a dismal mess? It’s objectively a better game than fallout 4 in every way except for traditional exploration.
by far the worst fallout game, I played all of them, this game almost made the franchise die for me, but fallout 76 in 2023 got me back, can say 76 is the best fallout game yet, because its better in everything then the other fallout just lacking a bit on the story but rest is so much better then the other games.
This game sucked then, and it sucks now. It's not an rpg. It is an action adventure game with weak shooting mechanics and a lot of boredom mechanics.
One of the worst RPG:s i've ever played. I don't care if it is a ''good game'' or not. I'm looking for a good RPG. No matter the downsides all the previous games had, they were solid RPG-games, especially New Vegas.
Unpopular opinion: Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game up to this day.
far from it, but I do love it.
76 is better
Unpopular for a reason
Careful brother. The new vegas meatriders will come for you.
Personally, 76 is my favorite, FO4 is a close second.
It’s my favorite too. I personally really enjoyed all the new mechanics built in like relatively deep gear customization and settlements. The Boston environment was really fun and colorful too. Not to mention the modding community really ran with it
The start is extremely boring
This game is terrible. I almost hate everything about it.
Came to the video to say that Fallout 4 is one of the best game of all time. That’s it…
The fallout purists are annoying fallout 4 is a good game
Good action adventure. Not a good fallout. This may as well be an amusement park ride compared to the originals or what FNV tried to replicate.
Fallout 4 is an okay, cheesy, poorly written action shooter with rpg elements.
But imagine releasing that POS game even after Fallout 3, let alone New Vegas. Eh, no need to imagine.
Fallout 4 is a good game, I think it’s the best introduction to the series for newcomers. The problem with the game is that it had very high expectations and it released in an awful buggy state, plus it wasn’t that genre defining entree that people were hoping for. It’s still a stellar game nonetheless. To me this seems like the most trashed on 8/10 game I’ve ever seen. It’s on par with at least Fallout 3 but people say “it’ll never be great.” If FO4 isn’t great then I don’t rly think you can say the FO3 is great either. Both are very similar in quality with each having their own charm
Yes
The only people who like and defend fo4 is the ones who say "it was my very first fallout game ever and i have very fond memories... yada yada yada" affective memory aside, you should look at it with logic, its a bad rpg, a good looter-shooter, and an ok builder 6/10