no way ! Listen Cyprien Katsaris playing this piece. Pletnev is lacking control and elegance and his technique is not enough to play the radiant center section in tempo, he is slowing down when it gets really tricky killing the wonderful rythm of the piece. Also he is killing the singing tone in the slow theme, this is inadmissible. If i was in the audience i swear i would have walked out of the room while he was playing because of how he refused to play a singing tone in the theme.
seriously you need to see a doctor for your ears. Also i am not sure you even know the markings of the piece. I don think you are able to recognise the important melodic fragments ( lets not even talk about tone or any musical elements) or the style of the piece. And the recording you keep suggesting s a car crash. seriously for the sake of the pianist playing there stop promoting it
so great memories i have with this piece. thank u, tchaikovsky, for creating it :D and thank u pletnev for this wonderful rendition :) pure magic is this music.
Thank you UG Townsend for this treasure played so perfectly by Mikhail Pletnev. Always marvellous to watch those fingers flying up and down the key board controlled by the mind of a GENIUS!
i have to disagree. My whole body ached when he played the theme without a proper singing tone at the end. He disintegrated the piece into a melt and his middle section is too heavy on the left hand and lacks dancing agility in the right. He made pauses in wrong places of the piece. Overall i would say he lacked elegance and should have held back to keep a mystery in the piece. Voted down. Listen to Cyprien Katsaris for a proper rythmic middle section without elephant steps in the left hand covering everything and no slow down when it gets too difficult technically.
Are you deaf? The recording you suggest is like a car crash. what singing tone there is no melodic line in the celebratory section as it is rushed. It is like a meltdown at piano. when any stylistic elements the rhythm the dynamics all is in chaos. I mean seriously. the middle section is a mess in your suggestion a mess!!!! If you are deaf i apologise you could have not known.
Though I have always loved all Tchaikovsky's work since I was a child, I was never interested in his piano music, excerpt for some pieces, but he goes on showing the great master he was in all sense.
@Chisy1234 Very, Chisy. The trick here is to get the big picture...and convey it to the audience while maintaining perfect technique (which you need a LOT of here) and the quality of sound..This is Tchaikovsky!!! Sound is delicate...and fragile at times...you need....something god-given to play tchaikovsky well...It was very difficult, and I was not ready for it when I learned it....but you may be :) I don't know...make sure it's not boring though!
@@griegoriolopezcalvo574 Да, исполнение Султанова тоже замечательное, особенно в условной первой части произведения, до стадии "разработки" темы (примерно первые три минуты...) - в этой части исполнение Султанова может конкурировать с Плетневым или даже опережать, но... дальше Алексей не избежал болезни многих исполнителей, связанной с избыточными, так сказать, ударами по клавишам. Потому что мало кто умеет так, как Плетнев - разговаривать с инструментом; Михаил вообще не бьет по клавишам - даже в случае громких звуков это другое... и там тоже слышна сочность гармонии. Поэтому все переплетается и есть целостность. Я не слышал Горовица, но та целостность, о которой здесь речь - не нашел ее ни у кого другого, кроме Плетнева...
@@MrGeorgeArkton Вот исполнение Горовица. Качество записи очень даже неплохое для 1942 года th-cam.com/video/qjJGaRtY0C0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=pianopera
I thought precisely the same. The cadenza and the following cannot be rushed through like that. Almost brutal. This ought to be a most lyrical and poetic work. More tender.
sorry but this is not Bach nor Mozzart nor Beethoven. this is russian composition it has totally different free rhythm in the serving of melody pace and emotions but not metric.
Tchaikovsky and Pletnev are an unbeatable combination.
fail, completely disagree see my above comments.
tschaikowsky neither knowed nor needed this pianist.
This is one of the best interpretations ever heard! Great musician…
Pletnev is the best interpreter of Tchaikovsky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no way ! Listen Cyprien Katsaris playing this piece. Pletnev is lacking control and elegance and his technique is not enough to play the radiant center section in tempo, he is slowing down when it gets really tricky killing the wonderful rythm of the piece. Also he is killing the singing tone in the slow theme, this is inadmissible. If i was in the audience i swear i would have walked out of the room while he was playing because of how he refused to play a singing tone in the theme.
seriously you need to see a doctor for your ears. Also i am not sure you even know the markings of the piece. I don think you are able to recognise the important melodic fragments ( lets not even talk about tone or any musical elements) or the style of the piece. And the recording you keep suggesting s a car crash. seriously for the sake of the pianist playing there stop promoting it
@@goognamgoognw6637 Man yes go to see a doctor. Katsarys never understood music. especially this one.
@@goognamgoognw6637 чел, лучшее исполнение думки это исполнение Плетнева, Султанова и Березовского!
@@КаринаТер-щ5э По моему мнению, Горовиц ее лучше всего исполнил в 1942 году. Плетнев тоже очень хорошо исполнил, но Горовиц все-таки лучше
As a simple listener Pletnev manages to move a lot of strings deeply hidden in my soul. Is it magic? I don't know but I'll always love his music.
Nobody plays Russian music better than Mister Pletnev . It is obvious for me. Thank you, Maestro.
Michael Bischofberger?
It’s also obvious for me too! 🎉
This remains my favorite version of dumka :)
Проникновенно 😍одно из лучших исполнений
so great memories i have with this piece. thank u, tchaikovsky, for creating it :D and thank u pletnev for this wonderful rendition :) pure magic is this music.
this is so phenomenal, wonderful, incomparable... magical moment of pure beauty... a miracle.
Thank you UG Townsend for this treasure played so perfectly by Mikhail Pletnev. Always marvellous to watch those fingers flying up and down the key board controlled by the mind of a GENIUS!
Grandissimo artista e pianista . Grazie !
Прекрасно!!!Браво!!!
Перевод на русский от Ютуба просто👍
Pletnev & Tchaikovsky. The Best.
This is extraordinary - gorgeous. What a pianist.
How do I put even a word to this piece and this performance? Simply God.
You are so right! What a loss to all of us who love music. At least he still conducts! God bless him! His artistic input is priceless!
Your friend Irina was wrong ,having said that he is dry. Nothing else!!!
th-cam.com/video/BqaFKurgTG4/w-d-xo.html
Splendid, so touching...
Именно так надо исполнять Думку. Очень точно всё!
Это не просто точно, это Думка, написанная на наших глазах
Блестяще...
a gorgeous piece and a great pianist
great music, great pianist, deep feelings
wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bravooo
Chills... chills from the first key.
Beautiful.
Thank you
It's the great piece and the BEST unterpretation ever.
i have to disagree. My whole body ached when he played the theme without a proper singing tone at the end. He disintegrated the piece into a melt and his middle section is too heavy on the left hand and lacks dancing agility in the right. He made pauses in wrong places of the piece. Overall i would say he lacked elegance and should have held back to keep a mystery in the piece. Voted down. Listen to Cyprien Katsaris for a proper rythmic middle section without elephant steps in the left hand covering everything and no slow down when it gets too difficult technically.
Are you deaf?
The recording you suggest is like a car crash. what singing tone there is no melodic line in the celebratory section as it is rushed. It is like a meltdown at piano. when any stylistic elements the rhythm the dynamics all is in chaos. I mean seriously. the middle section is a mess in your suggestion a mess!!!!
If you are deaf i apologise you could have not known.
that's art and there's no absolute wrong or right...
Agreed! Although I must add, I doubt that a pianist of Pletnev would slow down due to technical difficulty, seeing as he has played much harder stuff.
Insanely well executed.
Плетнев- великий !
Ineffably beautiful!
Бриллиант !👏👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Un dio!
The BEST!
AROUND
Ain't nobody gonna bring me down
Pletnev is like a high priest of music.
super great~~~
По-русски с размахом и просто и глубоко, спасибо, маэстро !
Очень непросто, глубоко и в то же время аскетично
Very beautiful piece, and very beautifully played. Not a good piece to be listening to while studying, because it just sucks your attention away.
Genius!
4:39: michail, dai, non fare così che mi viene da piangere... 😥😢😭
Though I have always loved all Tchaikovsky's work since I was a child, I was never interested in his piano music, excerpt for some pieces, but he goes on showing the great master he was in all sense.
Profondità
Te amo ❤️
5:46
In the hands of Pletnev, a vision of a transcendental Russian village, for sure...
@Chisy1234 Very, Chisy. The trick here is to get the big picture...and convey it to the audience while maintaining perfect technique (which you need a LOT of here) and the quality of sound..This is Tchaikovsky!!! Sound is delicate...and fragile at times...you need....something god-given to play tchaikovsky well...It was very difficult, and I was not ready for it when I learned it....but you may be :) I don't know...make sure it's not boring though!
so true to maintain is the key ...
magique
Enjoyed!
this is agogik))
0:19
Русская душа, это гениально, что же Вы так волнуете душу, колокольчики?
Sjajno
Лучшая современная интерпретация Думки, но я предпочитаю Горовица, он один из величайших пианистов старой школы, а его Думка - лучшая на пластинках.
Послушайте в исполнении Алексея Султанова. Пианист, опередивший своё время
@@griegoriolopezcalvo574 Да, исполнение Султанова тоже замечательное, особенно в условной первой части произведения, до стадии "разработки" темы (примерно первые три минуты...) - в этой части исполнение Султанова может конкурировать с Плетневым или даже опережать, но... дальше Алексей не избежал болезни многих исполнителей, связанной с избыточными, так сказать, ударами по клавишам. Потому что мало кто умеет так, как Плетнев - разговаривать с инструментом; Михаил вообще не бьет по клавишам - даже в случае громких звуков это другое... и там тоже слышна сочность гармонии. Поэтому все переплетается и есть целостность. Я не слышал Горовица, но та целостность, о которой здесь речь - не нашел ее ни у кого другого, кроме Плетнева...
@@MrGeorgeArkton Вот исполнение Горовица. Качество записи очень даже неплохое для 1942 года
th-cam.com/video/qjJGaRtY0C0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=pianopera
@@MrGeorgeArktonАлексей никогда не бил по клавишам
Best
0:19: welcome in Russia, ladies and gentlemen's... welcome in Russia.
ドゥムカはうちの先生の十八番だからよくよく知ってます。よーく知ってます。😊
アシュケナージよりこの曲を理解してる。亡命した奴に負けないでね！
僕は亡命した奴らが大嫌いでね！（笑）
お腹痛い！
@bobinobaker Ich würde einfach nicht alles glauben was in den Nachrichten kommt!
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Beethoven: Yes I am one of them who pressed dislike.
Now they’re 34
Can someone please tell me what instrument this is? I can‘t read it on the piano. Is it Kawai?
Steinway & Sons
Уберите рекламу!!! Совесть имейте уже в конце концов!!!!!!!
He likes the pedalo very much. But it's okay.
He actually doesn't. Here he takes it much less, than it's common
@bobinobaker So far I know, nothing proves he's guilty. But if he is, that would be a very bad thing.
He is, and it doesn't matter as long as you don't bring your child to his class
А мне больше Султанов нравится!!!! Целостно, ощущение одного яркого, выразительного мазка, картины, образа!!!
something going on with the rhythm,(((((((((((
Agreed see my comments above and check Cyprien Katsaris playing this piece ;)
Это просто невозможно слушать, после Алексея Султанова.
И не слушайте и не смотрите
@@natalikosheleva4387 ок
@@viktorshcherbakov8808 Ну уж тогда и не пишите, просто слушайте то, что нравится и всё
@@natalikosheleva4387 это секция для комментариев, не заметили? Не надо давать советов, когда Вас не спрашивают.
@@viktorshcherbakov8808 таким умным разве можно что-то советовать? 😄
Sorry, do you now what about this composition is? It is a long story and therefor it shouldn't like Cherny' etude.
I thought precisely the same. The cadenza and the following cannot be rushed through like that. Almost brutal. This ought to be a most lyrical and poetic work. More tender.
@@WennAdefor Pletnev it's more about drama than lyricism, and cadenza sounds pretty convincing, for my ears
The rhythm is not stable, nothing wrong with that except it can’t be too out of rhythm
Honestly, not that good. The rhythm is wayward and the control is lacking.
sorry but this is not Bach nor Mozzart nor Beethoven. this is russian composition it has totally different free rhythm in the serving of melody pace and emotions but not metric.
Agreed, see my comment two up.
Прекрасно!!!Браво!!!