So I guess it's finally time to review Terminator Dark Fate. Is it the worst of the series, or a bold new beginning for a tired franchise? Let's find out.
I have a script im working on. Its about twin brothers at the start of Americas involvement in WW2. They both go to join the Army but one has epilepsy and gets left behind. After all the brave men have left for war, he is left behind with mostly women, children, the elderly. At this point when most the capable men are gone....women, including his brothers Wife, begin to dissapear.... Id love to send you the rough draft/ outline!
@Crows Wit Gaming that is a comically Terrible movie that looks awful, has hard cuts and a narrative that is nearly impossible to follow. You don't get enough backstory to understand or to bother caring what the character motivations are. The acting is hollow, like the people on screen couldn't tell.if their checks were still good, the cinematography is horrid and there is hardly ever two different people talking in one shot, it cuts every couple seconds and the laser shooty fights are almost funny if they weren't supposed to be serious. I saw the trailers and thought it looked like it had potential. I wanted, badly, to like it, but I can't. It so boring, has such abrupt transitions, is so hard to enjoy it took me three times to get through it and I have only vague memories of it. Please tell me this was an ironic endorsement and that you only wanted it shredded to tatters even worse than the staff responsible for the blight that is Jupitor Ascending left on our doorstep like a flaming bag.
The worst part was when Sarah downplayed her own role to referring to herself as just a womb to some man who saves humanity. They seem to forget what Kyle said in terminator: it was a chance to meet the legend, Sarah Connor. Taught her son to fight, organize. To prepare him when he was just a kid. When you went in hiding before the war. James Cameron must be suffering from alzeimers since he allowed this continuity error on screen. Sarah wasn't just some incubator of a messiah. She was the one that made John into a warrior with her guidance.
Well they could care less about continuity at this point,, I don't think the elites write for this movie game anymore,, what you've got is braindead uni drama grads writing it.
After reading the plot synopsis and hearing they killed John Connor [who was an interesting character in T2 and T3 as a kid and adult carrying a heavy burden on his shoulders], they could have used John as a mentor to the younger, genderbent John Conner because he would be able to help her process the emotions and mental stuff of being a savior for humanity while he, Sarah, and an Arnie Terminator protected from alternate timeline Skynet in one last hurrah before letting the franchise go to rest. That would have made for a pretty compelling story and character interaction if it had been done right. But no, we can't have anything nuanced and interesting in "current year." Oh well. Least we got T1 and T2 to enjoy with Sarah and John Connor dealing with killer robots from the future and grappling with fate itself to save humanity without anyone ever knowing it.
The truth doesn't fit their feminist agenda. Where a mother is shunned and frowned upon but an androgynous tough woman that acts like a man and a victim are idolized. It's all part of the narrative to undermine the family unit and push this androgyny/feminist agenda. Because people who have no family and see themselves as victims of toxic men are easier to control and brain wash. Divide and conquer.
The funny part is that Grace, the hybrid protector from the future pulled her power source out which ironically is still the location of the womb. So in the end, the womb still saves the day?
Yeah, back when only writers with half a brain could script a big-budget Hollywood film. Boy, I miss when movies had respect for their audiences and didn't baby us like we're idiots.
For me, I thought Terminator 3 was good AND the end of the series! It showed back then, that they could only relatively copy T2 rather than try to be original!
I like it to but its just alot of terminator 2 again getting leather clothes chase with a small vehicle vs big vehicle fight in a research center it looks the same only t2 is better
Machine versus Human war, Boogaloo America wasteland era. The humans in 2040 were led by that one general that said the famous " no fate speech" like the one in 2029 and then after that sky net was defeated. but after the 2040 no fate speech Legion Network was defeated, by this girl all grown up,
T3 wasn't a bad movie. It made sense most of all and we got to see a almost human T-800. For me works fine as the end of the series, with bombs dropping all over the place.
@@Jesus_Christ_Is_Lord77 The Special Effects in this film look like they have been done by a 5 year old. Very poorly done does not even look realistic or pleasing to the eye. Whoever gave this film a go ahead should have been sacked. Shows a lack of hard work ever went into this film, hardly any...
They should have let it end with T2. On the other hand, they had interesting comics in the 80s and 90s, that would have been better than what they made, like terminator vs robocop by frank Miller.
Edit: Just met Robert Patrick at Indiana Comic Con, showed him this comment, and he confirmed everything, adding he caught up to the dirt bike on the first take and they subsequently had to increase its speed from 13 to 15 mph. He appreciated the comments and replies and autographed my T-1000 photo with “Call to John.” I am giddy. Apparently, Robert Patrick independently trained for his role as the T-1000 to not show fatigue while running. I read somewhere he did extensive cardio on his own to build up his stamina so his character's chase scenes would look as effortless as possible. I often fall victim to looking upon the past with rose-tinted glasses, but goddammit, who does that for a role anymore?
@Guilty @@ididntaskverified3663 Christian Bale and Joaquin Phoenix were dangerously close to dying when they lost weight for their roles in The Machinist and The Joker
Henry cavill did some pretty dang hard training too for his role as Superman. Got jacked quick, definitely won’t feel good in 20 years or so though Edit: for anyone wondering, no, obviously getting jacked (even quickly) isn’t by itself going to be harmful, but the routines actors like Henry Cavill do to get properly pumped beyond normality for on screen appearances is definitely more hardcore. Not as hardcore as what bodybuilders do, but more involved than what normal guys hitting the gym are doing. Neither is this as intense as what guys like Joaquin phoenix do to get sickly and thin, but it’s something.
Basically, yes. I don't see it ending any time soon though. Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now. Emotions, motivations, relations, consistency... They all seem unimportant. I'm not sure that'll change any time soon.
@@gwenwalravens8030 "Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now." Joker: I wasn't even sure if I even existed, but I do...and people are beginning to notice.
When they were marketing this the director smugly announced that this movie would “terrify” men instantly alienating a large portion of their audience. Genius.
He knew that he made a pile of garbage, that's why he said it. Bait the trolls, then you can deflect from the quality of the film by pointing out the mean things some say. I don't think it helped his career much, but they all still use the strat and hope it works.
@@uhhuh-pq3vz a good character succeeds on their own merits, not by knee capping their opposition. You don't need to emasculate Arnold to empower Linda. Linda can be powerful without Arnold becoming a fairy princess. Now I'm reminded of something women love, a Lose-Lose situation. Take Tanya Harding having her competition, Nancy Kerrigan, attacked and crippled. Tanya goes to jail, Nancy goes to the hospital, neither compete the next day, neither win anything at all, and both of their careers are over. If that's an exclusively female trait, then keep it between the women, men don't want anything to do with that. We like Win-Win, and the con-artists and sociopaths like Win-Lose, but Lose-Lose is too irrational for men to tolerate. That's when we get alienated and walk away and let you do you. So that's what we're seeing in these movies, "hey boys, I have an idea, lets do a Lose-Lose" "No" "too late" "Damn"
Just like in "The Rise of Skywalker", he refers to Poe's one-time companion as "Strong Female Character", and the black chick who looks like Lando's granddaughter as "Diverse Female Character"! Along with Sylvester Stallone as "Rambo Imposter" in "Last Blood". LOL
Yeahhhhhhhh, I'm with you on this one too. Normally I avoid spoilers like the plague, but I had a feeling I won't be watching this one either (last one I saw was _T3_ and I was _very_ disappointed with it, back in the days before wah!!men and SJWs and even reboots were a thing), so I listened to the whole thing. Wow, I _almost_ want to start drinking.
I was going to watch it but as the day to it's release gets closer the bad reviews are coming in. Not interested in spnding big bucks for a recycled movie plot
A Man cuz I know the SJWs will fuck it up beyond repair and I rather hear a comedic take on it that can sum it in 20 minutes rather than waste my time on an hour and a half film.
The most ridiculous part of this movies is how Dani became the leader of the resistance in the future not because she shows latent talent in the present or has good leadership skills. But because she told a really motivating speech to some scavengers.
James Cameron: "I don't like Alien³ because the writers killed my characters right in the beginning" Also james Cameron: "Let's start the next Terminator movie with the murder of John Conner"
Funny how John Connor who could hack ATMs in his teens (showing his potential with machines) was replaced by an older character showing no potential or charisma as a leader.
@Char Aznable Just because too many straight white males were the heroes of most action films doesn't mean they all need to be killed off just for the females of color to steal the spotlight from them! If only the straight, white males who wrote and directed Dark Fate understood that. The RIGHT way to include women and girls of color as the heroes in new action movies is simple - write something original and do not stomp on old material! March 11, 2021, 3:08am
God I loved Vasquez in Aliens: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "No, have you?" And her delivery was just right on the money. A great character and a great performance from Jenette Goldstein.
Ahh when Hollywood let sassy female actors be themselves.....see we don't need said female actors (like that one who played She Hulk) to tell us she's cool or better than Hudson.....the banter between those two was awsome in Aliens. It's called chemistry and it was totally organic......also the other space marines were pretty good too even the ones who had small but impactful roles that we remember 37 years on. Oh and for the record....I"m a big Mackenzie Davis fan. Loved her in Halt and Catch Fire which is still a sleeper for AMC that I watched from beginning to end.
I STILL get chills during T2, when Sarah gets her first glimpse of what she thinks is the original terminator. Her response is so perfectly done- all that terror, frustration, and exhaustion in one sound and 2 seconds of action.
I rewatched it not long ago and afterwards I was angry - because it hit me just how the "get down!" scene was supposed to be a shocking plot twist, but it had been revealed well in advance that Arnold was the "good" Terminator this time.
I haven't seen that in like 15 years or more and I still remember what you are talking about. That was masterful. She has been a mental patient for years, with deep trauma and stress disorders, told she is insane every day and made to doubt herself, with nothing but her memories of the horror she experienced, which she is made to doubt and wonder if are even real even as they torment her and give her nightmares and flashbacks. Only to have the face of her nightmares come around a corner and look into her eyes, right in the middle of stressful situation. She is falling into her nightmares and her mind is on the verge of utterly breaking in terror and shock, and helplessness, not sure if it's real, but totally aware that if it is there is absolutely no way for her to save herself and no one can help her, she is trapped and can only recoil in horror. I was like 15 and I saw all that. That's pretty good for a few seconds of screentime.
It’s bizarre that the filmmakers seemed to think that they needed to remake/reimagine Terminator as female-centric when the original two already *were* female-centric; Sarah Conner was the clear protagonist and is the reason why the good guys win in both movies. So obviously the new filmmakers just had a problem with the concept of her doing things for the sake of someone else, namely protecting her child. Wow, what an awful motive for a character.....
Even worse, they bashed her and minimized her by saying “she was just a womb”, but don’t worry our new plain and boring character is better than that, she’s a leader! We don’t show that in the movie but believe us she’s a leader!
Just like Star Wars. Remember Princess Leia? the determined smart and ruthless leader of the rebelion? Nah, she was just a bimbo, Mary Sue is a much better character, so much that we don't even care to explain her background, parents, origins or anything resembling a character.
In current timeline, cis white heterosexual man is worse than Skynet. Just because. I hope another Terminator will travel back to this timeline and reset it to make some sense again :-D
I like "T3" even more now. Has the best action scenes, best FX that now, the main theme of Blue Man Group with Gavin Rossdale and the best ending. It has some objectionable things, but they are not very important. The issue with Sarah's death was because Linda was not interested in participating and Edward Furlong was having drug problems.
I'd truly be unable to imagine a terminator more dangerous than T1000. He was a legitimately scary, and had an amazing way about with the way he interacts with people not on his kill list. He shown charisma in talking to bystanders, but the second he spots the target, he just tears after them.
But I love how even when he’s showing that charisma, something still seems a little bit off but you can’t quite put your finger it. Just an incredible performance.
He was the best villain but less leathal than an older model with a gatling gun. This is in no way an endorsement of Terminator Salvation the worst movie in the series
I remember back in the day when the terminators actually had to do some detective work and seek out weapons and stuff. Now they're just cartoon characters.
Yeah. Such a poor writing in these new movies. Back in the day, people created movies with passion. They were exploring new things and ideas. Today, they just copy and paste everything. No passion. Plus they are pushing this horrible gender agenda. Yuck.
"We made this movie so that people can see that there can be strong female heroes that everyone can like." They completely forgot that we already had strong female heroes for some 40 years. Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor that are the most loved action heroes of all time. Ripley is my personal favorite action hero off all time.
Also, as we moved into the middle era of those, and into the next, we got new franchises that brought about some who may also have messy franchises, but flawed doesn't mean bad automatically. Such as there's lots of great to be found in the Underworld Franchise, and Kate Beckinsale's Selene was and has always been great. While there's some depth but less effort put in, Alice played my Milla Jovovich of Resident Evil also was there. Heck, Marvel's own Black Widow (not Captain Woke). Now we got...Batwoman.
I love Selene from the Underworld franchise and Lara Croft. They prove that you can be strong female character that is loved by the audience without having to give up their femininity. You don't have to be a man's substitute to be a great character
I turned this movie on, watched the first ten minutes and shut it off. Killing the main character for the single purpose of replacing him with a female version of him is the worst writing I’ve ever heard.
I did the same thing. If you saw any of the earlier movies, how could you keep watching this (crap)!? We were the lucky ones. If you kept watching it, I bet you regret it lol.
@@Zarbon000 yall weren't lucky if you even so much as wasted the effort of pirating that dumpster fire(godforbid you paid lol.) The lucky ones are the ones who found out it released about a year or so after and saw the clips from TH-cam lmao
I understand that but did you watch the film? The future scene with Danni is literally laughable. I'm sorry but in no world is some soft young girl leading the human resistance against the machines. Go back and re watch terminator 1 or 2's future was scenes and the real feel of how desperate and brutal the following years after judgment day were. Little Danni Ramos just is not believable in that scenario I'm sorry. Not only is it not believable its highly unlikely in all reality (if this were reality) that a person like Dani would be anything remotely close to the leader of the human resistance. Just saying.
The only thing I really remember from the movie was my anger at the line where Androgynous Thing says "Dani, you are not just the mother of some man who saves the future". Within the movie it completely undermines Sarah Connor as a character by suggesting that her only contribution to altering the future was accidentally getting pregnant, while at the same time, in real life it shows an appalling level of disrespect to Linda Hamilton's decades of dedication to the franchise.
And correct me if I am wrong, isn't this said while Linda / Sarah is sitting right there? Totally spits in her face figuratively and literally. Who the fuck cares if shes just the mother of the future hero. She essentially fights a Terminator and later teaches John everything she knows. Fuck this film .
@ X XXX Yes. Besides Dark Fate being basically a T1/T2 reboot, your comment hit another nail on the head. How could they so callously belittle Sarah Connor/Linda Hamilton as though she really hadn't been that important. Just one more of the many reasons to hate it.
@@zom8680 - Yeah, she's right there in the scene. Imagine not just having to read it in the script and see it in the movie, but also having to stand there for numerous takes of being insulted.
All I was thinking was “so do I bitch she ain’t special.” Yeah let’s send a drug addict lesbian back in time to defend us in a broken timeline where every Overpowered enemy was made of liquid metal but sure let’s keep sending back outdated models. I think they did this so that the T-DYK3 didn’t seem too overpowered as a protagonist but they failed that. Also Sarah Connor seemed almost displaced in the entire movie. She never felt like she was a major part of the movie.
Ironically Terminator 1 and 2 are how you write the evolution of a strong female character. In Terminator 1 Sarah was a damsel in distress because she was in over her head. In T2 she had 10 years of training under her belt and didn’t just use physical strength she used her mind too. Like when she used a paperclip to free herself and used a syringe of bleach to hold a hostage.
Are these actors fucking conscious? I mean it! Do they realize how this egregious slop seriously diminishes their earlier work in the franchise and overall credibility?
She was mentally damaged and almost murdered an innocent. FLAWED. Hollywood can't write like this anymore. Female characters can't do any wrong and are all somehow victims and need to put down men. It's woke garbage.
The nick-names (e.g., "androgynous-thing," "generic-teenage-girl," "apple-genius," etc.) are perfect for conveying how little the audience care about these less-than-video-game characters.
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yes, handling John Connor that way - especially using young Edward Furlong, the way we remember him through all the thrills and suspense of T2! - was majorly stupid, and disrespectful I'll add. What's more, the killing wasn't nearly earned: There was no chase, no set up... just *BLAM* take that, audience! Like a giant middle finger.
For all intents and purposes they DID kill off Luke Skywalker (by making him a quitter and a loser) in the name of Wokeness (since you aren't allowed to have a cisgender white male protagonist anymore), along with the ancient Jedi temple/library, and then Luke used the Force to commit suicide and just evaporate at the end. Like Kylo Ren tells Rey to do, "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." Disgusting.
Wow, the first terminator must have made you pretty furious then right? I mean, that ending is total feminist, misandrist nonsense! This is also like the third time John Connor being killed has been used in the entire Terminator franchise. Not a new idea devised by your feminist-sjw-zombie arch-nemeses.
@@BeggarsNight How is it feminist, misandrist nonsense? It was apolitical. Just a mom doing whatever she can to keep her unborn child safe. Something leftists wouldn't understand, since they believe murdering unborn children is a far better and virtuous idea.
So in the two attempts at re-boots, they have John be the main villain of one and killed him off as a kid in the other....jeez I wonder why they failed
@@srikrishna2561 if they didn’t tell people in the trailer that John became a machine and even cut the beginning scene out where he was attacked when Kyle was sent back, it would been a good shock to the audience when he showed up and is revealed as a machine.
@@srikrishna2561 How you reveal a bad guy, is just as important as how your bad guy is portrayed in the rest of the film. Thanos is a good example of a strong introduction, paired with a really good portrayal. Ultron is a good example of a strong introduction, but a poor portrayal throughout the rest of the movie.
I finally watched this, as it was free on Film 4. It was awful as I was expecting, but that scene where they find Arnie, enjoying a ball game with a beer?! I was like: "oh right, this is a comedy?" I didn't even make it to the end of the film. I gave up when they were driving that air tight Hummer round underwater. FFS.
The feminist agenda in this movie disgusts me. There's a line by Grace when she's telling Dani "you're not the mother of some man who saves us" - yeah because that was such a terrible thing in the original Terminator movie wasn't it!
Agreed. The worst part about it is that Sara Conner WASN'T just the mother of the man that led the resistance. She wasn't the leader of the resistance. For years she WAS the fucking resistance. She was fighting the war solo. And at the end of Terminator 2 it became clear that she didn't give birth to the leader of a resistance. She saved her son from ever having to take that burden to begin with. To give away your life, your happiness, your very sanity, to save a world that has condemned you because it was the right thing to do? To spare your child a terrible burden and give him a chance to live a normal life? That is a powerful female character that's not easily matched. But Hollywood had to fucking Hollywood and ruin it all. There never should of been a sequel to T2. Ever.
If anything that ought to empower women, knowing without them, a generation of competent men and soldiers cant be brought forward. Yes it’s a risk because of all the pain and death of war, but any woman who is told their son is the non-biblical saviour of humanity itself, will have understandable and believable cause to become a soldier and a fighter. Feminists these days believe that simply being a woman is enough to empower, but you’ve got no philosophical or physical basis to build yourself on other than chromosomes and sex organs - of which femininity tried to depose before being hijacked. It’s about purpose and carrying on in a state where humanity is literally at the receiving end of domination and annihilation. Regardless of gender, whoever rises to that fight, no matter the consequence, is someone to look to.
@Patrick Sylvia It's not "just a movie" ya bloody normie! Ever hear of propaganda? Just like academia and politics, radical feminists like Kathleen Kennedy have infiltrated Hollywood via gender quotas and have destroyed and emasculated strong male heroes. I highly doubt you're a man "Patrick", as you're using the same ad hominem shaming tactics a woman would.
This people are pitiful and pathetic. They want anger but to be honest why would we be? they are so bad its best to just ignore the c**ts at this point.
I still can't believe how they've managed to destroy such a badass universe of movie potential they had here. First 2 movies were perfect, after that, WTF happened again and again.
John Conner is terminated less than a minute into this film, that’s all the reason any fan needs to not even bother with this and to put it bluntly it’s TLJ of the Terminator Saga.
It's worse that you think. Non other than James Cameron has said in interviews that he HATES when sequels kill off main characters people like from previous movies for no reason. This was his response on Alien 3 when they killed off of his characters from Aliens. So, for him to approve the killing of John Conner right at the start, means he's just pissing on the fans at this point and does not give a shit as long as he gets a political correct new movie.
They should have turned all the vehicles into tricked out low riders then had them go off road and get stuck in a wash. ...La cucaracha horns going off.
The funny thing to me is that it's actually an insult to women that producers feel the need to *FORCE* a "strong female" presence when it should just come naturally depending on the film. The "strong female lead" has been done really well since the beginning of time... in the same franchise no less, and some of the best characters of all time are female. These clowns just don't get it.
One of our reviewers called it "Feminator" for the strong female characters. Also, teaching the John Connor replacement girl to shoot was hilarious. "It is all in your mind".
Robert Patrick's terminator scared the crap out of me when I first seen him. I never knew who would be killed because Patrick was just so intimidating. He played an amazing part. Oh man the good old days...
I thought the original Terminator going after Sarah Conner was pretty intimidating. That thing wasn't particularly "bondy" with humans and also posed to be a disruptive issue for the also intimidated waitress.
That's because people loved them for all the wrong reasons. So it's not enough to simply ignore the reasons people loved the classics, then go on to do your own "new, improved" thing. You have to make a major point of shitting all over the things people loved about the originals. Because only then will people realize that their love for those classics was misplaced and hail your genius pointing out to them what they should have known all along.
Terminator is the only franchise that’s had a trilogy of trilogies cancelled. Salvation was part 1 of a planned trilogy. Cancelled. Genesis was part 1 of a planned trilogy. Cancelled. Dark fate was part 1 of a planned trilogy. All cancelled. That’s genuinely impressive.
Robovader Never really liked him anyways. Sure he made legendary flicks but nowadays, like Ridley Scott, don't really care much about originality or creativity and have no problem allowing their very own franchises to be butchered just to make a bit of coin
@smakfu Well, he NEVER made an original movie to begin with. He made some nice flicks in the long ago past (Aliens and Terminator, basically, though he never sunk to Holland Emerich levels, I give him that), but all his movies are rippoffs of something. I wouldn't mind (I don't think ripoffs are necessarily bad things) if he only acknowledged them for what they are. Aliens is a ripoff of several war movies mixed with cheap horror moves that completely removes all that was actually good, scary and suspenseful about the original movie. Terminator rode the wave of 80s horror/sci-fi movies, otherwise I doubt it would be remembered to this day. And those are his good movies.
100%. They could've ended it at T2 with the "no fate but what we make it", and it would've been great. I could even accept T3 with the "some things are inevitable [judgement day], and we need to make the best of it" being an ending, despite the beginning of the decline in quality. But no, they just had to keep pumping them out.
Robert Patrick's portrayal of the T-1000 was flawless but it is a myth that the T-1000 never blinked. He actually blinks in 2 scenes. The first is when he is questioning the foster parents and the second is when says "say, that's a nice bike" after the Pescadero break-out. He is trying to be as human as possible in those scenes so there is a reason for it. That's me just being a nerd, lol.
When I found out Edward Furlong was coming back to play John Connor and that Linda Hamilton would be in it, I was stoked. When I found out what happens to John and that it happens in the very beginning of the movie, I just could not bring myself to watch it. For me, there's Terminator 1 and Terminator 2: Judgement Day, and that's it!
This franchise should have been left alone after Judgement Day. The only good thing that came out of continuing it was Christian Bale's tantrum on Salvation set.
B briggs A DP fucked up repeatedly on set when he continuously walked right into the shot as they were filming Salvation, and Christian Bale began cursing the fuck outta him.
Similarly (and perhaps ironically) I am met with a loss of how to respond anymore to Capcom. Namely for the MegaMan franchise. They told us nearly a decade ago it was dead...and now they are trying to revive it for as much as they can keep milking the formula. So it isn't dead, it isn't alive, it isn't relevant, but it's still getting sold. Their recent installation of Dive...nice concept but the tacky dialogue is god awful. I want for Saw 9 to be good but...from everything I hear it will get rid of everything familiar except the visceral mechanical killing and NOT be part of the canonical story. At this point my mind is so full of fuck.
Terminator 3 was always underrated. It was always going to look bad because it directly followed T2, but unlike literally every other Terminator that came after it, it actually accomplished what it tried to do, and was a sequel that made sense continuing the timeline of the Terminator, without insulting the older movies. Sarah Connor lived a full life and died peacefully, John tried to move on and believe that Judgment Day had been averted, but in the end was plagued with that same paranoia his mother had, and the set up for the plot made a bit more sense to explain how a third Terminator could go back. Best of all, it set things up so that they could go into the war with Skynet without needing to come up with more excuses for time travel, as the war with the machines would be interesting on its own. T4 *tried* to be a sequel that built off of that foundation...but utterly failed in doing what it set out to do, dooming the franchise to hackneyed reboot attempts.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I agree - Terminator 3 had it flaws and issues, but it was a solidly average movie. It wasn't the A+ rollercoaster of it's progenitors, so it compared badly and got a lot of stick it only kind of deserved. It takes a long time to get going, some of the action sequences are much longer than they needed to be, the T-X terminator could never have lived up to the terrifying T-1000 in either concept or Patrick's stunningly understated execution. The first half of the movie is formulaic and predictable, but then half way through the script starts to play with your assumptions and expectations, subtle hints lead to not-so-subtle hints about how this is all going to go down, and then the movie pulls another switcheroo on you right at the end - an ending that pulls the movie up from an uneven mess to a clumsily-executed but eventually intelligent story. No, it's not a masterpiece, not by a long shot. Compared to the rest of Terminator franchise, it's firmly on the right side of good-enough.
@@stoneymahoney9106 Honestly, I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. T3 wasn't a blockbuster masterpiece like T1 and T2 are considered, so it was always not going to hold up by comparison, but it was very solid and an important transition movie to move into a different style that would no longer require rehashing 'and then another terminator was sent back somehow'. T4 didn't know WHAT it wanted to do - since they swapped out the ending at the last minute - and every other one since then has tried to be a reboot and failed horribly.
The 'Kick Ass Marine" actress (Janette Goldstein) given as an example of how to play a strong female character (Vasquez in Aliens) just so happened to also be in Terminator 2 as John's Adoptive Mum.
Fun Fact: Linda Hamilton didn’t know the camera was rolling when she said she’ll be back. In actuality she was just going to the craft service table to get a bagel. They just edited out the part where she asked if anyone else wanted anything and kept the part when she said she’ll be back
😂😂😂 I don't think we need to be empowered by fictional characters when there's thousands of real life females, dealing with real life problems and solving them not thanks to luck and unrealistic script but work and dedication. I personally don't care about characters gender, everyone can be inspired or impressed by positive actions of someone. No matter their skin color, age or sex.
When you try that hard to be woke; it ain't woke. Terminator 1 and 2 were woke without even trying, before the concept even existed. Sarah Connor was badass all the way through, without any agenda pushing or man-bashing. That's what "woke" movies should aim for, not... this.
I've seen the original Terminator movie so many times that I could tell just by the electricity surge noise of the T-800 being crushed by Sarah Conner in the clip at the end of the video, that it was the remastered movie clip as opposed to the original. I loved Terminator 1, 2, and found the third installment tolerable because I liked the end. Judgment Day being inevitable and Arnold leading John Conner to a safe bunker to ride out the nuclear war without him knowing was a great twist in my opinion. Everything since has been trash. I had high hopes for Salvation as it took place during the war and Christian Bale playing John Conner seemed like a plus. That plot set up was the movie I wanted to see made since I was a kid who saw Terminator 2 in the theater. I was legitimately pissed off leaving the theater after Salvation, what a fucking dud. Now we get gender fluid terminators and southern border allegory. What a nonsensical cash grab this franchise has become.
T1 is a perfect story and can only be hurt by more exposition. T2 is only good because Cameron had total control of the project. The rest are crap because of Rule #1.
I didn't get to see how it played out, but I was pretty happy with the first part of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. There was just one continuity error that bugged me, the head of the Terminator going forward in time with them. It's well established from the first movie that only living things can go through the portal.
Every female characters in this movie seem to try hard on looking and acting bad ass than being personable and relatable. Seems to be the trend with all the female led movies these days.
It came up on autoplay after that, lol. I'm on a 'tearing apart shit movies I was wise enough to avoid the first time' review marathon, and considering I am both an experienced cinephile and a virgin to Rocky movies, this could go on for days 🍿
@@MoserB73 sure they do... They are supposed to be nearly undetectable. Arnold never really fit the Terminator 'mold' as he stands out like a sore thumb really. If you're looking for a death machine disquised as a human... Arnold stands out as one.
Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time" Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse" Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?" Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
My favorite part of the movie is how the transport plane is broken into two pieces (with very different trajectories), a vehicle falls out (with a parachute), and a couple of terminators. Despite traveling across a vast area at great speed, not only do all of the parts/contents of the plane happen to land within 100 yards of each other, but they happen to land on the Hoover Dam.... Not just near the Hoover Dam, but actually the parachuted Humvee lands directly on the Hoover Dam (pretty much dead center on the span as well). I'm willing to give some leeway and suspend my disbelief to some degree, but this is about the most distracting sequence since the Fast and the Furious 6's endless runway fight where the sequence rolled out at very high speeds for 13+ minutes. That's one, very long, straight runway. Over 5 times the longest runway in the world. It's amazing how really bad this movie is, even from a mindless action movie aspect.
Lmao!!! So true! They should have just stuck the first attempt of Salvation, because as time went on during these, we would have finally gotten the actual looking future war film that we have been wanting since T2!!! Also the tired formula of sending a Terminator and a protector back in time, would have been OVER!!!
Salvation did set up a good premise that should have been expanded upon in later films. It wasn't a bad film as many have pointed out, it was just incomplete. By now we would have been at the epoch of the series where we would have gotten an epic future war and final showdown with skynet, but naa, fuck it, lets just keep doing the same old shtick. Has nobody learned from the mcu? Just listen to the fans and give them what they want dammit! Why am I getting a cold shiver down my back thinking about Ghostbusters 3 now? Please God don't let that happen! Please!!!
When I heard that John Connor dies in the first 5 minutes of this movie, I adamantly refused to believe it. You would think that after the disaster that was Alien3, filmmakers would learn their lesson about killing beloved characters from a previous movie before the next one even starts. Hell, James Cameron himself was livid about that back in the day! But nope! Also, I always assumed that a Terminator would just self-destruct after completing its mission, but whatever.
Especially as it was stated in T2 that they have to be altered by a third party before they can learn new things like smiling. The TV series had a good take. A terminator completed a mission to get supplies, then locked itself away in hibernation, awaiting the time it should rejoin the war.
The ironic thing is that James Cameron actually said how disappointed he was when Vincent Ward had Newt and Hicks killed. Cameron basically pulled the biggest bruh moment of 2019.
@@Rodan16 I suppose it is, but the fact that the movie kills off Newt and Hicks immediately without any sort of goodbye completely squandered any chance I had of liking it.
Feminists don't want to be treated like men, they want special privileges, and to be held in higher regard than men. In other words, it's not equality at all. It's toxic and immoral elitism.
@@lordkrythic6246 Yes, but he mean it as excuse of their actions (I guess). Also: feminist are not thought-independent at all (they more like bunch angry little brats who hates their daddy/boyfriend/husband). They are a wing of destructive marksizm. You unleash them with socialists and gender minorities, and they wrec havoc, till normality is broken... then you take over and nobody complains (they just want you to fix this: and leave your children). History repeats itself: checkout how Stalin broke Russians + other nations around it, and created USSR - workers paradise. Movies and Hollywood is just a way of spirit breaking propaganda, you see same patter over and over again, and you thin its normal.... try to explain that to people watching these movies without questioning. I think I will copy that as independent comment.
I love how you kept showing clips from the other Terminator movies that mirrored Dark Fate, but were so much better!!! I was laughing so hard at that!!!
It’s beyond cringe, I can’t take it. So glad i watched spoilers before wasting my time. Injecting Arnold this way, just for cheap nostalgia and nothing else is laughable. He’s too old and out of shape to portray the character in any meaningful way. I think 1984 Terminator was the best. The combination of sci fi, noir and even horror. It was dark, gritty and intense. I’ll never forget the scene in the 1984 Terminator when the Terminator first appeared. It was dark, magical and foreboding .Compare that to the current Arnold in this film. 😖 The idea of a Terminator taking on civilian family life destroys what we’ve learned about them. “He can’t be bargained with, he can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel remorse, or pity or fear, and he absolutely will not stop, until you are dead.”
@@brosephh7130 They can't be bargain with they can't be reasoned with they don't feel pity or remorse or fear and the absolutely will not stop ever until you're dead
Yeah, it's a scary world when 13 year olds look like their 30, and 30 year olds look like their 13. I miss the good old days of just having kids be kids in movies. Yeah, they were terrible at acting, but at least it felt like they were kids.
Cameron has very good instincts but he's a gambler (meaning his style is that he doesn't know how to not take huge risks) and he paints with bold colors. When he does that and it works, it works extremely well and he comes off as a genius. But sooner or later, risk taking comes back to bite you.
@@google_must_die Eh, debatable. At least Genisys tried to bring something new and had some spin to the plot. This one is just a worse remake of the first three movies. The biggest plot twist of Dark Fate is that the whole plot doesn't revolve around John Connor but instead around Jane Connor. Scratch that. The biggest plot twist is that James Cameron forgot how to write a story.
Salvation was bad. But I’ll give it credit for attempting a movie about the Future War. And the casting choice for young Kyle Reese was phenomenal. R.I.P. Anton Yelchin.
(Rejected) alternate titles: Terminator: Inclusivity Festival Terminator: Border Enforcement Terminator: We're So Old Now Terminator: Generic Adventure Terminator: The Search For More Money Terminator: Sarah Connor Is Now Your Mum Terminator: I Used To Know This Really Hot Club Called Technoir Man I Miss The 80's Terminator: Magical Mystery Retcon Tour Terminator: Robots Need Love, Too Terminator: No Fate -But What We Make- Terminator: War Never Changes Terminator: It's All Fucking Pointless
wow. Gladi I didn't waste my time on that one. Funny you mentioned Jenette Goldstein as "Vasquez" in "Aliens." i was surprised to find that she also played John's mother in T2.
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Why won’t you write your own manuscript and try to make your own movie?
The Critical Drinker remade this to “Terminator Dark Fate Review: Don’t Know”
The Critical Drinker please don’t ever stop reviewing bad films, you make things that are horribly unentertaining the highlight of my day.
I have a script im working on. Its about twin brothers at the start of Americas involvement in WW2. They both go to join the Army but one has epilepsy and gets left behind. After all the brave men have left for war, he is left behind with mostly women, children, the elderly. At this point when most the capable men are gone....women, including his brothers Wife, begin to dissapear.... Id love to send you the rough draft/ outline!
@Crows Wit Gaming that is a comically Terrible movie that looks awful, has hard cuts and a narrative that is nearly impossible to follow. You don't get enough backstory to understand or to bother caring what the character motivations are. The acting is hollow, like the people on screen couldn't tell.if their checks were still good, the cinematography is horrid and there is hardly ever two different people talking in one shot, it cuts every couple seconds and the laser shooty fights are almost funny if they weren't supposed to be serious. I saw the trailers and thought it looked like it had potential. I wanted, badly, to like it, but I can't. It so boring, has such abrupt transitions, is so hard to enjoy it took me three times to get through it and I have only vague memories of it. Please tell me this was an ironic endorsement and that you only wanted it shredded to tatters even worse than the staff responsible for the blight that is Jupitor Ascending left on our doorstep like a flaming bag.
The worst part was when Sarah downplayed her own role to referring to herself as just a womb to some man who saves humanity. They seem to forget what Kyle said in terminator: it was a chance to meet the legend, Sarah Connor. Taught her son to fight, organize. To prepare him when he was just a kid. When you went in hiding before the war.
James Cameron must be suffering from alzeimers since he allowed this continuity error on screen. Sarah wasn't just some incubator of a messiah. She was the one that made John into a warrior with her guidance.
Well they could care less about continuity at this point,, I don't think the elites write for this movie game anymore,, what you've got is braindead uni drama grads writing it.
After reading the plot synopsis and hearing they killed John Connor [who was an interesting character in T2 and T3 as a kid and adult carrying a heavy burden on his shoulders], they could have used John as a mentor to the younger, genderbent John Conner because he would be able to help her process the emotions and mental stuff of being a savior for humanity while he, Sarah, and an Arnie Terminator protected from alternate timeline Skynet in one last hurrah before letting the franchise go to rest. That would have made for a pretty compelling story and character interaction if it had been done right. But no, we can't have anything nuanced and interesting in "current year." Oh well. Least we got T1 and T2 to enjoy with Sarah and John Connor dealing with killer robots from the future and grappling with fate itself to save humanity without anyone ever knowing it.
The truth doesn't fit their feminist agenda. Where a mother is shunned and frowned upon but an androgynous tough woman that acts like a man and a victim are idolized. It's all part of the narrative to undermine the family unit and push this androgyny/feminist agenda. Because people who have no family and see themselves as victims of toxic men are easier to control and brain wash. Divide and conquer.
The funny part is that Grace, the hybrid protector from the future pulled her power source out which ironically is still the location of the womb. So in the end, the womb still saves the day?
Well since John died young and that time line was wiped there was no her becoming a legend in anyone's mind in the future
Sarah Connor never said, "I'm gonna stand and fight!" as an indicator of her character arc. Didn't have to.
Yeah, back when only writers with half a brain could script a big-budget Hollywood film.
Boy, I miss when movies had respect for their audiences and didn't baby us like we're idiots.
On your feed soldier was much better
@@606danco That, and "You're terminated, fucker!"
OpenMawProductions that was also a great line
Sarah Conner was shown, on screen, which is the point of a movie, standing, and fighting.
All of a sudden, Terminator 3 doesn't seem like such a bad movie...
For me, I thought Terminator 3 was good AND the end of the series! It showed back then, that they could only relatively copy T2 rather than try to be original!
I like it to but its just alot of terminator 2 again getting leather clothes chase with a small vehicle vs big vehicle fight in a research center it looks the same only t2 is better
All of the sequels look good in comparison to this garbage. And Terminator 3 was never bad per say, just poorly executed.
Machine versus Human war, Boogaloo America wasteland era.
The humans in 2040 were led by that one general that said the famous " no fate speech" like the one in 2029 and then after that sky net was defeated. but after the 2040 no fate speech Legion Network was defeated, by this girl all grown up,
T3 wasn't a bad movie. It made sense most of all and we got to see a almost human T-800. For me works fine as the end of the series, with bombs dropping all over the place.
Sarah Connor; "I'll be back"
Terminator Fans; "We won't!*
I won’t either
@@Jesus_Christ_Is_Lord77 The Special Effects in this film look like they have been done by a 5 year old. Very poorly done does not even look realistic or pleasing to the eye. Whoever gave this film a go ahead should have been sacked. Shows a lack of hard work ever went into this film, hardly any...
They should have let it end with T2. On the other hand, they had interesting comics in the 80s and 90s, that would have been better than what they made, like terminator vs robocop by frank Miller.
I wonder how many times they can bring back Arnold as an old reprogrammed daddy Terminator. Twice so far
🤣🤣🤣
Edit: Just met Robert Patrick at Indiana Comic Con, showed him this comment, and he confirmed everything, adding he caught up to the dirt bike on the first take and they subsequently had to increase its speed from 13 to 15 mph. He appreciated the comments and replies and autographed my T-1000 photo with “Call to John.” I am giddy.
Apparently, Robert Patrick independently trained for his role as the T-1000 to not show fatigue while running. I read somewhere he did extensive cardio on his own to build up his stamina so his character's chase scenes would look as effortless as possible. I often fall victim to looking upon the past with rose-tinted glasses, but goddammit, who does that for a role anymore?
He also trained himself not to flinch while firing a gun
The joker
@Guilty
@@ididntaskverified3663
Christian Bale and Joaquin Phoenix were dangerously close to dying when they lost weight for their roles in The Machinist and The Joker
Henry cavill did some pretty dang hard training too for his role as Superman. Got jacked quick, definitely won’t feel good in 20 years or so though
Edit: for anyone wondering, no, obviously getting jacked (even quickly) isn’t by itself going to be harmful, but the routines actors like Henry Cavill do to get properly pumped beyond normality for on screen appearances is definitely more hardcore. Not as hardcore as what bodybuilders do, but more involved than what normal guys hitting the gym are doing. Neither is this as intense as what guys like Joaquin phoenix do to get sickly and thin, but it’s something.
The T1000 running was always ominous looking, like when he could almost catch John while he was on a motorcycle
So is 2019 the 'destroy every franchise ever' year?
Godzilla was good.
Basically, yes. I don't see it ending any time soon though. Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now. Emotions, motivations, relations, consistency... They all seem unimportant. I'm not sure that'll change any time soon.
@@gwenwalravens8030 "Hollywood has been unable to write decent characters for a few years now."
Joker: I wasn't even sure if I even existed, but I do...and people are beginning to notice.
Godzilla and Joker were good.
If you put Joker into the Batman franchise and not a franchise of its own.
It's been going on for years. Start Trek, dead. Star Wars, dead. Doctor Who, dead. Ghostbusters, dead. They even murdered The Lion King.
Terminator, Predator, Aliens, Star Wars, Ghostbusters....remember the fallen.
The last of us.
The last of us part 2
Star trek and doctor who
The walking dead. Season 9 and 10. SJW probaganda.
Dont forget james bond and jurassic park 🤦🏻♂️
When they were marketing this the director smugly announced that this movie would “terrify” men instantly alienating a large portion of their audience. Genius.
He knew that he made a pile of garbage, that's why he said it.
Bait the trolls, then you can deflect from the quality of the film by pointing out the mean things some say. I don't think it helped his career much, but they all still use the strat and hope it works.
😢
Kinda like when movies boil female characters down to hot female lead or love interest, alienating half of the audience.
@@uhhuh-pq3vz a good character succeeds on their own merits, not by knee capping their opposition. You don't need to emasculate Arnold to empower Linda. Linda can be powerful without Arnold becoming a fairy princess. Now I'm reminded of something women love, a Lose-Lose situation. Take Tanya Harding having her competition, Nancy Kerrigan, attacked and crippled. Tanya goes to jail, Nancy goes to the hospital, neither compete the next day, neither win anything at all, and both of their careers are over. If that's an exclusively female trait, then keep it between the women, men don't want anything to do with that. We like Win-Win, and the con-artists and sociopaths like Win-Lose, but Lose-Lose is too irrational for men to tolerate. That's when we get alienated and walk away and let you do you. So that's what we're seeing in these movies, "hey boys, I have an idea, lets do a Lose-Lose" "No" "too late" "Damn"
I love how he never calls the characters by their names.
That probably explains how memorable they all are.
"......Generic teenage girl and androgynous thing..."
Lmfao!
dont forget "Apple Genius"
@@rendyajadech1957 How did he come up with the term "Apple Genius"?
Just like in "The Rise of Skywalker", he refers to Poe's one-time companion as "Strong Female Character", and the black chick who looks like Lando's granddaughter as "Diverse Female Character"!
Along with Sylvester Stallone as "Rambo Imposter" in "Last Blood". LOL
"There's gonna be spoilers."
Can't spoil what's already rotten.
S.A.M. That is hilarious
LOL
Oooooh I’m not Tim Miller and even I felt that burn 🔥🔥🔥
hey, you stole that from Doomcock!
@@wilemelliott
Is that some sort of Doom-themed pornstar? Sorry, I've never heard of him.
“Don’t Watch if you don’t want spoilers.”
Nah I’m good man, go ahead, don’t wanna watch the actual film anyway.
Yeahhhhhhhh, I'm with you on this one too. Normally I avoid spoilers like the plague, but I had a feeling I won't be watching this one either (last one I saw was _T3_ and I was _very_ disappointed with it, back in the days before wah!!men and SJWs and even reboots were a thing), so I listened to the whole thing.
Wow, I _almost_ want to start drinking.
Same
Same. I'll still watch the movie, it's not like anything unpredictable is going to happen. The trailers have already spoiled much of the movie anyway.
I was going to watch it but as the day to it's release gets closer the bad reviews are coming in. Not interested in spnding big bucks for a recycled movie plot
A Man cuz I know the SJWs will fuck it up beyond repair and I rather hear a comedic take on it that can sum it in 20 minutes rather than waste my time on an hour and a half film.
The most ridiculous part of this movies is how Dani became the leader of the resistance in the future not because she shows latent talent in the present or has good leadership skills. But because she told a really motivating speech to some scavengers.
Don't forget the fact she's a she. That's probably 99% of it, at least for the writers.
By that standard any High School football coach could be the new messiah
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539no, because they’re men.
Liberal LGBTQ feminist Hollywood movie writers
James Cameron: "I don't like Alien³ because the writers killed my characters right in the beginning"
Also james Cameron: "Let's start the next Terminator movie with the murder of John Conner"
Why did you write Alien 3 as Alien to the power of 3? :p
@@1nc0gn120 because thats the actual title
I liked alien 3, it was ok.
All Cameron thinks about now is how the hell he is gonna sell people friggin 4 Avatar movies. I see you James.
James Cameron is just a money grubbing phony
Funny how John Connor who could hack ATMs in his teens (showing his potential with machines) was replaced by an older character showing no potential or charisma as a leader.
Charisma vacuum.
“Stand and fight!!! “😫 🤭😂🤣
She works with machines, so, she's... something, surely.
Nah, there is no agenda here ...LOL. Hollywood sucks...
yea but women
When they killed John Connor you know its gonna sucks so hard.
@Char Aznable Sadly.
Especially when its been built up to be the end of humanity, then instead just causes someone else to autofill in as the saviour
@Char Aznable Just because too many straight white males were the heroes of most action films doesn't mean they all need to be killed off just for the females of color to steal the spotlight from them! If only the straight, white males who wrote and directed Dark Fate understood that. The RIGHT way to include women and girls of color as the heroes in new action movies is simple - write something original and do not stomp on old material! March 11, 2021, 3:08am
When I saw that I avoided this movie like the plague
Real Spill
God I loved Vasquez in Aliens: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "No, have you?" And her delivery was just right on the money. A great character and a great performance from Jenette Goldstein.
I never realised for years she was in t2
What does that have to do with this
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 vasquez was mentioned in the vid. And woman who played her was in the film
Ahh when Hollywood let sassy female actors be themselves.....see we don't need said female actors (like that one who played She Hulk) to tell us she's cool or better than Hudson.....the banter between those two was awsome in Aliens. It's called chemistry and it was totally organic......also the other space marines were pretty good too even the ones who had small but impactful roles that we remember 37 years on. Oh and for the record....I"m a big Mackenzie Davis fan. Loved her in Halt and Catch Fire which is still a sleeper for AMC that I watched from beginning to end.
@@johnm3907 also see “near dark”. Lance and bill in it too
Terminator: Metal.
Terminator 2: Liquid Metal.
Terminator Dark Fate: Gender fluid.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Terminator Dark Fate @FUCKING LAUGHABLE JOKE
Best comment i have ever read.
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHA!!
you misheard Sara ...she did not say "I'll be back" she said "Ow , my back" honest mistake
I'll be.....ow! my back.
What about old Arnold?
Jetstoanywhere
I love you.
Ow, me back!
Főfasírozó that’s genius honestly
Terminator: Woke Fate: "I'll be back."
Terminator fans: "We won't."
LMFAO 😂👌
The Terminator franchise has become the worst cinematic franchise in a highly competitive field.
So true, from an old die-hard fan (T1 & 2).
You know how visual novels have a bunch of bad endings you have to sit through to get to the true ending?
Now remove the true ending.
And today's "Internet Comment of the Day" winner is....
I STILL get chills during T2, when Sarah gets her first glimpse of what she thinks is the original terminator. Her response is so perfectly done- all that terror, frustration, and exhaustion in one sound and 2 seconds of action.
I rewatched it not long ago and afterwards I was angry - because it hit me just how the "get down!" scene was supposed to be a shocking plot twist, but it had been revealed well in advance that Arnold was the "good" Terminator this time.
That’s crazy a movie can give someone “chills”
It is a timeless masterpiece.
@@zombiedodge1426True, that also ground my gears. How recklessly they tossed that great twist out the window.
I haven't seen that in like 15 years or more and I still remember what you are talking about. That was masterful. She has been a mental patient for years, with deep trauma and stress disorders, told she is insane every day and made to doubt herself, with nothing but her memories of the horror she experienced, which she is made to doubt and wonder if are even real even as they torment her and give her nightmares and flashbacks. Only to have the face of her nightmares come around a corner and look into her eyes, right in the middle of stressful situation. She is falling into her nightmares and her mind is on the verge of utterly breaking in terror and shock, and helplessness, not sure if it's real, but totally aware that if it is there is absolutely no way for her to save herself and no one can help her, she is trapped and can only recoil in horror. I was like 15 and I saw all that. That's pretty good for a few seconds of screentime.
It’s bizarre that the filmmakers seemed to think that they needed to remake/reimagine Terminator as female-centric when the original two already *were* female-centric; Sarah Conner was the clear protagonist and is the reason why the good guys win in both movies. So obviously the new filmmakers just had a problem with the concept of her doing things for the sake of someone else, namely protecting her child. Wow, what an awful motive for a character.....
Even worse, they bashed her and minimized her by saying “she was just a womb”, but don’t worry our new plain and boring character is better than that, she’s a leader! We don’t show that in the movie but believe us she’s a leader!
Just like Star Wars. Remember Princess Leia? the determined smart and ruthless leader of the rebelion? Nah, she was just a bimbo, Mary Sue is a much better character, so much that we don't even care to explain her background, parents, origins or anything resembling a character.
But you see, the original is a heresy, it doesn't fit with their version of strong wamen, it was written by a man, burn in hell !
@@Zamolxes77 This was written and directed by a man too. Fail.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 He's the wrong version of a man !!! Burn him !
They killed off John Connor for two reasons: He was a man, and so that the generic teenage girl could take his place as a female John Connor.
@Disney is the Devil I was about to reply the same thing. Lol.
Exactly. And I am not surprised
In current timeline, cis white heterosexual man is worse than Skynet. Just because.
I hope another Terminator will travel back to this timeline and reset it to make some sense again :-D
@SJW Cure BULLSHITTO
@@tlamiczka Yes, because terminators do like things to make sense.
-'Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?'
-'No, have you?'
I didn't know she played John Connor's adopted mother in T2.
they did to John what they did to Newt and Hicks!
game over man, game over!
@@heedmywarning2792 She was also a cop in Lethal Weapon 2. Very underrated actress and should have had more parts.
now that was a tough bitch ;)
That is funny!!!!!!
Now i understand why skynet wanted to destroy humanity in judgement day...
We made "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk a hit???
I love how "androgynous thing" and "generic teenage girl" perfectly and completely discribe the two characters.
I remember the 80's, when "generic teenage girl" usually at least meant a decent shower scene.
@@rogerwagner6940 THAT was the key point!
Apple genius does too 🤣
*Terminator 3 doesn't seem so bad now, does it?*
I love the actual terminator in T3 she was cool, even if the movie was just ok
I don’t compare. Bad is bad and will always be bad. Making worse sequels doesn’t do anything to help the crap that came before.
I like "T3" even more now. Has the best action scenes, best FX that now, the main theme of Blue Man Group with Gavin Rossdale and the best ending. It has some objectionable things, but they are not very important. The issue with Sarah's death was because Linda was not interested in participating and Edward Furlong was having drug problems.
Wrong. It's still piece of shit no matter how bad new movies will be.
@@TardesdeNeon I don't mind T3 either for some reason. 😂 It's a sillier take and still pretty fun.
I didn't even see the movie and I still want a refund. 😑
Pirate movies it helps with the pain of all these sjw movie disasters, at least the pay thing, the frustrations are still there.
KrO ah, but the Chinese will pirate this as I type and sell them in Asia for $1. I still won’t watch it. Tired of SJW movies.
I'd truly be unable to imagine a terminator more dangerous than T1000. He was a legitimately scary, and had an amazing way about with the way he interacts with people not on his kill list. He shown charisma in talking to bystanders, but the second he spots the target, he just tears after them.
But I love how even when he’s showing that charisma, something still seems a little bit off but you can’t quite put your finger it. Just an incredible performance.
He was the best villain but less leathal than an older model with a gatling gun. This is in no way an endorsement of Terminator Salvation the worst movie in the series
That's the best thing about the T-1000; he's a bit off. Its super sinister
I remember back in the day when the terminators actually had to do some detective work and seek out weapons and stuff. Now they're just cartoon characters.
Yeah. Such a poor writing in these new movies. Back in the day, people created movies with passion. They were exploring new things and ideas.
Today, they just copy and paste everything. No passion.
Plus they are pushing this horrible gender agenda.
Yuck.
In the first movie terminator was like: where the fuck is the Connor Sarah section
You can thank superhero movies for that
Now he's just a dummy with dummer name.
@@jan.mal.1284 even with the T-1000 they show a major flaw... his mechanical weapons don't alter with his liquid metal
"We made this movie so that people can see that there can be strong female heroes that everyone can like."
They completely forgot that we already had strong female heroes for some 40 years. Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor that are the most loved action heroes of all time. Ripley is my personal favorite action hero off all time.
Also, as we moved into the middle era of those, and into the next, we got new franchises that brought about some who may also have messy franchises, but flawed doesn't mean bad automatically. Such as there's lots of great to be found in the Underworld Franchise, and Kate Beckinsale's Selene was and has always been great. While there's some depth but less effort put in, Alice played my Milla Jovovich of Resident Evil also was there. Heck, Marvel's own Black Widow (not Captain Woke). Now we got...Batwoman.
I love Selene from the Underworld franchise and Lara Croft. They prove that you can be strong female character that is loved by the audience without having to give up their femininity. You don't have to be a man's substitute to be a great character
Let's please not forget Buffy 'The Vampire Slayer' Summers, mkay?
Exactly... it has never been a real problem. And there were plenty more.
Ripley is so well rounded
I turned this movie on, watched the first ten minutes and shut it off. Killing the main character for the single purpose of replacing him with a female version of him is the worst writing I’ve ever heard.
They also killed him to give Sarah a reason to be in the movie.
I did the same thing. If you saw any of the earlier movies, how could you keep watching this (crap)!?
We were the lucky ones. If you kept watching it, I bet you regret it lol.
Welcome to Woke-world 'logic'.
It makes sense hed die
@@Zarbon000 yall weren't lucky if you even so much as wasted the effort of pirating that dumpster fire(godforbid you paid lol.) The lucky ones are the ones who found out it released about a year or so after and saw the clips from TH-cam lmao
I miss the universe Salvation built. So many stories could have been told.
On the topic of Toxic Masculinity, it's funny that to portray a strong female said female must act like a male with a case of Super Toxicity.
The ironing is delicious 🙃
I understand that but did you watch the film? The future scene with Danni is literally laughable. I'm sorry but in no world is some soft young girl leading the human resistance against the machines.
Go back and re watch terminator 1 or 2's future was scenes and the real feel of how desperate and brutal the following years after judgment day were.
Little Danni Ramos just is not believable in that scenario I'm sorry. Not only is it not believable its highly unlikely in all reality (if this were reality) that a person like Dani would be anything remotely close to the leader of the human resistance. Just saying.
LOL yeah really!!!!! When a man acts like that he's being toxic. When a woman does it it's empowering?
The only thing I really remember from the movie was my anger at the line where Androgynous Thing says "Dani, you are not just the mother of some man who saves the future".
Within the movie it completely undermines Sarah Connor as a character by suggesting that her only contribution to altering the future was accidentally getting pregnant, while at the same time, in real life it shows an appalling level of disrespect to Linda Hamilton's decades of dedication to the franchise.
And correct me if I am wrong, isn't this said while Linda / Sarah is sitting right there? Totally spits in her face figuratively and literally.
Who the fuck cares if shes just the mother of the future hero. She essentially fights a Terminator and later teaches John everything she knows. Fuck this film .
@ X XXX Yes. Besides Dark Fate being basically a T1/T2 reboot, your comment hit another nail on the head. How could they so callously belittle Sarah Connor/Linda Hamilton as though she really hadn't been that important. Just one more of the many reasons to hate it.
@@zom8680 - Yeah, she's right there in the scene. Imagine not just having to read it in the script and see it in the movie, but also having to stand there for numerous takes of being insulted.
I just pretend everything ended with T2.
No pretending necessary. It did.
Yeah I tell people just watch the first two and you're fine
Yup, I’ll never watch anything after t2
T3 was great too, I don't know why everyone is ignoring it. Yeah, anything after T3 was just trash.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I will give you t3. Only if you want to watch it
"Generic teenage girl"
"Androgynous thing"
"Apple genius"
made me LOL hard
best way to describe our new trio...Granny Connor, Dora The Explorer and the LGBT-1000
@@chrishunter8305 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
@@chrishunter8305 great
@@chrishunter8305 perfection.
My favorite line?
"They can..... FUCK..................................RIGHT.......................................OFF"
"she needs drugs and supplies to stabilise herself"
Yeah that pretty much sums up all of Hollyweird these days :(
Yeeeesh. Take it back you bigot:(
All I was thinking was “so do I bitch she ain’t special.” Yeah let’s send a drug addict lesbian back in time to defend us in a broken timeline where every Overpowered enemy was made of liquid metal but sure let’s keep sending back outdated models.
I think they did this so that the T-DYK3 didn’t seem too overpowered as a protagonist but they failed that. Also Sarah Connor seemed almost displaced in the entire movie. She never felt like she was a major part of the movie.
"These days?" Try "all of its history".
And the audience.
@@ToastytheG stfu
Ironically Terminator 1 and 2 are how you write the evolution of a strong female character. In Terminator 1 Sarah was a damsel in distress because she was in over her head. In T2 she had 10 years of training under her belt and didn’t just use physical strength she used her mind too. Like when she used a paperclip to free herself and used a syringe of bleach to hold a hostage.
goddamn I forgot about the syringe of bleach! she actually put it in his neck!! that was so raw
Are these actors fucking conscious? I mean it! Do they realize how this egregious slop seriously diminishes their earlier work in the franchise and overall credibility?
She was mentally damaged and almost murdered an innocent. FLAWED. Hollywood can't write like this anymore. Female characters can't do any wrong and are all somehow victims and need to put down men. It's woke garbage.
Also shows the power of a mother. Maternal instinct.
@@Bootmahoy88 easy paycheck
The nick-names (e.g., "androgynous-thing," "generic-teenage-girl," "apple-genius," etc.) are perfect for conveying how little the audience care about these less-than-video-game characters.
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yes, handling John Connor that way - especially using young Edward Furlong, the way we remember him through all the thrills and suspense of T2! - was majorly stupid, and disrespectful I'll add. What's more, the killing wasn't nearly earned: There was no chase, no set up... just *BLAM* take that, audience! Like a giant middle finger.
For all intents and purposes they DID kill off Luke Skywalker (by making him a quitter and a loser) in the name of Wokeness (since you aren't allowed to have a cisgender white male protagonist anymore), along with the ancient Jedi temple/library, and then Luke used the Force to commit suicide and just evaporate at the end. Like Kylo Ren tells Rey to do, "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." Disgusting.
There is actually a what if out there, where if Luke did die, Leah would take up the saber.
"The most important man in the history of humanity" - You know why he was killed.
Wow, the first terminator must have made you pretty furious then right? I mean, that ending is total feminist, misandrist nonsense!
This is also like the third time John Connor being killed has been used in the entire Terminator franchise. Not a new idea devised by your feminist-sjw-zombie arch-nemeses.
@@BeggarsNight How is it feminist, misandrist nonsense? It was apolitical. Just a mom doing whatever she can to keep her unborn child safe.
Something leftists wouldn't understand, since they believe murdering unborn children is a far better and virtuous idea.
WHITE MAN BAD
His long history of drug abuse and domestic issues that are a direct result of him as a child star?
@@mr.battle20 I love you, pls marry me.
So in the two attempts at re-boots, they have John be the main villain of one and killed him off as a kid in the other....jeez I wonder why they failed
Genisys didn't fail at the box office.
Dark fate did.
Also John was cool as a villain. He was Better than T3 Adult John.
@@srikrishna2561 if they didn’t tell people in the trailer that John became a machine and even cut the beginning scene out where he was attacked when Kyle was sent back, it would been a good shock to the audience when he showed up and is revealed as a machine.
@@ram76921 Exactly. 👍
@Jimbo Bimbo Why ?
@@srikrishna2561 How you reveal a bad guy, is just as important as how your bad guy is portrayed in the rest of the film.
Thanos is a good example of a strong introduction, paired with a really good portrayal.
Ultron is a good example of a strong introduction, but a poor portrayal throughout the rest of the movie.
Herminator: Come with me Juanita Connor, if you want to subvert the patriarchy
Herminator?
Most underrated comment.
😅😄😂🤣
Damn that's GOOD =D
Soo Kay!
Female terminator: I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle..
I finally watched this, as it was free on Film 4. It was awful as I was expecting, but that scene where they find Arnie, enjoying a ball game with a beer?! I was like: "oh right, this is a comedy?" I didn't even make it to the end of the film. I gave up when they were driving that air tight Hummer round underwater. FFS.
The feminist agenda in this movie disgusts me. There's a line by Grace when she's telling Dani "you're not the mother of some man who saves us" - yeah because that was such a terrible thing in the original Terminator movie wasn't it!
Agreed. The worst part about it is that Sara Conner WASN'T just the mother of the man that led the resistance. She wasn't the leader of the resistance. For years she WAS the fucking resistance. She was fighting the war solo. And at the end of Terminator 2 it became clear that she didn't give birth to the leader of a resistance. She saved her son from ever having to take that burden to begin with. To give away your life, your happiness, your very sanity, to save a world that has condemned you because it was the right thing to do? To spare your child a terrible burden and give him a chance to live a normal life? That is a powerful female character that's not easily matched.
But Hollywood had to fucking Hollywood and ruin it all.
There never should of been a sequel to T2. Ever.
If anything that ought to empower women, knowing without them, a generation of competent men and soldiers cant be brought forward. Yes it’s a risk because of all the pain and death of war, but any woman who is told their son is the non-biblical saviour of humanity itself, will have understandable and believable cause to become a soldier and a fighter. Feminists these days believe that simply being a woman is enough to empower, but you’ve got no philosophical or physical basis to build yourself on other than chromosomes and sex organs - of which femininity tried to depose before being hijacked. It’s about purpose and carrying on in a state where humanity is literally at the receiving end of domination and annihilation. Regardless of gender, whoever rises to that fight, no matter the consequence, is someone to look to.
@Patrick Sylvia It's not "just a movie" ya bloody normie! Ever hear of propaganda? Just like academia and politics, radical feminists like Kathleen Kennedy have infiltrated Hollywood via gender quotas and have destroyed and emasculated strong male heroes. I highly doubt you're a man "Patrick", as you're using the same ad hominem shaming tactics a woman would.
Patrick Sylvia oh shut up and get a clue
This people are pitiful and pathetic. They want anger but to be honest why would we be? they are so bad its best to just ignore the c**ts at this point.
Movies today have a different purpose than entertainment.
Movies today: Force an agenda
Movies back then: Entertainment
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What caused you to *[MAKE A MOVIE]?*
Money
No, it's just that people today go online to see what they should think about a movie instead of forming their own judgement.
“I’ll be back.”
“Part time.”
Is that a Crystal Skull reference?
I hope there's at least a refrigerator to protect generic teenage girl from androgynous thing.
Why did they go with that take? You know...the worst one?
@@Rodan16 GO AWAY NOW
Aaaaaids!!!!
I still can't believe how they've managed to destroy such a badass universe of movie potential they had here. First 2 movies were perfect, after that, WTF happened again and again.
John Conner is terminated less than a minute into this film, that’s all the reason any fan needs to not even bother with this and to put it bluntly it’s TLJ of the Terminator Saga.
Uh oh... that's it
woah, john connor dies. wtf, yep, as you say, why even go to see granpa termintor. ruined my day now!!! :(
There is no Terminator without John Connor.
@xXZiplockXx False. Rogue is incorrect for one reason.
No transgendered terminator in the plot line, thus making his statement/idea racist.
It's worse that you think. Non other than James Cameron has said in interviews that he HATES when sequels kill off main characters people like from previous movies for no reason. This was his response on Alien 3 when they killed off of his characters from Aliens. So, for him to approve the killing of John Conner right at the start, means he's just pissing on the fans at this point and does not give a shit as long as he gets a political correct new movie.
We need "Go away now" and "Nah, it'll be fine" shirts.
No “Fuck off, film?”
all 3 need to be done, right now!
I'd include "Don't know!" with the Drinker shrugging at a cop. Lol!
"I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle"
Mexican fate: hasta la vista franchise.
Nice
😂😂😂👍
"i also need four asada tacos and diet coke"
Lol Awesome!
They should have turned all the vehicles into tricked out low riders then had them go off road and get stuck in a wash. ...La cucaracha horns going off.
James Cameron "toxic masculinity is a problem"
Also James Cameron - "All my female characters exhibit the traits of toxic masculinity"
Yes, these false ideologies are mere temper tantrums; they clearly make no sense when logically evaluated...
Ethic person✔
Strong female lead✔
LGBTQ✔
Nostalgia ✔
2019 movies
@@MrCholoPants3415 Too true
@CG Vallejos oh yea, oRaNgE mAn BaD
The funny thing to me is that it's actually an insult to women that producers feel the need to *FORCE* a "strong female" presence when it should just come naturally depending on the film. The "strong female lead" has been done really well since the beginning of time... in the same franchise no less, and some of the best characters of all time are female. These clowns just don't get it.
Diversity Is Our Strength...
(Leaves room after successful troll)
Gay...CHECK
Rip Terminator
James Bond - You're next.
You mean Janesha Bondawqua, you racist
Na waiting for mission impossible and 007 to be killed off by sjw's
The name is now Bland. James Bland.
He bops mean white men with a pink pillow.
Lemuria1993 Lol!
@@MrTubularBalls *Jane Bland, agent 000
I’m already an alchoholic so luckily this movie can’t push me to the bottle.
Willpower +2... sorta
Sure as hell pushed me to it
One of our reviewers called it "Feminator" for the strong female characters.
Also, teaching the John Connor replacement girl to shoot was hilarious. "It is all in your mind".
"Granny Conner, Dora the explorer, and the LGBT-1000" as one wise man said...
Haha damn
The Blessed Pipeman.
Fuckin genius .. lmao
Dora looks hot, though!
They should've cast the Dora the explorer from robot chicken. That is one hot Colombian.
Robert Patrick's terminator scared the crap out of me when I first seen him. I never knew who would be killed because Patrick was just so intimidating. He played an amazing part. Oh man the good old days...
@Főfasírozó yeah, his eyes never smiled, they remained cold and dead. Good acting.
I thought the original Terminator going after Sarah Conner was pretty intimidating. That thing wasn't particularly "bondy" with humans and also posed to be a disruptive issue for the also intimidated waitress.
Same here. Could not write it better due to my poor english skills.
"Undo everything people loved" seems to be the core of all this sequels to old beloved classics these days.
Then attack said people for being "toxic fanboys"
That's because people loved them for all the wrong reasons. So it's not enough to simply ignore the reasons people loved the classics, then go on to do your own "new, improved" thing. You have to make a major point of shitting all over the things people loved about the originals. Because only then will people realize that their love for those classics was misplaced and hail your genius pointing out to them what they should have known all along.
@thematic I expect your apology within 72 hours.
Rambo was the only good one
So sad watching my beloved favorite classics get destroyed by "The Message"
This crap just makes you realize how amazing T2 was.
This crap made me realize Genisys wasn’t that bad.
makes you wish the series ended with Salvation
Genesys was a big f-k you to T2, the best stuff never happened
RIGHT!!!
MrGenexxx, no shit, as bad as Genisys is.
Terminator is the only franchise that’s had a trilogy of trilogies cancelled. Salvation was part 1 of a planned trilogy. Cancelled. Genesis was part 1 of a planned trilogy. Cancelled. Dark fate was part 1 of a planned trilogy. All cancelled. That’s genuinely impressive.
Star Wars isn't far behind
They can use this a tagline for the blu ray boxset trilogy. "See together for the first time, A trilogy of failed trilogies"
I'm only sad about Salvation, but honestly only for the setting. The plot was garbage and Christian Bale could only ham it up so much.
I'll be back
@@WhiteChocolate74 It's worse than that it's dead Dick , dead Dick, dead ........
And all this with James Cameron's blessing, let's not forget.
Robovader Never really liked him anyways. Sure he made legendary flicks but nowadays, like Ridley Scott, don't really care much about originality or creativity and have no problem allowing their very own franchises to be butchered just to make a bit of coin
First he raised the bar in South Park, now he himself lowered it again...
He does go on to discover cameronium....so there's that
Like Jussie Smolls said -
"It's all about the Benjamin's baby"
@smakfu Well, he NEVER made an original movie to begin with. He made some nice flicks in the long ago past (Aliens and Terminator, basically, though he never sunk to Holland Emerich levels, I give him that), but all his movies are rippoffs of something. I wouldn't mind (I don't think ripoffs are necessarily bad things) if he only acknowledged them for what they are.
Aliens is a ripoff of several war movies mixed with cheap horror moves that completely removes all that was actually good, scary and suspenseful about the original movie. Terminator rode the wave of 80s horror/sci-fi movies, otherwise I doubt it would be remembered to this day. And those are his good movies.
A Terminator retiring and getting an ordinary human life after completing its mission was a Robot Chicken plot XD
The ending of T2 was perfect. Nothing after that exists.
I have the same theory for the Alien movies. Nothing after the second one happened....
The ending of T3 was perfect, epic ending
Many porns came after. I watch a lot of porn.
@Snails40 Why are non zombie leftists even paying attention to this feminist woke pile of garbage, just ignore it 😵
100%. They could've ended it at T2 with the "no fate but what we make it", and it would've been great.
I could even accept T3 with the "some things are inevitable [judgement day], and we need to make the best of it" being an ending, despite the beginning of the decline in quality.
But no, they just had to keep pumping them out.
"I'll be back."
Feel free to just not.
I wont. Im never revisiting this franchise.
67% on RT ... it's okay
LINDA HAMILTON: I'll be back!
STUDIO EXECUTIVE: Only in a box-set re-release.
The Wokenator
"I'll be back."
"Yeah, well, I won't be waiting around for when you do."
Robert Patrick's portrayal of the T-1000 was flawless but it is a myth that the T-1000 never blinked. He actually blinks in 2 scenes. The first is when he is questioning the foster parents and the second is when says "say, that's a nice bike" after the Pescadero break-out. He is trying to be as human as possible in those scenes so there is a reason for it. That's me just being a nerd, lol.
They ruined Linda Hamilton’s long-awaited return to the franchise. That’s probably the biggest crime committed by any of these sequels since T2.
She shouldn't have ever returned. She was dead in T3. That makes her return in this, or any other movie, idiotic.
@@jimthar17 Oh yeah, forgot about that.
There you go. She didn't even look like she wanted to be there. That poor woman.
@@Vladpryde Linda Hamilton did not deserve this!
@@jimthar17 Well, to be fair, T3 actually happened in a timeline where john wasn't killed, but yeah i agree
Me as a 15 year old kid watching T2: I love this and want Hollywood to make make many sequels! 😆
Me today: wat have I done!? 😫
We have all been at that point.
Well, to be fair, 4 doesn’t exactly qualify as “many”, if that’s of any consolation 🤔
“ don’t know !”
@@tyrantgregcagkaiju71 4? its 6 movies dude terminator 1,2,3 Salvation Genisys Dark Fate but to be fair its only 2 movies 1 2 and thats it for me :)
@@AhmedAli-tp6bl he meant sequel of terminator 2
When I found out Edward Furlong was coming back to play John Connor and that Linda Hamilton would be in it, I was stoked. When I found out what happens to John and that it happens in the very beginning of the movie, I just could not bring myself to watch it. For me, there's Terminator 1 and Terminator 2: Judgement Day, and that's it!
What sequels?
@@DS-mi9ru yeah, what sequels? There was only two Terminator movies
Exaaaaactly
@@thekiller7994 After Genysis and Dark Fate, I have grown to love Salvation. T3 isn't bad either.
@@specialunit0428 T3 was great
"female dick weaving to establish who's the stronger strong female character" - This one had me dead 😂
female dick weaving is basically scissoring
This franchise should have been left alone after Judgement Day. The only good thing that came out of continuing it was Christian Bale's tantrum on Salvation set.
Tantrum?
@@bbriggs7409 look it up theres even a song about Christian Bale at a party.
Ah yes the Bale Out.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow will look it up soon
B briggs A DP fucked up repeatedly on set when he continuously walked right into the shot as they were filming Salvation, and Christian Bale began cursing the fuck outta him.
I remember as a kid crying when terminator was lowered into the molten steel.. And have since cried every time it came back.
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Similarly (and perhaps ironically) I am met with a loss of how to respond anymore to Capcom. Namely for the MegaMan franchise. They told us nearly a decade ago it was dead...and now they are trying to revive it for as much as they can keep milking the formula. So it isn't dead, it isn't alive, it isn't relevant, but it's still getting sold. Their recent installation of Dive...nice concept but the tacky dialogue is god awful.
I want for Saw 9 to be good but...from everything I hear it will get rid of everything familiar except the visceral mechanical killing and NOT be part of the canonical story.
At this point my mind is so full of fuck.
GTA2SWcity it’s Schrödinger’s cat both dead and alive at the same time
During T2 I cried because it was him. During Dark Fate, I cried because I wished it had been me...
@Caleb Clifford Ah so there's a name for it. Still I suppose you're right...
Me after watching Genisys and Dark Fate, Terminator 3 is actually quite decent Terminator movie
Those two trash fires actually make Terminator Salvation look good by comparison.
Terminator 3 was always underrated. It was always going to look bad because it directly followed T2, but unlike literally every other Terminator that came after it, it actually accomplished what it tried to do, and was a sequel that made sense continuing the timeline of the Terminator, without insulting the older movies. Sarah Connor lived a full life and died peacefully, John tried to move on and believe that Judgment Day had been averted, but in the end was plagued with that same paranoia his mother had, and the set up for the plot made a bit more sense to explain how a third Terminator could go back. Best of all, it set things up so that they could go into the war with Skynet without needing to come up with more excuses for time travel, as the war with the machines would be interesting on its own. T4 *tried* to be a sequel that built off of that foundation...but utterly failed in doing what it set out to do, dooming the franchise to hackneyed reboot attempts.
@@stevepalpatine2828 I thought salvation was pretty good
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I agree - Terminator 3 had it flaws and issues, but it was a solidly average movie. It wasn't the A+ rollercoaster of it's progenitors, so it compared badly and got a lot of stick it only kind of deserved. It takes a long time to get going, some of the action sequences are much longer than they needed to be, the T-X terminator could never have lived up to the terrifying T-1000 in either concept or Patrick's stunningly understated execution. The first half of the movie is formulaic and predictable, but then half way through the script starts to play with your assumptions and expectations, subtle hints lead to not-so-subtle hints about how this is all going to go down, and then the movie pulls another switcheroo on you right at the end - an ending that pulls the movie up from an uneven mess to a clumsily-executed but eventually intelligent story. No, it's not a masterpiece, not by a long shot. Compared to the rest of Terminator franchise, it's firmly on the right side of good-enough.
@@stoneymahoney9106 Honestly, I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. T3 wasn't a blockbuster masterpiece like T1 and T2 are considered, so it was always not going to hold up by comparison, but it was very solid and an important transition movie to move into a different style that would no longer require rehashing 'and then another terminator was sent back somehow'. T4 didn't know WHAT it wanted to do - since they swapped out the ending at the last minute - and every other one since then has tried to be a reboot and failed horribly.
The 'Kick Ass Marine" actress (Janette Goldstein) given as an example of how to play a strong female character (Vasquez in Aliens) just so happened to also be in Terminator 2 as John's Adoptive Mum.
Fun Fact: Linda Hamilton didn’t know the camera was rolling when she said she’ll be back.
In actuality she was just going to the craft service table to get a bagel. They just edited out the part where she asked if anyone else wanted anything and kept the part when she said she’ll be back
I don't think Linda Hamilton is Chinese.
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Is it bad that when I read you comment on my message notifications that I knew instantly I accidentally put down Beagle and not Bagel
Is this true? Because if it is, then holy crap we dont know how bad things truly are.
Octavio Vazquez no it’s a joke
I am so glad this movie bombed financially. They absolutely earned it.
I’d say it got terminated.
@@DaScorpionSting since you got no reply i gotchu HAHAHAH FUNNY
I love the fact that these feminist woke movies are so empowering for women that even women avoid them like the plague.
Well done SJW Hollywood.
It's almost as if most people really don't care about the political standing of a bunch of rich filmmakers, but rather want to see good movies.
😂😂😂 I don't think we need to be empowered by fictional characters when there's thousands of real life females, dealing with real life problems and solving them not thanks to luck and unrealistic script but work and dedication.
I personally don't care about characters gender, everyone can be inspired or impressed by positive actions of someone. No matter their skin color, age or sex.
@@megan7788 Thank you for that Megan. Stay healthy out there!
@@inblackestnight9256 thanks, you too!
When you try that hard to be woke; it ain't woke.
Terminator 1 and 2 were woke without even trying, before the concept even existed. Sarah Connor was badass all the way through, without any agenda pushing or man-bashing. That's what "woke" movies should aim for, not... this.
I've seen the original Terminator movie so many times that I could tell just by the electricity surge noise of the T-800 being crushed by Sarah Conner in the clip at the end of the video, that it was the remastered movie clip as opposed to the original. I loved Terminator 1, 2, and found the third installment tolerable because I liked the end. Judgment Day being inevitable and Arnold leading John Conner to a safe bunker to ride out the nuclear war without him knowing was a great twist in my opinion. Everything since has been trash. I had high hopes for Salvation as it took place during the war and Christian Bale playing John Conner seemed like a plus. That plot set up was the movie I wanted to see made since I was a kid who saw Terminator 2 in the theater. I was legitimately pissed off leaving the theater after Salvation, what a fucking dud. Now we get gender fluid terminators and southern border allegory. What a nonsensical cash grab this franchise has become.
T1 is a perfect story and can only be hurt by more exposition. T2 is only good because Cameron had total control of the project. The rest are crap because of Rule #1.
I didn't get to see how it played out, but I was pretty happy with the first part of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. There was just one continuity error that bugged me, the head of the Terminator going forward in time with them. It's well established from the first movie that only living things can go through the portal.
Every female characters in this movie seem to try hard on looking and acting bad ass than being personable and relatable. Seems to be the trend with all the female led movies these days.
Terminator 2019: "Talk to the hand... ... because I identify as an arm"
@Brian Smith Jesus did you expect a standing ovation?
T800: Talk to the hand...
...
...
...
Because I identify as a ma'am!
That got a genuine laugh out of me. Ta muchly.
*crushes hand*
"Now"
This is just the terminator version of ghostbusters 2016.
It came up on autoplay after that, lol. I'm on a 'tearing apart shit movies I was wise enough to avoid the first time' review marathon, and considering I am both an experienced cinephile and a virgin to Rocky movies, this could go on for days 🍿
Ghostbusters was way worse
put in there the last resident evil movie too
@@allangray6764 Because....women?
I mean, this was bad. But the Ghostbusters reboot was SO much worse.
@@eugenesutherland7185 I actually think this is worse then Ghost Busters reboot but that's just a witch one is worse question.
They terminated the terminator movies from the fans who actually love the first and second movies.
"Because Arnold's died more times in these movies than Sean Bean" 😂 Yeah, I hate movies now days, too
ShadowVessel π So on point right there 👉
nowadays*
so the females are good and the guy is bad? Who saw that coming in 2019?
CURRENT YEAR
@ 5" 1' bitch who can't even hold a gun well at all, wtf were they thinking making this trash of a movie
What are you talking about? A woman was the "good guy" and a man was the "bad guy" in the first Terminator movie.
boxingjerapah females don’t fit the role of a terminator at all.
@@MoserB73 sure they do... They are supposed to be nearly undetectable. Arnold never really fit the Terminator 'mold' as he stands out like a sore thumb really. If you're looking for a death machine disquised as a human... Arnold stands out as one.
Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time"
Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse"
Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?"
Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
T2: uncontrollable screaming
The Terminator: How hard is it to write a Future War story conclusion?
@@ebi_tempura to be fair, Salvation was interesting from a narrative standpoint.
Everything before Genisys is ok in my book.
Jack Frost u gae or just unfunny?
My favorite part of the movie is how the transport plane is broken into two pieces (with very different trajectories), a vehicle falls out (with a parachute), and a couple of terminators. Despite traveling across a vast area at great speed, not only do all of the parts/contents of the plane happen to land within 100 yards of each other, but they happen to land on the Hoover Dam.... Not just near the Hoover Dam, but actually the parachuted Humvee lands directly on the Hoover Dam (pretty much dead center on the span as well).
I'm willing to give some leeway and suspend my disbelief to some degree, but this is about the most distracting sequence since the Fast and the Furious 6's endless runway fight where the sequence rolled out at very high speeds for 13+ minutes. That's one, very long, straight runway. Over 5 times the longest runway in the world.
It's amazing how really bad this movie is, even from a mindless action movie aspect.
When this movie bombs at the box office we will finally have a whole trilogy of failed Terminator trilogies!
Deven Keough a full failure collection
Lmao!!! So true! They should have just stuck the first attempt of Salvation, because as time went on during these, we would have finally gotten the actual looking future war film that we have been wanting since T2!!!
Also the tired formula of sending a Terminator and a protector back in time, would have been OVER!!!
I hope i'm the one who coined the term "Flopinator"!
Salvation did set up a good premise that should have been expanded upon in later films. It wasn't a bad film as many have pointed out, it was just incomplete. By now we would have been at the epoch of the series where we would have gotten an epic future war and final showdown with skynet, but naa, fuck it, lets just keep doing the same old shtick. Has nobody learned from the mcu? Just listen to the fans and give them what they want dammit!
Why am I getting a cold shiver down my back thinking about Ghostbusters 3 now? Please God don't let that happen! Please!!!
We can only hope it flops..if it doesnt we will get more of this WOKE trash
When I heard that John Connor dies in the first 5 minutes of this movie, I adamantly refused to believe it. You would think that after the disaster that was Alien3, filmmakers would learn their lesson about killing beloved characters from a previous movie before the next one even starts. Hell, James Cameron himself was livid about that back in the day! But nope!
Also, I always assumed that a Terminator would just self-destruct after completing its mission, but whatever.
Especially as it was stated in T2 that they have to be altered by a third party before they can learn new things like smiling.
The TV series had a good take. A terminator completed a mission to get supplies, then locked itself away in hibernation, awaiting the time it should rejoin the war.
The ironic thing is that James Cameron actually said how disappointed he was when Vincent Ward had Newt and Hicks killed. Cameron basically pulled the biggest bruh moment of 2019.
To be fair the Director's Cut of Alien 3 is solid.
@@Rodan16 I suppose it is, but the fact that the movie kills off Newt and Hicks immediately without any sort of goodbye completely squandered any chance I had of liking it.
Patches O'Houlihan No matter which cut of Alien 3 you prefer, either is more worthwhile film than this bland mess.
Feminist Hollywood: “Men suck”
10 minutes later: “Let’s make a movie where girls act like men”
Their movies do indeed suck, so it adds up.
Femminism is penis envy
Well said!
Feminists don't want to be treated like men, they want special privileges, and to be held in higher regard than men. In other words, it's not equality at all. It's toxic and immoral elitism.
@@lordkrythic6246 Yes, but he mean it as excuse of their actions (I guess). Also: feminist are not thought-independent at all (they more like bunch angry little brats who hates their daddy/boyfriend/husband). They are a wing of destructive marksizm. You unleash them with socialists and gender minorities, and they wrec havoc, till normality is broken... then you take over and nobody complains (they just want you to fix this: and leave your children).
History repeats itself: checkout how Stalin broke Russians + other nations around it, and created USSR - workers paradise.
Movies and Hollywood is just a way of spirit breaking propaganda, you see same patter over and over again, and you thin its normal.... try to explain that to people watching these movies without questioning.
I think I will copy that as independent comment.
I love how you kept showing clips from the other Terminator movies that mirrored Dark Fate, but were so much better!!! I was laughing so hard at that!!!
The drinker is GOATED lol
A Terminator that grows a conscious and named himself Carl was about as ridiculous as it gets.
It’s beyond cringe, I can’t take it. So glad i watched spoilers before wasting my time. Injecting Arnold this way, just for cheap nostalgia and nothing else is laughable. He’s too old and out of shape to portray the character in any meaningful way. I think 1984 Terminator was the best. The combination of sci fi, noir and even horror. It was dark, gritty and intense. I’ll never forget the scene in the 1984 Terminator when the Terminator first appeared. It was dark, magical and foreboding .Compare that to the current Arnold in this film. 😖 The idea of a Terminator taking on civilian family life destroys what we’ve learned about them.
“He can’t be bargained with, he can’t be reasoned with. He doesn’t feel remorse, or pity or fear, and he absolutely will not stop, until you are dead.”
Next up a xenomorph finds a consiance and renames as barny , opens an ice-cream company and feeds ducks on the weekend
@@brosephh7130 you kinda messed up kyle reese words but i do get the point..lol
@@brosephh7130 They can't be bargain with they can't be reasoned with they don't feel pity or remorse or fear and the absolutely will not stop ever until you're dead
Bobby Liang that sounds fucking cool 😂
Generic teenage girl....who's actually 33.
@Ricky Shiffer yea that movie was good. I liked that.
WAT.
Pfffft HAHAHAHAH
STAND AND FIIIGHT!
Yeah, it's a scary world when 13 year olds look like their 30, and 30 year olds look like their 13. I miss the good old days of just having kids be kids in movies. Yeah, they were terrible at acting, but at least it felt like they were kids.
Did you know: Vasquez from Aliens is the same actor that played the foster-mother in T2.
She was also the chick with kids i titanic that died
Holy shit of course! How did I miss that one!!!
She was also the female officer in lethal weapon 2 who was killed while diving into the swimming pool
Johnny FIVE_5 no thats maria conchita alonzo but A for effort
if she'd kept her smart gun things would have turned out differently for her in T2
Cameron has very good instincts but he's a gambler (meaning his style is that he doesn't know how to not take huge risks) and he paints with bold colors. When he does that and it works, it works extremely well and he comes off as a genius. But sooner or later, risk taking comes back to bite you.
Cameron hates what the did to his characters in alien 3 but it’s okay to kill j c what a dumb ass hypocrite
not a single good movie from him in decades. Maybe it was just luck, or the people he worked with, which made the movies great.
This is one of the worst films I’ve ever not seen
I thought the same thing about "Rise of Skywalker"
I watched it and I am now looking for the rest of my brain cells.
I feel such gratitude to have been spared.
Genesis is even worse.
@@google_must_die Eh, debatable.
At least Genisys tried to bring something new and had some spin to the plot.
This one is just a worse remake of the first three movies.
The biggest plot twist of Dark Fate is that the whole plot doesn't revolve around John Connor but instead around Jane Connor. Scratch that. The biggest plot twist is that James Cameron forgot how to write a story.
Never thought I’d see a terminator movie that makes me go, “I think I’m gonna wash this down with Terminator salvation.” And yet, here we are
Salvation was bad. But I’ll give it credit for attempting a movie about the Future War. And the casting choice for young Kyle Reese was phenomenal. R.I.P. Anton Yelchin.
@@doodledangernoodle2517 it's also the only other movie that doesn't recycle the T2 plot
Salvation was definitely the best of these "sequels".
@Snails40 amen brah
Am I the only one that like Salvation.
(Rejected) alternate titles:
Terminator: Inclusivity Festival
Terminator: Border Enforcement
Terminator: We're So Old Now
Terminator: Generic Adventure
Terminator: The Search For More Money
Terminator: Sarah Connor Is Now Your Mum
Terminator: I Used To Know This Really Hot Club Called Technoir Man I Miss The 80's
Terminator: Magical Mystery Retcon Tour
Terminator: Robots Need Love, Too
Terminator: No Fate -But What We Make-
Terminator: War Never Changes
Terminator: It's All Fucking Pointless
Alternate??? More like upcoming..lol
Terminator: Her- minator chronicles
Terminator: people of color
Terminator: Can We Not?
UnitSe7en Terminator: Race war.... “I’ll be Black!” “Homo you won’t!!”
You forgot
Terminator: Geriatric Adventures
wow. Gladi I didn't waste my time on that one.
Funny you mentioned Jenette Goldstein as "Vasquez" in "Aliens." i was surprised to find that she also played John's mother in T2.