I was thinking the same. He looked to mango, his friend who he looks up to with a joyful smile and sees someone he wasn't prepared for. Kind of sad really
@@cibrinyark339 idk if he "looks up to him" they were around the same skill level at the time even if mango was a slightly better, its not like a student master dynamic at all and idk if they are freinds either since mango is always talks shit to him in his live streams (like how he "doesn't respect him as a competitor" and what not) and m2k genreally doesnt really hold strong opinions about anyone really.
"Oh, Mango was just not feeling it", "Oh, he doesn't really care for these competitions, he clearly didn't give his best". Douche Nation johnsing hard LOL Just because he always looks like a homeless person and is chewing gum doesn't mean he's not playing at his best, he's just not better than PP or M2K.
He's obviously a bigger Mango fan. He doesn't believe M2K is the best teams player and said Armada was and if you watch this match it shows his bias. Plus he ran polls on twitter saying if his mango bias is showing during streams since he's trying to keep it toned down. Actions pseak louder than words
Mango is really good, but him and his fans make way too many excuses. It's like they're afraid of admitting the fact that someone like PP or m2K or armada is better than him
You seem pretty sure about that. When it comes to this high level of play it becomes really hard to definitely claim any hierarchical fact about these guys. The only quantifiable one is that of their tournament wins to losses ratio, which I believe Mang0 does have the highest. But, that being said, m2k and armada and even pp do out shine (pun intended) mang0 in a couple of ways.
IncomingGhost But many tournaments in which Mango plays m2k or the other gods he's sandbagging, so in terms of tournaments that he was actually prepared for, I'm sure he has the best or maybe the second best win-loss ratio in sets after Armada
Kevin Howes Everyone has their own area of expertise. Mango and reads, Armada and punishes, M2k and technical skill, ppmd and a flawless neutral game, plus hbox and......sleeping?
Scar, Mew2King switches characters according to the stage, matchup, and how he feels he is playing. The reason why we almost always see Marth come towards the end of the set is because Mew2King wins the first game on Dreamland or Battlefield (stages he goes Sheik on), and loses on Yoshi's (another stage he goes Sheik on), then counterpicks Marth on FD, and then usually is counterpicked to Poke Stadium, which he has said is a very bad stage for Sheik, so he stays Marth
I hope eragonfan and all the mango fanboys are watching. They need to stop mindlessly chanting that he's the best and look at the results. PP really is looking like the best right now.
Hey VGBootCamp, someone may have already pointed this out to you, but I think the video title is incorrect. Mew2King plays Sheik and Marth, and Mango plays Falco.
Henry Lemonjello If you don't know by now, if you push "L" or "R" after an Ariel right before you hit the ground then it cancels half the "lag" or time before you can do something else. Additionaly if you Short Hop Fast Fall first it comes out really fast making melee and PM very fast compared to Brawl and Sm4sh.
Isn't falco vs marth on FD still like 50/50? I mean, space animals still have super hard punishes on Marth just like Marth can destroy spacies. Those combos Mew2king does isn't exactly easy... Im just curious as to why people announce like Marth vs Spacies on FD is a hard counter, when in reality its Mew2king vs spacies on FD.
I know it's not necessary and it's more unsafe, but I wish M2K would go for more reverse up B's when he goes down to f-air Falco out of Fire Bird. Pretty sure he'd get it every time still.
during an interview at SKTAR 3, mango admitted that he can't consistently beat M2K with Fox then he said that he had things figured out and was going to just go Falco the next time against M2K and beat him gets 4-stocked
this is why i always root against Mango. Nothing personal against him; incredible player and seems like a cool dude. But fuck me if is fanbase isn't an insufferable excuse making machine. Always there with the next nugget they dig out their asses to justify why he "wasn't trying" or some stupid BS.
Not really bad for spacies but in this case spacies are very bad against marth on fd because marth has a zero to pretty much death chaingrab on both spacies and m2k takes advantage of this alot and so its especially not to good for spacies he takes to fd
Mango gets ragged on harder than any other player. People need to stop being so biased against him and learn to chill whenever someone admires his play. Its not even bias or fanboyism
I don't appreciate toph's comment about the midwest, saying we picked the worst time to s start a mango chant. Idk if he was trying to call the midwest stupid, but he was definitely making fun of us. Watch yourself toph
2. Mango beat him in winners' semis at sktar and he won like the previous matches since apex (rom7, fp4, uh....there was another one i think but I forgot it) but M2K has shown that he can tango with some of the best.
Smash Bredda How can people not notice that they're just bickering at each the majority of the time. Or at least that Toph is constantly looking to put down Scar with that he says. I dunno exactly what it is, but it's there.
Smash Bredda The commentary was okay for the most part but my biggest problem was when Scar showed clear bias towards Mang0 ( and this isn't the first time he has while commentating). That being said most people who are Prog or D1 are trash at commentating Smash
kofe87 They aren't bickering, they're good friends... Mr Bop Scar admit his bias right away. He's really good friends with Mango, so I don't think anyone can except him to be completely fair.
scars commentary is either, irrelevant. talking about something he doesn't know shit about.. or he reiterates shit we already know.. like m2k has a fd counterpick.. or he stays marth after he chooses marth.. where's hmw and Phil
I think we should cut mango a break he can't focus on the game as much as he used to because he has a baby and responsibilities now. Mew2king just does this 24/7 without anything getting in his way
Mew2King doesn't own any smash title or nintendo system. Mango does. Maybe Mango isn't at the top of his game for some outside reason but you can't use practice time as an excuse
BuIIetBiII wasnt a john i was saying that hes still my favorite player even though he wasnt the best at the time even though he just won mlg aneheim so clearly i was wrong
So mang0 is clearly talented, but I don't feel he is the best at all. Just because he can only beat the other top five as fox. He never wins without fox against the 4, and that says something to me. I look at diversity, and if mang0 can only win with fox #1 on the tier list, he is no better than zero
come back a year later and see how the Times have changed. welp yeah I honestly was a newb back then, and I didn't have as much knowledge as I do now, but the statement has no relevance now because anyone can beat anyone nowadays
M2K looks so happy at the end, then he sees Mango's disappointment and M2K is stressed again.
I think that was a sigh of relief if anything...
I was thinking the same. He looked to mango, his friend who he looks up to with a joyful smile and sees someone he wasn't prepared for. Kind of sad really
I got that vibe too. Hes like *good game buddy!* then stares at mango who looks unhappy and feels bad staring at that.
@@cibrinyark339 idk if he "looks up to him" they were around the same skill level at the time even if mango was a slightly better, its not like a student master dynamic at all and idk if they are freinds either since mango is always talks shit to him in his live streams (like how he "doesn't respect him as a competitor" and what not) and m2k genreally doesnt really hold strong opinions about anyone really.
Huh? I searched for "super sweet mango" and this came up...
Welcome to the world of super smash bros melee
Xufactor 3 I really hope you became a fan after this.
Smash is now going to be a part of your life forever good luck !
Please tell me all these years later this is why ur watching ultimate doubles and stuff lmao, I would genuinely love to hear it
"Oh, Mango was just not feeling it", "Oh, he doesn't really care for these competitions, he clearly didn't give his best". Douche Nation johnsing hard LOL Just because he always looks like a homeless person and is chewing gum doesn't mean he's not playing at his best, he's just not better than PP or M2K.
He's beaten them before. Pros aren't always going to be better than another constantly.
mango is the GOAT, you are a nobody. show the proper respect.
eragonrules1234 Lets be real here, Mango has more johns than any other player.
the GOAT is allowed to explain himself
M2K said it himself that this was the worst that mango played against him. It isn't a john to say Mango wasn't playing his best, it is truth.
Why the anti-hype from scar and toph?
Scar is such a mangofanboy
That's funny cause he's a mew2king fan
Wayy more of a mango fanboy than a mew2king fanboy
+Michael Dinh
no no no, fer stadhagen stated a fact. You stated your opinion. That's why its funny
+Michael Dinh Scar said himself that he's a mew2king fanboy
He's obviously a bigger Mango fan. He doesn't believe M2K is the best teams player and said Armada was and if you watch this match it shows his bias. Plus he ran polls on twitter saying if his mango bias is showing during streams since he's trying to keep it toned down. Actions pseak louder than words
11:11
Scar says the iconic Mang0 quote before Mang0 says it in 2019
I C O N I C
I was looking forward to seeing M2K's falco...
kai kara Same that would have been a funny match up xD
Mango's on his last stock against M2K on Final Destination. Let's go Mango!
because Mango would need encouragement if he was about to 4 stock?
Mango is really good, but him and his fans make way too many excuses. It's like they're afraid of admitting the fact that someone like PP or m2K or armada is better than him
You seem pretty sure about that. When it comes to this high level of play it becomes really hard to definitely claim any hierarchical fact about these guys. The only quantifiable one is that of their tournament wins to losses ratio, which I believe Mang0 does have the highest. But, that being said, m2k and armada and even pp do out shine (pun intended) mang0 in a couple of ways.
I wouldn't say "better" because tbh they've all beaten each other countless times
Kevin Howes Pretty sure armada has the best win ratio over other gods while mango has the most tournament wins
IncomingGhost But many tournaments in which Mango plays m2k or the other gods he's sandbagging, so in terms of tournaments that he was actually prepared for, I'm sure he has the best or maybe the second best win-loss ratio in sets after Armada
Kevin Howes Everyone has their own area of expertise. Mango and reads, Armada and punishes, M2k and technical skill, ppmd and a flawless neutral game, plus hbox and......sleeping?
DAYUM! Mew2King's Falco is SICK!!
Why hasn't anyone else noticed that lol
That was mango who played falco. And I'm pretty sure he's one of the best falco mains in the world.
BlakKyz gr8 b8 m8 i aprici8 n r8 8/8
Kitsune91 lol
Kitsune91 so sick that it looked like it was Sheik D:
Scar, Mew2King switches characters according to the stage, matchup, and how he feels he is playing. The reason why we almost always see Marth come towards the end of the set is because Mew2King wins the first game on Dreamland or Battlefield (stages he goes Sheik on), and loses on Yoshi's (another stage he goes Sheik on), then counterpicks Marth on FD, and then usually is counterpicked to Poke Stadium, which he has said is a very bad stage for Sheik, so he stays Marth
The bias is fucking real when one of the commentators starts cheering for one of the players every few minutes. Why do they let scar commentate?
M2K sure plays a mean Falco, this set.
It's techchases and edgegaurding are so good they look like his Shiek
m2k marth is just scary man
I hope eragonfan and all the mango fanboys are watching. They need to stop mindlessly chanting that he's the best and look at the results. PP really is looking like the best right now.
8:09 is that a phantom? Cause no damage happened, but you see a circle pop up.
Phantoms still do half damage. Falco's hurtbox was intangible due to the side B.
Title error?
Hey VGBootCamp, someone may have already pointed this out to you, but I think the video title is incorrect. Mew2King plays Sheik and Marth, and Mango plays Falco.
Is m2k the only one that 4 stocked mang0 more than once?
i would imagine armada has
For such an all star group of entrants, this tournament had HORRIBLE commentators.
That 4 stock tho
9:20 - 9:25 is simply amazing
what is L-Cancelling?
Henry Lemonjello
If you don't know by now, if you push "L" or "R" after an Ariel right before you hit the ground then it cancels half the "lag" or time before you can do something else. Additionaly if you Short Hop Fast Fall first it comes out really fast making melee and PM very fast compared to Brawl and Sm4sh.
Sometimes you're the buster
-Mango
Lol still my favorite player. Great work here from M2K on a great set.
at the end m2k was so proud of himself by smiling at mango
Its crazy how m2k perform against mango sooo much better here than at goml just a month earlier
Isn't falco vs marth on FD still like 50/50? I mean, space animals still have super hard punishes on Marth just like Marth can destroy spacies. Those combos Mew2king does isn't exactly easy... Im just curious as to why people announce like Marth vs Spacies on FD is a hard counter, when in reality its Mew2king vs spacies on FD.
That ain't Falco!
Come on Mango, M2K deserved a handshake.
Regardless, those first 2 games are my favorite Melee moments.
I know it's not necessary and it's more unsafe, but I wish M2K would go for more reverse up B's when he goes down to f-air Falco out of Fire Bird. Pretty sure he'd get it every time still.
I love watching Mew2King play on FD he so good there. #FDKing
Dude, this wasn't Evo or MLG. He's not going to go tryhard fox. He's priming up his Falco.
during an interview at SKTAR 3, mango admitted that he can't consistently beat M2K with Fox
then he said that he had things figured out and was going to just go Falco the next time against M2K and beat him
gets 4-stocked
this is why i always root against Mango. Nothing personal against him; incredible player and seems like a cool dude. But fuck me if is fanbase isn't an insufferable excuse making machine. Always there with the next nugget they dig out their asses to justify why he "wasn't trying" or some stupid BS.
***** LOL
Yeah, counterpicking stadium doesn't work against M2K's marth as a spacie, it's just like FD.
Around 10 minutes they talk about how FD is a bad stage for Mango, but why is this? I though FD was the best stage for spacies?
Not really bad for spacies but in this case spacies are very bad against marth on fd because marth has a zero to pretty much death chaingrab on both spacies and m2k takes advantage of this alot and so its especially not to good for spacies he takes to fd
Beauty. Pure blissful beauty.
Mango gets ragged on harder than any other player. People need to stop being so biased against him and learn to chill whenever someone admires his play. Its not even bias or fanboyism
I don't appreciate toph's comment about the midwest, saying we picked the worst time to s start a mango chant. Idk if he was trying to call the midwest stupid, but he was definitely making fun of us. Watch yourself toph
I hope Mango doesnt start getting discouraged.
Mango kindaaaa got demolished.
"what's that called full ignition?" omg scar bruh im done
These random blue frames flashing up hurt my eyes =/
that guy with the teeth at 12:42
"i like saying things sometimes..." me as fuck
Damn! Tattoo boy got his ass kicked!
I came to this video expecting Falco dittos...
dang.. this makes 3 times in a row now.. lmao
2. Mango beat him in winners' semis at sktar and he won like the previous matches since apex (rom7, fp4, uh....there was another one i think but I forgot it) but M2K has shown that he can tango with some of the best.
comatthew6 (as if he hasn't in the past)
I wonder when ppl will realize that mango is done.
His talent has gone with is arrogance, he is not half dominant as he used to be.
No Lost "Mango is done". lol
You sound like you take this game seriously...
No Lost thats not it fool
he has a kid and an actual life now. hes approaches the game differently now. Not to mention hes still not at his best.
Wow he stopped trying, he didnt care about the 4 stock :(
4:10
Scar's commentary is always so biased.
The commentators are so annoying.
Always some scrub complaining about perfectly fine commentary, get over it lol
Smash Bredda lel.
Smash Bredda How can people not notice that they're just bickering at each the majority of the time. Or at least that Toph is constantly looking to put down Scar with that he says. I dunno exactly what it is, but it's there.
Smash Bredda The commentary was okay for the most part but my biggest problem was when Scar showed clear bias towards Mang0 ( and this isn't the first time he has while commentating). That being said most people who are Prog or D1 are trash at commentating Smash
kofe87 They aren't bickering, they're good friends...
Mr Bop Scar admit his bias right away. He's really good friends with Mango, so I don't think anyone can except him to be completely fair.
Mew2King has a nice falco
Brutal
0:23
o.0
4 STOCKS
scars commentary is either, irrelevant. talking about something he doesn't know shit about.. or he reiterates shit we already know.. like m2k has a fd counterpick.. or he stays marth after he chooses marth.. where's hmw and Phil
M2K Marth on FD is GG
Fuck why can't Mew2King lose for once?
He got 3-0'd by Emukiller at SKTAR3 last week.
Did you miss grand finals?
I think we should cut mango a break he can't focus on the game as much as he used to because he has a baby and responsibilities now. Mew2king just does this 24/7 without anything getting in his way
So what Mango needs to do:
Is get M2K pregnant.
Mew2King doesn't own any smash title or nintendo system. Mango does. Maybe Mango isn't at the top of his game for some outside reason but you can't use practice time as an excuse
He has said it in multiple interviews, I don't expect him to lie about something like this either although there's always a small chance
Almost all of my play time is friendlies on weekend tournaments.
***** I don't own any nintendo systems or smash games for 4 years. I did practice for Brawl MLG 2010 then I stopped and just attend tournaments a lot.
mango has been playing worse and worse i feel since apex hes still my favorite player but definatley not on top of the game anymore
message to all Mango fanboys- that's enough johns. Please go home
BuIIetBiII wasnt a john i was saying that hes still my favorite player even though he wasnt the best at the time even though he just won mlg aneheim so clearly i was wrong
Mango all salty.
4 stock, commentators . . . no johns
Holy shhhhit m2k bodied mango xD
These commentators are a huge downgrade for the channel. Just spitting obnoxious unrelated banter half the time, really annoying.
So mang0 is clearly talented, but I don't feel he is the best at all. Just because he can only beat the other top five as fox. He never wins without fox against the 4, and that says something to me. I look at diversity, and if mang0 can only win with fox #1 on the tier list, he is no better than zero
are you new here
Hahahahahahaha fucking noob
come back a year later and see how the Times have changed. welp yeah I honestly was a newb back then, and I didn't have as much knowledge as I do now, but the statement has no relevance now because anyone can beat anyone nowadays