Blissey is effectively immune to stall and has good charizard, lost box, and dragapult matchups. Im not saying it is the best deck, but by your tierlist it has positive matchups in half of the tiers above it. Thats not even counting that its a colorless pokemon and can tech anything in if needed.
Played blissey for few hours, feels the deck is much stronger than t2.5, not because the dragapult matches, it feels like a skill intensive deck once you add the froslass and tm devo in the deck as you are no longer relying on your opponent to spread the damage on your Pokémon and it’s much harder to play around since one hit ko doesn’t shutdown munkis’ ability anymore, with damages from froslass and munki, along with tm devo you could get some blowout ko from no where.
It doesn’t win against anything but lugia?? Even lugia can play flutter mane to get around thorns and also almost every decks has ways to play the game against Iron thorns, so I don't see too much reason to play it.
@@youbnauta Not really. It’s a deck that has a lot of 50/50 match ups. It looses to LostTina but locks PidgZard and some other decks from setting up. The good thing is it supplements bad matchups with heavy disruption cars like lost city and hammers forcing your opponent to dig for more resources
Every new format/every new set, Lugia gets highly overrated and it inevitably crashes and burns because it lacks consistency. Carmine is not the consistency piece that drags Lugia from C tier to S tier
I have a good feeling Charizard will still dominate after Twilight masquerade releases. It can deal well into Lugia, Miraidon and Dragapult. The only thing it's bad into is Snorlax, Giratina and Gardevoir.
It gets way worse. It's bad into Bolt-Pon, it's an easy match up for froslass decks, it's an auto loss to the festival deck. It can't one hit a charmed Bolt ex until they're four prizes down, by that point they've almost certainly got a board state you're just not catching up against.
@@ItsSpecialHands ......what are you talking about. It most definitely does not get beaten by bolt ogerpon. You can trade 2 for 2, and go into radiant zard to skew the prize trade. Froslass and the festival decks are not being played at all, at least not yet. (Your ancient capsule part is a moot point because vacuum exists, and charizard can easily boss around and attack the ogerpon engine)
@@devanshkoppar7477 I have like a 60% win rate against zard with the prior Sandy Shocks bolt list, I'm sat on 100% on bolt-pon. You're able to knock a Zard every turn with it, you just aren't getting to the point of radiant Zard being a threat, which also doesn't one shot a charmed Bolt. Also never mentioned capsule. Bolt players dropped it in favour of the much more universal charm, which is also putting ogerpon at 260, putting it well out of range of a Zard 1HKO until the four prizes are taken.
Turns out dragapult was what it needed lol, it is a fun deck for sure. You are basically playing a far more aggressive dragapult deck with the tradeoff being it has an awful bolterpon matchup
@@Narixia_ Ya, just takes some luck to get setup without getting clocked first. Ideally you wind up on solo regidrago but if you only bench 1 V you risk getting blown out by prime catcher
Its about time someone realized cpao isnt as good as it seems on paper... it needs to many things to go perfectly for it to work. Simply the list or just admit its not good
@@CeliosNetwork its hard to argue its the 2nd best deck when its biggest celebration is top 8, tina was top 8 in most tournaments at the beginning of the format and never got that recognition... in a regional where it seemed everything was lined up to for cpao and nothing would be in its way, it still lost.
Another completely correct tier list. Except I think lost zone pult with radiant zam and devo is better than it's being given credit for. But my testing has been minimal in comparison I'm sure
Blissey is effectively immune to stall and has good charizard, lost box, and dragapult matchups.
Im not saying it is the best deck, but by your tierlist it has positive matchups in half of the tiers above it. Thats not even counting that its a colorless pokemon and can tech anything in if needed.
Played blissey for few hours, feels the deck is much stronger than t2.5, not because the dragapult matches, it feels like a skill intensive deck once you add the froslass and tm devo in the deck as you are no longer relying on your opponent to spread the damage on your Pokémon and it’s much harder to play around since one hit ko doesn’t shutdown munkis’ ability anymore, with damages from froslass and munki, along with tm devo you could get some blowout ko from no where.
I wouldn’t say the miraidon player got lucky when he was forced to squawk away 2 generators turn one
Is Quad Iron Thorns not a deck anymore? I know it hasn’t topped much. But I think it is a fun 2nd tier disruption deck
It doesn’t win against anything but lugia?? Even lugia can play flutter mane to get around thorns and also almost every decks has ways to play the game against Iron thorns, so I don't see too much reason to play it.
I hope its playable, would be nice to take a chill deck to casual events
@@youbnauta Not really. It’s a deck that has a lot of 50/50 match ups. It looses to LostTina but locks PidgZard and some other decks from setting up. The good thing is it supplements bad matchups with heavy disruption cars like lost city and hammers forcing your opponent to dig for more resources
@@emberpowertcg7692deck is worse than blocklax, you can’t play the game. It’s not fun
Every new format/every new set, Lugia gets highly overrated and it inevitably crashes and burns because it lacks consistency. Carmine is not the consistency piece that drags Lugia from C tier to S tier
Just got back into the game, really enjoying it again. Seems like it’s going in the right direction
Been playing Blastoise since the beginning of temporal forces deck is very underrated and im looking very forward going into TM with it
Raging Bilt is broken I just had a turn one... 350dmg knock out and game ....😮
list of the lugiaVstar deck?
Im countering Dragapult ex with my meowscarada ex deck using 2 copies of kit bug catcher and a line of 2 and 2 of rellor and rabsca
Built lugia and carmie helps lugia with its turn 1 oh wellspring ogerpon is nice 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾.Great tier list brotha
Glimmora is mad underrated rn even if canceling cologne stops the ability
The Miraidon respect! I think teching iron thorns is the sauce!
Great list. I have faith in Gouging Fire!
Is this set legal for regionals this weekend ?
No. Sets become legal 14 days after release
I have a good feeling Charizard will still dominate after Twilight masquerade releases. It can deal well into Lugia, Miraidon and Dragapult. The only thing it's bad into is Snorlax, Giratina and Gardevoir.
It gets way worse. It's bad into Bolt-Pon, it's an easy match up for froslass decks, it's an auto loss to the festival deck. It can't one hit a charmed Bolt ex until they're four prizes down, by that point they've almost certainly got a board state you're just not catching up against.
@@ItsSpecialHands ......what are you talking about. It most definitely does not get beaten by bolt ogerpon. You can trade 2 for 2, and go into radiant zard to skew the prize trade. Froslass and the festival decks are not being played at all, at least not yet. (Your ancient capsule part is a moot point because vacuum exists, and charizard can easily boss around and attack the ogerpon engine)
@@devanshkoppar7477 I have like a 60% win rate against zard with the prior Sandy Shocks bolt list, I'm sat on 100% on bolt-pon. You're able to knock a Zard every turn with it, you just aren't getting to the point of radiant Zard being a threat, which also doesn't one shot a charmed Bolt.
Also never mentioned capsule. Bolt players dropped it in favour of the much more universal charm, which is also putting ogerpon at 260, putting it well out of range of a Zard 1HKO until the four prizes are taken.
@@ItsSpecialHands Most Zard players play Maximum belt due to Dragapult.
@@oberonthemystic3752 but by his logic tools are completely moot? lol
Arceus vstar + guraitina vstar is insane!!
Dude zard pidgeot is staying tier 1 lol
>regidrago "almost" competitively viable
SO THERES FINALLY A CHANCE............
YESSIRRRRRR REGIDRAGO SUPREMACY
Turns out dragapult was what it needed lol, it is a fun deck for sure. You are basically playing a far more aggressive dragapult deck with the tradeoff being it has an awful bolterpon matchup
@@FilthyWeeb27 have u heard of our lord and savior noivern ex? they have covert flighted for our sins
@@Narixia_ Ya, just takes some luck to get setup without getting clocked first. Ideally you wind up on solo regidrago but if you only bench 1 V you risk getting blown out by prime catcher
@@FilthyWeeb27 yup yup i know the strat, haha. i wish you could fit a turo or two in the deck to move stuff off the board
Every time I watch a tier list it’s Gholdengo slander
Its about time someone realized cpao isnt as good as it seems on paper... it needs to many things to go perfectly for it to work. Simply the list or just admit its not good
In current standard it’s the second best deck. But with twilight masquerade I don’t think it quite hangs in tier 1.
@@CeliosNetwork its hard to argue its the 2nd best deck when its biggest celebration is top 8, tina was top 8 in most tournaments at the beginning of the format and never got that recognition... in a regional where it seemed everything was lined up to for cpao and nothing would be in its way, it still lost.
@@kevtheprophet643 it just got 2nd in indy
Cpao supremacy forever 😤
Another completely correct tier list. Except I think lost zone pult with radiant zam and devo is better than it's being given credit for. But my testing has been minimal in comparison I'm sure
Miraidon in 1 and greninja 3 is wild 💀💀
pRIMEIROOO, Brasill
Bora!
Snorlax is S tier