SEASON 6 PREP LIVE STREAM! Twitch: www.twitch.tv/rob2628 TH-cam: th-cam.com/channels/Sl8TBqqflby-ymdEQVfRNQ.htmllive Besides the Spiritborn I also played the mighty Barbarian! Here is what I think of the current state of the Barb. Have in mind due to the fact that it was difficult to farm iron chunks I was not able to test everything very thoroughly but I think it gives you a good overview how the Barbarian feels in Season 6. Planner Mighty Throw: d4builds.gg/builds/0883c7eb-10b4-454c-aa43-01cde38be3fb/?var=2 Timestamps 00:00 State of Barb 01:04 Weapon Throw Showcase 02:08 Planner 03:35 Current Setup & Not optimized 05:07 Torment IV Showcase 12:27 Stats 12:51 Skill Tree 14:44 Paragon 17:31 Whirlwind & Tyraels Might 18:41 Only A-Tier Build
I’m a true Barb main. And I shall remain one through the good times and rough times. Looking forward to earthquakes and flinging dirt in bosses eyes with upheavel while all the spiritborns carry me.
Agreed. I just want my Double Swing or my HOTA to be great. But no. We still get less from main stat than Sorc etc. Our key passives suck. Etc. Barbs got nerfed too much.
@@Rob2628Then Gohr's would finally made sense at all, ha! Found one 4 GA - nice joke right of now. 😅 At first when WW would scale with AS, I hope that DDs proc would scale in line, but sadly that is not the case. Maybe it will be Meta some season next year. That I also hope for Frenzy one day - at best with not 100%, but 200% AS with something crazy like Andy's GA 3x Crit AS. 😂 That will be also the case with Death Blow - one Season it is going to rock. Too bad that 1-2 seasons later EVERY Former META is totally nerfed to the ground, instead of just leave it endgame viable A-Tier at least. I mean, a nerf to 1/5 to 1/10 would be more than enough depending on former output. In a perfect world, we would have every class build to perform within 10-20% DPS or so, but I guess letting one or two builds shine above all other per season is also kind of good advertising. Would be nice if one day, they would buff all core skills the way they deserve it as well - I for one like to play Bone Spear Minion Necro with Deathless some day...
Yeah - i never understood the need for Weapon Throw - like, i'm playing barb to play a melee blademaster class basically - not ranged. If i want to play ranged, i can pick other classes for that. Weapon throw doesn't do anything for me.
Yeah, Mighty Throw was so counterintuitive on why players pick barb. We don't pick barb for ranged attacks, we pick barb because we're melee and we want to get up close and personal to defeat our enemies. I think they may have gotten this idea because of the dust devil builds. Heavy players were making those builds and the dust devils at its core do ranged damage. They basically turned concept into its own skill.
WW should always be A or S tier, it is a hallmark of the game at this point and for the devs to not understand that...I'm not paying them any more money.
I mained Barb and Necro for this expansion. Dont care how OP Spirit born is, i play the classes I enjoy not whats popular. No matter how much they keep nerfing Barbs, he will always be my main.
It makes me angry that skills like hammer of the ancients or upheavel are basically damageless, they where suposed to be your primal resource of damage, then you get "foot fetish stun skill" that scales x500 on your strenght dude, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR A FEET HITING A GROUND DO X500 MORE DAMAGE THAN A HAMMER EXPLODING YOUR HEAD
Even with Shroud of False Death we still need to put 1 point into Tough as Nails, Outburst, Irrepressible, Expose Vulnerability? They never fixed that bug from PTR?
I dunno man, weapon throw just does not interest me at all. I avoided the skill in the previous games because as a Barb, I want that in your face play style. Probably gonna shelve the Barb for a while.
If the Stompquake AFK still works, I will. Cuz I have D4 on my Xbox and PC and use my Xbox to help level my PC characters. And the Stompkaque is amazing to help self power level my PC toons. 😂
They changed the Lith rune. No longer gives offering just for standing still. Have to also be attacking. So can't just AFK and win. Have to actually attack things. Plus some other nerfs. That wasn't the only nerf! @@recksters54
@@recksters54 technically you are right. Although you are being a little nitpicky here. Think about it. You can't just stand there after summoning durial and spawn a bunch of AFK earthquakes while you wait for him to burrow up from underground. You have to wait for him to come from underground first, and then start melee attacking you before you begin generating earthquakes. That alone is still enough to dramatically reduce the power level of a build like this. So semantics aside, tomato, tomato, whatever, it's still massively nerfed from what it used to be
i know this is purely cosmetic, but has anyone else noticed all the new barb outfits (shop) are the only outfits without any visual effects>? all other classes have had some badass outfits lately and have some cool effects, the last few for barbarian has had absolutely none. i feel like barb is getting shafted cosmetically and build wise. sad.
I'm a sorc player and never play barb. Was I a little sad when I did 100k dmg while barbillion damage existed? yes, but these nerfs were uncalled for! Why nerf barb to the ground instead making it normal top-tier without being OP... I guess something had to give for spiritborn to be the new OP class...
so your telling me... all blizzard had to do was nothing to the ww build from last season for it to be fun again this season... and they fucked that up?
Im going to play spirit born because, duh, it's new. I will also be playing sorc and barb toward mid and late season. Im going to try a centipede and gorilla mix.
I wish router would start working soon, yesterday my game had an update and said it will take 6 hours for a 1.4GB update😢 I don't think I'll be able to play vessel of hatred
I'm gonna play barb. I was gonna go mighty throw regardless of nerfs/buffs. My kiddo loves your videos and copied much of your whirlwind builds for the last two seasons. We have been dual barbing for awhile. But I just told him: don't bother and go spiritborn 😂
I just don't like the spirit born class. Nerfed my main to the ground. Sorcs I like but I've always been a melee arpg player. Rogues just don't do it for me in D4 for some reason. Oh well. They un-nerf Barb and I'll consider buying the expansion
just a marketing selling point. make spiritborn the best and nerf the shit out of other builds so they make you buy the dlc. i hate company's that do this. but this is now a thing in gaming. either pay to win or make you buy the dlc. you don't have to but it won't be as enjoyable
i definitivelly recomend you playing spiritborn... man whole season is only about that character and you even recomend to play that braindead character... after this season 80% of players are going to have skill as cookie clicker players... melting everything with not advanced gear as other characters have even focused masterworking with GA bonuses... people gonna believe that everything should be easy and then when they find out its not they will just back off....
I'm hitting a wall at Pit65 ... best damage number of Ive seen is 350mil. Blizz broke the DB build from Cliptis here (th-cam.com/video/nndf34SiIh4/w-d-xo.html) because they nerfed the Starlight aspect. Am looking for any barb build that can reach Pit100.
No, dont play Barb, u will Suffer like everyone did after seeing Robs maxed out builds that hit for "TRILLIONS", no u wont, u dont get shit gifted by viewers, u dont get farmed for u by anyone, u wont have the upgrades, u wont have the drop chances rob has. DONT. PLAY. BARB: Do urself a favor, log in, pick Spiritborn / Mage and have the Fun of ur life. Then if u maxed out these 2, go and play Rogue / Druid and Necro. If these 3 are maxed out too u can go for Barb, till lvl 30, then u will notice how bad it is without having ABSOLUTLY EVERYTHING.
No you didn't play it on this new patch. Unless you have a big twitch channel. You have no subscribers on TH-cam. So I doubt you got the same testing rob and raxx got. You and I played the ptr. They changed so much from that.. so good luck
Not true. There are numerous viable builds for each class. It just depends on whether you want something “cracked” or “broken.” Viable does not mean “broken.” However, for pushing really really end game content (which most of the casual players won’t reach), you need to use the “broken” builds. Also, although there are similarities with D4 and D3, there are significant differences to clearly distinguish them.
@DanielgunKim correct, all the skills work just fine for casuals. All game devs balance around them, not the top % of players. Unfortunately, most people don't understand this. The previous season of path of exile, my brother messaged me at the last week of the season to say, "I've finished the campaign, want to play?". This is the casual player experience 😂.
SEASON 6 PREP LIVE STREAM!
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/rob2628
TH-cam: th-cam.com/channels/Sl8TBqqflby-ymdEQVfRNQ.htmllive
Besides the Spiritborn I also played the mighty Barbarian! Here is what I think of the current state of the Barb. Have in mind due to the fact that it was difficult to farm iron chunks I was not able to test everything very thoroughly but I think it gives you a good overview how the Barbarian feels in Season 6.
Planner Mighty Throw: d4builds.gg/builds/0883c7eb-10b4-454c-aa43-01cde38be3fb/?var=2
Timestamps
00:00 State of Barb
01:04 Weapon Throw Showcase
02:08 Planner
03:35 Current Setup & Not optimized
05:07 Torment IV Showcase
12:27 Stats
12:51 Skill Tree
14:44 Paragon
17:31 Whirlwind & Tyraels Might
18:41 Only A-Tier Build
I’m a true Barb main. And I shall remain one through the good times and rough times. Looking forward to earthquakes and flinging dirt in bosses eyes with upheavel while all the spiritborns carry me.
🤜🤛 Barb till the end of
Carry who?, a true barb is never carried
I'll ride and die as a barbarian till the end 💪
Nobody wants mighty throw! We want the other builds to get back to normal. This is such bullshit.
Yes. I just want to jump into a group of enemies and smash my hammer. Everything has to die, done = fun..
Agreed. I just want my Double Swing or my HOTA to be great. But no. We still get less from main stat than Sorc etc. Our key passives suck. Etc. Barbs got nerfed too much.
Yep I hope we get a realm Spin2Win Build again at some point where WHIRLWIND itself deals the main damage!
@@Rob2628Then Gohr's would finally made sense at all, ha! Found one 4 GA - nice joke right of now. 😅
At first when WW would scale with AS, I hope that DDs proc would scale in line, but sadly that is not the case.
Maybe it will be Meta some season next year. That I also hope for Frenzy one day - at best with not 100%, but 200% AS with something crazy like Andy's GA 3x Crit AS. 😂
That will be also the case with Death Blow - one Season it is going to rock.
Too bad that 1-2 seasons later EVERY Former META is totally nerfed to the ground, instead of just leave it endgame viable A-Tier at least. I mean, a nerf to 1/5 to 1/10 would be more than enough depending on former output.
In a perfect world, we would have every class build to perform within 10-20% DPS or so, but I guess letting one or two builds shine above all other per season is also kind of good advertising.
Would be nice if one day, they would buff all core skills the way they deserve it as well - I for one like to play Bone Spear Minion Necro with Deathless some day...
Yeah - i never understood the need for Weapon Throw - like, i'm playing barb to play a melee blademaster class basically - not ranged. If i want to play ranged, i can pick other classes for that. Weapon throw doesn't do anything for me.
make hota great again
Hope so!
@@Rob2628Start a petition for Barb
@@Rob2628Start a Petition for Barb
@@Rob2628 Start a petition for barb
@@Rob2628 Barb a petition for a start
Mighty throw = Mage bullshit. I don't play barb to be a ranged spell caster.
I completely agree
Yeah, Mighty Throw was so counterintuitive on why players pick barb. We don't pick barb for ranged attacks, we pick barb because we're melee and we want to get up close and personal to defeat our enemies. I think they may have gotten this idea because of the dust devil builds. Heavy players were making those builds and the dust devils at its core do ranged damage. They basically turned concept into its own skill.
WW should always be A or S tier, it is a hallmark of the game at this point and for the devs to not understand that...I'm not paying them any more money.
I agree this 💩 looks soooo boring
Making direct Whirlwind viable again would be an easy W indeed!
Agreed. Ww is hallmark. They need to jazz up the visuals too on all other classes.
Everyone gonna play Spiritborn so Rob created this video for himself
I wont
Nah, I’m a barb main. Will do barb and sorc before spiritborn. Also I play hardcore only.
Nah bro, barb or go home gang here
I gonna play barb first as always
Rogue then Barb like always, Spiritborn later.
Let me guess…the best build will run 3 shouts
Seeing how they buffed bold chieftain yes
yup
I mained Barb and Necro for this expansion. Dont care how OP Spirit born is, i play the classes I enjoy not whats popular. No matter how much they keep nerfing Barbs, he will always be my main.
I don't know any barb players who don't love whirlwind. Why can't they buff that
Amen 🤞
As a barb main, I don't play WW barb because it looks too goofy for me. I'm more of a thorns build.
I play a lot of Barb and would never consider touching a goofy AFK build like Whirlwind
I hate WW. HOTA (or upheaval) is the way
@@theloller5453 wow your wrong
I just basically started this build, continues to show ubers and uniques. 😂
Yes I farmed those Ubers on my Spiritborn. It only costs 2 Sparks to craft them now!
It makes me angry that skills like hammer of the ancients or upheavel are basically damageless, they where suposed to be your primal resource of damage, then you get "foot fetish stun skill" that scales x500 on your strenght dude, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR A FEET HITING A GROUND DO X500 MORE DAMAGE THAN A HAMMER EXPLODING YOUR HEAD
The qtip barb!!!
Spiritborn..then Rogue then Druid...my plans for s6. sorry barb maybe s8😂😂
Rob youre a machine..youre hilding me over till monday!
Nerfing bold Cheiftan is so fn lazy. Devs needs a new barb team. This one sucks
They loveeeee to nerf melee into the ground. Rogue is a showcase of this. Melee was nerfed into unplayable but ranged was massively buffed.
Even with Shroud of False Death we still need to put 1 point into Tough as Nails, Outburst, Irrepressible, Expose Vulnerability? They never fixed that bug from PTR?
I was going to make a barb for the first time ever in d4, but it seem I'll be making my Necro again this season
The other dude put it best for the best Barb build…. Just logout and make a Spiritborn
Valid strategy for Season 6 :( I will play Barb after Spritborn!
Hey Rob, do you think is any way to make Throw Barb using dual wield? Maybe with The Thrid Blade and 1h Hammer?
Now remember kids, Rob spending 10h for a build is equivalent of us spending 200h.
Rob 10 hours is equivalent to 10 hours for me.
Weakling, 10 hrs for rob are 10hrs for you. He is just efficient.
And thats not *hard* what rob does it's just mentally draining.
I hope some of the main guys start making builds that are not spirit born lol
I think bleed barb is being slept on, with tue cut to the bone on weapons you can get yo to 30 ranks or 22 even with little effort
Facts. Having lots of fun with it
Nerfing chieftain aspect was so stupid, they only want everyone to play spirit thing. BIG L
Barb is dead, we still thank you for the effort to give us the illusion that this class still exists in the game
What graphic should we use for the Throwing Barb? Axe, Knife, Thor Hammer, I know lets use a Q-tip.
Mace Q-Tip ftw!
They single handedly stopped me from buying the expansion.
Smart Blizz, real smart.
The fact Upheaval has never been meta pisses me off... It's the #1 build I want to play (Rogue main here).
Barb whirwinld is dead for endagme also ?
Yes :( If you want a Spin2Win playstyle try Rogue. My chest hurts as I'm typing this...
I dunno man, weapon throw just does not interest me at all. I avoided the skill in the previous games because as a Barb, I want that in your face play style. Probably gonna shelve the Barb for a while.
is WW dust devil still the best?
Is bash will be strong as in season 5?
Sadly no - The Bash Temper got nerfed heavily. Damage /5
@@Rob2628 😩But it was already nerfed in Season 5. Or now it is even more nerfed?🤯 Schade…
4:40 He likely doesn't Tibalt's Will. Should be Banished Lords.
that bold chieftain nerf was unnecessary… barb weak AF already… dont take away at least his ability to be a scuffed zdps barb support ROFL.
Yep I think Barb is just collateral from the Roar Druid Bold's Chieftain nerf
Barb nation heading to Spirit Society!!
If the Stompquake AFK still works, I will. Cuz I have D4 on my Xbox and PC and use my Xbox to help level my PC characters. And the Stompkaque is amazing to help self power level my PC toons. 😂
Nerfed
How was it nerfed?
They changed the Lith rune. No longer gives offering just for standing still. Have to also be attacking. So can't just AFK and win. Have to actually attack things. Plus some other nerfs. That wasn't the only nerf! @@recksters54
While fighting not while attacking. Pretty sure it will trigger if attacked.
@@recksters54 technically you are right. Although you are being a little nitpicky here. Think about it. You can't just stand there after summoning durial and spawn a bunch of AFK earthquakes while you wait for him to burrow up from underground. You have to wait for him to come from underground first, and then start melee attacking you before you begin generating earthquakes. That alone is still enough to dramatically reduce the power level of a build like this. So semantics aside, tomato, tomato, whatever, it's still massively nerfed from what it used to be
i know this is purely cosmetic, but has anyone else noticed all the new barb outfits (shop) are the only outfits without any visual effects>? all other classes have had some badass outfits lately and have some cool effects, the last few for barbarian has had absolutely none. i feel like barb is getting shafted cosmetically and build wise. sad.
What happened to the speed leap build
I'm a sorc player and never play barb. Was I a little sad when I did 100k dmg while barbillion damage existed? yes, but these nerfs were uncalled for!
Why nerf barb to the ground instead making it normal top-tier without being OP... I guess something had to give for spiritborn to be the new OP class...
Not hating, but you sound tired. Rest up my man. We need you at full health for launch! ❤
so your telling me... all blizzard had to do was nothing to the ww build from last season for it to be fun again this season... and they fucked that up?
Barbillion and Druid - Best heroes
Im going to play spirit born because, duh, it's new. I will also be playing sorc and barb toward mid and late season. Im going to try a centipede and gorilla mix.
Hello, can you tell how exactly Needleflare interacts with Barbed carapace after fix/nerf?
theres little to no content on any class besides spiritborn please Rob for the love of all things Diablo play literally any other class
of course it's worth playing for a barbarian, I'll try for a thorn on hardcore. it seems that the build holds the damage.
Looking at whirlwind makes me sad... look how they massacred my boy 😭
SPIRITPORN! barbornagain
Ww barb nation. Spin 2 win
Why we should play barb? We got barb in green now!
I started a spirit born class. Didn't like it at all. Even though it's
s tier. Started hota barb build haven't looked back. 🤘
They murdered the Starlight aspect tech I wanted to try on Upheaval. So I won’t play Barb this season
I wish router would start working soon, yesterday my game had an update and said it will take 6 hours for a 1.4GB update😢 I don't think I'll be able to play vessel of hatred
Hwo is Necro?❤❤
very very strong! Tier List coming tomorrow
@@Rob2628 🤣 ich probiers morgen unter der tier list nochmal wenn ich schnell genug bin😂
RIP barb. Is bash still viable?
Bro, I feel sad listening to you. Shall we start a petition to free Barb from exile?
I'm gonna play barb. I was gonna go mighty throw regardless of nerfs/buffs.
My kiddo loves your videos and copied much of your whirlwind builds for the last two seasons.
We have been dual barbing for awhile.
But I just told him: don't bother and go spiritborn 😂
i mean, you can do all the stuff also with a barb on torment iv:)
@@Rob2628 haha I'll let him decide for himself! He's been very loyal to spin2win so far :)
Upheavel is viable guys ??
Is ps5 for the dlc can start downloading in the states
No
Lets hope Rogue WW is still good xD So we can skip Barb next season xD
Can diablo 4 in the states play the dlc in the USA to start to download the game
Why are there no companions in these vids?
What about druid?
I’ll still level a sorc first easy to make a blizzard build with horrible gear to end game then I’ll try spiritborn
I will only play barb till I get paladin or crusader.
I just don't like the spirit born class. Nerfed my main to the ground. Sorcs I like but I've always been a melee arpg player. Rogues just don't do it for me in D4 for some reason.
Oh well. They un-nerf Barb and I'll consider buying the expansion
Even u will play spirit born
Only 800 armour??
No core Hota, no core WW = no Diablo.
Rend flay mighty throw . 🏆
Am I crazy or when he spammed on we it definitely was faster tm.
They nerfed us so fukin hard man i want my bleed rend/flay build back i wanna use the new uber pole with my bleed but barb is trash atm
Gibt es das ganze auch in Deutsch.????
I am about to quit barb, the champ hás 4 weapons and need all ubers to work properly
lets be honest its trash tier :D
just a marketing selling point. make spiritborn the best and nerf the shit out of other builds so they make you buy the dlc. i hate company's that do this. but this is now a thing in gaming. either pay to win or make you buy the dlc. you don't have to but it won't be as enjoyable
No, i've seen Raxx's tierlist
raxx sucks these days
true lol he is kinda fallen off @StillWeRide
i definitivelly recomend you playing spiritborn... man whole season is only about that character and you even recomend to play that braindead character... after this season 80% of players are going to have skill as cookie clicker players... melting everything with not advanced gear as other characters have even focused masterworking with GA bonuses... people gonna believe that everything should be easy and then when they find out its not they will just back off....
No, do not play Barb, DO NOT PLAY BARB
I just want to play BASH! :( Blizo rlly hates barb players
Please, barb has been so strong the last couple seasons. It needed to be brought down a little.
@@elibnem4126that was 3 season ago 🤡🤡
@@elibnem4126 "a little" sure i'm with you on that one to be more in line with the rest, but blizz is recreating hiroshima.
Barbarian is just garbage this season like most. I played around with so many builds and the only viable one is throw.
I dont like barbarian but in some way i feel sorry for u man. They destroyed your character.
I'm hitting a wall at Pit65 ... best damage number of Ive seen is 350mil. Blizz broke the DB build from Cliptis here (th-cam.com/video/nndf34SiIh4/w-d-xo.html) because they nerfed the Starlight aspect. Am looking for any barb build that can reach Pit100.
stat squish is this sadly just put diablo 3 abbreviated numbers 30,000B dmg
Answer: no
Was geht mit doppelschwung staubteufel
No, dont play Barb, u will Suffer like everyone did after seeing Robs maxed out builds that hit for "TRILLIONS", no u wont, u dont get shit gifted by viewers, u dont get farmed for u by anyone, u wont have the upgrades, u wont have the drop chances rob has.
DONT. PLAY. BARB:
Do urself a favor, log in, pick Spiritborn / Mage and have the Fun of ur life.
Then if u maxed out these 2, go and play Rogue / Druid and Necro.
If these 3 are maxed out too u can go for Barb, till lvl 30, then u will notice how bad it is without having ABSOLUTLY EVERYTHING.
git gud
TLDW: barb is shit (yet again), go play jungle monk
i played barb in early testing.. its more OP than ever.. upheavel is amazing
No you didn't play it on this new patch. Unless you have a big twitch channel. You have no subscribers on TH-cam. So I doubt you got the same testing rob and raxx got. You and I played the ptr. They changed so much from that.. so good luck
T4 is for Streamers, all other people stay on t3
Sad barb
And how is that ok for streamers to have a advantage then reg players?
Game with "millions of builds and combinations" 1-2 viable build per class. This game is diablo 3.
yep
Not true. There are numerous viable builds for each class. It just depends on whether you want something “cracked” or “broken.” Viable does not mean “broken.” However, for pushing really really end game content (which most of the casual players won’t reach), you need to use the “broken” builds. Also, although there are similarities with D4 and D3, there are significant differences to clearly distinguish them.
@DanielgunKim correct, all the skills work just fine for casuals. All game devs balance around them, not the top % of players. Unfortunately, most people don't understand this.
The previous season of path of exile, my brother messaged me at the last week of the season to say, "I've finished the campaign, want to play?". This is the casual player experience 😂.
Ugh
first
No
No