The World Over February 15, 2024 | WOMEN'S ORDINATION? The Papal Posse with Raymond Arroyo
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- Robert Royal & Fr. Gerald Murray discuss the latest Church news coming from the Vatican including women's ordination being promoted at the Vatican and the growing dissent from the controversial Vatican directive on blessings (Fiducia Supplicans).
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Fr. Murray is a very wise man and the CC needs priests like him. I wish he would be the pope.
I hope and pray he won’t end up like bp Strickland. God bless you Father! Stay wise, stay faithful! No matter what!
Fr. Murray is on 🎯
Please pray for the Vicar of Christ for the directions of the Holy Spirit.
Please remember that Francis refused the title Vicar of Christ. He does not care about Christ or the Holy Spirit.
I personally, am praying that they convene a council of Cardinals, so as to remove this heretic, by the name of Pope Francis !
Francis is guided by the spirit of the age
We have to pray for the pope 😢
I’m thankful to be a woman. We can still evangelize without being a deacon or priest. We are just as valuable to The Lord.
@@mpkropf5062Not just that. They tend to be big liberals too and the reason they are so eager to invade the priesthood is so they can start pushing their feminist agenda in the Church.
World over Arroyo and friends are bent to bash Pope Francis a diabolical agenda...they only come up with deliberate incorrect interpretations..
This team is out break up the RC Church..
Sensationalise innocuous statements....Arroyo go to sleep
I thank the woman already do more for the church
No women's ordination PERIOD! A priest is supposed to be a father to his flock. Being a father is a MAN'S job, NOT a woman's job.
Amen! And I'm a woman who doesn't want this crap.
The hierarchy are listening to people who do not have the best of intentions for the Church!!
@@jl453Those women have a heart problem that think they need to be equal to men! Totally against sacred scripture!
A woman can be a Mother. The church will gain to have women deacons! Serving God has nothing to do with gender. The church needs to stop being phalocratic
Canon law is a church discipline and can be revised! The first person to announce Jesus resurrection was a woman and not a man! Serving God has nothing to do with gender.
If this is true, what's coming next? Prayers for our Catholic Church 🙏🙏⚘️
When I think of Benedict I think of holiness and clarity...when I think of Francis I think of confusion, ambiguity and sophistry . I pray that our Catholic Church will recover its mission to the Way the Truth and the Life.
Call it what it is .. EVIL
I pray that you can find a white Christian nationalist Church and leave us in peace.
I agree with your opinion of the contrast between these 2 popes.
It has been defined as a doctrine of faith that only men can receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders [John Paul II, 1994].
Pray pray pray.
I have to say...that right now? We are up against satan....and we need to do more serious Fasting and abstinence....the wolves that are dressed as sheep are no longer hiding... they are now proud of being wolves.
I have a feeling I’m going to be eating a lot of meatless pasta this lent. I don’t have any meat meals planned anyway and no meat thawing currently
God Bless the Papal Possee! I wish all Priests were like Fr Murray! 🙏😇
Yes God bless the African Bishops.
Excellent discussion gentlemen, thanks 🙏✝️
Read your Bible, people. God's Truth is there.
Great discussion as always. Thank you!
It all comes down to interpretation.....
The saint doctors and theologians of the church have the correct interpretation
Why do we always get updates from third party sources? Why do we have soundbite theology? Why can't the Pope communicate with us directly? Why is the opinion of non Catholics more valuable to the Pope than the opinions of faithful Catholics?
Because faithful Catholics “breed like rabbits”, like he said when he first became pope. It was quite insulting to large Catholic families Most whom go to the traditional latin mass.
Why doesn’t the pope just say this issue is closed
Furthermore, why is this woman heretic bishop invited to this discussion
Because didn’t he say in 2021 no blessing of homosexuals or something like that and then this document came out December 18?
This is so evil😢. Please o Lord grant us many holy priests, bishops, cardinals.🙏🙏🙏
how is it evil
@@JohnLeaps Ordination is only for males.
@@karlheven8328 But he's not promoting ordination for women in fact he made a canon in 2021 that a Bishop that ordains a female will be automatically excommunicated. He's respecting another religion. You should check the canon law on that before making a judgement.
@@JohnLeaps Hmm... Somehow I read many statements of the opposite view, claiming he is for it. Lots of confusion. This is totally unnecessary and the so called Anglican Church is a failing church. Bad press! As a recent convert (last year from Lutheranism I am 24) this is all very disconcerting in combination with the other contentious issues...
@@karlheven8328 Tell Jesus that then, he created the template to reach sinners
Oh my, as a woman, I find it so unsettling to see a female with a white collar....will never understand why women would desire this Fatherly role. Please Lord, in Your Mercy, protect the strong Catholic men who are protecting the true Catholic faith. I pray for the Pope and for clarity from the Vatican. Come Holy Spirit, we are making a mess here.... scandals abound.
Nailed to the cross was a man: Jesus Christ, Who died for our redemption and salvation. A woman cannot replicate what Jesus accomplished on the cross for us.
Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith. [1 Corinthians 14:34]
Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection.
[1 Timothy 2:11]
Appreciate you all
Remember, Anglicans aren't priests, or priestesses, by their own definition. Priests offer sacrifice and Anglican vicars must sign the 39 Articles before ordination where sacramental sacrifice is denied and forbidden..
The bishop of Rome hath no authority in this realm of England
This is why i dont understand why they are involved in our discussions/decisions
Um, maybe you’ve not heard that there are Catholic bishops in England that are in union with Rome? What century are you living in? 16th century under Elizabeth?
Mother Angelica, pray for us!
Francis could care less what the tradition of the church says, he’s a destroyer
You should not speak of the Holy Father without reverence, even if your assessment is correct. He is the Vicar of Christ, and the Lord may hold you accountable for disparaging him. Not even St. Padre Pio dared to speak against his Pope when he was silenced, and he was wronged by the Pope. If he could not do so, how could you rightfully do so?
Welcoming heretics to discuss what goes on in our church is scandalous
Like what happened at the council of trent? Where the pope even gave safe passage to protestants? loool
@@trick1809 The Pope himself said the Church of England is on a path to self destruction.
@@Jeff-fv8qk how is that specifically related to my earlier reply? Loool
@@trick1809 How does my post relate to a council that occurred 479 years ago?
@@Jeff-fv8qkthey were saying that the presence of non Catholics with the Pope is nothing new
✝Cardinal Gerhard Muller is now probably the best leader in the Catholic Church !.
No female deacons! It will eventually go to women becoming priests!!! This is absolutely ridiculous!
Where is your faith? The Church has INFALLIBLY taught that there can be no women priests. The Church can't err, thus there will never be women priests. Have faith. Remember the Creed: I believe one, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
@@blessedvirginmaryisqueen8448 please stop it!
@@blessedvirginmaryisqueen8448
Unfortunately, with this current pope, pope Francis, you never know what’s going to happen. Did you expect him to release the document about climate change when he was first shown on the balcony? Or to attack the traditional Latin mass, hurting a lot of good big Catholic families?
This ship wreck of a Papacy has continued because our Bishops are useless. In 2014 when he tried to rig the Synod and 14 Cardinals intervened to stop it.
Australian Bishops are the greatest cowards of all.
We need an no-nonsense African pope.
In Quebec most of the catholic churches are closing. Please get some good catholic books translated into french.
I’m surprised. I thought EWTN was pope leaning. Glad you’re calling it out as it is and not pretending that everything in the Church and her politics are fine.
Raymond Arroyo is Mother Angelica’s right hand.
When the pope is holy and right, EWTN promotes and repeats what the pope says. Mother Angelica loved JP2 and defended him against the liberal bishops. Today, Raymond Arroyo rightfully defends the church against a liberal pope.
Good pod today as always!
Why are they studying this, is it because they have to much free time and money?!
Its funny Raymond mentioned Vaudeville. For awhile it has felt like amateur hour at the Vatican with all the nonsense that has been going on.
👍 Absolutely ! My mood, is less than gay (Hamlet).
😢
This is the papal playbook. Others introduce a controversial agenda item. The pope denies it or remains quiet. But the gate is open and it is a done deal. Example? The German Church.
Pope Pius 10ths' Motu Propio on Liturgical music did NOT result in a change ( no women in choirs) as he would have liked to see implemented. It seems like what should have been adhered to wasn't followed. Now with Pope Francis some are following what shouldn't be adhered to. I am distressed by what he is doing to the Extraordinary form of the mass. It seems like persecution and is tearfully saddening.
I see nothing wrong with a mixed choir at the traditional Latin mass high mass, though it makes more sense to have a men’s choir when you have a certain holy day high mass.
The pope's writings must be reviewed by linguistic experts before publication, please.
I am Anglo-Catholic and 72 years old. For me, the answer to this 'female ordination' is very simple. Jesus NEVER called a woman to His ministry. How do we have the nerve to even consider such a thing? I don't consider it at all. It can not be done.
Exactly. Follow the example of our Blessed Lord. He only appointed 12 men.
Evangelism and Teaching: Women actively participated in spreading the gospel. Priscilla, along with her husband Aquila, taught Apollos (Acts 18:2-3). Phoebe, a deaconess, carried Paul’s letter to the Romans (Romans 16:1-2).
Thank you for pointing this out🙏
This is terrible Why can’t the Church. stay close to the Lord. And Trust Him?
Cast out the spirit of Jezebel within the Kingdom. Why didn't Jesus ordain Mary Magdalene or Mary His own Mother to the Holy orders? Replacement of Judas why Mathias vs Barsabbas and not Mary Magdala vs Virgin Mary.
Those are good points. Well made. We should be like those holy women & other female saints. Humility is a virtue.
Exactly. no one equates the two. Plus Francis really implies all business men are evil.
Prayers for the people! What to do with a heretic Pope????? REMOVE THE HERETIC POPE
I am a woman, Catholic, and opposed to women's ordination in the Church. There are plenty of Catholic ministries for women to be involved with.
So when Bergoglio sternly says several times that woman connot become ordained, he's lying.
Something no one has yet mentioned. If jesus had wanted women in priestly service, why did He 1.) say nothing of this; 2.) what an insult to Our Blessed Lady, who above all women, would be most eligible; 3.) what about Mary Magdelan, and numerous other female deciples? Rather that fall victim to the sin of pride, should we not follow in Our Lady's footsteps and live the greatest of all virtues humility? God created man and woman to be complimentary, not competitive.
Stating the obvious. The pope doesn’t care about the obvious. He’s being sneaky on purpose.
And is sad that the USCCB is silent in this matter and the reading is that they advocate for this heresy
And Ecumenist Heresy seems to be plaguing the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I hope that Pope Francis is DIRECT in rejection of these ideas...but sadly, he tends to not do such actions all of the time. We will watch the Universal Church split by heresy from the top of the worldly hierarchy.
Pray for the Vicar of Christ, the Successor of Saint Peter.
I lost my respect for this pope even before the infamous document. He is a very dark man.
His thinking and agenda comes from the lake of fire.
DO SOMETHING CONCRETE ,STRIGHT TALK AGAINST ALL THIS , OR QUITE TALK TALK TALK , THIS ALL NEEDS REAL PREIST , MEN , TO STAND UP AGAINST THIS ALL , YESTERDAY , !!!!!
Agreed. The cardinals and bishops need to do something. Remove Francis as a heretic.
Finally comments are left open
why would he allow women's ordination this is outrageous what is pope Francis doing
Because he simply isnt
What i do not understand is , why are women and other 'faiths' such as anglican, who rejected the catholic one true church, why are the included in the synods of the CC, surely they are there soley to change our church into their sects
Why call him holy father this is untrue
Yes. The sky is blue but it requires more study.
Cardinal Fernandez must resign.
One foot in the SSPX
Is the leaven of feminism and division about to enter into the clergy of the Church?
This a breakdown of roles. Women have had to take on male roles in life. We need to fix our males and raise them to lead well and gently with wisdom and grace. You see this in so many areas.
Well said Tiffany, as a man I completely agree with you. 👏
I wish that Catholic church gives the bishops the option to ordain only 1 woman priest in their parish.
Jesus gave the apostles the power of the absolution on earth, and it will be the same in heaven.
I know that Paul, in his epistles, wrote it is not good for women to talk in the church.
In Australia, the average age of priests is above 60 years old.
What's wrong with this pope? He keeps changing what has been instituted by Christ 2000 years ago.
Incorrect. You've bought into the lies. This see of St. Peter always remains unblemished by any error - Pastor Aeternus 4
@@matthewschmidt5069 the pope's infallibility only goes as far as issues/teachings on faith and morals. In matters involving the Canon Law, I don't think it applies. He needs to consult with the ecclesiastical council.
@@apd7edge The notion that the Pope can seriously harm the Church non infalliblly is refuted. Your appeal to a council is condemned as conciliarism. Read Lateran V and Vatican I
@@matthewschmidt5069 the words you speak are harsh and strong when my discussions merely involved procedural. My take on the pope's changing of issues involving the church is my opinion. No words of condemnation please, you are overreacting. Must be a boring day for you. So sorry I can't indulge much longer. Have a nice day.
@@apd7edge Your words are gravely harmful to the body of Christ and are lies. You need to consider the seriousness of what you say. People are leaving the Church over misunderstanding.
Bergoglio needs to be removed.
Roman teaching admits of no earthly judge, contra the practice in the early centuries.
Please God remove him 🙏🏼
Repent of your slander. This see of St. Peter always remains unblemished by any error - Pastor Aeternus 4
Good thing the Church isnt a democracy where you impeach your president.. that’s what happens when politics take over your faith
@@matthewschmidt5069
Recall Pope Honorius' belief that Jesus did not have two wills. It was a heretical belief for which he was condemned. His successor Leo II said of him, " Honorius, who did not attempt to sanctify this Apostolic Church with the teaching of Apostolic tradition, but by profane treachery permitted its purity to be polluted.”
Once this happens, I am out. He has already banned the Latin Mass.
It will not happen! You guys realy have zero faith I see..🤦🏾
@Great1Duane They are in schism
This see of St. Peter always remains unblemished by any error - Pastor Aeternus 4
@@ndumferdy2545 how do you know. Look at everything that's happened already.
Good riddance then. Might as well bring yourself to islam
You cannot bless something that is wrong in many many ways a Man Cannot marry a man or a woman cannot marry a woman. Marriage is between a man and a woman and I know this to be true, my mother and Father were married for 51 years when he died and I have 7 brothers and a sister what more can I say.
Please Brothers, I would like to ask a question, very relevant but not directly connected with the subject on this video! God ,Bless you!
No blessing to same sex unity but bless us all, including gays and lesbians.
That wasn’t a woman bishop that was a fake heretical so-called “ bishop“. Anglicans do not have valid ordination, nor do they have apostolic succession.
🍶🍪🥛🍩☕Please remember:☕🍩[Francis] is a [Secular Pope].🍩☕Not a [Vicar of Christ]🫖
☕🍩🥛🍪🍶His [Opinion] "expresses" [Diminished Capacity] "in respect to" [Authority & Authenticity]!
🍪🥛[God's Love 🕊Spirit] ☕🍩 A New Testament "to reveal" the [Promise of Everlasting Life]! Amen.
May God bless you all.
We are ready and waiting for Garabandal warning
When it’s realy the time
For this ugly issue happened
It’s the TIME KF GID WILL INTERVENE THIS WORLD
THANK YOU BROTHER
Do any other apparition speak of “a warning” or “illumination of conscience”? I mean actual approved apparitions. How do you know it will be in 2024? it could be in 2028 could be in 2033. it could be in 2059.
Let's not confuse. It's the devil 👿😈👿😈 at work. It's not an idea. As I said, it's the demon at work.
Fr. Murray
The FS blessings are OPTIONAL, right? The Vicar of Christ offers…Church may or may not accept. Context of the blessing is crucial. Realistically, the blessing IAW Catholic canon law is remote.
Reminds me of “Don’t ask don’t tell” as a non solution. 🤷♂️
There is too much effort to put words into the Pope’s mouth that he didn’t say. And too little effort to understand the things he does say. As Catholics, we are more and more being drawn into the political trap of “tradition vs liberalism”, especially by news outlets. But that is not our way. We must strive to trust, understand, and believe in our Pope, even more so when others slander him! Why do we believe the words of others over the words of our own Holy Father?! It’s a ridiculous behavior at its root and too many Catholics are taking part in it.
Well let’s think back to what he has said, he stresses climate change, demascluinize the church, the death penalty is inadmissible, blessing “couples” that love each other, traditionalists hold the faith of dead people and they are backwardists, etc…..I think people have analyzed much of what he said. To me it seems very confusing and unclear. We should all pray for him.
15:00 papa bergo answered twice or three times already, he invited to schism
She is not a bishop.
Well, Bergoglio wants the podium as False Prophet
Yeah, but let’s be honest. 2016 v current Borgorglio are not the same when it comes to policies.
Women deacons impossible?? How about blessing gay unions impossible 2 years ago
Are we becoming protestants now
We are half of gods creation.
Securus judicat orbis terrarum, thus St. Augustine of Hippo said against the Donatists. That’s why it is Catholic because it is universally judged as moral, practiced and accepted. Same-sex blessing is okay in Europe and America but not in Africa? And it was no less than pope Francis himself who granted Africa the exception? So, who are the present day donatists?
Bishops are male, so are the deacons! (Cf. 1 Tim,3,1-7; 8-10). What is pope Francis doing by inviting a female bishop (thus in direct opposition to the Word of God) and an Anglican at that? None sensical indeed! What is the end-game of this papacy after a decade of organized chaos and clear confusion?
How long Oh Lord…?
i'm at a loss
7:30 all this seems that it used to be the church of Jesus Christ
No
The Pope is protected by God. So why are yall stoking up this division and mistrust of the leadership of the church? Must Catholics accept an individual conscience leadership that leaves the pope in an optional advisory capacity. And NO.. it says clearly what blessings can NOT include.
Feel bad for these female Priest, probably gonna be hard to draw people to a Mass, especially in certain parts of the world. Don't think it'll end well for them.
There’s no such thing as a female priest because the Anglican church is heretical.
We would be playing dumb if we think gay couples aren't going to want to be married in Catholic Churches and feminist women not vying to become priests.
No.
Na. Jesus would have ordained his mother the first priestess had he seriously wanted it. He didn’t so why bother. Give the onus to the men. We women have ‘altro per la testa e le mani’ uffa. Give it a break. I’m with Jesus in His Church not in any man’s or woman’s church.
Wah wah wah
Why else would F1 choose such a person in such a role?
Siamo provati. verità o falsità e tempo di decidere……..
What the HELL is this pope doing? Does he know how to pope at all?
5:30 exactly p
Ordination of women as priests is a protestant way, and cannot be in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Jesus Christ chooses men to be His Apostles and representatives in His Holy Church. The Truth doesn't change. Jesus Christ did not authorized any one even Bergoglio to ordain women as priest in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Women can be catechists, but cannot be ordain as priests. (1 Corinthians 11:3) "But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." Those leaders in the Holy Church who allowed women to be ordained as priests are disobedient to God's Will. He is making himself above God by following his own wicked will, and his own wicked ways to make his own new false doctrine, his new false changes, and new false reforms to modernize the Holy Catholic Church. Therefore he is an Antichrist.
Stop joking about being in a "Synodal Church." If you are not in the Catholic Church, then we will stop listening to you. The joke will not stay a joke.
You can be a Roman Catholic and you can be a Retro-QAtholic, bit you can't be both.
It's established tradition. No female ordination. They are "studying" it because it's already decided 😢 It will be a "different kind" of ordination... wink wink.
I am sick of this!
God wanted that the elder son and the younger could be at the party, but the elder brother didn't want to because he was angry with his father for receiving the youn son.
Il fratello più giovane desidera rimanere nel peccato…………
Younger *repentant son. You forget that the younger son repented of his sin to his father upon returning.
I’m confused, did not the Catholic Church raise Mary Magdalene to the title of “the Apostles Apostle “in 2016. In my reading IN THE BIBLE of what CHRIST wanted was for women and men to both follow him and teach to others….how did the Catholic Church become so misogynistic after his demise??? How does a pope rule over Christ’s teaching? Food for thought, I’m a new 3 year old Catholic at the age of 70. Tread softly with your response. My question is need to know only.
The word “ Apostle “ means sent one . In all four gospels it was women that Christ sent out to tell his brothers he has been raised . Also read Romans 15 - Paul names specific names of women that the church needs to submit to .
Diane - check out Pope Francis life story of how women guided him as he talks about the profound theology of woman .
Its simple. Jesus was born a Male Man. He, Himself instituted Priesthood on the last Supper. Only the 12 Apostles were there. ALL Male. In the Rite of the Mass there's a line there: "Take this. All of you and Eat. This is MY BODY...". Again, Jesus Body is Male. In short, No Female can be Priest because Jesus is Male. In short, there can never be Women Priest. Period.
I would Google Catholic answers why women can't be ordained. They give scriptural reference
@@KnightGeneral ah, that’s not actually IN the Bible…