You seem to be very hard on the springs, bending a spring from both ends causes the knives to lose their snap. Rule of thumb to keep them crisp snappers is to not open both sides part way at the same time. That's why you seem to have trouble opening them when the opposite side is also bending the spring.
The extra layer is only about 2mm so it's hardly a difference. Weirdly on Amazon UK the Pioneer costs more than the Farmer. Just 2 pence more but still, why would I buy a pioneer when I'm getting that saw for free?
Nessmuk said it right when he said "the pocket knife should have two blades one large utility blade and one blade for carving spoons etc". The Small tinkers weight to utility is still the best and has been for decades.....
The Pioneer is 93 mm long (you said 91) and has 2 layers (you said 3). But I guess you know that :) If you want to show the tools without breaking your nails: open the bottle opener first to the half stop, then the back spring is not under tension and you can easily open the can opener. If you half open the can opener, the cap lifter is very stiff to get out. I like all of these, but I choose Alox over Cellidor almost every single day. Right now I have a Pioneer X in my pocket: a Pioneer + scissors. That's a great option as well.
Hold on...the Pioneer has 2 layers doesn't it? The knife blade and reamer are opposite ends of the first layer, and the second layer has bottle opener & can opener at opposing ends. The Farmer is 3 layer as it adds the saw although it's a very slim layer, and since you posted they have released a Pioneer X 3 layer knife (Pioneer plus scissors) and a 4 layer alox, the Farmer X (Farmer plus scissors).
@@7784000 Get a nice alox one. The one u like the most. (Don't mind the sisors). And then put a classic sd on your keychain. Et voilà ! Perfect combo. You have sisors, twizers, and tooth pick every single day with you, and a nice alox in your pocket!
If you like alox and like to have scissors, try the "Farmer X". I own tons of Victorinox knives of all sizes. My EDC-knife now is the Huntsman. If you grind the small flat screwdriver of the can-opener just a little bit smaller from the outside (~45°), it can drive Philips screws too. Upgrade it with a ferro-rod (Fire-fly, fitting in the tooth-pick compartment) and fire-starter (Helix, fitting in the corkscrew) from Tortoise Gear and you're close to a complete survival-kit. If you don't mind the extra bulk and weight, have a look at the Outrider!
i have compact and farmer, love both of them. When camping i bring up farmer, when work or daily use i keep in touch with compact. pretty awesome looking video dude.
@@Nikioko The Armeemesser 08 ist also used by the german Army and i think with blacked tools in the US army. The Armeemesser 08 is not allowed to carry zivil in Germany because it have a Onehand opening Blade. The Trailmaster have a version with a twohand Blade, this is ok in germany.
I use that big flathead as a pry tool all the time. I have used the knife and wire stripper at my old job a lot when I would set up new speakers and I use the scissors on my Pioneer X for cutting off strings on my clothes, opening Barbies for my daughter (because they have those stupid straps) and they’re such useful multitools.
Really like your choices. My go-to knives are the Pioneer X Alox, which adds scissors (scissors are essential for me to consider any SAK), or the Fieldmaster, especially if working, hiking, camping, and often for EDC. The most complete and useful set of tools.
The "best" Swiss Army Knife? Is the one that has the tool you need. Normally a Climber will do when indoors. Otherwise, I like the Farmer, Huntsman or any 111mm model for the outdoors. One can't go wrong with a Victorinox knife.
Nice video. The Fieldmaster is my go to knife for climbing, hiking, camping, and EDC in the city. Such a useful set of tools. I also have the Outrider, which is essentially a Fieldmaster plus the corkscrew of the Huntsman, but with a locking main blade.
There could be worse problems to have. Enjoy your knives. Not rubbing it in or anything but I’ve got a older Smith and Wesson K frame on my belt and a big OTF in my pocket today. Just enjoying the weather hanging around in the yard for now. Hello from Carthage NC ,USA.Enjoy the video. Take care.
Lovely video ..or bad since it has stimulated the itch to add farmer to my collection I have three of them the tourist , Alox (limited edition) and the tiny one with a pair of scissors.. non of these have a saw!
I have the little SD Classic and the Huntsman, but fancied the Handyman for the extra tools, so have ordered that as well. I do Camping and general DIY, so excellent
Imo a main edc SAK must have scissors. I carry a huntsman+ and as backup a tourist, wich is the 84mm version of the spartan. But i also like the super tinker, climber, pioneerX, signature, manager and many more.
I think I have the same problem as you? 😁 I have nearly 30 of these now. The “Hiker” if my favourite. I have four. One original the other three have been modified with scale changes, added lanyards, magnets etc.
My Swiss Champ has been in my pocket nearly every day for 34 years. If it wasn't in my pocket, it was in my luggage in the hold on a flight to Aberdeen or back to the US.
Finally, someone who prefers being ready for a lot more unexpected issues to solve, and not caring about weight or size. :) I'm the same way. As long as it's functional and useful, I am not complaining about size or weight. I am likely getting a SwissChamp in a month or two. For now, a RangerGrip 79 is on its way and should be here within the next week. I'm going to EDC both (on top of other items), no problem. :)
Cap lifter / flat head screwdriver/ wire stripper, the mini screwdriver is so useful for eyeglasses. Thank you for your review . I like how you changed the scales . Cheers
Interesting video, but one thing to point out is there’s no real similarity between the Spartan and the Pioneer. The Spartan is the baseline model on which other greater layer plastic-scaled SAKs expand from. The Alox knives; Pioneer, Farmer etc; are different in that they only have tools on one side plus the likes of the main blade is from thicker stock. Keep up the good work tho’. 👍
Happy Saturday Markoni in the forlorn UK ( I am an ex-patriate Englishman from S. London) Sorry to correct you but the Field Master is Not a Climber with another layer it is in fact the poorer cousin of the top of the line Huntsman, the major difference being the Field Master has a Philips screwdriver as a back layer tool ( totally the wrong place for one making its usefulness limited ) instead of the Corkscrew which has the advantage of being useful as an extra tool holder by adding a tinder spiral & a mini-screwdriver to it. I found your video today Saturday 14th August 2021 so you line up of the top 5 of 2019 is rather dated with the introduction of both the Pioneer X with a scissors & the top of the range of the Pioneer series - the Farmer X with wood saw & scissors & the introduction of the Firefly & Fire Ant ferro rods for SAK's & tinder spirals. I am a lifelong SAK's user, I don't have an absolute favourite but have a variety of them in my EDC rotation according to what I feel I will need on any particular day, the exception being my fixed key ring SAK the 58mm Midnite Manager with its mini-tools , LED & pen. The 2nd SAK will either be a Gentleman's knife such as the 111mm Garant ( not UK legal ), a 93mm Pioneer or Pioneer X, a 84mm Cadet , an 84mm Sportsman & a 84mm Tourist ( both modified with Ferro rods in place of the toothpick & a tinder spiral & mini-screwdriver on the corkscrew making them crossovers between a Gentleman's knife & a mini-tool kit knife ) . My 93mm Farmer X is likewise a crossover tool fulfilling both roles and my dedicated multi-tool SAK's are the 91mm Huntsman ( I have 7 all fitted with Ferro rods in place of the toothpick & a tinder spiral & mini-screwdriver on the corkscrew & I have different coloured Plus scales on 5 of them which are also fitted with the SwissQlip for convenient pocket carry ) or the smaller equivalent the Victorinox Delmont range 85mm EvoGrip S17 ( with a lock blade & not UK legal ) or if I don't feel I need a wood saw then I carry a 91mm Climber ( I have 5 all fitted like my Huntsman with Ferro rods, tinder & mini-screwdrivers & 3 of them have Plus scales & SwissQlips ) . The only SAKs that I have with a back layer Philips screwdriver are the 91mm Deluxe Tinker which is a Home tool kit SAK & the 85mm EvoGrip S18 which is smaller version of the Field Master with a back layer Philips but rarely carry it. I do have 2 other SAK's with the more useful In-Line Phillips - the Spartan Lite ( also a Home tool kit SAK ) & the 111mm Outrider ( not UK legal as it has Slide Lock ) which is basically a larger Huntsman with the addition of the in-line Philips. I don't carry the Spartan but have several decorative scaled ones in my collection. I rotate my SAK's, I like them all & cant say that I have an absolute favourite .
Great video! I love SAK's, so fun and useful. For me I always need a toothpick, and tweezers are always useful so any scales that don't accomodate those are just a waste. Anyway, that's the great thing about SAK's, there's something for everyone. As for the hook, that's useful for literally anything you need to pull / grab. I read somewhere it's rated to 200 pounds.
the tweezers are flimsy and nearly useless, I wouldn't miss them - but I love the plastic scales too - you can put a ferro-rod in the toothpick-compartment and two firestarters in the corksrew, to make it a survival-kit (Fire-fly and Helix from Tortoise Gear) !
Nice choices. I actually do like the wider ones too. I’ve been carrying the CyberTool L a lot lately and I like it because it is so wide that it lays comfortably in the pocket lol well at least it does for me. As for a medium size one I would go with an alox pioneer x or a tinker deluxe 👌
My SAK collection consists of ~60 knives, varying from Cellidor to Alox in all sizes, but my all-time favourite is the Compact. I put Climbers in all my vehicles but EDC the Compact. I always find other people's preferred SAK interesting, and why they prefer one model over another. Thank you for making a great video comparison of different models. 👍🏼
Nice video! I subscribed. I have a video on finding a pocket knife for life and only included two, single blade, Victorinox knives in it. I might have to rethink my carry options, lol!
Marks topics love your videos and love Swiss army knives just lost my Swiss champ to days ago so so sad 😢over it miss it so much had it 16years never been with out it and to days ago I lost it 😭 miss it so much great pockit knives the feldmasdr looks like a great tool thanks again for doing this video thanks again 👍
wicked yellow sak..... my favorite is by far the pioneer x. for 3 layer... if for some reason i had to go plastic, it would be between the climber and the supertinker... not sure if i would go for corkscrew with mini screwdriver, or the phillips as the can opener is a phillips. i think the fieldmaster is a great knife, possibly the best set of tools out there, but i wont go to 4 layer ....just too much for me ..i like my knife with me every single day and im a city boy...next thing i would be roaming the city of london with 2 greyhounds , a ferret, a pair of wellies and my 10 layer sak.... nothing wrong with that, but just not me. favorite 2 layer has to be a tossup between the tinker and the pioneer. i do also have a climber, and my first sak which ws a spartan. i use the climeber a lot to be honest though, i miss the short blade when i carry the pioneer x...i used it for everything and the large blade for food... now i use the large blade for everything including cutting fruit and stuff. good video mate...your camera and colours look great...like a bloody shop.
Nice collection (y) I've got a camper for maybe 15 years and It's still in a good shape. However If I lost it I would get a tourist, a sportsman or a spartan (that one would be tough since Sparta is a football rival club in my city :) ). I just almost never use a saw. I don't want to fall into collecting though, I like having one SAK which is associated with memories :)
Aah well I disagree totally of course lol but that's no bad thing, I do like your choice actually and my top 5 (of the ones I own) is not too dissimilar to yours. They are in no particular order. Climber Moneyclip Farmer Farmer X Swisschamp As you can see I like scissors and saws but only 2 of those have both. It may look weird having Farmer and Farmer X together in my Top 5 but I do carry both. Like today the Farmer combined with Nextool Mini which has scissors. Another day I may carry it with the Moneyclip, and Knipex Cobra XS pliers. Or I may carry the Moneyclip together with my Spyderco Urban, and Knipex Cobra XS If I carry the Swisschamp together with the Knipex and Spyderco, I am equipped for anything and believe it or not it isn't too bulky or heavy, it all fits snugly in the right pocket & 5th pocket of my jeans. Farmer X and Knipex together is pretty tough and capable too.
Thanks for the comment. Since I've made the video my top 5 has almost totally changed. I don't get around to making videos much anymore but I now have the super tinker, farmer x, alox cadet, ranger, swiss champ and compact. The one I use the most though not in that list is the rambler as its on my keys and has a great tool set. The compact is great but lacks a Phillips so the super tinker is a compromise, although everytime I use it I think I should just stick with the fieldmaster
@@markoni5616 I already thought about the Ranger to go with Knipex to give you the full multitool toolset. If they released a Farmer X with a file added, basically an alox Ranger, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, even if it did cost £80 or something.
There is alox version with scissors instead of saw, if thats your fancy. Its what I've with me as well. I've about dozen others, so that's that, the one I used longest (7 years and since it was first) and still carry it in back pack is Huntsman. Usually what travels in my jeans pocket is Tinker and on Key chain leatherman Squirt. If I wasn't afraid of my Alox scaled version getting stolen while me being drunk somewhere I would carry that instead of Tinker.lmao
On the Victorinox Classic SD can you speak to their “torque” strength in the newer models? I had one as a kid for a long time that my grandpa had bought me. One day I was using it to cut through something and got stuck so I wiggled and pulled.. whole thing fell apart. So since then I’ve avoided them and carry a folder and leatherman. My question I suppose is: are they tougher now? I keep seeing them on EDC and some of you have very professional setups and seem to trust them so I’m wondering if it’s worthwhile to try another one? Which would you suggest for an everyday carry that’s low profile and could go into front pocket?
I carry a alox sd on my keys as they are stronger than the standard sd. For small glasses, replacing batteries etc it should be fine but nothing more. The one I carry everyday on my person as a pocket knife is the Alox pioneer X. Its the pioneer with scissors. I did by a ranger in yellow (basically a huntsman /fieldmaster) with extra file, but the thickness is a bit too much. If your looking for a great keychain friendly SAK, then I would recommend the signature lite. It's a SD, plus it has a small pen and small light. It gets rid of the need to carry a pen or torch separately. I will probably do a new video showing all the new ones I have
#1: The reamer has no hole for sewing etc., other versions do, and in other versions the sharp edge is angled to bore holes. #2: The additional small screwdriver is perfect for tightening the hinges of (sun)glasses etc. #3: The saw in former versions had a nice tip to e.g. clean your nails, or pry. The new shape works for widening a hole made by the awl, reamer, or what you name it. #5: "On the back, you got a reamer" is not true, you show a corkscrew, and I coud not see a reamer. AFAIK, the small screwdriver is optinonal with all types, but I guess, many vendors add one as a goodie. I got one for free, when asking for it. What I want to add: In newer models, there is a small needle in the scale behind the corkscrew. The back of the saw is very sharp and can be used perfectly as a striker for firesteel. There also is a firesteel available on the market ("firefly"), which can replace the toothpick, and surprisingly works well. I think, not from Victorinox, but other vendors. The bottle opener features a small dent - the cable stripper, meant to dismantle isolated wires. I have used this very often, but with the larger Victorinox knives it is replaced by a sharp string cutter. If you don't bother about perhaps losing your warranty, you can modify this dent with a file to such a cutter. And if you don't want to break your nails opening the tools, use the pliers, clean the knife, and apply Ballistol as a lubricant, which I have found to be compliant with the steel.
Some many victorinox knives but I can't find one that suits . Looks like I am going to have to score the various features and then possibly customise .
I've very recently got a couple of SAK's after using a lot of "high end" single blade folders. Mainly because of our stupid laws on knife carry,,, I must say I'm extremely disappointed with the quality of the steel, of the main blade.!! I cut up a couple of cardboard boxes yesterday, and the blade went from shaving sharp, to blunt, in a few minutes, !!
I’m sorry your government restricts what you can buy and carry. I think I’ll people should have a right to buy any item that they wish if they can afford it within reason. Owning a pocket knife because it is cool is no different than buying a polished hammer because it looks better than the cheap one.
I don't think you mentioned the one I have. I don't know the name but It has: A Cork screw Abig blade A can opener Abottle opener with flat screwdriver A small blade A pen A toothpick Tweazers A saw And a sowing needle/blade Please tell me the name of mine because I don't know
All good knives. The pioneer is not Free layer Fick.....it Three layer Thick. Elecution lessons required or you won't get a job wif de BBC. Ha Ha. Fumbs up from me.
03 Aug 2019 - (1) You should have had all the blades and tools already out instead of fussing to get them open. (2) You should have written out each knife description instead of pausing to look at features and then guess. (3) Why didn't you consider reviewing what you recorded so that you could hear your hesitations and lack of clarity. I can't believe the number of TH-cam presenters who just don't properly prepare, evaluate, review, and then video a cleaned up version. I gave your review a thumbs down because of what I mentioned.
Fair enough. I don't get alot of time to make videos with a young family and work etc so I just jump in and do it. I only do it to maybe be a little informative to someone who's maybe looking to get one, not be professional or have a highly edited video
Thanks for the reviews. The first Alox was the issued 'Soldier.' On the civilian market this was sold as the 'Pioneer. ' There were some superficial differences between these two knives, but the main one was that the Pioneer had the key-ring and the issued Soldier did not. The Farmer is the Pioneer with the addition of an excellent wood saw. However, the Farmer also carries with it the curse of the Pioneer, namely, the keyring. The reason that I write 'curse' is that it forms a particular 'hot spot' on the handle which digs into the palm. You do not find this irritating keyring on the Alox Solo or the Alox Army 2. Why on earth would somebody but the Farmer on their keyring. What were they thinking at Victorinox?? What I would recommend you look at is the Alox Army 7. This is the Farmer plus a hawksbill (or pruning) blade. The very blade that you find on the Harvester and the Alox Army 2. The Alox Army 7 (like the Alox Army 2) does not have the keyring. For me the ideal EDC (urban) is the Pioneer and the ideal EDC (rural) is the Farmer. It is easy to solve the Farmer 'problem.' All you need is a small hacksaw and a dremel. The 'operation' takes but five minutes and you will never know that the keyring was there at all.
On here looking for a model 508 I believe it is. Nail clippers, scissors are serrated on one side. Maybe both.?.Now I’m trying to climb my way out of the rabbit hole. Have a good day.
I've used my parcel hook for lifting pots off fires, pulling out tent stakes and making knots taught.
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You seem to be very hard on the springs, bending a spring from both ends causes the knives to lose their snap. Rule of thumb to keep them crisp snappers is to not open both sides part way at the same time. That's why you seem to have trouble opening them when the opposite side is also bending the spring.
The saw in the "Farmer" model is awesome!! For many years I used the Pioneer, but today I use the Farmer due to the saw.
The Farmer is my favorite Victorinox knife.The saw is great.
Same. Farmer is the only actual EDC I carry every single day. It is the perfect SAK for me.
New to Real Victorinox: #10 SAK Will be getting Farmer X...
The extra layer is only about 2mm so it's hardly a difference. Weirdly on Amazon UK the Pioneer costs more than the Farmer. Just 2 pence more but still, why would I buy a pioneer when I'm getting that saw for free?
Nessmuk said it right when he said "the pocket knife should have two blades one large utility blade and one blade for carving spoons etc". The Small tinkers weight to utility is still the best and has been for decades.....
The Pioneer is 93 mm long (you said 91) and has 2 layers (you said 3). But I guess you know that :)
If you want to show the tools without breaking your nails: open the bottle opener first to the half stop, then the back spring is not under tension and you can easily open the can opener. If you half open the can opener, the cap lifter is very stiff to get out.
I like all of these, but I choose Alox over Cellidor almost every single day. Right now I have a Pioneer X in my pocket: a Pioneer + scissors. That's a great option as well.
Hold on...the Pioneer has 2 layers doesn't it? The knife blade and reamer are opposite ends of the first layer, and the second layer has bottle opener & can opener at opposing ends. The Farmer is 3 layer as it adds the saw although it's a very slim layer, and since you posted they have released a Pioneer X 3 layer knife (Pioneer plus scissors) and a 4 layer alox, the Farmer X (Farmer plus scissors).
@@simonh6371 Exactly :)
I would really like the alox version but i woulfn't miss the tweezers and toothpick.
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Get a nice alox one. The one u like the most. (Don't mind the sisors).
And then put a classic sd on your keychain. Et voilà ! Perfect combo. You have sisors, twizers, and tooth pick every single day with you, and a nice alox in your pocket!
I have a climber for daily use and a swiss champ for hiking and outdoors activities. Great bag knife
I have the farmer, climber, classic SD, and I love them all. Great review mate.
I prefer the huntsman. Added a small screw driver to the corkscrew. Use it a lot. From the 5 I would also choose fieldmaster, closest to huntsman.
Only difference between the "Huntsman" and "Fieldmaster" is the tool on the back. The Fieldmaster has a Phillips.
Just ordered the farmer AND the FIELD MASTER thanks to this video, 👍👍👍👍
If you like alox and like to have scissors, try the "Farmer X".
I own tons of Victorinox knives of all sizes. My EDC-knife now is the Huntsman.
If you grind the small flat screwdriver of the can-opener just a little bit smaller from the outside (~45°), it can drive Philips screws too.
Upgrade it with a ferro-rod (Fire-fly, fitting in the tooth-pick compartment) and fire-starter (Helix, fitting in the corkscrew) from Tortoise Gear and you're close to a complete survival-kit.
If you don't mind the extra bulk and weight, have a look at the Outrider!
i have compact and farmer, love both of them. When camping i bring up farmer, when work or daily use i keep in touch with compact. pretty awesome looking video dude.
I love the tinker!
I have the climber, explorer , cybertool lite and a sentinel.
Great collection. Have the itch to buy another one now.
I have about 40 SAK'S only 2 in alox I prefer the celoid. My top 5 climber,camper , spartan ,tinker, Explorer.
nice video.
You're so lucky to have that yellow victorinox knife. 😍
Perfect SAK has to have tweezers, since I get thorns and splinters near every week.
The first one is the "real" army knife.
It's the one I was given in my service in 1979, they have an other one today.
@@partlycloudy2526 is he not allowed to use the internet?
@@partlycloudy2526 shut the fuck up bro. he fought for his country, show him some damn respect prick.
And today you have the Armeemesser 08 which is the military version of the Trailmaster.
@@JoseMartinez-gk2ke I didn’t fight, only served, luckily Switzerland has not been at war for a very long time.
@@Nikioko The Armeemesser 08 ist also used by the german Army and i think with blacked tools in the US army. The Armeemesser 08 is not allowed to carry zivil in Germany because it have a Onehand opening Blade. The Trailmaster have a version with a twohand Blade, this is ok in germany.
am missing the yellow one!!!
maybe that is why it looks so beautiful from here!! 😍😍😍
I have a Handyman for over 25 years now and it never let me down. I just had to replace broken springs of scissors and pliers so far.
I use that big flathead as a pry tool all the time. I have used the knife and wire stripper at my old job a lot when I would set up new speakers and I use the scissors on my Pioneer X for cutting off strings on my clothes, opening Barbies for my daughter (because they have those stupid straps) and they’re such useful multitools.
Really like your choices. My go-to knives are the Pioneer X Alox, which adds scissors (scissors are essential for me to consider any SAK), or the Fieldmaster, especially if working, hiking, camping, and often for EDC. The most complete and useful set of tools.
The "best" Swiss Army Knife? Is the one that has the tool you need. Normally a Climber will do when indoors. Otherwise, I like the Farmer, Huntsman or any 111mm model for the outdoors. One can't go wrong with a Victorinox knife.
I’d go for a fieldmaster or climber. My personal preference. Already got two climbers.
Nice video. The Fieldmaster is my go to knife for climbing, hiking, camping, and EDC in the city. Such a useful set of tools. I also have the Outrider, which is essentially a Fieldmaster plus the corkscrew of the Huntsman, but with a locking main blade.
I love the alox scales but you are limited on tools with them. An alox swisschamp would be the ultimate multi tool.
There could be worse problems to have. Enjoy your knives. Not rubbing it in or anything but I’ve got a older Smith and Wesson K frame on my belt and a big OTF in my pocket today. Just enjoying the weather hanging around in the yard for now. Hello from Carthage NC ,USA.Enjoy the video. Take care.
Delux Tinker is the best Swiss Army Knife for me. Does it all
Lovely video ..or bad since it has stimulated the itch to add farmer to my collection I have three of them the tourist , Alox (limited edition) and the tiny one with a pair of scissors.. non of these have a saw!
I have the little SD Classic and the Huntsman, but fancied the Handyman for the extra tools, so have ordered that as well.
I do Camping and general DIY, so excellent
Swiss army rule of thumb
If you can’t open something on a Swiss Army knife without breaking you nail then you haven’t been taking care of your knife
Imo a main edc SAK must have scissors. I carry a huntsman+ and as backup a tourist, wich is the 84mm version of the spartan. But i also like the super tinker, climber, pioneerX, signature, manager and many more.
I think I have the same problem as you? 😁 I have nearly 30 of these now. The “Hiker” if my favourite. I have four. One original the other three have been modified with scale changes, added lanyards, magnets etc.
My Swiss Champ has been in my pocket nearly every day for 34 years. If it wasn't in my pocket, it was in my luggage in the hold on a flight to Aberdeen or back to the US.
Finally, someone who prefers being ready for a lot more unexpected issues to solve, and not caring about weight or size. :) I'm the same way. As long as it's functional and useful, I am not complaining about size or weight. I am likely getting a SwissChamp in a month or two. For now, a RangerGrip 79 is on its way and should be here within the next week. I'm going to EDC both (on top of other items), no problem. :)
Don't worry you don't have a box of problems, you have a whole load of solutions.
Cap lifter / flat head screwdriver/ wire stripper, the mini screwdriver is so useful for eyeglasses. Thank you for your review . I like how you changed the scales . Cheers
the Compact is the most efficient SAK made and surprised to not see it in this top 5
Interesting video, but one thing to point out is there’s no real similarity between the Spartan and the Pioneer. The Spartan is the baseline model on which other greater layer plastic-scaled SAKs expand from. The Alox knives; Pioneer, Farmer etc; are different in that they only have tools on one side plus the likes of the main blade is from thicker stock. Keep up the good work tho’. 👍
if you have a swiss army knife with a corkscrew you need to get fire ant fire steal and fire fly fire steal
The three layers Camper is my favorite and i use it everyday 🇸🇪❤️🇨🇭
Mine is the Tinker
So sad about the restrictions in the UK. 😢
Can still carry as long as 3 inches or less an not locking 👌🏻 bit pissy I know lol
Happy Saturday Markoni in the forlorn UK ( I am an ex-patriate Englishman from S. London)
Sorry to correct you but the Field Master is Not a Climber with another layer it is in fact the poorer cousin of the top of the line Huntsman, the major difference being the Field Master has a Philips screwdriver as a back layer tool ( totally the wrong place for one making its usefulness limited ) instead of the Corkscrew which has the advantage of being useful as an extra tool holder by adding a tinder spiral & a mini-screwdriver to it.
I found your video today Saturday 14th August 2021 so you line up of the top 5 of 2019 is rather dated with the introduction of both the Pioneer X with a scissors & the top of the range of the Pioneer series - the Farmer X with wood saw & scissors & the introduction of the Firefly & Fire Ant ferro rods for SAK's & tinder spirals. I am a lifelong SAK's user, I don't have an absolute favourite but have a variety of them in my EDC rotation according to what I feel I will need on any particular day, the exception being my fixed key ring SAK the 58mm Midnite Manager with its mini-tools , LED & pen. The 2nd SAK will either be a Gentleman's knife such as the 111mm Garant ( not UK legal ), a 93mm Pioneer or Pioneer X, a 84mm Cadet , an 84mm Sportsman & a 84mm Tourist ( both modified with Ferro rods in place of the toothpick & a tinder spiral & mini-screwdriver on the corkscrew making them crossovers between a Gentleman's knife & a mini-tool kit knife ) . My 93mm Farmer X is likewise a crossover tool fulfilling both roles and my dedicated multi-tool SAK's are the 91mm Huntsman ( I have 7 all fitted with Ferro rods in place of the toothpick & a tinder spiral & mini-screwdriver on the corkscrew & I have different coloured Plus scales on 5 of them which are also fitted with the SwissQlip for convenient pocket carry ) or the smaller equivalent the Victorinox Delmont range 85mm EvoGrip S17 ( with a lock blade & not UK legal ) or if I don't feel I need a wood saw then I carry a 91mm Climber ( I have 5 all fitted like my Huntsman with Ferro rods, tinder & mini-screwdrivers & 3 of them have Plus scales & SwissQlips ) . The only SAKs that I have with a back layer Philips screwdriver are the 91mm Deluxe Tinker which is a Home tool kit SAK & the 85mm EvoGrip S18 which is smaller version of the Field Master with a back layer Philips but rarely carry it. I do have 2 other SAK's with the more useful In-Line Phillips - the Spartan Lite ( also a Home tool kit SAK ) & the 111mm Outrider ( not UK legal as it has Slide Lock ) which is basically a larger Huntsman with the addition of the in-line Philips. I don't carry the Spartan but have several decorative scaled ones in my collection. I rotate my SAK's, I like them all & cant say that I have an absolute favourite .
Great overview of the best ones to carry that are easily available.
I would suggest you upgrade to the *Alox Farmer X* as it includes scissors!
Great video! I love SAK's, so fun and useful. For me I always need a toothpick, and tweezers are always useful so any scales that don't accomodate those are just a waste. Anyway, that's the great thing about SAK's, there's something for everyone. As for the hook, that's useful for literally anything you need to pull / grab. I read somewhere it's rated to 200 pounds.
the tweezers are flimsy and nearly useless, I wouldn't miss them - but I love the plastic scales too - you can put a ferro-rod in the toothpick-compartment and two firestarters in the corksrew, to make it a survival-kit (Fire-fly and Helix from Tortoise Gear) !
Ranger of course!
Nice choices. I actually do like the wider ones too. I’ve been carrying the CyberTool L a lot lately and I like it because it is so wide that it lays comfortably in the pocket lol well at least it does for me. As for a medium size one I would go with an alox pioneer x or a tinker deluxe 👌
I prefer the Tinker
My SAK collection consists of ~60 knives, varying from Cellidor to Alox in all sizes, but my all-time favourite is the Compact. I put Climbers in all my vehicles but EDC the Compact. I always find other people's preferred SAK interesting, and why they prefer one model over another. Thank you for making a great video comparison of different models. 👍🏼
Nice video! I subscribed. I have a video on finding a pocket knife for life and only included two, single blade, Victorinox knives in it. I might have to rethink my carry options, lol!
Marks topics love your videos and love Swiss army knives just lost my Swiss champ to days ago so so sad 😢over it miss it so much had it 16years never been with out it and to days ago I lost it 😭 miss it so much great pockit knives the feldmasdr looks like a great tool thanks again for doing this video thanks again 👍
I've had my champ for 33 years now.
The pioneer is 2 layers and the pioneer and farmer are 93mm long.
wicked yellow sak.....
my favorite is by far the pioneer x. for 3 layer... if for some reason i had to go plastic, it would be between the climber and the supertinker...
not sure if i would go for corkscrew with mini screwdriver, or the phillips as the can opener is a phillips.
i think the fieldmaster is a great knife, possibly the best set of tools out there, but i wont go to 4 layer ....just too much for me ..i like my knife with me every single day and im a city boy...next thing i would be roaming the city of london with 2 greyhounds , a ferret, a pair of wellies and my 10 layer sak.... nothing wrong with that, but just not me.
favorite 2 layer has to be a tossup between the tinker and the pioneer.
i do also have a climber, and my first sak which ws a spartan.
i use the climeber a lot to be honest though, i miss the short blade when i carry the pioneer x...i used it for everything and the large blade for food...
now i use the large blade for everything including cutting fruit and stuff.
good video mate...your camera and colours look great...like a bloody shop.
My current edc knives are a Pioneer X or a Compact …
Plus a Signature Lite.
Good video and I agree with all your choices 😎👍
Nice collection (y) I've got a camper for maybe 15 years and It's still in a good shape. However If I lost it I would get a tourist, a sportsman or a spartan (that one would be tough since Sparta is a football rival club in my city :) ). I just almost never use a saw. I don't want to fall into collecting though, I like having one SAK which is associated with memories :)
Aah well I disagree totally of course lol but that's no bad thing, I do like your choice actually and my top 5 (of the ones I own) is not too dissimilar to yours. They are in no particular order.
Climber
Moneyclip
Farmer
Farmer X
Swisschamp
As you can see I like scissors and saws but only 2 of those have both. It may look weird having Farmer and Farmer X together in my Top 5 but I do carry both. Like today the Farmer combined with Nextool Mini which has scissors. Another day I may carry it with the Moneyclip, and Knipex Cobra XS pliers. Or I may carry the Moneyclip together with my Spyderco Urban, and Knipex Cobra XS If I carry the Swisschamp together with the Knipex and Spyderco, I am equipped for anything and believe it or not it isn't too bulky or heavy, it all fits snugly in the right pocket & 5th pocket of my jeans. Farmer X and Knipex together is pretty tough and capable too.
Thanks for the comment. Since I've made the video my top 5 has almost totally changed. I don't get around to making videos much anymore but I now have the super tinker, farmer x, alox cadet, ranger, swiss champ and compact. The one I use the most though not in that list is the rambler as its on my keys and has a great tool set. The compact is great but lacks a Phillips so the super tinker is a compromise, although everytime I use it I think I should just stick with the fieldmaster
With regards to the knipex, I too have been using a xs pair with the ranger as it pretty much covers all area, minus a phillips
@@markoni5616 I already thought about the Ranger to go with Knipex to give you the full multitool toolset. If they released a Farmer X with a file added, basically an alox Ranger, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, even if it did cost £80 or something.
The hook can pick up hot pots and pans by the handle while camping
If you close or fully open the canopener, you can easily open the screwdriver. :-)
There is alox version with scissors instead of saw, if thats your fancy. Its what I've with me as well.
I've about dozen others, so that's that, the one I used longest (7 years and since it was first) and still carry it in back pack is Huntsman. Usually what travels in my jeans pocket is Tinker and on Key chain leatherman Squirt.
If I wasn't afraid of my Alox scaled version getting stolen while me being drunk somewhere I would carry that instead of Tinker.lmao
drink less - alcohol doesn't solve a single Problem, but gives you at least one more !
Also there's an alox with saw and scissors now - the Farmer X.
Evogrip deserves a spot
On the Victorinox Classic SD can you speak to their “torque” strength in the newer models? I had one as a kid for a long time that my grandpa had bought me. One day I was using it to cut through something and got stuck so I wiggled and pulled.. whole thing fell apart. So since then I’ve avoided them and carry a folder and leatherman.
My question I suppose is: are they tougher now? I keep seeing them on EDC and some of you have very professional setups and seem to trust them so I’m wondering if it’s worthwhile to try another one?
Which would you suggest for an everyday carry that’s low profile and could go into front pocket?
I carry a alox sd on my keys as they are stronger than the standard sd. For small glasses, replacing batteries etc it should be fine but nothing more. The one I carry everyday on my person as a pocket knife is the Alox pioneer X. Its the pioneer with scissors. I did by a ranger in yellow (basically a huntsman /fieldmaster) with extra file, but the thickness is a bit too much. If your looking for a great keychain friendly SAK, then I would recommend the signature lite. It's a SD, plus it has a small pen and small light. It gets rid of the need to carry a pen or torch separately. I will probably do a new video showing all the new ones I have
#1: The reamer has no hole for sewing etc., other versions do, and in other versions the sharp edge is angled to bore holes. #2: The additional small screwdriver is perfect for tightening the hinges of (sun)glasses etc. #3: The saw in former versions had a nice tip to e.g. clean your nails, or pry. The new shape works for widening a hole made by the awl, reamer, or what you name it. #5: "On the back, you got a reamer" is not true, you show a corkscrew, and I coud not see a reamer. AFAIK, the small screwdriver is optinonal with all types, but I guess, many vendors add one as a goodie. I got one for free, when asking for it.
What I want to add: In newer models, there is a small needle in the scale behind the corkscrew. The back of the saw is very sharp and can be used perfectly as a striker for firesteel. There also is a firesteel available on the market ("firefly"), which can replace the toothpick, and surprisingly works well. I think, not from Victorinox, but other vendors. The bottle opener features a small dent - the cable stripper, meant to dismantle isolated wires. I have used this very often, but with the larger Victorinox knives it is replaced by a sharp string cutter. If you don't bother about perhaps losing your warranty, you can modify this dent with a file to such a cutter. And if you don't want to break your nails opening the tools, use the pliers, clean the knife, and apply Ballistol as a lubricant, which I have found to be compliant with the steel.
Some many victorinox knives but I can't find one that suits . Looks like I am going to have to score the various features and then possibly customise .
Alistair Hunter I can recommend you the Victorinox Outrider (bigger than the other ones and it has the saw, scissors, screwdriver etc).
I really love the metal finish. Give a better grip. Where did you get the Swiss key chain fob?
May I ask how much for the red feldmasder thanks again 👍love your videos keep them coming thanks
You can get them on Amazon for £25
i use fieldmaster
I have Rescue Tool Victorinox and I want to sell it for 50 eur anywhere. It was that yellow knife proclaimed the best rescue knife and tool in 2007
By the way subd you just love Swiss army knives good video 👍
Nice video mate
What is the third one ?
Why they are not doing a hoboknife?i whold licke one...
Nice video. BTW The Pioneer is a 93mm 2 layer knife not 91mm and 3 layers ... Like those yellow covers 👍
My bad. Cheers
I don't think their much use for a corkscrew
I've very recently got a couple of SAK's after using a lot of "high end" single blade folders.
Mainly because of our stupid laws on knife carry,,, I must say I'm extremely disappointed with the quality of the steel, of the main blade.!! I cut up a couple of cardboard boxes yesterday, and the blade went from shaving sharp, to blunt, in a few minutes, !!
Nice video 🛸
Nice video indeed.
Where did u get the yellow scales?
I got them from eBay from a swiss seller. Fitted perfectly and easy to put on
Classic sd no question
Cool
I’m sorry your government restricts what you can buy and carry. I think I’ll people should have a right to buy any item that they wish if they can afford it within reason. Owning a pocket knife because it is cool is no different than buying a polished hammer because it looks better than the cheap one.
I don't think you mentioned the one I have. I don't know the name but It has:
A Cork screw
Abig blade
A can opener
Abottle opener with flat screwdriver
A small blade
A pen
A toothpick
Tweazers
A saw
And a sowing needle/blade
Please tell me the name of mine because I don't know
dirtblock 214 that’s the camper
Thanks
Victorinox Forester is the best knife. End of debate.
It’s great for outdoors but I prefer the climber as EDC.
It’s U.K. legal for a start.
gak 108...
There called victorinox
Victorinox are the makers but the range are known as Swiss Army Knives.
Pruner anybody?
All good knives. The pioneer is not Free layer Fick.....it Three layer Thick. Elecution lessons required or you won't get a job wif de BBC. Ha Ha. Fumbs up from me.
Lol bit hard when partially deaf
I'm glad I don't live in the U.K...
03 Aug 2019 - (1) You should have had all the blades and tools already out instead of fussing to get them open. (2) You should have written out each knife description instead of pausing to look at features and then guess. (3) Why didn't you consider reviewing what you recorded so that you could hear your hesitations and lack of clarity. I can't believe the number of TH-cam presenters who just don't properly prepare, evaluate, review, and then video a cleaned up version. I gave your review a thumbs down because of what I mentioned.
Fair enough. I don't get alot of time to make videos with a young family and work etc so I just jump in and do it. I only do it to maybe be a little informative to someone who's maybe looking to get one, not be professional or have a highly edited video
Fuck off.
It's a natural chat format, get over it.
Just checked your channel Craig, I can’t see any video content?
Not really in a position to criticise are we?
Thanks for the reviews. The first Alox was the issued 'Soldier.' On the civilian market this was sold as the 'Pioneer. ' There were some superficial differences between these two knives, but the main one was that the Pioneer had the key-ring and the issued Soldier did not.
The Farmer is the Pioneer with the addition of an excellent wood saw. However, the Farmer also carries with it the curse of the Pioneer, namely, the keyring. The reason that I write 'curse' is that it forms a particular 'hot spot' on the handle which digs into the palm. You do not find this irritating keyring on the Alox Solo or the Alox Army 2. Why on earth would somebody but the Farmer on their keyring. What were they thinking at Victorinox??
What I would recommend you look at is the Alox Army 7. This is the Farmer plus a hawksbill (or pruning) blade. The very blade that you find on the Harvester and the Alox Army 2.
The Alox Army 7 (like the Alox Army 2) does not have the keyring.
For me the ideal EDC (urban) is the Pioneer and the ideal EDC (rural) is the Farmer.
It is easy to solve the Farmer 'problem.' All you need is a small hacksaw and a dremel. The 'operation' takes but five minutes and you will never know that the keyring was there at all.
The best Victorinox knife would be a compact with an extra layer that had saw or file and an awl.
YES! I love the pen and scissor in it but I miss a saw :(
I’d love one with Compact front tools & Tinker back tools. That’d be perfect for me 👍🏾
My EDC SAK is a Spartan which I put plus scales on. Perfect for urban carry.
On here looking for a model 508 I believe it is. Nail clippers, scissors are serrated on one side. Maybe both.?.Now I’m trying to climb my way out of the rabbit hole. Have a good day.
You changed the scales on the yellow one? Where do you get the scales from? Thanks
How do you rate the steel quality
Yep I think here in the USA we might have to start carrying them only down the road some time. The way are laws are going in some states.
why no champ?
Just a bit too thick for my liking. I have nearly brought it about 5 times or so but have stopped myself
Marks Topics thanks for the re
What is the thing you have on the end of it
It's a lanyard, to help you grab it when it's in your pocket