Fantastic video. I would cool the panel exactly same as you do. My boss told me I'm doing it wrong. He was the one who's wrong. He didn't like anything I did.
If you wanna get super technical you’re not supposed to cool the panel down but we all do it to speed up the process and reduce warpage. The theory is that cooling the panel down with compressed air or some guys like to use a wet towel will quench the steel making it more brittle that it has to be. I did collision work for 20 years and am still at it and I’m yet to see a guy that doesn’t cool it down.
Hey Ayto. I just found your channel and I love what you are doing. I subbed your channel as well so I can learn more. I am restoring a 1940 Buick Special and I want to do a good job. Thanks for sharing.👍👍🍁
It was actually recommended on this vehicle, but I chose not to. I have a better finish without a sleeve and had great access from behind to undercoat it properly
typically its not since the high frequency start can damage vehicle computers. A low frequency scratch start works safely, but then it becomes a matter of following OEM procedures- I've never seen TIG on any OEM procedures.. Obviously a TIG is capable of producing an equal, or even better quality weld, but that's kind of a Pandora's Box with liability in the collision world.
It's a lot nicer when you have a brand new panel you're welding in it is not near as hard as trying to cut off a panel from a used car or truck address all the holes that you drilled and all the spots with all the paint off weld through primer anywhere you had issues with weld grind etc new panels like butter to me no matter if I'm using a cheap welder with gas or a more expensive welder long as it's 220 volt and has a decent set of adjustments I can put anything down there together
TIG welding has yet to be certified for insurance work,, long overdue,,, MIG welding is messy,,, in the government mandated MIG welding wire is harder than the steel panels,,, the Italian wire of higher quality, which is pure mild steel has much cleaner welds but is not used in the USA... Leave it up to government mandates to ruin things...
Interesting. Where I am in Australia, Italian wire is the only MIG wire that welding supply firms have, though some hardware shops have Chinese wire. Insurers only want to know if you have completed the right training.
I agree, unfortunately they will go towards more things that require less skill. I was told at aluminum I-car class that tig welding use to be allowed years ago but less and less people are able to do it properly so they got away from it. Probably why more and more repairs use rivets instead of welds, easier to rivet then To weld.
will never happen for insurance jobs. too time consuming, not enough techs have the skill, and shops would have to buy new welders. not enough benefit for all the trouble.
@darylhomegren2943 What I'm saying is follow oem procedures. Not every section should be sleeved. Adding additional strength may sound like a good idea, but could also change the way its designed to fold in a future collision
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What wire you used for welding gun
@@f3rnando00 6mm mild steel
Great technique , liked your torch angle to reduce penetration .
Fantastic video. I would cool the panel exactly same as you do. My boss told me I'm doing it wrong. He was the one who's wrong. He didn't like anything I did.
If you wanna get super technical you’re not supposed to cool the panel down but we all do it to speed up the process and reduce warpage. The theory is that cooling the panel down with compressed air or some guys like to use a wet towel will quench the steel making it more brittle that it has to be. I did collision work for 20 years and am still at it and I’m yet to see a guy that doesn’t cool it down.
Hey Ayto. I just found your channel and I love what you are doing. I subbed your channel as well so I can learn more. I am restoring a 1940 Buick Special and I want to do a good job. Thanks for sharing.👍👍🍁
Awesome, thank you!
Let's restore cars together, using this man's videos. I'm restoring 2001 GAZ 3110 Volga
Excellent work young man!
Thanks!
Very understandable, thanks!
Glad it helped!
Exceptional technique! 🔥
Thank you 🙌
I keep a air nozzle on hand to help cool my weld down faster
Nice work
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers
No problem 👍
Excellent videos, love the explanations and details. Had to subscribe, thank you for the education.
Welcome aboard!
If you have access to the back of the panel you could use Intergrips. Better option than a screw driver.
Just looked those up, and they're super neat, but most of the times when doing sections, you won't have access to the backside.
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Doesn’t look very strong when you have ground the majority of the weld back?
Why not use a backer?
It was actually recommended on this vehicle, but I chose not to.
I have a better finish without a sleeve and had great access from behind to undercoat it properly
@@AUTOBODYTECH good to know. Thank you for the response and information.
Nice Job, Do you have to take out the car battery before welding?
You should disconnect the battery
Do you have to weld both sides?
no, welding from the top side is enough. the metal is quite thin
What as you MIG welder set at?
@tdmallet MIG setting are at the beginning of the video
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Could tig weld be used?
Yes, I'm sure, but typically, collision shops don't TIG weld
typically its not since the high frequency start can damage vehicle computers. A low frequency scratch start works safely, but then it becomes a matter of following OEM procedures- I've never seen TIG on any OEM procedures.. Obviously a TIG is capable of producing an equal, or even better quality weld, but that's kind of a Pandora's Box with liability in the collision world.
Wow, nice welder! So smooth!
Very!
May I ask why bodyshops dont use tig?
MIG welder is much easier to learn and is more productive compared to TIG in the bodyshop
I don't understand 2 thing:- how you are ve able to touch the welds , just after?😮🤔
Quickly! Sometimes too hot and will need to wait a moment
You are obviously using gas, but what size wire? .023 or .030?
.023
Easy welding with that monster welder Me trying to weld with $200 harborfreight no gas 40 year old Yota
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Yeah me too and it looks like hell and two seconds weld ends up and hours of grinding
What size wire
.023
PRO
It's a lot nicer when you have a brand new panel you're welding in it is not near as hard as trying to cut off a panel from a used car or truck address all the holes that you drilled and all the spots with all the paint off weld through primer anywhere you had issues with weld grind etc new panels like butter to me no matter if I'm using a cheap welder with gas or a more expensive welder long as it's 220 volt and has a decent set of adjustments I can put anything down there together
Totally agree, working with a used panel is a lot more challenging!
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Wow the bank went all out lending you guys money to buy that welder😂
I can’t imagine touching a fresh weld each time?
Я также делал на своей машине, но поторпился и не давал остыть по итогу усадку шов дал
Yikes!
TIG welding has yet to be certified for insurance work,, long overdue,,, MIG welding is messy,,, in the government mandated MIG welding wire is harder than the steel panels,,, the Italian wire of higher quality, which is pure mild steel has much cleaner welds but is not used in the USA... Leave it up to government mandates to ruin things...
Interesting. Where I am in Australia, Italian wire is the only MIG wire that welding supply firms have, though some hardware shops have Chinese wire. Insurers only want to know if you have completed the right training.
I agree, unfortunately they will go towards more things that require less skill. I was told at aluminum I-car class that tig welding use to be allowed years ago but less and less people are able to do it properly so they got away from it. Probably why more and more repairs use rivets instead of welds, easier to rivet then To weld.
will never happen for insurance jobs. too
time consuming, not enough techs have the skill, and shops would have to buy new welders. not enough benefit for all the trouble.
the secret is in the fit, same in shipbuilding
surgical gloves ??
Yup haha 😄
Great technique but with the wrong gloves!!
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File finish/no bog/prime and paint.did this for 50yrs.next
Not panel beating it’s called RnR remove and replace not repair 😂😂😂
You're better off flanging it and welding it solid
Technically you should have to sleve inside
That is what I-car teach you. You need to sleeve it.
I-Car is general specifications. Always follow OEM procedures first
@@AUTOBODYTECH so are you trying to say I'm wrong?????
@darylhomegren2943 What I'm saying is follow oem procedures. Not every section should be sleeved. Adding additional strength may sound like a good idea, but could also change the way its designed to fold in a future collision
@@darylhomegren2943yes.