i got my treadmill in 2018 after spending a few months of research and self debate as to what would be best for that moment in time (1 year novice but 7 marathons ) as well as future improvements of my skills along with machine durability. I also had this weird notion that my dog might like to use it as well. I ended up getting a model with a slightly longer than usual running platform (i can fit my bike on it) along with a good powerful motor (not point straining the system) along with a top speed of 22kph and gradients of -3% to 15%. My treadmill has been put to a lot of usage each winter and has helped me to improve top end speed. I rarely use it for any more than 20k, but mostly for short interval sets such as 20 - 25 x 400. One thing I didn't pay much attention to when ordering the machine was the weight. The box it came in was huge and I thought i was being clever by sorting out the installation myself - so the delivery guys left it in the hallway - I was going to install it upstair. At the time I weighed just under 70kg and this thing was nearly 180kg. I was on my own. It took me nearly 90 mins to drag it to the top of the stairs but was unable to go any further due to the size and weight of the machine. I couldnt lift and twist it around the corner on to the landing. I ended up havibng to phone my old man to drive down and give me a hand (i was literally sat on my top stair holding on the a treadmill resting on another step further down for around an hour until help arrived. I always regretted not having a camera set up to record it at the time. A lot of people comment about not liking treadmills, however I enjoy using mine a lot. From experience, buy the best that you can afford as quality will last longer. Also try to envisage how your running will improve over time. I could barely manage more than 400m at 10kph back in 2018 but can now manage 25 X 400 at 16kph and 15 X 800 at 14.5kph (which I know is slower than a lot of people, however for a guy who will hit 47 in a few months that has only ran for a few years I am personally quite pleased and could never have managed as much without a treadmill. Chapter 2 .. Just kidding
I bought a treadmill about 4 years ago in part for preparing for a 10k event that I was challenged to run. Never up to that point had I been a runner so under took the C25k then went onto building up to 10k over 4 months before the event. I was bitten by the running bug and entered more events up to 10miles. It’s got what I need for my running with a range of speeds up to 20kph, (never tried it), and variable gradients from 0 - 15%. It’s been invaluable over the lockdown period and it’s actually helped me to lose a bit of weight during this time. As the poster above said that these units are heavy and needs 2 people to move it safely and assemble but we had a small box room downstairs to use which is just long enough but no room for error if you fall off the back 😊 but I’m comfortable with it.
Watch out for treadmills with bluetooth support. Having bluetooth on a treadmill doesn't necessarily mean that it can connect to Zwift. Most probably the vendors want to sell their own companion app for doing workouts on the treadmill but they will not broadcast the data as a bluetooth sensor for Zwift.
I think it would have helped to mention some prices? Having bought a few for my local gym the cost for a good quality one is high. I know that most viewers are triathletes but it’s perhaps worth noting that very heavy folks walking on treadmills, particularly at low speed, can wear out motors quite quickly. If it’s used a lot then remember a little basic maintenance too. Belts and decks do wear out.
I would’ve loved to offer some prices, but they vary so wildly. You can pick a treadmill up from Argos for around £500, but I’ve heard a lot of people returning them quite soon after
I haven't run on a treadmill in years as I always feel my stance is too wide and I will hit the edge. Great video though and my wife is looking for a treadmill!
I decided to go with a non-Bluetooth treadmill and a Stryd. Stryd gives Power metric, works outdoors and transmits to Zwift exactly the same as a Bluetooth treadmill except that is for incline (but power metric will take inclines into account in terms of effort/work done over the workout anyway). So could be a cheaper option than going for Bluetooth treadmill (if incline recording not essential (phone app can sort of offer that anyway) which will encourage a bit of outdoor running (Vit D & fresh air) and give wind-compensated Power as an option to develop your running efficiency (GTN has videos on how this can be useful). Also Stryd is cheap when costed per mile run if you are serious about running and when your more expensive bluetooth TM breaks down it will still work outdoors or in municipal/private gym to keep you ticking over until repairman cometh. If Zwift are ever allowed full control over TM then I will change my mind but then again what about rogue hackers? Upset somebody on Zwift? The watch your next workout suddenly go haywire whilst they chuckle from miles away.
I bought my first treadmill a Proform which came with an iFit subscription which I love, I’ve done a round round Sydney Harbour bridge, I’ve walked up and down the Grand Canyon, if I wanted I could run the Boston Marathon and the treadmill will go up and down with the changing gradients, which I love. You can also create your own route, which if google street view has the gradient information it will feed that back to the treadmill and will change the incline accordingly had it since January and I love it 🥰
I’ve tried running on Zwift with a foot pod and it was a bit hit and miss when it first came out. I’ve not been back to Zwift since but I didn’t know about the additional gadgets that are available now so I may look into it again.
In 2015 an American University was apparently testing a prototype treadmill which automatically adjusts speed. Unfortunately I've not heard anything since but something like this would be amazing
A couple of years ago I bought a 2nd hand RogerBlack treadmill to try it out. I've since added a Runn sensor to connect to zwift (ok, that doubled the price) and to be honest I don't see much need to upgrade. It only displays speed in mph, but zwift translates that for me. It has slope adjustment, but that's not something I've used yet. It's top speed of around 9mph is more than adequate for 60yo me :)
I have a life fitness commercial treadmill. As runners who are looking to invest in a treadmill I think its worth looking at refurbished commercial treadmills
I've found my Stryd pod and Zwift combo not to be as consistent as I would hope. Certainly outside Stryd has been great but its like the Stryd doesn't like talking both to my watch at Zwift at the same time and I get different numbers. Regardless my trusty treadmill of 25 years did finally give up so Bluetooth connectivity is high on my list for the next one.
I agree that data from garmin watch and Zwift do differ even though taken from the same source i.e. Stryd. But I am unsure which is at fault. Fact that Stryd is accurate outside would make me trust the Stryd garmin combo more than Zwift but whether that is fair I am unsure as it introduces an element of GPS into the mix presumably. Stryd also have few if any moving parts unlike TMs so again I would probably trust the Stryd more especially as age of equipment goes on. Zwift run times also seem a bit of lottery as they never match between garmin (hand controlled) and Zwift (app controlled) so this is likely another source of error. It makes claiming PBs meaningless on Zwift.
Those star trac units (last gen non bluetooth) are 2300aud atm. My life fitness refurbished treadmill cost 4400aud. Downside of the bluetooth treadmills are if you are doing intervals... when you step off for your break it thinks you are still running. Downside of Zwift with the footpad is when you stoop running it won't seperate the on time to the rest time. The techno gym Myrun (I had one) does connect directly to Zwift and is nice, just not as stable as the commercial grade treadmills.
Let say money is no object, what treadmill would you get? And let say prices don’t matter and at least it get the job done, again what mill should I get.
Thank you for the review 👌just wondering Would you recommend a curved tredmill for triathlon training , half & full Ironman training?! Or are they a little overboard for this ?!
Advantage and disadvantage of motorized and non motorized tredmill .. i’m getting one but not sure what to go for , in the summer there is no way to run outdoor in my country +40c at night
Do they make treadmills where you can pre-program/import a running workout for speed and incline, like you'd do with ERG mode on a bike trainer? Basically, I just want to run and not have to keep track of what to do next and keep pushing those buttons.
Spent ages talking about his sponsor Zwift, but only covers general info about treadmills. No recommendations of specific treadmills to buy, so of no use to me.
Do not buy a Fytter treadmill!!!!!! They are terrible quality, customer service is horrible and the company will not comply with the terms of its warranty. I can’t use my new treadmill because it’s scary loud. When the Fytter treadmill technician came out to my home and I demonstrated, we could barely have a conversation it was so loud. This clown wrote a report to say that the treadmill was functioning perfectly.
This whole video is just an advertisement for Zwift. I didn't learn anything useful about treadmills, except there are motorized and non-motorized, which i already knew. This video was a waste of time.
Do you use a treadmill? What tips do you have? Share them with us!
i got my treadmill in 2018 after spending a few months of research and self debate as to what would be best for that moment in time (1 year novice but 7 marathons ) as well as future improvements of my skills along with machine durability. I also had this weird notion that my dog might like to use it as well.
I ended up getting a model with a slightly longer than usual running platform (i can fit my bike on it) along with a good powerful motor (not point straining the system) along with a top speed of 22kph and gradients of -3% to 15%. My treadmill has been put to a lot of usage each winter and has helped me to improve top end speed. I rarely use it for any more than 20k, but mostly for short interval sets such as 20 - 25 x 400.
One thing I didn't pay much attention to when ordering the machine was the weight. The box it came in was huge and I thought i was being clever by sorting out the installation myself - so the delivery guys left it in the hallway - I was going to install it upstair. At the time I weighed just under 70kg and this thing was nearly 180kg. I was on my own. It took me nearly 90 mins to drag it to the top of the stairs but was unable to go any further due to the size and weight of the machine. I couldnt lift and twist it around the corner on to the landing. I ended up havibng to phone my old man to drive down and give me a hand (i was literally sat on my top stair holding on the a treadmill resting on another step further down for around an hour until help arrived. I always regretted not having a camera set up to record it at the time.
A lot of people comment about not liking treadmills, however I enjoy using mine a lot. From experience, buy the best that you can afford as quality will last longer. Also try to envisage how your running will improve over time. I could barely manage more than 400m at 10kph back in 2018 but can now manage 25 X 400 at 16kph and 15 X 800 at 14.5kph (which I know is slower than a lot of people, however for a guy who will hit 47 in a few months that has only ran for a few years I am personally quite pleased and could never have managed as much without a treadmill.
Chapter 2 ..
Just kidding
I bought a treadmill about 4 years ago in part for preparing for a 10k event that I was challenged to run. Never up to that point had I been a runner so under took the C25k then went onto building up to 10k over 4 months before the event. I was bitten by the running bug and entered more events up to 10miles. It’s got what I need for my running with a range of speeds up to 20kph, (never tried it), and variable gradients from 0 - 15%. It’s been invaluable over the lockdown period and it’s actually helped me to lose a bit of weight during this time.
As the poster above said that these units are heavy and needs 2 people to move it safely and assemble but we had a small box room downstairs to use which is just long enough but no room for error if you fall off the back 😊 but I’m comfortable with it.
I got mine in 2014, a pro-form up to 16kph but Now I will probably change for a bigger one up to 20kph
Watch out for treadmills with bluetooth support. Having bluetooth on a treadmill doesn't necessarily mean that it can connect to Zwift. Most probably the vendors want to sell their own companion app for doing workouts on the treadmill but they will not broadcast the data as a bluetooth sensor for Zwift.
This video did not help that much 😪
You can't imagine how long I've been waiting for this video!
Thanks for this video. I would probably still like a little more information about brand differentiation.
Yes! And engine power, incline grade, ...
I think it would have helped to mention some prices? Having bought a few for my local gym the cost for a good quality one is high. I know that most viewers are triathletes but it’s perhaps worth noting that very heavy folks walking on treadmills, particularly at low speed, can wear out motors quite quickly. If it’s used a lot then remember a little basic maintenance too. Belts and decks do wear out.
I would’ve loved to offer some prices, but they vary so wildly. You can pick a treadmill up from Argos for around £500, but I’ve heard a lot of people returning them quite soon after
Very true Mark. I think in most cases you get what you pay for.
I haven't run on a treadmill in years as I always feel my stance is too wide and I will hit the edge. Great video though and my wife is looking for a treadmill!
Great commercial for Zwift. As for learning which treadmill is best for me, not so much. Not at all.
I decided to go with a non-Bluetooth treadmill and a Stryd. Stryd gives Power metric, works outdoors and transmits to Zwift exactly the same as a Bluetooth treadmill except that is for incline (but power metric will take inclines into account in terms of effort/work done over the workout anyway). So could be a cheaper option than going for Bluetooth treadmill (if incline recording not essential (phone app can sort of offer that anyway) which will encourage a bit of outdoor running (Vit D & fresh air) and give wind-compensated Power as an option to develop your running efficiency (GTN has videos on how this can be useful). Also Stryd is cheap when costed per mile run if you are serious about running and when your more expensive bluetooth TM breaks down it will still work outdoors or in municipal/private gym to keep you ticking over until repairman cometh. If Zwift are ever allowed full control over TM then I will change my mind but then again what about rogue hackers? Upset somebody on Zwift? The watch your next workout suddenly go haywire whilst they chuckle from miles away.
Have a whole video on treadmills but doesn't tell what ones he is using,
I bought my first treadmill a Proform which came with an iFit subscription which I love, I’ve done a round round Sydney Harbour bridge, I’ve walked up and down the Grand Canyon, if I wanted I could run the Boston Marathon and the treadmill will go up and down with the changing gradients, which I love. You can also create your own route, which if google street view has the gradient information it will feed that back to the treadmill and will change the incline accordingly had it since January and I love it 🥰
Which one do you have?
@@Cenab4019 I have the ProForm-Power 995i Folding Treadmill
Would love to to see a video about which treadmill works best with Zwift, am looking for one but dont know which one to choose.
Agree.
same
I’ve tried running on Zwift with a foot pod and it was a bit hit and miss when it first came out. I’ve not been back to Zwift since but I didn’t know about the additional gadgets that are available now so I may look into it again.
There's a free iPhone app you can connect with zwift for your running speed which will save you about 2 grand from these
What do you think of the Technogym Myrun Treadmill? I'm thinking in buying that one.
Thank you so much my friend. I really appreciate it.
In 2015 an American University was apparently testing a prototype treadmill which automatically adjusts speed. Unfortunately I've not heard anything since but something like this would be amazing
Any news in terms of treadmill which may follow incline grade from the Zwift?
Afraid that isn’t something that exists, simply from a safety stand point. It would be so cool though
Thank you for the review
Thank you, very well explained I will take in consideration this advices when looking for a treadmill for my home. 😉👍
A couple of years ago I bought a 2nd hand RogerBlack treadmill to try it out. I've since added a Runn sensor to connect to zwift (ok, that doubled the price) and to be honest I don't see much need to upgrade. It only displays speed in mph, but zwift translates that for me. It has slope adjustment, but that's not something I've used yet. It's top speed of around 9mph is more than adequate for 60yo me :)
Seemed more like a ad for zwift than the actual treadmills. Wont be watching this channel again.
are all treadmills with Bluetooth compatible with Zwift?
Thank you for your generosity in information
Thought this was a treadmill review not a zwift sales pitch
I guess this was just an ad for Zwift, right?
I have a life fitness commercial treadmill. As runners who are looking to invest in a treadmill I think its worth looking at refurbished commercial treadmills
I've found my Stryd pod and Zwift combo not to be as consistent as I would hope. Certainly outside Stryd has been great but its like the Stryd doesn't like talking both to my watch at Zwift at the same time and I get different numbers. Regardless my trusty treadmill of 25 years did finally give up so Bluetooth connectivity is high on my list for the next one.
I agree that data from garmin watch and Zwift do differ even though taken from the same source i.e. Stryd. But I am unsure which is at fault. Fact that Stryd is accurate outside would make me trust the Stryd garmin combo more than Zwift but whether that is fair I am unsure as it introduces an element of GPS into the mix presumably. Stryd also have few if any moving parts unlike TMs so again I would probably trust the Stryd more especially as age of equipment goes on. Zwift run times also seem a bit of lottery as they never match between garmin (hand controlled) and Zwift (app controlled) so this is likely another source of error. It makes claiming PBs meaningless on Zwift.
Those star trac units (last gen non bluetooth) are 2300aud atm. My life fitness refurbished treadmill cost 4400aud. Downside of the bluetooth treadmills are if you are doing intervals... when you step off for your break it thinks you are still running. Downside of Zwift with the footpad is when you stoop running it won't seperate the on time to the rest time. The techno gym Myrun (I had one) does connect directly to Zwift and is nice, just not as stable as the commercial grade treadmills.
3 months too late. I panic bought at start of lockdown.
Let say money is no object, what treadmill would you get? And let say prices don’t matter and at least it get the job done, again what mill should I get.
DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS VIDEO HE IS JUST TRYING TO SELL YOU ZWIFT THINGS.
Thank you for the review 👌just wondering Would you recommend a curved tredmill for triathlon training , half & full Ironman training?! Or are they a little overboard for this ?!
I think swift detracts from one of the great benefits of running. But I can see some uses. Cycling zwift on the other hand makes a lot more sense.
I use zwift for intervals and sessions as I cannot make myself do them outside. Invaluable for them
Advantage and disadvantage of motorized and non motorized tredmill .. i’m getting one but not sure what to go for , in the summer there is no way to run outdoor in my country +40c at night
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Technogym treadmill pretty standard, lower price point...oh lord
John S that’s what I thought! Low price point to me is an Argos special, not a commercial treadmill!!
Try also the Skillrun which combines the pros of Skillmill and standard motorized treadmill... ;)
What is the smaller treadmill that he is running on at 7:49 in the video?
reliability, warranty and customer service are the most important factors. Treadmill features, top end speed is meaningless if it breaks in 6 months.
Would have been better to recommend some reliable/quality/value for money brands and prices - otherwise very generic and therefore not very helpful...
Which treadmill offers the best cushioning for the money? I need one that also runs evenly at the lower speeds as well.
Do they make treadmills where you can pre-program/import a running workout for speed and incline, like you'd do with ERG mode on a bike trainer? Basically, I just want to run and not have to keep track of what to do next and keep pushing those buttons.
Yes, on all but the most basic!
another video on commercial treadmill that is controlled by zwift for an ultimate runners pain cave? please make one
control speed and incline by zwift
Bluetooth treadmill is where it's at. Love mine.
Wanna see 9 min Ad for swift? Here you go...
What treadmill did you guys use when you did the zwift video against Lucy Charles Barclay
They used Technogym Myrun
I don't see why people bother, just go for a run round the block?!
I did manual on it
this is just a zwift ad
I bought the least expensive one sears had that went 12mph. I do wish it went 15mph but that was more than I thought necessary to spend.
12mph is a 5min/mile pace. Seriously, that's not fast enough for you?
@@MarkLRandall Yes. Not enough for faster intervals than 5:00 pace. I can run 2 miles sub 10:00 so yes.
I like run on the treadmill and run outside
I used the treadmill for track and field
.....what would be your thoughts on a budget treadmill for £280 that has a maximum speed of 12kph?
Bloody second
Spent ages talking about his sponsor Zwift, but only covers general info about treadmills. No recommendations of specific treadmills to buy, so of no use to me.
Can I put a treadmill on carpet?
Do not buy a Fytter treadmill!!!!!! They are terrible quality, customer service is horrible and the company will not comply with the terms of its warranty. I can’t use my new treadmill because it’s scary loud. When the Fytter treadmill technician came out to my home and I demonstrated, we could barely have a conversation it was so loud. This clown wrote a report to say that the treadmill was functioning perfectly.
Take them to court then...
Nice 10 minute zwift ad with misleading title
This whole video is just an advertisement for Zwift. I didn't learn anything useful about treadmills, except there are motorized and non-motorized, which i already knew. This video was a waste of time.
Taking too long to get to the reviews
Treadmills are absolutely ugly
They are stuck in the 90s
You wanna get out and about more.
Why don't you just go for a run around the block?
For the algorithm 🤩🥰💪🫶😁😎👌🥸🤓🥳🫡
Make running on treadmills much more fun with virtual trail running… I run all over the world and share the trails with you 🌳 ⛰️
Lol. Have we given up on the great outdoors?
Not at all. Its just that mother nature can be quite flicked at times.
The great indoors are superior