So I guess it's finally time to review Terminator Dark Fate. Is it the worst of the series, or a bold new beginning for a tired franchise? Let's find out.
I have a script im working on. Its about twin brothers at the start of Americas involvement in WW2. They both go to join the Army but one has epilepsy and gets left behind. After all the brave men have left for war, he is left behind with mostly women, children, the elderly. At this point when most the capable men are gone....women, including his brothers Wife, begin to dissapear.... Id love to send you the rough draft/ outline!
@Crows Wit Gaming that is a comically Terrible movie that looks awful, has hard cuts and a narrative that is nearly impossible to follow. You don't get enough backstory to understand or to bother caring what the character motivations are. The acting is hollow, like the people on screen couldn't tell.if their checks were still good, the cinematography is horrid and there is hardly ever two different people talking in one shot, it cuts every couple seconds and the laser shooty fights are almost funny if they weren't supposed to be serious. I saw the trailers and thought it looked like it had potential. I wanted, badly, to like it, but I can't. It so boring, has such abrupt transitions, is so hard to enjoy it took me three times to get through it and I have only vague memories of it. Please tell me this was an ironic endorsement and that you only wanted it shredded to tatters even worse than the staff responsible for the blight that is Jupitor Ascending left on our doorstep like a flaming bag.
Yeah. I was thinking this while watching this poor movie. I thought back in the day, people created movies with passion. They were exploring new things and ideas. Today, they just copy and paste everything. No passion. Plus they are pushing this horrible gender agenda. Yuck.
@@Jesus_Christ_Is_Lord77 The Special Effects in this film look like they have been done by a 5 year old. Very poorly done does not even look realistic or pleasing to the eye. Whoever gave this film a go ahead should have been sacked. Shows a lack of hard work ever went into this film, hardly any...
They should have let it end with T2. On the other hand, they had interesting comics in the 80s and 90s, that would have been better than what they made, like terminator vs robocop by frank Miller.
The worst part was when Sarah downplayed her own role to referring to herself as just a womb to some man who saves humanity. They seem to forget what Kyle said in terminator: it was a chance to meet the legend, Sarah Connor. Taught her son to fight, organize. To prepare him when he was just a kid. When you went in hiding before the war. James Cameron must be suffering from alzeimers since he allowed this continuity error on screen. Sarah wasn't just some incubator of a messiah. She was the one that made John into a warrior with her guidance.
Well they could care less about continuity at this point,, I don't think the elites write for this movie game anymore,, what you've got is braindead uni drama grads writing it.
After reading the plot synopsis and hearing they killed John Connor [who was an interesting character in T2 and T3 as a kid and adult carrying a heavy burden on his shoulders], they could have used John as a mentor to the younger, genderbent John Conner because he would be able to help her process the emotions and mental stuff of being a savior for humanity while he, Sarah, and an Arnie Terminator protected from alternate timeline Skynet in one last hurrah before letting the franchise go to rest. That would have made for a pretty compelling story and character interaction if it had been done right. But no, we can't have anything nuanced and interesting in "current year." Oh well. Least we got T1 and T2 to enjoy with Sarah and John Connor dealing with killer robots from the future and grappling with fate itself to save humanity without anyone ever knowing it.
The truth doesn't fit their feminist agenda. Where a mother is shunned and frowned upon but an androgynous tough woman that acts like a man and a victim are idolized. It's all part of the narrative to undermine the family unit and push this androgyny/feminist agenda. Because people who have no family and see themselves as victims of toxic men are easier to control and brain wash. Divide and conquer.
The funny part is that Grace, the hybrid protector from the future pulled her power source out which ironically is still the location of the womb. So in the end, the womb still saves the day?
When they were marketing this the director smugly announced that this movie would “terrify” men instantly alienating a large portion of their audience. Genius.
He knew that he made a pile of garbage, that's why he said it. Bait the trolls, then you can deflect from the quality of the film by pointing out the mean things some say. I don't think it helped his career much, but they all still use the strat and hope it works.
When Schwarzenegger said “I’ll be back” I felt excited and looked forward to him coming back. When Linda Hamilton said “I’ll be back”, I wanted to reply by saying “take your time” or “it’s okay I got this, you don’t need to”
For me, I thought Terminator 3 was good AND the end of the series! It showed back then, that they could only relatively copy T2 rather than try to be original!
I like it to but its just alot of terminator 2 again getting leather clothes chase with a small vehicle vs big vehicle fight in a research center it looks the same only t2 is better
Machine versus Human war, Boogaloo America wasteland era. The humans in 2040 were led by that one general that said the famous " no fate speech" like the one in 2029 and then after that sky net was defeated. but after the 2040 no fate speech Legion Network was defeated, by this girl all grown up,
T3 wasn't a bad movie. It made sense most of all and we got to see a almost human T-800. For me works fine as the end of the series, with bombs dropping all over the place.
The most ridiculous part of this movies is how Dani became the leader of the resistance in the future not because she shows latent talent in the present or has good leadership skills. But because she told a really motivating speech to some scavengers.
God I loved Vasquez in Aliens: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "No, have you?" And her delivery was just right on the money. A great character and a great performance from Jenette Goldstein.
Ahh when Hollywood let sassy female actors be themselves.....see we don't need said female actors (like that one who played She Hulk) to tell us she's cool or better than Hudson.....the banter between those two was awsome in Aliens. It's called chemistry and it was totally organic......also the other space marines were pretty good too even the ones who had small but impactful roles that we remember 37 years on. Oh and for the record....I"m a big Mackenzie Davis fan. Loved her in Halt and Catch Fire which is still a sleeper for AMC that I watched from beginning to end.
The funny thing to me is that it's actually an insult to women that producers feel the need to *FORCE* a "strong female" presence when it should just come naturally depending on the film. The "strong female lead" has been done really well since the beginning of time... in the same franchise no less, and some of the best characters of all time are female. These clowns just don't get it.
Edit: Just met Robert Patrick at Indiana Comic Con, showed him this comment, and he confirmed everything, adding he caught up to the dirt bike on the first take and they subsequently had to increase its speed from 13 to 15 mph. He appreciated the comments and replies and autographed my T-1000 photo with “Call to John.” I am giddy. Apparently, Robert Patrick independently trained for his role as the T-1000 to not show fatigue while running. I read somewhere he did extensive cardio on his own to build up his stamina so his character's chase scenes would look as effortless as possible. I often fall victim to looking upon the past with rose-tinted glasses, but goddammit, who does that for a role anymore?
@Guilty @@ididntaskverified3663 Christian Bale and Joaquin Phoenix were dangerously close to dying when they lost weight for their roles in The Machinist and The Joker
Henry cavill did some pretty dang hard training too for his role as Superman. Got jacked quick, definitely won’t feel good in 20 years or so though Edit: for anyone wondering, no, obviously getting jacked (even quickly) isn’t by itself going to be harmful, but the routines actors like Henry Cavill do to get properly pumped beyond normality for on screen appearances is definitely more hardcore. Not as hardcore as what bodybuilders do, but more involved than what normal guys hitting the gym are doing. Neither is this as intense as what guys like Joaquin phoenix do to get sickly and thin, but it’s something.
I STILL get chills during T2, when Sarah gets her first glimpse of what she thinks is the original terminator. Her response is so perfectly done- all that terror, frustration, and exhaustion in one sound and 2 seconds of action.
I rewatched it not long ago and afterwards I was angry - because it hit me just how the "get down!" scene was supposed to be a shocking plot twist, but it had been revealed well in advance that Arnold was the "good" Terminator this time.
I'd truly be unable to imagine a terminator more dangerous than T1000. He was a legitimately scary, and had an amazing way about with the way he interacts with people not on his kill list. He shown charisma in talking to bystanders, but the second he spots the target, he just tears after them.
But I love how even when he’s showing that charisma, something still seems a little bit off but you can’t quite put your finger it. Just an incredible performance.
He was the best villain but less leathal than an older model with a gatling gun. This is in no way an endorsement of Terminator Salvation the worst movie in the series
@Char Aznable Just because too many straight white males were the heroes of most action films doesn't mean they all need to be killed off just for the females of color to steal the spotlight from them! If only the straight, white males who wrote and directed Dark Fate understood that. The RIGHT way to include women and girls of color as the heroes in new action movies is simple - write something original and do not stomp on old material! March 11, 2021, 3:08am
In current timeline, cis white heterosexual man is worse than Skynet. Just because. I hope another Terminator will travel back to this timeline and reset it to make some sense again :-D
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yes, handling John Connor that way - especially using young Edward Furlong, the way we remember him through all the thrills and suspense of T2! - was majorly stupid, and disrespectful I'll add. What's more, the killing wasn't nearly earned: There was no chase, no set up... just *BLAM* take that, audience! Like a giant middle finger.
For all intents and purposes they DID kill off Luke Skywalker (by making him a quitter and a loser) in the name of Wokeness (since you aren't allowed to have a cisgender white male protagonist anymore), along with the ancient Jedi temple/library, and then Luke used the Force to commit suicide and just evaporate at the end. Like Kylo Ren tells Rey to do, "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." Disgusting.
Yeah, back when only writers with half a brain could script a big-budget Hollywood film. Boy, I miss when movies had respect for their audiences and didn't baby us like we're idiots.
James Cameron: "I don't like Alien³ because the writers killed my characters right in the beginning" Also james Cameron: "Let's start the next Terminator movie with the murder of John Conner"
Yeahhhhhhhh, I'm with you on this one too. Normally I avoid spoilers like the plague, but I had a feeling I won't be watching this one either (last one I saw was _T3_ and I was _very_ disappointed with it, back in the days before wah!!men and SJWs and even reboots were a thing), so I listened to the whole thing. Wow, I _almost_ want to start drinking.
I was going to watch it but as the day to it's release gets closer the bad reviews are coming in. Not interested in spnding big bucks for a recycled movie plot
A Man cuz I know the SJWs will fuck it up beyond repair and I rather hear a comedic take on it that can sum it in 20 minutes rather than waste my time on an hour and a half film.
I finally watched this, as it was free on Film 4. It was awful as I was expecting, but that scene where they find Arnie, enjoying a ball game with a beer?! I was like: "oh right, this is a comedy?" I didn't even make it to the end of the film. I gave up when they were driving that air tight Hummer round underwater. FFS.
Robert Patrick's portrayal of the T-1000 was flawless but it is a myth that the T-1000 never blinked. He actually blinks in 2 scenes. The first is when he is questioning the foster parents and the second is when says "say, that's a nice bike" after the Pescadero break-out. He is trying to be as human as possible in those scenes so there is a reason for it. That's me just being a nerd, lol.
I still can't believe how they've managed to destroy such a badass universe of movie potential they had here. First 2 movies were perfect, after that, WTF happened again and again.
Just like in "The Rise of Skywalker", he refers to Poe's one-time companion as "Strong Female Character", and the black chick who looks like Lando's granddaughter as "Diverse Female Character"! Along with Sylvester Stallone as "Rambo Imposter" in "Last Blood". LOL
One of our reviewers called it "Feminator" for the strong female characters. Also, teaching the John Connor replacement girl to shoot was hilarious. "It is all in your mind".
The 'Kick Ass Marine" actress (Janette Goldstein) given as an example of how to play a strong female character (Vasquez in Aliens) just so happened to also be in Terminator 2 as John's Adoptive Mum.
😂😂😂 I don't think we need to be empowered by fictional characters when there's thousands of real life females, dealing with real life problems and solving them not thanks to luck and unrealistic script but work and dedication. I personally don't care about characters gender, everyone can be inspired or impressed by positive actions of someone. No matter their skin color, age or sex.
When you try that hard to be woke; it ain't woke. Terminator 1 and 2 were woke without even trying, before the concept even existed. Sarah Connor was badass all the way through, without any agenda pushing or man-bashing. That's what "woke" movies should aim for, not... this.
I've seen the original Terminator movie so many times that I could tell just by the electricity surge noise of the T-800 being crushed by Sarah Conner in the clip at the end of the video, that it was the remastered movie clip as opposed to the original. I loved Terminator 1, 2, and found the third installment tolerable because I liked the end. Judgment Day being inevitable and Arnold leading John Conner to a safe bunker to ride out the nuclear war without him knowing was a great twist in my opinion. Everything since has been trash. I had high hopes for Salvation as it took place during the war and Christian Bale playing John Conner seemed like a plus. That plot set up was the movie I wanted to see made since I was a kid who saw Terminator 2 in the theater. I was legitimately pissed off leaving the theater after Salvation, what a fucking dud. Now we get gender fluid terminators and southern border allegory. What a nonsensical cash grab this franchise has become.
T1 is a perfect story and can only be hurt by more exposition. T2 is only good because Cameron had total control of the project. The rest are crap because of Rule #1.
I didn't get to see how it played out, but I was pretty happy with the first part of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. There was just one continuity error that bugged me, the head of the Terminator going forward in time with them. It's well established from the first movie that only living things can go through the portal.
Funny how John Connor who could hack ATMs in his teens (showing his potential with machines) was replaced by an older character showing no potential or charisma as a leader.
Feminists don't want to be treated like men, they want special privileges, and to be held in higher regard than men. In other words, it's not equality at all. It's toxic and immoral elitism.
@@lordkrythic6246 Yes, but he mean it as excuse of their actions (I guess). Also: feminist are not thought-independent at all (they more like bunch angry little brats who hates their daddy/boyfriend/husband). They are a wing of destructive marksizm. You unleash them with socialists and gender minorities, and they wrec havoc, till normality is broken... then you take over and nobody complains (they just want you to fix this: and leave your children). History repeats itself: checkout how Stalin broke Russians + other nations around it, and created USSR - workers paradise. Movies and Hollywood is just a way of spirit breaking propaganda, you see same patter over and over again, and you thin its normal.... try to explain that to people watching these movies without questioning. I think I will copy that as independent comment.
Cameron has very good instincts but he's a gambler (meaning his style is that he doesn't know how to not take huge risks) and he paints with bold colors. When he does that and it works, it works extremely well and he comes off as a genius. But sooner or later, risk taking comes back to bite you.
18:00 He didn't manifest a gun into his hand. He had the gun in his hand and he made the paper back out of his liquid metal to hide it. He used his liquid metal abilities to make it look like he was holding a paper back while he was holding the gun which was inside the paper bag. That was a great use of his liquid metal properties.
I turned this movie on, watched the first ten minutes and shut it off. Killing the main character for the single purpose of replacing him with a female version of him is the worst writing I’ve ever heard.
I did the same thing. If you saw any of the earlier movies, how could you keep watching this (crap)!? We were the lucky ones. If you kept watching it, I bet you regret it lol.
@@draftmagicagain1000 yall weren't lucky if you even so much as wasted the effort of pirating that dumpster fire(godforbid you paid lol.) The lucky ones are the ones who found out it released about a year or so after and saw the clips from TH-cam lmao
My favorite part of the movie is how the transport plane is broken into two pieces (with very different trajectories), a vehicle falls out (with a parachute), and a couple of terminators. Despite traveling across a vast area at great speed, not only do all of the parts/contents of the plane happen to land within 100 yards of each other, but they happen to land on the Hoover Dam.... Not just near the Hoover Dam, but actually the parachuted Humvee lands directly on the Hoover Dam (pretty much dead center on the span as well). I'm willing to give some leeway and suspend my disbelief to some degree, but this is about the most distracting sequence since the Fast and the Furious 6's endless runway fight where the sequence rolled out at very high speeds for 13+ minutes. That's one, very long, straight runway. Over 5 times the longest runway in the world. It's amazing how really bad this movie is, even from a mindless action movie aspect.
Basically, yes. I don't see it ending any time soon though. Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now. Emotions, motivations, relations, consistency... They all seem unimportant. I'm not sure that'll change any time soon.
@@gwenwalravens8030 "Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now." Joker: I wasn't even sure if I even existed, but I do...and people are beginning to notice.
Wow !! I saw the movie and it really REALLY sucks !! I think after Terminator 2, the best follow up for it.. would be - Rise of the Machines. And that's not saying a lot.
It’s a good thing the franchise ended with a T2 with its ending all wrapped up in a nice little bow. I’ve seen all of these. And how are they continuing to get worse and worse? And wait isn’t Linda Hamilton, Sarah Fucking Connor enough of a strong female character?
It’s bizarre that the filmmakers seemed to think that they needed to remake/reimagine Terminator as female-centric when the original two already *were* female-centric; Sarah Conner was the clear protagonist and is the reason why the good guys win in both movies. So obviously the new filmmakers just had a problem with the concept of her doing things for the sake of someone else, namely protecting her child. Wow, what an awful motive for a character.....
Even worse, they bashed her and minimized her by saying “she was just a womb”, but don’t worry our new plain and boring character is better than that, she’s a leader! We don’t show that in the movie but believe us she’s a leader!
Just like Star Wars. Remember Princess Leia? the determined smart and ruthless leader of the rebelion? Nah, she was just a bimbo, Mary Sue is a much better character, so much that we don't even care to explain her background, parents, origins or anything resembling a character.
wow. Gladi I didn't waste my time on that one. Funny you mentioned Jenette Goldstein as "Vasquez" in "Aliens." i was surprised to find that she also played John's mother in T2.
I love how you kept showing clips from the other Terminator movies that mirrored Dark Fate, but were so much better!!! I was laughing so hard at that!!!
"We made this movie so that people can see that there can be strong female heroes that everyone can like." They completely forgot that we already had strong female heroes for some 40 years. Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor that are the most loved action heroes of all time. Ripley is my personal favorite action hero off all time.
Also, as we moved into the middle era of those, and into the next, we got new franchises that brought about some who may also have messy franchises, but flawed doesn't mean bad automatically. Such as there's lots of great to be found in the Underworld Franchise, and Kate Beckinsale's Selene was and has always been great. While there's some depth but less effort put in, Alice played my Milla Jovovich of Resident Evil also was there. Heck, Marvel's own Black Widow (not Captain Woke). Now we got...Batwoman.
I love Selene from the Underworld franchise and Lara Croft. They prove that you can be strong female character that is loved by the audience without having to give up their femininity. You don't have to be a man's substitute to be a great character
The feminist agenda in this movie disgusts me. There's a line by Grace when she's telling Dani "you're not the mother of some man who saves us" - yeah because that was such a terrible thing in the original Terminator movie wasn't it!
Agreed. The worst part about it is that Sara Conner WASN'T just the mother of the man that led the resistance. She wasn't the leader of the resistance. For years she WAS the fucking resistance. She was fighting the war solo. And at the end of Terminator 2 it became clear that she didn't give birth to the leader of a resistance. She saved her son from ever having to take that burden to begin with. To give away your life, your happiness, your very sanity, to save a world that has condemned you because it was the right thing to do? To spare your child a terrible burden and give him a chance to live a normal life? That is a powerful female character that's not easily matched. But Hollywood had to fucking Hollywood and ruin it all. There never should of been a sequel to T2. Ever.
If anything that ought to empower women, knowing without them, a generation of competent men and soldiers cant be brought forward. Yes it’s a risk because of all the pain and death of war, but any woman who is told their son is the non-biblical saviour of humanity itself, will have understandable and believable cause to become a soldier and a fighter. Feminists these days believe that simply being a woman is enough to empower, but you’ve got no philosophical or physical basis to build yourself on other than chromosomes and sex organs - of which femininity tried to depose before being hijacked. It’s about purpose and carrying on in a state where humanity is literally at the receiving end of domination and annihilation. Regardless of gender, whoever rises to that fight, no matter the consequence, is someone to look to.
@Patrick Sylvia It's not "just a movie" ya bloody normie! Ever hear of propaganda? Just like academia and politics, radical feminists like Kathleen Kennedy have infiltrated Hollywood via gender quotas and have destroyed and emasculated strong male heroes. I highly doubt you're a man "Patrick", as you're using the same ad hominem shaming tactics a woman would.
This people are pitiful and pathetic. They want anger but to be honest why would we be? they are so bad its best to just ignore the c**ts at this point.
I remembered having high hopes for this movie, I thought Linda Hamilton would bring back some sense to this franchise, dunno why I thought that when not even Arnold could achieve such lofty goal.
100%. They could've ended it at T2 with the "no fate but what we make it", and it would've been great. I could even accept T3 with the "some things are inevitable [judgement day], and we need to make the best of it" being an ending, despite the beginning of the decline in quality. But no, they just had to keep pumping them out.
They should have turned all the vehicles into tricked out low riders then had them go off road and get stuck in a wash. ...La cucaracha horns going off.
OMG the 10:14 mark that has the laugh track meme is so perfect. I was laughing before that popped on. Then I laughed harder! I'm glad I never saw a Terminator movie after T3.
Edward Furlong has a checkered past. The filmmakers sort of did him a favor bringing him back for this film. However, they also humiliated him by killing him off without a line of dialogue. Still, he needed the money, I'm sure.
@@Mike-cg6zs sure they do... They are supposed to be nearly undetectable. Arnold never really fit the Terminator 'mold' as he stands out like a sore thumb really. If you're looking for a death machine disquised as a human... Arnold stands out as one.
There's one huge plothole in the whole concept of Terminator Dark Fate: if they didn't have to save John Connor, because in case of his death someone else will take his place as future resistance leader (Dani Ramos), why really bother to save any future leader? If terminator would kill Dani, then another resistance leader would emerge and take her place :-D
Yep - I have made exactly the same point. This movie was not only pants, but it also undermined the very premise of the Terminator franchise - that the fate of the human race can hinge on the survival of one individual and that humanity must do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of that individual. There is no investment in Dani, since this movie has now established that if she is killed, somebody else will just step up, just like happened with John Connor.
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Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time" Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse" Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?" Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
They literally killed off anything remotely male and remade the whole Terminator franchise as femenist. John Connor dies, and the Arnold Terminator becomes an interior decorator instead of a badass biker. It's literally a joke and a huge F you to the originals.
That a terminator could lead a "normal" life after completing its mission, flies in the face of what was established in T2. They're sent as "read only" by Skynet so it would only carry its program. Most probably it would've self-destructed. Dark Fate really shat on the entire Terminator franchise.
Vasquez from Aliens 2 still gives me a chub. How she got herself so ripped then looked completely different in T2 is mindblowing. Women that are real badasses are hot but when they look hot too.... Damn
John Conner is terminated less than a minute into this film, that’s all the reason any fan needs to not even bother with this and to put it bluntly it’s TLJ of the Terminator Saga.
It's worse that you think. Non other than James Cameron has said in interviews that he HATES when sequels kill off main characters people like from previous movies for no reason. This was his response on Alien 3 when they killed off of his characters from Aliens. So, for him to approve the killing of John Conner right at the start, means he's just pissing on the fans at this point and does not give a shit as long as he gets a political correct new movie.
Of course they have to kill John off within the first couple of minutes. That's the filmmakers saying; "This is our franchise now. It's now all about girl power". They have to destroy your heroes and replace them with their own.
The T2 Arnold sacrificed himself because there was a second chip which can be used to develop SkyNet. He learned to be more human throughout the movie and at the end wanted to cry, but his body just wasn't equipped to do it. At least that's what the 11-year-old me saw in that movie and I've kept seeing it since. I'm not trying to defend this new movie, just saying the way I saw T2.
I understand that but did you watch the film? The future scene with Danni is literally laughable. I'm sorry but in no world is some soft young girl leading the human resistance against the machines. Go back and re watch terminator 1 or 2's future was scenes and the real feel of how desperate and brutal the following years after judgment day were. Little Danni Ramos just is not believable in that scenario I'm sorry. Not only is it not believable its highly unlikely in all reality (if this were reality) that a person like Dani would be anything remotely close to the leader of the human resistance. Just saying.
The nick-names (e.g., "androgynous-thing," "generic-teenage-girl," "apple-genius," etc.) are perfect for conveying how little the audience care about these less-than-video-game characters.
I greatly appreciate you stomaching the worst that Hollywood has to produce for us these days. On the flip, you enjoy movies as much as I do & would love to hear your take on Children of Men, a movie on the very very short list of my top of all time.
It sucks that nowadays every big cinema IP is just milking the original creation to cash in on nostalgia or worse they just use it because it’s already laid the groundwork of becoming popular so the hype of its continuation pretty much runs itself along with having a massive fan base that will definitely go see it simply because it’s got the name of the original stamped on it. So, they already have a mass of fans who will pay money to see it simply because of the name. This in itself isn’t a good thing for creativity, in my opinion, because of how much the IP is already loved there less chance of real effort being put forth to make a truly provocative film. There’s probably enough substance to this subject to make a case study about how and why everything made recently is crappy and derivative while things in the past are groundbreaking and inspiring.
Ironically Terminator 1 and 2 are how you write the evolution of a strong female character. In Terminator 1 Sarah was a damsel in distress because she was in over her head. In T2 she had 10 years of training under her belt and didn’t just use physical strength she used her mind too. Like when she used a paperclip to free herself and used a syringe of bleach to hold a hostage.
Are these actors fucking conscious? I mean it! Do they realize how this egregious slop seriously diminishes their earlier work in the franchise and overall credibility?
She was mentally damaged and almost murdered an innocent. FLAWED. Hollywood can't write like this anymore. Female characters can't do any wrong and are all somehow victims and need to put down men. It's woke garbage.
One of my favourite authors, Neal Asher, had a script credit for this film. I think it would have been the human hybrid's abilities being only available in short bursts/causing damage thing, that's an Asher trope.
Robovader Never really liked him anyways. Sure he made legendary flicks but nowadays, like Ridley Scott, don't really care much about originality or creativity and have no problem allowing their very own franchises to be butchered just to make a bit of coin
Wow, the first terminator must have made you pretty furious then right? I mean, that ending is total feminist, misandrist nonsense! This is also like the third time John Connor being killed has been used in the entire Terminator franchise. Not a new idea devised by your feminist-sjw-zombie arch-nemeses.
@@BeggarsNight How is it feminist, misandrist nonsense? It was apolitical. Just a mom doing whatever she can to keep her unborn child safe. Something leftists wouldn't understand, since they believe murdering unborn children is a far better and virtuous idea.
I wanted to walk out when they killed John Conner but when they decided to go full-on let's pretend the greatest sci-fi of all time never happened I actually said "you bastards" out-loud in the cinema.
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The Critical Drinker remade this to “Terminator Dark Fate Review: Don’t Know”
The Critical Drinker please don’t ever stop reviewing bad films, you make things that are horribly unentertaining the highlight of my day.
I have a script im working on. Its about twin brothers at the start of Americas involvement in WW2. They both go to join the Army but one has epilepsy and gets left behind. After all the brave men have left for war, he is left behind with mostly women, children, the elderly. At this point when most the capable men are gone....women, including his brothers Wife, begin to dissapear.... Id love to send you the rough draft/ outline!
@Crows Wit Gaming that is a comically Terrible movie that looks awful, has hard cuts and a narrative that is nearly impossible to follow. You don't get enough backstory to understand or to bother caring what the character motivations are. The acting is hollow, like the people on screen couldn't tell.if their checks were still good, the cinematography is horrid and there is hardly ever two different people talking in one shot, it cuts every couple seconds and the laser shooty fights are almost funny if they weren't supposed to be serious. I saw the trailers and thought it looked like it had potential. I wanted, badly, to like it, but I can't. It so boring, has such abrupt transitions, is so hard to enjoy it took me three times to get through it and I have only vague memories of it. Please tell me this was an ironic endorsement and that you only wanted it shredded to tatters even worse than the staff responsible for the blight that is Jupitor Ascending left on our doorstep like a flaming bag.
Old movies rely on good writing. New movies rely on good old movies.
Very well said.
Yeah. I was thinking this while watching this poor movie.
I thought back in the day, people created movies with passion. They were exploring new things and ideas.
Today, they just copy and paste everything. No passion.
Plus they are pushing this horrible gender agenda.
Yuck.
Spot on!
**cough** *new Star Wars trilogy* **cough**
Live Action Disney's remakes exited the chat.
Terminator: Woke Fate: "I'll be back."
Terminator fans: "We won't."
LMFAO 😂👌
The Terminator franchise has become the worst cinematic franchise in a highly competitive field.
So true, from an old die-hard fan (T1 & 2).
You know how visual novels have a bunch of bad endings you have to sit through to get to the true ending?
Now remove the true ending.
And today's "Internet Comment of the Day" winner is....
Sarah Connor; "I'll be back"
Terminator Fans; "We won't!*
I won’t either
@@Jesus_Christ_Is_Lord77 The Special Effects in this film look like they have been done by a 5 year old. Very poorly done does not even look realistic or pleasing to the eye. Whoever gave this film a go ahead should have been sacked. Shows a lack of hard work ever went into this film, hardly any...
They should have let it end with T2. On the other hand, they had interesting comics in the 80s and 90s, that would have been better than what they made, like terminator vs robocop by frank Miller.
I wonder how many times they can bring back Arnold as an old reprogrammed daddy Terminator. Twice so far
"Generic teenage girl"
"Androgynous thing"
"Apple genius"
made me LOL hard
best way to describe our new trio...Granny Connor, Dora The Explorer and the LGBT-1000
@@chrishunter8305 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
@@chrishunter8305 great
@@chrishunter8305 perfection.
My favorite line?
"They can..... FUCK..................................RIGHT.......................................OFF"
Terminator: Metal.
Terminator 2: Liquid Metal.
Terminator Dark Fate: Gender fluid.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Terminator Dark Fate @FUCKING LAUGHABLE JOKE
Best comment i have ever read.
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHA!!
The worst part was when Sarah downplayed her own role to referring to herself as just a womb to some man who saves humanity. They seem to forget what Kyle said in terminator: it was a chance to meet the legend, Sarah Connor. Taught her son to fight, organize. To prepare him when he was just a kid. When you went in hiding before the war.
James Cameron must be suffering from alzeimers since he allowed this continuity error on screen. Sarah wasn't just some incubator of a messiah. She was the one that made John into a warrior with her guidance.
Well they could care less about continuity at this point,, I don't think the elites write for this movie game anymore,, what you've got is braindead uni drama grads writing it.
After reading the plot synopsis and hearing they killed John Connor [who was an interesting character in T2 and T3 as a kid and adult carrying a heavy burden on his shoulders], they could have used John as a mentor to the younger, genderbent John Conner because he would be able to help her process the emotions and mental stuff of being a savior for humanity while he, Sarah, and an Arnie Terminator protected from alternate timeline Skynet in one last hurrah before letting the franchise go to rest. That would have made for a pretty compelling story and character interaction if it had been done right. But no, we can't have anything nuanced and interesting in "current year." Oh well. Least we got T1 and T2 to enjoy with Sarah and John Connor dealing with killer robots from the future and grappling with fate itself to save humanity without anyone ever knowing it.
The truth doesn't fit their feminist agenda. Where a mother is shunned and frowned upon but an androgynous tough woman that acts like a man and a victim are idolized. It's all part of the narrative to undermine the family unit and push this androgyny/feminist agenda. Because people who have no family and see themselves as victims of toxic men are easier to control and brain wash. Divide and conquer.
The funny part is that Grace, the hybrid protector from the future pulled her power source out which ironically is still the location of the womb. So in the end, the womb still saves the day?
Well since John died young and that time line was wiped there was no her becoming a legend in anyone's mind in the future
When they were marketing this the director smugly announced that this movie would “terrify” men instantly alienating a large portion of their audience. Genius.
He knew that he made a pile of garbage, that's why he said it.
Bait the trolls, then you can deflect from the quality of the film by pointing out the mean things some say. I don't think it helped his career much, but they all still use the strat and hope it works.
😢
Kinda like when movies boil female characters down to hot female lead or love interest, alienating half of the audience.
When Schwarzenegger said “I’ll be back” I felt excited and looked forward to him coming back. When Linda Hamilton said “I’ll be back”, I wanted to reply by saying “take your time” or “it’s okay I got this, you don’t need to”
All of a sudden, Terminator 3 doesn't seem like such a bad movie...
For me, I thought Terminator 3 was good AND the end of the series! It showed back then, that they could only relatively copy T2 rather than try to be original!
I like it to but its just alot of terminator 2 again getting leather clothes chase with a small vehicle vs big vehicle fight in a research center it looks the same only t2 is better
All of the sequels look good in comparison to this garbage. And Terminator 3 was never bad per say, just poorly executed.
Machine versus Human war, Boogaloo America wasteland era.
The humans in 2040 were led by that one general that said the famous " no fate speech" like the one in 2029 and then after that sky net was defeated. but after the 2040 no fate speech Legion Network was defeated, by this girl all grown up,
T3 wasn't a bad movie. It made sense most of all and we got to see a almost human T-800. For me works fine as the end of the series, with bombs dropping all over the place.
Terminator, Predator, Aliens, Star Wars, Ghostbusters....remember the fallen.
The last of us.
The last of us part 2
Star trek and doctor who
The walking dead. Season 9 and 10. SJW probaganda.
Dont forget james bond and jurassic park 🤦🏻♂️
The most ridiculous part of this movies is how Dani became the leader of the resistance in the future not because she shows latent talent in the present or has good leadership skills. But because she told a really motivating speech to some scavengers.
Don't forget the fact she's a she. That's probably 99% of it, at least for the writers.
By that standard any High School football coach could be the new messiah
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539no, because they’re men.
God I loved Vasquez in Aliens: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "No, have you?" And her delivery was just right on the money. A great character and a great performance from Jenette Goldstein.
I never realised for years she was in t2
What does that have to do with this
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 vasquez was mentioned in the vid. And woman who played her was in the film
Ahh when Hollywood let sassy female actors be themselves.....see we don't need said female actors (like that one who played She Hulk) to tell us she's cool or better than Hudson.....the banter between those two was awsome in Aliens. It's called chemistry and it was totally organic......also the other space marines were pretty good too even the ones who had small but impactful roles that we remember 37 years on. Oh and for the record....I"m a big Mackenzie Davis fan. Loved her in Halt and Catch Fire which is still a sleeper for AMC that I watched from beginning to end.
@@johnm3907 also see “near dark”. Lance and bill in it too
Ethic person✔
Strong female lead✔
LGBTQ✔
Nostalgia ✔
2019 movies
@@MrCholoPants3415 Too true
@CG Vallejos oh yea, oRaNgE mAn BaD
The funny thing to me is that it's actually an insult to women that producers feel the need to *FORCE* a "strong female" presence when it should just come naturally depending on the film. The "strong female lead" has been done really well since the beginning of time... in the same franchise no less, and some of the best characters of all time are female. These clowns just don't get it.
Diversity Is Our Strength...
(Leaves room after successful troll)
Gay...CHECK
Edit: Just met Robert Patrick at Indiana Comic Con, showed him this comment, and he confirmed everything, adding he caught up to the dirt bike on the first take and they subsequently had to increase its speed from 13 to 15 mph. He appreciated the comments and replies and autographed my T-1000 photo with “Call to John.” I am giddy.
Apparently, Robert Patrick independently trained for his role as the T-1000 to not show fatigue while running. I read somewhere he did extensive cardio on his own to build up his stamina so his character's chase scenes would look as effortless as possible. I often fall victim to looking upon the past with rose-tinted glasses, but goddammit, who does that for a role anymore?
He also trained himself not to flinch while firing a gun
The joker
@Guilty
@@ididntaskverified3663
Christian Bale and Joaquin Phoenix were dangerously close to dying when they lost weight for their roles in The Machinist and The Joker
Henry cavill did some pretty dang hard training too for his role as Superman. Got jacked quick, definitely won’t feel good in 20 years or so though
Edit: for anyone wondering, no, obviously getting jacked (even quickly) isn’t by itself going to be harmful, but the routines actors like Henry Cavill do to get properly pumped beyond normality for on screen appearances is definitely more hardcore. Not as hardcore as what bodybuilders do, but more involved than what normal guys hitting the gym are doing. Neither is this as intense as what guys like Joaquin phoenix do to get sickly and thin, but it’s something.
The T1000 running was always ominous looking, like when he could almost catch John while he was on a motorcycle
I STILL get chills during T2, when Sarah gets her first glimpse of what she thinks is the original terminator. Her response is so perfectly done- all that terror, frustration, and exhaustion in one sound and 2 seconds of action.
I rewatched it not long ago and afterwards I was angry - because it hit me just how the "get down!" scene was supposed to be a shocking plot twist, but it had been revealed well in advance that Arnold was the "good" Terminator this time.
That’s crazy a movie can give someone “chills”
It is a timeless masterpiece.
@@zombiedodge1426True, that also ground my gears. How recklessly they tossed that great twist out the window.
I'd truly be unable to imagine a terminator more dangerous than T1000. He was a legitimately scary, and had an amazing way about with the way he interacts with people not on his kill list. He shown charisma in talking to bystanders, but the second he spots the target, he just tears after them.
But I love how even when he’s showing that charisma, something still seems a little bit off but you can’t quite put your finger it. Just an incredible performance.
He was the best villain but less leathal than an older model with a gatling gun. This is in no way an endorsement of Terminator Salvation the worst movie in the series
When they killed John Connor you know its gonna sucks so hard.
@Char Aznable Sadly.
Especially when its been built up to be the end of humanity, then instead just causes someone else to autofill in as the saviour
@Char Aznable Just because too many straight white males were the heroes of most action films doesn't mean they all need to be killed off just for the females of color to steal the spotlight from them! If only the straight, white males who wrote and directed Dark Fate understood that. The RIGHT way to include women and girls of color as the heroes in new action movies is simple - write something original and do not stomp on old material! March 11, 2021, 3:08am
When I saw that I avoided this movie like the plague
Real Spill
They killed off John Connor for two reasons: He was a man, and so that the generic teenage girl could take his place as a female John Connor.
@Disney is the Devil I was about to reply the same thing. Lol.
Exactly. And I am not surprised
In current timeline, cis white heterosexual man is worse than Skynet. Just because.
I hope another Terminator will travel back to this timeline and reset it to make some sense again :-D
@SJW Cure BULLSHITTO
@@tlamiczka Yes, because terminators do like things to make sense.
Now i understand why skynet wanted to destroy humanity in judgement day...
We made "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk a hit???
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yes, handling John Connor that way - especially using young Edward Furlong, the way we remember him through all the thrills and suspense of T2! - was majorly stupid, and disrespectful I'll add. What's more, the killing wasn't nearly earned: There was no chase, no set up... just *BLAM* take that, audience! Like a giant middle finger.
For all intents and purposes they DID kill off Luke Skywalker (by making him a quitter and a loser) in the name of Wokeness (since you aren't allowed to have a cisgender white male protagonist anymore), along with the ancient Jedi temple/library, and then Luke used the Force to commit suicide and just evaporate at the end. Like Kylo Ren tells Rey to do, "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." Disgusting.
There is actually a what if out there, where if Luke did die, Leah would take up the saber.
"There's gonna be spoilers."
Can't spoil what's already rotten.
S.A.M. That is hilarious
LOL
Oooooh I’m not Tim Miller and even I felt that burn 🔥🔥🔥
hey, you stole that from Doomcock!
@@wilemelliott
Is that some sort of Doom-themed pornstar? Sorry, I've never heard of him.
Sarah Connor never had to say, "I'm gonna stand and fight!" as an indicator of her character arc. Didn't have to.
Yeah, back when only writers with half a brain could script a big-budget Hollywood film.
Boy, I miss when movies had respect for their audiences and didn't baby us like we're idiots.
On your feed soldier was much better
@@606danco That, and "You're terminated, fucker!"
OpenMawProductions that was also a great line
Sarah Conner was shown, on screen, which is the point of a movie, standing, and fighting.
"female dick weaving to establish who's the stronger strong female character" - This one had me dead 😂
I miss the universe Salvation built. So many stories could have been told.
James Cameron: "I don't like Alien³ because the writers killed my characters right in the beginning"
Also james Cameron: "Let's start the next Terminator movie with the murder of John Conner"
Why did you write Alien 3 as Alien to the power of 3? :p
@@1nc0gn120 because thats the actual title
I liked alien 3, it was ok.
All Cameron thinks about now is how the hell he is gonna sell people friggin 4 Avatar movies. I see you James.
James Cameron is just a money grubbing phony
“Don’t Watch if you don’t want spoilers.”
Nah I’m good man, go ahead, don’t wanna watch the actual film anyway.
Yeahhhhhhhh, I'm with you on this one too. Normally I avoid spoilers like the plague, but I had a feeling I won't be watching this one either (last one I saw was _T3_ and I was _very_ disappointed with it, back in the days before wah!!men and SJWs and even reboots were a thing), so I listened to the whole thing.
Wow, I _almost_ want to start drinking.
Same
Same. I'll still watch the movie, it's not like anything unpredictable is going to happen. The trailers have already spoiled much of the movie anyway.
I was going to watch it but as the day to it's release gets closer the bad reviews are coming in. Not interested in spnding big bucks for a recycled movie plot
A Man cuz I know the SJWs will fuck it up beyond repair and I rather hear a comedic take on it that can sum it in 20 minutes rather than waste my time on an hour and a half film.
I finally watched this, as it was free on Film 4. It was awful as I was expecting, but that scene where they find Arnie, enjoying a ball game with a beer?! I was like: "oh right, this is a comedy?" I didn't even make it to the end of the film. I gave up when they were driving that air tight Hummer round underwater. FFS.
Robert Patrick's portrayal of the T-1000 was flawless but it is a myth that the T-1000 never blinked. He actually blinks in 2 scenes. The first is when he is questioning the foster parents and the second is when says "say, that's a nice bike" after the Pescadero break-out. He is trying to be as human as possible in those scenes so there is a reason for it. That's me just being a nerd, lol.
-'Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?'
-'No, have you?'
I didn't know she played John Connor's adopted mother in T2.
they did to John what they did to Newt and Hicks!
game over man, game over!
@@heedmywarning2792 She was also a cop in Lethal Weapon 2. Very underrated actress and should have had more parts.
now that was a tough bitch ;)
That is funny!!!!!!
"Granny Conner, Dora the explorer, and the LGBT-1000" as one wise man said...
Haha damn
The Blessed Pipeman.
Fuckin genius .. lmao
Dora looks hot, though!
They should've cast the Dora the explorer from robot chicken. That is one hot Colombian.
I still can't believe how they've managed to destroy such a badass universe of movie potential they had here. First 2 movies were perfect, after that, WTF happened again and again.
James Cameron "toxic masculinity is a problem"
Also James Cameron - "All my female characters exhibit the traits of toxic masculinity"
Yes, these false ideologies are mere temper tantrums; they clearly make no sense when logically evaluated...
I love how he never calls the characters by their names.
That probably explains how memorable they all are.
"......Generic teenage girl and androgynous thing..."
Lmfao!
dont forget "Apple Genius"
@@rendyajadech1957 How did he come up with the term "Apple Genius"?
Just like in "The Rise of Skywalker", he refers to Poe's one-time companion as "Strong Female Character", and the black chick who looks like Lando's granddaughter as "Diverse Female Character"!
Along with Sylvester Stallone as "Rambo Imposter" in "Last Blood". LOL
I love how "androgynous thing" and "generic teenage girl" perfectly and completely discribe the two characters.
I remember the 80's, when "generic teenage girl" usually at least meant a decent shower scene.
@@rogerwagner6940 THAT was the key point!
Apple genius does too 🤣
One of our reviewers called it "Feminator" for the strong female characters.
Also, teaching the John Connor replacement girl to shoot was hilarious. "It is all in your mind".
The 'Kick Ass Marine" actress (Janette Goldstein) given as an example of how to play a strong female character (Vasquez in Aliens) just so happened to also be in Terminator 2 as John's Adoptive Mum.
I love the fact that these feminist woke movies are so empowering for women that even women avoid them like the plague.
Well done SJW Hollywood.
It's almost as if most people really don't care about the political standing of a bunch of rich filmmakers, but rather want to see good movies.
😂😂😂 I don't think we need to be empowered by fictional characters when there's thousands of real life females, dealing with real life problems and solving them not thanks to luck and unrealistic script but work and dedication.
I personally don't care about characters gender, everyone can be inspired or impressed by positive actions of someone. No matter their skin color, age or sex.
@@megan7788 Thank you for that Megan. Stay healthy out there!
@@inblackestnight9256 thanks, you too!
When you try that hard to be woke; it ain't woke.
Terminator 1 and 2 were woke without even trying, before the concept even existed. Sarah Connor was badass all the way through, without any agenda pushing or man-bashing. That's what "woke" movies should aim for, not... this.
I didn't even see the movie and I still want a refund. 😑
Pirate movies it helps with the pain of all these sjw movie disasters, at least the pay thing, the frustrations are still there.
KrO ah, but the Chinese will pirate this as I type and sell them in Asia for $1. I still won’t watch it. Tired of SJW movies.
So sad watching my beloved favorite classics get destroyed by "The Message"
I've seen the original Terminator movie so many times that I could tell just by the electricity surge noise of the T-800 being crushed by Sarah Conner in the clip at the end of the video, that it was the remastered movie clip as opposed to the original. I loved Terminator 1, 2, and found the third installment tolerable because I liked the end. Judgment Day being inevitable and Arnold leading John Conner to a safe bunker to ride out the nuclear war without him knowing was a great twist in my opinion. Everything since has been trash. I had high hopes for Salvation as it took place during the war and Christian Bale playing John Conner seemed like a plus. That plot set up was the movie I wanted to see made since I was a kid who saw Terminator 2 in the theater. I was legitimately pissed off leaving the theater after Salvation, what a fucking dud. Now we get gender fluid terminators and southern border allegory. What a nonsensical cash grab this franchise has become.
T1 is a perfect story and can only be hurt by more exposition. T2 is only good because Cameron had total control of the project. The rest are crap because of Rule #1.
I didn't get to see how it played out, but I was pretty happy with the first part of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. There was just one continuity error that bugged me, the head of the Terminator going forward in time with them. It's well established from the first movie that only living things can go through the portal.
Funny how John Connor who could hack ATMs in his teens (showing his potential with machines) was replaced by an older character showing no potential or charisma as a leader.
Charisma vacuum.
“Stand and fight!!! “😫 🤭😂🤣
She works with machines, so, she's... something, surely.
Nah, there is no agenda here ...LOL. Hollywood sucks...
yea but women
Feminist Hollywood: “Men suck”
10 minutes later: “Let’s make a movie where girls act like men”
Their movies do indeed suck, so it adds up.
Femminism is penis envy
Well said!
Feminists don't want to be treated like men, they want special privileges, and to be held in higher regard than men. In other words, it's not equality at all. It's toxic and immoral elitism.
@@lordkrythic6246 Yes, but he mean it as excuse of their actions (I guess). Also: feminist are not thought-independent at all (they more like bunch angry little brats who hates their daddy/boyfriend/husband). They are a wing of destructive marksizm. You unleash them with socialists and gender minorities, and they wrec havoc, till normality is broken... then you take over and nobody complains (they just want you to fix this: and leave your children).
History repeats itself: checkout how Stalin broke Russians + other nations around it, and created USSR - workers paradise.
Movies and Hollywood is just a way of spirit breaking propaganda, you see same patter over and over again, and you thin its normal.... try to explain that to people watching these movies without questioning.
I think I will copy that as independent comment.
Cameron has very good instincts but he's a gambler (meaning his style is that he doesn't know how to not take huge risks) and he paints with bold colors. When he does that and it works, it works extremely well and he comes off as a genius. But sooner or later, risk taking comes back to bite you.
Cameron hates what the did to his characters in alien 3 but it’s okay to kill j c what a dumb ass hypocrite
18:00 He didn't manifest a gun into his hand. He had the gun in his hand and he made the paper back out of his liquid metal to hide it. He used his liquid metal abilities to make it look like he was holding a paper back while he was holding the gun which was inside the paper bag. That was a great use of his liquid metal properties.
I turned this movie on, watched the first ten minutes and shut it off. Killing the main character for the single purpose of replacing him with a female version of him is the worst writing I’ve ever heard.
They also killed him to give Sarah a reason to be in the movie.
I did the same thing. If you saw any of the earlier movies, how could you keep watching this (crap)!?
We were the lucky ones. If you kept watching it, I bet you regret it lol.
Welcome to Woke-world 'logic'.
It makes sense hed die
@@draftmagicagain1000 yall weren't lucky if you even so much as wasted the effort of pirating that dumpster fire(godforbid you paid lol.) The lucky ones are the ones who found out it released about a year or so after and saw the clips from TH-cam lmao
I just pretend everything ended with T2.
No pretending necessary. It did.
Yeah I tell people just watch the first two and you're fine
Yup, I’ll never watch anything after t2
T3 was great too, I don't know why everyone is ignoring it. Yeah, anything after T3 was just trash.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I will give you t3. Only if you want to watch it
My favorite part of the movie is how the transport plane is broken into two pieces (with very different trajectories), a vehicle falls out (with a parachute), and a couple of terminators. Despite traveling across a vast area at great speed, not only do all of the parts/contents of the plane happen to land within 100 yards of each other, but they happen to land on the Hoover Dam.... Not just near the Hoover Dam, but actually the parachuted Humvee lands directly on the Hoover Dam (pretty much dead center on the span as well).
I'm willing to give some leeway and suspend my disbelief to some degree, but this is about the most distracting sequence since the Fast and the Furious 6's endless runway fight where the sequence rolled out at very high speeds for 13+ minutes. That's one, very long, straight runway. Over 5 times the longest runway in the world.
It's amazing how really bad this movie is, even from a mindless action movie aspect.
10:04 "I'm gonna Stand and Fiiiiight" - LMFAO.... I can't stop laughing at that part.
So is 2019 the 'destroy every franchise ever' year?
Godzilla was good.
Basically, yes. I don't see it ending any time soon though. Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now. Emotions, motivations, relations, consistency... They all seem unimportant. I'm not sure that'll change any time soon.
@@gwenwalravens8030 "Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now."
Joker: I wasn't even sure if I even existed, but I do...and people are beginning to notice.
Godzilla and Joker were good.
If you put Joker into the Batman franchise and not a franchise of its own.
It's been going on for years. Start Trek, dead. Star Wars, dead. Doctor Who, dead. Ghostbusters, dead. They even murdered The Lion King.
*John Connor dies*
Fanbase: Ight Imma head out
You know what, I'm glad. He's in a better place than this shit show lol
Wow !! I saw the movie and it really REALLY sucks !!
I think after Terminator 2, the best follow up for it.. would be - Rise of the Machines. And that's not saying a lot.
@@jot8000 I've said it before: the newer Terminator movies are making Terminator 3 look like a classic, despite how maligned it was at the time.
@@joelellis7035 Yes .
@@joelellis7035 We can all agree terminator peaked at t2 and should had ended there
A Terminator retiring and getting an ordinary human life after completing its mission was a Robot Chicken plot XD
It’s a good thing the franchise ended with a T2 with its ending all wrapped up in a nice little bow.
I’ve seen all of these. And how are they continuing to get worse and worse? And wait isn’t Linda Hamilton, Sarah Fucking Connor enough of a strong female character?
Herminator: Come with me Juanita Connor, if you want to subvert the patriarchy
Herminator?
Most underrated comment.
😅😄😂🤣
Damn that's GOOD =D
Soo Kay!
Female terminator: I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle..
It’s bizarre that the filmmakers seemed to think that they needed to remake/reimagine Terminator as female-centric when the original two already *were* female-centric; Sarah Conner was the clear protagonist and is the reason why the good guys win in both movies. So obviously the new filmmakers just had a problem with the concept of her doing things for the sake of someone else, namely protecting her child. Wow, what an awful motive for a character.....
Even worse, they bashed her and minimized her by saying “she was just a womb”, but don’t worry our new plain and boring character is better than that, she’s a leader! We don’t show that in the movie but believe us she’s a leader!
Just like Star Wars. Remember Princess Leia? the determined smart and ruthless leader of the rebelion? Nah, she was just a bimbo, Mary Sue is a much better character, so much that we don't even care to explain her background, parents, origins or anything resembling a character.
But you see, the original is a heresy, it doesn't fit with their version of strong wamen, it was written by a man, burn in hell !
@@Zamolxes77 This was written and directed by a man too. Fail.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 He's the wrong version of a man !!! Burn him !
wow. Gladi I didn't waste my time on that one.
Funny you mentioned Jenette Goldstein as "Vasquez" in "Aliens." i was surprised to find that she also played John's mother in T2.
I love how you kept showing clips from the other Terminator movies that mirrored Dark Fate, but were so much better!!! I was laughing so hard at that!!!
The drinker is GOATED lol
This crap just makes you realize how amazing T2 was.
This crap made me realize Genisys wasn’t that bad.
makes you wish the series ended with Salvation
Genesys was a big f-k you to T2, the best stuff never happened
RIGHT!!!
MrGenexxx, no shit, as bad as Genisys is.
Hollywood's romance with feminism is slowly killing the quality of movies
Slowly?
@@JohnMoloneyruthlesstruth "Slowly"
A -freakin-men!!
I thought exactly the same thing today at work.
Slowly?
They terminated the terminator movies from the fans who actually love the first and second movies.
I just love the unbridled ferocity with which the Drinker goes at it, culminating in the grim bottom line at 19:48 Much darker than the actual movie
"We made this movie so that people can see that there can be strong female heroes that everyone can like."
They completely forgot that we already had strong female heroes for some 40 years. Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor that are the most loved action heroes of all time. Ripley is my personal favorite action hero off all time.
Also, as we moved into the middle era of those, and into the next, we got new franchises that brought about some who may also have messy franchises, but flawed doesn't mean bad automatically. Such as there's lots of great to be found in the Underworld Franchise, and Kate Beckinsale's Selene was and has always been great. While there's some depth but less effort put in, Alice played my Milla Jovovich of Resident Evil also was there. Heck, Marvel's own Black Widow (not Captain Woke). Now we got...Batwoman.
I love Selene from the Underworld franchise and Lara Croft. They prove that you can be strong female character that is loved by the audience without having to give up their femininity. You don't have to be a man's substitute to be a great character
Let's please not forget Buffy 'The Vampire Slayer' Summers, mkay?
Exactly... it has never been a real problem. And there were plenty more.
Ripley is so well rounded
The feminist agenda in this movie disgusts me. There's a line by Grace when she's telling Dani "you're not the mother of some man who saves us" - yeah because that was such a terrible thing in the original Terminator movie wasn't it!
Agreed. The worst part about it is that Sara Conner WASN'T just the mother of the man that led the resistance. She wasn't the leader of the resistance. For years she WAS the fucking resistance. She was fighting the war solo. And at the end of Terminator 2 it became clear that she didn't give birth to the leader of a resistance. She saved her son from ever having to take that burden to begin with. To give away your life, your happiness, your very sanity, to save a world that has condemned you because it was the right thing to do? To spare your child a terrible burden and give him a chance to live a normal life? That is a powerful female character that's not easily matched.
But Hollywood had to fucking Hollywood and ruin it all.
There never should of been a sequel to T2. Ever.
If anything that ought to empower women, knowing without them, a generation of competent men and soldiers cant be brought forward. Yes it’s a risk because of all the pain and death of war, but any woman who is told their son is the non-biblical saviour of humanity itself, will have understandable and believable cause to become a soldier and a fighter. Feminists these days believe that simply being a woman is enough to empower, but you’ve got no philosophical or physical basis to build yourself on other than chromosomes and sex organs - of which femininity tried to depose before being hijacked. It’s about purpose and carrying on in a state where humanity is literally at the receiving end of domination and annihilation. Regardless of gender, whoever rises to that fight, no matter the consequence, is someone to look to.
@Patrick Sylvia It's not "just a movie" ya bloody normie! Ever hear of propaganda? Just like academia and politics, radical feminists like Kathleen Kennedy have infiltrated Hollywood via gender quotas and have destroyed and emasculated strong male heroes. I highly doubt you're a man "Patrick", as you're using the same ad hominem shaming tactics a woman would.
Patrick Sylvia oh shut up and get a clue
This people are pitiful and pathetic. They want anger but to be honest why would we be? they are so bad its best to just ignore the c**ts at this point.
18:22 I think the head tilt is a throwback to Michael Myers in Halloween. Great video man!
I remembered having high hopes for this movie, I thought Linda Hamilton would bring back some sense to this franchise, dunno why I thought that when not even Arnold could achieve such lofty goal.
Movies today have a different purpose than entertainment.
Movies today: Force an agenda
Movies back then: Entertainment
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What caused you to *[MAKE A MOVIE]?*
Money
No, it's just that people today go online to see what they should think about a movie instead of forming their own judgement.
The ending of T2 was perfect. Nothing after that exists.
I have the same theory for the Alien movies. Nothing after the second one happened....
The ending of T3 was perfect, epic ending
Many porns came after. I watch a lot of porn.
@Snails40 Why are non zombie leftists even paying attention to this feminist woke pile of garbage, just ignore it 😵
100%. They could've ended it at T2 with the "no fate but what we make it", and it would've been great.
I could even accept T3 with the "some things are inevitable [judgement day], and we need to make the best of it" being an ending, despite the beginning of the decline in quality.
But no, they just had to keep pumping them out.
6:15
That sequence of screams.....I AM CRYING over here! 🤣
Is it even possible Hollywood put something original out at this point? Is there anything left that hasn't been ruined?
"I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle"
Mexican fate: hasta la vista franchise.
Nice
😂😂😂👍
"i also need four asada tacos and diet coke"
Lol Awesome!
They should have turned all the vehicles into tricked out low riders then had them go off road and get stuck in a wash. ...La cucaracha horns going off.
you misheard Sara ...she did not say "I'll be back" she said "Ow , my back" honest mistake
I'll be.....ow! my back.
What about old Arnold?
Jetstoanywhere
I love you.
Ow, me back!
Főfasírozó that’s genius honestly
OMG the 10:14 mark that has the laugh track meme is so perfect. I was laughing before that popped on. Then I laughed harder!
I'm glad I never saw a Terminator movie after T3.
Edward Furlong has a checkered past. The filmmakers sort of did him a favor bringing him back for this film. However, they also humiliated him by killing him off without a line of dialogue. Still, he needed the money, I'm sure.
"I'll be back."
Feel free to just not.
I wont. Im never revisiting this franchise.
67% on RT ... it's okay
LINDA HAMILTON: I'll be back!
STUDIO EXECUTIVE: Only in a box-set re-release.
The Wokenator
"I'll be back."
"Yeah, well, I won't be waiting around for when you do."
so the females are good and the guy is bad? Who saw that coming in 2019?
CURRENT YEAR
@occam 5" 1' bitch who can't even hold a gun well at all, wtf were they thinking making this trash of a movie
What are you talking about? A woman was the "good guy" and a man was the "bad guy" in the first Terminator movie.
boxingjerapah females don’t fit the role of a terminator at all.
@@Mike-cg6zs sure they do... They are supposed to be nearly undetectable. Arnold never really fit the Terminator 'mold' as he stands out like a sore thumb really. If you're looking for a death machine disquised as a human... Arnold stands out as one.
There's one huge plothole in the whole concept of Terminator Dark Fate: if they didn't have to save John Connor, because in case of his death someone else will take his place as future resistance leader (Dani Ramos), why really bother to save any future leader? If terminator would kill Dani, then another resistance leader would emerge and take her place :-D
Yep - I have made exactly the same point.
This movie was not only pants, but it also undermined the very premise of the Terminator franchise - that the fate of the human race can hinge on the survival of one individual and that humanity must do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of that individual.
There is no investment in Dani, since this movie has now established that if she is killed, somebody else will just step up, just like happened with John Connor.
And vice versa, no need to fight the ai, since somebody will do that for ya anyhow
Hiya Drinker❕🥃🥃🥃🥃
Thanks for the entertaining discourse, it's a good one!
Love it when you deconstruct stuff like this cos you got Narrative Flair.
(Meaning you make the delivery fking interesting)
Enjoyed yr appraisal of Django Unhinged cos it was on point and sharp.
P.S. ma fave tipple are Lemmys ( J.Daniels+ coke)
-And Talisker chaserz.
The bad robot is the same actor in Marvel's Agents of SHIELD who plays Ghost Rider. . .
Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time"
Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse"
Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?"
Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
T2: uncontrollable screaming
The Terminator: How hard is it to write a Future War story conclusion?
@@ebi_tempura to be fair, Salvation was interesting from a narrative standpoint.
Everything before Genisys is ok in my book.
Jack Frost u gae or just unfunny?
They literally killed off anything remotely male and remade the whole Terminator franchise as femenist. John Connor dies, and the Arnold Terminator becomes an interior decorator instead of a badass biker. It's literally a joke and a huge F you to the originals.
Future Sitcom for NBC: "My Friend, The Ex-Terminator", starring old Edward Furlong, old Arnold Schwarzenegger, and an old Linda Hamilton.
@3 AM Paranormale e Horror Actually, he killed 8 Czechs and 8 Slovaks.
@Saint Q His house looked like shit!
At least they didn't get a chance to ruin Kyle Reese (Genesys probably already did that, but I refuse to waste my time on that)
Not literally a joke. That's not what literally means.
That a terminator could lead a "normal" life after completing its mission, flies in the face of what was established in T2. They're sent as "read only" by Skynet so it would only carry its program. Most probably it would've self-destructed. Dark Fate really shat on the entire Terminator franchise.
Vasquez from Aliens 2 still gives me a chub. How she got herself so ripped then looked completely different in T2 is mindblowing. Women that are real badasses are hot but when they look hot too.... Damn
Rip Terminator
James Bond - You're next.
You mean Janesha Bondawqua, you racist
Na waiting for mission impossible and 007 to be killed off by sjw's
The name is now Bland. James Bland.
He bops mean white men with a pink pillow.
Lemuria1993 Lol!
@@MrTubularBalls *Jane Bland, agent 000
John Conner is terminated less than a minute into this film, that’s all the reason any fan needs to not even bother with this and to put it bluntly it’s TLJ of the Terminator Saga.
Uh oh... that's it
woah, john connor dies. wtf, yep, as you say, why even go to see granpa termintor. ruined my day now!!! :(
There is no Terminator without John Connor.
@xXZiplockXx False. Rogue is incorrect for one reason.
No transgendered terminator in the plot line, thus making his statement/idea racist.
It's worse that you think. Non other than James Cameron has said in interviews that he HATES when sequels kill off main characters people like from previous movies for no reason. This was his response on Alien 3 when they killed off of his characters from Aliens. So, for him to approve the killing of John Conner right at the start, means he's just pissing on the fans at this point and does not give a shit as long as he gets a political correct new movie.
Of course they have to kill John off within the first couple of minutes. That's the filmmakers saying; "This is our franchise now. It's now all about girl power". They have to destroy your heroes and replace them with their own.
The T2 Arnold sacrificed himself because there was a second chip which can be used to develop SkyNet. He learned to be more human throughout the movie and at the end wanted to cry, but his body just wasn't equipped to do it. At least that's what the 11-year-old me saw in that movie and I've kept seeing it since. I'm not trying to defend this new movie, just saying the way I saw T2.
On the topic of Toxic Masculinity, it's funny that to portray a strong female said female must act like a male with a case of Super Toxicity.
The ironing is delicious 🙃
I understand that but did you watch the film? The future scene with Danni is literally laughable. I'm sorry but in no world is some soft young girl leading the human resistance against the machines.
Go back and re watch terminator 1 or 2's future was scenes and the real feel of how desperate and brutal the following years after judgment day were.
Little Danni Ramos just is not believable in that scenario I'm sorry. Not only is it not believable its highly unlikely in all reality (if this were reality) that a person like Dani would be anything remotely close to the leader of the human resistance. Just saying.
LOL yeah really!!!!! When a man acts like that he's being toxic. When a woman does it it's empowering?
“I’ll be back.”
“Part time.”
Is that a Crystal Skull reference?
I hope there's at least a refrigerator to protect generic teenage girl from androgynous thing.
Why did they go with that take? You know...the worst one?
@@Rodan16 GO AWAY NOW
Aaaaaids!!!!
For all of its many, many, *many* flaws, "Dark Fate" makes "Genysis" look like T2.
The first two she got her ass kicked and barely made it out. Sarah earned those victories but now they just passed them out.
The nick-names (e.g., "androgynous-thing," "generic-teenage-girl," "apple-genius," etc.) are perfect for conveying how little the audience care about these less-than-video-game characters.
I am so glad this movie bombed financially. They absolutely earned it.
I’d say it got terminated.
@@DaScorpionSting since you got no reply i gotchu HAHAHAH FUNNY
I greatly appreciate you stomaching the worst that Hollywood has to produce for us these days.
On the flip, you enjoy movies as much as I do & would love to hear your take on Children of Men, a movie on the very very short list of my top of all time.
It sucks that nowadays every big cinema IP is just milking the original creation to cash in on nostalgia or worse they just use it because it’s already laid the groundwork of becoming popular so the hype of its continuation pretty much runs itself along with having a massive fan base that will definitely go see it simply because it’s got the name of the original stamped on it. So, they already have a mass of fans who will pay money to see it simply because of the name. This in itself isn’t a good thing for creativity, in my opinion, because of how much the IP is already loved there less chance of real effort being put forth to make a truly provocative film.
There’s probably enough substance to this subject to make a case study about how and why everything made recently is crappy and derivative while things in the past are groundbreaking and inspiring.
Ironically Terminator 1 and 2 are how you write the evolution of a strong female character. In Terminator 1 Sarah was a damsel in distress because she was in over her head. In T2 she had 10 years of training under her belt and didn’t just use physical strength she used her mind too. Like when she used a paperclip to free herself and used a syringe of bleach to hold a hostage.
goddamn I forgot about the syringe of bleach! she actually put it in his neck!! that was so raw
Are these actors fucking conscious? I mean it! Do they realize how this egregious slop seriously diminishes their earlier work in the franchise and overall credibility?
She was mentally damaged and almost murdered an innocent. FLAWED. Hollywood can't write like this anymore. Female characters can't do any wrong and are all somehow victims and need to put down men. It's woke garbage.
Also shows the power of a mother. Maternal instinct.
@@Bootmahoy88 easy paycheck
They ruined Linda Hamilton’s long-awaited return to the franchise. That’s probably the biggest crime committed by any of these sequels since T2.
She shouldn't have ever returned. She was dead in T3. That makes her return in this, or any other movie, idiotic.
@@jimthar17 Oh yeah, forgot about that.
There you go. She didn't even look like she wanted to be there. That poor woman.
@@Vladpryde Linda Hamilton did not deserve this!
@@jimthar17 Well, to be fair, T3 actually happened in a timeline where john wasn't killed, but yeah i agree
Just subscribed to yer fookin great channel mate! Love it! But I'm back on the single-malt thanks to you, Critical Drinker!
One of my favourite authors, Neal Asher, had a script credit for this film.
I think it would have been the human hybrid's abilities being only available in short bursts/causing damage thing, that's an Asher trope.
And all this with James Cameron's blessing, let's not forget.
He began to see things he recognised, so he thought it must be $$$$$
It was probably that dump truck of money they poured on his lawn. Who needs standards when you can make money? Amiright?
Robovader Never really liked him anyways. Sure he made legendary flicks but nowadays, like Ridley Scott, don't really care much about originality or creativity and have no problem allowing their very own franchises to be butchered just to make a bit of coin
First he raised the bar in South Park, now he himself lowered it again...
He does go on to discover cameronium....so there's that
"The most important man in the history of humanity" - You know why he was killed.
Wow, the first terminator must have made you pretty furious then right? I mean, that ending is total feminist, misandrist nonsense!
This is also like the third time John Connor being killed has been used in the entire Terminator franchise. Not a new idea devised by your feminist-sjw-zombie arch-nemeses.
@@BeggarsNight How is it feminist, misandrist nonsense? It was apolitical. Just a mom doing whatever she can to keep her unborn child safe.
Something leftists wouldn't understand, since they believe murdering unborn children is a far better and virtuous idea.
WHITE MAN BAD
His long history of drug abuse and domestic issues that are a direct result of him as a child star?
@@mr.battle20 I love you, pls marry me.
I wanted to walk out when they killed John Conner but when they decided to go full-on let's pretend the greatest sci-fi of all time never happened I actually said "you bastards" out-loud in the cinema.