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I think what they need to nail is the vibe, the films suffer from being turned from a really creative series to something that feels like generic middle school fiction chosen one and all. It’s okay for it to be a little silly, it’s okay to use bright colors and honestly doing something a bit Tom Holland Spider-Man like would fit the series really well in my opinion. I can totally picture slow motion battles with sarcastic Percy commentary and punk and pop music during some scenes.
The worst part of this movie as a fan of the books is how it basically just stole the climax of the 4th book, crammed it into this film, and then quickly resolved it. That would be like if Marvel put Thanos in Avengers 2, only gave him 10 minutes tops of screentime, then killed him off forever.
They had simply decided it was going to be the last movie and wrapped it up. The first one wasn't a big enough hit and they didn't believe in the franchise potential. Stuff like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, MCU.... those are all planned long term.
I think you guys are forgetting the worst bit of this. After wrapping up the franchise for some reason they introduce Thalia back?! I feel like I'm remembering wrong but after that terrible ending I was even more confused cause they were trying to set up a sequel or something
The third book, Percy Jackson and The Titans curse is a real step up from both the Sea of Monsters and The Lightening thief. It’s my personal favourite out of the series. Give it a read if you can, it’s so enjoyable
The thing is that the second book isn't as good individually, but Percy Jackson really is a series where the sum of their parts is greater than any individual book. The books are really good, but the first two books really do a great job of building up to the final three (same with the Heroes of Olympus), which I why I would've recommended reading all of them before watching the second one, because it'll leave you wondering where they were trying to go after the second movie. Also books 5, 4, and 3 are probably the best written books of the series (in the order)
Honestly there seems to be no real direction they were trying to take with the sea of monsters. At some points it seemed like they were expecting to get a sequel even though they used crucial plot points from the books that weren’t even close to coming to fruition yet and sometimes it seemed like they knew that the franchise wouldn’t continue by speeding up those plot points to bring the short lived franchise to an end with a neat little bow on top EVEN THOUGH they left it open for continuation. If they actually got the green light for another movie where would they have even taken the source material? They already used up and butchered major plots. The next few movies would basically just be completely different from the source material all together.
I guess in the event that they had decided to continue the franchise (for some reason), they could've revived him again. I'm not sure about this bc I only saw the film when it came out, but didn't they say something like he hadn't completely recovered his power yet?
WARNING: SPOILERS FOR PERCY JACKSON i think that the captain of midnights should have read all the books before making his evaluation. I've read them all, and, well, this movie is terrible on so many levels. Luke not being the one to stop Kronos is just stupid and completely goes against the message, that Luke was the hero in the end. it's just annoying.
@@x0xgregx0x Yes this exactly! The way the characters are all dismissed off the bat by being just "Rick Riordan" characters and how they're far too simple to get wrong even though the movie was doing just that made me a little sad to hear. I absolutely adored these books growing up and recently re-read all of them alongside my sister, who at this point is pursuing grad school. We both thoroughly enjoyed going through the series again and re-experiencing our love for it. They might not be all that complex in the beginning, but captainmidnight even admits that the characters in the movies are wayyy too aged up and the ones in the books are still very, very young teenagers. Take Harry Potter for example here, the protags are young in both book and movie and they make childish descicions because they're, well, children and that's to be expected but they're not blamed for being children or chalked up to being inherently incomplex characters just because they're written like teenagers. And they do become more complex over time as both they and the audience that read/watched them grew up. It just seems unfair that these "Rick Riordan" characters are given such treatement because I remember and love the books so fondly; to hear them dismissed so completely in passing like that... hurts.
I distinctly remember getting the chance to see a preview of this movie from one of my dad's friends when i was like 11. I invited a few friends and watched the movie in a small theatre and when I left I was actually crying from how much they had butchered my favorite series.
I saw a clip from this movie in a university cafeteria once, specifically the scene where Percy demonstrates his exceptional navigational abilities on water for the first time, represented in the film by latitude and longitude lines overlaid on the water, and thought, "Huh, that's a clever way to visually represent for the audience his supernatural ability to know exactly where in the world he is as long as he's on or near the ocean. Good job, movie, you did something well." Then he explained it as something he was literally seeing and completely ruined what little respect I had for the scene.
Kind of goes to show how the filmmakers would've been better off making their *own* story that may have been much more successful and had a lot less backlash rather than trying to cash in on the Percy Jackson name and fans.
Yo ya'll don't have to hope that the Disney+ series will be good. It'll be awesome. Rick and his wife are completely involved into the script writing and casting.
I'm a huge Percy Jackson fan and grew up with the books. Most of my friends have also read the series and the consensus was that Sea of Monsters is the weakest book in the series. The best books in my opinion are 1 and 5.
if you get a chance, i'd keep working with the books, at least until you hit the battle of the labyrinth. I'd say it's easily riordan's strongest novel out of the first 5, with plenty of action scenes and surprisingly good worldbuilding. it's definitely my favorite percy jackson book
you should finish the books, i read them long time ago but books 4 and 5 were incredible, and the following books with the Roman camp were even better.
one of the things that riordan does well is character descriptions. everyone has some idea of how the characters are supposed to look. i think the reason why people were annoyed with daddario's brown hair in the first film was because annabeth's hair is so iconic to her character, because of riordan's skill at establishing that. this movie really doesn't do clarisse well visually, they took a character who was more buff and stocky and made her skinny. it's a small nitpick bit still a big difference in characterization
The thing about that 5 million budget cut is that it was probably cut at the end of production - they saw they had a dud and therefore they didn’t bother finishing all the effects.
U should React to the maze runner series especially scorch trials The first film was amazing and was kind of like the first book Scorch trials was no where near like the book And death cure was ok u can pull some scenes and recognise it from the book but some of it was back to front and some of the important parts of the story was kind of missed
The dumbest thing is that they took the climax of the 4TH BOOK and crammed it into this. Like what??? And I can't believe what they did to Tyson. I agree on sea of monsters tho, it's my least favorite book in the Riordanverse but it's still great. There's so many scenes I think about a lot.
I read all the books and was so excited to see a movie franchise come out... but I think you hit this perfectly. What seemed like an easy thing to transfer to a movie screen just flopped. They didn't try or put much heart into this project. :/ oh well maybe they could try again? (probably not)
Funny how Brandon T Jackson actually being older than the rest might be the most accurate thing that happened since Satyrs are known to age twice faster than humans/demigods.
Thank you sir as always for making content I’m interested in even if I don’t particularly care about the subject. Now I understand how this massive YA property ended up falling apart.
I really think captain midnight should read the third book. It's the *one* book in the series next to the last one that feels _made_ for being a movie, AND introduces one of my most favourite characters, who has excellent character development even for a "kid's series"
I think Sea of Monsters is like Chamber of secrets there’s stuff I like in it and it had an amazing call back later in the future but it’s really really forgettable! I understand what it was going for but besides the bit in the beginning , the boat , a reference in the middle, and the very end nothing .... really happens.
i remember kind of defending movie adaptations of really good novels since you just can't put everything in a movie. but THIS? this movie makes me angry like how percy gets angry whenever he sees ares. like i can go on rambling about every part of the movie but the scene where percy defeated kronos with the cursed blade? NOT EVEN ZEUS DEFEATED KRONOS WITH ALL THE POWER THAT HE HAD AND YET A DEMIGOD DEFEATED KRONOS???? i stopped defending movie adaptations after that.
Ok but here’s the thing. The whole point of the book is that Grover was stuck, of course there isn’t any Grover same in Titans curse where there’s no Annebeth, espicaly in the book there lots of grover
We need a petition to cast Lerman as Poseidon (or maybe some other role) and to find a role for Brandon T Jackson in the new Disney Plus series, bc i like both of them and think they deserve a second chance Also it felt like the best parts of the books get cut out from both movie adaptations
One of the biggest problems with this movie is that it revealed several major plot twists from the book series without bothering to set up at all why they mattered. They came too early to even be considered twists of any kind
Rick is heavily involved in the series so there's no way they're gonna mess up. Unless you want 100% accurate adaptation, which it wont because Rick already said they will add more scenes that werent in the books to give more backstory and lore
Honestly the second book is probably the weakest of anything Riordan has released in this universe, not to say it’s bad, but to say not to be discouraged. Honestly Midnight really should have just trusted the thousands of fans in the last video. Hearing him not even touch on the 2/3 of the movie ripped from other books just makes this a laughingstock of a video to me
As far as the OG saga goes book wise, sea of monsters isn't nearly as captivating as the titans curse, and the labyrinth is chalk full of character development. The last Olympian brings the tense nature of the lighting thief back, but turns it up to 11.
could you look at the good omens tv show it is my favourite adaption from book to tv, they remove so much slack the book didn't need while keeping all the stuff that was great, they got rid of parts that were slightly confusing and shortened parts that were too long in the book, but they keep everything that needs to be in there, some scenes have the dialogue perfectly word to word, not 1 change, everything exact, it is my favourite adaption, it is my favourite books, one of my favourite tv shows, the casting was perfect, David tenant and Michael sheen have so much chemistry, it's great, please read the book, and please watch it if you haven't
One Reason that Clarisse seems like a jerk for no reason in this universe seems to be the fact they left out the whole reason the Ares cabin hates Percy and thats him beating their dad in a fight. So now even if we had got to the fifth book The ares cabin refusing to fight would have been like they just made up all the misdeads that happened to them. These first movies really screwed any possibility of anything good
The best thing about the new casting (besides the actors being the right age) is that Percy DOES NOT have to be white! I'm so happy, especially since his experience is pretty POC coded and you can still have green eyes while being tan.
“Can’t handle the complexity of Rick riordan characters.” He writes better and deeper characters than a majority of authors. Sure they aren’t insanely complex to where you need a phd to understand but they’re complex enough to where if you come back and read the books later in life you’ll realize a lot of things about those characters that you didn’t before simply because you were too young.
While the first movie is kinda fun to joke and roll your eyes at, this movie is just painful. It really thought it was doing something better and completely missed the mark. I remember how disappointed I was at 14 when I saw this in theaters, ruined my childhood before my childhood was even over.
I will say Sea of Monsters was always the shortest and the book I longed for more out of. That being said the books after leave this one in the dust wirh content (even with the odessey/Jason paralels)
Never underestimate Hollywood's ability to write unsatisfying characters and/or re-write good characters into poorly done characters. There are just to many "idea people" in Hollywood who get their ideas from other bad movies with empty characters.
The most atrocious thing that this movie did was have Kronos Luke. That messes up his entire character arc. Luke thinks that the titans will treat him better than the gods do, which is why he spends most of the series trying to free Kronos. If the very first thing that Kronos does when partially freed is to try to Luke, why would Luke keep trying to free him? The second worst thing that the movie did was make Clarisse hot. It took someone who was supposed to be an ugly jerk and turned her into a thirst trap 😅
Sadly yes this movie,while it had very few ups especially with the effects, was the final nail in the coffin. I wish they just stuck with the books,maybe Percy could have been almost as big as Harry Potter especially with the sequel series Heroes Of Olympus having such Awesome new characters,villains,and story that definitely wasn't what I expected 🤧❤
I think the books could have been closer to the avengers, if they are able to get Cater, Sadie, Magnus and Jason and the Romans to the screen as well as Percy. I would have loved to see an awesome team up like that!
the talk about luke not having any depth can be extended to kronos. A highly intelligent all powerful being pulling strings behind the scenes not all to dissimilar to mcu thanos turned into a big dumb horny fire devil - I mean he is the titan of agriculture and time ffs (not withstanding the movie crammed in 3 books into 10minutes)
I hope you finish the book series on your own, it's definitely worth it! In my opinion The Sea of Monsters is the weaker book of the five and the series just continued to get better from there, at least for me. This movie doesn't do much justice for the source material and tries to cram bits and pieces of the other books into the end. (this is probably because they knew they would not be doing all five books lol) Anyway, I hope you continue the PJO series and I hope Disney+ does a better job (fingers crossed!)
It's a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I kind of liked this movie better than the first? And I also liked the second book better than the first? Idk, I'm just a sucker for these Odyssey-type storylines. I didn't particularly enjoy the Narnia books, but Voyage of the Dawn reader was my absolute favorite out of all of them. Also, it's kind of hard for me to compare the books within the series because I switched from reading in translation to reading the original after Book 2. Unfortunately, the translation in my language wasn't very good, and since then I generally find Riordan's books more enjoyable and funny in English.
Well yeah, it’s pretty evident why it’s the death. They didn’t even put the main antagonist into the first movie and they skipped 3 books in order to revive and kill Kronos in the second movie. They cut a bunch of stuff out of each movie in order to fit the run time which I can get for some parts but they really screwed themselves with that first movie. That one was an awful adaptation. They skipped the fates cutting the yarn. They did capture the flag wrong. They skipped the fury’s on the bus. They skipped the arch. They skipped the diner and the water park. They skipped crusty’s mattresses. They added a fight against the hydra for some reason despite that not happening until the second book. They dragged the lotus casino on longer than they should’ve. Skipped Kronos trying to pull Percy into Tartarus. Skipped the Ares fight. Literally the climax of the story. Skipped the part where the helm of darkness was stolen. They added Persephone into the story for some reason but left out everything to do with Dionysus and ares. Clarrise wasn’t even in the movie. Annabeths hair was black. Like, they did almost nothing right about first movies adaptation. The second one was also just as awful but I don’t feel like writing a comment on pretty much every point in the movie.
1:27 Yikes. Star Trek: The Original Series was budget-slashed? What was Star Trek Season 3's budget per episode in relation to Season 2? When adjusted for inflation from 1968 to 2013, or not adjusted since they were finding a way to replicate 1960s production values in the 2010s, did the Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaigns for Star Trek Continues amount to something that un-slashed the budget for what was filmed to be Season 4 of The Original Series to give it closure? May 15, 2021, 12:44am
Here's hoping that the Percy Jackson Disney+ series stays true to the source material and don't end up becoming another misfire now that the original author, Rick Riordan is on board.
@@BrandenMcNabb actually, Fox did the Narnia movies, and before Disney bought Fox, even If I think the First one is great. And Star Wars in Disney gave us the final season of Clone Wars and The Mandalorian, and also the Bad Batch. So I have high hopes for Percy Jackson in Disney Plus.
Honestly you have to read all the books to understand where people are really coming from about these movies. It’s about how these first few movies really messed up things that are supposed to set up the rest of the books in the series (3,4, and 5 are probably the best books too)
Yeah I still remember that final battle with kronos in new york or some other city idk and the mini fight percy had with helios was also memorable for some reason. (I read them like 6 years ago so I don't actually remember any details).
In the video he said he enjoyed it when Luke was eaten by Kronos, and when he saw he was alive hoped he’d have a redemption arc. Now where does a redemption arc happen for Luke...... oh yeah, the books. Not to even mention how much of a “fuck you” having Kronos just chow down on Luke was to the plot of every single book to follow.
@@scratchsoft2347 yeah low key i forgot it’s 6 books instead of 5. Been so long. But wait if 4 was the labyrinth and 6 was the finale what was 5 again? It’s been so long man great books
Man if only he knew the worst thing they did. Kronos wasn’t revived until the fourth book and even that it was near the end of the book so it doesn’t even count. I can’t believe they got the big bad in the second movie which is basically shitting over the source material and the worst part is that they were planning to continue the movies with this outrageous decision they made if it didn’t flop as it did. Hope they learned something from this disaster of an adaptation.
Kronos was revived on the 4 book on a human form, but he was all the time teasing Percy before, since he was able to enter his mind and sometimes Percy was able to see him on the sleep
I know I’m gonna get dunked on, but I’d rather watch Percy Jackson than Artemis Fowl. At least those had some creative ideas. Artemis Fowl had nothing.
I mean at least Percy Jackson got the basic setup of its books right. Artemis Fowl completely ignored that its protagonist is basically a villain, which was the main selling point.
at this point all hopes for fans to get a good adaptation lie in the upcoming Disney+ series which to be frank with how A Series of Unfortunate Events turned out Maybe adapting books into episodic series is more the way to go moving forward
Them leaving out Circe’s island actually really screws up the backstories of two important characters in the sequel series and leaving out the Sirens messes with the explanation of fatal flaws
Granted I haven’t read the books since middle-high school so... 6ish years ago? But from what I remember the first book was great, second was probably the lowest tbh, third was better , fourth was amazing, and fifth was the climax we deserved. It had a big impact on my adolescence
@UCoze3rj0F-I-LI6DfFegK-g took the words right out of my mouth! Also crazy how similar our stories are. I started the series a little later, just before son of Neptune came out, so I started that immediately and bought every book as soon as it came out. I also loved the Kane chronicles and those AMAZING crossover novellas. Such a cool idea to include everything in one universe. I got half way through magnus chase but honestly, at that point, I had just outgrown riordan’s books. I still love the man and follow his social media’s but I understand I’m not his target audience anymore
I got introduced to his books at 18, so I was already beyond the target audience age range but I still enjoyed Magnus Chase and PJO, but that’s just my personal opinion. I also follow other authors he helps publish their novels about mythology. Hoo is my least favorite installment personally. I didn’t like the sudden shift in tone and I just couldn’t personally click with the series.
The final Peter Johnson film pretty much destroyed an already dead corpse of a franchise, and gave one last middle finger to the Percy Jackson fandom before being executed once and for all.
Here’s hoping Riordin’s Disney+ Percy Jackson show does his books justice. I’ve read every series in his shared demigod/pantheon universe and they deserve a proper adaptation!!
Sadly, this TH-camr misses a lot and is, despite being critical, WAY too soft. Seriously, at times i cringed when stuff was complimented where other Reviews criticize it to heck and back.
Technically he sorta did, but at the same time he didn’t. He killed the Horcrux of the diary, which had the memory of Tom Riddle, who is Voldemort. Film/book 4 then revealed that Voldemort is truly back and then film/book 6 revealed he split his soul. Its all very messed up, but entertaining nom the less.
Some genius thought defeating the two main villains of the book series in the second movie was a smart idea. One of these villains being Kronos, the Titan father of Gods. And he's destroyed by a bunch of kids. It's a good thing these people weren't in charge of Lord of the Rings because the Hobbits would destroy Sauron in the first movie.
To be fair. They changed directors and I think the second guy just went "what the fuck am I supposed to do with this mess" and just tried to wrap it up because they knew there wasn't going to be a third movie.
Yeah, Sea of Monsters was more of a transition book. It isn't insane in itself but helps set up a shitton while still maintaining a very natural and smooth transition.
As much as I agree with many of the points in your video, I think, as more of a book loyalist, reading the next few books is definitely necessary in understanding why this movie is so bad. By only reading up to the Sea of Monsters, one would miss probably half of the reasons why this movie was way worse than the first one, not that that's saying much
There's a moment in the film that perfectly sums up my entire feelings of it in a single line. When Percy and the gang get in this roller coaster cart, and it's just about to get going, but after 5 seconds it just stops. Tyson: ...Huh. I thought that'd be more fun. Me: So did I, Tyson. So did I.
What is the biggest thing the Percy Jackson Disney+ show will need to do differently?
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It needs to get the storyline straight and needs percy to actully look like a kid
Not change all the characters so drastically that they’re not the same characters, and actually read the freaking books.
Don't mash significant plot points from the later novels into the first two seasons.
be good
I think what they need to nail is the vibe, the films suffer from being turned from a really creative series to something that feels like generic middle school fiction chosen one and all.
It’s okay for it to be a little silly, it’s okay to use bright colors and honestly doing something a bit Tom Holland Spider-Man like would fit the series really well in my opinion. I can totally picture slow motion battles with sarcastic Percy commentary and punk and pop music during some scenes.
The books were my shit and it’s really disheartening seeing the emails between Rick Riordan and the studio, you can see him trying to save it
The movies are better
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The worst part of this movie as a fan of the books is how it basically just stole the climax of the 4th book, crammed it into this film, and then quickly resolved it. That would be like if Marvel put Thanos in Avengers 2, only gave him 10 minutes tops of screentime, then killed him off forever.
I have never heard a more accurate description
I remember being so mad I just walked out the theater when I realised that they were cramming the ending into this movie.
This is straight facts
They had simply decided it was going to be the last movie and wrapped it up. The first one wasn't a big enough hit and they didn't believe in the franchise potential. Stuff like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, MCU.... those are all planned long term.
I think you guys are forgetting the worst bit of this. After wrapping up the franchise for some reason they introduce Thalia back?! I feel like I'm remembering wrong but after that terrible ending I was even more confused cause they were trying to set up a sequel or something
The third book, Percy Jackson and The Titans curse is a real step up from both the Sea of Monsters and The Lightening thief. It’s my personal favourite out of the series. Give it a read if you can, it’s so enjoyable
'Competent, at least' he says
about completly incompetent movie-creation.
Uhm, yeah, ok?
No though?
Competent is the opposite of incompetent.
Yeah honestly same it’s my fav of the original series like it just focuses so much on the characters which was very important for HoO
Also, in this book he broke the mold of the summer camp. It was a mid-winter mission that went wrong that started the motion this time
Yes, I think the third book really was where the series "grew its beard".
The thing is that the second book isn't as good individually, but Percy Jackson really is a series where the sum of their parts is greater than any individual book. The books are really good, but the first two books really do a great job of building up to the final three (same with the Heroes of Olympus), which I why I would've recommended reading all of them before watching the second one, because it'll leave you wondering where they were trying to go after the second movie. Also books 5, 4, and 3 are probably the best written books of the series (in the order)
How did they expect us to take Kronos seriously as a threat after he's defeated in the 2nd film? Like how???
'Competent, at least' he says
about completly incompetent movie-creation.
Uhm, yeah, ok?
No though?
Competent is the opposite of incompetent.
@@luxinvictus9018 Technically competent in what sense?
In the sense that the creator literally apologized to the Fans?
@@luxinvictus9018 Uhm: Yet, it has Sequel-Baiting, or did you miss that?
The Fleece? The Daughter of Zeus? Hello?
Honestly there seems to be no real direction they were trying to take with the sea of monsters. At some points it seemed like they were expecting to get a sequel even though they used crucial plot points from the books that weren’t even close to coming to fruition yet and sometimes it seemed like they knew that the franchise wouldn’t continue by speeding up those plot points to bring the short lived franchise to an end with a neat little bow on top EVEN THOUGH they left it open for continuation. If they actually got the green light for another movie where would they have even taken the source material? They already used up and butchered major plots. The next few movies would basically just be completely different from the source material all together.
I guess in the event that they had decided to continue the franchise (for some reason), they could've revived him again.
I'm not sure about this bc I only saw the film when it came out, but didn't they say something like he hadn't completely recovered his power yet?
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i think that the captain of midnights should have read all the books before making his evaluation. I've read them all, and, well, this movie is terrible on so many levels. Luke not being the one to stop Kronos is just stupid and completely goes against the message, that Luke was the hero in the end. it's just annoying.
the second he said he didn't read the rest of the books I new it wasn't going to be good
Yea they should have, they don't even know how bad it is that Kronos got revealed in the second film
I also hate how he said every five minutes that this is just a book for kids, nothing especial.
@@x0xgregx0x Yes this exactly! The way the characters are all dismissed off the bat by being just "Rick Riordan" characters and how they're far too simple to get wrong even though the movie was doing just that made me a little sad to hear. I absolutely adored these books growing up and recently re-read all of them alongside my sister, who at this point is pursuing grad school. We both thoroughly enjoyed going through the series again and re-experiencing our love for it. They might not be all that complex in the beginning, but captainmidnight even admits that the characters in the movies are wayyy too aged up and the ones in the books are still very, very young teenagers.
Take Harry Potter for example here, the protags are young in both book and movie and they make childish descicions because they're, well, children and that's to be expected but they're not blamed for being children or chalked up to being inherently incomplex characters just because they're written like teenagers. And they do become more complex over time as both they and the audience that read/watched them grew up. It just seems unfair that these "Rick Riordan" characters are given such treatement because I remember and love the books so fondly; to hear them dismissed so completely in passing like that... hurts.
Subtlety is a lost art. Makes most people glaze over important details
I distinctly remember getting the chance to see a preview of this movie from one of my dad's friends when i was like 11. I invited a few friends and watched the movie in a small theatre and when I left I was actually crying from how much they had butchered my favorite series.
I saw a clip from this movie in a university cafeteria once, specifically the scene where Percy demonstrates his exceptional navigational abilities on water for the first time, represented in the film by latitude and longitude lines overlaid on the water, and thought, "Huh, that's a clever way to visually represent for the audience his supernatural ability to know exactly where in the world he is as long as he's on or near the ocean. Good job, movie, you did something well."
Then he explained it as something he was literally seeing and completely ruined what little respect I had for the scene.
Funny how the one sequence you enjoyed never happened in the books🤣
Kind of goes to show how the filmmakers would've been better off making their *own* story that may have been much more successful and had a lot less backlash rather than trying to cash in on the Percy Jackson name and fans.
Yo ya'll don't have to hope that the Disney+ series will be good.
It'll be awesome. Rick and his wife are completely involved into the script writing and casting.
Man if they can nail the child casting like the Harry Potter films did, I know it’ll be amazing.
I'm a huge Percy Jackson fan and grew up with the books. Most of my friends have also read the series and the consensus was that Sea of Monsters is the weakest book in the series. The best books in my opinion are 1 and 5.
I really loved these books. I couldn’t get through Harry Potter books but the Percy Jackson series had me wanting to read as fast as possible.
perfect timing just sat down for a meal
Finally someone that appreciates Clarisse in the movie!!
if you get a chance, i'd keep working with the books, at least until you hit the battle of the labyrinth. I'd say it's easily riordan's strongest novel out of the first 5, with plenty of action scenes and surprisingly good worldbuilding. it's definitely my favorite percy jackson book
you should finish the books, i read them long time ago but books 4 and 5 were incredible, and the following books with the Roman camp were even better.
one of the things that riordan does well is character descriptions. everyone has some idea of how the characters are supposed to look. i think the reason why people were annoyed with daddario's brown hair in the first film was because annabeth's hair is so iconic to her character, because of riordan's skill at establishing that. this movie really doesn't do clarisse well visually, they took a character who was more buff and stocky and made her skinny. it's a small nitpick bit still a big difference in characterization
The thing about that 5 million budget cut is that it was probably cut at the end of production - they saw they had a dud and therefore they didn’t bother finishing all the effects.
U should React to the maze runner series especially scorch trials
The first film was amazing and was kind of like the first book
Scorch trials was no where near like the book
And death cure was ok u can pull some scenes and recognise it from the book but some of it was back to front and some of the important parts of the story was kind of missed
I really loved these books as a kid and it’s the reason I love mythology so much. The films had so much potential but flopped
6:57 wait, if the eyes are in the middle then he shouldnt be able to see anything with sun glasses on :D
Damn that has to be the smoothest transition to an audible ad that I have ever seen!
The dumbest thing is that they took the climax of the 4TH BOOK and crammed it into this.
Like what??? And I can't believe what they did to Tyson.
I agree on sea of monsters tho, it's my least favorite book in the Riordanverse but it's still great. There's so many scenes I think about a lot.
I read all the books and was so excited to see a movie franchise come out... but I think you hit this perfectly. What seemed like an easy thing to transfer to a movie screen just flopped. They didn't try or put much heart into this project. :/ oh well maybe they could try again? (probably not)
Funny how Brandon T Jackson actually being older than the rest might be the most accurate thing that happened since Satyrs are known to age twice faster than humans/demigods.
Thank you sir as always for making content I’m interested in even if I don’t particularly care about the subject. Now I understand how this massive YA property ended up falling apart.
Why is nobody taking about that buttery smooth transition to the sponsor?
I really think captain midnight should read the third book. It's the *one* book in the series next to the last one that feels _made_ for being a movie, AND introduces one of my most favourite characters, who has excellent character development even for a "kid's series"
I think Sea of Monsters is like Chamber of secrets there’s stuff I like in it and it had an amazing call back later in the future but it’s really really forgettable! I understand what it was going for but besides the bit in the beginning , the boat , a reference in the middle, and the very end nothing .... really happens.
Honestly that was a great lead into the add I ain’t see that coming
I loved the books as a child as well, and this is basically the first time I even heard there was a second movie. The fuck....
I couldn't take this movie seriously because I watched it after Texas chainsaw and that end battle left a specific impression on me.
i remember kind of defending movie adaptations of really good novels since you just can't put everything in a movie. but THIS? this movie makes me angry like how percy gets angry whenever he sees ares. like i can go on rambling about every part of the movie but the scene where percy defeated kronos with the cursed blade? NOT EVEN ZEUS DEFEATED KRONOS WITH ALL THE POWER THAT HE HAD AND YET A DEMIGOD DEFEATED KRONOS???? i stopped defending movie adaptations after that.
Only thing i can thanks these movies for are my middle school crush on Alexandra Daddario
i been waiting for this one
that was an excellent segue into your ad. But... ah i've been a member for years.
Ok but here’s the thing. The whole point of the book is that Grover was stuck, of course there isn’t any Grover same in Titans curse where there’s no Annebeth, espicaly in the book there lots of grover
I think Tyson's lines (maybe changed a bit) could work well in film if delivered like he's a small child
It should have been called, 'Percy Jackson; Sea of Monster' because there was just one, one monster...
That sponsorship transition was smooth as butter, my guy.
First movie I’ve caught while subbed! Thanks for the incredible work :)
We need a petition to cast Lerman as Poseidon (or maybe some other role) and to find a role for Brandon T Jackson in the new Disney Plus series, bc i like both of them and think they deserve a second chance
Also it felt like the best parts of the books get cut out from both movie adaptations
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One of the biggest problems with this movie is that it revealed several major plot twists from the book series without bothering to set up at all why they mattered. They came too early to even be considered twists of any kind
They better not mess up this Disney+ series or I will riot
Rick is heavily involved in the series so there's no way they're gonna mess up. Unless you want 100% accurate adaptation, which it wont because Rick already said they will add more scenes that werent in the books to give more backstory and lore
You should do the Alex Rider series. Teenage spy novels.
I'm pretty sure that "In the stomach" scene wasn't even in the book, though I haven't read it in awhile so dont quote me on that.
Honestly the second book is probably the weakest of anything Riordan has released in this universe, not to say it’s bad, but to say not to be discouraged. Honestly Midnight really should have just trusted the thousands of fans in the last video. Hearing him not even touch on the 2/3 of the movie ripped from other books just makes this a laughingstock of a video to me
Any one else see the Similarities between these two movies and clash of the titans and wrath of the titans
Netflix should take it over like series of unfortunate events
As far as the OG saga goes book wise, sea of monsters isn't nearly as captivating as the titans curse, and the labyrinth is chalk full of character development. The last Olympian brings the tense nature of the lighting thief back, but turns it up to 11.
LOVED these books. watched the first one, couldn't handle the disappointment of the second. so so so glad disney+ is making it a show WITH Riordan
could you look at the good omens tv show
it is my favourite adaption from book to tv, they remove so much slack the book didn't need while keeping all the stuff that was great, they got rid of parts that were slightly confusing and shortened parts that were too long in the book, but they keep everything that needs to be in there, some scenes have the dialogue perfectly word to word, not 1 change, everything exact, it is my favourite adaption, it is my favourite books, one of my favourite tv shows, the casting was perfect, David tenant and Michael sheen have so much chemistry, it's great, please read the book, and please watch it if you haven't
For years I had no idea this film was made.
Logan Lerman was 21 when sea of monsters came out LMFAOO Alex was closer to her damn 30’s
One Reason that Clarisse seems like a jerk for no reason in this universe seems to be the fact they left out the whole reason the Ares cabin hates Percy and thats him beating their dad in a fight. So now even if we had got to the fifth book The ares cabin refusing to fight would have been like they just made up all the misdeads that happened to them. These first movies really screwed any possibility of anything good
I never read the Sea of Monsters book, I read most of them second hand from my big sister, but she lost Sea of Monsters, and so I never read it
The best thing about the new casting (besides the actors being the right age) is that Percy DOES NOT have to be white! I'm so happy, especially since his experience is pretty POC coded and you can still have green eyes while being tan.
“Can’t handle the complexity of Rick riordan characters.” He writes better and deeper characters than a majority of authors. Sure they aren’t insanely complex to where you need a phd to understand but they’re complex enough to where if you come back and read the books later in life you’ll realize a lot of things about those characters that you didn’t before simply because you were too young.
I feel that the 2nd book is the weakest of the 5 but that it's still enjoyable and set up some important plot points for the series
While the first movie is kinda fun to joke and roll your eyes at, this movie is just painful. It really thought it was doing something better and completely missed the mark.
I remember how disappointed I was at 14 when I saw this in theaters, ruined my childhood before my childhood was even over.
I will say Sea of Monsters was always the shortest and the book I longed for more out of. That being said the books after leave this one in the dust wirh content (even with the odessey/Jason paralels)
I heard someone say that Wesley Wyndam Price was a better Watcher for Buffy than Giles. Would you prefer Anthony Stewart Head or Alexis Denissof?
And this is why I'm glad there not a Warriors movie.
Never underestimate Hollywood's ability to write unsatisfying characters and/or re-write good characters into poorly done characters. There are just to many "idea people" in Hollywood who get their ideas from other bad movies with empty characters.
one of the big parts of the story is about percy turning 16..... when hes already up there in age it throws that out the window...
The most atrocious thing that this movie did was have Kronos Luke. That messes up his entire character arc. Luke thinks that the titans will treat him better than the gods do, which is why he spends most of the series trying to free Kronos. If the very first thing that Kronos does when partially freed is to try to Luke, why would Luke keep trying to free him?
The second worst thing that the movie did was make Clarisse hot. It took someone who was supposed to be an ugly jerk and turned her into a thirst trap 😅
Sadly yes this movie,while it had very few ups especially with the effects, was the final nail in the coffin. I wish they just stuck with the books,maybe Percy could have been almost as big as Harry Potter especially with the sequel series Heroes Of Olympus having such Awesome new characters,villains,and story that definitely wasn't what I expected 🤧❤
I think the books could have been closer to the avengers, if they are able to get Cater, Sadie, Magnus and Jason and the Romans to the screen as well as Percy. I would have loved to see an awesome team up like that!
the talk about luke not having any depth can be extended to kronos. A highly intelligent all powerful being pulling strings behind the scenes not all to dissimilar to mcu thanos turned into a big dumb horny fire devil - I mean he is the titan of agriculture and time ffs (not withstanding the movie crammed in 3 books into 10minutes)
Logan Lerman is the only reason why I watch these Movies
I love both movies but this one is my favorite
not gonna lie that was smooth transition to sponsor
circe is such a good book!!!
With the first movie there is no way they could do an entire series they messed it up from the start
I hope you finish the book series on your own, it's definitely worth it! In my opinion The Sea of Monsters is the weaker book of the five and the series just continued to get better from there, at least for me. This movie doesn't do much justice for the source material and tries to cram bits and pieces of the other books into the end. (this is probably because they knew they would not be doing all five books lol) Anyway, I hope you continue the PJO series and I hope Disney+ does a better job (fingers crossed!)
It's a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I kind of liked this movie better than the first? And I also liked the second book better than the first? Idk, I'm just a sucker for these Odyssey-type storylines. I didn't particularly enjoy the Narnia books, but Voyage of the Dawn reader was my absolute favorite out of all of them. Also, it's kind of hard for me to compare the books within the series because I switched from reading in translation to reading the original after Book 2. Unfortunately, the translation in my language wasn't very good, and since then I generally find Riordan's books more enjoyable and funny in English.
Anyone else remember seeing this film in theaters?
Yes,and I regreted it.
@@berengustav7714 Likewise
I can't be the only one who actually likes the percy Jackson movies
the first movie was so disliked by fans I genuinely didn't know they ever made a second movie... this is legit my first time finding out about it :0
wait... there was a second movie.. Who knew.
Well yeah, it’s pretty evident why it’s the death. They didn’t even put the main antagonist into the first movie and they skipped 3 books in order to revive and kill Kronos in the second movie. They cut a bunch of stuff out of each movie in order to fit the run time which I can get for some parts but they really screwed themselves with that first movie. That one was an awful adaptation. They skipped the fates cutting the yarn. They did capture the flag wrong. They skipped the fury’s on the bus. They skipped the arch. They skipped the diner and the water park. They skipped crusty’s mattresses. They added a fight against the hydra for some reason despite that not happening until the second book. They dragged the lotus casino on longer than they should’ve. Skipped Kronos trying to pull Percy into Tartarus. Skipped the Ares fight. Literally the climax of the story. Skipped the part where the helm of darkness was stolen. They added Persephone into the story for some reason but left out everything to do with Dionysus and ares. Clarrise wasn’t even in the movie. Annabeths hair was black. Like, they did almost nothing right about first movies adaptation. The second one was also just as awful but I don’t feel like writing a comment on pretty much every point in the movie.
Dude I hope the new Disney+ series is animated or something. We don't need anymore live action.
I also did not enjoy Sea of Monsters (the book) as much as Lightning Thief. Does not excuse the movie though.
CaptainMidnight you shold review the bible
Liked both movies, & they are 100 times better than the MCU/Disney crap being peddled now. Will rewatch soon.. Thx
1:27 Yikes. Star Trek: The Original Series was budget-slashed? What was Star Trek Season 3's budget per episode in relation to Season 2? When adjusted for inflation from 1968 to 2013, or not adjusted since they were finding a way to replicate 1960s production values in the 2010s, did the Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaigns for Star Trek Continues amount to something that un-slashed the budget for what was filmed to be Season 4 of The Original Series to give it closure? May 15, 2021, 12:44am
Here's hoping that the Percy Jackson Disney+ series stays true to the source material and don't end up becoming another misfire now that the original author, Rick Riordan is on board.
Isn't the actor going to be helping w the show
@@shortstuff780 I think you mean the Author, Rick Riordan, but yes Rick will heavily be involved in the Percy Jackson Disney+ series.
If Disney pulls a Marvel, all will be fine. If Disney pulls a Narnia or Star Wars, we're doomed.
@@BrandenMcNabb actually, Fox did the Narnia movies, and before Disney bought Fox, even If I think the First one is great. And Star Wars in Disney gave us the final season of Clone Wars and The Mandalorian, and also the Bad Batch. So I have high hopes for Percy Jackson in Disney Plus.
@@arthurfortes8398 Disney made the first 2 Narnia movies, Fox only made the third one
Honestly you have to read all the books to understand where people are really coming from about these movies. It’s about how these first few movies really messed up things that are supposed to set up the rest of the books in the series (3,4, and 5 are probably the best books too)
Yeah I still remember that final battle with kronos in new york or some other city idk and the mini fight percy had with helios was also memorable for some reason. (I read them like 6 years ago so I don't actually remember any details).
In the video he said he enjoyed it when Luke was eaten by Kronos, and when he saw he was alive hoped he’d have a redemption arc. Now where does a redemption arc happen for Luke...... oh yeah, the books. Not to even mention how much of a “fuck you” having Kronos just chow down on Luke was to the plot of every single book to follow.
@@scratchsoft2347 yeah low key i forgot it’s 6 books instead of 5. Been so long. But wait if 4 was the labyrinth and 6 was the finale what was 5 again? It’s been so long man great books
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@@nBUMBA There are only five books in the original series, He might be referring to the first book in the sequel series series the heroes of olympus
Man if only he knew the worst thing they did. Kronos wasn’t revived until the fourth book and even that it was near the end of the book so it doesn’t even count. I can’t believe they got the big bad in the second movie which is basically shitting over the source material and the worst part is that they were planning to continue the movies with this outrageous decision they made if it didn’t flop as it did. Hope they learned something from this disaster of an adaptation.
Eragon fans know the feel, they killed off important villains from books 2-3 halfway through the first movie
@@luxinvictus9018 Yeah, this youtuber kinda failed to understand how bad those adatpational movies here are...
@@noncanalepricnipale Cool.
Kronos was revived on the 4 book on a human form, but he was all the time teasing Percy before, since he was able to enter his mind and sometimes Percy was able to see him on the sleep
@@marinadeburgos8666 Movie-Luke will never try to help Kronos against; that much is for sure, duh.
He's eaten him, after all.
he's not a caveman in the books, he's a baby! he's a baby cyclops! that's why most characters don't think he's dangerous
yer a baby caveman for not understanding how comparison works.
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For every Harry Potter or LOTR, there’s a Percy Jackson/Artemis Fowl.
I know I’m gonna get dunked on, but I’d rather watch Percy Jackson than Artemis Fowl. At least those had some creative ideas. Artemis Fowl had nothing.
@@IsaacV24 The girl who played Holly Short was good tho.
I mean at least Percy Jackson got the basic setup of its books right. Artemis Fowl completely ignored that its protagonist is basically a villain, which was the main selling point.
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at this point all hopes for fans to get a good adaptation lie in the upcoming Disney+ series which to be frank with how A Series of Unfortunate Events turned out Maybe adapting books into episodic series is more the way to go moving forward
Them leaving out Circe’s island actually really screws up the backstories of two important characters in the sequel series and leaving out the Sirens messes with the explanation of fatal flaws
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i mean they were obviously ending the series here and for sure not doing heroes of olympus so i guess it makes sense
Granted I haven’t read the books since middle-high school so... 6ish years ago? But from what I remember the first book was great, second was probably the lowest tbh, third was better , fourth was amazing, and fifth was the climax we deserved. It had a big impact on my adolescence
@UCoze3rj0F-I-LI6DfFegK-g took the words right out of my mouth! Also crazy how similar our stories are. I started the series a little later, just before son of Neptune came out, so I started that immediately and bought every book as soon as it came out. I also loved the Kane chronicles and those AMAZING crossover novellas. Such a cool idea to include everything in one universe. I got half way through magnus chase but honestly, at that point, I had just outgrown riordan’s books. I still love the man and follow his social media’s but I understand I’m not his target audience anymore
we're the same, the 2nd book is my least fave and the 4th was my ultimate fave
I got introduced to his books at 18, so I was already beyond the target audience age range but I still enjoyed Magnus Chase and PJO, but that’s just my personal opinion. I also follow other authors he helps publish their novels about mythology.
Hoo is my least favorite installment personally. I didn’t like the sudden shift in tone and I just couldn’t personally click with the series.
@@alystdesign same!
Yeah probably
The final Peter Johnson film pretty much destroyed an already dead corpse of a franchise, and gave one last middle finger to the Percy Jackson fandom before being executed once and for all.
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“You must save Olympus, Pedro!”
I friggin love Mr D’s inability to care enough to get names right.
@@theinimitablejora522 I like how he definitely knows their names, but he still screws around and comes up with funny ~similar~ names
oh shit didn't know dionysus had a youtube account
Peter Johnson
Here’s hoping Riordin’s Disney+ Percy Jackson show does his books justice. I’ve read every series in his shared demigod/pantheon universe and they deserve a proper adaptation!!
Sadly, this TH-camr misses a lot and is, despite being critical, WAY too soft.
Seriously, at times i cringed when stuff was complimented where other Reviews criticize it to heck and back.
@@loturzelrestaurant to be fair, he hasnt read the series just this book and lightning to see how really damaging it was
Imagine if Harry Potter defeated a returned Voldemort in a second movie?
Technically he sorta did, but at the same time he didn’t. He killed the Horcrux of the diary, which had the memory of Tom Riddle, who is Voldemort. Film/book 4 then revealed that Voldemort is truly back and then film/book 6 revealed he split his soul. Its all very messed up, but entertaining nom the less.
It's the fact that he wasn't supposed to be back until book 4
Pretty much
"Somehow, Voldemort returned."
@@daphonaisetoastonice5872 Goblet of Fire
Some genius thought defeating the two main villains of the book series in the second movie was a smart idea. One of these villains being Kronos, the Titan father of Gods. And he's destroyed by a bunch of kids.
It's a good thing these people weren't in charge of Lord of the Rings because the Hobbits would destroy Sauron in the first movie.
That has some season 8 vibes.
If these goobers,made the MCU,Thor would oneshot Thanos in his first movie.
To be fair. They changed directors and I think the second guy just went "what the fuck am I supposed to do with this mess" and just tried to wrap it up because they knew there wasn't going to be a third movie.
Nah nah if they did LOTR Bilbo would have killed Smaug and Sauron at once
And it's Kronos true form,like if Sauron retreived the Ring.
Yeah, Sea of Monsters was more of a transition book. It isn't insane in itself but helps set up a shitton while still maintaining a very natural and smooth transition.
Yea it's my least favorite but it sets up the story a lot. Also it introduces best boy Tyson, I gotta love it
Sea of Thieves? It's Sea of MONSTERS, my friend.
@@willw1991 autocorrect. I retyped it but it apparently redid it again and I didn't notice it.
@@danielhavoc889 ohh lulz :P
yeah like, in the books: now the good shit is happening, starting with titans curse.
As much as I agree with many of the points in your video, I think, as more of a book loyalist, reading the next few books is definitely necessary in understanding why this movie is so bad. By only reading up to the Sea of Monsters, one would miss probably half of the reasons why this movie was way worse than the first one, not that that's saying much
There's a moment in the film that perfectly sums up my entire feelings of it in a single line.
When Percy and the gang get in this roller coaster cart, and it's just about to get going, but after 5 seconds it just stops.
Tyson: ...Huh. I thought that'd be more fun.
Me: So did I, Tyson. So did I.