🇦🇺Weird Buses on a "Train Track"? The Australia's Guided Bus, Adelaide O-Bahn
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- ◆Adelaide O-Bahn (Tea Tree Plaza Interchange→Currie Street, Adelaide CBD)
◆I'm a Japanese train enthusiast and stayed in Australia for two weeks.
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As a lifetime resident of Adelaide, hello! I think it's funny that I've had to rely on a visitor's video to see a passenger's perspective on the O-Bahn. I've never set foot on one. It doesn't go anywhere I want to go.
It certainly does it for me, I live in the northern suburbs. If I have to go to the east end by bus, I take the O-bahn. If it's King William road end, I take the 228.
Which means you’ve had a lifetime of opportunities to try it out yourself but you’re just too stuck up to try it😂😂
Same here.
@@brianmorris8045i work up near tea tree gully so i ride the o bahn in full every time :)
3:33 you were lucky Kuga-san! That's not a sign for koalas, that's a sign for "DROP BEARS!" And the speed sign is the minimum you have to be driving to hit them so they don't tear your car to shreds with their claws!! 😆
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Haha! Love it!
Fear the Drop bears!
@@TexasCat99 I hear they didn't exist until after WWI when scientists here tried to create the perfect killing machine. The experiment escaped and killed 25 of the best researchers in the field in the process and around 75 military personnel, and that was just one! Due to it's genetic compatibility with the koala its numbers have grown albeit slowly. Keep your powder dry, and your knife sharp! 😆
@Kugas_Travel... hmmm...I don't think this is the real Kuga-san somehow
Aaahhhh the O-bahn! I grew up in Adelaide and used to catch this every day. I never expected to see it on your channel!
Thank you for sharing your lovely journey. I love seeing beautiful new places. ❤
Thank you Kuga for visiting my country i am looking forward to seeing more of your visit
I think this is brilliant. New generation busses & tracks could be electrified with the side guide wheels being used as a pantographs and have powered side walls. Could definitely work.
Can't wait to see your next video! 😁 Really like this one! 😁
I really enjoyed this one! I’ve never seen this before! Thank you!
Thank you for another grand video! I've ridden the guided bus system in Cambridgeshire, UK, which replaced the O-Bahn as the longest system of its type in the world. Next time you visit the UK, I recommend that you take a look!
Very cool! Thanks for another great video, Kuga! 👍!!!
In Brisbane there is a dedicated bus road from the south of the city to the centre. Buses leave and enter the road at different points. It seems simpler and very effective.
Every interchange on the o-bahn a bus can enter or leave the tracked sections to go on different routes and different areas using the tracked sections for fast flow to and from the city...the roads alongside the o-bahn route to Tea Tree Plaza (Modbury) are very congested so this saves many people a lot of time.
That must have been an interesting experience. Might have to try that in the future. Great vid!
Watching from Canada. A nice tour. Well filmed. I send a smile.
The section through the tunnel, shown near the end of your video, is guided too … but of a different design compared to the track along Linear Park. I live in Adelaide and the O-Bahn is very convenient because of its high frequency and speed (given it runs on a dedicated right of way). Thanks for the video! 😊
P.S. You do occasionally see koalas along the O-Bahn route. 🐨
I love your train videos. I'm just trying to work out why the O-Bahn is a better solution then just laying down bitumen. In other words a dedicated road for buses.
@@craigalexp I was thinking the same the cost of this system must be high and you can not change it when done ,
@@craigalexp There’s a number of reasons. It requires a much narrower alignment compared to building a conventional bus-only road while also enabling higher speeds and a smooth ride. The design also allows animals to travel more safely beneath the track (given the track runs along a linear park) and does not require lighting. Was originally going to be light rail but there was a change of government.
１２年間アデレードに住んでいますが、まだ乗ったことがありません。このチャンネルでO-Bahnを見て驚きました！アデレードを呼び物にして、ありがとうございます。アデレードは静かで小さな町ですが、生活の質が高くてとても住みやすい場所です。😊
I used Google translate to read your comment and totally agree 😁
@@PS-Straya_M8don't you have the translate button just under the comment?
Wow this brings back memories of when I lived in Adelaide.
I hope you are enjoying your trip down under, and that you can take the Ghan for a visit to the north.
Love your videos.
that is so cool. I live in Australia and have never seen or heard of this type of bus before. There are none in melbourne, I think South Australia is the only state in Australia to have them. Id love to go on one and tick it off my bucket list. so thank you for this video.. ive just learnt something new :)
Any day you learn something is not a day that is wasted.
you make really articulated and researched vlogs!
Thank you for sharing stay blessed
Kuga-san - thanks for the great o-bahn video! After seeing your Japan o-bahn video I was hoping you would cover our local o-bahn in Adelaide! I used to live near Paradise interchange so I would take the o-bahn to work in the CBD everyday. It is very convenient, much faster and cheaper than driving. I hope you got to ride the Adelaide trams, steam ranger steam trains and metro trains too while you were here! I hope to meet you in Japan one day and explore trains together - I will be back again soon :-)
I've never seen that before, cool!!
Thank you for your video 😁 I live in the NE and use the O-Bahn every day for work. For those considering moving to Adelaide definitely worth living near this busway!
But only if you're near one of the three access points... There's really no point being near the busway ½ way between two of the stops.
I’ve been to Adelaide a few times now, , I love it
I'm from Newcastle N.S.W and I've seen them when I visited I think the O-Bahn is great and more states should get them. Thanks for making this it was very interesting.
Hi Kuga! It feels so funny to see the same places I walk around everyday on a video about buses 😅 I was so excited when I first came to Adelaide and discovered the Obahn! Now I use it all the time. And yes, you can sometimes see koalas in that exact spot! When that happens though, there are wildlife rangers that come and retrieve them. They move them further away from the roads so they don't get hurt. You're more likely to see the rangers car with all the lights on than you are to see the koala itself 😅
Amazing great video, I enjoyed it ❤
Great trip, after you trying the local one in your country, finally you try similar thing abroad. Can't wait for another thing like this in another country you've mentioned.
I can tell you there been many times where cars have been caught on the track, yet what surprises me is, that it been on both ends and one end come of a road while the other as you in the video is a bus station and yet there was a car not long ago.
Fascinating.
For those wondering why the speed limit was lowered, the Articulated buses have stability issues in the turntable at higher speeds. It was not deemed safe to have them travel at 100 kph. same thing goes for the ones not O'Banh equipped. Speed limiters are set to 85kph.
Your comment is false and crap.
The speed was reduced due to a number of incidents and the deterioration of the track.
Articulated buses were able to travel just as fast as rigids without any problems.
Do some research before commenting.
Love the bird call in the video.
Kuga-San if you are back here just look up to the top of certain gum trees for koalas during the day. They only really like a particular species of gum trees also.
in Leeds UK there is only one bus route with a couple very short sections of guided busway - feels a bit like a fragment of an original larger plan and it's neat to see something like that but much more expansive
Wow! Cool 😊
Wow! Its different... But Cool as well...
Super
It's very very interesting this kind of transportation. It has a lot of benefits combining tram and bus benefits.
Its like a bus monorail. That is pretty awesome.
A lot of people laughed at the idea of the O-bahn being put in. I happened to meet one of those who laughed...on an O-bahn. As I walked past his seat, I said, "I see you've changed your mind already?" , the look on his face was a slight beetroot reddish colour. (Sprung!). It was only a year after the O-bahn was opened. He couldn't say anything but "piss off will ya?". Why he said that I don't know. I never mentioned the words 'O-bahn' and anyone sitting nearby wouldn't have known what I was on about. But he knew. Why the beetroot red face I'll never know. I didn't say anything else. I just sat down. 😅🤣😂
Wow nice video ❤❤
the best metrobus that i watched, in mexico city doesn't have guided track like japan and australia
@_Kugas_Travel.. you're welcome
Kuga-san I really hope you are enjoying your time here 🇦🇺 I also hope you got to see some of the Vivid festival in Sydney! Don't be surprised by anything you see, we do things a little differently "down 'ere" 😆
Except in our politics, we are as corrupt as anywhere.
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roses are red, violets are blue,
trains, trams and buses come in all sorts of hue ;)
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なんだこれは・・・たまげたなあ。名古屋のゆとり～と線も頑張ればイケるんじゃなかろうかwwwwwww
Awesome bus
Feels like inside a rollercoaster...
by the footage of 8:09 , looks like you got a coordinator/manager as a driver aswell! drivers normally wear white shirts but depot managers/coords wear the grey
In Istanbul, Turkiye, we have kinda guided buses too. There's a bus line called "metrobus", which has its own seperated road which no other vehicles can use, though it does not have that guide "rail", it can be considered as a guided bus.
So cool, bus in railway, I want try it sometimes
In Germany, where the O-Bahn was originally developed, the question is easily answered: Bus or Train? It depends on the license it is operating under. If parts of the route are normal road traffic, then there, it is a bus (the O in O-Bahn stands for Omnibus, the word, that was shortened later to bus). On the parts that are licensed as rail tracks (either following Railway Operation Regulation or Tramway Operation Regulation, Eisenbahn or Straßenbahn in German, hence the -Bahn part), it is a train or a tram/streetcar. In Germany, a vehicle can change its category during operation, and many of the heated debates about technical details in the definition in the English speaking world are non existent. The O-Bahn is, whatever the regulation says it currently adheres to.
I have experienced this bus system on a trip to Adelaide many years ago and now do not understand why it has not been adopted in other states. It is brilliant in that it uses buses to filter into outlying stations before hooking into the track and then going into the city. The traffic is all one way in the morning and then the system is reversed in the afternoons, thus not cluttering up the urban streets at either time. There is no ugly overhead electric system as with trams or trains, and also it is virtually noiseless for those living near it as the bus tyres are rubber, not steel wheels running on steel tracks, therefore it is not disruptive like train tracks in dense urban areas. Bloody good idea I reckon. Was a bit disconcerting initially to see the bus driver leave the steering wheel alone and do his paper admin whilst the bus scooted along at about 80 kph.
efficient in road structure,
I would like to see these in Queensland. Hopefully you had a nice time in Australia. 🇦🇺
Here in Luton UK we have had the same system for a long time, it's amazing
This Adelaide one was completed in the 80's.
When I first saw this system in Adelaide all those years ago I had to go on it to try it! It was really cool! I guess it would be so much easier and cheaper to build than a train system. Normal cars end up in the o-Bahn every no and then.. 😅
みなさん是非アデレードに遊びに来てください♪
We rode on O-Bahn last year when visiting Adelaide. I was surprised at its high speed, and while it has a good safety record, it did not feel safe to me. Good video, thanks.
never had a bus crash mate
In Japan's third largest city, Nagoya, there is a guideway bus called "Yutorito Line" that is similar to Adelaide.
Due to a Linear Park following the River Torrens which intersects in places with the O-Bahn track, this creates a corridor from the Adelaide Hills to Adelaide; this allows native animals to move through the trees and scrub, and includes Koalas and Kangaroos. Some of the animals following the River Torrens to the sea, can make it all the way to the beach.
the road signage is similar to those in Mexico. the early Mexico City CDMX subway routes used trainsets with tires/tyres.
I went on the o bahn back in 1999 to my trip to Adelaide.
Good video bus..I like it..from Indonesian
I was in Nagoya 2 months ago, too bad not enough time to try the special bus. Next time
To directly answer the question in the title; this is a guided bus, and it is closer to a tram than a train, however it's its own thing.
Kuga!...ThanksMuch!
The same Idea is used on busses in the City of Essen, North-Rhine Westfalia, Germany. The bus is guided there on between the 4 lanes one of the busiest Autobahn in the region, if not Germany at all.
I knew you were going to list Japan last!
Basically, the front guiding wheels and the tracks are just like the Tamiya track 4WD cars.
I know about guided buses but didn't know we had this system in Australia
Kuga, it's clearly a bus with two guiding wheels at the front...one on each side at the front. The driver engages them just before the bus enters the O-bahn.
To quote Google: "Adelaide's O-Bahn was introduced in 1986 to service the city's rapidly expanding north eastern suburbs, replacing an earlier plan for a tramway extension."
Have been on the O-bahn a few times over the years since it's inception. Nice smooth ride.
I do know that Cambridge and the guided busway and so does Luton-Dunstable. I do think that guided busways is probably better for buses to use than using roads that are so congested.
The tee tree gully and paradise one are my closest and I am in Salisbury so ye
In Essen (Germany) war suf der Bundesstraße 1 solch ein Spurbus on der Mitte eingerichtet. Heute ist diese Straße die Autobahn A40, ohne Bus
Tyler Mac SAY what wicked mate
When we built the o bahn a study was done to see if light or heavy rail would be better. Connecting it to the existing rail service which is on the other side of the cbd would have been costly and disruptive. Adelaide cbd is surrounded by protected parklands too. The o bahn was best od both worlds. Tea tree plaza is not a high population area so building rail was never feasible
ye, they had the System also installed in Mannheim, but only a short Section over the Tramlines and in a part of Town where you don't normaly go for a stroll since there is nothing
but i remember that most of their Busses had the guided wheels, but that went away after they needed to replaced and well, the roadway over the Tramline and the Busline is still there, so at least for that usecase, it was really more than a Demotrack to show People the System and not really a necessaty
there's a version of this in greater manchester, England too
We got a similar bus over here in Germany, in the middle of Autobahn.
Essen 😮A40
Thats actually where the system was developed and where it got exported from to adelaide. In the 80s and 90s the network in essen was much bigger, with multiple sections above ground, and even running through some of the Stadtbahn tunnels with guided busways on the tram tracks (for example Viehofer Platz and Rathaus Essen), buses and trams used the same platforms, the buses were even electrified and had doors on both sides for the tunnel stations. But unfortunately all of that is in the past now and they were sold as regular trolleybuses to Russia.
Thanks for your O-Baun bus ride almost to 'Paradise'. Reminds me. My cousin came to Melbourne and said her friend her chose 'Sunshine' purely because of its nice sound. On Topic. I think that O--Barn buses have a big future Globally. What's good in Adelaide is good beyond South Australia. [not brought to you by SA Tourist Bureau.]
Those buses reminded me of the little cars we could drive as kids at Disneyland with dad on the passenger side. Back in the 60’s. Is that ride still going anyone?
im just happy we dont have any contracts to build busses for adelaide atm as that would be a pain to figure out
Valeu!
Obrigado!🤝
I remember the first time I caught the i Bahn thinking it was a regular bus. It was night time and yiu couldn’t see anything outside. All you could feel was the sheer speed of 5he bus which was scary s fk as th bus squealed and squeaked loudly - I actually started panicking thinking what the hell was going on haha
We have a guided bus in Manchester UK,its called the Vantage ,it travels between Manchester aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the towns of Leigh and Atherton.been going for 6 years or more
Adelaide's is almost 40 years old.
This reminds me of the street cars here
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The sign at 3:15 is a warning to watch out for drop bears 😁
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Wondered why it has a german name (O-Bahn). Now I know that this system is a copy of the original in Essen, Germany. 😉
Not quite a copy...the German one just used the guided part in tram tunnels. Otherwise they just used normal roads.
We are now 1 step closer to the TRUE air bus
I mean, there *IS* a bus that rides on an actual train track (with deployable train wheels) in Japan, but it's more a novelty than a viable mode of transport at the moment.
I wonder if they could connect more busses together, to make a bus-train
As an Ex driver on there, these Scanias were not designed for this track, they shake, vibrate, way too much electronic gadgets on these, the Mercs were designed for this service, after 40 olus yes, of verious bus models, beands, i do know what I'm talking about
How nice - a bus to Paradise! If only getting there was that easy! Still, I read that you can take a Bus to Hel in Poland, which is apparently very popular with tourists. Presumably they can say they went to Hell and back on their holidays!
Hi👋 You can also say that you went thru the Hell😅 By the way, taking a train is better option. Greetings from Poland👋
What is the advantage of having bus with driver on rails? You need to allocate space and to build special rails that only bus can use.
I wonder what the advantage is, is it just that the busses can be closer together than if they were on a regular private roadway? It doesn't seem like the track is elevated at all. Still really cool!
I can't see any sense in it. The advantages compared to a normal separated road appear non-existent (what you win on negligibly more efficient driving you lose on spending more on specialised infrastructure, which to boot is more expensive by default due to being proprietary technology), while the disadvantages compared to (electrified) rail (be it heavy or light) are obvious (energy efficiency, running surface wear of both wheels & track, noise, emissions, potential capacity).
The main advantage is flexibility - the buses can run at a speed they'd never get to on city and suburban roads, and when they get to the interchanges they split off and serve routes by road.
Adelaide's rail network serves the west, south and north of the city, but not the north-east and building heavy rail would likely have taken much longer and been very disruptive. And in the 1980s the single tram route in Adelaide was still serviced by wooden carriages and there was no thought at all of extending it.
The advantage of the guideway is that the path is much narrower, because there isn't the natural drift you get with manual steering. This also means the opposing lane can be much closer. That way, they can use the existing right-of-way of an abandoned train track, without having the huge expense of widening the bridges, widening the cut into hills, etc.
The vehicles also can operate on public roadways, eliminating the time and hassle of an interchange, and the cost of running both rail and road. Another benefit over rail is a lighter and cheaper vehicle, more efficient for low-capacity operations, less noise for neighbors, lower cost of maintenance, since rail requires every inch to be nearly perfect to prevent a derailment, and ability to climb steeper hills, which saves a ton over building a tunnel and underground station.
If capacity needs increases and/or the network expands where it makes sense, the existing bus paths can be converted into rail. An intermediate step could be use of trolleybuses (electric buses powered by overhead lines).
When you were equidistant from the first stop and your departure point were you Halfway to Paradise?
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I seen this back in the middle 80' s, the best system I'd ever seen. I'm from Sydney so I thought the government might install them here, nooooo they built a t way system that has to stop at many traffic lights along the way causing pollution from the buses and cars/ trucks that have to stop for at least 20 to 30 seconds for one bus to pass, the NSW government has to have the most inept engineer's the world has ever seen.